The modern day Suzuki GSX-R750? Ducati Panigale V2 vs MV Agusta F3RR | MCN

[@motorcyclenewsdotcom]

Which one would you buy? Let us know in the comments below.

[@CJ-ph4gt]

I bought a gsxr750 (2016, L6) July 2022. The bike handles superb and there's more that enough power, totally analogue and well balanced masterpiece.

[@CJ-ph4gt]

Out round scotland today for 7hrs bit tight on the shoulders but I'm 6'4" this gsxr750 is a pleasure to let rip

[@1956colinb]

I’ve had my 2014 899 Panigale from new, fantastic ride, so much character I’ve just added BST carbon wheels and a K- Tech DDS pro shock to it, ..it was great before, now it’s absolutely epic 😍! One of the best looking bikes ever, I just love riding it, no garage Queen either, she’s got over 29,000 miles on now 😬 Ride them don’t hide them 👍

[@beta400rr2]

I'd be getting the standard F3. It's identical to the RR aside from the paint job n fairings - power, electronics, even the wheels, all identical (which you should be gettin forged on the RR for that price). It'd save me a bunch of cash I could use to fix the problems with the F3 - see steering damper and front brake. Then it would be the sweet all-rounded supersport for the road and track days as the Gixxer 750 was. V2 is a bit tame and lacks the intensity of what a young supersport road bike, younger rider like myself seeks.

[@NinjaKid1985]

The Ducati V2! It's something else, it looks astonishing. It sounds amazing and is probably in most aspects better than the MV, still being cheaper! The MV is a beauty, and the tripple, ahhhh! But to problematic. And the GSX-R is also a greate bike but if you have the money, than the Ducati should be a nobrainer!

[@ianwarren]

Only got my full license in Jan but done 5,500 miles on my CBR650R this year and was lent a Panigale V2 for a ride at SMC Sheffield (Thanks) and absolutely adore it (despite the roasted bits, it was a hot day)! What a machine, what a weapon and despite the dealer handing it to me set in race mode and so giving me the full extra 60 BHP it was delightful not scary and definitely flatters you! Lucky enough to have a son who’s ex BSB racer to follow and give me lots of priceless riding tips and advice so definitely caught his love of Ducati too now! My Honda is all the bike I need still (though more power catching up my son on German Autobahns after he disposed of Porches would be great 👍) and am still loving and learning from it. But am seriously smitten with the V2 and will start saving the extra pennies (all £8000 of them)! Planning a track day with my sons mate (MotoGP test rider) as instructor next year so that might change what I want from a bike afterwards! Anyway great review as always! Thanks 👍

[@leegrice1210]

I went from a GSXR 750 K6 to a Pani 959 and never looked back... the 959 is a fabulous bike with huge character, amazing looks and great road/track performance and I don't think I'll ever sell it.

[@JW-je3gz]

That's what I thought too, but sold for a v4s. 959 is the perfect foundation to get into a V4 its unreal

[@willspeakman2461]

Would you trade it for the v2?

[@leegrice1210]

@@willspeakman2461 Don’t see the point really mate - I’d be paying another £7k or so for the bike plus another £2-3k for the Akra’s for essentially a single side swingarm upgrade and a TFT dash. I bought mine with the underside Akra’s already on it, so I didn’t incur that expense originally either.

[@sollydogg]

Will your 959 get 100,000 miles the gsxr 750 will

[@leegrice1210]

@@sollydogg I'd stick my house on it... the build quality is top drawer. P.S. Your grammar/punctuation is terrible.

[@andrewlucas6214]

Conspicuous by its absence is the Daytona 765. The bike we all cried out for but never got. Why don’t Triumph reverse what they did some years ago put a fairing on the street triple and make us happy. That would be a worthy successor to the gsxr 750.

[@jarydt1152]

I race a daytona 675 at my local track, if they made a 765 daytona you most likely couldn't race them because it doesn't suit any class and I think daytona buys would wanna race/ track day their bike as half the people that buy sport bikes now days do that as they're pretty crap to ride on the road

[@JoeAnton420]

You can buy fairings for the street triple rs and clipons and youve got a "daytona". Also street triple 765rs is homologated for use in world superbike, motoamerica, british superbike series'. Brandon Paasch competed in BSB and won the 2022 Daytona 200 on a street triple rs.

[@aka_pierre]

What are you talking about dude, it's the moto 2 bike.

[@drasticthompson1995]

@@jarydt1152 The GSX-R 750 and the Daytona 765 Moto2 were both racing at the 2022 Daytona 200 along with the Ducati V2 in the Super Sport class. Brandon Paasch won the race on the 765 Moto 2. Suzuki’s GSX-R 600 is still cable throttle but they used a throttle by wire on the 750 so it and the 765 Moto2, and the V2 could be detuned in mapping to race the R6, and 636!

[@MarcusW87]

@@jarydt1152 they seem to well in World Supersport, I wonder how long local racing series will take to renew their regulations as well.

[@space.youtube]

"Is this (Ducati V2) the spiritual successor to the GSXR750?" No, not even close. It's a litre sports bike for starters, and its designed around a completely different ethos. It may be the "successor" by virtue of the GSXR's absence, but it's no "spiritual successor" not by a long shot. The GSXR 750 was the sports bike of the masses, the little Japanese bike that could. It was affordable, uncomplicated, versatile and rewarding to ride. It could scratch at the track and commute, it is Suzuki's greatest success, and most egregious failure. That Suzuki has neglected this brilliant motorcycle to the point of extinction is a genuine shame. Don't get me wrong, the Ducati is a great bike, it just isn't a GSXR750, not in body or soul. x2 for the MV

[@jpslayermayor9293]

Totally concur I feel like I am in some alternate universe everytime I read or hear that v twins or parallel twins somehow sound as good as a high revving inline 4. It just doesn't compute, they sound like agricultural implements in comparison.

