The Longest FBI Standoff in American History, explained.

[@elvis4296]

It’s also good to note how one woman came out after the negotiated promised her safety than she was charged with many crimes and sent to prison further bridging the gap for the negotiator as no one inside trusted them

[@VVVV___VVVV]

At this point I have no clue why anyone trust negotiators, surely they’d know that their only job is to get you outside and into either a cell or a sniper’s firing line

[@sashaversteeg3406]

@@VVVV___VVVV Some people are stupid

[@jiovek]

even if koresh was a bad person, the way the raid was handled was abysmal lol. how do you manage to only get 9 survivors out of 85 ppl, appalling

[@Elegant_Sausage]

Exactly

[@adampaugh9255]

IF?????

[@Purple_Sweater]

​@@adampaugh9255In this sense 'if' is not used in a questioning sense :)

[@agarlicsorbet6482]

How do you deal with religious extremists that won't listen to anything anyone but this self proclaimed "messiah"? These are Christian equivalent of taliban and should be rooted up before it festers even further. Oh wait. They are already festering. Because Americans with their bible thumping lunacy cried their hearts out for this Koresh person who effectively became martyr figure for sons of anarchy white supremo jesus freaks who cried jesus even harder since.

[@Bound2chaos2]

Least obvious psyop in american history the government clearly felt threatened by these people

[@typer2909]

KEY DETAIL THAT WAS MISSED: karesh tried to negotiate to get the children out hours before the building was completely burnt down, police denied this negotiation in fear they would use it as an “opening” to fire at them again (ridiculous claim)

[@DARKESTICEBURG]

koresh said he would release them, but it took A LOT of negotiation before he finally let them go. The didn't want to because he was afraid the gov would fire.

[@Blase1994]

Koresh was using them as shields, he knew if the women and children were released he would’ve been taken out. He was a coward

[@SRT797]

@@Blase1994people always explain it away as law enforcement being bad and all this government overreach and shit but they skipped past the fact this dude was about as terrible a human as one could be lmao he says GOD told him to change his mind when they were finally going to surrender……

[@kohnstantines]

@@Blase1994 exactly.

[@JohnSmith-yy3tc]

"We investigated ourselves and found that the people we were in a peaceful standoff with months opened fire on us out of nowhere, then lit themselves on fire killing almost everyone inside in one of the worst ways possible." Disgusting.

[@cringeandpunishment3140]

Also disgusting that you're defending a pedophile who intentionally set fire to the place, and the heaps of audio recordings that proved that the planned to set fire to the compound

[@typer2909]

@@cringeandpunishment3140i think you forgot that the atf set two sides of the building on fire before anybody inside could start a fire, and that this was proved in a federal court of law

[@citizenvulpes4562]

​@@cringeandpunishment3140 Sure buddy, and the government cares about your well being.

[@cringeandpunishment3140]

@@citizenvulpes4562 Did David Koresh marry children?

[@metaltrombone549]

@@cringeandpunishment3140 It's not about defending Koresh, it's about getting justice for the innocent people the government murdered.

[@trizmo4458]

shes back, when least expected

[@parapqa]

you might even say she’s, *unpredictable*

[@Oh2x]

⁠@@parapqa😮

[@enigmence]

Let’s not forget there’s also a brother who edits these too 😂

[@2coeur]

i've binge watched most of your videos today, they're so good! and thank you so much for including subtitles, as someone with apd i really appreciate it :>

[@Mankeyyeahhhhh]

Koresh was an awful evil person, who was a pedophile and deserved to rot in a cell. But the ATF’s handling of this entire situation was abhorrent. Not only did they murder more than 70 people including children, but they also ran their vehicles over the corpses of the Branch Davidians who had perished in the initial battle entirely on purpose. The ATF was never properly punished for their crimes, and basically got away Scott free. I highly suggest watching Wendigoon’s video on the subject, to anyone who’s interested in researching this matter further.

[@ennuiii]

You're clearly trying to fulfill a narrative here. Is highly disputed that they murdered more than 70 people, there's strong evidence that over 20 members of the davidians themselves were murdered by their own members before fire occurred. Stop trying to act like you are playing both sides when you're clearly more focused on pushing your nonsense

[@ennuiii]

Oh way of course you got your information from another KZbin video instead of court documents or news articles of which there are plenty that would have let you know what you are talking about is b*******, lazy people that try to pretend they know what they're talking about are seriously a scourge to society

[@explosion6768]

F THE ATF

[@Vandalgia]

I think people who are disgruntled by this event and blaming the ATF for the escalation, aren't in any way shifting Koresh's blame to them. Yes, Koresh is disgusting, dude's absolutely vile. But they also want some accountability about how the ATF handling the siege. Then again, this is a very hard topic to approach. What should they do in the case when the suspects are refusing to de-escalate the situation?

