The Long Term Risks of TRT | Testosterone Replacement Therapy | with Dr. Rand McClain

In this video, Dr. Rand McClain shares his opinion on the long term risks of Testosterone Replacement Therapy. Dr. Rand McClain was recently interviewed on The Mind Pump Podcast: Episode 1607
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[@willvinson5829]

In my late forties, energy crashed, already had four children. Did my research, started TRT, and at 52, I feel incredible and never looked back.

[@rrice3142]

What clinic did you use ?

[@willvinson5829]

@@rrice3142 I use my local family doctor -- he inserted pellets to start with but I had more consistent results with weekly T injections.

[@rrice3142]

@@willvinson5829 thank you

[@willvinson5829]

@@rrice3142 ur welcome- just get your t checked- mine was 232 which is why I felt like crap

[@rrice3142]

@@willvinson5829 I have been on TRT for a little over a month now. But not feeling much better. My levels were at 220 when I started. Wondering if I need a better doctor. I’m on 200 mg, twice weekly injections.

[@cameronforeman1043]

I would love to be one of Dr. Mclain’s patients. Been a fan of his for years now.

[@MavsMegaFan]

Very Clutch video, appreciate it

[@Turboy65]

I am on TRT, been on it for three years since 55. I feel great, I'm energetic, I work out 3 to 6 days a week, almost a bodybuilder program, I'm way above average muscle mass and strength for ANY age group, and I plan to use TRT for life. It may not make me live longer but I think it will definitely give me a longer HEALTH span.

[@Josh-py2pq]

You want less brain fog, more energy, better sleep, great numbers that are off the chart good for your health, the. get on TRT. It’s an absolute game changer. Been on it for 3 plus years and it’s incredible.

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

I had a varicocele a few years back and had to go on TRT (around 2013). My levels have been in the 900- 1100 range since then and I can see no ill effects. Actually, it turned my life around health-wise.

[@victoriaobu5055]

The healing rate of my testosterone level increased very fast after I used the super herbs I got from Dr Igho KZbin channel, he gave me a good impression that it is gonna work and it did work because right now I don't longer experience symptoms I use to experience I now have strong Erections

[@steve5fdp]

I had a varicocele too and I feel like that's why mine is 400 at 33 years old but they says that is normal and I havr had low fatigue and sleep problems.

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

@@steve5fdp my levels were at 150 and I felt horrible all the time. Took me too long to finally do something and the permanent damage was done. I would tell any guy if he suspects that he has low T, don't procrastinate. Get it checked out

[@victoriaobu5055]

@@steve5fdp Dr Igho could help you out

[@vvs1855]

@@marcus_ohreallyus did you hop on trt ? Is so did it help?

[@travispowell4490]

I was also diagnosed with hypogonadism. My mom has hyperthyroidism and my dad had issues with his prostate. Currently preparing for the second time with TRT via an Endocrinologist.

[@ReluctantGarbageCollector]

May I ask what was the cause of your hypogonadism? I have it as well but don't know the reason.

[@travispowell4490]

@@ReluctantGarbageCollector it was either a stress reaction or it's been since my birth. I had other issues during puberty and it just caught up to me I feel later in life. Somebody else said it could have been Covid related🤷🏿‍♂️

[@Mohamed-xb1um]

Give us an update

[@therealslimdavygoat]

I'm in my early 40s. Got tested and my Test: 80 and Est:10 . I've been on .5ml 2x a week for 3 months and taking a Est blocker. I'm now at Test:432 Est: 10 . My Natropath Said to stop......thats good enough. I still have low energy, but mood and overall is way better 💪

[@tanizaki]

@@AmericanGlassInc 250 mg/week is a low cycle dose.

[@tanizaki]

@@AmericanGlassInc That’s not the 250 mg: /week you mentioned. Do you think there are 8-10 days in a week? Is that how long a week is to you?

