The lightest disc brake wheels I could find! Extralite Cyberdisc

[@willarmero1673]

"Im not a reviewer, I just make videos about shit I put on my bike" LOL exactly why I love these videos over the "reviewer" people.

[@Maddiegelenk]

Your videos just keep getting better. Editing and composition are awesome

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers mate! 🙏

[@r3awak3n]

You can get some rotor spacers, they don't always work but I have had success and not have to re-setup my rotor position every time I change wheels.

[@alvarogaspar808]

Hum... 6.9 on a disk gravel bike is preeety good! Time for a big ride!

[@ImranShaikh-gh2wd]

Agreed this is one of the best cycling channels on You tube- looking forward to some summer cycling videos, but mate you have a problem - weight weenititis

[@jackhammer40k_]

Shimano and SCHRaaam mixed often produces a bit of noise. Confirmed on my mate's CX bike

[@TheSilversurfmonkey]

That rim/tyre combo looks fantastic on the bike. Seriously classy!

[@ridesofjapan]

I agree! I was hoping the “new brown” would be a little more tan than brown, but still pretty happy with the look.

[@TheSilversurfmonkey]

Rides of Japan Mmm, but brown’s the new tan, isn’t it? 🤓. Still trying to work out what frame those green versions they’ve done would look good on. Possibly, none...

[@physicsandfitness]

Keep doing what you are doing man. Instagram content is just as great as the KZbin content. Bike nerds unite.

[@ridesofjapan]

Eric Feldkamp cheers mate 🤜🤛

[@chiefrocker12]

Best ever channel....we need more guys like you out in the cycling community. I need to get one of those mini scales, because we should all ride with that, especially up on the mountains. Nice one!!

[@ridesofjapan]

Haha, cheers mate! You never know when you need to weigh a bike 😜 Better to have and not need it, than need it and not have it 🤪

[@COYOTEEXILE]

I've been binge watching your videos! Love them! Thank you 😊 for sharing. Japan looks amazing! Your an inspiration for bikes and making high quality videos.

[@darrenleroy]

I love your videos. So well made and full of information. Your emphasis on weight savings really makes me want to keep watching.

[@ridesofjapan]

Darren Halford cheers mate! Always super happy to hear that people are enjoying the videos 🙏🙏

[@mtbboy1993]

hope was a good choice. slow wearing, quite quiet, light too, stays a lot cooler, so they don't overheat and glaze the surface as fast as usual rotors, I use them in 160rear 180fronton my trail bike. but of course after several months of use you can do regular maintenance sanding them with 100grit sandpaper they will be like new. I have used Hope rotors for several years now, have them on tree wheel sets.

[@mannyf1441]

Good news is that the extralite hubs are pretty easy to service. They do have a tendency to creak though, but servicing them normally will help prevent that. I really like my extralite cyberhubs though. Great purchase.

[@ridesofjapan]

Good to know, cheers! The brief time I’ve had with them then seem pretty easy to take apart... a bit fiddly to dial that preload in, but I guess I’ll learn with practice :) Looking forward to spend more time on them.

[@crypto_que]

I just bought a carbon-ti chainring & now have these wheels in my shopping cart on starbike/weight weenies LOL

[@xaviermelendez2639]

What a great video, really nicely shot, edited and produced. Also, your approach and tone of the review was really funny and spot on. And... have to say, those wheels are crazy light! Talk about bling!!! (First video and now I'm a subscriber.)

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers mate! 🙏 happy you like it! 😊

[@DidiandHenry]

Dude, you're the MKBHD of bikes 👍🏻

[@gboyspeed]

Beautiful film works dude

[@jen3800]

i am curious about what you do for a living, and where you are originally from. Excellent show, as always. Super chill and informative. Bravo !

[@ridesofjapan]

Im Swedish, and work in “IT” ;) Cheers mate! 🙏

[@dho]

great quality video, i think everyone can tell that you rewatch your clips and make sure everything is super polished. as for the topic of light wheels, i feel like the disc setup sets you back. some of those weight weenies wheel builds are sub 800g, ridiculous, but of course you need the discs. if you are so obsessive i think a less annoying (read: less maintenance) job to your bike would be to strip the paint. i'm sure it would hurt since it's such a nice frame but if you're chasing the grams then i feel that the paint has to go

[@ridesofjapan]

Zadius895 cheers mate! Let's say I'm pretty sick of seeing my own stupid face 😂 While I like to play up the whole weight weenie ”disease” for effect, it's still a bit tongue in cheek. I do want to get the bike lighter if I can, but I don't want to destroy the look of the bike, so I'll take the beautiful blue paint over a few 100g any day :) I still appreciate all the suggestions though! 🙏

[@normanhayes7544]

With regard to Di2 I have tried mixing SRAM cassette/chain into Shimano Ultegra 6870 groupset with similar result-excessive noise. With a purely mechanical setup I had no difficulty with this arrangement and often mixed/matched SRAM/Shimano componentry. I have switched to KMC chains with great success and experience flawless shifting and silent running. Never run 1X so can’t comment on that.