[@drasticthompson1995]

Very well said! Zuk Nation ❤️

[@thewintermachine]

The v2 is actually uncomplicated and rewarding to ride - you don't get the peaky torque of an inline 4 - and JP, yes this may be entirely subjective, but yeah v twins have crazy character. Inline fours are cool, but the v2 sounds like a fucking panther

[@Fee.1]

Every manufacturer has neglected their inline 4’s except in the top end superbike though. Suzuki is running a tight operation unfortunately, but also fortunately because if they had more money they’d had abandoned the v twin and inline 4 ages ago like everyone else. They said I agree. But also see his point. They’re completely unalike in every way…but it’s still a modern revvy bike that also has torque down low. It’s a bike to consider if you wanted a 750, it’s an alternative, but hardly a successor

[@roelfkromhout]

The 916's of old actually competed against 750's so it kinda works in that sense, but yeah, the enormous price difference alone disqualifies it as a successor or kindred spirit. Not to mention the fact it's not an inline 4.

[@quacktac]

MV do a terrible job with getting their bikes into youtuber's hands. The F3 Rosso is actually a reasonable price and would probably be a consideration for a lot of people, but the only F3 content online seems to be of this overpriced RR.

[@pistonburner6448]

I agree! And I've not seen a single youtuber mention their 3 years of free servicing

[@checker3694]

Yes agree, to be fair this is a Krazy horse demo bike I believe it's where MCN get there demos from if they had a Rosso it's a better comparison and cheaper than V2.

[@pistonburner6448]

@@salahad-din4114 Hahaha, you're saying PR nonsense about MV Agusta? And when discussing a group of bike including the Volkswagen-Ducati marketing clownery? You should understand that Volkswagen Group is essentially a marketing, finance-connections & corruption evil empire. The whole essence of Ducati is marketing, and their marketing budget is probably bigger than MV Agusta's or Aprilia's total budget! They fly journalists all over the world to nice destinations, put them into nice hotels and feed them luxury meals... As to "honest enough to pick out faults" I'd say that there were a few big mistakes: first giving the impression that the MV's throttle response might have issues based on something that was perfected 7 years ago back in 2015, and second of all missing lots of stuff about pricing, including the existence of the Rosso model, the free servicing for 3 years, and they could've even mentioned that right now Crazy Horse has a special offer with all Euro 4 model MV Agustas including an additional 2 years warranty and a £1000 discount!

[@JNAMOTORSPORTS]

It’s a tiny company

[@brianglendenning1632]

I would see Neevsey as a bit more than a KZbinr, more a motorcycling journalist who publishes on You Tube

[@azn_1050]

Definitely the MV for me! Honestly MV Agusta makes the most beautiful bikes out there. Just breathtaking.

[@jordanjoestar8839]

Yeah they look great on bike stands being worked on constantly...

[@davidhandley6374]

I can honestly say in the 5 years I’ve owned F4’s I’ve never had a problem

[@Rgh71fish]

​@@davidhandley6374 the original F4 with the round tail pipes is a bike I've lusted after for a good 16 years. Anything in particular to look out for when buying or advice for those who are new to MV?

[@davidhandley6374]

@@Rgh71fish just make sure you get everything with the bike I.e manuals, cover and toolkit. Any part you need to buy that’s MV specific is difficult and time consuming to find and costs 4 times more than it should. I have a 2001 750 and a 2006 1000, the 750 was missing its toolkit, it took months to find a genuine one and cost 4 times more than a Ducati one. Servicing the MVs are fine, the filters etc are not MV specific so the costs are not much more than Japanese bikes.

[@PandaStencils]

Great review, and well said. The winner is still the left over GSX-R750. I really like the Panigale V2, but I would go for a left over GSX-R750 and then make it your own. This is my favorite class of sportbike. I am faster on track, happier on the street, and all-around more comfortable on my 750 than I am on my last 2 literbike superbikes.

[@industrialkhaos]

Good point. I have a 2017 Fireblade and love it immensely now that I have softened down the suspension and put some decent Bridgestone S22's on it.

[@PandaStencils]

@@industrialkhaos Nice! That SC77 Fireblade will go down as one of the most refined and easiest to ride 1000cc superbikes ever. I would own and build one some day. Too many bikes! I am a huge fan of S22 tires, too- a phenomenal hypersport tire.

[@englishsteel-nz6im]

The 750 still rules for hitting that balanced spot of power/handling. They still make it because it still sells.... even with minimal updates.

[@LOCKHIMUP2024]

​@@PandaStencilsMoreso....than the BMW S1000R ⁉️🤷😳🫤😮

[@PandaStencils]

@@LOCKHIMUP2024The S1000RR is a phenomenal bike. I have ridden two generations on track, and a have a few demo miles on the street., and I considered one when shopping for my last sportbike. Relative to the 750, the current S1000RR is a "systems-heavy" bike and (for me) would need a ECU flash. I realized I was looking for analog, simple, lightweight (and easier on tires!). That said, the current S1000RR is incredible.

[@iCGreen_]

I’ve had 2 600’s, 2 750’s, a Honda 900RR, and an R1. My current 07’ 750 is still that sweet spot. It keeps up with everything short of liter bike on the highway, sounds like a banshee at midnight, turns heads because of rarity and doesn’t cost a paycheck for mods.

[@georgegarcia3182]

Seems like Euro5 is really killing beautiful motorcycle exhaust tones. The Ducati V2 and the MV didn't sound anywhere as nice as a 90's Ducati.

