The Luton Fire Part 3 - Summing Up.

[@MrLeadb1]

Mmmmmh.....I think I get it now......EV's and Hybrids are also 'safe and effective'.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Annnnnd comment pinned. Your education is complete, I hope this comment helps to educate others 👍👍😂🤡

[@thedearjohnblog]

Trust the 'science'.

[@roberthiggins6401]

​@GeoffBuysCars So in conclusion we can conclude that what we've concluded is inconclusive! No? Geoff I'm disappointed but I think it's conclusive that something nefarious is going on as the owners are being quiet and inconclusive.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

@@roberthiggins6401conclusively concluded 👍

[@oldbloke204]

Jibber jabber blah blah 5g?

[@FC-lf9oh]

Interesting question : have we ever seen in the past an inextinguishable car park fire of ice cars with 1200 or more burnt to the ground ? 🤔

[@gedofgont1006]

I don't think so.

[@fredericksaxton3991]

A 'Land Rover' caught fire at Liverpool several years ago, burnt out about 700 cars. If it was an EV that caught fire first I do not know.

[@xr6lad]

Bingo. Look through the comments and the cultists keep saying look at them before. And i challenge them - they’ve been fires in car parks but not car Parks on fire. Big difference

[@bods1]

Over the past........ Forever 😂

[@ralph007silver]

@xr6lad Fires that the Fire Brigade can get at and get under control before the whole Car Park goes up. The fact that EVs now exist means Fire Brigades have to 'stand off' because they don't know where EVs are in the Car Park.. so EVs are very much to blame.

[@Trevor_Austin]

The elephant in the room is that one car caused a modern £20 million car park to collapse and £30 million worth of cars were burnt/lost. Call me old fashioned…

[@doriangray6985]

You are old fashioned 😅

[@hypergolic8468]

I'll throw something else towards your well founded comment. We're the country that learnt about firestorms and saw how fast fire travels, by our experience of events 1939-1945. Post war there was a lot of effort to really work on fire prevention and suppression with that knowledge, but it went away from the 1970's onwards. Today if you want to see aggressive fire management* and building design for fire, you need to go to Switzerland, a non combatant in the second world war. *Oddly they don't do domestic smoke alarms in Switzerland however, that's another story.

[@oliverpolden]

But is the elephant ok?

[@gedofgont1006]

​@@doriangray6985But we still love ya!!❤

[@malcolmcurtis9786]

This bloke who’s car it was,his insurance company gonna love him.😂😂😂😂🇬🇧

[@mickeric4589]

Never had these issues when cars didn't have all the "Ecological" electronics, and we just had a baterry and simple electrics, with a well tuned Engine.

[@Jamessansome]

Nearly all car fires start with 12v electric issues, that then either ignite the fuel or plastic parts etc. Land Rovers have had recalls for fuel igniting as DPF and exhaust systems are located under fuel lines that are prone to leak......

[@roydavis5613]

@mickeric4589 A clean-burn one !!

[@vernongoodey5096]

My old Triumph Spitfire had all of 3 fuses, never caught fire. I could service it by lifting the bonnet and sitting on the front tyre to do all the work. Refil the gear box with oil by sitting in the drivers seat and there was the filler plug next to you. Sold it when unleaded petrol came in & made life difficult ( now there was another con). You know what I’m going to buy another. No tax, No MOT required!

[@Sennaxm71]

Much as I'd love to agree with you, as I honestly believe that EV's are the vehicle of Satan lol We used to have a few issues with fires back in the 80's when we were putting twin 45's on our Escorts, I had a few mates that had under bonnet fires back then, but we'd just grab the fire extinguisher, put it out, tape up the damage and limp it home or get a trailer if it was a bad fire, usually we'd get it out though, even though they weren't the sort of ridiculous prices they are now, we didn't want our car to go up in flames.

[@Sennaxm71]

@@vernongoodey5096 my first car was a 1974 Spitfire 1500TC, weren't they easy to work on eh lol I swapped mine for a mk1 Mexico at the time, wish I still had that.

[@FlyingFun.]

I feel so nice and warm and safe knowing my best interests are at the heart of the wonderful people in charge of everything.

[@dubtribe1176]

Some may die, but it's a sacrifice the wonderful people in charge of everything willing to make,

[@walter6155]

“Charge?”

[@MattBlack6]

I had to deliver a Tesla model S back to the dealer, here in Australia this Friday just gone. It had been parked, big rainstorm caused some flash flooding in the street with drains backed up and the car was sitting in floor deep water briefly. The owner said a small amount came into the footwell. He drove it about 20 kilometres to a nearby town and parked it. Next day it was completely unresponsive dead. He went home, 200km away, took the key, Tesla told him water had entered the main battery pack. I had to drag it on, with nylon skids under the back wheels. When I got to the dealers, the service reception lady asked me to put it in the workshop. I mentioned it was dead and had been wet, "oh that one" was the reply. It got put outside as far from anything else as possible. They were not happy to have it.

[@Rooonga]

You’d think the owner would come forward if it was just a diesel.

[@Matthew-cn9zo]

Suppose it depends on the size of the big brown envelope Range Rover had delivered to them to keep quiet?

[@kamilianos]

@@Matthew-cn9zo or death threats !

[@knoxieman]

its no secret there are problems with the diesel and hybrid variants and fires, i suspect you wouldnt want anyone to know if it were your car either@@Matthew-cn9zo

[@Invictus357]

Australian KZbinr Auto Expert, did a very good video on the Luton fire. And it shows a Land Rover Evoque burning intensely on one side, indicating that it was a diesel hybrid, which has form for “catching fire” and going into thermal runway.

[@FrankTimms-cs5hl]

Uncle Tony’s Garage in the US did a video about it yesterday. He also gave Geoff a mention towards the end. Maybe do a collaboration with him?

[@mossig]

I have a salvage yard. On occasions cars catch on fire. I always let them burn out. Never ever has a fuel tank exploded. Never ever has there been flames under the car like in this video. I have even been driving around with cars on fire on my fork lift(always back up, don't go forward). Only electric cars has plastic floors. Petrol and diesels has metal floors. It's not even hot under the car because the fire pulls in the cold air surrounding it. If the gas cap is on, most of the time the fuel is still left in the tank even when the car is totally burnt out. If you don't believe me ask a guy from a poor neighborhood to torch his car for an insurance claim(very common) and stand and watch. Don't forget your marshmallows!

[@MrKb1959]

2014 Range rover sport diesel, they don't make a hybred back then dip stick. .Do your home work .

[@WeeShoeyDugless]

​@@MrKb1959 How do you know what age the Range Rover is? Nobody, in the press or from officials, have said what year the car is. Oh, I get it, you picked up the registration off the internet and googled it😂😂😂🤡

[@MrKb1959]

@@WeeShoeyDugless The guy who owns it told the press recently . E10 EFL , you can see it on an early video 😀

[@WeeShoeyDugless]

​@@MrKb1959 Link to the press involved please.

[@pertwee9376]

@@MrKb1959 And you can clearly see in the video from the rear of the burning car that it could only have been a two digit number plate as Geoff said, three at most. But don't believe the evidence of your own lying eyes whatever you do.

