The MDK Project | Full Documentary

In early 2019 Bedros Keuilian brought together a team of instructors and subject matter experts to create The Modern Day Knight Project a 75-hour personal development program that's physically demanding and mentally exhausting to help men reach their greater purpose and potential.
The Project is for men who are committed to continued growth and self-development in leadership, family, business, faith, and fitness to become even better servant leaders for their families, businesses, community, and country.
Apply for the Project: www.themdkproject.com/applica...

[@westboundz]

I wanted to join ...but sadly I don't think I'm gay enough

[@frankiecal3186]

Nope...I think 🤔 your as gay as it gets. Your too gay.

[@djsanchez2]

My thoughts EXACTLY, they are all too manly for me. I just can't achieve that level of manliness. The whole kissing me and desiring to dominate them is a bit out of my league. I'll stick to my woman, and being a good father, and provider. BTW, $10k-18k is too much for cosplay, there are conventions of "soft nerds" who can show these posers the way to the he-man warrior weekend look they all aspire to.

[@TheFirstGoomba]

That's a loser mindset. With hard work and dedication, you too can be just as gay as these guys. Don't sell yourself short, brother.

[@Pharoset]

hahahaha

[@pluralcakeees]

@@TheFirstGoomba hahahahahahahahahaha🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣 But seriously though, there's better ways to be a manly, more complete man than to give all that money for this.

[@Streetdisciple27]

Just because you completed the project doesnt mean your equal to us who served in the military

[@calebtynes9574]

Underrated comment

[@dagothodros641]

They're probably stronger

[@xxsqf]

"your not like the people that invade and throw government over by using lies like wmds"

[@jboogie915]

@@dagothodros641lol no

[@tony52smith]

And richer

[@bossdaily5575]

This is honestly one of the worst grifts ever. I thought hustlers university is bad but damn. You pay $15k to get abused? For what? To join a group chat? This doesn't even help you make money like you guys claimed. Also if someone underperforms you kick them out, that defeats the purpose of the course lmao.

[@TheBlueskyson]

From Bitch to beast bro

[@nanmonstaway3599]

💯 exactly. This is a course for simps and incels

[@kishiberohan7955]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Daddy Tate recommends Granddaddy Bedros’ cult

[@taylorrenee4880]

It’s $18,000 now

[@StriklndProPane]

Imagine paying $12k to roleplay diet Hell Week to feel more manly. Take that money and go buy a house, badass car, shit ton of testosterone, join the marines, or really anything. Any of that would be more investment in your life.

[@Con4inous]

Damn they charging 12k ?

[@kozmatheclown]

@@Con4inous 18k now

[@rusty7984]

Here are 10 things I would do with 18k and didn’t feel manly enough 1. Join and MMA gym/ boxing gym 2. Enroll in some type of shooting course 3. Motorcycle classes 4. Make a home gym/dojo 5. Investing in stocks 6. Make some type of company 7. Emotional support group for people going through the same thing 8. Buy some guns 9. Get some more tattoos 10. Donate it to some community center

[@Dorfs]

@@rusty7984thats pretty feminine you should donate it to grifters so you get shouted at instead.

[@rusty7984]

@@Dorfs I already went through real boot camp with real drill instructors not wannabe tough guys who watched American Sniper once and made it their whole personality

[@thicboiaustin5400]

just join the army or marines or coast guard do it the right way

[@1997zhjc1]

why?

[@thicboiaustin5400]

@@1997zhjc1 because basic training has a science behind it so that no matter what you change these guys see drill sergeants and assume all you have to do is yell but being a drill is about being a mentor yes yelling and discipline is a huge part but theres a subtly in it these guys lack i could make a whole video on it tbh cause theres so many things wrong with this that need to be corrected for it to work

[@kenfern2259]

u dont have to spend 18k and u learn nothing from this. Military gives u job experience @@1997zhjc1

[@rusty7984]

@@1997zhjc1 You can also just join the reserves and still go through boot camp/ MOS training and then play dress up for one weekend a month 2 weeks out of the year if you don’t want that active duty life

[@absolutetuber]

and they'll pay YOU to go through it. does it suck at times? absolutely! do you learn the things this "project" is meant to teach you? absolutely....and more. i did 11 years in uniform. yes uncle sam screws you over at times but if you're really looking for this type of experience then do the real thing. its not like you have to commit for the rest of your life.

