Alpha Male Bootcamps Are Sad

[@deathmetalsl]

Paying someone to abuse you physically and mentally is the most subordinate trait one can possess.

[@TADCSVCKS]

Didn't ask. My content is superior 🎉

[@relykremok1225]

what's worse is they're paying these people abuse them and make them bullies, imagine the mindset they're instilling in them "oh this is how alpha male does you should always YELL at them pick a fight for no reason" 🤣

[@amechanicalsoul]

There's a funny irony to it. I'll never get over how so many people's definition of "toughness" is in reality supreme ego-tickling weakness. People paying out of the nose because they have some kind of FOMO, to be abused in the hopes of one day becoming an abuser (presumably that's the end game, to also become a screaming maniac that hoses other people down) isn't any kind of real strength of character, it's fragility.

[@AADP]

ah but when one goes to germany and ask for a big tittie blond to fill you with a strap on who throw milk and hit you with a riding whip, then you are not judge

[@Ollybollyk]

sounds like marriage

[@sunlightsage2982]

My dad used to tell me this: Being strong isn’t about making life harder to prove you can face it’s challenge. It’s about making the challenges life does throw at you bearable.

[@yakovgulyy6931]

1000% facts your dad preaching fr.

[@arathsg9824]

W father moment

[@coroner2141]

your dad sounds like he grew up during the leaded fuel era

[@Throbingkcoc]

Bruce Lee had a similar qoute that I always really admired. It's not what happens to you in life It's how you deal with it.

[@angryturtle7436]

my dude's dad is probably solaire god damn

[@jeanthemachine007]

Unironically paying $18,000 to become a "Alpha Male" is the saddest shit ever

[@tweenytwinkies]

Even ironically doing it is sad

[@solereeper3955]

​@@tweenytwinkiesi think itd be kind of funny to do it ironically if you had the money. The 18,000 is really the only part thats NOT funny

[@Pack_Watch]

Yeah, a REAL man would pay a billion 😎

[@snail_stuff]

@@Pack_Watch I hope this is satire

[@LuisSierra42]

@@snail_stuff REAL men don't hope

[@JimWallace311]

If I wanted someone to yell at me, I'd hold the flashlight for my dad.

[@peaveyst7]

lol

[@miguelpadilla31]

"A little to the right....no...up, left...hold it there.....no down....i said DOWN!"

[@brunoqnzbk7891]

🤣🤣🤣

[@TheGdog472]

Hahahahhaha so good.

[@Davidvanzutphen]

*fleshlight

[@MrBallen]

this alpha male stuff is literally just knock off special operations military training with former spec ops instructors leading it.... I think this sort of thing works great for ACTUAL special operations training, cause it def weeds out a lot of people who are not cut out for the job.... but to pay $18K as a civilian to go through this, that just seems totally weird and not worth it at all.... to each their own I suppose

[@Jamienicholas02]

I see

[@AhmyaFlowers]

Hi Mr ballen 😊

[@cambamslam3510]

It's not even special operations military training lol. It's a severely watered down basic training at best.

[@bradendeifel9263]

Mrballen commenting on Charlie’s vids is not the crossover I expected to see today. Great work on the strange, dark and mysterious delivered in story format!

[@ronmower]

@@cambamslam3510 WATERED down is right...

[@clarisrichter7966]

The fact that you can literally go to military bootcamp for free and get much better "Toughness" training is hilarious

[@mongocom1735]

"free" actually EARN MONEY while doing it. imaging paying for that?

[@citizenofcorona8783]

Not only for free, but they pay you to be there AND pay for your college among other things.

[@paulbarclay4114]

to be fair the military these days isnt going to be better than this maybe the marine corps still is but even that has been taken over by wokeness ive heard

[@citizenofcorona8783]

@@paulbarclay4114 what about the navy seals?

[@alexc9434]

@@paulbarclay4114I did ten years active duty and even the newest recruits I saw in 2020 are still tougher and generally more prepared for any situation than any civilians I meet now that I’m out. There is very little wokeness in the military from my personal experience. Unless it changed in the last two years I’ve been out

[@AUser-t6n]

If you really want to push these guys to their limit, make them read a book.

[@nathanfesnic9901]

This is a good one 😂

[@warlordofbritannia]

Bro thinks they can read 🤣🤣 Seriously though, for a bunch of so-called tough guys who allegedly push boundaries…they’re just reinforcing the most toxic and harmful stereotypes of “masculinity.” They’re about as revolutionary as your average earthworm

[@DumplingDoodle]

@@warlordofbritannia I am SHOCKED to see insightful commentary preceded by a “bro thinks X 💀” comment. Well said!

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

@@warlordofbritannia Hey now, don't drag them down to that level. I'll have you know that earth worms are far more revolutionary and important than these "alpha males" will ever be.

[@quekumber]

@@warlordofbritannia lol at seeing a few clips and commentary and think anything is being reinforced. Bedros, who is the main guy, literally advocates numerous books and he does breakdowns of them FYI .

[@Arctrooper2091]

Imagine how much better you could improve yourself and defend your family with $18,000 if you didn't take this course. Pay for therapy, gym membership, martial arts classes, guns, home security system, learning a skill or trade... there's so many things you can do with $18,000.

[@dohboy88]

Should be a top comment right here. If you have $18k sitting around that you can use for self improvement, there is literally an endless list of actual training courses you can take that teach you real skills you can use.

[@roh41l_vfx]

I really want a personal trainer since I can’t do exercises correctly myself but I’m too broke to afford one. This makes me blood boil

[@8ollo_302]

ask someone at the gym? it sounds like an excuse@@roh41l_vfx

[@higaiwokeru]

Start a business probably

[@JamesWhite-th5vk]

Or, to put it succinctly, join the military.

[@kingdomkrook]

They could have joined a military reserves program and got this treatment for free, while actually learning something.

[@daslynnter9841]

But that's a commitment and these guys only want to get all those lessons for minimal effort then return to their lazy lifestyle. I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for people with $18,000 to not only throw away, but pay for torture. Military pays you, and dominatrices are probably cheaper. And if they actually need help, therapy is way cheaper, and has a small perk of no torture involved.

[@misalignedmisanthropist]

Exactly, thats the stupidest part. At least in military the treatment there makes sense. Here some guys just shout at you for no reason

[@elseggs6504]

Question is if the military would take them at all. Despite everything the army has the luxury of choice and that wont change until theres a draft.

[@AnnaVictrix]

AND getting benefits like mortgages and school loans from the government.

[@cjbartolotta4743]

First thought in my head too. Any reserve and a therapist, solid combo that will actually deliver results.

[@KoenRH2803]

This man is a genius, fixing trauma and insecurities by replacing them with new ones during the camp. Amazing

[@Jumpyj3st3r150]

Like getting off of beer to get addicted to crack

[@chickengod9885]

"The Best way to forget an old wound is to open a new one!" -Jack Krauser resident evil 4

[@GRedb]

that was the gayest statement ever. You are not gonna get new insecurities and trauma from that camp bruv maybe you but a regural man wouldn't what are you on about?

[@KoenRH2803]

@@GRedb it’s okay man, you don’t have to display your insecurity in your masculinity in a comment section and get all offended. Go enjoy life

[@TheCommanderTaco]

The technique worked for Major Payne when he wanted to get people to stop focusing on their injuries lol.

[@AnnaVictrix]

I'm still blown away that anyone thinks it's "alpha" to blindly follow another man who tells them what to do.

[@lightpika]

I'm saying like what? How can you ever be an Alpha like that? First of all, Alpha males don't know that are alpha lol

[@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese]

@@lightpika Yo exactly. "I'm the alpha male! Here's $18k," says the remora clinging to the shark's fin. Meanwhile, what's the shark thinking? "Hunt. Kill. Eat. Yum."

[@absolutelyfookinnobody2843]

Bro these people are just just the righty version of leftoids

[@vp_-ld4bz]

@@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese Based shark.

[@JimmyNuisance]

And they’re following a man who most definitely sells and promotes "male enhancement supplements" while raging at trans stuff… it’s crazy how much body dysmorphia exists in the alpha-sphere. Everyone is running around feeling less of a man than they imagine themselves to be… so they need to take supplements and hang out at the gym all day so they can bulk up and be the men they truly think they are…. It’s super weird.. bunch of malnourished nerds who are shocked every time they see their own reflection and are reminded that they’re just a dude.. not a chad, not an alpha.. just a chud named Ralph. How do you turn a chud into a chad? Self help books and supplements baby!

[@AA-yl9so]

My trade school was 13k for a 15 week program. Paid it back within a year of working. You can’t put this goofy course on a resume.