[@JNAMOTORSPORTS]

Who the hell rides a stock bike?

[@paulfaiers345]

It sounds like a tractor

[@hyedefinition1080]

I'd wager the 90's bikes you speak of will sound just as bad with the mic setup by reviewers. They have to ensure their voice can be heard, wind minimized, and no clipping. With the way the wind is being cutoff in this video, the LCF filter is probably set on the mic; essentially cutting off lower frequencies.

[@Chris675R]

In reality the 955 V2 sounds a lot beefier than in this video, even with the OEM exhaust

[@Chris675R]

​@@hyedefinition1080I can confirm that the V2 Panigale/Streetfighter V2 got a deeper tone, when you hear them with your own ears. So there's definitely some lower frequencies missing in this video.

[@drasticthompson1995]

I ride a K8 750 which once cat deleted and flashed and tuned is the fastest stock motor 750! My bike was done by Chris Moore here in the U.S. and I can say that my friends on 1000’s hate me on my bike. They can’t dust me on the highway and I destroy them on in the mountains here in Western NC. I love my 750 and will never get rid it. My plan is carbon rims, Ohliins full suspension, Yoshi cams and a port and polished head. It will be gnarly when I am done with it! ❤️ Stay safe people’s!

[@silversoozookee2839]

2005 750 I've ridden it 34,000+ miles in the 5+ years I've owned it Couple of accidents and down on the pavement, Even hit a deer. But replaced the broken bits Off and riding like nothing happened 🤣 So many nice bikes out there but with a solid tune giving me 125@ the wheel I just don't see any reason getting a newer bigger engine motorcycle. Had a very revealing track day That showed me a whole new side of my bike. Can't wait for upcoming summer 😁

[@2wheelsonly614]

Your absolutely crazy if u think a 750 in a straight line keeps up with a 1000...its not even close. 125ish hp isnt even close to a 1000. The old 1000s have 1605ish hp and todays 1000s are making 190ish ...and some even more. Ive had 1000s n 750..NOT CLOSE

[@drasticthompson1995]

@@2wheelsonly614 I don’t get dusted by any 1000, first off most of them are using their rider aide’s! Sooooo that 190 hp throttled back by traction control, wheelie control and every other max power killing electronic control hits they are old 1000hp! My 155 pound frame and my bike at less then 400 lbs at full is plenty to keep up and when them corners come up Buh Bye!

[@2wheelsonly614]

@@drasticthompson1995 tractio control only stops the bike feom wheel slip..even with traction control all the way up it doesnt matter on straights. 750s do ok racing to 100 or so but if ur talking highway racing where everyone is doing 180+ no way itll be close. Ask ur friends to ride their 1000...itll change ur life.

[@drasticthompson1995]

@@2wheelsonly614 Been there done that and spank them all! Traction control is for wheel slide, wheelie control is for wheelie smh! 2020 S1000rr M, 2019 R1, 2019 ZX10R maxed out, 2014 ZX10R maxed out, 2006 R1, 2014 R1, 1998 ZX11D, 954, 929, Zx9, amd the mighty Bosa! I have ridden them all. The difference is I will get 100% of my 7Fiddy and most posers on a 1000 are using 50% 1000. Anyone can ride in a straight line but when that first real corner comes up followed by another corner is where the men step up and the boy’s step back. My Ex-Sped dad is a retired AMA Pro and now coaches professional riders. I am nothing for play with on 2’s! Stay safe out there!

[@garrickjohnson9238]

I’ve owned 3 x Gsxr 750. SRAD, K5 and K6. These bikes are solid strong bikes. No problems at all. I dragged these bikes and raced them on the track. Awesome bike and value for your money

[@rwd323]

Interested how the K6 compared to the K5?

[@gixerloon]

Nice review Neevesy, as always, some years ago I owned both a year 2000, GSX-R750Y and a Honda SP1 (RC51), so I know what you mean about finding the sweet spot on a big V twin, it's quite a thing when you do though, and I found it was one of the fastest bikes down a twisty road near where I use to live, but the GSX-R750 was so much easier to find it's sweet spot and actually almost just as fast down the same road. I loved the grunt of the SP1 but also loved the rideability of the GSX-R750, which really is the main reason I ended up selling both and buying what was, and even today remains my all-time favorite bike a Suzuki GSX-R1000K5, also it was quicker than the both the SP and 750 down the same road, I toured on it, hooned about the roads on it, it was just sublime, it might be almost 20 years old now, but I'd have another tomorrow over any of the new current crop of Superbikes tbh, which are way too expensive, even the V2 you're testing here at £16k is too much imho, but then I suppose with PPP on new bikes now, they are easy to access for the majority of people.

[@johnfazackerley6951]

I love my V2.But as time passes by I always turn to my VFR800 2020.The engine sound and induction roar is sublime.You can nail it and enjoy.The chassis is so stable whereas the V2 is oversprung and needs setting up for a lightweight Solo rider.The VFR iis iconic.They dont make them any more and values are rocketing.Honda got this right in 2014 and never needed to change it.The V2 wiil be tweaked again and again.Cheers John.

[@AlienApe.]

Love these longer vids. The quality of your production has come so far in the last year or so - well done!

[@ThiefOfNavarre]

Agreed. The long form content is primo.

[@Showmetheevidence-]

I had a 750 a few years back & I loved it. It really is a great mix of the increased power, but still revvy and fun like a 600.

[@colinpirie8403]

I brought one of the last GSXR750’s last year here in NZ before non ABS bikes we’re banned for equivalent £8,600 , replaced the rear shock with Bitubo, it’s is so much fun in the Twisties and a natural at the track.

