THE MONOTYPE TIER LIST

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#pokemon #monotype #tierlist

[@superfrubblez6123]

I will say rock is a genuinely awful type in monotype. And that’s why I love it in monotype. You’re doing the most Sisyphusian task possibly but you can still win with its sheer power

[@barnabyssjones]

i love how fitting the tale of sisyphus is for trying to win with rocks. you have to push your shitty rocks all the way up the ladder and they keep falling down

[@elchingon12346]

Sysiphusian is a great word given that he was rolling a boulder

[@Nako3]

The best thing about rock is the second type you can get with it xD

[@baitposter]

@@elchingon12346 It's also said as Sisyphean, alternatively

[@elchingon12346]

@@baitposter sisterfistian

[@1BlueYoshi]

I understand your hesitancy for making this list before, but now that this generation is coming to a close this is a good time to do it. It's nice to look back on how things shook out in gen 8. As for the list itself, I think it's pretty agreeable. I would personally put Electric a bit higher but that might just be my own bias lol. Poor Fighting, I really hope gen 9 gives it literally anything to make it worthwhile haha.

[@elihockman9920]

Gen 8 gave it something great with Urshifu, but unfortunately that something great was OP

[@olivergro7105]

Make a freeze dry fighting attack for fairy's

[@tiaguinho_samba]

the unstoppable force really did collide with the immovable object

[@FioFiorello]

He said he'd never do it but now it's been done

[@ShreddedPizza]

Trick Room Rock is my favorite mono team, however as a Showdown player I understand how bad it is. I still value your insight into monotype and how each type behaves and interacts with other types differently

[@hangfire5944]

that is the most ohio-an team I have ever heard of. whats your team?

[@ShreddedPizza]

@@hangfire5944 Stakataka @ Chople Berry Ability: Beast Boost EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD Brave Nature IVs: 0 Spe - Trick Room - Body Press - Heat Crash - Gyro Ball Diancie @ Leftovers Ability: Clear Body EVs: 252 HP / 184 Atk / 4 SpA / 68 SpD Brave Nature IVs: 0 Spe - Trick Room - Diamond Storm - Body Press - Moonblast Rhyperior @ Weakness Policy Ability: Solid Rock EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD Brave Nature IVs: 0 Spe - Earthquake - Curse - Ice Punch - Stone Edge Gigalith @ Life Orb Ability: Sand Stream EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Stealth Rock - Toxic - Earthquake - Stone Edge Cradily @ Power Herb Ability: Storm Drain EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Meteor Beam - Energy Ball - Sludge Wave - Recover Tyrantrum @ Choice Band Ability: Strong Jaw EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD Adamant Nature - Thunder Fang - Fire Fang - Crunch - Psychic Fangs

[@hangfire5944]

@@ShreddedPizza Thanks!

[@brennantmi5063]

Mono-Normal Main here. Played a lot of high ladder with hyper offense+Blissy and sat at top 30 for a wile. Matchup experience is very op and normal acquires it very easily. Nathan is right that roles are very defined, this makes figuring out your win con very easy. I win a lot because with mono normal it is clear as day what I need to protect and what needs to be removed. Even at high ladder Blissy can win games by just crashing choised mons into the physical attackers until there are only special attackers left. Bewear is the goat and gives you the opportunity to body ghost, steel, dark, poison and water. Normals worst matchup is fire BY FAR. 1-9. Cinderace 6-0's the entire monotype roster for free. Even if they give you Cinderace for free you are still very disadvantaged to win the 5v6.

[@graffitiwands5993]

I’m really interested in playing mono-normal, any others tips you could give?

[@brennantmi5063]