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers for the report, much appreciated! 🙏

[@bodoprobst]

And also, regardless of the chain used, it will make more noise when on the SRAM 10 teeth cog as it will have to deform more compared to a Shimano 11, it will also be less efficient on that particular cog.

[@richardharker2775]

Very good video production, again. Your character along with the style you're producing now has become a favourite. So much so I find myself anxiously waiting for the next episode of "Rides of Japan". Well done. Your bearing noise has me intrigued though. I'm assuming they are angular contact bearings being that they can be adjusted for play. With the slightest bit of play they should still be smooth and silent. Shimano cup and cone are always pre loaded to much in my opinion and a pair of excellent Easton wheels I have are equiped with angular contact bearings set to absolute minimum clearance. With a quick spin by hand I can go make a coffee, drink it and come back to a slowly spinning wheel (front). This is how they should be. Bearing noise indicates to me a foreign object or a less than stellar bearing in there. My curiosity would be carefully dismantling and analysing it. I'll be waiting for Extralite's response.

[@ridesofjapan]

Rick Harker you are too kind sir! 🙏 I don’t think it be too long before I take the hubs apart, if nothing else out of curiosity :)

[@richardharker2775]

@@ridesofjapan. Bearings come in grades of "who cares" to needing electron microscopes to find imperfections. The brg races or shells can easily be polished to perfection whereas the balls go through a huge process to get the finest roundness possible. Although manufacturers take great care there are always the rare issue. A tiny hair for instance. In some components I've had, such as 105 level, the ball bearings have been replaced as soon as possible with Dura Ace or a higher level. As such you will have a longer lasting bearing hub. Curious to see how this goes.

[@richardharker2775]

Before getting crazy...At 12:24 you talk of tick when you put pressure on one side. I had something like this which turned out to be the valve stem ticking on the rim but not when I was riding in a straight line. Can I assume this is not the problem?

[@ridesofjapan]

Rick Harker yes, that’s not the problem as I’m using tubeless valves that are locked in to the rim. Appreciate the suggestion though! 🙏 I got the ticking with just putting pressure on the rim from one side, without the wheel spinning. After messing around the preload it went away so, happy days for now... still I’ll play more with that in the future.

[@MayhemSWE]

For some additional weight savings, replace the steel spokes with Berd PolyLight spokes! I plan on using them myself on a pair of climbing wheels for my next go at the Maratona dles Dolomites. Still won't be down to CyberDisc weight as I'll go with DT 240s hubs, though my Far Sports tubular rims are quite light…

[@nonchalantgarage]

I'm afraid to weigh my bike in the mountains with all the mud it picks up this time of year. Great vid

[@johncox9660]

Love the innovative stile of this video. Fun vid thanks for posting.

[@kortbrook]

As always I love your vids. I don't know where you get the patience for all of that... I just want to get out and ride. Clicks and rattles are the worst!

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers mate! I agree, but sorting them out is oddly satisfying 🤓

[@jimnyfuchs]

Nice! I’ve got a Pack Rat frame waiting for parts in my shed - Still inspired by your Panaracer recommendation 😬

[@tmcd4565]

Thanks for another great video...excellent production and content. Also, I enjoy watching you spending more money on your bike. Somehow, it satisfies my own craving to buy new stuff for my bike that I don't need, therefore saves me lots of money. My HR climbs and my hands get sweaty just watching someone take new exotic carbon wheels from the box. Would you take your new wheels and tires on a serious gravel ride? I think your new objective should be to equal the 6.9 set up for gravel...which would likely make it the lightest serious gravel bike on the planet.And it would also provide much entertainment for the wannabes like me.

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers mate! Haha, happy I can help in anyway 😆 I wouldn’t hesitate to take them on some gravel if I had to. Extralite state that they are ok for cyclocross. And I’m a flyweight myself so would not worry about stuff braking that easy.

[@stroudnick]

Running the XX1 1199 cassette with XTR mechanical rear (I think long cage) and have the same issue with a loud/crunch shift experience. I think that’s just how it is living the weight weenie life. I’d recommend the XTR 11s cassette, although heavier the shifting experience is worth it.