[@simonv8279]

Polar bears have increased in numbers significantly over the last few years. An interesting little side note, you probably already know and not the least surprised about.. much love Geoff

[@willpeony5534]

I was in Iceland last week and one was pushing a dual buggy.

[@manofkent4472]

Shhhhhh! remember the Canadian professor who produced the figures didn't "get her contract renewed".

[@nigelliam153]

They stopped shooting them around 1974

[@GavinScrimgeour]

Look - it’s clearly down to me buying my Nissan Leaf. I don’t want to be called a “Hero”, but……… well actually I do want to be called a “Hero”. Either way you’re welcome 😂

[@keithslater7813]

Don't take this the wrong way but I don't think polar bears drive EV'S

[@DennisBell-b7x]

Top-Notch Service! I can't speak highly enough of EzyBook parking. The ease of booking, friendly service, and smooth transfers to the airport make it my preferred parking service. Plus, coming back to a well-maintained car is always a pleasant surprise. They gets a big thumbs up from me!

[@davidbarlow350]

Yeah,okay it was a "diesel" that started it. Do the authorities really think we're that stupid?

[@fugu4163]

They actually despises the people and thinks they are superior to everyone else.

[@davidwright-p9v]

Yes, they do.

[@cornholio1443]

Yes they do

[@stevem815]

IDK what the verdict is, but apparently there is a problem with the way some.diesels purge their particulate filters that can cause fires in some models. Not saying either way, just that it seems like it's not an impossibility.

[@sempereadem54eadem64]

@@stevem815yes it is. It does start like that trust me

[@cornholio1443]

Maybe it was a convenient way to take 1200 cars off the road and cause more problems flying at the same time maybe?

[@alridd7038]

I was thinking a great reason to start closure of Luton airport

[@annaforrest6148]

​@alridd7038 Yeh, because according to the government plan only three UK airports will stay open beyond 2030, Heathrow, Glasgow and Belfast, and these will close between 2030 and 2049, and only these will reopen once aviation has invented a zero emission method of flight!!!!! You couldn't make it up.😄

[@salnaturile8653]

​@@annaforrest6148- *excluding executive jets

[@barongoose1850]

Well then plan is by 2030 There's only going to be minimum three Airports in the UK .

[@markritchie9590]

Ah son, I think you got a point there!

[@keithhanson2783]

There are more Polar Bears today than there were in 1950!!

[@dennism7813]

But they don't drive EV's.

[@keithhanson2783]

Nowhere to charge them!@@dennism7813

[@tonysheerness2427]

How many in Luton Airport.

[@keithhanson2783]

I have it on good authority that there were no Polar bears in Luton airport so we cannot blame them on this occasion!@@tonysheerness2427

[@brianlopez8855]

but do they still drive diesels ?

[@chuckelsewhere]

Really enjoyed your summary of events, put a smile on my face despite the despair. Only observation is that video footage circulating of the front end of the vehicle in question, looks seriously fake - it's so easy these days to composite a fake on top of any original footage, something about the non fire side and wheel that looks too 'flat'

[@raywagner8016]

The front license plate, which can be read, also has more digits than the rear license plate. Weird.

[@stevenbass732]

Good point about the lack of thick black smoke. Never saw diesel burn relatively clean.

[@maszkalman3676]

Not even petrol burns whit clean white smoke and orange blazing flames

[@rosiecatbandit]

The car owner is probably staying quiet because they'd like to not think about how their insurance is going to screw them next time they renew.

[@kalpat5753]

As with any insurance company they always tell the insured never to admit liability. The owner of the vehicle would have been told this as the insurance company will realise not only will they have this claim but no doubt all other vehicle insurers will try to claim against them - massive bill they want to avoid if they can.

[@stephenhunter70]

@@kalpat5753 And the replacement cost of the car-park too!

[@salnaturile8653]

​@@kalpat5753' they'll be kicking this can down the road for as long as possible don't worry, I'd be amazed if this even gets resolved this decade tbh. They'll tie it up in as much legal red tape as is humanly possible.

[@richardhemingway6084]

..or had he been 'got at' and sworn to secrecy?

[@dougle03]

All motor policies have a 3rd party limit of liability that is usually set at between 1-5 million, so the vast majority of insurers of cars in that car park are going to have a very bad day. In reality, insurance underwriters are really just investment fund managers, many pension pots are invested in insurance companies, so we are all going to have a bad day financially, no one will escape the cost of this as it will all be clawed back from us, as always...@@kalpat5753

[@danielread1942]

That appears to be a thermal runaway. The lack of dark smoke and side flame out is how a battery fire appears visually. Just my opinion.

[@IanLewisCymru]

Would be nice if the owner came forward with his regn.number for scrutiny. ;)

[@larx4074]

Probz had a fistful thrust into his sweaties to stay schtumm....................

[@paulukjames7799]

@@larx4074 spot on

[@CropCircleCritic]

Bravo, Geoff. You just became a real journalist, and I mean that sincerely. You have more credibility that 99% of news media and I look forward to future videos. Edit: that ending was hilarious.

[@kennethausten]

The fire service do not lie. An electric car probably was the cause of the severe damage but not the start of it.

[@SalemikTUBE]

Regardless of whether or or not the initial car was an EV (it was) , the fire would have have soon found an EV and from then on the fire was unstoppable. 15 fire engines can put out quite a big fire.

[@stuartodell2828]

Range Rover don’t make an ev

[@williammeek4078]

Then how do you explain all the car park fires before EVs?

[@davep3969]

Really???? then please explain how car park fires have been happening for decades before EVs came along. Google Liverpool carpark fire images and you'll see concrete obliterated roof collapses, the lot, all without any EVs. Put that in your conspiracy theory pipe and smoke it you loon. You still think it was an EV that start it too.... LOL. Keep taking the pills and don't forget to sleep with that tin hat on or them facts might get in.

[@trevorpalin4731]

The fire brigade said so so it absolutely got to be true 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦‍♂️ I’ve been working with salvage a dismantling cars for 30 years. That was no diesel fire. You can throw a live match onto gallons of diesel and it will not burn! It will extinguish itself.

[@xr6lad]

@@williammeek4078there were lots of huge car park fires before? Where?

[@ianbrown9082]

An EV battery burns at 2000C, steel reinforced concrete melts at 1500-1650C...need I say more

[@knoxieman]

well that might be true but the car park was largely full of ICE cars, EV charging is only ground and floor one, easily compromised fuel tanks cause rivers of burning fuel to spread floor to floor, all cars have the capacity to cause fires

[@highdownmartin]

Temperature is important but you could hold an iron bar in a propane flame that was 2000 degrees C and it wouldn’t melt or buckle if it was large enough. It’s to do with Joules of energy and the hearth effects of a multi storey.

[@davelloyd-]

not according to chat-gpt: "Petrol/gasoline burns at temperatures around 495-540 degrees Celsius (923-1004 degrees Fahrenheit). Lithium-ion batteries can reach temperatures of around 500-600 degrees Celsius (932-1112 degrees Fahrenheit) during a thermal runaway event or fire. On the other hand, diesel burns at a relatively lower temperature compared to petrol at approximately 200-350 degrees Celsius (392-662 degrees Fahrenheit). This lower burning temperature is due to the different chemical composition and properties of diesel fuel." but also "Structural steel typically begins to lose strength and stiffness at temperatures above 400-600°C (752-1112°F). This is due to a phenomenon called thermal expansion and softening, where steel expands and becomes less rigid as it heats up. As the temperature continues to rise, steel can significantly lose its load-bearing capacity, leading to potential structural failure." SO in theory petrol cars could cause the collapse. difference being that a sprinkler system would likely prevent such a scenario, whilst with EV's it wouldn't.

