"The loot buff was sorely needed" - Mini Podcast with

[@thefrayedends]

I'm planning to just slowly play through the three acts on each character, I'll do endgame whenever I get a runaway fun character.

[@csenky]

I was thinking going simultaniously act by act with 3-4 different characters, so I can always share level-appropriate loot, but I'm already in mid-act3 with my first one, so probably gonna do it your way as well, beside getting to know/feel the classes it also prevents getting gutted by patches.

[@CycloneSP]

"where my opinions too triggering?" well, no, actually, cuz triggers just got nerfed! :P

[@keldon1137]

Also whats wild with uniques was Jonathan saying how much they try to make every unique - unique - worth building around. Theres plethora of uniques that certainly have 0 potential building around them.

[@seanackley7210]

I think with weapons specifically, it’s very hard for a unique weapon to compete with a +6 staff and 100% spell damage or a crazy phys weapon.

[@binhvan4893]

​@@seanackley7210no shit, like no unqiue can even compare to a +3 skill gem weapon, let alone a +6.

[@TreesPlease42]

Pareto distribution, most uniques will be trash, but maybe 5% will be build defining. They need the trash to make the powerful uniques feel even better.

[@snrlrocky]

@@TreesPlease42 I'm sorry man but I gotta disagree. In a game like PoE 2, you might get a unique once an hour during the campaign. I'm being extremely conservative, because I personally have only found...1...in almost 30 hours. And it wasn't even remotely close to being as good as the lvl 19 quarterstaff I found in Act 2. If that's the usual cadence to expect, then a lot of new players will just quit if they never get a good enough drop and can't reasonably farm enough currency to buy half decent gear. For an OG that might be fine, business as usual. But no meaningful progression for HOURS for a newbie is a death sentence. You need to at least give them the tools to buy or create something worth having once every few hours or they burn out and give up.

[@Alias_Fakename]

Every unique feels like it could have two more mods on them and be fine.

[@nuarBlack]

Respec just needs a gold cost cap. Like it maxes out at 25 to 50% of your nodes or you can buy a respec book for a decent amount that let's you do all your nodes and keep individual nodes the same cost as is.

[@SirRogro]

12:20 well most of people dont have "few hours" to farm only for respec of brocken character, even wors when its the only character you have. Also did not GGG said that travel nodes can change attribute for half of price? Its full price right now.

[@mdashrafuzzamansunny2145]

Well Poe is not meant to be played only 1 or 2 hours a day. If you can play the game all day then just quit

[@thatepicwizardguy]

it's fucking horrible. needs to be way way cheaper

[@wolfpox]

You literally paid to play a beta with only half the content, and you are mad that you might have to make a second character and wanted everything to be perfect with a single build?

[@philosophicallybroke8873]

Right now, I find it more compelling to try different builds than do maps. I found maps incredibly frustrating.

[@tehTyrant]

ya maps are too highly punishing, you lose all the buffs from the towers, you lose the map, you lose the xp, you lose the loot (if on the map).

[@kurre5644]

im doing t15/16 maps having a blast. Love the maps and the new atlas, much prefer it to poe 1

[@yournamethere123]

Maps are more geared to test your defenses rather than your offensive power. Once you get near the end of act 5 (act 2 cruel) I’d focus on getting defensive passive nodes and focusing on getting max life and evasion/energy shield mods on your gear. I have 1.2k life 900 energy shield and about 60% evasion and almost no armor at the moment on my monk that just hit maps, and while it’s tough, it’s doable.

[@philosophicallybroke8873]

​@yournamethere123 Yeah, I've no problem in them. I just don't enjoy doing them right now.

[@Alias_Fakename]

@@kurre5644 Which of the 3-4 valid builds are you playing?

[@sombrego2260]

I really hope they make a feature similar to last epoch when it comes to ssf gameplay. I hate trading so much but without trading you're so much weaker it's like you're playing an entirely different game.

[@NotSoFast71]

I wish they would make trading an integral part of the game. Needing an outside website to find available items and then having to join a party and physically go to the other character is archaic. Hell, even WoW had a functional auction house 20 years ago. I bet 3/4 of the PoE2 players don’t even know about trading in the game. Even if they did, unless you play the game as your job or as if it were, you don’t have the currencies to buy much or anything at all in the first place.