[@Ramon51650]

I realize that my comment comes two years after the revue, but I cannot thank you enough for thee depth of your insightful revues!! Like you, I'm tall, and while I have socks older than you, your revue answers all the questions that a potential rider should know, and you addressed all of my concerns. Thank you!

[@ragerider6283]

Great vid. I'm also desperate for Suzuki to relaunch the GSXR750 too & equally unsure why they haven't at least tried. I used to own a K6 & it was the best bike I've ever owned. I think if Suzuki did relaunch it they wouldn't need to do much at all other than breath on the engine & exhaust to get it through Euro 5. I guess they'd be obliged to add a TFT & electronics etc but I'm not too fussed about either tbh. If they could add adjustable clip-ons & rear sets to make it as versatile as possible & keep it under 13k, surely they'd be on to a winner wouldn't they?

[@CJ-ph4gt]

The guy I bought my gsxr750 said it was the best bike he has ever owned. He wasn't laying

[@marksimpson5218]

The reason Suzuki stopped making them, they just weren’t selling many.

[@ragerider6283]

@@marksimpson5218 True at that time for sure but that was some time ago & the market is seemingly cyclic. It now looks like we're moving back towards a demand for middleweight sports bikes, albeit with different configurations to the old 600cc i4's, but the GSXR750 has always been different so the time might be right to consider relaunching it maybe. I have serious doubts Suzuki will tbh but I live in hope.

[@ricardo_deveza]

It seems like Suzuki has given up on making anything new or exciting. They seem to rely on the fact their bikes are usually cheaper than the competition (because they are based on 10+year old designs and lag behind in technology and electronics). An updated GSXR 750 would be amazing, especially as the market for middle weight/more usable sport bikes seems to be growing but it doesn’t seem like Suzuki cares.

[@morri03]

I think the 750 isn’t euro5 that’s why. Suzuki is slowly getting out of making bikes other than for third world markets

[@123jjred]

I just got a 2023 750. Love it. Had no idea you couldn’t get over there. Cheers

[@flexjay87]

Really enjoy MCN, especially your personal opinions. Got my first little Honda in 1971, and have been riding ever since. At my advanced age, my advice to all riders is : ride more than you think you need to, because someday it will all come to a halt, with either injuries, old age and or time running out ! If i were a rich man in Europe, i would possibly buy the MV Agusta, for the cool factor, and to pay homage to Massimo Tamburini :)

[@_audacerider3838]

Can You imagine if Suzuki would actually put the VVTI from the 1000cc in to the 750. With all the modern electronics so TC up and down quickshifter. 165-170bhp and around 180-190kg. With a 14k pounds price tag. It wound be an absolute winner

[@nunyabidness9257]

No….. can you imagine if they did that, stripped the bike of it’s bodywork, gave it decent styling, cruise control, a 6 axis IMU, and killed both the Street Triple and the MT09?

[@marnixhoebers5176]

@@nunyabidness9257 gsxs750?

[@_audacerider3838]

@@nunyabidness9257 or that or even better do both :)

[@_audacerider3838]

@@marnixhoebers5176 gsxs750 is absolute winner for the practice.

[@nunyabidness9257]

No, the GSX isn’t in the same league as a street triple from a handling standpoint… it would need to be completely redesigned as a naked 600 with a big bore kit in it just like the triumph.

[@mhagusta9709]

I have the F3 RC 800, 2020 version. It is a stunning bike, sound is brilliant, and very quick with a lot of grunt in the mid-range. A blast !

[@NudaMan]

I always wondered if I had to rev up the 3 cylinder like a 4 cylinder, I only rode a 2019 triumph speed triple & street triple and they felt good, but does the mv agusta have a smooth power band as well? I never rode one but I was gonna get a Brutale 910 or Brutale 1090 RR

[@pistonburner6448]

@@NudaMan Yes, very smooth, but fortunately also have a lot of character at the high revs: best of both worlds!

[@kosmosgas2640]

I rode often on a 2019 Speed as as well as later model and Street. I owned a 800RR from 2015 and changed it for an 800RR 2020 . I do prefer the MV for some unique attributes (sounds, blipper behaviour, challenging riding and excitment) but saying that the MV is smooth power band?.. no! The triumph is a smoother and civilized ride. At any rpm.Anywhere below 5pm the MV has a very uneven and jumpy delivery. While there has been improvements across the iterations and while the latest Euro5 is acceptable, smooth is not! MV shines and actually becomes epic over 6500 rpm.

[@disturbed503]

How comfortable is it after a few hours? Looking at one now.

[@mhagusta9709]

@@disturbed503 Not excellent you’ll provably have some pain depending on age and speed. I would say clearly if you are the type of guy looking for comfort go see BMW 1250rt or even a roadster - and MV sells a couple of great one !

[@mike216ism]

The gsxr 750 is a legend. I bought a 1996 gsxr 750 in my early years. Captured my heart

[@petero.1455]

I rarely leave comments on any videos but I've been riding for 25 years, and a GIXR 750 owner since 2006. This video is absolutely brilliant and spot on accurate.

[@yorkshireR9T]

I've been waiting for this 🙌 I'm hoping the rumours are true about an R9, in the meantime I'd go for the gsxs 750 and save a fortune.

[@DG.2030]

I really wanted the gsxs 750 but just felt abit outdated but the price of that is amazing! Ended up with a new mt09sp

[@NickyLong89]

They’re still struggling with the supply side of the R7. If they can sort that out then they should fly off the shelf

[@PEZ1514]

What will the R9 motor be? The cp3 gives 110 hp at the wheel if your lucky

[@motorcycleartist]

@@PEZ1514 The R6 weighed 420lbz and made 106 WITH 40 ft tq. Still a legendary track bike.. why do we act as if 100+hp is a snail?? 😂 also the R9 imo will be better, bc it'll be a cpl pounds lighter and produce way more torque..I really hope yamaha will bring it into production..