[@RileyG44]

This man is the clinical definition of a sociopath. Not one authentic word and every emotion is being faked. Woah.

[@fredred5037]

Late stage capitalism

[@CyclistChris]

You meant to comment that on an Andrew Tate video.

[@ThomasBoyce5000]

@@fredred5037 This has nothing to do with capitalism, so stop. Quit using it as a scapegoat

[@fredred5037]

@@ThomasBoyce5000 if you want a worthwhile alternative that gives you the mental and physical results he keeps saying; then start training for a triathlon and join a boxing/mma gym, and don’t quit it no matter how painful it gets. You’ll have genuine camaraderie and purpose for a much cheaper price.

[@certifiedredditgenius]

​@@CyclistChrisboth of them

[@user-uu7kc6vx3h]

I, too, want to empty my life's savings to be put in a body bag in the middle of the night in hopes that I will somehow become a better man. This doesn't sound like a scam at all and am taking this more sriously than anything in my life.

[@ThreaT650]

If I am being honest... This is just cosplay and role playing. They hit all the buzz words and terms. Navy Seal, combat, tactical, ect. Man had a panic attack, felt umanly about it, and then proceeded to do the most manliest thing he could envision to rid himself of it, that's how this comes across. What on earth a Navy seal or firearms instruction is going to do to help your mental health or your ambition, is non existent. this is day camp for men who feel inadaquete when it comes to their masculinity. If fragile masculinity had a look, it would be this right here. It's playing soldier without actually having to play soldier. The whole thing is just super weird.

[@dagothodros641]

I've done MDK project multiple times, these guys are real alphas and warriors who build other alphas and warriors. Not everyone can last in the crucible and be able to say the made it the full 75 hours of hell. At the end of the hour you will become a real warrior mentality knight with warrior brothers and do the circle jerk at the end .

[@taylorrenee4880]

⁠@@dagothodros641😂😂 it’s a joke. There is not 1 single alpha out there. You don’t become an “alpha” in 3 days. If anything, it makes you more beta. Thinking you have to be tortured by other grown men, just to feel okay about yourself? Jesus, get therapy and join the military.

[@dagothodros641]

@@taylorrenee4880 not true at all. MDK project helped me become the true alpha and leader I knew I could always be. From the intense workouts, leadership exercises, humiliation rituals, fire arms training, and having sexual experiences with all of the other alphas and letting them use me like so I could see how a true alpha behaves in the rawest environment, I feel alive again and full of vitality.

[@shady7bc]

He’s right. I too signed up for this course. Twice actually. First time I got kicked out on day 1 because I wore my velcro shoes and didn’t know that was against the rules, apparently only betas wear velcro shoes. So that was a hard $12,000 lesson. But I was determined, and once the bank approved my bank loan of $18,000, I joined up again a year later (price increase will no doubt be at $25,000 soon so I thought I better take advantage) I MADE IT! Passed the 3 days and got my alpha male certification to prove it. I’m officially an alpha now, boys :D Toughest weekend of my life but I agree, this will turn you from beta to warrior, and change everything for you. I’ll admit, the circle jerk at the end of each night was really uncomfortable at first. But the guys are all supportive and will help you bust out of your comfort zone.

[@WyattFL5]

I spent $3k on a full garage gym, started working out and eating right. Listened to Huberman’s podcast. Did wonders for mental and physical health. 💪🏼 Stay strong

[@Person0fColor]

These guys are cringe enough 😂 no one asked for your humble brag

[@localuser190]

you could do that 3 more times and you would then be matching the cost of this absolute scam

[@taylorrenee4880]

@@localuser190 more than that. It’s an $18,000 program. He could do it 6 times.

[@Justinicus24]

Serious question: why do people listen to Huberman and think he's some god for workout advice? What exactly has he accomplished other than talking?

[@WyattFL5]

@@Justinicus24 People think he’s a god? 😂

[@robwallace4992]

This is absolutely insane!!!! Why would I give you guys money... When I can do this for free. I'd be way better off getting paid for it by joining the military. All this is just an abbreviated Navy seals training program. Honestly speaking, if my life is that f***** up I'd be better off joining in the military anyway.