[@highdownmartin]

@@davelloyd- a white hot flame is about 1500 c. So li ion batteries can produce that sort of temp as any KZbin video will show. 600 degrees is dull red / orange

[@jonathanbuzzard1376]

​@@highdownmartinindeed that is some basic A level physics. The twin towers collapsed with jet fuel burning because steel loses its structural strength well before it melts

[@alphatoomegabeyondthematri5166]

I shared a observation of what I witnessed on here about a EV fire and I was banned for 24 hours and I witnessed it.

[@jimsouthlondon7061]

Was your witness statement logged with the police ?

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

A Libtard eco-fascist got upset that you'd dare to say how dangerous they are. PS: I drive a hybrid. They are fine as the batteries are much smaller. It's the sheer size/power of EV batteries that create the problems. More voltage, more energy, and more heat.

[@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936]

I hope you learned your lesson!

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Me too. A fossil fire. A bus on the bridge before me. Thousands witnessed it. And i was banned for telling lies because fossils can not burn. There is nothing that can burn in fossil vehicles.

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

got a loicense for that observation mate?

[@onemanandhisdog]

Top work Geoff! After 2020, Its actually not surprising to me how so many people would try to cover up your findings! Keep up the good work, my guy❤

[@NothingByHalves]

They are currently installing a row of EV chargers along my road (a very worthy use of council/government funding, don't you think?) "for when residents make the transition to electric vehicles" whilst simultaneously taking out an airport car park and triggering the stop of sales by rumouring it to be started by an EV. All part of the general plan to bring travel to a standstill. I'm just wondering, if they're left, how long they would burn for - do you know? The chargers are a greater distance from the front of my flat than the motility vehicle disaster and I'm hoping to save a little on the heating bill this year. Out of curiosity, are there any cases where the free energy from EV chargers has been hacked? Asking for a friend 🙄 To the powers that be - if you want to keep slinging us lemons, expect us to work out how to turn it into lemonade, every time. Thanks Geoff - love the honesty in your posts, looking for the facts every time rather than following the drama for the sake of it. Keep it up. ☺🤗

[@SickPrid3]

4:16 look how the flames are spewing out from that car this is typical fire of a battery diesel does not shoot out flames to the sides

[@esm7708]

But plastic does

[@SickPrid3]

@@esm7708 no, it's does not plastic melts while burning, the flame goes up or down when the bits of plastic starts to drip off

[@williammeek4078]

@@SickPrid3except they didn’t make EVs for that model year. Sorry to burst your bubble, but reality is EVs are safer and this is a great example of why ICEVs are much more dangerous.

[@esm7708]

@@SickPrid3 you clearly didn't get up to the nonsense I got up to in my youth.

[@SickPrid3]

@@esm7708 find me one video showing automotive part made of plastic spewing flames to the side and I will say that EVs are safer than ICEs

[@stevebaker9709]

Diesel does not just burst into flames .that's a fact .it needs a lot of heat .even then it does not burn like this car did mainly in just one place to start with coming from where the battery would have been if it were an EV 😱😱😱😱

[@stuartodell2828]

It’s not an ev Range Rover don’t make ev’s

[@jonbrooks5585]

They make PHEV and MHEV@@stuartodell2828

[@sempereadem54eadem64]

@@stuartodell2828Hybrid

[@williammeek4078]

It was a diesel, not an EV. How do you explain all of the Range Rover fires over the last couple of years? So how do you explain the fact that ICEVs catch fire 30x more often than EVs. How do you explain all the car park fires before EVs?

[@davep3969]

Did you not watch his previous video on the subject which showed loads of diesel bursting into flames just like that?

[@bleachyberserko4191]

My brother's old diesel t4 briefly set on fire once, but that was due to haphazard diy electrical work from a previous owner. My brother was a bus electrician at the time, so swiftly noticed the smell and put it out before any major damage was done. He replaced everything to a professional standard, since it was his job. Sold it to me mate soon after, he still has it and it's never give him bother. Diesels are ace man.

[@mrD66M]

They are when well looked after and well worked, otherwise shit gets expensive

[@richardcarter1000]

I think we all know thermal runaway of lithium destroyed all those cars and car park. Looks like it started in a hybrid to me, but the EVangelist pile on has been pretty extraordinary. Anyway, we'll have more EV fires next week. Keep up the good work

[@newsoftheday420]

They can't keep a lid on all of them can they?

[@munkeh365]

the EVangelist pile on? All I've seen is hundreds of videos where people want to talk about a conspiracy, where it was a hybrid or even a fake EV. I'd say it's quite the opposite. People like yourself and Geoff are absolutely DESPERATE for this to be an EV.

[@dennisnorton3880]

Its a wonder YOUTube hasn't wiped this video yet, they don't like the truth some times. Brilliant piece. There was a film of an all electric Mclaren supercar fiercely burning away on a test drive in the Daily Mail the other day, can't find that film anymore.

[@jonboy9912]

It was a hot fire with white smoke and the ferocity makes me believe it was a hybrid and the fire was burning down not up! If it was a normal fire the smoke would be darker and it would be burning upwards!

[@Sp_75-76]

Well I saw the problem was exacerbated because of the lack of curtain walling to the sides allowing strong draughts to be formed

[@jozsefv.9838]

So, distinguishing a lithium battery fire from gasoline and diesel fires should be something that every firefighter would learn in school, in an ideal world. But I'm very pessimistic as a trained pharmacist and PhD scientist, because powerful interests with an agenda easily silenced and intimidated the minority of critically thinking healthcare professionals during the you-know-what, while the majority of unthinking healthcare professionals followed the "guidance" issued by corrupt government officials as so many lemmings. Healthcare professionals got a huge black eye because the majority turned out to be unthinking lemmings and/or cowards. Will firefighters show more of a backbone, than healthcare professionals?

[@knoxieman]

The fire started one floor down from the top and quickly engulfed the cars on the top floor, rivers of burning fuel from the petrol and diesel tanks would have caused the fire to spread through lowers floors as it ran down the concrete ramps and rain gulley's just as it did in the Liverpool echo fire, worth downloading that report you will learn something as to how fire spreads in multi storey car park fires.

[@Craig-wp3pz]

Land Rover, worse recall history than a deaf sheepdog 🐑 🐕 🔇

[@mrD66M]

Land Rovers are OK.. Range Rovers though 💩💩💩

[@darrenleejones3516]

What

[@AndyfromSurrey]

@@mrD66Msame car different badges. Both awfully unreliable cars bought purely to pose in. Much better cars out there.

[@allsearpw3829]

PARDON ,

[@AndyfromSurrey]

@@allsearpw3829 I said these cars are incredibly unreliable and there are far better cars available 😘

[@travist.7279]

There is one oddity that no one has mentioned. Supposedly, the fire started on the top level of the garage. In the videos of the fire, the top level appears to be open (no roof). Yet, that video of the Range Rover shows a ceiling overhead---as in, it is NOT on the top level! Can anyone explain this discrepancy? Or, did I just see things wrong?

