THE LION AND SANGUINIUS! THEIR RELATIONSHIP AND REUNION

[@isawaryokage]

The fact that the Lion showed even an inkling of respect and consideration about Sanguinius is proof enough of his affection for the Angel. The Lion just doesn't show affection to people. And he grew to like and even cherish Sanguinius in their time together.

[@TKUltra971]

If only he got his social autism under control. He'd be a great warmaster. But he's no politician.

[@onnihalme2047]

in the son of the forest its clear that he definetely hold sanguinius in extremely high regard. im willing to bet that if given the choice both lion and guilliman would like to see sanguinius again the most.

[@eugenebelford9087]

It's not. It's just calculation, just as he did with Perturabo. He's still auditioning for the second in command spot. Spot the details! Just one example: Sanguinius arrives and the Smurf immediatly embraces him. However, since Sanguinius must be aware of the tension, he also embraces the Lion, which is more like a gesture of "OK, now we are three and I have no favourite at this point". And the Lion grasps that and thus for political reasons tolerates the embrace. I mean, what's more political/ diplomatic than saying: "I begin to see ...". Flip-Flop position par excellence.

[@David-li4uw]

@@eugenebelford9087 I disagree. In Son of the Forest, Lion wished he would have died instead of Sanguinius. Also when he got angry about Dante wearing the mask. Poor Lion is just on the spectrum and doesn’t know how to show affection.

[@LordBloodraven]

​@@eugenebelford9087Did El'Jonson ever admit to having given Perturabo those siege engines in exchange for Perturabo's promise to endorse El'Jonson as the new Warmaster to replace Horus? The fact that he doesn't disclose this agenda to Guillimon or Sanguinius makes me doubt his altruism as you do.

[@miguelperez9906]

The fact that in 40K he willingly puts a significant amount of his sons under Dante’s command until he tells them otherwise is a silly amount of trust to put in the exemplar of your brother . The lion really is like a cat who picked its person

[@2012sonora]

Wait, when did that happen?

[@eugenebelford9087]

Ehm, no. Because that is hindsight.

[@miguelperez9906]

@@2012sonora here is part of the excerpt whilst the Lion departed in the wake of the battle in order to reorganise his badly mauled Chapter and pursue his own hidden agendas, the Dark Angels and their successor Chapters have agreed to contribute a sizeable number of warriors and vessels to Dante's fledgling Fleet Nihilus. Captain Lytheus of the Penitent Blades has remained upon Baal to oversee the Unforgiven attached to Dante's battlefleet;

[@andrewwelham8633]

Sitting here, downloading Space Marine 2, listening to Rho. Good times.

[@mikelund327]

Same

[@mzamethodman7134]

It is incredible brother!, purge the Xenos filth in the name of The Emperor!

[@RenYori2099]

The Lion: You won't see me being hugged. Vulcan: Hold my hammer.

[@Scott_the_Celt]

I imagine it'd be like when Vulkan hugged Dorn

[@insertedgynamehere]

@@RenYori2099 lion hugged gulliman of his own volition.

[@AdamMason-w7z]

Bro I laughed for like 5 min. Thank u

[@VallornDeathblade]

"The Lion's old man bones must too be embraced they do" ~ TTS Vulcan.

[@psychedashell]

Russ hugged him across the edge of a sword.

[@nevilo1]

Sanguinius: Lion, don't bombard the civilian populacion again. Lion: But Sanguiiiii, Conrad is there somewhere, I'm sureee.

[@ShadowGhost0117]

Farith Redloss: Allow me to present a loophole in these conditions.

[@David-li4uw]

He did catch him. 😂

[@darththesungod3578]

As an older brother, my siblings have surpassed me in many ways, but I've found at times they look to me for my morality. Sanguinis wasn't asking for permission, he was asking the Lion if he thought it was right. He trusts his morals more than Guilimans brains.

[@vontheunknown7982]

I wonder, if we see the Loyalists Primarhes and others. Talk to Sanguinius body one by one to say their goodbyes, to their beloved angel brother. But what do you guys think? 😢

[@shanepatrick4534]

My two Favorite Primarchs, Sweet!

[@Krulltårta]

Doesnt every close brotherhood have a sangy? We had anyways, marcus wargclou(wolfclaw)was his name. He was not just best at everything,he was overly superior. But his overly kind heart had us all protecting him more than FIERCELY even when he was the strongest. He crashed his car and died the same day he signed for his first apartement,togheter with his girl. He was 21. Rip makkan

[@highlandus]

Sounds like a pussy if he crashed

[@nax8159]

One point that's more 40k but has implications for 30k (Son of the Forest Spoilers): The entity that attacked Lion, be it formed from his own mind, Big E, Chaos or a mix of all of the above; when it took Sanguinius' form, it didn't attack Lion. Which says a lot imo

[@NN-ov7td]

Thought sanguinius was back based off the title lol clicked so fast

[@gato13k]

I feel ya

[@insertedgynamehere]

I'm pretty sure he did that on purpose

[@kinnusai4432]

Totally accidental I'm sure... Nothing makes me close the video immediately quite like bullshit click bait titles. Which is a shame cause his content is better than that.