@@graffitiwands5993 Blissy and ditto are very good at "Checkmating" the opponent. Most of my games are about figuring out what pokemon need to be removed in order to checkmate the opponent. Mono normal also has a lot of pokemon that are free setup fodder, but having a ditto in a back completely nullifies that weakness. Chose band Bewear with double edge does 70%+ to all three of poisons tri-regeneartor core and will 2 hit ko them before the recoil takes out Bewear. Most poison and water trainers don't know this and get very confused and sad when they switch in toxipex and it loses most of it's health rendering it useless. I like to pair banded Bewear with specs expanding force Indeedee to blow gaping holes in the other team. I know a lot of normal trainers like scarf Indeedee and find success with it, but mono normal has no shortage of good scarfers and with specs if all the opponents pokemon have less than 317 speed, specs Indeedee with sweep their entire team no questions asked. Checkmate. As for the other slots you have Diggersby, Heliolisk, and Braviary. Having a ground type is huge in the meta, but Diggersby is slow and frail with minimal utility. Since Normal has power to spare Diggersby not that useful, although I think there is unexplored potential with a double dance set with agility and swords dance as agility makes Diggersby very good. Heliolisk is a bad pokemon that is too frail to help in the water match up that is only good at being a fast volt switch user. Some teams love a fast volt switch users, but not many. Braviary is a diet Staraptor that can either be a great scarfted pivot or an acceptable physical wall. I will almost always take one on my mono normal teams for some role due to it's amazing synergy with Blissy and Bewear, your two best pokemon. As for other options Obstagoon is weak, Snorlax is weak, the poygons are weak, there are very limited. The secret sauce that got me near the top of the ladder was specs boomburst Exploud. It acts like a second Indeedee that can overwork an opponents special sponge to bring it in range for indeedee to be able to finish off and run wild. It also is deceptively bulky and can often live a stray unboosted hit and oneshot the opponent back effectively making it a 5v5 match, something that favors normal. I find it leads very well in about half my matches. Thus my go to team was boots Blissey with Banded Bewear, Scarf on Bravirary and ditto, with specs on Indeedee and Exploud. You have to be clinically insane to play a team like that, but I am. Normal has enough flexibility so that you don't have to play an all in team like that; if you build a normal team I think you need boots Blissey, scarf ditto, choised Indeedee and a Bewear. Some kind of Bravirary too. There a quite a few ways to model that core to your liking with the sixth slot being able to bring in a flex slot to fill out what ever style you are going for.

[@graffitiwands5993]

@@brennantmi5063 Wow! This is so thorough, really appreciate the advice here. Going to go remake my mono normal team now :)

[@asiermaster]

He referenced Rangchus Panda. A man of culture

[@siriuscord]

Not sure if you'll see this, but wanted to thank you for your content. I started watching while trying to learn more about monotype competitive on showdown, and just a couple days ago it culminated in me breaking into top 500 on the ladder. Keep up the awesome work man! Excited to see what Gen 9 brings!

[@NathanLikesChicken]

so glad to hear that! hope you continue to enjoy the game

[@siriuscord]

@@NathanLikesChicken absolutely! I'm enjoying it right now, and super excited to see what comes of it

[@alex4wood]

Loved the vid, and excited to see if u make that “valuable Pokémon in its type” tier list

[@cutthroat795]

The funny thing about the lower tier monotypes is that stuff like ice, rock, and fighting are mandatory coverage moves in regular teams. All of the low tier monotypes though, do not have good dual type synergy I feel

[@haidynwendlandt2479]

I think that monotype in my opinion is focused very strongly on the strength of your type defensively rather than offensively. Even traditionally offensive types such as flying, electric, and ghost, that are very strong, have qualities that make them great defensive types in monotype, namely immunities or singular weaknesses. The worst three types Rock, Fighting, and if you exclude grass because it's not really offensive or defensive, Psychic, are all weak to very common types and, even if they have very strong offensive capabilities, don't have chances against types they lose to.

[@FunnyProductions24]

Monotype rock really is brutal. Great video tho! I listened to this almost like a podcast, and it made work much more enjoyable

[@bobbyzeitgeist1842]

This whole video seems like Nathan trying to convince me that every type besides bug, fighting, and rock is S tier

[@bloqstar]

Definitely late to the show but just found your channel and great content man. Glad I found you

[@patricklynch4074]

Rip me by two favorite types are rock and grass. My thoughts on Rock psychic and fighting are that every monotype team wants to have a Pokemon with that secondary typing on their team and makes great use of it, but making a whole team out of that is bad news. They can compliment a team really nicely but their flaws show up too harshly if they're the only thing on the team

[@patricklynch4074]

When you started singing cradily's praises i was all "THATS MY ROCK GRASS BOY"

[@CymbalXL]

Hyped for this video!

[@DeathBane1x1]

Haven't watched the vid yet, but I'm only here to listen to you talk about how Dark is good as fuck even without Urshifu

[@mitkru16]

The top half of the list contains a lot of immunities, and having a variety of secondary types with immunities is so incredibly valuable; that's why I imagine Flying and Steel are at the top! As a Mono-Psychic player, I feel kind of special that it's low tier haha

[@lizzymalefic138]

Hey man thanks for this it was really informative. I've always wanted to get into mono but never really bothered. Maybe Scarlet and Violets the time to give it a go for fun, cheers!

[@dr.wrinklebrain2667]

Glad you waited, but even more glad you made it!

[@Spiney09]

As a filthy casual looking in to the competitive scene, I have to imagine monotype has discovered some interesting strategies over the years, maybe even some that made it into the other metas.

[@babybababofski7908]

Mono ice vs Scizor is so, so hard to deal with. I've resorted to sash will o wisp / spikes / taunt / destiny bond froslass and pray it either hits will o or takes it out with destiny bond And then volc comes out after and you cry

[@patricklynch4074]

Krookodile disagrees with "dark has no ground types"

[@Sljm8D]

This is a lot easier if you pretend that the people you're playing in versus are just really complicated AI. These aren't "pvp viability tiers," these are DIFFICULTY LEVELS

[@MadMalMan]

This is probably the world tier list I've seen in any game which is pretty impressive!