[@jamesphimister3291]

Your correct, I think the top open floor was mentioned to prevent questions about sprinkler systems. The fire started on the open top deck so there is no sprinkler system to put it out.

[@knoxieman]

It was on level 3 the floor just below the top floor, this is in all the press reports about the fire, the fire spreads upwards quicker than down because that's physics.

[@NicholasStreet]

@@knoxiemanIt also spreads down due to waterfalls of burning fuel, that’s how the Liverpool car park fire spread. Of course, it doesn’t help if the floor collapses too though!

[@CDB8939]

@@nickbrown6457 Structural steel loses 50% of it's strength at 550 deg C for 30 to 60 minutes, A car fire burns at 1,000 deg C

[@alanwhite6293]

I always thought that fire travelled upwards??????????????? so many lies from the authorities over this

[@roddychristodoulou9111]

Last night on the news it said that a young man has been arrested in connection with the fire at Luton airport . As for 1500 cars destroyed in the fire I'm not surprised considering how tightly packed they are next to each other .

[@swedishpsychopath8795]

If it was a petrol or electric car isn't important. It is when a fire HAS started (regardless of cause) the problems start. It is almost impossible to put out the fire in the electric cars.

[@stevemawer848]

Not "almost impossible", just "impossible". We need technology to quench battery fires, but no-one seems to take that seriously, they just say more ICEVs than EVs catch fire which completely misses the point.

[@mcnelstv1880]

The footage from the front shows the car wasn't parked. It spontaneously combusted whilst being driven.

[@davep3969]

It started in the passenger footwell according to the guy that filmed the front view talking to the owner.

[@mostlybrokenbritishcars3220]

@@davep3969where did you see that?

[@no1baggiefan]

Its a known story that the guy driving it was just about to park when it started smoking, he used a fire extinguisher on it and it did nothing, so he ran off to find help.

[@KubuśpuchatekTVN]

5:20 It's a fake vid. Looks so bad that I blame AI for it.

[@knoxieman]

that video is fake look again the car in the real footage was parked up against a wall

[@robdavies68]

Strange place to park a car. I wonder if the owner noticed the fire and ran off!

[@TrevM0nkey]

if you watch the second video from the front, you can see two fire extinguishers... then if you watch the original video, you can make out one of the extinguishers to the right of it. but as it was there and not parked; the owner had to be somewhere and not already on a flight

[@paulppaulp7138]

My last car was a susuki grand vitara xl (bought new) Diesel, i had it 17 years, funny as the only thing i had to change as it died and did it's job was the battery. It had it's usual service every year. Yep after 15 years the battery died, just bought a new one, job done. I really feel for those that have died in any car situation and even one life is to many. Nobody is blaming ev owners or anyone for that matter, it's called common sense to those of us in our older years. We all are human and everyday, eat, work, sleep and live our life the best we can, then we all die, yes that's all of us but fek me why doesn't the world governments work together and make what we have a great place and it could be. All that is going on is not the way most of us were brought up, it's all going nowhere fast. Breaks my heart.

[@davidparker7920]

Then it should please you greatly that as EV sales increase the air we breathe is becoming cleaner. New car sales in Norway are now 90% BEV and BEV are now 30% of all cars on the road in Oslo. The air quality measurements in that city have improved greatly and as we get more dirty diesels and petrol cars off the road this trend will continue. EVs are not going away, the ICE is thankfully a dead technology staggering towards its extinction.

[@paulppaulp7138]

@@davidparker7920 Hi David, it would really please me if the whole world governments as one unit at the same time would create a world wide plan that everyone is happy about and over many many years not only now but long ago which would be in the now today be already in place, but sadly without that mindset as it is a world issue climate change as a whole is and will only be partly complete.

[@paul756uk2]

​@@paulppaulp7138The climate change scam is being brought to you by the very people that want to firm this one world government. The only thing I would say, us be very careful what you wish for because I can guarantee you it won't be anything like you think.

[@WeeShoeyDugless]

​@@davidparker7920 Not if he lives in the country he's not, where you have constant construction and maintenance going on building the unsightly wind farms, or living next door to a power station. Pixies dont produce electricity you know and not every country in the world has the advantages that Norway has to produce hydro-electricity.

[@ldnwholesale8552]

You have done well on that battery. I sell genile premium batteries with 3 year warranty that usually last 4 years. First cold snap then gets them.

[@hunchanchoc8418]

I'm looking yet again at the "first footage to emerge", at 4:16, and that sure looks more like an Evoque to me than a RR Sport. The Sport is a taller car. And yes, there is a ceiling over this floor. And yes, the registration number looks to be short in length, centred in the middle of the plate, with wide blank areas to either side. Also, did the Sport ever have taillights shaped like that? They look like an Evoque's to me, without doing a lot deeper research. This all lends more fishiness to to the time taken for the "front view footage" to appear, on a band-newly set-up social media account... VERY much chin rubbing going on...

[@swarfs]

I watch Geoff not for EV fire news but because he hates ALL new cars and is entertaining. It is good to hear from others with a sane mind.

[@trevorpalin4731]

the EV dream is rapidly burning itself out…..⚡️🚗🔥

[@williammeek4078]

They smog choked ICE fantasy you mean.

[@cleanhit777]

Shocking...

[@knoxieman]

Diesel Fire at the Liverpool Echo car park didnt harm sales of Diesel cars it was the EV LOL.

[@kevinashurst634]

yet they sell more and more around the world every day.

[@munkeh365]

@@kevinashurst634 Tesla Y is the best selling car in the world. EVs are selling more and more every month. Diesels are dead.

[@-EC002-]

The front and back number plates are completely different in those two videos. Some skulduggery going on there, methinks!

[@barrymcgrath5249]

I don't ever remember diesel burning hot enough to melt through steel re-enforced concrete 🤔

[@johnsutcliffe3209]

Mmm but supposedly kerosene did on sep 11 2001

[@CDB8939]

It is not the fuel, it is the vehicle components. plastic, foam rubber alloys etc, Also it was the structural steel frame that failed .

[@robertkubrick3738]

@@johnsutcliffe3209 Kerosene burns hotter, you know?

[@1234567marks]

I don’t recall anyone saying it did melt through reinforced concrete 🤔

[@1234567marks]

@@johnsutcliffe3209nobody other than silly conspiracy nuts believe that kerosene was supposed to have melted through reinforced concrete at 911, there a many reputable reports that explain exactly what happened at the twin towers, the trouble is that conspiracy theorists in the main lack the brain power either to look for those reports or if they actually manage to do so then they are simply not clever enough to understand the report, so instead they get their info from KZbin and mates in the pub and other such reputable sources 😂

[@harveywetdog]

You need to get yourself a battery light for filming in the evening - just make sure you charge it properly ⚡️🔥

[@dieseldragon6756]

He could consider using Alkaline batteries. Rechargeable Lithium batteries are also available, but putting them in cars doesn't seem like the wisest idea at the moment... 🔋🇬🇧🔥😉

[@stigmontgomery7901]

Really good and absorbing video Geoff, thanks. There is irony in using polar bears as a means of evaluating environmental impact as the polar bear population is very strong and not in decline.