[@Schwaka]

@@NotSoFast71 Honestly the currency exchange plus PoE2 changes are 2 huge steps towards that. I rarely played PoE1 because I hated trading, but during boat league I bought a high lvl base 6 socket chest, then used the currency exchange to craft everything else myself, and I was able to do T16 maps pretty easily. I'd definitely like to see the game balanced less around trading, and I just got to act 3 in PoE2, but we'll see how it feels.

[@soulstealer5625]

I still think the people on the poe forums are trolling or legit psychopaths for thinking the loot change ruined the game and should revert.

[@GeraldHarnack-x4t]

Dude. What loot change? You can't even tell.

[@HDGaminTutorials]

Unqiues are terrible tho they need reworked the only good one so far is the spirit one that gives you 100 spirit for early game haven't found a single good unqiue since. I also don't like skills being attached to weapons

[@delayeedbms]

ive gotten like 10 uniques. all useless dogwater except for a ring that has has 25% chance Intimidate debuff on it that i dont think even works lmao

[@antonioandrademusic]

You can ABSOLUTELY tell

[@isnanesavant]

The corpse conserving wand is also very good ​@@HDGaminTutorials

[@unixtreme]

3:55 that's going to age well within the video.

[@VandersBrews]

The format is great, always nice to hear some discussion

[@ericconrad8854]

glad they talked about the monkey, easy movement set in theory but sware it killed me more than any other boss in normal and cruel.

[@MrBuns-yi2hk]

I think they should give players a free respec token when they do big nerfs. So you can use it if you want, but you also are not forced to use it.

[@TreesPlease42]

this is the way

[@nikp3516]

Kripp in this discussion vs his review seem like two different people

[@EveryNova]

Why though? I've seen his review. Overall rather sceptical, not excited and complaining about stuff. Same energy in this video if you ask me.

[@bdgandalfow2776]

@@EveryNova rather sceptical, not excited and complaining about stuff thats his only take on every thing dudes lame tbh

[@TreesPlease42]

@@bdgandalfow2776 more like stoic wise sage

[@Alias_Fakename]

@@bdgandalfow2776 You say that like there isn't a mountain of things to complain about. The only thing they really nailed was the campaign bosses so far.

[@mattdrifts]

If you think there's a shit load that needs changed then sorry to burst ya bubble but there's a game for you already. It's called poe1.....poe2 is different and many poe1 players won't like it but it will be the bigger game

[@ShaddyzZz]

Listened to this while doing the mid part of act 3 on cruel, i found 2 GCPs. I found 2 total before that, so now i have a 20% qual main skill. NICE.

[@Scheckler27]

I think having to wait till lvl 50 + for gems I need is ruining it and it takes forever to level up. No currency to craft.

[@mortiferozgaming2281]

I just ding 50 on my monk, I have skill gems to spare, I’ve even created random ones to experiment, and I have crafted most of my gear, I drop exalts from time to time, I have some alchemy orbs, etc, would like to have more but I’ve had enough to have a good and strong build, so idk what you are talking about, you can disenchant? Or just buy shit for gold if your drops are bad.

[@Scheckler27]

@@mortiferozgaming2281 I play all the other arpg's and have since diablo one so I'm used to and want to craft and POE 2 is supposed to more about crafting the items you buy at a vender, but there isnt enough regals and exalts to do so. Just ask Zizaran or Kripp if they agree before you think I don't know what I'm talking about..I disenchant way too much , I have lots of trans and augs but never enough regal and exalt and cant get enough socketed or rare gear to disenchant for em.

[@veraciousreasoning863]

thats not a thing. If your playing monk letme know I got a fuck ton of them.

[@raechu_01210]

Really enjoying these FarmCasts with Zizaran!

[@ExiledVessel]

I fear when they add the other weapons/classes/ascendancies that they're gonna have to buff everything they're nerfing and then nerf unreleased stuff and then we're just left with an everything makes zero sense again moment.

[@HDGaminTutorials]

They shouldn't buff anything things need to be nerfed some builds auto-play themselves which should be fine for campaign not endgame tho.

[@TreesPlease42]

balance will be a moving target until official release

[@TreesPlease42]

loving the conversational nature of these minicasts

[@HawooAwoo]

For me, the more you go into endgame the less interactive combat becomes and the more spammy it becomes. It starts feeling like PoE1 but bad.

[@ylightloa]

That’s exactly when the game gets fun

[@wolfpox]

It's almost like half of the skills and content are missing...

[@thornburg9170]

Definitely enjoying these. Would love to hear you talk to some of the SC boys, like Tuna, Lolcohol, Grimro, etc.