[@PEZ1514]

@@motorcycleartist To me it is a snail. 100hp is easily maxed at the track. I don't get the 600cc class tbh. Don't people want to go fast?

[@LeeHoops]

I owned a k8 750 and its been my favourite road bike out the lot. Blades, zx6r, r6's, 675....the gsxr is just amazing

[@tobiascarlen]

Not sure why you say that it's "a lot lighter" than a V4. Dry weight for the V2 is 176kg, while a V4s is 174kg. Weight is actually what makes me hesitant about the V2. My current bike is 149kg and has 110hp, I'm sure the V2 will feel faster but it's also going to feel MUCH heavier.

[@drasticthompson1995]

What bike are you referring to?

[@tobiascarlen]

@@drasticthompson1995 You mean what MY bike is I'm guessing? It's a 2018 KTM Duke 790, with a lot of modifications to reduce weight by 20kg: - Dymag Carbon wheels (absout 7kg unsprung savings) - AR Ti headers - Cat replaced by custom muffler - SC Project SC1-R Carbon with the noise killer sawed out (it stays below 95db without the noise killer with the mid muffler) - Brembo M50 brakes - Rear seat/footpegs delete, rear cown instead - NRC Tail tidy - Powerparts quickfuel tanklind (saves about 500g!) - Powerparts rearset - Lithium battery (saves 3kg!) - Öhlins suspension front & rear - ISR Brake pump & clutch handle - Powerparts wave discs front & rear - HEL brake lines - Mini led blinkers in the front - Glassless mini mirrors - R&G Crash protection front, rear, barends - Racing airfilter & airbox lid - Remap to fit the new airbox + exhaust by MCE Performance I took the bike apart for painting the tank and subframe and took about 2kg off the tank & rear subframes with angle grinder/sander before painting (the rear subframe doesn't do much when you don't have a passenger seat, the tank is very heavy/ steel and has a wide welding flange that has no function outside the weld) There are a lot of other little mods that I can't rememer off the top of my head, but the bike is now less than 167kg fully fueled. (It's possible to lose more weight, but I should probably buy a 890R and move the stuff first; that engine can be tuned to close to 130hp with a few mods & remap, also the electronics are slightly better. I'm thinking a sub 140kg (dry) 890 R is possible with a custom tank and all bolts replaced by Al / TI. The bike has doen about 35 tracksdays so far and seems to hold up well ) BTW it looks like a 150kg V2 is also possible, but it would cost a lot. TThere are several big weightloss items like Carbon wheels, Acra full system, Fullsix carbon subframe, Li-battery available.

[@ryannafe9252]

I think I’d take the GSX-R750, even if it was a gift. The MV and the Ducati both have their own energy about them, but for pure and clean all-around road/sport riding, nothing can meaningfully beat the GSX-R750.

[@SamSzulman]

I bought the F3 675 way back in 2012. Yes, it's not all that comfortable but even now, when I get off the bike, I'm always smiling and buzzing with adrenaline. I still take a look back as I walk away thinking how gorgeous it looks and surely that's what riding a sporty bike should give you. The sound alone is worth the price I paid and if the odd track day comes along, you will need someone to come & wipe the stupid grin off your face.

[@Rick1984FL]

The one thing that keeps me from plunging whole heartedly into panigale love and purchase is the heat. I live in Florida and it’s HOT here. So naturally this being the states, I can’t find any dealer willing to give me a go to see if it’s a dealbreaker for me, and haven’t been able to find actual temperature figures to see how hot it actually gets. Anyways I realize this is first world problems and more importantly not much of a problem in the UK so let’s return to the topic at hand: Great video, love MCN content and Neevesy offers some of the most in-depth content on the Tube of You. Can’t believe I have a whole 30 min more to watch later

[@2wheels6strings8]

I rode my Streetfighter V2 in 90 degree plus temperatures here in the Midwest this summer and although the under seat heat is a bit much it is never enough to force me to not ride, or take a break. It is really only a pain when sitting in traffic.

[@Rick1984FL]

@@2wheels6strings8 yeah unfortunately that’s my issue; I live in Orlando metro so traffic is unavoidable and I don’t want to have to limit my riding because of exterior temperature as if I did that I’d almost never be able to ride here sadly 😂 I mean I test rode aprilias here and nary an issue and locally a v2 is a solid $20,000 OTD. I am guessing when I am able to shop for certain (am in home buying process which is why not yet) a sale contingent on a test ride will be required and if they won’t play ball with that then that means I just won’t do business with them.

[@arnohag1]

Yep. Great to ride in colder weather but cooks your backside in summer. Have tried different heat insulation methods but only mildly successful.

[@kolokolok]

@@Rick1984FL There's nothing worse than riding a hot bike in traffic and a hot day, you just can't enjoy the ride no matter what. I would consider a different bike altogether, but if you're emotionally invested in Panigale, you can heat-wrap the exhaust, add an additional carbon cover, which will reduce the temps noticeably.

[@awesomeerr8765]

It's not summer forever.

[@davidelizabeth4933]

Great topic idea! So glad we can still get the GSX-R750 here in the U.S. They are no doubt no longer Euro emissions and safety feature compliant. We can also still buy the Kawasaki ZX-6R (Ninja 636) which is about $1,800 USD less than the GSX-R750.

[@drasticthompson1995]

But is still is the OG 750!