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers for the impression! Yeah, there are definitely compromises when chasing grams. 😅

[@alpsatiroglu]

I had the same noise problem with my 11-32 sram red cassette with dura ace chain. I replaced the chain with KMC SL and got way better results. Though it is still not as silent shimano cassette.

[@ridesofjapan]

Awesome, Good to know 👌 Might have to try a sram chain 🤔

[@chentleman]

Your videos are awesome as is your bike and rides

[@dank6761]

A few things to note, on a gravel bike unlike an enduro you can get away with lighter rotors like Ashima than Hope which are not very light, they are also cheaper but won't have to withstand the forces like an enduro or dh bike would so are more than up to the task. Also Extralite hubs are very light but they use an aluminium to aluminium interface internally, a well educated person in the mtb industry I know who uses them says they constantly need maintenance to clean out the dirty grease and aluminium particles that accumulate. A slightly heavier but not by much hub that uses a titanium drivering is carbon Ti, only a few grams more but much more durable. Additionally if ypu want to go really crazy on the wheel build look at BERD spokes, extremely lightweight and strong polymer spokes but expensive at 8 dollars per spoke.

[@onilovni1234]

You went with the XG1175 11 speed cassete????? The XX1 is about 260g, you could have save a lot of weight there!

[@czinra]

🚑👨‍⚕️ Proper prescription right there

[@ridesofjapan]

So so true! My wallet couldn’t handle it unfortunately 😭

[@jimnyfuchs]

Rides of Japan I believe this one is up to us. If there would have been more Amazon credits... 😝

[@xaviersemont647]

I ride Sram groupsets for a long time now (2x and 1x). I tried several chain brands and honestly, the best is KMC.

[@ridesofjapan]

Awesome, cheers!

[@xaviersemont647]

Rides of Japan, now it won’t ever be as quiet as a shimano cassette with a shimano chain ...

[@ridesofjapan]

Xavier SEMONT yeah, I’m slowly beginning to accept that fact 😔

[@dalescott3942]

Hmmm... super interesting video and I keep coming back to a few of them- goldmines of info :). What wheelset would you choose today if you wanted something all purpose with a climbing preference?

[@ridesofjapan]

I will eventually do a 4th update video on this wheels set 😅 if you seen all the follow up videos you know they don’t come without issues, but they still are my favorite wheels to ride. The weakest link is the rims though. That super low weight (keeping the depth in mind) seems to make them very fragile. So I’m in the process of putting together that wheel set you are talking about, I will keep the extralite hubs, but will get different rims. More on that in the future though :)

[@ridesofjapan]

Follow up video now up: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKnWiYqmoN1-gNk ---- Thanks to everyone for chiming in on the cassette noise 🙏 The general consensus seem to be that the sram cassette in combination with the Shimano chain is the noisiest configuration you can have. Also, sram (of this series) seem to be generally noisier then Shimano according to most of the feedback. So the logical fix is to get a sram chain, with the second alternative a KMC chain. In other news I discovered another problem with the freehub after publishing this video that I’ve contacted extralite about, their support have been super helpful and quick to respond. Hopefully everything will be sorted soon, and I’ll try to give a more thorough update later on.

[@Digi20]

I use a SRAM PG-1170 11-36 casette with shimano 701 and 901 chains and its silent and well shifting (actually i find it shifting less rough but maybe a bit slower) than shimano cassettes. so no problems here.

[@patrickkatzmair]

I love your weightweenieness but no hubsound? Come on! 😆 Otherwise, brilliant as always!

[@ridesofjapan]

Hehe. I’m in “the quieter the better camp” so I try to ignore freehub noise... the extralite hubs are on the quieter side fortunately 😬 Cheers mate !

[@andreas.charalambides]

Thanks for sharing. Too much for a wheelset for me but it's beautiful and light set. Enjoy

[@AgingBoy]

Great video. I especially like the beginning

[@antoniskapnoulas767]

Nicely done mate!

[@isan807]

Have you check the Leonardi General Lee Cx 9-36? Is even ligther(230gr) than the XX1 (XG1199) or the X01(XG1195) that many people recomend you. It gets you a range of 400%, a bit more than a 11-42 (381%) and a bit less than a 10-42 (420%). The only problem is that it can be hard for some people (not for you) move a 42t ring, but you always can go for a 40t ring and save a few grams.

[@yoshim100579]

I have both the XT and SRAM cassettes too and find the SRAM louder as well.

[@wtharper10]

I run the XG 1175 cassette and a SRAM PC-X1 chain (with the Force 1 RD) and they were fairly noisy from day one, sadly. (Though I don't have any experience on Shimano 1x systems.)

[@ridesofjapan]

Good to know! Cheers!