[@psiblades2002]

Love the chill farm talk format. I'm also farming while listening :)

[@wolvie90]

I can't believe I'm saying this but I want the Last Epoch style of "trade or extra loot" choice in PoE2. Trade is the bane of PoE1 and the absolute root of all issues in that game and it's gonna be the same in PoE2. Also how can anyone say this "crafting" system is any good? It's glorified gambling with extra steps, zero player input just pure slam and pray. I guess it's as Chris always intended...

[@tomtomkowski7653]

Chris has some very bad ideas. This outside-game trading system is because of him. This tragic crafting system is because of him. Tragic trials, map system, and endgame mechanics are also on him. Looks like this guy is out of touch with reality the same as D4 devs but in the opposite direction.

[@lvh5981]

The game gets to be way easier and more accessible now. You can beat end game bosses with bad gear in every slot in a way that is barely possible in poe1. I do wish greater essences and chaos orbs were way more accessible, but idk if I want crafting to be that much more than it is rn tbh

[@wolvie90]

@@lvh5981 Is that a problem with the game or a specific busted build that will likely be deleted soon?

[@Mulukkis]

I refuse to trade a single item in any arpg. It ruins the whole point of the game for me. LE does this very well (even though the amount of items is too much). Crafting in LE is also amazing.

[@wolvie90]

@@Mulukkis LE has a LOT of problems, but the whole prophecy system is very well done.

[@pawzom2564]

For respec I think they should steal from last epoch. I dont quite remember how it works since it has been a while since I played it but I remember really liking it. I think each point had a different cost with the very first being the cheapest and the very last being the most expensive? I actually liked the way you could get surrounded and trapped because being outnumbered, surrounded and getting hit from all angles without a way to deal with it should be dangerous. What they messed up with was not giving us a way early on to deal with it. Skills like blink and pushback only appear much later. They should make respawn timer individual but increase the timer by 2 or 3 times to compensate which would make Skeletal Clerics more valuable. For arsenists who have backpacks of explosives I would love to see their active ability changed to one that just makes them run to target location and blow themselves up in a big explosion. For Convocation I think they should steal from Last Epoch yet again. The Skeletal Mages there have nodes that teleports the player(dont copy that) but makes it so the minions get teleported alongside it. They should add a new minion named Skeletal Summoner that has 2 skills. One it uses on its own and one you activate. The one it uses on its own is a teleport that takes it right next to you. It will use this if you get more than 5m away from it or if it ends up outside of the screen somehow instead of it despawning. The active ability it has that you need to activate would be a summon ability that functions just like convocation but it summons minions around it instead of around you though since it will always be close to you that is more or less the same. They should keep movement skills to a minimum. Not because they arent fun but because they just feel mandatory and when something gets like that the game must be balanced around it. I would actually prefer it if they removed movement speed from boots and instead make it so it gives damage reduction towards ground effects.

[@TheFrontiersmanBulds]

I enjoy these talks! Thumbs up

[@Kim_Lund]

This format is great. So easy to listen to while playing since it by necessity has a lower pace. With full on podcasts I often loose the thread and either have to rewind or I just skip to something else.

[@SirRogro]

Problem with removing alt orbs is that now instead of few stacks of 20 obs you need to stockpile shitload of bases. And not everyone bought 100+ stash tabs during their first league. And imagine buying bases 1 by 1 from players? Must be awesome expirience.

[@theStamax]

Funny thing is... of all triggers freeze was probably the least affected and it was just brought down to reasonable levels (perhaps a bit too much though). Meanwhile Shock, Ignite (as in not the bs ignite, but real ignites) and coc got wrecked way harder by this change, because they already generated way less energy before (it's not 10 times as fast to crit an enemy for example as it is to freeze one). And ironically. Triggers like Coc got stronger on bosses for some reason where they already were probably too strong before.

[@enigmabis.]

LOVE this type of content

[@xWhackoJacko]

I'd rock SSF if it had loot incentives. But with how the gear acquisition is now, and the currency - people who cant no life need to be using trade. The carfting is also pretty lame. Yea sure you can meta craft way later, but for 99% of people its just slam and pray - and that doesn't feel great. I don't want to always be gambling.

[@qwark287]

I mean, no shit. Ssf has never been for people who don't have time, even deterministic crafting requires several hours of farming to hit specific mods.

[@JamieR]

Also, give a full reset during each act in campaign. Like Diablo 2 has a respec each campaign run. Could have it by end of each act. Just to let us experiment more up until maps. Giving players freedom to try various things before committing.