[@johnjephcote7636]

Makes a change from using 'London buses' as an indicator!

[@mickking7364]

I'm not sure it matters what car started the fire, if a car park is half full of EVs any fire that engulfs them will not be able to be put out quickly.

[@kevinashurst634]

what like the liverpool fire in 2017 with pretty much no EVs. that carpark was totally destroyed

[@stevemawer848]

@@kevinashurst634 Scousers know what they're doing! 🙂

[@James-gf9jl]

I want to know the implication of heavy EVs parked on multi-storey car parks designed in the 70s for Cortinas.

[@Hitstirrer]

The diesel Range Rover that started the fire was heavier than almost all EVs. And there would be more Range Rovers and huge SUVs in there than EVs. 1500 liquid fuel cars would have an average 20 litres in their tanks. That's 30,000 litres of fuel to burn. More than a tanker load. Yet people worry about a few EVs in there. Why are they so desperate to blame an EV? There is an agenda at work here.

[@Jamessansome]

The Luton carpark was only a few years old. Doubt they based their structural calcs on a Ford Cortina. More than likely they based it on fat full sized SUV's then added a significant safety margin. That's how engineers usually work.....

[@dfromnw6604]

Because extinguishing a blazing EV battery is much more difficult than a fuel fire.

[@James-gf9jl]

@@Jamessansome I'm not suggesting that it was built in the 70s. But others are.

[@Sp_75-76]

You’re too late this has already been raised many times by those who don’t want to have to buy an EV

[@claywalker2938]

Do you think the Luton Airport are still charging Parking Charges for the cars left there 🤦‍♂🤷‍♂

[@TekAutomatica]

Still £6 drop off fee?

[@9256steven]

The question that needs to be asked is how many EVs or Hybrid EVs were in the car park fire. Would you get on a car ferry nowadays?

[@Trust_but_Verify]

Yes I would.

[@billgreen576]

Luton has always been a pretty grim place to fly from but I've always used off airport parking due to the price difference. Even more grim now. Meanwhile you can use a second hand EV battery to power your home, apparently. Good idea.

[@dougle03]

Just don't install it actually in your home... A shed at the very bottom of the garden would be my advice...

[@billcurrie4896]

The insurance company will know what kind of car and if it was EV the insurance companys will jack up EV insurances.

[@sladehelicoptersgaming3148]

No they won’t ! They will jack up everyone’s 😢😢

[@peterstevenson5418]

They already have done

[@soundseeker63]

@@sladehelicoptersgaming3148 Actually the've done both in a sense. Jacked up EVERYONES prices by at least 40% while jacking up EV premiums higher still and in some cases refusing to insure them entirely!

[@MartinHouston42]

It is not that important if an EV started it. That EVs were in the fire made it such a huge event.

[@knoxieman]

plastic fuel tanks are the main culprit for fires spreading quickly car to car, also rivers of burning fuel down the ramps and the rain gulleys in multi storey car parks spreads the fire

[@Jamessansome]

When fuel tanks melt the contents pours out and ignites spreading the fire to other vehicles. This was the conclusion of the Liverpool Echo carpark fire and why it spread so quickly. Would have been very few EV's in 2017 when that fire happened but very similar result. Unsurprisingly large volumes of flammable fuel make fires like this far worse!

[@sparkyUK]

Wrong. A lack of water suppression and tightly packed cars all with fuel was the major contributing aspect.

[@kevinashurst634]

no, it was the 10s of thousands of litres of diesel, petrol and the 180kg of plastic in pretty much every car in that fire.

[@MartinHouston42]

@@kevinashurst634 yes but firefighters know how to deal with such fires.

[@jo_clarke1960]

Perfectly sums things up the situation with newer/new &EV veg cars really. They all got a lot of problems which can happily be passed on to us in the name of "Progress". Great vid 👍

[@jamiefender6909]

I was so lucky that, with frost on my front windscreen, my car had a little ❄️symbol to tell me it was 2°c and frosty. Modern technology is so helpful in cars nowadays…

[@dieseldragon6756]

My bicycle has this technology, too! If I breathe out and it forms a cloud in the air, then I know it's icy enough to take care when braking! ❄🇬🇧😋

[@Willems378]

Geoff, I really enjoy the talks that you do. And that you try to explain those things with a opinion and laugh with it. Keep doing this.

[@anonnona8099]

@Willems378 > Geoff, I really enjoy the talks that you do. And that you try > to explain those things with a opinion and laugh with it. I'll fix that for you. You meant to write "Geoff, I really enjoy the talks that you do. And that you try to explain those things with a laughable opinion"

[@123jrh1]

when i first saw the pictures of the burning range rover my first thought was its ev or hybrid, (diesel dosent like to burn) the only reason i thought its ev or hybrid is because of where the fire is coming from, hibrid batteries on this make of car is under the passenger seat and the fire looks like its having a thermal runaway attack

[@IANREA]

Not withstanding the car insurance to cover these vehicles is astronomical and therefore who can afford them. Imagine if that vehicle wasn’t insured

[@doriangray6985]

Will those with only 3rd party insurance get paid?

[@esecallum]

tesla owner charged 17000 after tesla driven in rain damaged battery !!!! tesla cost 60000 plus another 17000 now. designed to make you POOR

[@WhiteDieselShed]

@@doriangray6985 How many insurers offer 3rd party only? You would probably struggle to get than and even 3rd party fire and theft can be more expensive than comprehensive insurance.

[@robinsattahip2376]

No one carries that amount of insurance on their car. If the owner of this diesel hybrid gets sued for hundreds of millions of pounds it will make people think twice about buying this trash.

[@alfieakaronaldog]

I thought the airports insurer was paying

[@raywagner8016]

Give any editing person an hour and they can have video footage showing whatever plate number they like. My feeling is that this is an absolutely blatant coverup and nobody in the EV world wants to be associated with their version of the Exxon Valdez. Interesting side note. This has never happened prior to the current push of EV's. Didn't burn any ships with them either.

[@Sp_75-76]

Look up the Liverpool arena fire 2017, also started by a Land Rover diesel. similar situations but more cars lost, the only difference between then and now is the government weren’t planning to ban sales of new ICE vehicles back then so there wasn’t an uproar about it

[@SimonReay-u8x]

The video is definitely a fake. If you pause it you can clearly see a glowing line around the car and fire extinguisher. This shows they were added on a computer.

[@JoeBloggs777]

@@SimonReay-u8x The video does have a very strrange look to it, the lighting, and looks like some kind of overlay somehow, weird!

[@raywagner8016]

@@SimonReay-u8x A bunch of extra digits were added to the front plate too.

[@CDB8939]

Have a read about a fir that obviously never happened in 2018 www.bafsa.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/bsk-pdf-manager/2018/12/Merseyside-FRS-Car-Park-Report.pdf

[@dominiquecharriere1285]

Bill Gates, Karl Schwab, Soros, Bezos, Suckerberg, Buffet all shouting "it was a diesel" and the free world answering "it was an EV". What is amazing is that most of the people want it to be an EV. This shows the great future EVs have!