[@okamiexe1501]

Well for one, use real cops and not the ATF. The could have approached like normal people and came to the front door before busting it down and going "We have a warrant, we can do this!" But you're right, it's a hard topic to discuss, but there's a reason why everyone hates the ATF, even other agencies sometimes.

[@lonesomebeetroot3376]

I think the issue most people have including myself is that yes, Karesh was an absolute asshat, but they had innocent children BABIES even in there and the way they escalated everything and ultimately created this situation where so many children died is absolutely abhorrent. If he was in there himself being an asshat sure do whatever but the way they handled it knowing very young lives were at stake is just terrible.

[@codebreaker1o119]

@@okamiexe1501 The ATF is a hammer to smash any force. Someone decided to use that hammer. I would say whoever the one responsible that authorized the ATF to move was to blame.

[@tulstra]

@@lonesomebeetroot3376Koresh was molesting those innocent babies

[@KyrieFortune]

Koresh and the Branch Davidians were the ones trying to negotiate, over and over, hell the whole siege happened because the ATF claimed he was aggressive and didn't want to be searched, when he was the one who invited authorities to search the compound and see the weapons were all legal and detained legally (they had a gun shop ffs). The ATF and the FBI are to blame for the start and end of the siege, no buts. Koresh was a terrible man on other accounts, but the siege was not one of them.

[@thatonechannel1937]

Strange compliment but your voice is the perfect volume, not loud enough to be heard from afar but loud enough to be heard perfectly up close so I can watch you without disturbing anyone else in my house.

[@GDQ]

It's a good day when you upload a new video. Unlike other crime story related youtubers, your content is easy to follow and informative at the same time ❤

[@kamikuratu]

such an underrated channel. keep up with the good work :) a true gem found on youtube

[@voiddcxi2630]

Your content is so informational and entertaining. Keep at it, I think you can get big

[@fireball__]

I remember watching a documentary about this on netflix and it was crazy to see all this chaos ensue. It sounded like it would come straight out of a movie

[@jaksibae]

what show was this

[@kellantheincredible13]

So happy to see another upload! Please keep going, the waits are worth it!

[@dabb3rdan]

“But what did you learn from that tape?” “I learned you are meanie and a liar” 🤣

[@kernowal]

Your videos are amazing, you're criminally underwatched

[@gavinrump8287]

this channel is phenomenal. you need more subscribers dude your videos are so well made

[@memph1ston]

Sure, David Koresh was gross, but he deserved to stand trial and then go to prison. Extrajudicially executing him and 70+ other people seems, uh, bad. Escalating situations poorly sure seems to be the ATF's specialty. See, Ruby Ridge. Good job presenting information in relatively unbiased fashion. I did laugh at Chuck holding up an AK though.

[@cjw8497]

Love these videos. I binged them all in one week when I found the channel.

[@raulherrera4792]

well they had an FFL they where licensed gun dealer they have the right to "stock pile" firearms that's why this raid was so controversial.

[@WingMaster562]

Also the burning and disturbing sounds blasted at night

[@thegreatestfallout1794]

They also didn't withdraw from city life entirely, they regularly went into town. This was a pretty mid-tier introduction to Wako

[@ohnaw223]

@@thegreatestfallout1794pretty sure very few were allowed to go into the city. Definitely Koresh as he knew what he was doing.

[@Elegant_Sausage]

​@@ohnaw223I don't think anybody is arguing that koresh was a bad guy with bad intentions...of course a cult leader won't let then all roam the town freely

[@immaterialboy6109]

One of the best true crime channels out there. Thanks for uploading

[@limbohat2592]

Love the see you guys putting the work in.

[@CyblissTV]

Like the video, but I would appreciate if u mentioned the fact that there was a lot of missing evidence. For example the door to the compound went missing, and was a crucial piece of evidence that wouldve made the agencies there look even more suspicous.

[@veck6325]

Thank you for the vid. I had forgotten I subscribed to you so seeing this video come up today got me excited to watch it. Thanks again for all your hard work.

[@wolftng359]

The way the alphabet agencies “handled” this situation was vile and got many lives including children cut short.

[@omniyashafik2552]

Alphabet agencies 🤣

[@otka2845]

I just found your channel and I’m obsessed.

[@paulveba6225]

This is quickly becoming my favorite channel on KZbin

[@sidrome4144]

Man i swear everytime i see your videos i have such a good time, the quality , the sounds everything makes it really good. Keep it up!

[@wt1370]

Liked and subscribed 👍. I just discovered your channel beginning with The People’s Temple. Now I’m in the process of binging your content. You have great attention to detail and your only agenda seems to be the truth. And you have a very pleasant voice. Thanks for the entertainment

[@keoladacalio]

Your story telling is so well done! Binged your vids and you got a new sub!

[@lz12408]

Omg new video I can’t wait to watch it !!! Btw I love ur narrating !!!

