The Mechanics of Softlocking Every Mario Party for N64

[@Pikasprey]

This was a cool video, man. I'm definitely also interested in seeing how mini-game mechanics work in the Gamecube games.

[@Snooplax]

Thank you, your softlocking Pokemon series definatly inspired this video!

[@sojjjer]

i feel like “soft locks Mario party” is the equivalent to stryders “crashes paper Mario” for this channel

[@Melecie]

softlocking mario party crashes paper mario

[@DonkeykongSw2]

Or softlocking Paper Mario crashes Mario Parties.

[@zacharyjohnson9562]

SoaPuffball this joke gives me life

[@had0j]

Mario Party Existing Crashes Paper Mario (ft. Stryder7x)

[@rdococ]

You feel like? Please tell me what else you "feel like" is true!

[@RickRaptor105]

"How to make your friends hate your Mario Party session even more"

[@Adusakful]

13:34 "How do you softlock Mario Party?!" Snooplax: "Here's a lil lesson in trickery!"

[@quaffie]

this is going down in history

[@June-413]

If you want to be a villian number one...

[@austinreavis4226]

You have to chase a superhero on the run!

[@dnr-vs1lk]

Creeper

[@Adusakful]

@@dnr-vs1lk no

[@TheAdvocate11]

**Yoshi sees Mario floating** Yoshi: “ight imma head out”

[@caracalcontinuum3118]

Yoshi is no longer needed

[@papersonic9941]

The takeaway from this video is: always use the "save every turn" function

[@steeltalon937]

Federico Porcel unless you want your friends to softlock you on the last turn

[@downthecrop]

That airshock22 clip was crazy!

[@SirCorvid]

Why did they give different behaviors to each minigame when it comes to ending timers and mechanics? I guess every minigame is coded separately, but it would've been a lot more time-efficient to copy-paste the same code for all of them...

[@edfreak9001]

could be early installment weirdness, some of them they just likely didn't want people being able to hinder their teammates or whatever, there's probably reasoning for some of it if you sat down and examined every case like that'd have had to.

[@Zalied]

probably coded for 2 outcomes. end immediately or let the players reset for show. this works just fine allowing games you dont need character resets to end faster but they realized some games could be softlocks so they coded in the timer after only wasting time to add it to levels they thought might be an issue.

[@darkestccino5405]

Programmers don't often copy-and-paste large swathes of information. They write a script for a process once, and then add coding in a lot of places for that script to be activated. That way if the process needs to be edited, only the single script needs to be edited and you don't need to locate every since time it was copied to edit that part.

[@SirCorvid]

@@darkestccino5405 Thank you. I meant to say "reuse" rather than "copy-paste".

[@fireblossom9618]

@@SirCorvid What's the difference?

[@Slyshi]

Airshock: "How do you softlock Mario Party?!" Snooplax: "Allow me to introduce myself."

[@Timehero88]

The guy in that clip was not chrism lol

[@Slyshi]

Ah oops my brain kinda shat itself on that one. I just knew Chrism did Mario Party Speedruns which is why it came to mind.

[@markymark443]

I love how in the Bash n Cash clip Mario just casually no-clip floats himself out of reality in the most smug way possible.

[@tanookijumpman1139]

I know this is a softlock Mario Party video but will you do a video on Mario Party game crashes? One game crash happens in Mario Party 1 with Key pa way if you time either your key pass or open the door when the timer hits exactly zero. I thought that tidbit might help for your next video.

[@Yntec]

Wow, I just remembered that when I was little I used to make Mario Kart 64 crash. It used to involve Battle mode 2 players, Toad, Wario, Block Fort, and Wario doing a Rocket Start, hitting Toad three times without touching the stick, making it lose its three balloons, then instead of game results appearing the game would crash. Crashing N64 games sounds like a very interesting subject.

[@ddnava96]

@@Yntec. Crashing Paper Mario definitely is very interesting

[@Yntec]

@@ddnava96 I know, right? I never played that game very much, finding Mario RPG on the Snes much superior. I only watched lucahjin's playthrough of the game. And yet I can't stop watching Stryder7x's videos about its exploits. At least it proves the content is very entertaining even if you take nostalgia out of the equation.

