The “Misunderstood” Sequel To Area 51 | Blacksite Retrospective

[@Hiihtopipa]

There was three specops goats but one of them requires such a high clearance level i don't blame you for not noticing him. DO NOT FK WITH THAT GOAT!

[@MrHammers]

He truly is a master of his craft

[@shanedogg209]

i remember really liking this game when it came out. it was before i was tapped into the internet and i didnt read video game magazines so i didnt know what the rest of the world thought lol. i kinda miss those times. now i feel like i know everything about a game 2 years before its released lol

[@MrHammers]

Completely agree! I love tons of "bad" games because I went in with a clean slate and wasn't influenced by KZbin reviewers hahaha

[@Itstwistedroots]

I feel this.

[@turdgoblin6113]

Who cares what the " rest of the world thought" if you like the game, or any other game thats good! Just cause most people don't care for it, doesn't mean you can't like it or even enjoy it. Like the game two worlds 2, I love that game and like 99.9% of reviews and players hate it. But it's fun!

[@kelvingarrido2497]

yeah you kinda have to put in a lot of effort into ignoring what the media thinks of certain games in order to form your own opinion and just enjoying whatever it is you like

[@suburbanwhitedad7338]

I remember playing Deus Ex: Invisible War and being blown away by the physics, gameplay, and choices only to find out the game had been shit on. :(

[@HQ_Default]

I find it funny how after watching that entire synopsis of the game's events and plot, I still don't know if aliens actually invaded or if it was all just a bunch of mutants with alien DNA

[@MrHammers]

One of life's greatests questions lol. From what I gathered it seems aliens touched down in Iraq and brought some weird crystal thing and from there they just spread some kind of virus that infected everyone, and the US government tried to hone and craft the virus to benefit them

[@sneedclavehere8918]

@@MrHammers Sure sure but what about the giant Spore aliens? They're clearly falling right out of the sky, did the Reborn soldiers contact aliens?

[@olivermoran9319]

Been ages since I played this game but from what I remember the story basically went like this. US Gov finds alien tech and realizes its immense potential in weapons research. They perform a whole bunch of really really inhuman and barbaric experiments on their own soldiers ( who are officially MIA or KIA), homeless people, migrants etc. Something happens and the US Gov is forced to abandon the project. I believe there is mention of sealing whatever research facility with concrete but I cant precisely remember. Anyway, the experimented on test subjects survive and break out, causing all the havoc we see in the game after Iraq. Also I think all the alien creatures we see are the result of them escaping containment when the experimented on insurgents break out. Anyhow thats how I interpreted it.

[@redtsun67]

"yeah it's too hot to evac you out, but we'll drop a whole fucking humvee down" "well can't you just like, idk, lower some ropes instead?" "NO! YOU HAVE TO DO THE DRIVING SECTION!"

[@MrHammers]

Buncha cheesedicks at HQ, man

[@mcwildstyle9106]

The ending of this damn game is another great example of "Show, don't Tell"

[@sinner2133]

I cannot BELIEVE this was recommended to me. I couldn’t remember the name, but as soon as I saw the alien in the thumbnail I instantly remembered. I used to play this game on an Xbox 360 at my dad’s house when I was a kid. I remember the monsters designs, and I LOVED the way the alien bosses looked. Absolute gem

[@barnabiswirley2132]

The DOD did studies on if an homeland invasion occurred and the results were pretty much what we all knew. The US military wouldn't be able to stop a full invasion and would have to regroup in strategic locations. The push to remove the invasion forces would come down to the military working closely with militia forces. Meaning the DOD recognizes that the armed American citizen ultimately would be the deciding factor in America falling from an invasion or the invasion forces being removed. So while we all laugh at the NPC with a pistol in his yard, the DOD wouldn't be laughing and would he relying on Americans like that to repel an invasion.

[@iamwrong2239]

Tbh, I like to see this as a more developed game. I can definitely see the messaging being relevant today then it was back then.

[@MrHammers]

I'd love to see the full vision they had for this game, think it coulda been amazing tbh

[@SirBlackReeds]

Late, but it was criticized for being a bit too late to the party. It came out after support for the War on Terror had severely waned.

[@MrAdamFC]

My tutor in college worked on this game back in the day. I remember asking him why was it such a buggy mess at launch and his response was simply, Mate I was high on white powder most the time. So the title isn't the only black site that came out of this company in 2007 i guess.