[@nanmonstaway3599]

Exactly

[@maxchan179]

you'd only be better off joining the military if you needed someone to pay for your bottom surgery

[@asukiWAN]

except military is 4 years idiot. not many people have that much time, they just wanna push themselves mentally and physically, and feel the sense of comarade

[@adriatic670]

Join the military than. I’ll let you talk to my recruiter and you can come by the office

[@asukiWAN]

@@adriatic670 not gonna throw away 4 years of my life minimum, or risk my life. Not just that but I'm disabled and considered ineligible.

[@ivanopizzorno6906]

When i was growing up you just joined the infantry to prove your metal.... Strange times

[@Lsprague97]

That’s what I did

[@mattaxelrod2533]

@@Lsprague97 lol 0311 here

[@bobspruce1196]

Not metal you proved yourself to be a good pawn.

[@pwnagraphic690]

Cosplay lol

[@kevinhansen9258]

metal💀

[@justanotherone685]

Can already hear every guy that does this shit: “I went to ‘the project’, so I completely relate to being a SEAL.” Gtfoh 😂

[@Soulen1986]

$15k weekend to do a mock hell week plus get bro psychology drilled into your head... the best lies are told bundled in truth. This program isnt for the average joe who wants to find his edge again if it is then make it $5k.

[@sad_vegan507]

They turned the comments off on the official channel 😂😂 cash grab scam artists praying on wannabes larping bud/s class 😂

[@sf1203]

I'd say that keeping the comments turned on is hella alpha. These guys must be the real deal. Sign me up.

[@brentcohee2681]

So this is for rich people that don’t feel accomplished.. last time I went through crap like that they paid me…

[@robwallace4992]

Finally someone with some goddamn common sense 😂😂😂

[@tonythekillab8189]

Yeah. That's the whole thing, it's all a giant grift. Going to church, therapy, and the gym will do more for you than this military larping bullcrap ever will. You'll save a lot of money as well lol.

[@carlhamilton5336]

Yea that’s what basically is I just joined the military

[@charlesburger7973]

Absolutely the most asinine, embarrassing thing I have seen in a long time. We are going to “pretend” this is BUDS and you can be “just like” a Navy SEAL. These con artists are preying on poor guys who lack confidence for whatever reason. Listen, be your REAL self. If you can’t be a SEAL or some other military icon, it is what it is. Become the best version of yourself! Be you. Even if this WAS a good thing (which it isn’t), you can’t change a guy in a few days. Save your money. Look inside yourself. You don’t need to be charged for hokey, external motivation.

[@robwallace4992]

I guess I had to scroll down a ways to see the real normal guys speak on this. KZbin is awash with rich people that have no common sense.

[@Thefabuloussoundwave2023]

That is good motivation to push through to the positive better than the MDK project scam

[@Boyhead1973]

The instructors are vets - but this is really cringe. If they believe 18K and 75 hours will result in complete change into an idea of what an Alpha male douce (to be fair...many will probably not rise to the level of complete doucebag) is supposed to be/act etc is laughable.

[@thePaniQs]

7:00 its all you need to know. Go to therapy brothers. Its not a war zone out there.

[@mishellefuller7681]

Lmao, this is the wildest thing I’ve seen. 😂

[@getonwithit.2847]

It fascinates me that people are stupid enough to pay 15k for 3 days of yelling from a navy seal who might possibly have anger managment issues and possibly going through a divorce and is using this as his anger outlet.

[@necronmageZD]

ah yes 18k for torture and to get insulted ☠

[@absolutetuber]

dont forget the cool little chat group you get to join!!

[@bobspruce1196]

This is smells like a Grift

[@calcarr3211]

Paying 18k for 3 days is insane for anything let alone cosplaying military training 😂

[@soybasedhominid]

Creating incels 18K at a time

[@civilarms247]

Great grown men playing seal training 😅

[@fourdegreeswarmer]

Get yourself a therapist and planet fitness membership.

[@jacksonmarshallkramer5087]

When I went through the Academy for my countie's sheriff department, my instructors were all SWAT Team guys. I'd wanted to be a deputy since I was a kid. I was a gun nut and a tactical nut. I'd been shooting guns since I was in first grade. I was in awe of these instructors. My primary was like Ray Care. Very intimidating and very motivating. 66 started and 22 graduated. They quit because of the PT. It was BRUTAL. I would have died before I would have these guys look at me as not "putting out" or saying I was lame. That was 26 years ago. I'm no longer chasing bad guys. My academy time was the greatest experience of my lifetime. Being pushed to that extreme and surviving what I thought was impossible. Was life changing. I owe those instructors more than they will ever know.