[@not-him-I-swear]

“Ah yes I payed 15k to become an alpha…”

[@KenjiAsakura09]

"I attended Hustle University and Alpha Camp"

[@planescaped]

I see on your resume that you learned excel "on the streets G"

[@josephpe90]

What did you go for bro? Just curious

[@AA-yl9so]

@@josephpe90 powerline work

[@jesseteixeira6284]

How insecure does an entire society have to be about its masculinity for an entire industry like this to thrive?

[@somebodyoncetoldme2664]

Maybe if people didn't kick a dead horse when it's already dead then there wouldn't be an entire market of sad men there.....when yall still make fun of them for being so sad and desperate they'll spend all their money just to find a purpose in life and keep living.

[@CarlosSpicyWang]

​@@somebodyoncetoldme2664Lefties: RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MEN ARE BAD REEEEEEEEEE

[@nocaptainmatt3771]

You can thank the ultimate matriarchy that the US has become

[@genericscottishchannel1603]

yes

[@Pack_Watch]

Make my sandwich 🥪

[@Big3DREAMER]

“Just because something is hard and you do it, doesn’t mean you benefited from it” -Moist

[@Based_location]

Parris island would differ

[@vicrattlehead5051]

Not true, Dark souls hardened me, it changed me... 😔

[@Loltroll8]

@@Based_locationlemme kick you in the nuts and see if you gain anything.

[@brianmcdonald7017]

That's some real wisdom.

[@alehlete830]

the same peopel they made a father son bootcamp where they make sons go blindoflded and have to wlak across like a bride with sharp stuff udnernearth FOR BONDING and peopel in the comments supprot it saying oh i wish my father was still alive we could of bonded so well with this.... like bru hwhattttt if u have to go to a father son bootcam pwhere dnagerous stuff happens u not a good dad

[@andrewbryant4259]

Man, you could just join the military, get paid, get fit, and have a career and a better experience. This is wild

[@HushPuppy-sz4dp]

@brissett.lucea.hanover.jamaica first of thanks to @pinguins, now listen up, there's a small restaurant name charmaine at keep-left brissett that has some disgusting pathetic workers who is spiting and blowing mucus in customer food and trying to blame spirituality for there repulsive action I got the same complaint from 4 person now and there could be more, for all the person who lives in that area or anyone who consume from that restaurant I urge you to Keep a weapon close for self-defence against these disgusting lucea restaurants

[@FantomPhoenix]

​​@@Eldritch-1My guy, while it's true the military is trying to get with the times, it's still full of members who despise woke propaganda. Who do you think the military appeals to most?

[@Regu269]

"Why don't you just join the military and either get killed in a trivial dispute between countries or survive with a new debilitating mental illness or injury and get abandoned by your government when your done" yup great choice

[@Regu269]

​@@Eldritch-1Lmao. Stop. You've unironically called the US government woke. You need to clean the rot off your brain

[@owensomers8572]

@@Eldritch-1 Because you know? 😆

[@americandissident9062]

Something I noticed during military training (Basic training, SERE, etc.) is that the harder the training program was, the less yelling the instructors did.

[@davidlilly1000]

I wish they did another season, but the show "The Selection Special Operations Program" the most motivating and soft-spoken people, were the 2 Tier-one operators.

[@weirdo1060]

Military training is about skill learning. This just seems to be harassment without any benefits.

[@drn13355]

I was Army 22 years. Retired in 2022. Agree. 99.999% of military training people are not screaming and yelling. This is what idiots think "military training" is. If they wanted a real experience have them pull duty all weekend and then field day the barracks.

[@NLTops]

These guys just watched Full Metal Jacket too much. Which don't get me wrong was a great movie. But their takeaway is dumb.

[@americandissident9062]

@@NLTops Nah, they watched the documentary about Hell Week. This is a HW knockoff.

[@Anthony4949]

Former Marine here and couldn’t agree more. These weak minded men are being taken advantage of out of desperation. We all have despair and hard times. It’s called life. It’s not what defines you. Do your best to provide and just be there for your family the best you can. Seeing a therapist doesn’t make you weak either. It means you have the balls to fight whatever demons haunt you.

[@RediTtora]

Stolen valor

[@pestilentsleeper9152]

What do you mean by former?

[@mousepad2675]

hes not a marine anymore, so veteran marine or sum like dat @@pestilentsleeper9152

[@healthyliam6803]

Sure you are.

[@thomasbigatti7983]

Weak minded men won’t put themselves in these situations 💀

[@Lehnerd]

This is literally like hell week in the military, but instead of becoming a navy seal afterwards, you become a slightly traumatized man that is down 18k and will have all sorts of pain for the next two weeks minimum.

[@mikewatkinson1996]

Found the comment i was gonna make. Nice.

[@axtondragunov1784]

Don't forget instead of having a stable career for the next 4 years where the government pays you you instead get no useful skills or job after and I guess "bragging rights"

[@jimbo2947]

for real, at what point do you just conscript yourself instead.

[@johnnyenglish6751]

%100! 🤣😂🤣

[@sdawg58]

Imagine knowing someone that went to Alpha boot camp. They'd never shut up about it... Like they're some badass.

[@imperialtutor8687]

It’s terrible how mentally broken men are taken advantage off. You can obviously make fun of them but at the core of the issue these people feel so desperate to search for some meaning in their lives.

[@emers0n507]

and it’s crazy once you start really looking into it the highest rate of suicide is male military men. so even with pushing this whole “alpha” and hyper masculine culture men’s mental health is still on the back burner further forcing this idea that men have no feelings and should just always take what’s thrown at them 😂

[@prettyokandy230]

if they're down this bad they probably deserve it tbh

[@luckyinky7849]

​@@prettyokandy230it depends on some of them

[@BB-ed4om]

@@prettyokandy230if they have 18k in expendable income they’re doing better than me. I’m stressing about student loan payments starting again. I don’t know what they need to learn about financial freedom if they can just p*ss away 18 grand no sweat.

[@BB-ed4om]

@@prettyokandy230not that money is everything. But if they have wives and kids and all of their material needs are taken care of, they’re not “down bad” just extremely insecure.

[@AwkwarddFoxx]

My dad’s a former SEAL and had to go through intense training. He was a SEAL for 4 years as part of a college scholarship deal. It was only when I was like 20 did i woman up and have the courage to tell him to tell his inner drill instructor to take a hike. I genuinely wish he was more emotionally available when I was growing up because our relationship absolutely sucks as of now. I take after him in a lot of ways, and I cant explain just how frustrating it was that I would set aside my pride long enough to have a conversation with him and open up to him only for him to turn around and mock me. Maybe thats just my first-born daughter energy kicking in, feeling like I have to hold it together because no one else will. It really sucks. My advice to parents is: Don’t mock your children when they pour their heart out to you, and certainly don’t subject them to 75 hours of torture. Hell, don’t even subject them to 1 hour of torture. You’ll mess up as a parent, because we all mess up as people. Tell your ego and pride to take a long walk off a short pier, get your head out of your ass, and *apologize.* Apologize when you mess up. My dad’s hardly apologized for anything, I can only think of one instance off the top of my head, and my mind can’t even humanize him if I tried. He seems more like a robotic drill instructor.

[@aidanfaller5855]

Damn I'm sorry that sounds awful. Its really important for parents to be understanding of their kids and support them emotionally. Growing up with a parent like that sounds really rough I hope you're doing better now

[@AwkwarddFoxx]

@@aidanfaller5855 I wish my relationship with my father was better, but after being ridiculed and mocked so often when I tried to have heart to heart conversations with him as a teenager, it just became pointless to even try. Of course, the wish for his approval still remains because :) of course it does.

[@ratful6789]

There is a reason why your father is like this, also since its your father and your own blood you should love him despite what he is especially if hes not doing something really bad to you and enjoy the little you can get from him. Do not hold any grudge and learn from his ""mistakes"" , but do not become a soy dad too

[@Bruh-vf8np]

​@@ratful6789 my father's mother would parent my father too strictly, almost close to abuse but what hurts him the most was how emotionally distant his own mother was. He has never done the same for us, He is a good father that is present emotionally and is there for us even when things gets rough. There's a good reason why he didn't do the same parenting and treatment as my grandmother, go figure.

[@ratful6789]

@@Bruh-vf8np That is the advice i was giving to the other comment, learn from your predecessor's mistakes and adapt but at the same time you should forgive and still love them if they arent the best parents because they are your own blood and only family but as well because people rarelly born as devil

[@Grace-tg4oy]

This is the most "Men will do [blank] before going to therapy." Thing in existence.

[@Paulkotsu]

Therapy is not a cure-all lil bro

[@ShadowTheHedgehog003]

​@@PaulkotsuIt sure as sh!t is more helpful than whatever grift you keep buying is though.

