The Moogerfooger : A Retrospective - 20 Years of Moog Effects

[@OscillatorSink]

8:26 - oh shit, it me! Great video - I always lusted over these as a guitarist, bummed out that I never took the plunge. That phaser sounds amazing, so thick and chewy!

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

😂😂😂😂it totally is dude!!!! I didn’t know you were a guitarist though! Do you have a guitar with synths video?? 👀👀👀

[@OscillatorSink]

@@NoirEtBlancVie ugh my secret's out 😩. I was going to do one, but honestly my heart wasn't in it. My pedal collection is... It's out of control. Something like 30 fuzz pedals right now. That's just the fuzz pedals. Terrible scenes. I'll drop you a link to something that might be a little contrasting with my ambient noodlings and borderline ASMR...

[@BackspinZX]

Man, these synth history videos are awesome. Love these. You do such a good job of laying things out in a comprehensive way without going too overboard, but while still giving plenty of detail. The story behind these things are just as fascinating as the sounds they can create.

[@shane_l8085]

Love my Foogers, I snapped up a 104m when I read it would be discontinued as I thought it would be a good investment, even if it was a guilty purchase at the time. Bought the ring mod shortly after. Last I checked the 104m was going for around £2k on eBay but I will never let it go.

[@jonpatchmodular]

That's such a gorgeous collection of pedals... Love that phaser

[@mikedurden]

If I had to guess, I think that they maybe discontinued the Moogerfooger line in order to make them available as a eurorack line of effects in the near future. Seeing that eurorack community and interest has continued to increased in recent years, it would make sense to make the transition from the guitar pedal format into module format. This would also be in line with their trend of releasing eurorack compatible products, i.e. mother, grandmother. subharmonicon, etc. If they released them in module format I'd definitely be interested, even though I'd still hang on to my classic Moogerfoogers because of the beautiful design and great tactile nature.

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Moogerfooger Eurorack would be amazing!!!!😍

[@jeremyrmcmahan]

I also wonder if they were discontinued just due to lack of resources and dedicated labor into other projects, ie using their limited bucket brigade chips on the matriarch rather then making more of the MF-104m. They released that limited run pretty soon after they released the matriarch if I remember correctly.

[@mikedurden]

@@jeremyrmcmahan They didn't use the limited bucket brigade chips on the Matriarch. If they did, then that would mean they could only make a limited amount of Matriarchs with that delay. The chip used on the MF-104 is one that is out of production and so they have to use a different delay design for the Matriarch. This is from an interview on the Musicians Friend website: " The Moogerfooger MF-104 delay uses a vintage BBD chip that is no longer in production. As less and less of these vintage BBDs become available, it becomes nearly impossible for us to build new MF-104s (for our most recent run, we were able to source enough vintage BBDs for just 100 units). Matriarch uses a circuit design from the MF-104m and Moog 500 Series Analog Delay, with a few tweaks to allow for the use of a modern and readily available BBD. Matriarch was the perfect opportunity for us to continue the development of our analog delay designs, while offering a new sonic pallet in the Moog Semi-Modular family of synthesizers."

[@jeremyrmcmahan]

@@mikedurden ahh you are correct, i looked into more and I found an article saying they used vintage chips for the MF-104s (that's why they don't make them anymore) and they are using a modern BBD chip for the Matriarch.

[@MRGO0OSE]

And now we know they made the decision to release them as VST models 😫 I guess it lowers the barrier to getting the MF sound for the masses, but its kinda unfortunate that was the lines fate in some way

[@modularsynthguy6694]

You forgot to mention the MP-201?

[@Rhythmicons]

Those white foogers are the Lunar Impact which was commissioned by Nova Musik (now Kraft Music) out of MIlwaukee. "The caps on the jacks on the back are black."

[@NullStaticVoid]

the brains of the setup is the MP201. AKA the gas pedal. It was designed to provide 'presets' for connected Moogerfoogers. It gave the owner 4 CV or gate outs as well as MIDI DIN and USB connectivity. It seems to rarely have been used just to bop a Moogerfooger with an LFO. Rather it quickly became the heart of many performing experimental musicians setups. It had this great ability to link MIDI and CV gear. Ironically, in all the setups I've seen the MP201. Many many users never used the gas pedal function for anything. Setting it up on a table next to their eurorack and patchable synths. I wish they would make am MP201 MKII with twice the CV outputs and no gas pedal. Oh yeah I think you skipped the MIDI MurF as well.

[@thomastraylor6337]

Man lots of talent here. Great explanations and demos.

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Thanks Thomas!