[@Smanjin2M]

Naturopathy is a scam

[@30mattdavies]

Get off the anti E. horrendous practice

[@albertc2390]

My issue with TRT is dependency. Mind you, i have not taken it but that is why. The literature suggests that if you take TRT, it is long term and you will be worse off coming off of it than when you started. That doesn't sound safe to me.

[@NaturalMeAmerica]

At 60 my free test was 62.5 at the low end using the particular refference range. At 62 it dropped to 41.I want to knoe why?

[@Yzinger5]

Well I’d love to share someone without exposures experience. They have a health condition, issues around puberty. They were a late bloomer and never fully rea reached the average Norm T level. 300 was their mark. Now in their mid thirties , they are at 280. Went on TRT for three months and levels are at 800. It’s definitely helped their overall well being and life style. But he’s also scared of the Side effects long term. Unfortunately if he stops the levels will just go back down and natural boosting T foods and supplements just aren’t enough for the condition and situation. I feel kinda bad and stuck for him and his options.

[@mikaelsnake]

If you take trt for a therapeutic reason and you don't abuse it, you won't get any side effects. Side effects come when you abuse it.

[@juz882010]

​@@mikaelsnake gynecomastia isn't from abusing TRT, its in your genetics... if you are pre-disposed(in your family) you will get it.... doesn't mean you abused TRT.

[@Pieter_Lion]

What about the increase in hematocrit? Isnt that bad for your health? How do people on TRT manage that?

[@MF-hz6xx]

Green stripes is on it and slinging too. I’m good we might talk in the future doc

[@weezerwookie]

i was anemic, pre diabetic and had high cholesterol, plus I could never grow a beard and suffered from low confidence, focus, self esteem, sexual performance, a myriad of stuff. that's cuz i had only 65 total testosterone thanks to a high prolactic problem my sisters and I share. TRT has helped on all those fronts. there are some sides i don't like tho.

[@austin7530]

What side effects?

[@monicamendez2128]

Who old are u?

[@weezerwookie]

@@monicamendez2128 got that reading at age 35 and started trr, close to 39 now

[@weezerwookie]

@@austin7530 breathing issues, prostate enlargement, excess mucus rhinitis.

[@gRIO904]

@@weezerwookie what kind of breathing issues?

[@BakiWho]

what about more risk of heart problems and cancer?

[@raymondsalazar5291]

Do you have any videos on KZbin that talks about gaining weight back after lots of weight loss being on TRT Two years later I’ve gone from 31% body fat down to 10% now I’m having a hard time gaining weight

[@sirgeoh]

Eat more beef and animal fats. Youll gain muscle which is what you want, not "weight".

[@rajauzair95]

I got hypogonadism aswell at 20s

[@vegetasfitnesschannel446]

I'm not saying I never agree with this however, I think people should try to do it naturally before going on TRT. If you train, eat, and manage your life right I think a vast majority of people wouldn't have to do it.

[@heuvelke1065]

Indeed and thats my goal.

[@mikaelsnake]

Increasing your testosterone levels by a factor of 50-100 with natural means doesn't account for shit when your test level is 200. You're talking about people with a 400 test level. You can try all you want but if it's lower than the low range of 300, nothing you can do naturally to make it worthwhile.

[@vegetasfitnesschannel446]

@@mikaelsnake Where exactly does it say that you can't naturally increase your test levels more than 50-100? I bet you it can probably go up quite more than that. If you start lifting consistently, eat good foods, sleep more, I bet you can shoot your test levels way up. Probably won't be as "effective" as TRT, however its probably much better for your health. This just sounds like an excuse to me....

[@mikaelsnake]

@@vegetasfitnesschannel446 No, this is coming from me, someone who starting bodybuilding for 6 years, managed to gain 30 kilos in muscle weight, stopped eating all sugar, stopped drinking all alcohol, only eat healthy food, and slept plenty. My test levels at the end of that was 224. My doctor did say I was a medical marvel and that I shouldn't have been able to do what I did. So no, it's not an excuse, it's a general fact. So unless you actually have read the studies, spoken to doctors, I would not say some stupid bullshit not backed by ANY SCIENCE.