[@MrKililae]

Love these farm-talks

[@MannersPlease]

"were you checking vendors?" kill me now

[@sy-ky_buddy4603]

Yea that's a fucking stupid excuse. It's a ARPG and 90% of your loot should come from monsters, not vendor buying.

[@trippy325]

WOW! The OG Kripp in the house! Thanks for this one Ziz!

[@benkester1518]

love the format

[@Malao558]

It might be a good idea to offer deep respec discounts after patches that have hefty nerfs. I don't think you could be as specific as targeting the discounts to players who are using the skills due to how generic everything is designed to be, but this kind of thing is proven to be effective in card games and other such systems.

[@Schwaka]

They kinda ended up with the same outcome as alterations, it just takes way longer to do. I also think regals/exalts might still be too rare early (I'm level 35) if they want us to be constantly using them as you level, but If their intent is to upgrade once an act or so, then I think it's ok.

[@p4th0s_]

The amount of times I died to those purple things growing and exploding is aggravating. Alot of the death mechanics and explosive things are very hard to notice

[@PupDeLaTart]

Him mentioning lightning rod... Galvanic with chain + lightning rod is literally an electrocution blender. Did that on my gemling for my first character.

[@joelhodoborgas]

Awesome, kripp is a legend in the arpg.

[@ebossnz6838]

Not really

[@elenexxenele8443]

​@@ebossnz6838yes really. Name one person more notable than Kripp in arpg (maybe asmon but he doesn't focus arpg). I'll wait and check for your reply

[@GFClocked]

10 years ago. Brother hasn't bothered, been too busy farming that card game

[@ebossnz6838]

@@elenexxenele8443 asmon lol. Hes more wow. And if you gona bring him into it kripps not even close to him lol. Just from that I can see you are not worth the time here. Amazing lol

[@N3vangel]

@@ebossnz6838Joe Montana was a legend at one point too. Now he does Viagra commercials.

[@Pizzastealingninja]

Noooo that death at the end 💀 maybe GGG will be watching this for the feedback and notice the visibility issue with that foliage so they can fix it

[@Knights_of_the_Nine]

I def love this format. Keep doing this. I would say talk to Rax?

[@Alexia-ys6yx]

How is his SRS doing so much damage in early act 2? That was when the skill started losing a lot of damage for me.

[@Mumbleth]

They're really hesitant to say that there isn't really much of a crafting system

[@jarad9946]

there is a lot of crafting options if you are not braindead

[@K1m9857]

@@jarad9946 clearly the og poster is braindead Haha So sad and pathetic

[@Cwyan]

I think the complexity of the crafting is probably fine at the moment since it's early access, and there will probably be a lot added over time; my biggest issue is the lack of currency. It's so hard to craft because nothing drops. The increased drop rates don't even feel noticable to me.

[@Kronos74339]

​@jarad9946 Slam and pray isn't "Crafting" its a gacha system that forces me to farm white bases

[@Defrath]

There is, but it's much more on the fly and has barely any deterministic outcomes. However, remember that it's a base for the game in EA. PoE1 gained currency items over the development, and while I don't expect it to take nearly as long for them to add or change more in PoE2, it is important to remember that it's worth being careful with adding currency. One of the pitfalls of PoE is that you can never find a BiS item on the ground. They can only be crafted, and deterministic crafting is what drives that. While meta crafting is fun, I think they want to be patient with how they implement more advanced crafting.

[@Hankblue]

I just realised Kripp sounds exactly like Alex Honnold 🤔

[@sd5919]

Jonathan said they didn't know how the end game would scale. Maps will be inevitably unbalanced. I hope no one forms permanent negative opinions over this. The game is amazing for this genre.

[@sy-ky_buddy4603]

Yea it's EA and they have work to do... we just gotta keep giving in feedback

[@maxwellhill4754]

Some interesting choice in poe2 design but they are reinventing things that don't need to be. Gem exp as a drop is a bad mechanic

[@Steve_R418]

Kind of agree on trade feeling like a chore. Obviously you get great gear but it does start to take over the game imo.

[@trancer03]

We need full respecs including changing our ascendancy to the other one if needed. GGG is nerfbatting things people worked xx-xxx amount of hours on, it's the least they can do. And yeah you can farm a tiny bit of currency in tier 1 maps but its like 4 rare items per map and 1 ex every 2-3 maps.