[@normanzielke6108]

I am not sure whether this applies to this particular hub, but some Extralite hubs use rubber O rings to keep the pawls into place. This is proper "race day only" material and little scary...

[@RixterNow]

Great video. Loved the intro. Appreciate the transparency, as always. BTW what brand of digital caliper do you use? I know you're always very particular about your bike tools. I wonder if splurging on a set of Japanese calipers is really worth it

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheer mate! 🙏 Actually they are some generic digital calipers I found super cheap on a “city commune sale” where I live, maybe ¥1500 ($15) or something like that, so nothing special at all. But they work fine for taking a few measurements here and there.

[@RixterNow]

Rides of Japan thanks

[@vonweizhacker]

Finally! I was wondering when you switch to Schraam for your 1by setup. I guess eTap AXS HAS to come next! (; The noise should stop after more riding. I have that all the time when I change drivetrain parts.

[@ridesofjapan]

Good to hear that noise improves with time! Don't see myself going AXS any time soon, even with the Eagle rear mech, there's not many 12speed cassette out there with the ratio I want. Would love to try it for sure, but still too pricy for me to swap the whole drivetrain

[@vonweizhacker]

@@ridesofjapan Yeah, AXS is imo way to pricy even for us enthusiasts.

[@minwow]

Another amazing video! Can you do a review on the tyres you use? Best gravel / best road? Best combo for wheel size and tire width or something? Would love to see your opinion :D

[@ridesofjapan]

Not a bad idea... will put that in the idea list. If you want a quick answer, “fastest” I’ve ridden lately is probably the schwalbe pro one 28. Most comfortable tire, the compass switchback hill, best all-around for both road and gravel the gravelking slick 38. For really rough gravel, 650b 48 gravelking SK is what I’m really loving at the moment.

[@jeffservaas]

I’m also keen to hear your comparison of the 32 vs 38 Gravelking. I’m running Compass 44 slicks for mixed terrain riding and thinking about a set of 32 tyres for faster road group riding.

[@rascal1234]

Bike Anorexia. The irrational pursuit for an ever lighter bike.

[@crypto_que]

So embarrass me.

[@rickykiller90]

I have the weight weenies decease, and my credit card knows that!!🤣

[@tanbceug]

Hello, I really enjoyed watching this video on the Extralite wheels. Looking forward to see your future reviews on this wheelset. I was inspired by you in that previous video on the Lupina, and now I am a very happy owner of a Lupina who have put in thousands of km on it and loving every bit. And now, I am looking closely at this wheelset too! However, it having to a preloader and also a 6-bolt was a deal breaker. I would think that centrelocks and removing the preloader from the hubs, will actually make it lighter? Looking forward to your future vids. Ride on!!

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers mate! I’ll do a follow up video on theses soon. But regarding preload pretty much all hubs have some kind of preload mechanism so that’s not something that is unusual. Back when I had a set of wheels with Chris king r45 hubs I needed to adjust the preload on those as well after some riding. It’s not that big of deal even on the extralite. But if you don’t want to mess around with that stuff I probably still wouldn’t recommend them.

[@AndreasIhm]

Great video! I still wonder how and why there is no industry standard for axial disc position and axial cassette position especially on modern 12x142 and 12x100 hubs and frames. It really is frustrating to re-adjust gears and calipers everytime you swap wheels. Anyway... I love your edit. Your bike is awesome.

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers mate! There’s probably a standard out that the the manufacturers follow but I imagine they include some tolerance to play within. And a fraction of a mm would quickly result in needing to readjust unfortunately. (I’m just speculating though)

[@mryard8098]

loving the videos, keep it up

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers mate! 🙏

[@mariosimas]

Love the 12K rim á la Corima :)

[@AdamPopovec]

Use spacers for rotors to align them, for noise, I noticed Sram chain was really loud on shimano casette but it is much quieter on Sram casette.

[@ridesofjapan]

That might be what I need to try eventually. The rotor shims are a good idea, cheers! But even if I align the rotor I still need to reset the pistons as the rotor is thicker between the two wheelsets.

[@AdamPopovec]

@@ridesofjapan Modify some tyre lever to pry between the pads to push the pistons in.

[@mtbboy1993]

floating rotors only tick when they cool down, that sounds like a campfire sound, to get that you will have to go fast and brake.

[@EditioCastigata]

SRAM chains are a tiny bit narrower than Shimano ones. In other words, SRAM cassette with SRAM chain, Shimano cassette can be driven with both chains. (A mildly worn Shimano chain will work w/o issues, though.)