[@bengeorge9063]

You became a SWAT officer out of it. These guys are shelling out money and getting nothing for 72 hours. Better join the military or go through SWAT yourself😅

[@Person0fColor]

A 25% dropout rate? 😂 Dood the marines don’t even have that. High it’s because you can drop out that people will

[@certifiedredditgenius]

​@@Person0fColornah mate, don't sell short this guy's achievements. Thats a 33% success rate and only the truly tough guys that make it. With that being said, this is completely different than becoming a SWAT officer and getting paid to go through the PT. Whatever these "alpha male" scammers are doing is pathetic and a waste of money.

[@user-dr8et4kt7r]

Charlie brought me here

[@lkmetro8223]

Gay

[@Reczony]

how?

[@jackhughes7840]

I don’t get this guy. He plays the “I’m a tough guy act” when he doesn’t even explain any adversity he’s been through except he got molested as a kid by other boys. These other guys are military/police who have been in combat. Bedros is just a gym bro who likes hanging out with those guys but knows he never did what they did

[@shady7bc]

Man…this has got to be the lowest point for Bedros. This project scam makes him look really bad

[@_ElisDTrailz]

This video shows incredibly bad gun safety. What type of former military points a rifle at someone? Unloaded or not, this is basic shit. He is breaking every single rule the US Navy lays out for firearm safety and yet is claiming to be a SEAL?

[@paiv4256]

Those grifters don't care man

[@ArizonaGunsDave]

I was in the Army, I did my time which was 4 years. I am confused by this and am sitting here scratching my head. Is this a program to get men that never served in the military an opportunity to try and relate to those that have served? This is like having an imitation iPhone from China and acting like an iPhone user I guess, lol I have no other analogy.

[@calebtynes9574]

Cost more than seeing a therapist who treats you with understanding and empathy. Men need that more than yelling and anger…

[@someguy8914]

For 15k u can get a personal trainer and a top notch meal plan and still have plenty of money left over

[@nickweatherill337]

I suffered abuse from 3 years old and bullying from 4 years old all the way till my mid 20s I know how hard feeling worthless can be, when you feel like the best thing you can do for the world is die. I've been there and there is a way out, anyone who feels this way there is hope always remember that 🙏

[@Jordan-hs5db]

How much is the program

[@davelewis3698]

Just had open heart surgery in the last 24 months and a mechanical heart value , not sure this would work for me ?

[@sad_vegan507]

😂 why on earth do you think this would be a good idea for you ?

[@TheBlueskyson]

get out there Davo!

[@Ynkno]

hmm

[@ubercatattack]

Damn most of these dudes are old enough to have served during GWOT. Using past trauma as an excuse to shirk off responsibility is wild.

[@seanmorrissey8309]

Yo why the fuck would you pay 18000$ to do a shorter bootcamp, when the armed forces is free? Yeah, ill get right on being screamef at by old mrn again, only this time itll only cost my ebtire life savings.

[@harry6083]

Uhhh you get the same effect/results by disciplining yourself by doing three Murph workouts a week. $18,000 to get waterboarded. LOL. Or just hire a professional girlfriend and have her pee on you for a fraction of the cost. Hot girl motivation.

[@absolutetuber]

lololololol thats exactly what i've been saying. find yourself a dominatrix. she'll slap you around, treat you like a bitch, AND you'll get to bust a nut.

[@MM-qi5mk]

15k for 75 hour camp ? You think it’s worth that much ? 😂 cmon man

[@absolutetuber]

hey! don't forget the cool chat group you get to join!!! lolol

[@MM-qi5mk]

@@absolutetuberand the BROTHERHOOD 😂

[@justlivin2499]

18 thousand dollars guys, remember that

[@sad_vegan507]

Give me money, money me, money me a lot now, I money me a lot needing

[@05Darko]

I need this I need my suffering ripped from me. How do I do this

[@gveletanevarez18]

Cough up 18 grand

[@1997zhjc1]

find bad women. she will make you suffer

[@kishiberohan7955]

I think I found the bottom of the Alpha Male rabbit hole

[@taylorrenee4880]

I’m getting secondhand embarrassment watching this. 😂😂 this is pathetic

[@givanniredpill]

Going to tune in your content has already helped me improve

[@BedrosKeuilian]

Thank you for watching and for taking action!