[@jaygmiata1833]

I was looking smthing on this category but i was low on budget at this time. So after some research, i bought a 954rr fireblade, guys , such an amazing bike it is. The torque, the engine noise, the agility, also amazing comfort, i am in love :)

[@Showmetheevidence-]

Had a 750… really was an epic mix of the smaller/lighter 600s, but with that bit of extra power & yet still not as excessively powerful as the 1000s. Really was a great blend!

[@johnhudson5414]

i bought a 2017 gsxr 750 motogp brand new in 2017 having had a ZX7r for a few years. I sold itafter 6 months - i just couldnt get any joy out of it! Soulless on the road.

[@davidsampson3537]

Best start to a video this year !!! Well done MCN

[@adamtroman8946]

Had the V2 for a month, hated it. Swapped it in for the F3 RR - absolutely in love with it.

[@minatormyth]

Why did you hate it?

[@bruceread4507]

Impossible to hate. U didn't get to know it very well.

[@JPWest020]

We are about the same age so I completely get your love for sports bikes. Although I also like other kinds of bikes , sports bikes will always be at the top of my list. Maybe it’s time for me to go look for a nice GSX-R750…;-)

[@josephjocson1385]

I love both Ducati Panigale V2 and MV Agusta F3 RR, I prefer the characteristics of MV Agusta.

[@Lar308]

I got a new V2 Bayliss last year. It's got the fancy suspension and paint job and a few other nice bits. Id love a review of that and a standard V2. I am not such a good judge of handling on bikes because I tend to just potter around relative to most sports bike riders but on long journeys on the V2 I finally got it about the second tier sports bikes vs my 2021 S1000RR m sport. I am more into the aesthetics of bikes and cleaning and polishing them though so they are probably wasted on me but who cares I like them.

[@joseamaya2697]

Never ridden one but it would be a privilege to ride a Suzuki gsxr750

[@motorcycleartist]

It'll take your breath away..just a fan5astic machine..very easy to ride too.

[@joseamaya2697]

@@motorcycleartist I’ve yet to own a super sport (I’ve had sv650, mt09) and these mid 00’s gsxer’s are very tempting

[@motorcycleartist]

@@joseamaya2697 I'm curious to see if suzuki will make a new one..its been 11 years..they gave us a new Hayabusa and gsxs1000 so there's hope..these bikes have a cult following so ppl will keep buying them.

[@kevincrockett5155]

@@motorcycleartist A few years back, there was heavy talk of a new GSX-R750 being made. From the renders, it looked good... had retro round headlights. I don't know how far up the chain it went before the suits killed it but it would've been great and Suzuki could use a shot in the arm. Same thing with Honda and the CB4 concept.

[@2wheelsonly614]

Na just ride a 1000..big difference

[@hamsterclamper]

Fantastic review… only thing is, I wondered why I bought this morning’s MCN? I got far more of a feeling for what these bikes are like to ride from watching the video… which is free😬

[@kingkire1556]

If no one buys the magazines there will be no money to do the videos. Maybe.

[@billyboy77801]

Great review again, always a great watch. I’d seriously consider buying either of these bikes next year however the MV F4 RR Gen 2 13 plate is still tugging away at my heart strings. They still look drop dead gorgeous. I need to test one.

[@CJ-ph4gt]

Have you ever Red lined a gsxr750, he'll yea

[@billyboy77801]

@@CJ-ph4gt I had a SRAD WT back in the mid 90’s. What a tool that was then.

[@3rduncle]

Love this longer style of vid. Just commenting for the algorithm.

[@drewmorg.]

There is nothing I love more than full fat, juicy, interesting moto content. Thank God Covid era is over in regards to production! Neeves continues to be the benchmark for professional reviews in my book. Always throws in the tidbits that just make you think "why aren't more people saying this?" Tidbits about 600cc not being gutless and how ABS has ruined brake feel. Amazing input!

[@bhok1971]

It's not over because it was never about an imaginary v1ru5

[@incognito8219]

I like the looks of the MV way more than the Ducati. Never liked the Ducati V4 fairing until the 2022 V4s .

[@doug3011]

ive got a track prepped 2012 gixer 750 and I love it so much. I recon I would go for Ducati

[@JDelta87]

I've been fortunate enough to hold on to my 10+ year old sport bike all these years. I've learned how to work on it and upgrade some bits here and there. I don't ride it much on the street anymore so it's going to be turned into my track only bike over the winter. I guess what I'm saying is that I'd go for a 750 over one of these pricier exotics.

[@felixarbable]

my first bike was a 2015 mv agusta brutale 675, it was everything i want out of a motorcycle, and also totally scary and a really bad choice as a first bike. but when it comes on cam everything just pulled together in a totally satifying and almost euphoric way that no bike has really captured to me since even though ive ridden far better bikes now. im really thinking i might go back!

[@masterspin7796]

I have 15,000 miles on my 2015 800 Dragster RR and a Saddle-sore 1000 certification.

[@jamesbanksco]

Thank you thank you thank you MCN for not giving up on the super sport crowd!

[@wsbygt]

I had the K8 750 in Orange&Black colors and aside from what Neil said the sound of that bike with the Akrapovic exhaust was memorable. Going through tunnels or covered bridges... what a nervous throaty sound! PS: that F3 still is one of the best looking bikes ever.

[@casanovatigo]

k8 is the best looking gsxr ever. That front is unique, really beautiful.

[@martinmacdonald]

I had that exact bike too, "candy orange/black". Absolutely loved that thing, only bike I ever had stolen out of 20+

[@wsbygt]

@@casanovatigo Yes, the lotus flower headlight still stands out after 14 years and why Suzuki never took it further on the L generation or even to the 1000 model is a lost opportunity to create unique bikes!