[@my4trackmachine]

I remember seeing the Mooger Fooger line in shops when I was starting out. I was always intrigued but was astounded how expensive they were compared to the guitar pedals they were sitting next to. It ended up deterring me from exploring them for years. When the MF mini line came out I had a better grasp on what they were and their purpose but ended up skipping out as I mostly worked in the box. After watching this video, it seems like I missed out both times. I would love to see more Moog pedals.

[@adrielnicholas8104]

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[@izaiahavery705]

@Adriel Nicholas flixportal :D

[@adrielnicholas8104]

@Izaiah Avery Thanks, I signed up and it seems to work =) I appreciate it!

[@izaiahavery705]

@Adriel Nicholas You are welcome xD

[@plaguethom]

I bought the Ring Mod a month ago, and it is amazing! Feels more like an instrument than an effect. Also the secret tremolo and the ability to crossmodulate makes takes it over the top. Worth the money for sure. PS: I'm afraid your video rekindled my desire for the phaser...

[@MrAnselm77]

I’m glad to see you making videos again

[@critterkllr]

I used to have every Moogerfooger for my guitar pedalboard. I was in a situation where I had to sell them. I'm not sentimental about music gear at all, but I really miss those pedals. Moog has a way of creating things that you can play and connect with on a different level. They understand how we interface with them and they have the ability to cover a broad range of sounds while still sounding like a Moog. I hope they release a new line of pedals that take it further and have semi-modular connections for the rest of the semi-modular synths. Maybe they can approach effect as expanders that can be patched into their synths, while still being pedalboard friendly? The Minifoogers were just standard effects done in a way that guitar players are already used to and lost sight of what makes the Moogerfoogers magical.

[@Andrew-K]

Aaaand...they're back!

[@JAdeWii_]

I learned something today

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

This is what happens when you use editing. Lol

[@septembersoul5938]

I really wish they would bring some of these back. I'm not sure if it's a parts issue, or if they just weren't selling well. The reseller market is a bit much. Moog would be doing a service to their customers, if they re-released these. Even if it was a limited run. They just released the plugins, so maybe they're thinking about the hardware too.

[@teilzeitrwachsn]

Saw the title, haven't seen the video yet, but already loving it knowing what I'm about to see... 🥰

[@teilzeitrwachsn]

Not disappointed. Beautiful pedals, beautiful summary of the history. Now wanting them all even more... Thanks for that. 😄

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

You’re very welcome! I hope this gives a good clif notes of pedals with a somewhat rich history. Hopefully no one at Moog sees this and corrects.

[@a11pu1poj]

Hey, thanks for the high quality videos. They inspire me to jam out with odd presets / custom patches of synths that would usually be in my closet

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Nice! I’m super happy that you gain something from my stuff. I feel like I get a lot more from my KZbin channel than people know. Making this video was super enlightening!

[@LouisSerieusement]

Thank you for sharing :) ! I really love when you explain stuff :p great voice, great researsh work, straight to the point but precise as always !

[@wilfig]

Nice video. Moog gear has also been my favorite. I own a 1st gen CP-251, a Big Briar Ring Mod, and 104Z Delay. I use them with my Box 11 Dotcom system. They play very nicely together. I knew I should've bought a Phaser when they were available. By the way, what's that groove playing underneath the video? Nice, deep chord progressions! An original?

[@cafestudiosinc.1702]

Good Job man, getting it done!

[@aeropilot4419]

Interesting that you like the ClusterFlux ... that was the first one I purchased after seeing the review of it by Nick Jaffe ... then came a Super Delay and a Low Pass Filter with a MOOG expression pedal ... very fun and unique effects I used for my guitar before I plunged into modular. Great to see you back : )

[@nebula0697]

Due to discontinuing these they go for crazy prices. For instance you can only get a minifooger delay for about 300 dollars now, and that's two or three times the price of any number of other very good sounding delay pedals.

[@jeremyrmcmahan]

Personally I'm obsessed with the Fooger line and went a little wild with it over the past couple years. Picked up one of the last Mf-101s news that Sweetwater had and eventually purchased the Mf-102 and Mf-107 off Craiglist (both in white too!). As far as the minifoogers go, I have the boost, chorus, delay, and flanger, all of which are awesome. Finally picked up a CP-251 this year and totally opens everything up to another level. Would love the phaser and the clusterflux...and of the course the delay though unless I have stupid amounts of money I'll probably never buy one. Awesome video though and thanks for making it.

[@JamesIsCommenting]

I wish they'd re release these.