[@ddnava96]

@@Yntec. I played Paper Mario because it is a spiritual successor to Mario RPG, and it was… different. Mario RPG was more Epic, while Paper Mario has more charm in a way. They're great games, but nowadays I think Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door (NGC) is the best one so far

[@meta04]

Yntec: A few months ago I repeatedly crashed SM64 by going to a PU on console (in VCutM).

[@Falsekaiba]

Thank you for the list of ways I can force a reset of everyone's last turn

[@FlameLFH]

It's surprising that the devs thought so far ahead that they included a softlock timer. Hudson was incredibly talented.

[@deaththekid922]

4:23 for some reason that made me think "when theres only one good camping spot on a shooter map "

[@antonmcCl]

For Coconut Conk, what if you recreated the trick, but you had the 2 other players blocking the barrel player so then the controlled character cannot hit the barrel player, soft locking the game?

[@steeltalon937]

Good Idea

[@Nicholas_Steel]

The game ends when all 3 characters up top face the camera, I imagine it remains the case when the character in the barrel hasn't been hit. In that clip of the soft-lock somehow Peach was initially prevented from facing the camera, which semi-broke the game.

[@equinox3861]

@@Nicholas_Steel But the only way peach was able to turn around was when hitting waluigi in the barrel. How else can peach face the camera without hitting waluigi?

[@MrMatthias]

My sister and I had a softlock in Grab Bag in Mario Party 2. Wario kept spinning in place after the game ended, and, unlike the example in the video, we waited for 5 minutes or so, and the game never progressed.

[@Interesting_Failure]

I have a thought about the differing softlock timers; is it possible that the timer counts from the start of the minigame and the apparent difference is because different minigames have different regular timers?

[@Nicholas_Steel]

He's counting how long it takes for the Soft-Lock Timer to count down from the moment the mini-game would've ended, not how long the Soft-Lock Timer lasts for (which would require watching the games memory to know when it starts counting)

[@SnaccHBG]

14:50 I think you should look at it from another perspective. Assuming that streamer only "fixed" the softlock by hitting the lone player again... would it not be possibly to truly softlock the game by triggering this player swap glitch but with the other 2 characters blocking the spots needed to hit the player?

[@Nicholas_Steel]

If you don't hit the player in the barrel than the team of 3 will lose. The "soft-lock" isn't a soft lock because you just need to make sure all 3 characters up top face the camera (which the person in the clip took a while to do).

[@Remolizzo]

I love these videos and I can’t wait to see the GameCube Mario party softlocks

[@furgin5203]

I was about to rewatch the original softlock video when I saw this if thats not perfect timing idk what is. Keep up the good work Snoop!

[@fantomp1773]

Wait, but don’t the games that end abruptly have a really low softlock timer?

[@renakunisaki]

What the heck is that Peach glitch though

[@ona512]

Do you think it's directly related to peach as a character model?

[@thatisaduck]

@@ona512 yeah

[@Mr_OrangeYT]

14:04 It looks like it happens cause peach didn't face forward at the end, and he had to do it manually

[@EduardoMielings2]

One softlock per Mario Party game

[@LSuperSonicQ]

Love learning secrets like this! And I haven't played much of the N64 ones so it was extra informative

[@videogameplayer100]

Hey! Thanks for the shoutout at 8:40 man! Glad my video could help you put yours together :)

[@truegamer2097]

8:00 I'm not sure if this applies in Mario Party 2, but in Mario Party 3, I was able to get Wario stuck in the same place in the watering a plant battle game. After about 15 seconds, it played the ending like normal but with Wario in an unintended spot.

[@commanderproton7763]

So my crazy theory on that Coconut Conk nonsense, based on the way it ended, it seems like the game can't end properly unless the three players all face the screen exactly. You'll notice Peach does not face the screen when they hit Waluigi. My only guess is that the developers implemented a failsafe where in the event a CPU player does not face the screen at the end of the game, they gain control of them and can face them towards the screen to end the minigame. That's the only reason I can think of for why they gained control of Peach and why them completely facing the screen ended the minigame.

[@FusionCyborg]

MP1 Softlocked: 1 MP2 Softlocked: 1 MP3 Softlocked: 1

[@johnnythundertherevenger945]

Exist more "Mini Game Ends Abruptly" than "Can Be Softlocked"

[@Malowith]

In the end, isn't 'Minigame ends abruptly' just a softlock timer of 0?