[@lynnespinoza4736]

​@@PaulkotsuEven so, Therapy > Copium

[@evolalienn]

@@Paulkotsunobody said it was lol. *nothing* is a cure all. You have to want to get better and actively try to reach a better version of yourself with habits, mentality, perseverance, and kindness brick by brick. Therapy is by far a better tool than wasting money with grifters.

[@AnkaaAvarshina]

@@Paulkotsu yeah sure and I'm sure that money that could've been spent on therapy is better spent on a stupid excuse of a "boot camp" just so you can get physically, verbally, and emotionally abused by some douchebag who thinks he's better than you? Cool.

[@devouredremains]

Imagine being a "straight as an arrow alpha male" but deep down your top priority is impressing other "alpha males". 🤔😂

[@Albert_7]

I just realized how gay this is

[@K.2.K]

That’s the irony. All these alpha redpill conservative dudes cry about & make fun of lgbt men & liberal men, but in reality it’s them who are weak & insecure in their masculinity

[@KenjiAsakura09]

It's all one huge circle jerk

[@nirochan4591]

When was impressing someone is gay ? 😂

[@Wastingsometimehere]

@@nirochan4591 You're right. It could be closet bi

[@PerryKhensing]

Amazing experiences you get at Alpha Male camp: • Getting yelled at • Being waterboarded while being yelled at • Digging holes • Being in a body bag because... uh... • Getting yelled at • Being insulted by someone who's acting like they're tough • Normal experiences in life being re-explained in ways that make them sound psuedo-deep • Laying in water • Getting yelled at

[@GuilhermeMetz]

to be fair, getting yelled at for a while helps you learn to think and react under pressure, all the other shit was nuts. 18k for being soaked for a weekend is definitely the dumbest possible use of money and time

[@ziadaly2115]

I think you forgot about the part where they get yelled at

[@quantumhawk806]

​@@GuilhermeMetzah yes please tell that to the many children that have faced this abuse and are now struggling. Getting screamed at for no reason while learning/doing something is not useful. It will just teach them to freeze under pressure.

[@jamesdoakes4956]

@@GuilhermeMetzthat’s so not true. The yelling is purely for theatrics for the video, and a fetish for the people paying to be yelled at. That’s literally all this is. These men are cucks who wanna be dominated. But they hate women so instead of paying for a dominatrix they’d rather get their rocks off to a muscular man yelling at them

[@metalogic1580]

​@@quantumhawk806we are talking about adults here, not children, innit?

[@rossgadsby9663]

Paying to do this is like the most "I almost joined but..." energy

[@derekmcroberts1380]

That's all I could think. "You do know the military will pay *you* to get yelled at, and you'll probably actually learn something."

[@BecauseYNotYT]

I'll be an asshole for a minute and say that I love this videos because they remind me that even at my lowest points, I am not as dumb as some people are daily

[@UnicornsExist17]

Not an asshole. Appropriate social comparison.

[@Papa_Straight]

Not really dumb nikocado can afford this and should avocado in this

[@TheBronzeTurkey]

If only you knew proper grammar

[@ShreddedSteel]

missed the mark when you could barely string a sentence together

[@d.optional3381]

Thats such an inferior sentiment

[@retrieverstudio]

The worst thing is, on top of this industry that preys upon the self esteem issues and vulnerability of modern men, there’s a children’s version of this hellish program. Edit: It’s called the squire program, run by the same guy.

[@sashatotinok5615]

U talking about rotc?

[@Person0fColor]

Right, this only highlights the degree in which this society has failed men. 😂 There is no shit millions of men out there who are just playing video game not married not having families and not buying homes. Home ownership is at a 50 year all time low.

[@Person0fColor]

@@sashatotinok5615ROTC is for f@673+s for sure but probably still too manly for you

[@lonniecynth]

@@sashatotinok5615alright I’m assuming you mean jrotc unless you’re talking about college aged adults but it can really be helpful at teaching life skills for kids

[@commanderrex8351]

Jrotc really helped me out it taught me some basic shit and got a promotion in the army for doing it

[@TheMrAllam]

They paid $18,000 for some SEALS Boot Camp LARP. You could have had the same experience by just trying to legitimately join the SEALS for almost nothing.

[@desertdude8274]

Plus they put you through normal boot camp on top of that and actually teach you useful shit sometimes. Best part government pays for it and give you money to be part of it. I don't understand where you would even try to get the dough to pay for all this shit.

[@Jamienicholas02]

Yes

[@ryanakers]

Why is it when it comes to military u civilians think u know what u are talking about u don’t bcz it ain’t that simple to just join the seals u have to join the navy then try to be the 3 percent out of 100 that actually pass through

[@desertdude8274]

@@ryanakers I'm in the Navy goofball. Also my point still stands.

[@TheMrAllam]

@ryanakers Civilians? Like the guy who replied to you, I'm also a veteran, so don't always assume, and second, the Navy SEAL point was for comedic effect and also to explain what training these idiots were trying to emulate. Just the regular basic training of the Air Force would break those losers.

[@jalonwilson5096]

this whole program sounds like a PTSD speedrun to me

[@shawnmendrek3544]

lol

[@Alloccer]

As someone who served in military, this is both sad and laughable. I get what they are trying to do, and I can say that army training turned me into a different man. But it took 9 months, not 3 days, and those super intensive moments were thinly spread. They were not what really mold us, it's the discipline, the responsibility over long time what changed us, not that one time our sergeant made us to present him our equipment (which took 6 hours, and we were sweating buckets and bleeding from knees and elbows by the end). Thats a cool/funny story to tell afterwards, but no more than that in long term. Sorry for broken English, my third language.

[@DumplingDoodle]

Very solid English first of all, and second, you’re spot on. To change, you need DISCIPLINE, not short lived abject misery.

[@simonpack1941]

Thanks for your service 👌

[@MelonMafia1]

Damn 9 months for bootcamp? What country was that?

[@Ukraineaissance2014]

​@@MelonMafia1its common across europe

[@abigslimjim]

@@MelonMafia1maybe he’s talking about basic and ait combined

[@tylerscott3979]

Honestly, if you have 18k to blow on a 3 day bullshit camp, I feel like you have already achieved a higher level of success than many

[@mattwong5403]

If they want to play weekend warrior without the risk of combat, they can join the reserves as an Air Force Officer (if they have a BA) and choose a non-combat job. Or join law enforcement, or spend $200 on an airsoft milsim event so they get the actual infantry experience for 2 to 3 days. It's a lot more fun than spending $18k to do fake basic training

[@Pedro-uk2vf]

The comment no one wants to like because that would mean they’d have to accept this.

[@GoldenGod69]

@@mattwong5403If I would have joined the chairforce, TACP would have been the way

[@jacquesthebeux7212]

​@@mattwong5403heard that getting into the Air Force as an Officer is up to a 2 year wait, and EXTREMELY selective

[@TheRealJoeDirt]

​@ejro2820 TACP is dope but CCT is the Special Ops version, which seems even cooler. Either way dope af

[@saltyrobot5549]

What's insane to me is that they could've spent that 18k on therapy and achieved far better results

[@lifeofjeffrey2447]

Or if they want to get into boot camp, they could’ve just gone to the US military and as a matter of fact, YOU GET PAID for it

[@dragoon9382]

@@lifeofjeffrey2447 lmao

[@bluebloo9955]

Or they can just not and you know be a regular human being amongst society

[@Resolver101]

@@bluebloo9955”Don’t go to therapy. Just be normal” Amazing advice

[@Jestrath]

​@@lifeofjeffrey2447my thought exactly. If I wanted to be treated like shot like that i would just go to to real boot camp.

[@lesliewolfe7643]

Charlie snickering during that guy's "dash" speech is everything 😅

[@dmichael7144]

He literally quoted “The Dash” by Scotty Mccreery!

[@humanoid251]

What makes this extra sad and depressing is that, according to some of the other videos covering this that I’ve seen, most of the guys at these camps are there because their dads, uncles or other male guardians sent them there. They were so afraid that their kids would grow up to be nerdy, gay/trans, whatever that they paid $18,000 to send them to some wannabe boot camp that doesn’t teach them anything except what it’s like to be wet in different places at different times of day

[@manwiththeredface7821]

So they're outsourcing fatherhood (along with all the responsibility that comes with it), how masculine...