[@Smartass-pl3nx]

God the entire Waco incident is a whole cluster fuck. None of it was justifiable in my opinion. It all could have been avoided

[@REDDEVIL9269]

Watching this after the netflix documentary. It was a mess and could've ended peacefully and saving so many more

[@christiancleofas7451]

Only ATF could make a doomsday cult make look good

[@okamiexe1501]

I know I'd see this comment lmao. You're too right.

[@biggestboofer]

You gotta be messed up in the head to hold a pedophilic psycho on a podium as being a good person. But you did it anyway!

[@anjalihajari3876]

😂😂

[@earth-exxposed]

great freaking content!! please don't stop

[@Abigzerolol]

Honestly this incident would lead to the deadliest terror attack pre-9/11

[@gonzaloruizruiz4845]

Little known fact is that all of this inspired the Rainbow Six Siege map Oregon where you can see a very similar compound with elements that hint at the real life incident.

[@asy2598]

I just discovered your channel about an hour ago and your voice is veryyyy calming. +1 subscriber😆

[@explosion6768]

7:13 Ah yes the dog killers, who act like they protect and serve.

[@lufluf]

Its crazy understanding how that one "criminal minds" ep is basically made out of this story

[@luvylu1]

Which one?

[@here4nobody]

@@luvylu1season 4 ep 3 i believe

[@lufluf]

@@luvylu1 please excuse the late reply, I was only ever able to figure out which ep it was. It indeed is ep 3 of season 4, called "minimal loss". I can only recommend this epiosde, it was sooo goood and definitely portrayed what a cult is like very well!!

[@totalme302]

Your research is so upto mark.

[@m00nbutter7]

These videos are really well made 👍

[@simonekearns5290]

i love your video documentaries i just found u and started binge watching all ur stuff :3

[@sh4wty7]

Your channel is amazing

[@fenik798]

i found ur account today and i haven't stopped watching since

[@Sadako2602]

Judging by the comments dates, I think something in the algorithm changed and we all got her channel recommended, I'm glad it happened haha.

[@andrewhenderson5645]

Guns. Religion. Americans. A deadly combination we see all too often.

[@xeniagreenstein8283]

did this inspire a Criminal Minds episode? i swear they had one really similar to this story. except the siege lasted 2 days at most in the show

[@allie.nicole]

that’s what i was thinking too!

[@Nickmango22]

Yea the episode is called “minimal loss”

[@Anti-FreedomD.P.R.ofSouthKorea]

OMG NEW VIDEO ...AND IT'S ABOUT WACO OF ALL, LMAOOOO

[@jjrr3120]

Nice! Thanks for the upload 👍

[@jobey2656]

i think the map “oregon” in Rainbow Six Siege was based off this compound

[@BigBoiTurboslav]

I had the same thoughts as well, as soon as I saw the footage it looked way too familiar

[@pathfinderjan]

As a Seventh-day Adventist, this has been one of the core warnings given to us, especially young people, to not go on extreme beliefs like the Branch Davidians. Lots of these branch davidians are still present in the Philippines today and we are doing our best to protect my fellow youth who are the prime targets to get brainwashed by the false and extreme teachings of David Kuresh who outlived him.

[@aiseruchaan]

Still brainwashed. Regressive parts of society

[@ohnaw223]

Read the bible stop believing all this religious cult bullshit. Literally read the bible for yourself and stop listening to your cult leaders use your own brain ask for the holy spirit

[@Emma-dh7by]

I read a book from psychiatrist Dr Bruce D Perry who worked with the released children during the stand off. He spoke about being incredibly frustrated with the way the ATF and FBI handled things. What is interesting though is that the children under his care spoke repeatedly about a massive fire that was going to occur and send all the Branch Davidians to heaven

[@br7382]

this channel is awesome

[@rocketGimbal]

I was just binging all the old stuff today, wondering when yall would be back…freaky timing

[@seoxbc]

another great video!

[@grandmaster8213]

How can we get back on good side. QUIT F'IN SHOOTING *sets building on fire.

[@smashyland]

Hey Unpredictable, I’m just currently binge watching you thankful to hell my great KZbin taste has blessed me with your channel suggestion ;) can you tell me what that beautiful piece of music is which is in your background at around 3:31

[@vince_unemployed]

She could be in par with Kento Bento and Lemmino as alternative

[@beaneske]

Anyone's recognize the LEMMINO music? It suits mystery/crime videos like these so well

[@ZackEvans71]

I suggest you do a video focusing on Todd Kohlhepp and all he has done.

