The Most Affordable SUPER BIKE EVER?! - Winspace T1500D REVIEW

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0:00 Intro
0:54 Who is Winspace
1:40 Partnership Disclaimer
2:09 Why is the Price so Low?
3:30 The Ride Feel
4:04 Downside of a Stiff Bike
4:23 The Frame Geometry and Aero Gains
4:46 What about the Heavy Sprinters?
5:10 The Frame durability and Sizing
6:00 The Paintjob
6:43 The Hyper Wheels
6:51 Wrap Up
7:17 12 000$+ bikes
7:39 Promo Code
7:59 Outro

[@WinspaceBikes]

Thanks for your hard work and thanks for your honesty. If anyone has questions about sizing and fit they can drop us a message via our website, our sizes are a bit different to the traditional and our frames are unapologetically aggressive, but send us a message and we can work it out for you. 💯

[@vietnguyen4312]

Hi Winspace I heard there is a 60mm Hyper wheel coming out? If so do you know when?

[@jasondoe718]

About the sizes... do you recommend having a bike fit on my current bike to have a better idea on the dimensions I should look for before purchasing one of your frame? Charles mention he had to move up a size (small to medium) but in another video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJaueKyXnbV2idU) Joe mentionned he had to go down in size (52 to 47).

[@WinspaceBikes]

@@vietnguyen4312 There's a 65mm version coming. It's taken a while because we were trying to get it a bit lighter. The pair is about 140g heavier than the 50mm version. The 50mm version is already super aero (Hambini video coming soon) but... hey, the 65mm looks cooler.

[@WinspaceBikes]

@@jasondoe718 I don't wanna speak for him, but charles was referring to the "size" in terms of letters; S, M, L... etc. Whereas Joe was talking about the numbered sizes western brands make up for their sizes. Like a specialized 52cm Tarmac. The seattube is only about 49cm on that bike. Whereas our 49cm bike; the seat tube is actually 49cm. If you show our geometry chart to your bike fitter, he'll be able to set up his rig to mimic our bikes and then recommend one to you. We also have quite a lot of experience transferring peoples old fits onto our frames, so you can always send us a message. Hope that clears things up. :) Sorry for hijacking the comments section.

[@jasondoe718]

@@WinspaceBikes thank you for the answer. The "hijacking" is probably somehow good for Charles's youtube algorithm ;)

[@brianmessemer2973]

Hi Charles, just came from your new turned-in hoods video. Great review of this bike. I've been a long-time subscriber to China Cycling so I've known about the existence of these awesome Chinese bikes. I've ridden a Canyon Endurace with relaxed geometry since I got back into riding in 2018 and this year I decided on putting an aerobike in the stable. For a while I did think about both Yoeleo and Winspace. Of the two, the Winspace is the one I'd want. In the end I stayed within my preferred, known brand and got the Canyon Aeroad, Ultegra Di2 build. I got the Alpecin-Fenix team replica build which is a real looker if you like a white bike. I'm very happy with my Aeroad; it's stiff, fast, racy, has great handling and is thousands less than its competition. But the Winspace is an even greater value still. And boy what a looker your bike is. Absolute beauty. Enjoyed this review and loving the channel. Best of luck, looking forward to watching the channel grow. ✌️

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thank you so much for sharing man!! 💯 Nice bike you have! Maybe one day we'll see you on a winspace hehehe

[@TGShunai]

Why do you think the Winspace is greater value? I thought he said it was 4k in the video and you can get an Aeroad with di2 and DTswiss wheels for that same price, even cheaper if you go for mechanical shifting.