[@MrHammers]

😂

[@izzygrey2981]

Alot of creative people do coke and meth to get shit done. I stayed up for five days making music.

[@MrAdamFC]

@@izzygrey2981 Sure you were making music and not just high gaffer taping squirrels to guitars ?

[@izzygrey2981]

@@MrAdamFC cuz u dont know me il let that slip. The truth is music is all im good at. Iv worked with the producer of the strokes while people give me free studio time with wall to wall analog gear. il use meth sometimes to help me focus. If you believe all the bull shit bout meth you are a fool. If you dont believe me just look up ill prospekt. Just cuz im a junkie dont mean i dont have amazing talent. I get to do what people dream of doing and i do it with out trying.

[@MrAdamFC]

@@izzygrey2981 Ok it was a joke , like you said we don't know each other but i do comedy. anyways Good on you , checked it out and it sounds good, Is it new metal you do ?

[@VikingPoodle]

I remember being blown away by the demo of this game cause it was one or the first next Gen titles I played. I still really have fond memories of it. Wish they'd throw it up on Steam for a couple bucks or something

[@MrHammers]

WB has the rights I think. Who knows what their plans is with it

[@Jorendo]

The demo was awesome, but also included the best level in the game. Smart but sadly it put high expectations and it didn't deliver. I really wanted more of that urban small town feel, not the many deserts. The game was alright though, not really bad, but not great either and could have been so much more.

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

The concept of this game is awesome And honestly we need more classic alien invasion content in movies and games Today aliens are generally just humanoids in hi tech armor, something out of a marvel movie

[@MrHammers]

I know! The middle portion of this game was something magical, I'm so bummed they ruined it with generic soldiers

[@Ryykal]

The Earth Defense Force series, at least, is a very fun B movie style game of alien and giant monster invasion movies. Though very long, and very clearly anime-esque in some aspects.

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Blame Mass Effect, Halo, and Crysis I guess

[@watch.v-dQw4w9WgXcQ]

@@Ryykal Its a Japanese arcade-based game series. no shit its gonna be anime-esque and long when the company is Japanese with the fanservice Wingdivers and Literal Idol Tanks/Mechs with Bodypillow Hammer wielding Fencers. Thats the whole aspect of the game, you can even summon Hololive stars like Fubuki as decoys in the new one. Hell the entire game is anime with the "All is lost but they're these lunatics still fighting so we wont throw in the towel till they do" plot moments (if you pay attention to the backround audio since its arcade based so no cutscenes)

[@palespirit]

Happy I’m not the only one who thought this was a gem. That whole rainy night time gas station showdown is intense and looks amazing even today.

[@RayCoach7]

I was one of the tops of the leaderboard on this game's multiplayer back at its relative peak. Made good friends in its multiplayer even though it was short lived. Thanks for bringing back the memories, m8! Good vid!

[@MrHammers]

That's cool! I love super niche online multi communities

[@Mankey619]

Who would’ve thought that this wasn’t supposed to be a sequel to Area 51,but Midway insisted into making it. Overall the game looks fine. Looking at it reminds me a lot of Resistance Fall of Man.

[@MrHammers]

I totally get the resistance vibes!

[@majinya6199]

@@CyberMonty2077 Hope that's a joke, Resistance Fall of Man came out a full year before this did.

[@frankkennedy6388]

@@majinya6199 That's the point. It does look like he took notes from Resistance in the alien design.

[@majinya6199]

@@frankkennedy6388 The comment I replied to that seems to have been deleted, Said something to the lines of "Resistance copied the designs". Been months can't remember exactly what it was.

[@frankkennedy6388]

@@majinya6199 ok. Those aliens barely feature in a crappy sequel anyway. So it's no big deal.

[@zalseon4746]

oh dude i remember "your cracker ass don't speak Arabic, hers does" made me bust up laughin' at 1 am when i played it. the "where's the enemy?!" line got exponentially creepier the longer i served in the Army. People forget how odd, paranoid, and shifty that decade was.

[@vault1021]

This game was a Fever dream to me, I remember getting it at a Best Buy in fall 2007 just over the Area 51 subtitle ( I was a big arcade shooter kid growing up) and having so much fun with it. Looking to grab a copy of it one day so I can replay it..