[@mathew00]

I really enjoyed this chat :)

[@gatirenan]

i followed that totem war and now i cant do any content lewl its so bad

[@OSRSGuides]

Kripp comes off pretty abrasive here

[@Mumbleth]

He always farms during interviews and you can tell he's mostly focused on the game 😅

[@sy-ky_buddy4603]

He's gaming prob

[@mattdrifts]

His review bid was cringe. He's a poe1 edge lord. Didn't expect him to be into this too much skill is required not just brains/build knowledge

[@newfaith912]

Its so much fun clearing act 4 on my lvl 69 blood mage. Great game i can recommend.

[@Tsolus]

There is no reason for respecc costs. It being a gold sink is incredibly dumb, as it affects those who don't follow meta builds far more than those who do, and for those following meta builds usually have far more currency saved up to 'fix' a build. Anyone saying 'people would respecc between bosses'..... So? Who cares? Almost everyone won't do that, and those that DO want to do that already farm enough currency to do it NOW. This 'solution' does absolutely nothing other than add friction into the game. There isn't any other excuse other than a cathartic 'well, I had to suffer, so should everyone else' which is one of the worst, most toxic mindsets I've ever seen. The issue with POE2 being labeled as 'difficult' is that this thought process is frightening common. People are just outright nasty about it, and its wild. TLDR: There is no reason for respeccs to not be free. Any reason you give could be solved in a massive number of other ways that don't impact players in such a negative, arbitrary way. 'Game feel' is not a reason, as that is 100% related to 1) Subjective opinion and 2) The cathartic release of knowing others don't have it easy because you don't.

[@lucasdieter1939]

Agree with this. Let people experiment.

[@TreesPlease42]

I think a minor cost is good, but currently it's a major gold sink

[@thatepicwizardguy]

it's horrible as-is.

[@theperfectbeing]

It's extra stupid because defensive builds don't do well in ascension trials, so you basically ahve to go full glass cannon until you finish them and then respec later on when you want to start pushing maps.

[@FacelessOne01]

why does everyone lie about how poe1 respecs were handed out. they were only given if the passive tree istelf underwent changes

[@bphan11]

i they can make the game/world still feel brutal without many of the super CBT punishing systems. i lost 3 ultimatum because the game just like to crash in that area. so i have just given up on my last few ascendancy points for now, at least sanctum save the map-state. (im not saying i have an issue with that specifically but that just adds on top of the points of frustration that krip was mentioning.)

[@JamieR]

I hope they make ruthless a separate mode. I'm loving the game, but I dont have enough energy and focus due to health issues. So the insane difficulty makes it impossible for me to play more than 30-50 min in a go 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@rot1010]

not related but looking clean with the stache Ziz!

[@eklypzn]

I think no alts is a waste of player time cause fresh bases are the new alt.

[@frigidmontana6441]

It makes bases valuable, the only problem is trading is annoying. If they want to go this route, i would rather have a global market. Physical player to player trade is just too tedious if we are expected to do it for basic crafting.

[@StormhattGG]

Personally, i would like them to add alteration orbs but instead make it a bit like chance orb, in that that it has a chance to destroy the item on roll.

[@newvocabulary]

Just give us regular alterations... wtf.

[@StormhattGG]

@@newvocabulary Middleground dood, i wouldn't mind since scouring doesn't exists anyways though

[@vvav]

I guess the rest of us have to live with awful on-death effects because it supplies the RIP clips.

[@Stiermediagroup]

lol out of touch has entered the chat

[@jamesodwyer4181]

Bold suggestion: make respecs free. Permanently.

[@joehardwaree]

kripp needs to chill on the whole trade vs ssf thing. it’s completely obvious that trade is busted and that’s why there is an entirely separate ladder for it bro, give it a rest please.

[@rickfowler273]

Talk to Rax next. I want to hear you two talk.

[@Silentsea09]

Love you bro ❤

[@KontrolStyle]

LOL krip death 43:05

[@erikhendrickson59]

Sadly, POE2 has so many DEEP FLAWS in the very base of its design that the game is destined for failure. There's only a handful of viable endgame builds and thats very disappointing

[@lexsilencer9365]

💯 poe2 has too many fundamental flaws, balance is complete like 5% out of 100

[@theperfectbeing]

@@lexsilencer9365 People don't realize that a dodge based roll system doesn't mesh well with a gear dependent combat system. What will end up happening is all bosses in end game will be a collection of one shot abilities. The entire reason the dodge roll works in souls like games is it is 100% mitigation if you execute it properly, that's not the case with POE2. Also with drastically slowing character movement and not giving movement spells, there will be very little reactive play potential and it will punish melee even harder at end game. There's a reason why there are no melees on the ladder already.