[@orugacrest]

better to be a brainless outcast than a plaguebearer

[@reshie]

Sending your kid away to learn how to be "masculine" from another man for 18 000$ probably is one of the most BETA things anyone can do

[@Ilive_420]

​​@@orugacrest Just be hygienic (which also isn't really considered manly by many..) and you won't be a plaguebearer ✌

[@Thomk121]

Idk, the clips I saw of those dudes they all looked over 18. At that point no one is sending you anywhere against your will. And if you allow that then maybe you do need the "alpha" training. Lol 😂

[@Renflower24]

When I was 14, going through the most insecure part of my life where I felt fat for just breathing, I bought a course that cost $60. My mom said that she’d let me buy it to let me learn a lesson, but I was so sure back then that I’d show her and everyone else. The course included a 15-30 minute long 'thank you' and 'you won't regret this' video, and a link for pre-recorded daily videos of follow-along exercises. No meal plan, no personal trainer, and no results, which the advertisement promised over and over, stressing how different it was. I dropped it within a month even after trying to give it my all. Now I’m 19, and though I always figured I knew better because I never came from a rich family, I can appreciate that I paid $60 I couldn’t afford instead of $18k. It’s easy to laugh at these kinds of videos now, but I really appreciate my mom for letting me experience that.

[@Freddles780]

W ASF mother tbh glad you learned an important lesson and keep on keeping on my fren!

[@chriswilliams4575]

Mama is the real top g

[@conorjamieson7963]

Mom game strong as fuck for real. You gotta let your kids fail sometimes, its probably hard to know when though as a parent.

[@jochenkraus7016]

​​​@@conorjamieson7963Sometimes you have to actually do things that might work or not. And it's a difference between getting something explained and agree or seeing the light by yourself. So in a way the course worked :-D BTW when watching the boot camp stuff in this video: Looks like military without the sometimes useful (e.g. learning first aid) and the cool things (weapons you don'thave to pay for. And of course getting paid for all that).

[@andrewcheng1998]

Tbh can’t really expect for coaching at that price but if one does biology/science well enough there are definitely ways to get reasonably fit from free online info only.

[@Cerulium]

As a hose gunner in the local water gun battle of '09, I can attest that these men are enduring the toughest training imaginable.

[@WD_724]

I agree. I was in the mud trenches of ‘94 and this shit sounds hard.

[@bigdapramirez6157]

Thank you for your service

[@Fluff_gobocat]

Oh, those were nothing to the snow trenches of '73

[@LonzoZoty]

I agree I was a hail hurler who served in the battle of Poseidons palace

[@davidtalavera9138]

We all appreciate your service soldier 🇺🇲

[@ParanoidAndroid91]

"Stop asking for electrolytes!" 😂

[@helloitsme9604]

That part cracked me up lmao! 🤣🤣

[@jphansen5299]

Was he just like “so do we get electrolytes before or after we dig our graves?”

[@Monnoponno34627]

yea, hahahah that was WILD

[@b-ner2616]

“You’re born, you die, and in between you live” truly awe inspiring words that have never been said before

[@hugejackedman7423]

“We live, we love, we lie”

[@kagami27]

I used to make fun of desperate men being taken advantage of by 'alpha male gurus'. Now I just feel bad for them and I hope they get all the help they need. This is just sad

[@JimmyNuisance]

I always felt bad for them, I always mocked them, and I always will.

[@Kitsuragi556]

@@JimmyNuisance You're a true hero. Really out here making a difference, bud.

[@JimmyNuisance]

@@Kitsuragi556 Who said anything about making a difference? We’re laughing at lesser men who are aware they’re lesser… nothing about that smacks of me making an effort to help. Besides, these guys PAID 18k to be ridiculed. I offer that service free of charge, you should be joining me in pointing and laughing if you REALLY want to help these pathetic losers.

[@danielhicks1824]

​@@Kitsuragi556tbf, it's in the name

[@looklook478]

Don't tell me you're one of those dudes. Do dumb shit and get made fun of lmao, these teases are the wars y'all talk about

[@kuragedaisuki244]

It’s absolutely mind blowing that we live in a world where this really happens and is successful.

[@ren2871]

Yes and you'd be surprised this happens across the board. Most people are stupid and easy to manipulate.

[@dorkydragon5055]

Is it really that surprising though? Really?

[@lifeiswonderful22]

This is what rich people spend their money on when they have everything else in the world.

[@tyronestrydom1]

​@@oz_peter*smegma

[@justaguywithapowerpole]

fianlly soemone big tlaks about the bootcamps its so messed up u pay so much money 3 days of getting screamed at and the only people who have supported it i ncomments are old ass men wh oare like 50 to 60 and are like eyah make these snowflakes strong myeee and i wanna its so weird finally thank you charlie for exposing these rude neeks theyu so much delusional stuff and are rude to so much of the peopel who are being nice i remember one of the dudes was tall and had a long neck and the guy screamed sayign wh yare u holding ur neck huh dont look down at me u rude as5hole reeeee like bro he has a long neck and he is tall bro like waaa they so rude and evil also the mai nguy i na classroom video he said if ur gf or wife makes more money than u u either A get a better job even if udont have the qualifications for it oir B divorce her and leave.....

[@NOLove-e8k]

As a member of the United States Army seeing these clips of getting yelled at really brought me back to my basic training days. Only instead of just being screamed for no reason, it actually served a purpose. We were disciplined through relentless physical and mental training and were ACTUALLY taught how to become a leader. All of it was free as well.

[@weirdo1060]

Basic training also involved learning new skills. This group is not learning weapons, land navigation, first aid, etc. They are simply being harassed.

[@seikuo36]

@@weirdo1060 18k for harassment is kinda wild

[@IvanskiYakinovski]

What men need are friends. What makes friendships are common experiences. Sharing the shame of wasting money to pretend to be a commando with your new bros is priceless.

[@BashaerB-h2c]

Men don't want to put their egos aside to build friendships. Their ego is too big so they thing "Why should I go up to another man and try to get him to like me?". That's what happens when males grow up in a sheltered environment and their ego is never challenged so they think the world should come to them easily. Also, they aren't willing to resolve conflict after it happens. I'm talking real conflict not play teasing.

[@danielmorton9956]

Imagine if it was a survival camp or something.

[@Blackelk1996]

What some men need to be strong are other strong men that share common goals and ideals. Iron Sharpens Iron.

[@Drheals-db3pm]

well said

[@thewatcher7940]

@@northstar2850 Not just brotherhood, but they also need to learn to be friends with women and view them as equals like they would their guy friends, instead of just potential partners.

[@colindoyle2598]

Alpha male classes prey on the modern issues that a lot of men experience. They are hilariously goofy, but it's so sad to watch guys throw their money away on things like this

[@DseanSupreme]

HealthygamerGG nailed it when he spoke on this on his channel: men get their struggles and problems dismissed by the media and everyone in general, especially white men. Alpha male targeted businesses are the only places that validate the feelings of men who have it hard, and feel they can't navigate life, so they manage to build a market for it. Unfortunately, they just offer snake oil with tidbits of actually helpful advice and fleece the money and support out of them.

[@tombowombo-]

It seems like these "instructors" watched some bud/s training documentaries and are trying to copy it.

[@LuisSierra42]

@@tombowombo- Honestly, this looks a lot like Fight Club

[@ianmaidment2258]

Not confident in your woman abusing, you need this

[@thecommandant2831]

@SyakirinTheStickMan Ok. So, you have to go to bigger creator to advertise shit?

[@goopbloop8823]

I feel so bad for these guys. You've got to have some next-level deep-seeded issues to go into a program like this. Wish them the best to get the help they need. Also, screw everyone on board doing this thing that's got to project their insecurities and be total gross weirdos just to exploit vulnerable men. Absolutely disgusting

[@daslynnter9841]

I would feel bad if this was a cheap thing that targeted poor people, like the military but without the lifelong perks, or like chiropracty, or churches. But these guys have $18,000 to throw away. Let them throw it away and let some guy who wouldn't have that money otherwise beat the shit out of them for 3 days. The assailant here could make this available to everyone and he'd make more money. He's choosing to target a demographic: rich people. Specifically rich people who feel like they need to prove themselves but are too scared to actually do anything. I hope the best for him.

[@friend2194]

​@@daslynnter9841Now imagine some of these dudes are fatherless, flipping burger at MCD for a living and it's pretty much their life saving. Suddenly these people don't deserve to be kicked anymore right? I dont deny there are some stupid extreme incels who are actively seeking an echo chamber in this crowd, but it's easier to lump they all together to a crowd that's we can hate. And why does wealth make this exploitative situation less sad?

[@aw2584]

Or they have a homosexual humiliation fetish but are deep in the closet lmao

[@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese]

@@daslynnter9841 The military pays you, not the other way around, and you get experience that's actually useful in society. Basic and 4+ years as a Supply Corps Officer is infinitely more valuable than this nonsense

[@littlegiantj8761]

​@@friend2194because "rich people bad, hate those above you, they aren't hooman and should be on the dinner table"

[@wisdomwendigo]

I just graduated from Marine bootcamp and I can say that I hate the idea of this project with a passion. This project has you pay to suffer whereas in bootcamp, you suffer to get paid. There is literally nothing to gain from this other than low-self esteem, bankruptcy, and a miserable public image. The transformation from civilian to Marine is hard to explain for me, personally, but bootcamp teaches you to appreciate the shit that you take for granted, to struggle through the physical and mental turmoil, to help your fellow recruits/Marines/teammates/etc., to be more courteous, and to be the best version of yourself. Alpha Male Bootcamp vs Marine Corps bootcamp is a fucking joke. Marine Bootcamp wins, easily

[@Shoxic666]

Plus paying to suffer is weird and feels like a kink, suffering to pay is just what most guys gotta do.