[@swissarmypipe2389]

This game was a big part of my childhood, while watching this review I was hit with a huge wave of nostalgia, I think I've beaten this game over an dozen times and genuinely think that this game should be put back on steam and maybe even get a remake. I wish my PlayStation 3 still worked so I could replay this game. Also you did a fucking awesome job reviewing this game, it's a crime that you have only 56k subscribers you make better vids than most youtubers on here, can't wait to see the next vid you upload.

[@MrHammers]

Thanks man!!

[@tsycho1619]

Best way to start 2023 is with a Mr. Hammers video. Happy New year!

[@MrHammers]

Happy new year!

[@weirdferretthing]

... So they can't extract you because it's too hot But they can send in a humvee via chinook A chinook which also could just... carry people

[@versebuchanan512]

2:04 "It was designed to be submersive," Indeed. A boxed copy can survive water pressure up to 300 meters and can hold it's breath for almost seven minutes.

[@SuperTiberian]

Man, I remember playing this game when I was younger and being pretty confused by the... well... everything. This video certainly clears a lot of things up though, thanks Hammers!

[@MrHammers]

It's confusing still as an adult! Haha

[@kylegoodwin8673]

I remember really liking the fight in the town outside of Area 51, where you had to fight your way in. After you enter the bunker complex it was just...I've done this before feeling.

[@optimus467]

I recently downloaded Area 51 to play on my PC, and I must say it's still amazing till this day. I feel like we need more games like that these days. It would definitely be a breath of fresh air.

[@heretxc]

YOU DO NOT FUCKING MISS WITH HITTING EACH AND EVERY SINGLE FUCKING NOSTALGIC GAME I REMEMBER THANK YOU

[@CodeeXD]

"Make us a game about aliens" "OK I'll make a game about Iraq and protesting the government " Of course he got canned what did he expect

[@0lionheart]

Nah, publishers quite literally do not care about that stuff. If the game had sold well they'd be acting like it was their idea. They only care about sales, and the game did poorly, _plus_ he was blaming them in part for it because they rushed and meddled. They had two options, agree, or lay all the blame on him. And they're never going to admit fault lol

[@THEREALTICKLEMYELMO]

@@0lionheart no but consumers do.. it sold like shit and reviews are bad .. noone liked it .. i LOVE the first game , with a passion ,, re playing it atm with reshade and ray tracing .. sooooooo good compared to this fucking mess

[@leek5682]

Loved this game as a kid. I knew it wasn’t technically very good, but it had a special place in my heart

[@aaron_exclusive]

I love these longer videos man! I loved Area 51 on the ps2!! I played it non stop as a kid. Happy new year dude and can’t wait to see more of your videos !

[@MrHammers]

Thanks! Happy new year to you as well my friend

[@hanayaseth]

Another video from Mr. Hammers himself that I always wait for and receive in delight. I remember this game to be weird and unusual with what it's trying to tell although having standard gameplay.

[@121saggy]

Whenever you post a video I always get so excited to watch it I end up binging other older videos and then the new one as like a lead up to it, great vid as always MrHammers!

[@MrHammers]

Thank you! That means a lot, I'm glad you like the content 🥰

[@jameswalt1]

This was fascinating. Love these stories about double-A 7th gen games.

[@kupokinzyt]

I know this is random but I just glanced over at your profile and have been subscribed so long that I kind of was struck when I seen the GTA Vice City Hammer instead of your usual profile picture skull! Also, thank you so much for the video. You've gained so many subscribers this year! I hope 2023 is just as great. Your channel is awesome!

[@MrHammers]

Thanks homie! Hope you have a good new year

[@Fantomfields]

Man I don't even know how many times I replayed Rachel and the Flathead boss. I also remember playing split screen multiplayer where you play as random character models from the campaign and it being pretty fun

[@DS-wl5pk]

I know the guy made Deus and Midway had their problems, but I still feel had the guy just not tried to push his politics into the game, the. There wouldn’t have been so much push back from midway and development would’ve went smoothly. The dude wanted to push his politics into a fucking Area 51 game and effectively denied any fan an actual respectable sequel. Midway has their share of the blame, he should hold his

[@TheInfectiousCadaver]

i cant believe this game and area 51 scared the bajesus out of me. then i hit middle school and learned of a game called doom 3. sure i can play them now but i wont ever forget the excitement and the rush of being scared.