[@bobkennard8863]

Can you imagine the insurance claim. What happened? My car caught fire. Were any other vehicles involved? Yes. How many? 1,200. Any other noticable damage. Yes. Describe in detail. Multi-story car park completely destroyed. Will this effect my no claim bonus?

[@chrisaris8756]

Well definitely a late model sport, so it could be a hybrid. I’ve been driving many many years, seen plenty of vehicle fires, but it is really odd that one is burning down the side - if it were a diesel leak it would have been under the bonnet - even though diesel is very hard to set fire to to. I suppose it COULD be something to do with a dpf, but I’ve never heard of one catching fire. I guess it’s possible but given there are thousands of poorly maintained diesel cars running round with blocked dpfs and they don’t seem to be spontaneously combusting. There’s a definite discrepancy in the number plates so those videos look iffy to me. All very suspicious. And as you say a simple diesel fire would not have the power to burn through reinforced concrete floors. You’d need something like a thermos lance, or perhaps a huge lithium battery! I’m sure the EV industry will happily stump up a lot of money to fog the issues and pass the blame onto other vehicles when they catch fire. They have invested huge sums in EVs which it turns out, no one is buying, so more adverse publicity has to be squashed. Did you hear the huge squeal of protest from Ford when Ritchie Whatsit announced the ( inevitable) postponement of the petrol/diesel ban? And they aren’t even leaders in battery powered cars, I mean who in their right mind would buy that repulsive Mustang abortion?

[@offshoretomorrow3346]

Burning fuel runs downhill - a whole deck of burning cars could well collapse the floor above.

[@chrisaris8756]

Eventually. That’s why they build bomb proof shelters out of concrete. Sure enough heat will do it but the thermal impact from lithium batteries is way more destructive.

[@GaryBox]

Even if it's DPF related it's still an example of climate policy causing more harm than good. I won't own a modern diesel (switched back to petrol) due to AdBlue injector failures and DPF issues despite doing motorway mileage. However I still think lithium battery most likely as there have been more examples of lithium batteries catching fire (EV scooters included) than diesel or petrol cars destroying an entire car park.

[@iancrosby3475]

The word "legend" is bandied about all too often these days, but Geoff, I have to say you've clearly put a hell of a lot of effort into this series of videos about something 'the media' has been very quiet about and whilst I don't always agree with the conclusions you reach; I'm only here for your enthusiasm- not that I'm calling myself the self appointed arbiter of anything by the way, - on this occasion though, it's obvious to anyone watching that you've gone over, above and beyond to clearly demonstrate balance and fairness whilst not losing any of your usual humour and clear passion, and I for one am grateful. Thank you Geoff.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Oh mannnn thanks so much ❤❤ Gonna spend the rest of the week making funny stuff to make up for it 😂

[@iancrosby3475]

@@GeoffBuysCars good lad, can't wait

[@silverfox4113]

Landrover was the first to produce an SUV in Hybrid form. They made the 3.0 SDV6 Hybrid from 2013 - 2018, in both Range rover and Range Rover Sport. It had a High voltage battery pack with 35KW of power. It would do a full range of electric for about 2 mile max.

[@MrDead1975]

35kw to do 2 miles, that's about £5 a mile at 30p kw

[@sydneywicks3747]

We had one at our workshop in 2015 (64) At 6months old fully charged on its best day with the wind behind you and everything off we got 0.7miles haha But you could get into London without being charged A customer had one and his l405 did 34mpg and the new 494 hybrid did 28mpg Carrying the extra 300kg isn’t good

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

Buying one of these heaps isn't good! @@sydneywicks3747

[@stevenfarrall3942]

I lived in Sunderland in the 70's. There was a night club owners war. One lot torched the other lots Citroen SM in a multi storey car park. Only the SM burnt out. The car park structure was not compromised.

[@Smiler7]

The owner of this diesel car has been arrested. The car caught fire while he was parking it! He was late for his flight so he left the car and only reported the fire at the flight check in. This was too late!!

[@markbray2988]

When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth…

[@kevinashurst634]

no, you just havent solved the problem..

[@JosephStealin]

Either way the building fell down because of the EV that were in the car park.

[@brianlopez8855]

No it was the planes that hit the car park and all the airplane fuel that spilled out...!

[@stevem815]

​@@brianlopez8855jet fuel can't melt steel beams.

[@davep3969]

Really? then please explain all the other car park fire collapses that have been happening for decades before EVs became a thing. You're clutching at straws my friend, best you walk away before you make an even bigger clown of yourself.

[@JosephStealin]

@@brianlopez8855 quick let’s invade Iraq

[@whocares264]

so funny ....you must think an ev brought down the twin towers...

[@JoeBlowUK]

Eventually, you'll be able to tell how many electric cars there were from the insurance claims. I predict a fair few on each floor.

[@escapetheratracenow9883]

The only other time a modern building collapsed from fire was 9/11. Nanothermite was the accelerant in that dreadful case, oh and demolition charges too with Building 7.

[@newsoftheday420]

How dare you.. reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 😉

[@terrydray]

The people will pay for this will be all of us who pay motor insurance. Everyone’s insurance policy will increase by hundreds because, mark my word, the insurance companies will never make a loss.

[@christopherderbyshire9748]

Geoff what we need to watch is how that vehicle is recovered. As per the car transporter ship being unloaded in Holland. They have to be in full hazmat. So when that vehicle is recovered we will have an answer.

[@roydavis5613]

@christopherderbyshire9748 No we wont. It'll be covered-up !!!!

[@kirkjohnson6638]

If a few hundreds or thousands of EVs filled all the streets and parking lots near the houses of parliament, I wonder if security forces would clear them out as a potential fire risk? That would be one quick way to detect if they are being insincere.

[@munkeh365]

Considering the Parliament car park is predominantly made up of EVs, they've clearly looked at the risk.

[@WeeShoeyDugless]

​@@munkeh365 One day, one day! And then Guy Fawkes' work will be complete!

[@johnwingate8799]

Don't tell the paleostinians.

[@munkeh365]

@@johnwingate8799 are they like people that live on the Gaza strip that avoid dairy, grains and sugar?

[@Invictus357]

John Cadogan, Auto Expert, did a great KZbin on this and the photo that he found from the incident was of a Land Rover Evoque, and the image clearly shows the passenger side of the vehicle ablaze, which indicated that it was a diesel hybrid vehicle, and that this model has had previous form for going into thermal runway, and it was that, that caused the diesel fuel to explode. The security footage he showed was bloody spectacular, but bloody terrifying. The carpark apparently didn’t have a sprinkler system WTF!!!

[@dougle03]

Steam engines run on coal.... Almost everything you said was wrong....@@xzox

[@kevinashurst634]

john cadogan is no expert

[@Invictus357]

@@xzox A sprinkler system is designed to prevent a fire from hopefully spreading, by saturating the area with water, thus reducing the chance of a fire from spreading. That’s why you see fire fighters hosing down say next door houses, if a house fire threatens other homes, same principle, wet everything else to mitigate fire spread.

[@munkeh365]

If you think John Cadogan is an expert, you're wrong. He's a crank. Geoff so wanted this to be an EV, but he accepted it wasn't and held his hands up. John Cadogan isn't that kind of person.