[@minigungameryt2525]

the world? glad you didnt put the worst lol

[@ChaseDaBull]

Hey there. Love the content. My friend recommended this to me about a week ago and I'm watching vids from months ago already. That being said I wanna go against the grain here and argue rock should absolutely be higher than bottom of the barrel. Ive been a mono rock player for years and am arguing the subtypes of rock Pokemon are what do them in rather than the type themselves. Nihilago for example gets much more play than not TTar Rock types. Why? Poison subtyping gives it a modern competitive edge. Rock types might lean towards higher defense stats but their subtypes put them in a situation where they're much more likely to be hit by a super effective attack. Again, much love to the content. Looking forward to the next vid.

[@AaronTats]

Can you make a video on your thoughts about the leaked paradox mons in monotype? After looking at them, a few of them seem to fill roles far better than some mons that are currently viable and it would be cool to see your input about it.

[@NathanLikesChicken]

think I'll probably just wait till we have all the info. no point speculating on something that will be outdated almost immediately

[@AaronTats]

@@NathanLikesChicken Sounds good man, thank you for the videos!

[@spencerbrummett6712]

I'd love to see you play monotype nat dex at some point. I've mentioned before that I drafted grass in a league, but the reason I had so much fun is bc I used all 4 weathers in that league with weather ball. Swift swim ludicolo, mega venusaur (but I didn't have to mega), abomasnow, cradily, rotom, etc. It was a great league.

[@yomigg72]

Grass is awesome in monotype national dex

[@spencerbrummett6712]

@@yomigg72 yeah I totally forgot to mention Rillaboom. I had some really good mons.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

54:27 this was so funny thank you 😂👍

[@melffyrabby1009]

Psychic and bug are super fun to play in monotype so I attempted to build a combined strategy. It’s mono psychic but it uses sticky web to enable specs users, it’s pretty fun and surprisingly consistent but it’s kinda eh on high ladder

[@natehollenbeck6348]

What psychic type gets sticky webs?

[@melffyrabby1009]

@@natehollenbeck6348 orbeetle

[@doshbee567]

The first vid I saw from Nathan was the vid where he roasted mono rock and I loved every second of it

[@stupidfakename5661]

What i take away from this video is that rock is secretly the strongest monotype team if you just master it

[@NathanLikesChicken]

Absolutely correct

[@stupidfakename5661]

@@NathanLikesChicken perfect. Then i will leave hatecomments in about three to 5 business days flaming and painting you as a fraud because your suggestion didn't get me to 1.800

[@AllanG1333]

As a mono ground player, I believe ice type is S++ Also please someone ban Galarian Darmanitan

[@david-melekh-ysroel]

Do you know if there were a mon with all the 18 types, the only way to hit it with a super effective move is to use a Rock type move

[@zacksomers1811]

hey nathan im trying to actually make a team that can win pvp in scarlet and im wanting to use steel type mainly! steelix is my fav but i dont think hes in the game :( what kind of steel teams are good in scarlet?

[@lagspike7763]

Putting ground in top 4 is fucked up how am I supposed to keep pretending my type is bad

[@andreakatz6109]

Can you please make a monograss guide ? I'm struggling to beat mono fire( against sun boosted v-create) and monoflying

[@sedricgranger]

It’s unfortunate there aren’t any grass types with flash fire. Water types have a sap sipper mon and tons of moms not weak to grass, fire types have a water absorb mon, grass types really need a flash fire and it may take another gen to get that. Thick fat mega venusaur was the best counter but unfortunately, until that comes back, Cradily with a rock move is pretty much the only option. Also dash breloom with spore and rock tomb can help and a scarf virizion with stone edge are other possible answers…maybe a chlorophyll earth power venusaur in the right matchup. It’s tough sledding. I hate when I go against mono fire and mono flying but every once in a blue moon, I do win with mono grass. Fire against grass is probably one of the most lopsided matchups in monotype

[@raw-b6658]

I’ve been playing a lot of adv lately and the switch back to modern is jarring, I forgot how fast paced the game is

[@kerthwack8470]

oh my gosh he read the discord incredible

[@peet-janissen5838]

o well mono grass champ here I come

[@haidynwendlandt2479]

Mono rock is super fun imo, but you have to be used to taking a lot of bs in order to handle it.

[@igeomagician]

I wonder how this might change in Natdex monotype. Water is probably s because of m swampert and gren

[@Raph920]

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[@christinacarter2550]

HELLO, good video! 💖💛🧡💖❤💝

[@drewbernert7050]

Day 2 of asking Nate to use life orb sheer force Alakazam in AAA with psychic, shadow ball, focus blast, nasty plot

[@robertocorti9845]

Can we buff Gravity to make all rock moves accurate for 5 turns?