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers mate! 👍

[@chrikim67]

Great video as ever. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make them. I really enjoy them. I'm feeling the one bike fits all philosophy, especially when it's a bike like yours :-D But then I think about winter with snow/salt on the roads and clubrides where mudguards are mandatory. Oh I need a winter bike as well, and maybe one for commuting... Oops, so much for that philosophy :-D But seriously, your videos have given me food for thought :-)

[@ridesofjapan]

Hearing that makes me appreciate living in japan even more 🤓

[@cosinus_square]

So, I watched all the recent videos with you rebuilding your bike and it has turned out great I have to say, congrats and hope you enjoy it for a long time with no more incidents. But, it begs the question, why not Sram eTap 1x11 to begin with? Not a fan of wireless? Not a fan of Sram maybe? Or maybe you just reused what was available from your old bike on this build, but as you built the crashed one from the ground up as well, again, why not wireless? Everything aside, I enjoyed your videos and you got yourself a new subscriber.

[@ridesofjapan]

Hey mate thanks for checking out my videos 🙏 I’ve been a di2 user/fanboy since 2012 so I have a hard time letting go if what been so satisfied with. I have noting against SRAM, although I’m not a fan of the lever shape personally. The “old” etap was never 1x compatible right? 🤔 Even the wifli didn’t support 42 cassette let alone 46 out of the box from what I understand. Another reason is that sram is ALOT more expensive in japan, and to top it of sram geo blocked online retailers from selling to japan so it’s not easy to get hold of the components at reasonable prices. I would love to try it for sure, but it’s not worth the investment for me at this time.

[@cosinus_square]

@@ridesofjapan Wow, bad move Sram, blocking sales in certain countries. I did not know that. Using Di2 makes sense now. Not sure on the old 1x as the way the shifters work, can only see shimano work independently for 1x. I am building a titanium framed road bike (not gravel) so it is heavy to begin with, disc is not required so I went for Sram red etap 2x11, caliper groupset. Love the fact that you can slap it on any frame if going for caliper brakes. The restriction of the caliper brakes is maximum tyre width will be 25mm, which for road only is ok. Waiting for it to arrive as I'm typing. But anyway, keep up the good work mate. (Edited some typing errors)

[@ticklefritz5406]

Hello Tobias, You may have already addressed this, I'm not sure. I noticed when you built up your latest OPEN U.P. you put the Junction A into the left handlebar drop, as opposed to your first U.P. build being in the right side drop. Can you share why you made this change? Your new rotors are SO sweet!

[@ridesofjapan]

Tickle Fritz with the di2 cable from the bb running along the rear brake hose into the right shifter, it was the routing that allowed me to use the shortest cables. Also as we ride on the left side of the road here, I have the right side free if I eventually would put a light or a mirror there for some bigger rides (not that I have any plans for it but good to have the option)

[@ticklefritz5406]

@@ridesofjapan Thank you, I knew you had a good reason for the switch. I'm noticing as I build up my U.P.P.E.R. that the stock Dura Ace caliper bolts are not long enough to go through the fork for the front caliper or the chainstay for the rear caliper, did you get some longer caliper bolts for the OPEN frame?

[@ridesofjapan]

Tickle Fritz yes, These bolts: Fork 30mm deep: Item No. Y8N208030: amzn.to/2wTtmd7

[@ticklefritz5406]

@@ridesofjapan You are the OPEN answer man! Thank you, sir.

[@Drt0Kkdo]

Those are beautiful 😭

[@owlyredish3365]

I'll keep an eye on your site for when you sell them :)

[@peterderuiter2937]

That bike is one beauuttyyyyy, wow.

[@christophbuomberger8375]

freaking nice weight! I'm curious how you get on with the hubs as I was thinking about them, but not yet sure if I want to go with anything else that DT either. Please make a review video in a couple of weeks

[@ridesofjapan]

I will report back eventually, but probably more than a few weeks, want to get A LOT more distance on them, and get at least one overhaul done on them so be able to give some valuable impressions.

[@rasmuswi]

I keep watching this clip over and over again. Those wheels look so damn nice! Too bad I can't really justify getting a pair of climbing wheels when I live in Stockholm, I barely even get to use the gravel wheels. I do almost all my riding with deep section aero wheels and 25mm tires...

[@ridesofjapan]

Definitely don't recommend these for anything other that some serious climbing :)

[@deanhersey7239]

I am using the same cassette, chain and chaining on my Open. It is loud too. I would be interested to see what you decide to change too. Thanks for the entertaining videos, keep up all the good work! Cheers Dean Pedal Addict (@pedaladdict)

[@ridesofjapan]

Pedal Addict I'll probably do a follow-up video eventually, but to spoil that a bit, I will most likely go back to a shimano cassette. I guess I'm not weight weenie enough to take that noise 😬 Cheers!