[@brendan5260]

"escaped if they wanted to but waited too long"? thats their takeaway? they begin an invasion, fail because the enemy was to resilient, and they just gas the place, throw their hands in the air and go "whatever~ UwU"

[@kboombite]

Love the video! Just a small comment of mone is the repeated noises of clicking and bleeping made the video quite fistrating to watch, i think its just a me problem thou

[@SS-ex5on]

Play stupid games win stupid prizes ......LOL

[@truco1310]

Love your voice

[@tomtanuki8332]

Better than the Netflix documentary

[@MisatoBestWoman]

*Never forget WACO and Ruby Ridge!*

[@Johnny.vincent.mancini]

goatted channel, watched all your videos

[@ThinSlicedBread]

David was not a good person what so ever. Still the ATF are disgusting for ignoring negotiations and raiding an area that was legally manufacturing and selling weapons

[@Dripxo]

i finally understand "i blow spots like waco texas" from Wu-Tang Clan's "Bring Da Ruckus"

[@tasha1022]

Love listening to this before I move cross country for the first time right next to Waco 😊

[@Chicken_burger97]

The map Oregon from rainbow six siege was heavily inspired by this siege having the same exact layout

[@primekrunkergamer188]

I thought it was obvious you never fire back if the SWAT team or FBI raids you no matter what. Its really their fault for firing back

[@HarryBallsack69]

Stupid ll

[@augusts.journal]

Wasn't this an episode of criminal minds? This story sounds very familiar and idk where i heard it

[@Bound2chaos2]

why do so many tragedies happen in february?

[@_yuno_gasai]

this all started to sound really familiar untill i realized that this is what farcry 5 was based off of

[@pierre4145]

22:30 this is one of the most convincing pro-koresh bits for me. If you can't pronounce his name right, clearly you don't actually give a shit about him. what they're actually scared of is government resistance.

[@everetti8943]

I totally think that David Koresh was a disgusting pèdòphile. Does that mean he had to be burned and all the children be killed too? No.

[@viridian.vertigo]

I couldn't give less of a shit about him. Dude was a cult leader who married children. BUT the fact that the ATF handled the situation even worse than a cult leader is fucking insane to me.

[@biggestboofer]

Imagine championing a pedophilic psychopath who thinks he is God as your peal example of "government bad"

[@MsDisneylandlover]

I also deal with that disability and i didn't learn of it until 2006. I should had been in speacil education..

[@viridian.vertigo]

This is like a criminal minds episode holy shit

[@quietrioter]

Not long after Waco, about a few hours, there was another stand off between a man who owned a homestead, John Joe Gray, and the local sheriff. The stand off happened because the Gray had an illegal firearm, and bit a cop when he tried to take it. Unlike Waco, still fresh in everyones mind, the police just stood by and watched. After 15 years, the DA just said "fuck it, all charges dropped" and the stand off ended. Until the IRS came in and said this guy hasnt paid taxes in 12 years, and we want our money. Gray just went "I'll fuckin do it again" and the sheriff was just like "nope". Gray died a free man, not owing anything to the IRS.

[@ashwolftheva2891]

Every time I hear Waco I just think of South Park. “We’re gonna bag this cult just like Waco!” “But you totally fucked up waco!”

[@SaintGhost0794]

ABOLISH THE ATF!!!

[@andu8000]

this post was unpredictable

[@chadgriffith8104]

Idc anyone who thinks it’s okay to have more than one wife is crazy

[@thelilbrans]

Keep this up, you'll be at Lemmino status....

[@MsDisneylandlover]

My grandmother is from that town

[@ferstig235]

Would not have happened if they recruit rushed with shields

[@sparkierss3189]

There is always a worry of using children as hostages

[@flmefox3616]

Love the e video but my ear started to hurt from the constant clicking

[@Newdivide]

The incident led Timothy Mcveigh to bomb the Alfred P. Murray building in Oklahoma City, OK

[@tobiCS_]

LEMMiNO but true crime. The best combination ever.

[@kylem6165]

I remember watching the docudrama on this until the sun rose

[@Sk8rboy420]

Didn’t Koresh seduce a granny for the keys to the castle? Best part!

[@tcswag801]

This was a complete mess , ATF is still a joke , coming from an Army Vet with multi combat tours in Iraq\Afghanistan these were American's women and children .

[@ZxggyYT]

im a seven day Adventist and ive never heard about this story

[@fiyahlinx8900]

Isn’t this what the rainbow six siege map organ is based off of

[@Meowface.]

Several people who tried to escape the fire were shot as they came through the doorway Feds sniped them as they tried to flee That detail really stuck with me

[@jcdiaz4062]

Chuck Schumer has been in office that long?

[@Kai_Peters]

9:09 "The ATF had fired the first shots, only aiming to kill Koresh's dogs" Sounds like the ATF, alright

[@thuhuong8838]

Cant believe this event fuel the Oklahoma Bombing in the future

[@slowmovingtrains]

9 out of 85 is fucking crazy what???

[@ghosti1933]

criminal minds season 4 episode 3 provides a pretty good example of the situation but some variables are changed. def recommend for a visual tho