[@Squats3]

maps are very frustrating. this isnt fun. i want to know why the poe devs think things that are punishing are fun.

[@D3adR0ck3r]

For me its just the on-death effects and volatiles that are bullshit. Those do not belong in a game where dying has so many penalties. They are the only things that have killed me other than a few misplays. Get them out of the game.

[@ryandugan9176]

Just want to throw this out there; essence drain contagion looks super solid with witch hunter because of decimate and cull and the corpse explosion. Might be worth a look ziz

[@CyrilFrantzen]

Did the campaign and then quit the game. The end game just feels so empty. No currency, no alterations, no scours, no fun. Also, I really disliked the trials. Sanctum is garbanzo and ultimatum was scaled so badly. Izaros lab was a hundred times better. Poe2 after the campaign made me miss PoE1.

[@mdashrafuzzamansunny2145]

Stop complaining and Quit the game then. No one wants you here anyways

[@lexsilencer9365]

Same for me... Made me appreciate poe1 so much more...

[@theperfectbeing]

Trials are the worst part by far, the honor system is the worst game mechanic I've ever seen in a game with melee specs.

[@1273dave]

i am still not seeing much loot

[@jaanuskrevald5456]

Fimally i got to start of chaos trial on Hardcore with invoker. Yeah..its tough RUTHLESS AND BEYOND cos mats scarce as well and little trades..but its challenging LOVE IT. HC SSF would be..timeconsuming..farming much, nn:(

[@Aeqstaw]

Yeah coming from poe1 is definitely stuck in my mental.

[@newvocabulary]

Log back into PoE1, it feels so much better. It's like night and day with how much better PoE1 is.

[@gozutheDJ]

@@newvocabulary im having much more fun in poe2

[@HDGaminTutorials]

It's early access dude.......calm down poe1 has 10+ years of development this game had 2 weeks.....

[@Brewnelley]

@@HDGaminTutorials yet they made the same mistakes they already fixed years ago in poe 1. Its not 2 weeks when its the same developer lol

[@jetsetradiobutcher3006]

Wondee who will doe next on the pod haha

[@IQof3.0]

what loot buff?

[@JimmyJames-om2uw]

Great content, really enjoying what both of you are putting out. Thanks

[@mattdrifts]

I feel like poe1 is the game for krip.

[@saiosonstower9439]

What’s a GCP?

[@vaxy6140]

@saiosonstower9439 gem cutters prism, give quality to gems which enhances power in a variety of ways. Think only found in maps or late atleast.

[@Piet-d1j]

@@vaxy6140 i have 3 and i only just got to act 1 cruel

[@vaxy6140]

@@Piet-d1j seems like the 500% boost did things then ^^

[@isnanesavant]

​@@vaxy6140 i had one in normal act 3, had it drop soon after my lesser jewelers

[@Athenianz]

46464 subs briefly at 22:28

[@daltonbressler2685]

Talk to empy next

[@theperfectbeing]

Why is no one talking about how awful the ascension trials are? Both of you guys are playing auto pilot minion builds. Go try to do even the beginning trials on a fresh warrior or melee monk with no gear. It's hands down the worst experience I've had in a game in the last decade, I can't believe the honor system ever made it past testing.

[@FryThighs]

I wish the game wasnt tied to a story mode it makes me not want to play multiple characters

[@Aarimous]

Love to hear from DM

[@HenryArevalo-dj4ze]

DAMN SCISSORS THAT MUSTACHE ACTUALLY LOOKS GREAT ON YOU BROTHER MAN BABY BOY😮😳😳

[@UIMcocodog]

new to the poe world. simply cant see any reason why a nerf to something shouldn't just = give litterally everyone that exists a token that resets everything for 0 cost(you cant only do people who have the thing that got nerfed, cuz people who were working towards it also got fucked). its EA we testing, i know they need to test respec costs at some point but now really dosnt seem to be the time. cant see why anyone should really cares about respec costs anyway? can anyone enlighten me as to why the poe comunity seems to think you should have to put in more than trivial work to deserve a respec? cuz from an outside pov it just sounds like a really really dumb discusion.... like, tell me the history behind why y'all think taking a point out should cost more than say, vendoring 1 white item or killing 2 mobs. im really curious?