[@HShaud]

Fantastic videos as always! Did you experience flex when climbing out of the saddle? I have reasonably light disc wheels (~1400g) which flex enough to cause the brakes to rub when pushing hard out of the saddle. I think in the quest for lightweight, stiffness is sacrificed...probably due to low spoke counts i guess.

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers mate! On my first ride (with the creaking) I did experience more disc rub than I’m used to when out of the saddle. After adjusting the preload it improved significantly, no rubbing from a “cold” start... but still had some rubbing after heavy braking then on to a climb, but that most likely my pistons not retracting fast enough. I’m a very lightweight at 64kg, I could easily see heavier riders having more problem with disc rub.

[@wigglybuff64]

I use XT 11-42 on my Rival 1 bike vs SRAM. Even with the sram chain it is considerably quieter than the sram cassette.

[@ridesofjapan]

Good to know! Cheers for the feedback!

[@arnonym7941]

The lightest disc wheel set is made by ax-lightness they are 850g for a pair

[@bodoprobst]

Try a SRAM chain as it will decrease the noise, it did on my side

[@RogerioCosta1.0]

I think you need a lighter carbon scale to carry to the moutains. =P

[@MrSmoothasf]

Those Hope rotors usually rub unless they are on hope calipers.

[@MrSmoothasf]

Ahhh just got a bit further in the video, 1 washer just before the caliper usually works, well it did for me

[@jonienglish3231]

Keep Saving for the SRAM AXS !!!!!!!!!! or Maybe Shimano has a Wireless XTR in 2020

[@thomase9517]

Best brake upgrade ever! Galfer brake pads...

[@ridesofjapan]

Interesting, will look into those next time it’s time for a swap!

[@jesse-dg8yx]

So I'm not super into road bikes but this was still an interesting video. Why are the spokes 2 cross on one side but straight on the other?

[@raycath0de]

its to balance the flex by having an assymetric stiffness on one side of the wheel, more torque comes through on the drive side of the hub

[@tygrewesterfield841]

Speaking as a fan of Sram, their cassettes do tend to be noisier. But the new AXS cassettes ride more like Shimano.

[@justinmiller7083]

Nice shoes!

[@justinmiller7083]

Sphyre?

[@tonyoswald3013]

Hi Again, following on from my GKSK comments on another video, can I ask is there a technical/composition difference between the "New Brown" and the "old Brown" of the sidewalls? Thanks.

[@ridesofjapan]

I have no idea actually, I really wanted to see the the difference in color before I ordered the tires but couldn't find any comparisons out there, so that's why I included that clip. The old brown doesn't look that good in my opinion and I had hoped that the "new" was going to be an even lighter shade... more like Tan, but it's still definitely brown. If it has changed the durability of the tire or not I have no idea unfortunately.

[@tonyoswald3013]

@@ridesofjapan okay, thanks for that. I'm loving your videos, the Schwalbe Nightmare is hilarious, but only because I've done exactly the same thing - I. Feel Your. Pain. I'm off to replace the tubeless rimtape ozone of my 650Bs for the new WTB Sendero - WML! Happy riding!

[@hh14hh14hh14hh14]

great video as always! just wondering if you don't get a kafun-sho?

[@ridesofjapan]

I didn’t think I did... but listing to the end of this video you can almost hear my voice change... don’t know if that had anything to do with the pollen.... it wasn’t bothering me at the time. Never experienced any symptoms before either.

[@rgsshed3803]

As much as i totally agree witht he whole ethos of weight weinnie ism. You havr to look at it pragmatically. Hub weight makes a difference on paper but in real world riding id rather have a pair of super light rims and a solid hub aka 240s. Because the difference that Rotary weight makes is massive especially the further it is from it rotational axis if you know what i mean.

[@ridesofjapan]

Very true! My logical brain knows you are 100% correct... my not so logical brainstem don’t work that way ;) I toyed with the idea of getting a set build up in 240 hubs from lightbicycle but I still didn’t get under 1300g... I haven’t done the math on these rims but they must be on the lighter end of the scale to get the total weight down to 1080g though.

[@rgsshed3803]

@@ridesofjapan it truely is a disease but you know what's worse than a disease having your boutique super light wheels tic and make noise I would loose it. Good that its fixed but at first it must have been utterly horrid.

[@ridesofjapan]

Yeah, I was disappointed for sure. But I always try to find a positive angle, it made me tinker with my bike more and that always a fun! 😊 How they will work out in the long run I will have to see, but there’s always good lessons to be learnt.