[@stevemawer848]

@@munkeh365 I suggest you rewatch - he does think it's a battery that caused the fire, so not an EV but an EV-assisted vehicle.

[@TheLaughingdonkey]

It was actually my car that caused the fire, I've been riddled by guilt, send deepest apologies for inconveniencing 50,000 people, and should have gone public days ago. I actually parked on the upper deck, but I noticed the deck starting to crumble and start to fall as I left the car - this was probably due to the sheer weight of my EV battery which is much heavier than the fuel tank, gearbox and engine of a normal car. This shocking incident caused a landrover driver's head to spontaneously combust - I think he just couldn't understand my choice of drivetrain. I couldn't save him, and left him resting near the passenger side of his vehicle as I ran for help. The rest is history. You were right all along, even though my EV was 300 times less likely to be involved in a fire, it was completely responsible on this occasion. You were absolutely right to not let the facts get in the way of a good story but at least your followers know the truth now.

[@royferntorp]

I repaired petrol tanks for years. One of the ways we used to NOT blow ourselves up was to fill them with diesel. Liquid diesel doesn't ignite very easily. Like kerosene it has to be atomized. There had to be a lot going on with a diesel vehicle for it to catch fire. Including the ignition source.

[@PeterTaylor-Photographic]

So, what happened at the Liverpool Echo Area car park fire in 2017? It was estimated that the blaze reached over 1,000 degrees Celsius. The fire started in the engine bay of a Range Rover but spread rapidly from there and destroyed the carpark.

[@philblinkhorn8304]

....and as Geoff and the rest of the anti EV brigade will no doubt delight in telling you, the EVs all over that car park made it much worse - in 2017??

[@superskier2]

Totally agree Geoff, footage showing the rear numberplate shows a very short number, yet the front footage shows a much longer set of blurry digits. Something dosent add up.

[@knoxieman]

yes the front footage is fake so fake my son could have made a better job of it

[@Caroline-ue7lp]

​@@knoxiemanI can't understand why more people don't see how fake that footage looks. It's so poorly done! They honestly think we are stupid!

[@munkeh365]

@@knoxieman the what now? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKGch5V_d813sNE&lc

[@markmenzies4218]

if it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck & quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. that was a lithium battery fire.

[@keegan773]

🦆🦆 it’s a lithium duck

[@robertjohnsontaylor3187]

If this was an EV or Hybrid having sprinklers is likely to make things worse. From other analysis of the car fire number 1, it was a diesel EV hybrid. Diesel fuel does not burn like the video footage shown, I haven’t tried this, but I am told you can throw a lighted match into diesel and the fuel would put the match out. [caution - do not try this out at home]. Lithium batteries in their process of burning produce their own oxygen, which why putting water on them won’t work, another reason is that lithium reacts explosively with water. Which is why I will never drive my EV in a flood, I immediately turn arround.

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

That’s because Diesel takes a temperature of around 121 C or 250 F to ignite it. Gasoline can light up at a lesser temperature.

[@NotJanine777]

Looking at the front and rear photos of the red Range Rover, my initial impressions are that: A. The number plates are different - the rear appears to have a 3-4 digit plate (private plate) and the front image appears to show a longer, more regular number. B. The front image of the car appears to have been photoshopped and looks like it’s either been edited or added in to the frame. It looks unnatural, especially the drivers side - it just doesn’t look right. It’s almost as if the original car has been covered over with the Range Rover image. 🤔

[@ryszard68]

We've certainly witnessed an Unforgettable Fire this October. It looked like the aftermath of a War. I bet when fire crews turned up it was Under a Blood Red Sky. Perhaps the driver noticed something strange like a bit of a Rattle and Hum coming from under the bonnet? I would have been out of there quicker than you can say Achtung Baby.

[@nicolassales8679]

Shame it wasn’t a on a Bloody Sunday!

[@chrisstones37]

They may cover for this blaze ....but they are gonna be busy the next few years 😅🔥🔥😉

[@fraserweir538]

How much are JLR paying for the owners silence. Still like to see the CCTV of it going in. But I guess they can doctor that too. Thing is you would think the insurers will get to the bottom of it. I see a gig dent in JLRs accounts coming.

[@bryanbufton4358]

The problem is the ruling class

[@frasercrone3838]

Look at the floating carparks that have caught fire, two sunk and the last came close to it. We cant say what started all the fires but we know that BEV's were on board and the fire got so hot it melted steel and went through several decks. BEV's might well be not to blame but they sure as hell made the situation a bloody site worse and in fact one life was lost. We are putting the cart before the horse as usual in implementing change then seeing what problems it causes and then try to remedy them or paper them over. As I said before what if the Luton fire was under a shopping mall or hospital or apartment block? It would not be just cars lost I can tell you.

[@Weirdbloke1]

Lithium is bad news whichever way you look at it, they used to use it to treat mental disorders. Many of the patients spontaneously combusted. Interesting. Thanks to Observation Deck for that info.

[@ponyponydevereux7291]

Thanks for that; just watched. You're right, it is interesting.

[@stevel9914]

7 up was originally sold with lithium in it ... to help people who were high...Atomic mass: 6.941 .... 7 rounded UP

[@cathrynpaterson7539]

Funny comment! I took lithium for over twenty years. It ruined my thyroid then my kidneys. Sometimes to maintain my sanity I joke to myself that I ran on lithium now I run on acid batteries (Voltaic acid)!

[@MrSabrecat]

Great video Geoff, as always, you make a terrible subject entertaining. I work for a Toyota dealership in Qld, Australia, new car sales, (I know, bad job choice, but it's only temporary). It's amazing how many EV/Hybrid evangelists there are, even in a country town. The propaganda machine has certainly convinced a lot of Sleepwalkers that it's good to go electric. I'm trying to plant seeds of doubt whenever I can. It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it!

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Well done! In a huge country like Oz im amazed they have taken off at all.

[@dennism7813]

When rich and powerful people have large amounts of money invested in lest say for instance, electric cars, then careless talk really can cost lives. This is roughly why I explain to people that politicians who earn mere thousands do not dictate to bankers who's bonuses start in the millions. Someone once told me how much it cost to have someone whacked. It wasn't a lot and that changed my whole analysis....

[@vickyingramnymann8543]

Can we have a whip round for some whacking.

[@doriangray6985]

?

[@esm7708]

You do know how much money is in oil?

[@WhiteDieselShed]

@@esm7708 With modern plastic banknotes, errr all of it??

[@esm7708]

@@WhiteDieselShed isn't there a bit of foil too. That must be the corrupt EV bit

[@serjmusiccrosstown91]

Fun fact ..Theres more polar bears now than in history as there was a no hunt treaty , they are a protected specie since back in the 80,s 90,s i heard .! Thnks for the vid 👍

[@richardharvey1732]

Hi Geoff Buys Cars, thank you for doing this, by the end you start to tackler some of the significant underlying issues that meant that the fire that started in just one vehicle ended with the total destruction of all the cars and the whole building> I don't think there is any way they can explain what did happen without the inclusion of the relevant cost cutting that made it so much worse. There is one more point you did not see fit to make, that cost of fire precautions would have slightly reduced the construction company's profits and slightly increased operating costs, this way the entire cost of all the damage will be paid by those who purchase insurance, the insurance premiums are always set to match the total claims put in, using acturrial tables this is not the same as total pay-outs, any rejected claims are still added to next year's premiums!. The overall outcome then is significantly greater costs for all car and car park users and insurance companies enhanced profits but no additional costs for owners and operators of the sites. This looks to me like a bit too much of a lucky coincidence!. Cheers, Richard.