[@Based_location]

I leave March 12th goddamn I’m gonna love being a marine

[@wisdomwendigo]

@@Based_location You won't regret it in the long run. It will suck, but at the end of the day it'll be second-hand fun, you'll see

[@Based_location]

@@wisdomwendigo Rah and at age 20

[@SamuelDiaz21]

@@Based_locationI don’t regret serving in the Corps. It definitely helped me become the man I am today and I’m exponentially better for having served. With that said, there were many days that I did NOT love being a Marine 😂 however, I don’t regret the decision at all! Semper Fi brother and best of luck to you and your career.

[@JAV82224]

“Just because something is hard, and you do it, doesn’t mean you benefitted from it” actual poet

[@yomuin5389]

But actually though. I fucking hate when old people call themselves "experienced" even if clearly they're as bigoted and narrow-minded as they could've been as a baby. Just because you're old doesn't mean you went through life becoming all that experienced. I often find it quite likely, instead, that they went through life being a bit too set in their ways to become wise. This is kind of the same. People subject themselves to shit they can later flaunt rather than just going through life and being respectful every day.

[@Hanzo2024]

panic in David Goggins noises

[@Sphynra]

"Don’t fall in love with your suffering. Never presume that your suffering is in itself proof of your authenticity." - Zizek

[@Mako-rh6tl]

Trying to think up a dick joke right now

[@layton6202]

@@yomuin5389babies are bigoted and narrow minded?

[@Turglayfopa]

I feel really bad for those who fell for it. They are obviously deep in the pits and are grasping for anything.

[@conehero2941]

Right? It's exploitative as fuck. This is only going to teach them to be more bitter.

[@KnowThyself619]

Well at least they're trying out something new unlike millions who just sit and comment about people doing stuff.

[@explorinjenkins349]

I don't. A fool and his money are soon separated.

[@manformerlypigbukkit]

@@explorinjenkins349well that’s dull

[@conehero2941]

@@explorinjenkins349 Despair will make you do crazy things.

[@flannyfizzle9402]

Someone needs to pull these guys aside and say to them, “You know, if you’re into sadomasochism, you can easily find a dominatrix for way less than $18,000.”

[@gentlesandladymen]

Genuinely someone tell them I think it would help 😭

[@vidmasterK1]

What, have a strong willed woman have power over them? Especially sexually? They'd flip their lip

[@flowerchild8450]

No bro you don’t understand, it’s much more masculine and alpha to have a man do it…..definitely not a gay thing whatsoever

[@CrizzyEyes]

i'm beginning to think these guys all just had abusive fathers and they need someone to yell at them so they can be good again in their mid life crisis

[@dannydanumba]

It seems like these guy prefer a Daddy to do it instead

[@salvatoredanunciacao7770]

These instructors clearly went to BUDS probably washed out or never actually got to operate and are now taking that frustration out on dudes just to make a quick buck.

[@erockromulan9329]

Honey, I just paid $18,000 to become the alpha male in this house. Please don't leave me.

[@mirivmd]

😂😂😂

[@csacascascascas]

First Trump/Crypto Zoo NFTs NOW THIS?!

[@JEvans-wy9ln]

Aint no way any of these guys are actually married and if they were their wives would immediately leave them after hearing where their 18k went

[@totempolejoe1]

Funniest comment here

[@lukaspumo3498]

Wife was probably banging the neighbor while he's at alpha camp lmao

[@ElectricFire9000]

Imagine paying 18,000 to roleplay amateur navy seals

[@ryliebrown5925]

Amateur is a insult to the navy seals that fact this would even be considered related to them on a scale 😂

[@deathbydeviceable]

No, these people paid $18k to be bullied 😂

[@tedragus3351]

Navy Seal training is a much preferable experience then this

[@clonecommandermike332]

Me and my buddies can do it in the woods behind my house for free. And have a lot more fun.

[@solitude4evr]

*prepubescent* navy seals

[@D3P.17]

You really need to interview a guy that actually decided to pay for this using their own money

[@h.t.8812]

Great idea!

[@pattyrik6845]

I’m the VICE Andrew state documentary, all of those customers hid their faces. ALL of them.

[@Aeduo]

Probably wouldn't get much other than meaningless delusion that sadly, many would probably take to heart because of how fucked our culture is.

[@PlasticDoll.]

probably same shit "our society is falling apart, men becoming women blah blah, men should be blah blah, no one helped me blah blah" bs like that

[@ZombieMadeIt]

@@PlasticDoll. they always say that lmao its so predictable its not even super popular for a man to be trans so i dont get why they bring that up

[@rjtalley628]

For $18,000 you could probably get both a gym membership with a personal trainer and a therapist and I bet you’ll still have some cash left over

[@micnorton9487]

EXACTLY 💯, I'd do the therapy first for 10 $150 sessions,, and yeah the personal trainer would cost the most but one could probably find a good one for $500 a day,, that's 16 five left SO 30 straight days of personal training and the rest for the gym membership AND maybe some grapefruit sodas or something and the results would be PHENOMENAL compared to wasting $18,000 with this goober for 3 days.....

[@hug-the-raccoon]

Charlie, you need to make your own bootcamp and make us the alpha we're meant to be.

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

Don't be an alpha. Be a real man.

[@KennethEnders]

@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639yeah… a smigma male😎

[@_KnownUnknown_]

​@@KennethEnderssmegma male 🤤

[@KaroxNightshade]

@@_KnownUnknown_ Dawg, no. Wash up.

[@FetusDeletus_E]

​​@@_KnownUnknown_yes please 🤤🤤

[@fomorians]

"Don’t give yourselves to brutes, men who despise you, enslave you, who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think and what to feel. Who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder. Don’t give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts. You don’t hate. Only the unloved hate - the unloved and the unnatural." - Charlie Chaplin

[@crono3339]

Thanks for the reminder of that talk, I used to listen to it often until it made me cry. I was a former soldier and then a psychedelic dude so I'm much more into love and growth but both helped me see how people are easily led astray by con artists. I was too. Charlie Chaplin really had something important to say there.

[@clairecordell2461]

Men care about other men - they have love in thier hearts for men, women and children. Men love and protect. That'll be 18grand please.

[@manden6652]

That's a really funny take with the machines xDDD@@TheNickkm

[@Twiztactix]

Charlie Copelin

[@exorchili7121]

"I'm able to pay but I never want a triumph at any price, I never want someone's chest lying under my foot" -Viktor Tsoi

[@thevagabond3181]

Wait. You mean I can pay a bunch of grifters to bully and emasculate me? How have my enemies hidden this gem from me?!

[@Shigzmi]

@SyakirinTheStickManbro you’re pathetic

[@TheBlahblah86]

I love your use of the word emasculate in this example. It's so perfect.

[@eileenwellings]

Love natural immunity to bs

[@redryan20000]

The way they said "yes instructor" was so ironically fucking submissive it's downright sad.

[@xdashx4962]

I love the quote “What happens if your wife or kids needs you” well for starters $18,000 would go a long way

[@JesseVenturaHat]

Seriously wtf 😂

[@ItsWesels]

It's like basic training but you lose 18,000 dollars and you don't get anything out of it except humiliation

[@richXPT707]

The thing that kept me through basic training was the shame i would have felt from quitting. I suppose pissing away $18k is just as embarrassing...

[@chimpanzinc1790]

i hope you are okay my dude

[@icxyz492spiltz3]

hope ur doing well. Learn not to do shyt like that again.

[@richXPT707]

@@icxyz492spiltz3 It was 2008, a different time...

[@tsunamipapi222]

⁠@@icxyz492spiltz3I think he meant basic training in the military

[@MoralesCorner]

Much worse

[@dexterslaboratory2404]

This is the Same place where in the video the instructor says this is nothing personal and then gets personal

[@_marou_]

Wanna be an alpha? Just ignore these sad "alpha" men that needs to say they're alphas just to elevate their self esteem and there you go!

[@Gulyus]

@@zogwort1522 the point is that "alpha males" don't actually exist. It is actually a confidence thing - having the confidence in yourself to be someone. To have meaning. That is what they are pretending to give these men.

[@dalton9493]

​@@zogwort1522thats right. You can only be alpha when you start adding gorilla meat to your diet.