[@vegetasfitnesschannel446]

Yeah what you're describing isn't really science. You are using yourself and a singular doctor as "scientific proof". If you look at the scientific evidence hierarchy this is essentially the lowest form of evidence. If you want to claim science then link some meta analyses or at least a few articles in peer reviewed scientific journals to make your case. My argument is based on my experience with multiple people and watching how lifestyle changes most likely increased their T levels. Without blood tests being taken I saw significant differences in muscle mass, assertive behavior, energy, etc. So it's likely in my view that this was the case. Also look at what other youtubers like Team 3D Alpha, or Natural Hypertrophy have to say on the topic. From what I've seen its very similar to what I'm saying. So in summation my original point remains the same.

[@drkrishnasaiholisticvet2830]

Well said 👍

[@adamsc1181]

When im old im most definitely getting on trt if its not expensive for me. Im 19 now so not for a longgg time. But it sounds amazing, if u really think about it, humans werent even supposed to be living this long. We were meant to die by like 30-40. Yall take vaccines, medication, if you and old guy an can afford it, hop on trt. Why tf not? Also i like being active, if trt lets me keep doing that till I die. Im with it

[@AlexeyArtemenk]

I'm with you on that. But the f..cking problem is to find how much we need to get all the benefits and avoid side effects.

[@gen-X-trader]

@@AlexeyArtemenk it's easy, the dose you take is tailored to your individual labs. There's no universal amount people take, it varies man-to-man. Around 100 mg a week is a normal starting point but that could be as low as 70 or as high as 200 depending on how your body responds. Basically you target trying to get close to the higher end of the free testosterone range. As for you young guys, what you really want to look for is lack of recovery, you just feel tired more often your muscles aren't recovering like they used to. Maybe your sleep suffers. Sex drive get kind of wonky. Maybe some people will tell you all of that is just part of getting older when all of this happens get your hormones checked. Pretty good chance you're going to test low

[@elliotrose8836]

@@gen-X-trader Definitely agree with you there man, I was thinking of starting at 100mg, I'm scared a side effect will fuck with my voice. As a singer I don't want my vocal range to decrease

[@Sparkofhope621]

I started taking trt at 27 to treat low-t (in the 400’s) I’m 28 now and I feel a lot better on it but is there a risk of younger people using it for decades on end as opposed to someone starting in their 40’s-50’s? It seems crazy I should just “deal with it” till my life passes me by and I have grey hairs before I start trt. All you about hear is the bad but they are also lumping 3 other steroids I have no interest in taking into the equation when they talk about abuse. Not trying to be a beef cake muscle monster just want to look and feel like my age instead of being weak and underweight no matter how much I eat and workout. Anyone one got experience with this?

[@brocrutter1025]

400 is in the normal range of testosterone. 300 - 1000 Nanograms per deciliter is normal. Some of these doctors have you guys fooled. If you are below 300 by a significant amount you should be taking it otherwise stay away from it. I'm sure you did feel great getting on it. Who does not feel great when juicing. 😂

[@Godsillah88]

the side effects i'm thinking aobut are the other horones that are shut down, like progesterone. Some will say that it's not important for men, but why would we have it? And i know many guys feel better with progesterone cream/pills, or hcg, so it has an effect.

[@redefv]

Worth it. I had found information on it from 2012 and was worried. Fact is they have it dialed in. Men's health clinics want to keep you alive and healthy. Mine thay I go to in Arizona monitor's everything. It is a process though. In month one I went from a 250 to a 478. I could get out of bed easier and was getting morning wood regularly again. After month three I am over 800 and lost my flabby titties and belly with little effort. Completely worth it. I am 42.