[@shady7bc]

Come on Bedros. Are you not reading these comments man? Read the room, bud. I’m a fan but this is such a bad look…I guess it doesn’t matter when you can make 6 figures in a weekend? :x I always thought you were a man of integrity.. :/

[@user-dr8et4kt7r]

23:02 meme potential

[@aldrogo7510]

TBH i would never do this but kind of get the appeal. Obviously you don’t come out of it a Navy SEAL but I guess most of these guys are well off but going through a mid-life crisis. Worst case you are out 3 days and $18,000 steep for me and for most people but high powered executives can probably afford it. Other midlife crisis can be more expensive and time consuming: buying sports car, having an affair with the hot 20-something secretary and losing half your stuff in the divorce… Best case you had an experience different from your normal life and made friends or business contacts Most of these guys are too old to enlist in the military but could join a martial arts class or CrossFit group for the physical challenge and/or volunteer with their local fire department (which usually doesn’t have an age cutoff) to serve their community

[@neilpettit5953]

I can't believe I used to look up to this guy when I was in the fitness industry. What a clown.

[@raginrasta9667]

Happy new year Bedros and family

[@BedrosKeuilian]

Happy new year my friend! 🙏🏼

[@artisdying]

Biggest clowns ever

[@jemarhall808]

The digging your grave and the body bag, Jesus Christ 😮

[@TheBlueskyson]

very powerful i'd imagine

[@edgarl6824]

Mmmmmmm ima pay 15k for 3days to get yelled by a man threatening to cut his tattoo off 🤪

[@grimxenxd1590]

Why 18 grand tho? Surely can just charge 500 bucks... just ripping all these men off to pay your jock straps

[@absolutetuber]

its the ultimate grift. beta males want to become alpha and think dropping 18K and going through fake hell week will do it for them.

[@akutoxic-or3ik]

How do people fall for this shit

[@srohitthakur]

Man i am from India 🇮🇳 and want to join project want to go through everything i just saw! Please tell me how can i join this ?

[@BedrosKeuilian]

Just use the link in the description box to apply for it. We’ve had men come many countries to do the Project.

[@chanevazquez4610]

This is a total scam. The nerve of this guy to make people think this is worth there time! Lol

[@Thefabuloussoundwave2023]

Why the man so much money champ? Are you trying to get in the early retirement?

Whe are you launching the FRANCHISE? I absolute LOVE it. Hearing about it during your Show was already ringing it for me, but now... NO WORDS

[@lupemolina9117]

After celebrating my birthday doing The Misogi Challenge this is what’s next in my life I’ll be back down in Cali soon to complete this ⚔️

[@strongestdirector6137]

I'm excited, been waiting to see this. Just finished reading the book for a second time

[@BedrosKeuilian]

Thank you! Hope you enjoy!

[@certifiedredditgenius]

​@@BedrosKeuilianmate, you're a scammer. I hope you're ashamed

[@Thefabuloussoundwave2023]

​@@BedrosKeuilianI have fun laughing at the MDK project

[@ahmedallali5327]

Is it open for non-US residents?

[@jlsuperman]

One of the guys that graduated with me was from the UK. Yes!

[@cowboyslimeball9702]

This is so gay 😂😂😂

[@OverTheTop85]

All I have to say is NOPE! This just seems like a giant waste of time to me! But that's me I hope you guys make tons of money and find all kinds of men who would enjoy this! There's just no damn way I'm doing any of that! Haha.

[@MrPaglissi]

If megalomania was a person.

[@koostory1776]

Yea, like BDSM…. What’s the safe word 😂😂😂

[@hughdick1924]

Hello from Australia 🇦🇺 love your work! Thank you!

[@BedrosKeuilian]

Thank you brother!

[@codycreager4428]

This is such a joke 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Reczony]

elaborate?

[@daemon.mythos]

Awe...they're so cute. They think they are bad asses.