[@SJCOFFIClAL]

I think that people are pricing very good gear exceptionally low right now because they don’t have awakened trade to tell them how much it costs

[@NotSoFast71]

Maybe it’s because most players don’t have the mats to trade and the fact that most players don’t even know how to trade in a new game.

[@binhvan4893]

Good ones that sell like 1 ex, yeah. But the reality is rarely does someone respond when you pm them to buy something, so nobody even bothers doing trading these days.

[@Funfrazier]

Kripp is completely out of touch, i think he forgets the average player cant play 12+ hours a day

[@nickh4354]

"Out of touch" by that you mean way ahead of casuals but experiencing the same exact stuff a casual would experience later on down the road?

[@nomoreweebs]

I swear we've done the same song and dance with every arpg that comes out what kripp experience at hour 60 is still the same your gonna experience at hour 60 .

[@NotSoFast71]

@@nomoreweebsYes, but his 60 hours is 4 days of real time. Most of what you call “casuals” (95%+ of the game’s user base) or “normal players” don’t want to wait several weeks or months to get to the “good stuff” in a game. KZbin and Twitch have made people think that if they aren’t playing 40+ hours a week that they are “filthy casuals” or somehow less important to the game developers.

[@nickl.3568]

His 60 hours if SSF is like most peoples’ 120 hours on normal, because he has such deep POE knowledge, and gameplay knowledge, that he can be much more efficient and get his build right the first time.

[@winton3737]

I think there’s actual a large group of players that grew up on Diablo 2, super Mario, and games that didn’t require instant gratification either. That just enjoy playing a game to play it. I think that customer hasn’t been thought about either. People that just want to enjoy the game for what it is. People expect gratification to come immediately when sometimes the struggle is a lot of the fun if the gameplay is right. I think the core of this game has nailed that. Add the other acts and maybe some more in-map side quests and you have a top top game imo

[@fuzzenuts771]

I'm not ssf but I haven't traded yet and i have insanely strong gear with wild pre and suffixes. Guess I have good rng?

[@tomtomkowski7653]

In general, as for now, this game is nowhere close to being finished. It's way more frustrating than fun and this is the main thing any game should do... give people fun. I don't like this reflex-checker spacebar-hitting simulator, especially in melee classes. I don't like this mapping system with only one attempt. I don't like trials. Visibility is worse than in PoE1 (the best example was with Kripp's death when you can't see what even killed you), not to mention the environment blocking the view. I can't imagine playing this game all over again every 3 months where so many good skills are locked behind character level and you have to struggle for the first 30 levels. Meaningful uniques? Yes... in their dreams. You also can't over-level to force your problems out because gems are locked behind area level. The crafting system is also a joke. This is more a gambler simulator than a crafting system. They should learn from LE how to make it properly when you are really crafting and not praying. I don't know... I'm kind of disappointed. It's not about the number of skills you are using or combos, but the general feeling of this game (at least for me) is just bad. I'm not having fun.

[@mickeydusk]

Only hope is that they wont abandon poe1 and it will keep getting resources.

[@tomriggs699]

100% agree tomtom, not having any fun. My 3 friends and I have already quit. This game is missing: A Power Fantasy, an awesome loot experience, and difficulty that scales with the campaign.

[@Mulukkis]

It has power fantasy but it's too hard to achieve. I was struggling so hard with Monk for a long time, until I got some luck and found a weapon that pretty much doubled my dmg. Since then ive just been blasting through The campaign. So it's just too much about luck.

[@rbroccoli_]

This was boring AF to listen to

[@WeDontBelieveYouNerds]

I surprisingly made it to 7mins I couldn't take anymore🤣

[@rbroccoli_]

@WeDontBelieveYouNerds Ziz wasn't even pay attention to the conversation. He asked "What level are you?" Like 3 times...

[@ostboob]

5:43 im out

[@newvocabulary]

Log into PoE2, stress and tedium. Log into PoE1, fun and blasting. Can't 'splain that.

[@TheMasterblah]

Yeah, I think if PoE 2 gives you stress you should play something else lol

[@newvocabulary]

@@TheMasterblah I'm literally just playing PoE1. I am playing something else. Why would I spend time being miserable?

[@idfkidfc5451]

Skill issue

[@ExireHG]

People like different things. I like PoE2 more than the original personally. Apparently, you can 'splain that.

[@newvocabulary]

@@ExireHG I can explain it. You're a tourist.

[@StormhattGG]

If ur watching this GGG, please s top nerfing my account..5 exalts in 55 hours played with 0 in my second act 1 run, you've had your fun!