[@MattVelic]

I remember when these first came out, but coming from the guitar side of things, I always thought they were SO HUGE to be put on a pedalboard. Need to really check them out now that I've come to the synth side.

[@xperimentador]

Moog Moogerfooger Facebook group: You are welcome to join! facebook.com/groups/moogerfooger/

[@garth_garthalgar]

Great video! I ran my bass through an MF-102 back in the early ‘00s.

[@TenisDimants]

I had the Moog Drive and it is one of only two pedals I miss and will get again with the first chance. The other one is Line 6 FM4.

[@je7647]

I still have a murf and had the phaser, these imo are the best pedals

[@peterfedak9682]

What is that splitter box for patching in the lower left corner of the rack mount shot at 9:25? Looks like that would be helpful for getting these into a euro rack synth setup.

[@shufflephunk]

patchulator 8000

[@ryanfantus6258]

Nice! 9:44 is my pedalboard. It’s changed a bit since then. I assume this pic was grabbed from my now defunct reddit account haha. Check out Vongon pedals for the two midi controllers at the bottom left. He makes stellar pedals that you’d probably really enjoy - Paragraphs and Ultrasheer are original ideas and are sick.

[@mistercheetah9717]

Always top notch content sir!

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Thank you!

[@karlmanchur9906]

I use the MF-101 on my bass guitar pedal board as a wah and I've never looked back.

[@mezzofortississimo]

Awesome vid

[@ShallieDragon]

That phaser tho. It sounds BEAUTIFUL. And it seems like it can work in SO many circumstances. I'd love to get a MF pedal someday, because I feel like they're a part of synth history at this point. But I don't know if I'd be able to find one at a decent price.

[@NondoPondo]

Good vid!!!

[@MarcoPolux]

time for update, the Digital MoogerFoogers are out, 7 of them. What do you think? (it might be the only way I can get a MF.... although maybe not; do you think they can really emulate the reals?)

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

So I have the Plugins, I’ll give my review: So the Low Pass filter one is my favorite so far, I’m using it right now on the Halloween Special music, it really takes the edge off anything I’ve fed it. 2nd of course I used the Phaser, so, it sounds like the Phaser, but at the same time it doesn’t…like, I know the 12 stage phaser too well. I could probably pick it out side by side hardware vs plug-in. That’s said, they sound like the hardware in a way, maybe a 2D version of the hardware, but at the prices now for the hardware, I’d buy the plugins, that said. I prefer Waves Kaleidoscope as my overall chorus phaser in the box. That’s what I actually use.☺️

[@MarcoPolux]

@@NoirEtBlancVie So that confirms. I believe this are cool but more like toys for sound design; although great, I don't see myself also substituting my Delays, Phaser and Filters with this set of digital MF. I will sure end up buying them to use with my analog gear in the DAW...but later, no priority. Thanks for your very to the point review 👍

[@rars0n]

Sad to see the Moogerfoogers go (I know it's wrong, but I'm pronouncing these with the traditional "oo" sound). Mike Einziger of Incubus used a Moogerfooger in his pedal setup, to great effect.

[@Riktenstein]

As usual a great video.

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Thank you man!

[@Cesiumswimsuit]

I’ve always wanted the MF-104... 🤤

[@leyetnin1]

Used to own 11 Foogers, now I’m down to 8. They’re amazing!

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Ooo, tell me all the ones you have!

[@leyetnin1]

@@NoirEtBlancVie 2 ring modulators, Freq box, cluster flux, MidiMurf, phaser and low pass filter.

[@leyetnin1]

And CP 251

[@leyetnin1]

@@NoirEtBlancVie The cluster flux is absolutely mind blowing. It has a Feedback insert. I definitely use control voltage with all of them with the three Moog synthesizers.

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

@@leyetnin1 maaaaan, I need a cluster flux soooooo bad

[@anastasia0zardonova]

Great video!

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Thank you!

[@DAVIDGREGORYKERR]

If they are going to create a follow up the Ring Thing then what about using the Tayloe Mixer with a LT700 driving a audio phase shifting network which drives the Tayloe Mixer proper which will have a clock at 4 KHZ to 20 KHZ which drives a 74AC74 which drives the 74HC152 which outputs out through a LT700 transformer to a effect control then a analogue mixer with the input signal to produce the desired output.

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

I’m just so impressed that you can rattle all these components.

[@itchyvinyl]

I have the 101, 103, CP, Mini Boost, and Mini Trem. I may let the Boost go, but I have to try and keep the rest. I don’t actually like the way any of the delays sound. Just me.