[@markusdnd]

hahahahaaaa. this is not documentary. This is promo video :D

[@fnsportscaymanislands4286]

The project ❤life changing

[@BedrosKeuilian]

Kendall! 👊🏼⚔️

[@youtoldharpotobeatme5023]

Amazing testimony! I recently found your channel. May God continue to guide your path.

[@BedrosKeuilian]

Thank you so much! 🙏🏼

[@NickKoumalatsos82]

Hey, I made the mini-doc. Amazing program guys! You will always have my full support B and team!

[@jlsuperman]

Checks out. You're an instructor for class 016 at this very moment.

[@Bookersbones]

Bro, you’re so jealous of Andrew Tate lol

[@bryanh5701]

Who?

[@Reczony]

how, this guy has been doing this way before andrew

[@jettfitceo]

Excellent documentary!

[@brianbachmeier34]

Awesome!

[@mathiasbartl903]

Lol, this costs multiple times of what Don Shipley asks for a week.

[@waffless5108]

This some shit even a masochist would skip out on

[@chosen2serve777]

Thank you...I can relate to trauma and self-sabotage exactly 💯 ❤🙏 Thank you for sharing your truth, we can all heal 🙏 and teach others too also 💪❤

[@BedrosKeuilian]

Absolutely!!

[@wumper9691]

No way this comment isn’t a bot

[@Larry_Fishermannn]

dang dude if you ever put in a real days work in your life you'd probably not have done this lmao

[@Wallstreet72]

Thank you for showing this

[@BedrosKeuilian]

🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@kvngbanks]

Q: How much does the Project cost? A: The Project is $18,000. However, this is not just for the 75-hour experience but also for the lifetime access into the Project brotherhood community once you graduate from the 75-hour experience. This brotherhood community is a private group of high performers from all industries where we connect, network, share wins and successes, and support each other. (Iron Sharpens Iron) The cost of NOT experiencing the Project and not becoming the leader, husband, and father you’re meant to be is much more expensive in the long run.

[@therainman7777]

😂😂😂

[@satanicgoat]

Isn’t this hazing

[@kevinthecounselor]

Always refreshing listening to you promote and advocate for men in therapy. Much needed

[@BedrosKeuilian]

Thank you!

[@Person0fColor]

Pull my truck over there! 😂

[@THEjoelivingstone]

Absolute grift. If you were actually abused you wouldn't write a book called "Man Up".

[@mrjonsey]

Lmfao dudes will do anything to feel like they belong.

[@em34ev3r]

Lol how and why does this little US Marshal swat guy fit in to this training program. What in the heck does teaching guys how to do CQB do anything for their mental strength?

[@cruse85]

What happens after they pass?

[@jlsuperman]

Passing is the entry fee to joining a worldwide brotherhood of bad ass men that hold themselves and each other to a higher standard of living. We tell graduates: "welcome to the hard part". - Jason Lane, class 011

[@robwallace4992]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tonythekillab8189]

Realize they got hustled, and spend the rest of their life trying to retroactively justify the fact that they dropped 15K on something the military would have paid you to do.

[@Reczony]

im tired of people saying that this is a sort of military, even though they do military stuff doesnt mean this is a sort of thing to get u in the military this is focused on self improvement.@@tonythekillab8189

[@axeman1314]

This is disgusting.

[@snoopdogg7872]

RESPECT

[@alanjovannylopes7404]

I think after watching this much more inspired to sign up. Thanks to your podcasts and stories I’ve been able to start online business and embrace my masculinity to the fullest. This year feels different I hope you keep putting as much content as you can. The youth of today needs it bedros.

[@BedrosKeuilian]

Thank you brother! I do not plan on stopping this

[@chanevazquez4610]

@Alan Jovanny Lopes: If you're serious about signing up for this scam than you're officially a class A moron

[@johnkarcis5142]

The most cringe thing about this is that a seal signed on to b part of it

[@abderrazakfarid956]

Big respect bedros Big respect to the team

[@BABYRAY30]

Profitting off of men's insecurities 😅

[@absolutetuber]

just like strippers lolol

[@chrisreid58]

Absolute game changer - Class016 💪

[@TheKyokushinShuffle]

Awesome.. Love it..

[@LAKESPEED111]

You lost me at, "me and my wife thought this up" lmao So much for any credibility that you had left, which wasn't much.