[@thekingofprotoss4376]

that alone dont make you alpha, the term alpha basically means leader. just take charge of your life and youll be a leader of something even if it aint of other folks

[@Snomrade]

I don’t want to be an alpha because of how notoriously buggy they are

[@janky477]

Ironic truth? This actually worked for me.

[@lubtv8792]

Damn, I got to experience this shit for 12 years from my step dad. I must be king alpha male with all the trauma I got.

[@DumplingDoodle]

Right? The years of bullying and emotional abuse from peers and family must’ve made me a fucking gigachad. Vaguely related: believe it or not, there is actually some link between childhood stress and physical maturity. Observable in city kids vs country kids, minor environmental stressors throughout childhood lead city kids to develop and grow slightly faster. Something to do with the endocrine system working harder and more growth hormone being produced, can’t recall the details atm.

[@doomstan]

I like how the logic is "we're gonna cure your trauma with more trauma"

[@lubtv8792]

@@doomstan it’s weird cause it’s almost getting the point of what I actually believe helps. Exposure. But this isn’t exposing traumatized men to their triggers and helping them redirect their feelings or even process them. It’s just some dude adding some more trauma into whatever you already had. Unless your fear is joining the military in the 50’s then I don’t get what the point is.

[@marhen4497]

Wait til he shows you the bill for those 12 years. Beeing an alpha male doesn't come cheap

[@Sumirevins]

The 13 years of bullying and getting yelled at trauma must've made me into a fucking sigma dripking by that logic. Nah but that tramas has made me mentally fortified atleast.

[@theantitroll]

“Being uncomfortable just for the sake of being uncomfortable doesn’t improve you’re life.” I want that shit written on my tomb stone

[@jotade2098]

But engrave "your".

[@massojupiter3436]

Discomfort teaches you about yourself and someone can use that to better their life. So that quote is lying

[@crowdemon_archives]

​@@massojupiter3436no, that's "learning from discomfort", not "discomfort just for discomfort"

[@massojupiter3436]

@@crowdemon_archives but that goes without saying. The human mind is always on learning mode whether someone likes it or not. Doesn't matter what it is that you do, even if you're on your phone just for being on your phone, you will still learn something. I just learned that this type of thing (alpha male bootcamp) is real and I'm on my phone just because

[@bradygd6431]

@@massojupiter3436 if you go stub your toe on purpose right now I doubt you'll learn a valuable life lesson from it

[@THEmfGOBLIN]

18k for an unregulated military bootcamp

[@weirdo1060]

A real military boot camp also teaches combat skills (Weapons, first aid, etc). Trainees get paid instead of paying others.

[@ivansyomkin2156]

I did this in the army while getting paid and I still hated it 😂

[@internalizedhappyness9774]

You made me laugh, thank you! 😋

[@N_0_S_t_al_gicben-zo]

You got buried in a bodybag?

[@dragoon9382]

@@N_0_S_t_al_gicben-zo yes

[@livewire42]

That's exactly what I thought watching this... this is the shit we did in bootcamp except they gave us a few bucks while doing it. At least in the military, you were probably going to go to war instead of paying 18k to pretend lmao

[@Ameritard]

Same, did this in the Marines and got paid what, like 3 or 4k?

[@dwightross1694]

To me most people miss what it means to be a man. It’s not being about super tough. There will always be someone or something tougher than you. What makes you a man is standing for you values and what you believe in. Id rather have someone brave on my side than someone who’s just tough.

[@thekingofprotoss4376]

dude my pops always taught me being a man was taking charge of your own life and pulling the strength out of yourself to make the hard decisions that are best for you. thats what makes a man super tough right there, not getting fat biceps and thinking you can beat somebody's ass that just makes you a little cunt

[@ytsuxmuhd4998]

I want the guy who's both on my team. Need someone who's either on your level, or gonna balance you out.

[@datdailykid7512]

How are you going to be brave and not tough and vice versa

[@emiami458]

Actually what makes someone a man is purely biological and a classification, that's it.

[@coolkid7151]

I think both are important

[@kingghidorah8106]

as Ben the Bull once said: A strong man stands for himself. The stronger man stands for everyone. Being a bully doesn't make you an alpha, paying to be bullied, even less.

[@BakeBMDeezy]

Reminds me of a meme that read "I ordered a book called 'How to scam people' 3 months ago and it never shipped".

[@JJMcCullough]

What these guys need is some sort of bootcamp to teach them how to identify scams. That’s really the biggest problem with men of this sort these days, their extreme credulousness towards any get-rich/get-tough quick scheme and/or conspiracy theory.

[@themcpingu780]

I remember you talked about this in a video you made a few years back, sad to see stuff like this is still prevalent

[@lookissjaxin]

🤣🤣🤣 Absolutely 👍🏻

[@IRateVideosInTheComments]

Damn bro 17 years on here? Nice.

[@biggieschalls1823]

I can offer that service for $1,500 a pop. The first lesson would just be me saying, "This."

[@Random-sk6hm]

Fr the amount of crypto scam ads nowsaday is ridiculous

[@skdfd494]

We need charlie to make a "moist camp" so we can all be moisty males.

[@sgodekili7992]

Now that’s something I’d pay $18,000 for

[@mcruz604]

He already provides this service for free. Arent all Charlie enjoyers Moisty males?

[@592GM]

If there was a moist camp, pretty sure you wouldn't last an hour there

[@Mrtfarrugia]

Well he does live in Florida so being a moisty male would just include "go outside for 20 minutes."

[@mrmonteX1]

what's a moisty male?

[@anon24423]

I like how they blatantly advertise that their trainers are very rich on a course that is this expensive. They're literally telling their participants that they are getting cleaned out and still people give them their money. That's a level of genius beyond my comprehension.

[@Chazb369]

Classic sales shit they use their own profit as results to swindle people into believing that if they pay to get hazed for a few days they’ll be mentally strong enough to make millions themselves. Usually by giving less fucks and lowering their morals to also charge high prices of stupid shit and then build a hardcore sales team to sell tf out of their service or product. These programs are gay af tbh all my friends are military some special operations they feel bad for these “customers” of the programs. There’s also a lot of SEALs and other guys who run REAL programs that actually teach you skills like surviving in the woods tactical training shit like that. You know useful stuff. These gay ones are literally just a simulated bootcamp it’s weird af.

[@dohboy88]

This comment is basically it. They are not so subtlety advertising themselves as the "alpha" males taking advantage of the weak. And they expect the weak to pay $18K for the experience because merely being lorded over by such alpha men is worth the price of admission. It's hard to describe this because it's not even reverse psychology. It's something weirder, but obviously it works because people have paid for it.

[@ShoutoutbarrnoneAkaGFC]

Yeah if I wanted to be beaten I would’ve did black face .

[@MatthewRoux-nw9ve]

It’s really the fault of the people who pay

[@mathiasbartl903]

Prosperity gospel preachers, Trump f e

[@Ginger-.._]

18k to pretend to be Mark Wahlberg in Lone Survivor

[@CarlosRodriguez-c9y]

So let me get this straight. You pay 18k to go to military bootcamp for 3days. Guys its called the army and you can join for free. Its just that you can't leave after 3 days and if you do pull threw you are guaranteed to see results.

[@kameronjones7139]

And you will get paid

[@Eldritch-1]

Youre assuming the army would want these rejects ,the standards are pretty low in the US but I think these guys wouldnt meet any.

[@fpedrosa2076]

@@Eldritch-1 The US army is not really in a position to reject recruits. Of course, on the other hand the army is pretty good at putting new recruits through the ringer and turning them into soldiers... Y'know. Some get permanently hurt or die along the way, but that's a sacrifice the army instructors are willing to make.

[@bingbongdingdong867]

You're not guaranteed to see results.

[@ThePhrog714]

@@fpedrosa2076wym pretty much nobody is dying in basic army training unless it’s a freak accident

[@shelseamonet4718]

So I actually met someone who did this camp, and tried to convince my boss to go, we looked it up and started immediately laughing, we couldn't believe this successful grown ass man had joined this ludicrous camp. My boss said that made him feel sorry for the dude because he must really be broken to fall for this. He spoke so highly of the place like saying it saved his life! So now I just pity guys who sign up for things like this, for them this is their therapy I guess

[@Cybersawz]

Of course he's selling it, he gets a cut for each referral.

[@myrixica4222]

@@Cybersawz omg these arsewipes turned bootcamp into an MLM

[@imdfox1774]

I mean it’s basic sunk cost fallacy, they believe it works BECAUSE they sunk nearly 20k into it.