[@anthonypatterson264]

What is the cost for the clinic when you went? There are a few near me in Glendale/Peoria/Scottsdale and I am worried about price more than anything

[@redefv]

@Anthony Patterson the first 30 days is completely free because you and the clinic need to figure out a bunch of stuff. After that each month costs $230. Included in that price is your once weekly injections, once monthly blood tests, and they will cover basic medical needs as they always have doctors and nurses on site. It took three month to get me dialed in. The whole time I could see actual improvement. The wife was not real thrilled at first. I never had ED bit I also had almost no sex drive. After the first month she was making sure I kept going lol.

[@blackman9008]

damn my shit went lower than that

[@sircefiro]

Unfortunately I'm in New Zealand where Dr's have no clue, won't even allow me to add test etc levels to a blood test ffs

[@dannykicks603]

I’m in Nz.. just crash your natural levels with sarm’s and then get blood test. I know a doctor. You have a contact?

[@philmcrackinnow]

I would suggest that most people first stop eating unhealthy, start exercising, lose weight, take natural supplements, and stop unnecessarily exposing yourself to chemicals in things like unnatural deodorant that contain endocrine disrupters. If you do all of the above and still have low T, then get on TRT. The reason I say this is because TRT is synthetic testosterone, which means it’s made in a lab. You don’t want something unnatural in your body, unless it’s your last resort. Even if it were linked to a health condition, no one would tell you because too much money is made off of it. There are too many lazy and unhealthy men on TRT who don’t want to deal with the inconvenience of making healthy changes, so they take the easy way out.

[@kshinclair2548]

Lol no, safe or not I will not take any of those nasty unnatty steroid! -back to inhaling cigs and drinking vodka EOD-

[@steveborkowski4330]

Thank you.

[@philmcrackinnow]

@@trembling3674 I would do it until you’re 12-15% body fat, which is when testosterone is most optimal. If you’re too fat, it won’t be optimal, and if you’re too lean it won’t be optimal. Once you’re in that range and find the amount of calories it takes to maintain that weight, allow your body some time to adjust to the maintenance calories, because dieting can also lower testosterone if your deficit was large enough.

[@jackandrews7878]

@@philmcrackinnow there is no “most optimal” range for testosterone, just make sure you don’t get to a ridiculously low body fat level which is

[@philmcrackinnow]

@@jackandrews7878 10-15% bf is the best range for testosterone levels. Optimal means the best you can get out of the testosterone you produce naturally. If you’re not doing the right things, then it’s going to be below optimal. That’s why people who are unhealthy, don’t exercise, and are overweight have lower testosterone. They are instead doing things that will make their testosterone less than optimal.

[@x4v14dc]

Where do I test my testosterone levels? Can I do it via my primary doctor?

[@cristobal.palmero4919]

Order a hormone test online

[@niltomega2978]

Order a test online or tell your doctor to have it tested. Don't ask, tell them. There is no reason for your doctor to refuse a test

[@gen-X-trader]

Kind of same as everyone else. Early 40s, free testosterone was towards the lower end of the range. Got on trt, now 20-25 via labcorp. All aspects of life and performance are better. Only draw back in my case was the elevation of red blood cells. It's so worth doing some blood donations to feel normal again

[@a1sauce44]

sheesh, I'm only 20 years old and my free T came back at 8.8...

[@jacobcook1013]

@@a1sauce44 27 and mine came back at 1.4. 1 being the lowest

[@CrackerBarrelkid555]

@@a1sauce44 yeah mine was 7 I hopped on now it’s at 21

[@hippo-potamus]

But according to this doc there is absolutely no ill effects.

[@COESHP85]

@@a1sauce44it’s the shitty foods these days killing Test levels

[@fightfannerd2078]

So is it better to take trt when you get older 40s 50s?