[@laylaalder2251]

I understand your fears, but as a Dryadmon trainer, I will always bring my Dryadmons into battle. Gonna see how good I can get my lovely grass ladies, regardless of how meta they are!

[@ohnoesgoes]

Why does the dragon type symbol look like Navi from Oot?

[@Wellshem]

Bug have insane pokemon, very unique and powerful yet they are better with other team 🤣

[@PopcornBunni]

Question, why bring up stuff like tarrakion and other dualtypes when the tier list is supposed to be for mono-types?

[@johncalabro8710]

Have you got a Gen 7 monotype views?

[@alejandrovasquez4948]

Normal is my favorite but it is not that good. When I ladder clime y use water instead since it is much better but I still play normal more often because I really like it.

[@Life0fJ2J]

What’s the website he went to to find those simple team I’m try to get into mono used to playing random battles

[@NathanLikesChicken]

Just google smogon monotype sample teams, it should take you to the forum page I was on

[@destructorthedestroyer7651]

Man Psychic types have just really fallen off the cliff because of soo many changes made that just hinder their viability. Dark and Ghost no longer getting their stab resisted by steels is soo huge for those types ESPECIALLY Ghost. Knock Off getting a base power increase when a pokemon is carrying a held item is horrendous for psychic types. Pursuit being gone was really nice but there needs to be more done honestly. Psychic in general has just been getting an absolute beating. It's crazy to think about that even with U-Turn, Shadow Ball, and Knock off everywhere in the later gens. SOMEHOW Psychic types are still somehow good and in some tiers are some of the best pokemon in the tier in 6v6 smogon singles tier. I mean Calyrex-S, Necrozma-Dusk-Mane are the kings in Ubers, Metagross, Gardevoir, Starmie actually really good in UU. It would be nice if Psychic got more resistances or something because Dark and Ghost getting these massive buffs is really messing up Psychic types hard. Like if even MEWTWO of all pokemon is getting power crept on you know there's an issue.

[@RabblesTheBinx]

Dark-type got neutral vs. Steel as a trade-off for picking up a new weakness and type that resists it. One that was applied to a whole bunch of already good Psychic-types.

[@destructorthedestroyer7651]

@@RabblesTheBinx I mean that's true but Ghost is soo stupidly overpowered as a type. Its immune to 2 types, and has 2 resistances to bug and poison for some reason. That's soo stupid in itself and Ghost hits almost everything for neutral or super effective with ONLY normal types having an immunity and normal types are pretty garbage and lower tier and Dark types being really good but pretty much mandatory on every team. It pretty much makes psychic soo much worse because of that. We've kind of reached this point where honestly Psychic just is a terrible type these days. Like Steel resists, Dark is immune, takes Super Effective from Ghost, Dark and Bug and resists practically nothing besides Fighting and who cares about resisting Psychic. I'm amazed that Psychic types are somehow still able to be good in a meta so stacked against them its crazy. This type chart they made needs some massive overhauls like Psychic needs MORE resists and 1 immunity at the very least and nerf the hell out of Ghost and nerf Knock Off because its stupid. Knock Off is already good even at a low base power it doesn't need a buff lol.

[@jamo1563]

in gen 7 showdown monotype i got to 1600 with a bug team

[@Jc-sd2rj]

MonoCHAD?? i kneel

[@THEDRUMMERJOSH]

I think monotype is the most interesting competitive formats. Unfortunately, individual matchups are super unbalanced, but laddering up through a diverse ladder is truly impressive.

[@Junya01]

Playing monotype tournaments should help with the volildity of the ladder, cuz at least then u can predict what ur opponent might bring and counter team accordingly in a 2/3 best of format

[@stayhumble-.-]

I find it funny how fighting is awful monotype team wise, yet dominates a lot of playthroughs with many gens

[@serenolopez-darwin1975]

Water type not S tier? Pretty surprising.

[@solarbear7229]

Inb4 psychic is at the bottom

[@JmastersJ]

how old are you Nathan? rlly curious

[@JmastersJ]

at least give me a range :P

[@yoshistrings]

This is just the type tier list

[@haveatyouvillain1033]

is there such thing as monotype Ubers?

[@9ineee]

correct me if i'm wrong but i don't think there's enough legendaries of certain types to make a full mono team

[@babybababofski7908]

@@9ineee I mean you don't have to run a full team of legendaries in Ubers, plenty of good teams run some mons from OU or even below. Slurpuff has a decent niche cause it can pretty reliably set up sticky web for instance. Blissey is still a great special wall and there are countless others

[@9ineee]

@@babybababofski7908 my bad, i forgot about normal uber mons although i think the full team thing still applies to like 2-3 types 😅

[@solan2915]

hope people dont just start using the top tiers lol