[@thatsoulsguy3028]

I’ll be honest the mapping is awful compared to poe1, maps are way too big, XP loss AND losing the bonuses from the map feels terrible. Either one penalty or the other should exist not both. Also hunting down all rares for completion feels just as bad as Diablo 4 nm dungeons where the goal is to slay all monsters. I enjoyed maps much more when I could focus the boss, kill it, do my league mechanic then go to the next one

[@chiefrockacl2218]

make a build, build sucks, can't respec, leave game. idk why having free respecs it's like end of the world in poe. A lot of games are asking for our time, i don't want to look guides before playing.

[@nobody199-x4i]

ok bye

[@D3adR0ck3r]

Make a build, dont sell any items for gold, spent all of the gold you did have on gambling, have no gold for respec, quit game.

[@theperfectbeing]

It's bizarre really, it's the same bullshit excuses they had in World of warcraft with respec cots and dual spec. The second they changed it the game instantly became better for everyone. The game is already gated by gear, game knowlegde and player skills, allowing people to swap builds cheaply isn't going to impact anything. It's straight up artificial friction

[@MrAgentGFY]

wanted to be first, of bots got here first sadge

[@CheeseyHR]

Good try soldier

[@Jipooki]

You gotta move faster mate, that bot watched it 10 times already

[@TheMurderBird]

The bots have been compromised to a permanent end, your dream is now a reality 🎉

[@95MYTO]

I can hear loud slurping noises as they REALLY try not to talk bad about poe2

[@desaranfenrir9295]

Complains about respec costs then states he dropped 750k on gambling for a ring. Logic.

[@Elidan1012]

if you can't see the difference....

[@HDGaminTutorials]

You can't get that type of gold farming it would take days to make that money unless your trading or having your chat give you gold

[@vroomzoom4206]

You can trade gold lol

[@benscott633]

I would consider myself a very average player. Have maybe 5k hours in poe1. I'm a solid 60 hours in and I'm on act 5. I really enjoyed the first 3 acts but cruel is just not doing it for me. Its just taking to long now and every item I drop is an anti climax. I'm a titan and it's rough, there just aren't answers to the problems I have. I'm playing trade but haven't actually traded at all. Maybe I should just be trading instead of slamming? That just feels bad. I am going to keep grinding to maps, guess it'll be another 10 hours. No chance I level another character after this and to be honest I'm not sure I'll play leagues, it's just too much time investment to get to the fun part (min maxing). I'm sure ggg are going to fix this, hopefully before nobody plays the first league.

[@benscott633]

Maybe a compromise to start would be not to respawn all the monster in the humongous zones everytime you die. Killing and dying to the same monster over and over is boring.

[@NotSoFast71]

I wouldn’t call 8.5 hours a day for a week straight “average”. Not for anyone with a job, going to school, or any type of relationship going on. Even if you equate playing a video game to a regular job, you are into overtime every day on average. So that’s above average even as a job. Since 99% or more of gamers are not doing it as a job, 60 hours in a week is FAR above average”average”. You can’t compare yourself to these professional streamers and say you are “average” because you only play 80% as much. As a Twitch streamer.

[@benscott633]

@@NotSoFast71 I'm referring to average in terms of ability. I've played a lot this week. I can't keep playing this much. Lol

[@D3adR0ck3r]

@@benscott633 I mean if you are playing trade but treating it like ssf then you are doing this to yourself. Trade is literally meant for you to interact with other players. You dont have to go and buy everything to make your character stronger, but there are so many upgrades you can get for just 1 exalt. Just go buy a good weapon and 99% of your problems will be solved.

[@theperfectbeing]

@@benscott633 I got killed due to a lag spike in cruel right before titans grotto when I had just finished clearing the whole map. Whole zone respawned and a number of the mobs were mana drainers this time. Logged off immediately lol

[@majorshepard2]

Zizaran said he had no problems through the campaign while no character achieved endgame in HC. What a cope. Said steel is crying while he himself cried that much. No sense to get accustomed in the early days. Poe1 brain ftw

[@wengeance8962]

I agree with Kripp, respeccing feels expensive but not prohibitively. Just go out and farm items and vendor for gold

[@theperfectbeing]

How is that a good solution? If you brick a build and its not fun to play, then you have to farm for hours just to correct it so you can have fun again? No one wants to do that and it adds no value to the gaming experience. That's artificial friction

[@craneology]

You enjoy the free money. I hate the format.