[@2120musiclover]

Love that you have the full review here! There are a few channels who keep teasing at doing a review, but they never do! I think when I get a carbon bike, I’ll be getting one. Thank you!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hell yes! Glad you like it :) Don't forget to use my 10% discount code :)

[@Chimy1423]

Thank you very much for this incredible video. Sick and tired to see prices so high from today's big brands. Is totally ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, for sure those bikes like C, T, S, G and others they are pretty good. But, I can't understand how a bicycle could be more expensier than a motorcycle motorcycle. Once again thank you, that Winspace bike is now in my bucket list.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Ahah yup. I definitely agree. Especially when racing, you don't want an expensive bike. Also don't understands how a motorcycle is cheaper than a bike..

[@pmb0001]

A good enthusiastic review - i subscribed!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks man!!! 🚀

[@paulgaida2601]

Great review Charles!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thank you Paul!

[@ChinaCycling]

It's always reaffirming when people reach similar conclusions to me. ✌ Lets me know I'm not going crazy. Nice review. I loved the B-roll. Was that the Mrs on the camera for the panning shots? 😁

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hell yes!!! Ahahahah no I had a friend who helped for that video and photoshoot 😂

[@bbqreunie984]

Seems to me that China Cycling and Charles Ouimet are the same persons. The voice sounds the same as well the way of talking.

[@9118693223]

of course others will come to similar conclusions like you. this is a true high end bike for very low end money

[@HosfordMark]

Charles thanks for the content. I went through some of your other videos and was wondering what rear bike light your using. Sorry for the random question. Because of your review and videos I hope to order a t1500 soon. I live in Vancouver and it’s great to see a Canadian promoting cycling and to share your passion. Thanks

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey Mark! Thank you so much for your kind words. I really appreciate it!!! I had a Lezyne rear light, retail about 40-50$. But I just got my hands on a new Garmin Varia 515 radar light. and it's AMAZING!!! I dont know why I havent get it before. I will eventually do a review on this one!

[@Z1MWOODS]

Looks good. well done good review and good luck on your youtube and pro career.

[@CharlesOuimet]

thank you man!!! appreciate the kind words

[@WanderingSword]

is the rim brake version lighter and just as stiff, and is the rear brake mounted on the chainstays?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey! Yes it is a bit lighter and same stiffness. You can watch my girlfriend build video on my channel, she got a rim and mechanical build. And yes the frame require a chainstay brake

[@Benjaber74]

Thank you Charles I'm diffently going to get one

[@CharlesOuimet]

hell yes!!

[@hlim431]

Gorgeous!!! My next bike...

[@CharlesOuimet]

nice dude!!!

[@TSSR93]

Nice rocketship 🤟🏽

[@CharlesOuimet]

Yaaaa 🚀🚀🚀

[@Cicadawee]

Good Review!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thank you dude

[@becyk_du_quebec]

Yo, were you at the presta ride in MTL with this bike two weeks ago? I remember seeing this frame there. Loved the metallic blue. What's the total weight with pedals on? Full list of components anywhere? Thanks, subbed.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Yup that was me! Yes that paintjob is amazing💯 full weight is 7.6kg with di2 and winspace wheels and bar, you can see it in the build video! Thanks!!

[@everywherelocal]

yeah! 💪

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks man!!

[@mizushima76]

Great content Charles! Love your KZbin channel it is full of interesting and entertaining 🙂 videos. I'd like to purchase this bike in the future with your same exact build (Ultegra Di2 and Hyper Wheels) to replace my Cannondale HM 2018 Sram Red Etap Rim Brakes. May I ask you how much the bike weight in this configuration? I see that your logo is slightly different from the one I saw in other videos... Did you ask the company to change the logo (honestly I like yours more)? Sorry for asking you so many questions... Keep up the good work. You rock as a cyclist and also as a content creator! 🚀💪

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks man, really appreciate your comment!!! Nice, you'll love that new build :) For the logo, mine is the original. Some frame in the last 6 month had the ''cartoon'' logo and the reception was quite polarized, either people LOVED it or HATED it. For their 2021 paintjobs (coming soon) they are moving forward with a more minimalist logo similar to the one on my bike!