[@gauthiersoubirous2706]

hi does anyone knows if it is possible in any of theses pedals, to send a rate via midi ?

[@robertsyrett1992]

I'm down to just the lowpass filter moogerfooger, but they were an awesome range. If prices don't get to crazy, I might try and track down the phaser unit again, that thing makes anything sound lush.

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Noooooooo what happened to them all!?!? I think maybe I’ll want to try and get a few more, but which ones did you have.

[@robertsyrett1992]

@@NoirEtBlancVie It was getting to be too much, with three eurorack cases the moogerfoogers were gathering dust. I had the ring modulator, freq box, phaser, and lowpass right before I decided eurorack would be more practical from a patching and power supply standpoint. The lowpass filter I got back in 2000 and 20 years later I still love to tweak it during recording running it into the minifooger delay. The rest of them kind of became redundant with the modules I picked up, and after the line was discontinued they all went up in value. It seems the right thing to do to sell gear you don't use, after all I am not starting a synth museum. But It might have been short sighted to sell the phaser though.

[@aeropilot4419]

@@robertsyrett1992 I have a minifooger delay as well and love it

[@robertsyrett1992]

@@aeropilot4419 It's fantastic unit! I have used the much more expensive M-104 and M-104M and found that most of the time I was using it for fixed delay times with a little drive. The minifooger really has that 104 sound when you turn up the feedback.

[@Andor.]

Was just look around for some Moogerfoogers after rewatching ur pedal video last week, really want the Freqbox somday

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Riiigt, the Freqbox seem like one of the most appealing of all the pedals! I bet this video is going to ruin prices if it gets enough traction.

[@aeropilot4419]

@@NoirEtBlancVie Prices have already been climbing ... I think I paid a bit over $700 for my super delay from Sweetwater when they were available, and recently saw one for sale for over $2,000 !

[@christopherscholl2852]

Do you find that chaining the foogers leads to signal loss? I find it fairly difficult to get a good balance between wet and dry signals between drive and output settings on the foogers. I only lack the CP-251 and Freqbox, and I fear that I may never get them at current prices. I might break up the band, though. If my 104M Super Delay keeps going up in price, I might be able to get a whole synth for it in trade, LOL.

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Hey Christopher, I agree, it seems like there’s a big difference between the wet and dry levels and even in the video you can see how I have to turn up the volume between off and on with the effects. It’s a good and bad thing, I just feel like these have so much headroom I love it!

[@marleenvos4126]

You can put each moogerfooger behind a true bypass looper pedal, bypassing the drive that way. Amp-fx has great true bypass loopers

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Marleen Vos thanks Marleen, great tip!

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

A MoFo pedal yeah...one day I will own one.

[@l1fef0rm]

I should have bought that phaser....

[@connerdacus1344]

F in the chat for the light going out

[@eraofacidrain]

10:46 REEE

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Reeeeeeeeeeeee 😂👏🏾👏🏾i was so over recording this video at that reeeee.

[@eraofacidrain]

@@NoirEtBlancVie I CAN'T STOP WATCHING IT, what have you done to me? 😂

[@LORDLOBO]

Should I bother picking up the MF-104M?

[@LORDLOBO]

Et merci beaucoup pour toute tu fais monsieur noir et blanc vie...

[@LORDLOBO]

Or get something like the Strymon NightSky?

[@AnalogSoundBanks]

I have them all, you are welcome to come jam sometime!!

[@AnalogSoundBanks]

A MF-109 WOULD BE AWESOME!!

[@tonysoundslike6410]

How are you so well groomed during this pandemic?

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Best KZbin channel around.

[@elitefitrea]

Anyone know about good alternatives to the MF-101? I had an old one that stopped working. Since then I've been using a pedal called the 'Evil Filter' by Death by Audio. It's pretty cool with a strange envelope follower that I like sometimes and hate other times. I've also seen this thing lately called the Long Life by Fairfield Circuitry. It's a pedal that can integrate with modular synths which seems pretty interesting. I'm trying to talk my bassist into buying it to create overtone chords with distorted bass lines. I'm always looking for more filter pedals for guitar! If you know of any, please leave a comment!

[@yaking9610]

Have moog repair?

[@elitefitrea]

Ali Hamid not as fun as trying new products

[@kellymerrill5294]

I sold my mooger murf to buy 2 mutable instruments eurorack modules. Don't regret but these things never lost their value.

[@theroyalcrane]

👍🏿😊

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Thanks

[@SteveHorne]

F

[@NoirEtBlancVie]

Thank you. It was painful.

[@MrAnselm77]

I just want 1 ...........anyone 😔