[@returntothetruth1469]

No No Not at All The People Who require Trt are those who have abused Anabolic Steroids in past So there Natural Production get Out balance (Mostly Permanently) Normal Healthy Men don't need such crap

[@elliotrose8836]

Yeah ideally but some do in their 30s

[@chadlington1]

I plan on starting at 25 or so

[@Valhalla_Heathen]

I’m 34 and I’ve been thinking of doing TRT 💪🏻

[@Matty-mg9tf]

@@chadlington1 Why would you plan on taking it at 25 if you could potentially feel great and be healthy without it? 25 year olds shouldnt need TRT unless they have a medical issue thats legit.

[@mattarndt4452]

Hi Doc, I've been on TRT for over 5 years now. It, for the most part, has been a game changer. However, this last round of pellets hasn't been as effective in regards to libido and energy. could my body be adapting? I did have my testosterone checked recently and it was 961,which is about where I want it to be for optimal health and no side effects. Usually my libido is very strong 2 months into a treatment. Any thoughts?

[@mattarndt4452]

@Kris-D Thanks man. It could be another medical issue. I am dealing with other symptoms. Getting checked out. Also some marrital issues causing stress and depression.

[@sirgeoh]

Make sure you are not consuming alcohol, sugar, weed, wheat, soy etc. Just eat meat, fruit, veg, and grassfed dairy

[@SwoleTown]

testosterone isn't the only thing that affects libido... diet, stress (have to really look at all sources of stress), other issues.. etc.

[@Scoot12321]

I need some advice. I am a 23 year old male. I had my hormones screened and my results came back normal for my blood and iron levels and my estrogen was a 13. They said this is all normal however my testosterone was a 312. They said this is low especially for someone in their 20s. I suffer from neck and back pain and depression. Also had gyno surgery 2 years ago for a minor case of it but it came back in 2 months lol. M surgeon recommended I get my hormones checked and sure enough my t is low. Given my situation would trt be suitable long term for someone my age. A little background is I'm not sedentary. I worked at a moving company for a couple years and am a ups driver now. Also in the Army Reserve currently. I've never been overweight and always maintain a strong healthy physique. My diet is shit but my metabolism is fast so I never gain weight. I don't expect a doctor to give me a answer here and I am going in tomorrow to go over treatment options. But has anybody been in a similar situation as me and had good results with no health problems from it? I just want to make the right choice.

[@michaelhorvath6381]

That’s pretty low t. I’m 23 too in sorta the same spot as you. I’ve been on trt now for a month and I feel great

[@Scoot12321]

@@michaelhorvath6381Hey man thanks for the reply. What were your levels at before and after, how much do you notice your mood to stabilize? Also did you get prescribed it from a endo or go to a men's clinic? How tough is it to get a endo or urologist to prescribe it. The only thing I'm worried about is the possibility of going sterile from it, is that something they told you can happen?

[@gruntalot1]

I am 28, lowest i have been is 350 and it's really effecting me, I am going to try to get on TRT. Worried about all the side effects etc, but if it gives me a better quality of life.. you know it'll be worth it. I do not want to be ''Low normal'' and have the levels of a 70 year old. My erections, mood, everything is effected at the moment.

[@Scoot12321]

@@gruntalot1 I hear you man it's not fun. I go see a endo the 31st. I'm going to ask if there is a serious medical reason why I am so low. That's what I'm really nervous about. I want to see about other medications to increase it as well. I heard clomid raises your t and doesn't have any impact on your balls like trt can. But if trt is what they want me on I'm not opposed to it because quality of life is more important.

[@CrackerBarrelkid555]

@@Scoot12321 I suggest you start heavy lifting 3-4 x a week and doing some cardio while fixing that diet. As well as taking vitamins and supplements every day. Also drink lots of water.

[@Lipripper1047]

OK I would love to stay on TRT 36 years old 200 pounds. I have three kids that are fully grown well almost out of the nest. How do I take TRT and keep the symptoms of being a blunt asshole out of it

[@SwoleTown]

that doesn't happen unless you already are one....