[@blackcountrygaz7080]

I bet the owner has been paid hush money.

[@knoxieman]

its no secret the range rover diesel and hybrid have a problem with catching fire, its a design fault, range rover cant deny that.

[@zanycam]

Imagine a carpark in the future, 100% EVs, and then one that catches fire. Welcome to hell on earth. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@pbxn-3rdx-85percent]

100 EVs on fire. Adios Muchachos! 😄🤣

[@Hickalum]

Now imagine that on a ferry.

[@pokerman111111111111]

If the diesel car isn't there to start the fire then there won't be a fire. Obvious really

[@zanycam]

@@pokerman111111111111 you forgot the sarcasm-tags. 🤣

[@Hickalum]

@@pokerman111111111111 ; You will understand the problem with EVs … And the world will understand the problem with EVs when ferries and Eurotunnel and such like ban EVs from coming onboard …

[@holisticbiohacker8144]

And people will lap it up and not properly question the media’s deceit, of course!!

[@davep3969]

What's media got to do with it? there's an eye witness video of the fire which shows the number plate, which when you look it up tells you it's a non-hybrid diesel. Talk about a smoking gun. What more evidence do you want..... oh wait.... you're a conspiracy theorist, no amount of evidence or facts will burst your reality cocoon you live inside. Keep wearing the tin hats at night, you don't want those nasty facts spoiling your crazy little world now do you.

[@andydwan3501]

I was a firefighter for over 2O years in the inner city through the 80`s and 90`s. I have put out literally hundreds of car fires. Diesel (alone) engine vehicles do not burn like this unless they have an accelerant added. In those days that was petrol thrown in (never diesel as it is very hard to ignite), however lithium is a brilliant accelerant. The fire service will also be on arse covering mode, because regardless of what started the fire, to lose 1,200 cars and the actual car park is a professional disgrace. I am sure there were zones and health safety officers galore, however not enough water on the fire early doors!

[@gary6916]

Hi Geoff , great channel and great content .You've made my mind up to fly to Holland next year instead of taking the ferry , which I usually do , what the hell would happen if an EV decided to set itself on fire in the hold of a ship !!.......

[@RestorationBiker]

Yep, you and me both. Never going to go on a ship, or the tunnel ever again!

[@stevemawer848]

We know what would happen - it already has on a car transport ship.

[@beastieboy3926]

No matter what the source car was, I have looked at the larger picture, ie the fires on ships transporting cars,fires recorded from USA [ Teslas mainly] and many other videos [ Uncle Tony`s garage] is a good one.. I have concluded 1. I will not buy or lease an EV and 2 I shall make an effort not to park near one and certainly not in a multi story. We still live in a free country for now,so I will exercise my freedom of choice. I am certain we are not being given a transarent ,honest view of EV by govt and all the interested parties. Perhaps the market will decide.

[@Sp_75-76]

I can only hope all people share your attitude, so I can park my car without having to worry about getting scratches and dents every time I leave it

[@beastieboy3926]

Ha Ha scratches and dents may be the least of you problems.

[@peterdurnien9084]

Burning diesel fuel can get to 800C, A thermic lance cuts through concrete at 4000C, EV battery can burn at up to 2760C, but the rebar in the concrete expand faster than the concrete which was the probable cause of the collapse of the floor.

[@williwass6837]

The Best indication that its fake is the different license plates!

[@steveblanchard7293]

or stolen! Fake plate pays for a day in the multi story, finds the chosen vehicle put fake plate on front, drives out of car park. Easy really. Just on this occasion the car recognised the driver wasn't any of the recorded in the system car driver. And the vehicle has a 3rd party protection system that overloads the battery due to faulty fitting causing the fire to start. All hypothetical but worryingly possible.

[@andrewk5336]

Uncle Tony's garage has footage of the huge fireball that erupted from the upper floor of the car park, the vehicles fire having melted and breached the concrete floor... I suggest that you get in touch with your fellow reporter, he also showed the diesel fire characteristics, which has heat rising and thick black smoggy dense smoke... I am surprised that you have not reflected upon position of the DPF burner & diesel fuel tank position too.... As normally they are at rear of the back axles, yet we can clearly see no fire here, with the silhouette of the rear wheels in front of the fire... So please can you check this out more..

[@garypowell1540]

Dear Mr Viking Diesel fuel is notoriously difficult to ignite, unlike petroleum. It needs plenty of oxygen and burns with a cloud of thick black smoke so thick that it often makes the fire hard to even see. Denying the many and multiplying safety hazards of EVs is not doing anyone any favors, least of all EV owners and the entire EV industry. These problems should have been sorted out before even one of them came onto the market. When trains were first invented people accepted the particular risks involved because they could travel easier while doing so by horse had its own dangers, was fairly uncomfortable, and not particularly cheap either. There was a similar scenario with powered flight and many other new technologies including guns, and explosives, where the risks were clearly outweighed by the advantages. ICE cars have had over 130 years to iron out all of the safety issues, and have never been safer, more efficient, and relatively cheap to own, especially it you buy an old one that has been well looked after. We still have cars on the road built over 90 years ago that seem to be safer than modern EVs. Do you think that any of these EVs are even going to still exist outside of a museum or silly ideas in even 30 years' time never mind 90? Most of the ones currently being built will be lucky to have escaped the crusher in no more than 15 years. Either, they will have become completely obsolete or EV technologies will not have improved anywhere close to as much as they will need to if this industry is going to survive even 3 more years. Soon these problems are going to become folk law and when that happens the entire EV market will totally collapse worldwide. The cost of recalling these cars will alone cost countless billions. Insurance companies are now realising the massively extra costs of writing off virtually new cars and this is now being reflected in eye-watering rises in insurance premiums. Sticking one's head in the sand is not often a good idea but in this case, it is an act of 100% nailed-on suicide. You have far too much faith in the idiots that designed these death traps and you need to face the reality of the situation. It was done in a big rush because government handouts were on offer and legislation was promised, without the marketplace itself guiding EV development over a much longer period of time. This was a recipe for the utter disaster that it will undoubtedly turn out to be. Indeed it already is an utter disaster, not just for our car industries and their shareholders, which includes many people who have pensions, EV Suckers, sorry, Owners, but also for the environment itself. But far worse, the amount of treasure, human and natural resources that could have been spent doing something far more worthy and long-term to assist the poor and suffering of this world could have already saved many millions of lives, and provided for a much better future for many millions more. Perhaps you are not a religious person but I trust you have a conscience or some kind of natural human empathy. Are you so perfectly confident that these ever more depreciating incendiary devices are perfectly safe or safer than any of the alternatives? REALLY SURE? Have you considered that you may have already made yourself personally responsible for the death of even one human being, never mind several including children? When I finally depart this life I would very much prefer to know that I have never been responsible for such a thing, God or no God, judgment or no judgment. If anyone is paying you to promote these things then I most humbly suggest that whatever it is, it is not enough.