[@casanovatigo]

@@wsbygt Yup, that's my exact thought also. I'm looking to upgrade to a bigger bike (yamaha r3 rn) and even being a yamaha fan, I just fell in love when I saw k8 gsxr 600 in silver edition... In my opinion suzuki makes the best bang for your buck bikes, they come stock with integrated turn signals, steering damper, passenger seat cowl... But yamaha r6 looks awesome as well, will be a hard decision eheh.

[@SplatteredWRX]

I went from a 2007 GSXR1000 to a 2021 Panigale V2 and it’s just a stunning bike!

[@davesnowpros6785]

Love how you've produced this. Really going to the next level with your videos. 👍

[@delmilligan4584]

Still the best bike reviewer on KZbin & in general Tv

[@trocycling1204]

My last bike was a daytona 675r, black. That bike was almost perfect. I'm thinking a v2 would be a killer next bike.

[@supaxr]

I'm definitely sold on the Ducati v2 that sound and look just cant beat it & your reaction getting off it is priceless

[@MacPain1982]

I do not get when manufacturers will understand that we need these kind of sport bikes (all the fairings) with a body position from a naked version of them and yes Europe needs gsx-r 750 :) thx for the vid.

[@blueskybanshee8013]

I bought a 959 super sport, gotta say I can’t fault it on the roads around southern highlands NSW. Nice rider friendly honest bike ❤️❤️

[@fzr1000981]

Hopefully Ducai improves the reliability, my 1299 was a nightmare. Plastic thermostat housing and spaghetti of rubber hoses running all over. Nightmare to work on and oven to ride...I went back to Gen 1 ZX-10R and love it

[@tonebonetones]

They're both gorgeous. I'd be happy with either.

[@santiagosalcedo7909]

Ive got the MV f3 675 just for track. Not as fast as the GSX or the V2 but I don´t need the extra second or two on track hahaha. From those three I would go for the V2.

[@jesus2400]

52 years old your young I love all your video’s

[@nicensleazy1892]

my Ducati 749 R is still a bloody amazing ride ! Also, it's a proper Ducati with a V Twin engine and trellis framework

[@ianwarren8316]

Watched this video so many times! Love it! I have the Panigale V2 and agree wholeheartedly with everything you say, what a machine. Does makes me want to get my hands on a GXSR-750 Dominican compare it too!

[@ronin4ortyse7en]

The intro was funnily good!!!

[@darrenmcphillips4706]

Totally love my GSXR 750 L1 I've owned it for 5 years its a keeper now never going to sell it

[@SteveR76]

I loved my K6 750 back in the day, but surely the game has moved on? Would be nice to see a direct back to back comparison of a tidy late model example with the V2 and F3.

[@kevintunaley5079]

It really hasn't though, your K6 is at least equal to these new bikes. I like them both and would love that MV more than the Ducati but only slightly yet neither enough to give up my 2015 750

[@jarofmarmalade]

Great review Neevsey - outcome for me is a GSX-R750 but I’m lucky enough to live in Aus where they’re still available. Hoping the R9 rumours are confirmed as would be very interested

[@lriper4702]

I wish Suzuki change their mind and introduce a brand new gsxr in Europe again one day…

[@MechAdv]

I was pretty much dead set on buying a GSXR750 in 2017, then Triumph dropped the STRS 765 for the same price, but with better everything and roughly the same rwhp. The biggest kicker, is that in California, the motorcycle insurance on a super sport is 4-5x the price relative to a naked bike. Got the STRS, and I couldn’t be happier with the bike, but I still wonder if GSXR could have been even better.

[@tinymotogarage]

In Mexico, we can buy a GSX-R750 2022 for £10,800 tax-in. Honestly didn't know it was this good - may take a closer look now. The GSXS750 is £8,400 (different engine, I know but still).

[@pistonburner6448]

37:22 You can buy a 2020 F3 800 for under £10K too. (I checked that there's one for sale with 5000 miles on the odo right now in the UK. It doesn't have the RR's aero parts nor the new colour display, but the GSX-R doesn't have that stuff either) And as I already mentioned in my other comment, if you want to buy new then there's the Rosso version which is significantly cheaper and misses no essential equipment or features, and it has that 3 years of free servicing which essentially lowers the price even further.

[@motosagela]

I have a Panigale 4 V4 2019 right now, and a BMW S1000RR 2021. It's interesting, I took the V4 to the track the first time in a while last weekend. I was knackered riding that bike, vs the S1000RR or my StreetfighterV4S. But, I have to say, riding the V4 vs S1000RR, there is an X factor to it that makes it more exciting, albeit exhausting.

[@brianglendenning1632]

I have a view that the Panigale V4, the V2 and the current S1000RR are the three most aesthetically pleasing bikes in the market. as a very term owner of a 17 S1000R who nearly, oh so nearly, bought a 2021 Panigale V4 I agree with you on the X factor - the sound, the feel, even the smell. However, the head ruled over the heart, because on the ride home from the test ride, after nearly transferring the cash for the Ducati but abiding by my “never buy a vehicle the same day as a test drive/ride”, I thought “this BM is still great”. But that X factor lures me…I talk about absence of a fuel gauge and underwear heat (I live in Australia) when I am being seduced by the X factor

[@COSAman1]

So far so good, thumbs up for mr N😁, your the best!

[@a.jsipple7322]

On a note: My Mid-Life Crisis, was the most fun part of my life. I embraced it and extended it for as long as I could. To answer your Question of which one. I went for the Ducati Diavel , Put a sissy bar on it it so I can go further, for days on end, with my other V-twin friends. Whom are Secretly jealous. Thanks for sharing, Rock On!