[@niltomega2978]

Actually being low on TRT is more apt to make you a grumpy A hole.

[@fatsidekick]

This doc is hitting the TRT HEAVY lmao

[@NotBob-zw3zw]

the real question should be how does it affect longevity. Even an idiot knows quality of life and many health conditions are reversed and there is a reason why your body makes it naturally. No doubt. But concern is if a dude start TRT at say 50 or 60 how many more years will he live as opposed to had he not taken any testosterone exogenously .

[@dangerouspanda664]

Thanks, my doctor prescribed me 500mg test a week, I feel so great afterwards

[@muniswaransugumaran217]

How long it took to feel the difference?

[@aaronb1188]

Same here, my doc put me on 500mg a week but said I should replace the M&Ms I have as a treat with a handful of Dbols. I feel great, put on 40lbs in just 1 month 💪

[@masonictrucker8031]

No ethical Dr is prescribing 500mg a week of Testosterone, NO ONE!

[@cristobal.palmero4919]

500mg? That juicing

[@niltomega2978]

I have to BS on your doctor prescribing that much.

[@jimmybaldwin737]

Got a question. Or some advice. I’m 35. Been training mma for about 4 years. But always done boxing and stuff at a young age. The last 6 months I’ve been really consistent with training. Doing 2 sessions a day sometimes. But I think I feel run down sometimes and it’s just to much. And I keep getting fevers and I’ll sometimes. Dunno if it’s cause I’m over training. Cause I’ve never been sick a lot until recently. And I think it’s possibly my age and training a lot. Should I take trt to get to the next level. So I can train more. And get better recovery

[@pault2178]

No sir...you dont need it. You need to recuperate more. What you are dealing with sounds like more of a diet/ hydration issue. You train hard core. People who generally need trt cant even have a decent life. No energy, no drive and no motivation. You dont fall under the category my frd. Best of luck

[@jimmybaldwin737]

@@pault2178 thanks for the advice. Really appreciate it. I did do a blood test about 6 months ago. And everything came back fine. They said my testosterone was above the minimum. They just said increase my vitamin D intake. It was low on that. I have cleaned my diet up. But I do drink alcohol. sometimes probably 2 or 3 times a week. Which is definitely not good. But that’s not every week. That’s probably the most in a week. I think I’ve got a mild issue with my drinking. Realistically I’d say I’ve got 70% control of my alcohol consumption. There are moments where I can’t go more than 5 days without some. So I’m definitely gonna work on the issue of that. I know people who are worser. But I know that’s not the answer. But like you said. If I’m training a lot. Probably is dehydration. The thing is though. I do actually drink a lot of water. But maybe it’s the alcohol. And maybe I need to drink a bit more water without alcohol consumption

[@maruchannuudle657]

@@jimmybaldwin737 I came here to understand what this supplement even was. But saw your comment. Alcohol is absolutely a factor for recovery and performance. Try supplementing it with carbonated water and even drink it through the day. I used to drink beer after a workout becasue I loved the carbonation and felt the need to drink something and then I stopped and started tricking myself to drink sparkling water instead. Now I get the added hydration with the benefit while drinking a carbonated drink. Sounds lame but my gains in working out have increased and it’s helping me stay focused and hydrated. Alcohol has too many negatives even in moderation for my own goals. I hope this helps

[@jimmybaldwin737]

@@maruchannuudle657 thanks bro. Yeah that does help. Appreciate it. I’ll definitely give that a try. And yeah. So true. Alcohol does have so many negatives. There’s no benefit to it whatsoever. Just makes you hungover and dehydrated

[@gohanson8846]

You need to rest. Taking Trt can only do so much for you. Taking a few days off or a week or 2 will help your body a lot

[@squad5111]

Would TRT help type 2

[@sirgeoh]

Do a keto/carnivore diet and that will fix T2. Just eat meat and fat.

[@raone8134]

Diabetes ?