[@FinalFina]

Definitely look forward to see all the gamecube soft locks!

[@Definitely_a_Fox]

I'm not 100% sure if I'm right or wrong here, but the differing results may have been caused because the mini games were coded by small teams that were told to make a few mini games each to help reach a deadline. One team thought it'd be a good idea to add a soft lock timer, one thought it'd probably be a good idea to simply end the games straight away. Maybe the other teams either thought that it couldn't happen, or didn't even know what soft locks were.

[@Snooplax]

yah that's a good theory!

[@nernerman]

That grab bag glitch happened to a buddy, and I recently. it was so captivating, we had to record it with a low end camera, and I had to put it on instagram.

[@UltraVioletLite]

luigi after doing a jump to keep going between the two coffins: [B press on wall collision]

[@domain119_]

13:50 that hurts because he was 27 seconds ahead

[@henke37]

You should add a mark to minigames that tweak the physics when the game ends.

[@ayior]

I legit read "Sock Lofting" at first and I was like what the hell is Sock Lofting

[@normhexter8622]

1:59 Mario: Ight imma head out

[@DeadPanTV]

When the pregnancy test comes and its positive Mario at 1:59

[@Gashnaw]

Key-pa-way Yoshi: my planet needs me

[@spongyoshi]

Amazing video with lots of research, I hope you continue with those types of videos!

[@Lizuma]

I enjoyed learning about these softlocks, I'm excited to see them for the GameCube Mario Parties!

[@karrrisa4558]

The mic audio seems to fluctuate randomly throughout the video, but other than that great job on this one, Pizza Boy.

[@eaglgenes101]

Note to self: put a softlock timer into the end of minigames I make

[@danielschmuckler2481]

I enjoy this video, this kind of thing is addicting to watch. Could you possibly remove some of the silent parts at the end of your lines for future videos? There are many pauses throughout, some several seconds long, like at 2:06. Many audio editing programs can remove empty air automatically.

[@WildCard07]

So all 3 games contain at least 1 mini game that can soft lock the whole game 😂

[@fellout2555]

1:50 eventually, Mario stopped thinking

[@Cristeve]

What about the softlock in Mario Party 2 that i told you in the comments of another video? You can fall out of bounds in the minigame "Grab Bag" if 4 players jump in the same spot

[@NintendoTV64]

One time I actually managed to softlock Mario Party 5's "Fish Upon a Star" minigame, but I have no idea how I did it and I never recorded it, so you'll just have to take my word for it.

[@Kid_Cat64]

That's a GameCube game

[@m.m.2897]

MP3 be like *Ends Abruptly*

[@VoteRPG4President282]

6:46 What if the person holding the bulb was the one bouncing? It would be hard to set up, but if the animation was set to only play on the ground, then it would be a softlock.

[@juuuune]

installing mario party softlocks the very fabric of the universe

[@PokeMaster22222]

3:58 ...Is that Mario Party 1, or MP 3? The dice block threw me off, since I never owned the games.

[@richardgibson8403]

Richard Samuelson don’t know what you’re talking about, but if you mean that you don’t know how to tell which box art is for which game, I’ll help you. They never use the dice block in the logo. Missed opportunity, I know.

[@thinhanh8844]

9:24 the pictrue was start scretch narrowly due to?

[@KoploperMau]

It has been 3 years since this video was posted, but is anything known about the 'control AI player in mini-game ending' part? I'm dying to know how that worked.

[@stephenchase7711]

The creator of the Super Mario Bros. franchise, Shigeru Miyamoto, was born on November 16th, 1952 in Sonobe, Japan, and is currently 67 years old!! lol hahahah

[@ElodieHiras]

Some mini games have softlock timers. Why isn't there a softlock timer on *every* minigame just in case???

[@MemitoBB]

Do you have a Patreon? I'd really like to support the channel, I'm sure I'm not the only one!

[@TheRulerOfOats]

2:06 I think the video began to run its softlock timer.

[@hfplaysrblx6964]

5:32 LOL Mario is beating up /Bouncing on wario so much!

[@PlantedWave5190]

Attention, everyone! The first three Mario Party games are coming to NSO! I wish you best of luck softlocking these versions when they release!