[@branthurley2285]

40 mins looking at & listening to exotica. Lovely. But a Gixer was more affordable to buy, maintain & fix. Suzuki nailed it, back in he day. Memories & drems, thanks, MN.

[@shadowred1980]

Maybe a gap that the much rumoured R9 will fill. I've had a 959 for 4 years. It's now been traded for a V4. Buy what you want your only on the planet once.

[@ashhughes9682]

Great vid, I love gsxr 750's. I think you should do a vid on buying a used gsxr do all the things like suspension, brakes and tyres and then do a comparison test to see how good one can be on road and track.

[@philippemarin6022]

I own 2 MV’s for more than 3 years, a 2012 1090 rr brutale, and a f3 675 (with 38000 + kms) never had an issue, whe they’re well maintained (though not cheap to) they’re true reliable bikes, btw I live in France and don’t really have problems with the spare, maybe the difference comes from that.

[@10secondsrule]

Ducati for the looks and ride, MV for the sound. I had a K6 and I liked that bike but I must say it was quite boring on the road. Street 675R and S2R 800 were way more fun for me to ride on the roads as usually smaller bikes are.

[@Fee.1]

Thank you for blessing us with a 40 minute video. You know you could hire me to test bikes in the USA for you. I’m cheap.

[@checker3694]

I have both V2 and superveloce which is basically same bike. MV better road bike, V2 you have to be going at a fair clip for it to soften up, very stiff chassis under 50mph on V2, fabulous track bike.All f3,s and superveloce have weird one pump to hard front brake, the 3cylinder brutale don't have same problem. I put it down to the fact the abs pump is super low 4 inches away from rear wheel. On brutale it's just under high seat and front brake feel is perfect on them,

[@scandimc]

As a owner of the V2 panigale you are spot on with this review, best sportbike on the market in my opinion ;)

[@ianwarren]

Test rode one recently (SMC Sheffield / Josh🙏) I’ve fallen in love with it!

[@COSAman1]

Not close to the MV😆

[@scandimc]

@@COSAman1 The MV is a better track bike, but its very stiff and has less torque than the panigale on the road. Also I think the 3 cylinders are kinda boring and I prefer the character of a V twin. Also its very few MV dealers and they are unreliable, its a nightmare to get new parts from the factory if something goes wrong. It took 6 months for my friend to get a new kickstand.

[@jimperry4420]

Don’t sleep on the Gsxs750 either. It’s a fantastic machine.

[@charlesfields8478]

Picked up a beauty black and orange k8 gsxr 750 at the end of last season to add to my 08 SV650. Got it for 3k CAD. Booking my track days already for the summer. I'm a little bit trepidatious cuz it'll be by far the fastest motorcycle I've ever ridden but can't wait to see if I'm up for it!

[@BizAutomation]

I say, get a used Suzuki GSXR 1000 base with a few thousand miles (well taken care of it's nothing, remember it's a Japanese bike), then spend another 1K on a Nitron Shock, and another 1K on fork upgrades, and for the price of that Ducati, you get a true superbike with amazing handling. If your goal is to pose and you need to impress others, that's another story, in that case get the Duck

[@philipjames3526]

When ‘they don’t have huge power’ - surely context is important. 150bhp is still a big amount! ;-)

[@pistonburner6448]

Yeah, I seriously don't get these hot takes they come up with. Very lightweight bikes with close ratio gearboxes, high amounts of power and torque yet they still pretend they are slow...even while reviewing them as road bikes!

[@timothymills733]

I totally agree, a 750 GSXR is beyond the ability of anyone without a racing contract in their back pocket, so this whole horsepower arms race the factories have been on is kind of ridiculous, and a lot of the journos have been helping to drive it along when they make statements like, "this bike only makes 180BHP so it can't compete with the 200+BHP bikes." 🙂

[@chriss6971]

Had an 06 gsxr 750 still my favourite, just after was my fireblade 954. Mv sounds great.

[@JustForRita]

I finally found out the name of the song you used at the start of this video and in a few other vids! Nutty P - On the Court. Love it!

[@hby7768]

140-150hp is perfect for me, im actually slower on the track on a 200hp bike

[@lynsmith1096]

Good comparison video Michael. I loved my Suzuki GSX-R 750 and had 4 of them.

[@kramnam4716]

Never seen a better description of the qualities of bikes Bravo. Superb! 👏👏💚 Ducati please. 😍

[@twr41cox]

Very well put together bike review that also gushes experience from the host.

[@Reifenthaler]

The Ducati. It takes not a garage, but a showcase to park it in - or, at, best, your living room ♥

[@KhrisRidez]

Awesome Post! MV Gang over here , taking a break from the Supersport world and transition into Naked Sport with the MV Brutale 800rr. 😈🤘🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@bil2kil]

f3 in that color scheme is one of the best looking sportbikes ever built !

[@seanadamson280]

This fella has honed his craft. Fantastic review 🎉

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

Nice production going on!

[@davidbird380]

if only t he F3 had twin headlights, then it would be perfect

[@mrivantchernegovski3869]

Iv got a few year old 636 that the previous owner had gone through the whole bike from brakes to Ohlins and set up ,it did a couple of 6 hour enduro races then on to next bike ,just put on all the stock body work back on which was included, plugged in the lights ,put the number plate on it and got it legal with a bit more social exhaust and have a wet wheel and tire combo and a slick wheel set for summer cause its all quick change tho tank is now a normal one.I love it and its with in my talent level ,I get on a 1000 or a 750 and its way outa my level trying to pin it hard ,better to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow,and yet to have a big bore pass my on our country roads .

[@killer2miller23]

What about the 636? Thoes bikes are best bang for buck today