[@kaijisan1206]

when you have that music in the background its purely marketing and business and you should not take your medical advices from those kind of videos, the care is not about your health here its about your money

[@heatley1]

Most importantly get you blood check by a urologist every 3 months!!!

[@TryChillBalloo]

im not an expert at all but i heard that your body after TRT cant produce as much testosterone as before.

[@CODbea]

If you go on test replacement your body will stop producing on its own because you are providing exogenous horomones. So your pituitary won't send signal to testes essentially

[@TryChillBalloo]

@@CODbea yes true, i ment in the case one day you stop your TRT your body still dont produce testosterone of its own anymore... excuse my bad english please...

[@CODbea]

@@TryChillBalloo ok, in that case if you ever stop trt you can pct with a serm, and you could possibly produce some on your own but odds are you won't produce what you use to so its really only worth it if you are a competitive bodybuilder or are medically low testosterone

[@sp4msolo724]

If your body isn't making high levels what's the difference. Yiu got nothing to lose

[@patrickvanmeter2922]

@@sp4msolo724 I'm 80 and have gone off and on numerous times. The fact is I feel better with it. When I go off, I wait until my testicles get back to their original size and get on again. 6 weeks to no more than 2 months and I am good to go again. I don't feel as well when I am off but it is not as bad as many would want youi to think it is. What the hell, I'm 80.

[@Kid_Ikaris]

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence ~ Kermit the Frog

[@miguelberetta7887]

I'm only 30, had a few botched surgeries in the military which doesn't allow me to breathe well through my nose and haven't been the same ever since. My test came back low, my free test was in the 6 range. I'll be starting next week

[@narule2695]

Update,?

[@willneverdead7524]

Is the VA putting you on TRT or did you have to go through community care?

[@miguelberetta7887]

@Na Rule I had my 6th injection Tuesday, I THINK im starting to feel better. We're running labs to make sure my estrogen isn't elevated I've had some stressful events take place so that could be covering up the benefits

[@miguelberetta7887]

@@willneverdead7524 I went through self pay

[@tonyfontana8451]

I was on TRT for 15 years decided to quit this year. I started at 100mg a week went up to 200mg the last 10 years. 55 years old now, the risk is not worth the reward. My blood labs show dangerous Hematocrit/Hemoglobin levels. Taking an AI is a hormone balancing nightmare. No more red flushed face and bloated face and hands. Its not the end of the world. It took my body about 3 weeks to adjust. When I started TRT my test levels were 400, so did really need it, probably not.

[@Turtle-sz7sk]

Gotta give blood and go reallll Easy with AI like 1/4mg a week

[@HG77K]

Where did 200mg a week put your T level at on the reference normal range?

[@4funner66]

Oh man. So sad reading this, knowing the modern science. Let me guess- you were getting 1x 200mg injection every 2wks too, right? Hematocrit, RBC, hemoglobin are not of concern if platelet counts are normal. Zero association to clotting or strokes, so long as platelets are normal. Also, an AI is never needed on TRT dosages (arguably most any dose). Estrogen is extremely cardioprotective and helpful in general. AIs are poison and you will feel accordingly. In short, i am so sorry you had a crappy provider that is not in with the modern science on hormone replacement

[@4funner66]

@@AmericanGlassInc Spot on. This guy had a crappy provider and poorly managed protocol, turning him away from wanting to go further with TRT. This is how TRT gets such a bad rep. I feel sorry for him, because properly managed, he could be feeling excellent right now!

[@jjoseph6166]

How did you get your normal production to start again? Have you tested your levels since being off? Thinking about getting off after 3 years on. Curious did you take any post cycle therapy

[@qbconnect]

It's hard to take you serious with that Dennis the menace shirt on Doc

[@hanskazan7403]

this doc is def on some trt too

[@hippo-potamus]

I like this doc but he is being highly disingenuous saying its all benefits and no downsides. Everything has a negative. Wether that be infertility, elevated rbc, exacerbation of prostate issues, possible conversion to estrogen and development of gyno, to simple acne. You dont have to lie to sell the product. Everyone knows Testosterone is the fountain of youth hormone but we want to know the risks. To say there are none is bogus.