[@ADollarMight]

So your solution to finding out someone is broken and was at a point so low that this might have saved their life and you and your bosses first idea was to laugh. That’s why guys like these still exist. You just laugh. Everyone laughs at these guys and just yells “be better” We hate on the red pill people but they aren’t laughing at them. Until you find a better solution to help these men, it’s better you don’t say anything tbh

[@matthewcurry3565]

​@@ADollarMightFair point, but no amount of kindness will change the fact that humans are multipersonality zombies. You boost someone like that up for 10 seconds and they go into the other extreme, and believe they have become a god. Humans are merely a self indulging disease that does anything to eat more. You have no escape, and kindness will not save you at this point.

[@RtsFps1]

This is what happens when you are alone in the dark for a long time. A lot of us came back from it and took the right path. These men took every possible wrong turn and it’s depressing to see them fall into these false ‘brotherhood.’

[@friend2194]

Yeah it's easy to laugh at them and feel superior than showing empathy, like a lot usually preach. Ngl some of these crowd may be actual extremist incels seeking echo chamber but most of them are just lost. Maybe a bit of both would be better lmao

[@philsonhtc2871]

​@@friend2194"extremist incels" what does that even mean bro?

[@Dipj01]

​@@philsonhtc2871it means exactly what you read

[@justhellbound4206]

They have these types of camps for young boys too.

[@EpictheEpicest]

"Every possible wrong turn" would lead to death, poverty or prison for life. You need to have taken some right turns if there's $20k burning a hole in your pocket. These are just wealthy men (or wealthy family) clueless enough to fall for an obvious con. A fool and his money are soon parted.

[@instagramcraker3816]

Please leave your mic on more often. The giggles were gold.😂

[@MoA-Reload...]

This is genius. School yard bullies used to have to gamble if their victim actually has enough money in their pockets. Now they get the victim to hand the money over in advance and then STILL get their rocks off bullying their victim to innflate their little ego and cover their own insecurity 😂

[@zippedmouthgaming5637]

Oh yeah, it was a huge thing when I was growing up. The "bully friend." The guy who does awful stuff and then says "I'm just doing this to make you prepared for the real world."

[@MoA-Reload...]

@@zippedmouthgaming5637 so next level genius bullies? Convince the victim it's for their own benifit to reduce risk of that person turning round one day and laying them out AND make sure they're loaded before wasting time on empty pockets. Also the "bully friend" is a thing. Dangerous, manipulative little smegs too and far harder to spot than the stereotypical tough kid. Instead of beating 7 bells of crap out of someone, they'll go after the self esteem and confidence in the same way as abusive partners/spouses do. Humans are basically arseholes, even the little humans.

[@415-k1ub]

Advertising itself as something that can heal trauma is such a vile thing to do. Even worse, these kinds of bootcamps are likely to worsen the mental health of their participants by teaching them to: - never reach for help (except when it comes to giving the organisers money) - ignore their own needs (like signs of dehydration and hypothermia) - be constantly paranoid about things that can klll them and their families - use pain as a measure of manliness

[@TADCSVCKS]

Didn't ask. My content is superior 🎉

[@jaydenm7460]

@OfficerBMT sO eDgEY BrUhHhHh

[@AnonMouse-eo4of]

Weak man😂😂😂😂😂

[@TimothyCHenderson]

Another issue is by promote aggression and dominance seeking behaviour, they're setting these men up for a life time of hostility from others and hyper vigilance. People who treat others like garbage end up with targets on their backs and will open themselves up to a life time of retaliation, scheming and broken relationships.

[@funnyguppygaming2012]

So basically just like the military

[@Logger1010]

if you feel like you have to go to an Alpha Male bootcamp then you have already failed

[@warlordofbritannia]

That’s kinda the point, isn’t it? If these poor suckers ever became secure, then the grifters wouldn’t be able to milk them any further

[@FirstLast-yr9kx]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@glitchmob1497]

@OfficerBMT tf?!

[@Bhamofficer328]

😂😂😂😂

[@Bhamofficer328]

@@glitchmob1497His profile says UTUBETROLLPOLICE so he’s a troll.

[@LucresntBlade]

Dominatrixes are prolly a better use of funds

[@mrnonsense1031]

And a hell of a lot cheaper.

[@dxrthlaw8937]

​and a hell of a lot more fun.

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Trueeee

[@wolfetteplays8894]

@@dxrthlaw8937 Yep, and at least some of them may take care of you, at some point or another.

[@chroniccomplainer3792]

Charlie hit the nail on the head. The true disgusting part is taking advantage of desperate men. Most need a therapy session or two, but instead they think this type of shit is more acceptable. Bad decisions all around but the "leaders" are scamming vulnerable people.

[@quekumber]

The main guy, Bedros, who started all of this, actively supports therapy. He has said numerous times it was the main thing that helped him push past some behaviors that stemmed from previous childhood trauma fyi

[@BecksPatryk]

therapy would be so much cheaper than this tbh

[@chroniccomplainer3792]

@@quekumber so he knows what really works and still takes the money? Or is he delusional to think he methods also have merit? Idk, that info doesn't change much in my mind

[@Jabrownie23]

@@chroniccomplainer3792 He's either A) heartless con-man taking advantage of those that face the same hardships he once did or B) a mentally ill patient that went off the rails, stopped taking his medicine and started being led by his own delusions.

[@reddytoplay9188]

​@@quekumberjust makes him worse. He knows what needs to be done but decides to scam them.

[@Grey.Agent00]

The funniest thing is that even if you buy into the "alpha male" philosophy spreading around these days these courses teach the furthest thing from it. The idea of the alpha male is that they are generally the leader, the trendsetter and they usually project an aura of confidence, this conditioning these men are paying for is not going to amplify these traits, in fact it is going to do the opposite, this sort of conditioning is what the army uses to break down soldiers and make them more subservient to the chain of command, it is not supposed to build confidence but rather strip you of it so that they can build you back up as an obedient member of a unit, only after that will they consider putting you on a training path for a leadership role. All these chuckleheads are doing is the part where they try to break you down and making you pay for the privilege, paying for and going along with this course and serves as proof of how much of a beta male you are and I am not saying this as some sort of zing or attempted insult, going through with this course and putting up with the bullshit of the "instructors" is what by their very own definition a beta male would do.

[@caterkillathrilla5773]

Well said!

[@happilyisolated]

Perfectly said.

[@justaguywithapowerpole]

fianlly soemone big tlaks about the bootcamps its so messed up u pay so much money 3 days of getting screamed at and the only people who have supported it i ncomments are old ass men wh oare like 50 to 60 and are like eyah make these snowflakes strong myeee and i wanna its so weird finally thank you charlie for exposing these rude neeks theyu so much delusional stuff and are rude to so much of the peopel who are being nice i remember one of the dudes was tall and had a long neck and the guy screamed sayign wh yare u holding ur neck huh dont look down at me u rude as5hole reeeee like bro he has a long neck and he is tall bro like waaa they so rude and evil also the mai nguy i na classroom video he said if ur gf or wife makes more money than u u either A get a better job even if udont have the qualifications for it oir B divorce her and leave.....

[@hic_tus]

pardon me but from an european point of view all of that looks soo american, no offence. the alpha male thing, the scam, even the idea of a paid self-improvement pseudo-military class... in the old world we just go see a psychologist if we have a rough moment. if you have 18k in your bank account to waste in that shit, you are not in big troubles are you? just see a professional, you can afford that. in most countries here the idea of an alpha male that provides and defends and shoots the bad guys is so old fashioned it's not even funny. of course that doesn't mean you get to be a usless parasite, don't get me wrong. but at least, in most cases, we don't blame single mothers and we don't mix the army with our daily lives. that's a very american issue, in my opinion. that kind of stuff creates mental health issues, makes men violent and complete Aholes. insufferable pretentious douchebags. i usually avoid that kind of people like the plague.

[@choccolocco]

100%

[@History_Coffee]

This has big "I would join the military but if a drill sgt got in my face I'd knock him out" energy

[@razzberry4756]

id get kicked out of the military very quickly, i fucking hate screaming, id probably tell the drill instructor to go fuck himself, then just refuse any punishment he gave me, wanna scream in my face, fuck you, again, they’d definitely kick me out but i don’t care

[@captainmycaptain8334]

careful, the cosplaytriots will hear you

[@flipperbooch2194]

I heard of a USMC recruit that did that and got his face slammed on the hot hood of the MP’s squad car. You won’t win

[@StereotypicalShea]

I think it's an even larger concern when you realize all the instructors are not only prior service, but prior special operators just as well.

[@Julian-4]

@@StereotypicalSheaGuaranteed some of them are lying about it. And they’d fold if they were led by a cadre of Navy Seal operators. These “instructors” look like overcompensating douch*canoes

[@duonghoangminh258]

You know what else isn't easy? Not laughing while Charlie is laughing about the "significance" of the dash

[@kittenbolt5399]

As someone who is actively managing my trauma related to being yelled at irrationally growing up and gets startled by loud sounds, that certainly did heal my trauma

[@kooI-aiddealer]

Ok

[@Us3r739]

Ok

[@Flightsuit]

❤❤props to you.