[@maltsutty]

I had no idea Harvey smith was involved with this! He’s a fucking legend with deus ex and Dishonored !!!! All his work at Arkane is amazing imo. Thanks for that new bit of history!

[@MrHammers]

No problem! He's a legend in my book just with how he slammed Midway after working with them on this game

[@spyguy888]

Just yesterday I rewatched the first video and wondered if you were gonna do a video on the second game too! Awesome!

[@MrHammers]

Good timing!

[@LiceDuhaPRODUCTIONS]

MR Hammer back again with another Banger!!!

[@vinniecorleone62]

Excellent commentary on this somewhat under-rated Sci-Fi follow up to the original Xbox game! I have seen several old reviews of this game but none of them had the solid in-depth details nor footage of the more unique aspects of this game, very well done man! I picked this game up a few years ago but never played it, only the Xbox one which I enjoyed.

[@MrHammers]

Thanks dude! I'm glad you liked it, imo this game had potential but fell very flat

[@aureliolaferla9556]

I start follow your channel probably 2 months ago, and fucking hell man love your videos! You talk about all the game I played when I was a kid and...I'm re-buyng them (or re-downloading as Manhunt 2 or The Punisher). I love the idea of "retro-review" of them, I always searched for a channel like this. Keep up the good work man! :D

[@MrHammers]

Ayy! Glad you like them, thanks for being here

[@blu-birb]

X-Factors: "You're Mongoose Blathers, Dang It!"

[@CyberMonty2077]

Aw man I haven’t thought about this game in so long. This video really brought back some memories. :) I loved the design of the reborn human/mech enemy.

[@sam-2341]

Smashing it again Hammers!

[@JoshBirge]

I’ve been waiting for your next video!

[@Euronymouscoast]

The return of the king (of video game retrospectives)

[@MrHammers]

The only king here is you 👑

[@MyzteryMedia]

The squad morale makes so much sense considering what the developer was going for Edit: “man you ain’t gone believe this”🤣🤣 12:25

[@NLYS27]

I got out of the Army Dec 12th and 2022. Harvey nailed it on the politics and military stuff. American Soldier are literally professional disposable volunteer conscripts. For my fellow vets and currently in. I would have done my 20. I loved being a 11B so much. I'm 5'3 and only used a 240. Im glad to know that Harvey and I share similar experiences and feelings because im not alone. But at the same time it sucks that im not a rare case. Also i really thought they had Alex Jones in the game. That was too good and too believable.

[@johnynoway9127]

never heard of this game. I'l play it. I beat Area 51 a number of times. It was fun.

[@michaelrodriguez2829]

Happy New Year(Reserved) MrHammers

[@MrHammers]

Same to you my friend!

[@hansmercredi3636]

Wow I was looking for this game for years, played it when I was younger and had fond memories This video shattered those memories

[@daudajabani9831]

The pistol was crazy in that game lol 1 head shot and you were dead

[@Br0cake]

"Honestly i cant believe i just talked about this game for 45 minutes" my brother in christ i could listen to you describe paint dry for 4 hours and still be interested, side note, even if ya upload less that just gives us time to rewatch your other videos more brother.

[@MrHammers]

Thank you bro, I appreciate that. I'm glad you like the content 😊

[@matthewgilmore97]

Another great video dude

[@MrHammers]

Thank you bro

[@DaxterKing]

Looks like Harvey will get his "weird shit in a small town" game with Redfall.

[@ibrahimozturk7]

i was a kid when i played the demo of this on my xbox 360, something about it was intriguing to my kid brain lol. I eventually got the game but never finished it, so I am glad to have watched this, I understand the plot a bit better too. Anyway, it was a decent game and that M4 was fun to shoot

[@AnthonyRiddle]

I remember first playing a demo of this game on my 360. The character graphics were mind blowing and the lighting and rain effects were unlink anything I'd ever seen at that time

[@SJxPVR]

Great video bro , I played this game once I did beat it but I have completely forgotten about this game thanks for the refreshing trip down memory lane lol

[@MrHammers]

Appreciate ya my man!

[@SJxPVR]

@MrHammers just wondering have you ever played the old EA game BLACK?