[@niltomega2978]

I 've been on TRT for 18 years and there are virtually no risks. Why would there be? You are simply replacing what your body no longer produces. The ONLY risk I'm aware of is a slight thickening of the blood that could affect SOME people

[@daystardaystardaystardayst1865]

This is not true. There are may good effects but also documented negatives. The scariest for myself is that it seems to signifcantly reduce life expectancy

[@nanobigboss5802]

Where is your evidence that it does? Just curious. I've seen and know plenty of people on it for years that are in their 60s and 70s

[@daystardaystardaystardayst1865]

@@nanobigboss5802 Have a quick google and you will see the studies. Higher testosterone in older men has been shown to be linked to shorter life span in numerous studies. The increased expenditure of energy is the alleged cause. 60s and 70s is not old. Even poor countries with high murder rates, no health care etc have average Life expectancies in their 70s.

[@nanobigboss5802]

@@daystardaystardaystardayst1865 we are not talking about "high" testosterone doses though. Only an amount that helps regulate low test. Low test is just as dangerous as high test. We are talking about trt in moderate doses. Let's face it. What doesn't reduce life expectancy these days. Most common addictive drug that negatively effects us is sugar. We all eat it

[@thomasjones3508]

@@nanobigboss5802 l love it when you ask someone to back up their claims and their response is to tell you to Google it. Lol. Meaning they are talking out of their ass.

[@mikaelsnake]

You can Google it, but this guy is not a good researcher. If you take trt and keep within the normal therapeutic range, you don't get side effects. The bad side effects are from abuse.

[@Jesusn1013]

This dude's got a clear biased opinion cmon on now guys, yall are better than this

[@KefashWhite]

I was hope for him to make reference to studies that lead him to his conclusion that it has no negative long term consequences.

[@patrickvanmeter2922]

@@KefashWhite Follow him on KZbin. He explains his claims almost daily. No one knows more about this.

[@thefinancedude4544]

28 and test is 166

[@niltomega2978]

It happens. May as well get on TRT

[@rajauzair95]

I'm living a depressed life , no energy , no life

[@Turnpost2552]

lol what???

[@erictheawesomest]

Look at Arnold, he's healthy. Personally I think it's because he did not go on all the extra stuff, all he had was test. But I don't know much about these things.

[@chadlington1]

Wrong bro, he did all the steroids. He's had countless surgeries and I believe even a heart attack, he is lucky to be alive, I don't TRT will do damage like that though, only steroid abuse and over-training.

[@sam9239]

@@chadlington1 Also not to forget that Arnold had amazing genetics that put him in the top % of men in the world at the time.

[@mikaelsnake]

Arnold was on at least 2 compounds including test. This is a joke dude. Test alone will not make you that big.

[@rockywaters9592]

Arnold also used Dianabol and Deca-Durabolin (as they all did back then) when bulking, and Primobolin when cutting, he's said this himself over the years.

[@SwoleTown]

that is not true, he was on multiple compounds and a lot of them.

[@alexvidzup9076]

Bad video, doesn't explain anything

[@willvinson5829]

TRT and hormone optimization channel is good info.

[@willvinson5829]

Did you see the link to the whole video -- just a clip

[@mizuslayer]

..wut

[@yassina-r6806]

Absolutely 💯 Bullish. Listen to every word.

[@em34ev3r]

Don’t even think about doing strenuous cardiovascular exercises while you’re on that shit. The risk of getting cardiac arrest is absolutely likely

[@alexl.4362]

Why

[@SwoleTown]

that is not true at all... do you care to articulate this?

[@bxsed]

this video reads like a snake oil salesman or the guy selling you sofas on the TV with fake testimonials