[@danielgrears2003]

Same

[@NN-ov7td]

@kinnusai4432 that's not how I felt at all. Wlr is a staple in the community leave him alone

[@Reyma777]

While I believe Guilliman would most likely never betray the Imperium due to his desires for humanity to prosper. I feel Guilliman, at his core, is loyal to Ultramar. If he could safely seceded Ultramar from the Imperium, he would. Thus I believe in the current canon, Guilliman and the Lion will have conflicting interests, as the latter will always be suspicious. The Lion and the Angel are completely loyal.

[@usofliberty]

Perhaps that would have been a concern based upon his pre-injury actions, but in the novels after his recovery he made all effort to demonstrate to all that he was not just the lord of Ultramar. After all he has done to prove that he is working for then entire Imperium it wouldn't make much sense to suspect him of favoritism in his actions. Now as for where his heart lies, of course home is home.

[@David-li4uw]

@@usoflibertyAgree. In the new lore, Papa Smurf seems to have learned his lesson from IS and is embarrassed about it.

[@jacobstephens6073]

This is a very cool video! I haven't read the books, but I love this except. I especially like a story of somebody giving a hug to someone who isn't usually hugged :)

[@ultramarinechaplain88]

I know this is quite off topic, but i just read in the HH series how it was indirectly referenced that there was only 1 primarch that was 100% immune from the chaoss gods corruption which is why only this 1 primarch was told about it by the emperor. This came up when dorn,sanguinius,jaghatai and malcador were discussing why none of the primarchs were ever told about chaos by the emperor. He wasnt named, but we all know that 1 primarch was the lion

[@johanstinson]

Lion already knew from growing up on Caliban and battling demons his whole life. Plus, he's the most loyal Son

[@chuckmarcinko723]

We have here both my eldest son's favorite primarch/faction (Blood) and mine (Dark). A great story to listen to.

[@KarbhonBlaC]

If I did a livecast of SM2 , I would have the ultramarines theme playing low-key in the background from TTS it would not need to change from beginning to end .

[@Artofwarthebookof5rings]

The Goats

[@mattybbg6850]

My takeaway from this, hawk boi is a big softy hug-monster.

[@jackmyers8687]

Need a vid talking about everyone who hated Rowboat

[@mbra8228]

Hey Wolf Rho, regarding the Unremembered Empire - did you also feel like its absurdly diproportionate How easy it was at the beginning of the book to capture a massive demon inside a Flask And then use it at the end as an ACTUAL solution to stop a rampaging primark?

[@natebartels1444]

I think the Lion probably had the least interaction with the other primarchs during the Great Crusade.

[@davidhannant451]

Lets hear loin meets gilliman

[@kostasmpyras]

Ι miss Sanguinius so much bros

[@docvaliant721]

Lion and Sanguinius together could have taken Horus.

[@Lameyoutubehandle]

Have you read TEATD?

[@subzero47pl]

Who knows when Russ return he would try to hug Lion just to troll and piss him off😝

[@mediocore808]

Boom!

[@Skarpur]

In what book did Dante meet The Lion?

[@huguesfalk5956]

Arks of omen 5 : the lion

[@Cornerboy73]

The first meeting is also covered in the book "Lion: Son of the Forest".

[@Skarpur]

@@huguesfalk5956 thanks man :)

[@Skarpur]

@@Cornerboy73 already read! Thanks anyway :)

[@Skarpur]

@@huguesfalk5956 so, follow up question. I take it you can't find these books for sale anymore? Unless I want to pay double on ebay or something :)

[@Lowlyking2001]

39 seconds ago is diabolical

[@sintaribat9350]

The Lion.. the only primarch to think.... Sanguinius and Conrad.. i could be rid of them both...😂

[@Saintjackoftrades]

I have to watch your videos at 1.25 or 1.5 speed.

[@eugenebelford9087]

I'm sorry, but enduring a hug isn't a sign of respect, brotherhood or friendship. In particular not in this situation: These three are transhumans constantly playing 4D-chess: to rebuke the embrace, to not play along in this situation - and thus by extension to prematurely force Sanguinius' hand in terms of picking a side - would just have been a stupid and blatant move.

[@sugarcombfilms3467]

I have an issue with both Unremembered Empire and Ruinstorm in that the writers didn't seem that interested in exploring real relationship dynamics, especially with the Lion. For Christ sake, he's in the majority of Unremembered Empire and Sanguinius barely shows up at the end of the book and yet the cover is Guilliman and Sanguinius with the Lion nowhere to be found. The Horus Heresy in general is just too heavily Sanguinius-biased

[@TheEddism]

Still pronouncing Th as F then?

[@sanguiniuswarhammer4669]

BORING!!! Do something on the Men of Iron, the Dark Age of Technology, Golden age etc, STC's. Sick and tired of Primarchs, have some imagination for crying out loud!!!!!!!!

[@AndyAshworth-h6w]

Not that much lore dark age etc, would be interesting though, lots on the primarchs, creators go for what generate the clicks

[@Supreme-Grand-Master-Gargamel]

Then don't listen! Nobody asked you to follow Rho!

[@AndyAshworth-h6w]

Didn't say I didnt enjoy the content, keep up the good work rho, was just obervation on the content, 64 novels on the horus heresy, don't know everyting about golden age, dark age, still limited content when compared to heresy.

[@roykemm8387]

Leave…

[@adrianp7882]

It's the dark age what u expect