[@MrHammers]

Yeah! Wanna do a video on that eventually

[@SJxPVR]

@@MrHammers ooo I'm excited lol

[@ccl159]

Good to see you back MrHammers! Happy new year

[@MrHammers]

Happy new year to you as well my friend

[@DuckPresident]

Welcome back man! Hope all is well and happy new year

[@MrHammers]

Thanks dude! Happy new year 🥂

[@elatedatheist]

Very well said at the end, priorities is priority... Awesome Stuff My Dude...

[@SkyCavern]

I'm gonna be frank, boss. I loved this game when I was younger. To me, it was just fun, and I still find nostalgia in it. Also, the VA for the radio host is allegedly Alex Jones himself.

[@AndrewTime9106]

Gotta say: I totally disagree about Harvey. If he wanted to quit, he should have. If not, give your best & then move on. Still, this video rocks & I appreciate the look back at such a special time in gaming.

[@MrHammers]

I'm sure he did give his best, there are tons of fantastic things in this game, but when the publisher comes in and shuts half of it down that's gotta be frustrating and think he's 100% in the right to speak his mind about it after the game released to poor reviews

[@Kinglizard220]

@@MrHammers I mean to be fair, I don't think many people want to play a whole politics infested game, not to say there isn't any politics in games. But at least in other games they doesn't seem to be hammering down on you constantly. Still fun game though.

[@MrHammers]

That's fair, in this case I don't think the politics get in the way of gameplay, so why not have a decent story

[@Kinglizard220]

@@MrHammers it wouldn't really. Ig it just matters if the gameplay is good, then it'd make up for the story having a lot of politics, but then again we never saw it at the true potential so I can't even really say anything.

[@alexmoberly3644]

Thank you. Thank you. Thankyou. I have been looking for this game for YEARS. EVER SENSE THE DEMO CAME OUT. LITERALLY YEARS. I used to play the demo that was out a loooooooong time ago on my brothers Xbox. Before he eventually uninstalled it. Thank you. So so much I could never remember the name of this game. And randomly today here it is!!!

[@4diamondz318]

Now I want to collection the Area 51 games... like a blast from the past experience pack. Very Classic!

[@thekingsean92]

That would be great. I've never actually played blacksite but hope to find a cheep copy of it one day. I still own the PS2 Area 51, i loved that game as a kid and still own it

[@kenny10188]

Jesus the original arcade Area 51 PC port was one of my most favorite games I've ever played. That brings back some good memories!

[@greenhowie]

Really liked the medical facility at the start where you can see all the experiments and surgery but the environment is absolutely filthy. Weirdly similar vibe to the movie Attack The Block, where you have aliens invading a London ghetto instead of a big shiny American city and a local drug dealer hangs up an alien corpse in his grow room as a trophy.

[@fosterbeans]

thanks for making this video. you just helped me realize i did indeed play this game and completely forgot about it; probably because i enjoyed the original Area 51 so much and this paled in comparison.

[@djtoxicdhg]

Happy new years bro I hope you have a grate grate new year bro.

[@MrHammers]

Happy new year my friend! Same to you 🥂

[@chrismeyers5963]

Man, I remember getting my copy of Area 51 from EB Games when it 1st dropped and fell in love with it, I thought it was a pretty badass game, especially the fact that the devs actually had real websites in the game you can look up and all, like the BlackVault among others, I wished they would really make a good sequel of Area 51

[@tonyminajj]

yessir happy new year

[@MrHammers]

🥂🥂

[@Salamander407]

Great vid!! Area 51 rocked, beat it x 2! Bought black site recently, gonna play it soon. Working on building out my PS3 collection, one heck of a library.

[@isaacclarke4259]

I love this game and still do. In fact, around the year 2008, my brother and I would often discuss the war commentary, dark undertones, creatures, the strange, underlined themes, and conspiracy theories we would hear about on Coast to Coast AM and how those theories could have influenced this game. I know I still have my PC CD ROM disc that I bought while I was living in Europe. If i remember correctly, the cover stated, in German that it is the uncut version of the game.

[@SOADwillruletheworld]

All of the mentions of Flatheads makes me wanna re-read the First Law Trilogy. Great series!

[@HyperionStudios]

Man I remember the first Area 51 and that was so memorable. Blacksite, while somewhat memorable to me, was one of my first gaming disappointments. It just didn't scratch that itch. If anything, I'd say X-COM: The Bureau is more in line with what I was expecting.