[@The_world_is_not_worthy_of_Him]

imagine thinking you're traumatized because someone spoke loudly at you lmaoooooooooooooooo you're the perfect fit for that loser squad

[@AyanokoujiSama]

I'm confused, can't they accomplish the same thing as this by enlisting in the military (and even save a few doubloons on top of that)?

[@kooI-aiddealer]

They are marketing towards insecure men, they wouldn't have join it if it didn't have alpha male in its name

[@darthvaydor6716]

These are weak pathetic “men” they don’t actually want to put in the work of real bootcamp or just simply facing there problems they want an easy way in the form of three days of laying on the ground. They want improvement without working for it and that’s why this exists

[@massojupiter3436]

They looking for shortcuts. Military basic training/bootcamp is about 2 and a half month long. The thing they joined is 3 days long. On top of that after bootcamp you can't just go home, you go to school where they'll teach you the skills necessary to perform your duty while in the army/airforce/marines etc and then after you learn the skills, you go to your station where you will perform your job until you complete the length of your contract.

[@Jairjax]

@@massojupiter3436 Pretty much yeah. It's a lack of commitment. Considering the cost, I'd wager that money is not the issue for these men. They probably are already in a spot in their lives where they can afford to spend money on something this dumb. What they really lack is just confidence. It's pretty sad seeing them get taken advantaged of this badly honestly. Not that they themselves are not to blame at all. Only a complete moron wouldn't be able to see that the masculinity bootcamp is a scam.

[@cgme9535]

That’s what I’m saying. Why don’t they just join the military?

[@AlexM-oq5el]

There's definitely an underlying cultural issue here that needs to be addressed. I hope these guys overcome the cringe of ever being part of this and actually become the men they want to be someday.

[@antibull4869]

It’s happening to largely white guys so you will never hear about it in the main media.

[@airraverstaz]

If they have 18k to legitimately waste, I don't see what more they could've wanted. Granted there's more to life than money, but that's certainly a nice chunk out of the way. They probably would've benefited way more from some actual therapy to just accept themselves.

[@LordOfOlympus]

@@airraverstaz honestly i have a feeling a LOT of them are on personal loans that was probably suggested by the alpha male boot camp people who get kick backs from the independent lenders that approve said loans

[@ougaouga1]

@TreyMM-qz4wg absolutely not, see its simple: any man including redditors that are assertive enough to criticize is more alpha than paying to be humiliated which is the lowest of the low. being paid to be yelled at like in the army is okay because its an exchange (money to follow orders, in a larger goal that resonate with their values) These are emasculated unassertive men, come on dont you see it? the only reaction to being yelled at by a goofball should be to recognize that you are being yelled at by a goofball and stop being yelled at right the second it starts, assert yourself and go home. And they pay to be humiliated and emasculated, redditors, as unmanly as they can be are more manly than that.

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

@TreyMM-qz4wg Nah. That's how bad this is - literal neck beards are more in touch with who they are as people and more likely to be fine with that. These guys are in a spiraling self worth/identity crisis and paying out the nose to feel like they matter. This is a grift and you can't convince me there's any positive backing it.

[@styx953]

Feel like they took only the breaking down part of army training and forgot to add the building up part, also you don't get paid for being there and it cost 18k. Join the army instead.

[@anthonyjames4319]

Imagine paying 18k and saying “yes instructor” to some dude yelling at you.

[@Bloodfencer1990]

Imagine if at the end of the program they lined you all up and told you you failed the course because not a single person stood up to them like a real man, and then they force you to retake it and pay double.

[@Blaze016]

Oh god, that's harsh... and hilarious! 🤣

[@peterswires8439]

It would be even funnier if at the end of the course, the instructor says to them, "When you get home, I want you all to go to your computers and Google the name Stanley Milgram".

[@skeletonbuyingpealts7134]

If only

[@a_randomuser4]

That would be hilarious. Deserved too. Would be even funnier if they said you failed the moment you payed for the program.

[@remyhavoc4463]

if that happens I'd be surprised if nobody pulls a quiet kid and start blasting or something 😂 no man should ever let that slide (I mean, no man should ever enter this kind of thing anyways)

[@Soda_EditsFr]

Just enlist into the army if you want to be yelled at 💀

[@weirdo1060]

Army boot camp will also teach skills (e.g. weapons, land navigation, first aid, etc) while being paid. MDK is just about paying others to harass you.

[@fdookie117]

to get YELLED at join marines, to get called mean names join army

[@Gepeto8779]

I’d love to meet someone who actually takes the alpha male stuff seriously, it would be like watching National Geographic 😂

[@fluidthought42]

I'm pretty sure that Tucker Carlson made a documentary about that... unironically?

[@sawyerweathers8713]

I think paying this amount of money to become an “alpha male” is ridiculous, but I genuinely think thriving every day to be a better and stronger man is something all men should do. Maybe that’s just me.

[@Gepeto8779]

@SyakirinTheStickMan weird flex bro 💀

[@the_rising_king8485]

My manager at my first job bought into all that lol Outta nowhere he started explaining what an alpha/beta male was and I swear this dude had to have been roasting me bc when he described beta males it sounded 1:1 exactly like me 🗿🗿🗿

[@Gepeto8779]

@@sawyerweathers8713 i feel like striving to be better and stronger is something everyone should do regardless of gender

[@cank7057]

That post nut clarity is gonna hit them hard when they’re back home in the same place, doing the same shit, feeling the same and realizing they just threw 18k away on a bs wannabe navy seal program 💀

[@desertdude8274]

Guess they can join the military to pay off the debt. They do the same thing in boot camp kinda. They do this kinda thing at the seal boot camp. I kinda wish they teach more useful things at boot camp but whatever.

[@Mana_Sun]

At that point their ending their life. And I say they deserve it. Fuck em.

[@Ohnoitsthatguy-620]

Never underestimate the ability of a Navy SEAL to cash in on being a Navy SEAL.

[@hypsin]

Never underestimate the ability of someone claiming to be a Navy SEAL to cash in on claiming to be a Navy SEAL

[@joshmacattack3328]

Sael

[@Xan1011]

Spheal

[@eduardopereira6698]

Sil

[@acuilnos]

Sail

[@ArnovanWyk-q2j]

wow those healing words at 04:00 from the bearded dwarf looking guy totally convinced me. . . how are they affording the actual cast from the extended Lord of the Rings movies?

[@riverrile]

Last I heard, these boot camps were also accepting children to "provide a great father-son bonding experience." 'cause nothing brings parents closer to their children like traumatizing the crap out of them. -_-

[@wontonschannel]

if you genuinely think there's no difference between the child and adult versions then why do you think they're even separated in the first place. chances are it's much more watered down (not that im defending the camp, if u feel like u need this just join the military instead)

[@pro-choicemom]

Any mother that allows that is a pathetic doormat.

[@tewkie7955]

@@wontonschannelthe only difference is its a kid with their parents

[@seanmessick9330]

@@wontonschannelhehehe watered down

[@wontonschannel]

@@tewkie7955 I’m willing to bet real green money that they treat the participants differently when they’re with their children, even if they don’t outright say it. I REALLY would love to see the video of that guy screaming “SHUT THE FUCK UP!” to a 7 year old though

[@lordchaa1598]

So a group of bullies have found a way to monetize the bullying of insecure men. How revolutionary😂

[@kooI-aiddealer]

These insecure men do deserve to be ridiculed for even deciding to spend 18,000 over a watered down military boot camp

[@2bb334]

putting it this way just deepens my empathy towards these men that got shamelessly exploited. what a f-ed up world we live in

[@abeldnite]

Big brain move if you ask me

[@hepkil8370]

looks like they watched one minute of a david goggins vid

[@tobiasgretenkort463]

I love to imagine how their whole shit would crumble if you just burst out in laughter at the silliness of the whole situation

[@imorccUO]

🤣

[@Brotha00]

I love to imagine the wives getting blacked while these bums are at camp 😂

[@JussyWussy]

how often do you imagine?

[@Strings-jg2to]

I thought I was going to laugh in Marine bootcamp but not even a little. Lol

[@AnthonyLopez-ne8eg]

@@JussyWussyhe imagined it at least once in the last 6 day, could be more tho not sure

[@Idk-wg9gl]

Anyone who refers to themself an "alpha male" or "sigma male" is even sadder than them tbh

[@Whyareuhere_1847]

Fr tho

[@RealOkverty]

no it just means that they are more discipline you

[@MasterCat8533]

@OfficerBMTwho asked for your input?

[@turboshazed7370]

​@@RealOkvertythat's not gonna convince anyone goober

[@snuffle2405]

That's why I'm a gamma male 💜