[@rgsshed3803]

@@ridesofjapan yea exactly tinkering is quintessential to this ridiculous endeavour we call a sport

[@aldepal]

Try putting rubber bands inbetween the sram cogs see if that helps reduce chain noise

[@ridesofjapan]

Oh, never heard that trick before! Have you tried it?

[@aldepal]

Rides of Japan yes the rubber wear out and fall off eventually but it works. You can get the bands made by Sram made specifically for their XG cassettes separately on eBay

[@ridesofjapan]

Allan O Castro awesome, will look into that, cheers!

[@ianiscaratti4924]

had sram red chain and cassette on my 1x11 roadbike then changed to shimano dura ace and its so much quieter

[@ridesofjapan]

Interesting are you using a sram cassette as well?

[@ianiscaratti4924]

first yes: 1. sram red chain red cassette 2. dura ace chain red cassette 3. kmc the light golden one and ultegra cassette 4. now dura ace chain and ultegra cassette and its by far the quietest combo my friends now don't laught anymore when we climb and my 1by roadbike isn't louder than theyrs

[@JippaJ]

XD cassettes just make a lot of noise. Since they are one piece you just get the whole cassette vibrating. Maybe go for Compass tyres to decrease the weight even more?

[@ridesofjapan]

I was looking at compass as well, but the lightest tubeless compatible they do is 35mm and they are a tad heavier than the gravelking 32. (Also about twice the price)

[@JippaJ]

@@ridesofjapan My bad! Forgot that you run tubeless.

[@molybdnum]

Camera work on that climb was smoooooth. How'd you get that?

[@ridesofjapan]

GoPro hero 7, hyper smooth :)

[@1977markfielding]

Nothing to do with the GoPro. Must have all been my steady hands 😜

[@filipwalicki3304]

I my self found that Shimano hain just slightly rubbing on 12t while on 10t. No other differences in noise between Sram and Shimano hains ive noticed.

[@ridesofjapan]

Good! Cheers for the feedback... looks like need to give the indexing another go.

[@EditioCastigata]

@@ridesofjapan Take a look on Shimano's guidelines for mechanics for a trick: If you had a FD you'd place a 10mm hex thingy between your FD and frame to get the perfect cable tightness. For setting up a RD: Shift to the second lowest and pedal backwards, adjusting the RD so it barely gets the chain to jump to the 3rd. Pedal forwards, remove the noise, you're done and it'll be perfect.

[@OmarTan]

Hmm, so do you have a PM on this bike? If so what model?

[@ridesofjapan]

Omar Tan nope, I don’t ride with a PM

[@fernandotollens200]

Need help on deciding on a light saddle, for climb racing. I just got a Aethos, so I’m a begging on weight constrains. My choices are the Tune, lupina but I’m leaning to the selle italia c59 bs is more recognizable. However, I do like you berk paded saddle. The c59 as a 60g is amazing. But what is your recommendation.

[@MiloslavSirovy]

Hi, do you consider using tubular instead of clincher wheels? Tubular wheels are lighter. Lots of weightweenies using them :)

[@ridesofjapan]

Yeah, had tubs once on my old SS evo, just not very practical for my riding. And I think it’s pretty hard to find nice quality light once at 32c and up. Definitely no denying the weight savings that can be done with tubulars. though.

[@mtbboy1993]

I found 4 zipties between pads and rotor t ease the aliment/setup, I also always have zipties in case I have to align it when I am out.

[@tmcd4565]

Also...just wanted to ask if you could arrange your Amazon deal to extend to Canadians like me who shop on Amazon.ca? I see that only now works in the U.S., UK and DE.

[@timdixo]

What did the panaracers 32C swell up to RoJ?

[@ridesofjapan]

timbo damnit I knew I had forgot to include something in the video. The tires are spot on 32mm. From experience the gravelking seem to end up as they are advertised. Even my big 650b 48 are pretty much spot on as well.

[@timdixo]

Rides of Japan Ta,I’ve been eyeing them off,always disappointed when tyres come up way off advertised!

[@ridesofjapan]

timbo yeah, have had the same experience with other tires as well. I do think you can get some variation if you have really wide rims (inside) but the gravelkings is the ones that stayed closest to advertised size for me. The conti 4k2 28 got over 30mm on my old road rims.

[@jakob-ro]

concerning noise from the cassette: did you use a new chain? new cassette vs old chain mostly leads to a noisy drivetrain - indepentent from the shimano/sram-mixture.

[@ridesofjapan]

It’s not a brand new chain, I don’t have a huge amount of distance on it though, still good point! Cheers!