[@rajendrabiswas]

can you play black site without playing Area 51?

[@MrHammers]

@rajendrabiswas yeah, they aren't related at all

[@JohnnyHambone]

So because this guy wanted to make a "statement" he ignored the previous area 51 story?

[@MinniSpuddd]

TREMORS REFERENCE?? subbed

[@edgarrodriguez5436]

This game is so underrated, Black side Area 51 was ahead of its time and was just so good to play.

[@dwarfdigger135]

I loved this game as a kid, that scene in Rachel where the woman gets grabbed behind the fence stuck with me. Can't save everyone sadly

[@MrHammers]

That neighborhood section was just soo good

[@angryretrogamer7313]

Great video, I will buy any game with Area 51 in the title for sure. I would have bought this game anyway though because it's my favorite kind of game and it looks cool. I have both the PS2 game and this one on PS3. I enjoyed both games. I was so disappointed that I couldn't play the Area 51 arcade machine that is in the first level of the PS2 game that I went out and bought the PS1 port just so I could play it. Awesome games thanks for your retrospective.

[@Badazzgamer43]

I loved this game i this video takes me back. brings me back to the days of brute force and all them other games.

[@jaysono_o]

Hey private welcome back and happy new year 🎉🎉

[@MrHammers]

Happy new year!! 🥂

[@luiscuadras1963]

My brother and I played this game a lot. It was really fun and had some horror aspects which I liked. Miss such simple games like this.

[@johnnyzero8853]

I love how you inserted that Psycho Dad meme 😂😂😂

[@MrHammers]

I had to 😂

[@GreatWhite5]

I actually really enjoyed this game when I was younger in fact I might play through the whole game again

[@barry-allenthe-flash8396]

You have to look at the Resistance games sometime. The "alien invasion going down downtown" vibe is really strong in various entries of that series.

[@Clockwork0nions]

The nighttime gas station level is the one that was picked for the demo released on the 360. I'm pretty sure a lot more people have played that level than have actually played the game 😆

[@jordanvelez2840]

i played the crap out of that demo back in high school lmao

[@natedowns]

That m4 is probably the most smoothest adaptation ever

[@tristanbackup2536]

I do like this game as a side thing. The "mutations" are what the people in Area 51 were working on prior. Somehow after the Area 51 incident, technology & bioweapons got leaked to the black market & hense Iraq got their hands on some & experimenting on their own. Maybe even this militia in the US as well, they wanted to break in & get more I quess.

[@foxnoodles2458]

Such a good and entertaining video

[@MrHammers]

Thank you!

[@the_real_Kurt_Yarish]

One of the many "discount bin" games I rember playing back in the day. This one felt especially tedious throughout, despite some interesting parts.

[@whereDIDericGO]

AYO, thanks for mentioning Tremors 👌

[@drzoamon]

I'm glad someone else remembers this game

[@Kingkarlito97]

I been thinking about this game since I was a kid when I played it on Xbox as a demo back when demos use to come with the magazines.

[@patricknapier5806]

I love how the squad opens fire at the red neck before the alien shows up. It was like the alien was trying to save him from the military. 17:16

[@liltech-9]

unironically ive been looking for thus games name for years… I played this with my cousin when i was so young and it blew my mind

[@archerdelta4770]

This showed up on my recommended and just awoke a latent memory in me I forgot for years I had. I played this game so much, it was one of the games that I loved growing up and played over and over. I still stand by that.

[@TPH7NS]

I enjoyed this game so much that I managed to get all the achievements

[@MrHammers]

Oh wow, probably a rare feat lol

[@zackeryparkerson]

“and two spec-op goats” Lmao

[@sumguy3687]

18:51 This is why I unironically love Duke Nukem 2011 Something about just battling a alien invasion as a "nobody" set in a normal place (or las vegas) Is just fun. It tickles that fun question of "if there was a alien invasion RIGHT NOW, how would that shake out?" What would it be like battling invaders while trying to get across town. Taking shelter in a godamn burger king while trying to defend earth.

[@reedraikes7471]

The first area 51 is my favorite game when I was younger

[@GameMaster136]

I remember years ago messing around with the multiplayer and getting stuck with one of those viral achievements that happened to be worth 49G. Think I was stuck with that achievement for about a year or two before I got around to getting the other half of the viral achievement to get 51G and even things out.