[@link_team3855]

also, from some guys sonic challenge video, theres something else he pretty much found... latte lock. basically because for some reason, he could do literally nothing, either due to challenge or game itself... but because of standing still 5 minutes is a death, you can wait 5 minutes to die (and sip a latte or something) and then be unlocked

[@jarvitz]

As a child in MP2's grab bag I got a mario and a DK stuck on each other (one trying to get to top left and the other trying to get to bottom right) and it softlocked because they could not get in their positions. had to reset.

[@SarahConnor618]

I confirn that wack a plant can be soft lockex (red cathegory) happened to me once.

[@ToastGreeting]

the worst thing thats ever happened is a mario party speedrun getting ruined by an almost softlock

[@theendofit]

I know you know this but just for others being in the other categories does not mean it is 100% impossible to soft lock with said games its just extremely unlikely baring you do something that massively breaks a line of code befor the minigame ends causing the soft lock timer to not even start its count down.

[@AlexGMason]

I'd be curious to know if any of the games get stuck when all players are off the ground. Even though that wouldn't be possible without cheats, it'd be one small bit more info on the game mechanics. Does it sometimes check for all players on the ground and other times just 1 player?

[@Tosmasta00]

Drinking game take a shot each time green category is said.

[@DrActivisionary64]

6:06 yoshi said ight im head out

[@mothhunter2337]

1:58 maybe the wall counted as the ground half way in it

[@mothhunter2337]

Nawwww

[@TaIathar]

Isn't "Mini game ends abruptly" the same as "Contains softlock timer" with a 0 second timer?

[@jazzabighits4473]

4:17 You said "coin block blitz" but meant to say "box mountain mayhem"

[@rocksylvannia9398]

*sees this in my recommended* finally some good fucking recommendations

[@DonYagamoth]

It looked like the coconut hit Waluigi at the same frame it finished the minigame. It might be weirdly precise timing thing like that

[@guilhermehey3736]

I was at horror land and at the results for the first minigame the game seemed that it freezed i was playing as peqch

[@Phantron]

imo you should have put the grabbag minigame in the softlock timer section, just because you couldnt replicate it, that doesnt mean it cant be done, maybe especially with DK being at a certain spot or something... just count the guy's seconds until the timer ends also it hasnt a true softlock so why is it even in the upper section?

[@nicholasp1093]

On "Tidal Toss" would it soft lock if you had someone in the air if they are the last player in the water?

[@eXtremeLink859]

Snooplax time

[@eXtremeLink859]

Hell yeah

[@jseeker1867]

Grab Bayg?

[@nsbss1]

So, it goes in the green category. I what I hear when I listen to this video as background noise.

[@equinox3861]

Long shot but does anyone know of any cheat codes to prevent soft locking in coconut conk and bounce and trounce for mp3?

[@epickduk]

8:44 I can hear Vinny yelling "SPEEEN!"

[@digitalunity]

Grab Bag Donkey Kong: SPEEN

[@kimishou]

Imagine actually attempting to softlock mario party when you start to lose.

[@FiveFoxesInATrenchcoat]

Kimilia Chaotic Evil players be like.

[@SkellySkellingtonReal]

Bruh i did this all the time just to listen to the music longer

[@DiamondYoshi101]

I think I know how the Coconut game’s softlock happens. What if the Coconut hits the player in the barrel the same frame the game ends?

[@theriseofthefreg2687]

So you can only softlock 3 Mario Party minigames? Damn.

[@UltraVioletLite]

silence *peach drops coconut onto waluigi to try to get game working again* [slight silence] FINISH!

[@chadbroski6711]

What’s a hardlock?

[@Zthewise]

from what I've seen you either have to intentionally put yourself in the situation or use outside tools to cheat in order to softlock most of these these mini games.

[@krunkle5136]

Sounds like something someone could do to piss of their friends.

[@eloyrojas698]

Nice

[@deepmind5318]

Softlock and freeze glitches

[@Phantron]

also you forgot to use, or at least show the z axis code use in grabbag.

[@andrewmurphy632]

So in total, you can only softlock 3 of them

[@MaddieKittyTV]

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[@whynotanyting]

Why am I here? I don't have the game, nor do I have friends to play it with.

[@JackBond1234]

Grab bayg

[@anotherhumanbeing3300]

Feels like there are more mini games but okay I believe you