[@jakob-ro]

In this case I'd give it another go. Pretty confident the noise will be less if not completely gone after a few more rides. The components have to get used to each other :-)

[@nicoweststeyn2761]

@@ridesofjapan - I agree with Jakob, even a slightly worn chain on a new cassette will cause issues, whereas a new chain on a slightly worn cassette is usually not as much of a problem. I use KMC X11-SL chains on my gravel setups, which mix Easton chainrings with Sram XD cassettes

[@ridesofjapan]

Nico Weststeyn might have to check out that Kmc chain next. Cheers!

[@garethnorwood7596]

For such a light wheelset why are you not using titanium rotor bolts?

[@czinra]

I have a sram casette paired with shimano chain. Its noisy compared to a shimano chain and casette.

[@repiola174]

Hi! I have the Roval Alpinist CL II. They weight 1265gr (Dt Swiss 350 hub). Would you advise to go for the Extralight 38 considering the hubs might require more fine tuning? Best

[@maxplx82]

Like as always, great content. But still can’t understand why people fighting with weight even if you’re pure climber. IMHO fitness as a key to improve, but tune the bike also a great hobby!

[@ridesofjapan]

I get that sentiment, and such more healthy and economic too. My interest is with the bike and the exploration it brings, fitness was never the focus for me.... bad combo 😆

[@BrentonCollas]

But we also know you are about 185cm and 70kgs? Not much weight to lose there...

[@ridesofjapan]

Brenton Collas much worse than that actually, 64kg 😰 Also found out I’ve shrunk about two 2cm on my last health check up... surgery on legs apparently makes them shorter haha

[@BrentonCollas]

I couldn't imagine being 16kgs lighter. You are at pro weight level...

[@aldepal]

Save a few more grams by using 4 bolts only instead of six 😄

[@ridesofjapan]

Allan O Castro that’s dedication 😁

[@herosstratos]

Allan O Castro Using 4 bolts instead of 6 will lead to an unequal load of the bolts. By using only two bolts the load can be equally distributed.

[@aldepal]

Heros Stratos you install the bolts in cross pattern so the empty holes are not next to each other

[@leegarrett5469]

Titanium bolts?

[@EditioCastigata]

@@leegarrett5469 Titanium (you will actually buy an Al+Ti alloy) is no good when it comes to shearing load. You can use them on your saddle (10-20g savings), stem (40-60g saved!), crank arms (20-40g saved); or replace the three in your RD (it's M4×14mm and two M4×11.5 on modern Shimano Road; three M4×14mm will do), though. If you really want them for your rotor, use between the three steel ones. FYI: Old threadlocker needs to be scrubbed down, apply new one (Loctite 222 or 2432 for anything Ti). But for Ti bolts on crank arms, saddle, and stem you'd use ceramic paste instead of threadlocker.

[@Digi20]

Did you meassure the gravelkings? :) how wide are they on those wheels? i have the same rim diamater and wonder if my road bike would fit them

[@ridesofjapan]

They are spot on 32mm according to my calipers

[@Digi20]

@@ridesofjapan thanks :)

[@bengt_axle]

Bearing adjustment for a wheel like this is totally normal. The bearings need to be seated and it is too time consuming and inaccurate to do this in the factory, because there are many different mitigating factors such as wear, the weight of the rider and even the type of lubricant. However, one thing that totally surprised me was to see a wheel on a bike packing frame that does not use sealed cartridge bearings. But then again, I was not expecting to see a wheel weight of less than 1,1 kg! Great video. Even your shirt and beanie match the grey carbon wheels!

[@ridesofjapan]

Yeah, I’m not worried about having to adjust things from time to time, I rather enjoy it actually. But there was a bit too much noise to make a good first impression. I’m guessing the normal thing is not to put these wheels in a gravel frame, so that’s on me :)

[@alexdyke7176]

Why not xg-1199?

[@_kowono]

How is the shifting with the di2 and SRAM cassette? I have a spare 11-42 and thinking that f getting an xdr driver for my wheels on my Bokeh

[@ridesofjapan]

Rob Chambers this shifting itself I had no issues with but it’s a lot noisier than a Shimano cassette. I’ve actually decided to go back to a Shimano cassette partly because of the noise (more on that in a future video) If you’re not that bother by drivetrain noise di2 on sram cassettes works fine. Might not be 100% as good as a shimano cassette but close.

[@_kowono]

@@ridesofjapan Cool, thanks. I really want the extra range the 10T for general riding and the top end for bikepacking or off-road climbs, but want to keep my 40T 1X chainring (I had 2X before).

[@porsche45353]

great video you sound like you have a Swedish axent

[@ridesofjapan]

Extreamly Swedish :)