[@mizushima76]

@@CharlesOuimet Thank you Charles! ❤️

[@mikemoccia4965]

Thank you for the video, very helpful and interesting. How did you decide on this brand vs other comparable Chinese, consumer direct brands?

[@CharlesOuimet]

My pleasure! Thanks for watching. I feel winspace have a better branding. Also they own their own factory so they have alot more control. Other Chinese direct brands such as yoeleo or trifox doesn't own their factory

[@aldrinclementina4297]

Hi there. I have a Bianchi '56 and "59 to tube.... I'm 1.73m.and I have a 90mm stem. What do you recommend me? Thnakx in advance

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey, for sized, message directly Winspace, they will help you out!

[@eric.onthego]

You need a video to talk about your prescription cycling sunglasses haha.

[@CharlesOuimet]

ahaha maybe !!

[@VTECsauce]

Can't wait to see it on the podium! Full Gas!

[@CharlesOuimet]

It's a matter of time!! Fitness is extremely good right now, just waiting for racing to restart

[@AlsRides]

Would love to see a review on the SLC frame

[@CharlesOuimet]

Yes! Would love to get my hands on one

[@ericracette9716]

I was looking at the SLC model I am a sucker for lightweight bikes I have a bh ultra light right now but would like to build up a disc brake bike. I am 6'1" what size would you think would be best in that model ? Great review.

[@WinspaceBikes]

We think fit is a lot more complex than just your height. Probably 550 (XL) if you want something aggressive and 580 (XXL) if you want something a bit more relaxed. Send us a message and we can get you dialed in better. If you have a bike / fit you're already comfortable on, we can take a look for you.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks Eric! The SLC is definitely SUPER interresting. Hopefully I'll get my hands on one and will build a true hill climb bike! Send Winspace a message, they'll be more than happy to assist you!

[@Metaldre82]

hey nice bike, im from canada too did you pay duties on the frameset, how long is the shipping and can you order the bike w/o the logo?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Shipping is quick! Paid maybe 100$ for the full bike and wheels. You can have custom painjob but the delay is long...

[@olo398]

For those fat 1k+ watt sprints, how did the front triangle hold up? OZ cycling (big on yoeleo and chinese brands, good content) made a point about bar stiffness for when your doing hard sprints and some had a bit more flex than i'd like. I know its just not the bar/stem but whole front triangle that relates to stiffness (wheels etc), I'd love to do the integrated front end, currently 200pds usd and building up muscle, but am worried its not stiff enough, but i LOVE The integrated look, so clean, even though the aero savings are negligible. i know once i get my bike, the pounds will drop but strength will still be there; I can really wrench on the bard in a full spint (im a spinter/punchy rider type) so did u feel any instability or anyting that really made you lack confidence in a full sprint? Thanks, was looking forward to this video for awhile. After china cycling and ton of research, Im sold on the bike, and I think Hambini (YT cycling industry myth buster) rated the wheels as one of the fastest hes tested. Thanks for the content and show that full everest ride!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey man, thank you so much for your kind words!! I've had no issues as all with 1000w+ sprints, but I'm definitely a smaller guy. But I'm sure it will hold up. You can check out China Cycling's youtube video about the Winspace factory tour and you can see how amazing and great theird carbon, molds and QA are. For the bar, the integrated one looks soooo good in my opinion too, some people might be scared that it fails, but again, this is not a 50$ cheap ali express bar, it's has everything a high-end carbon bar has to offer.

[@olo398]

@@CharlesOuimet yea i know China cycling too, good stuff. There is also Trace Velo, hes uh, unique in his content, still good though since he built up his own bike. cool, ive been talking to winspace for a week, jus ironing out the details. thanks again for the content. keep it up.

[@CharlesOuimet]

My pleasure man! 🎉

[@vicodinfreeman5504]

Is it compatible with Sram Force Axs Etap? Also I checked their website and what is 58cm equivalent for them?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Yes it is! My guess is that it would be XL, but double check the mesurements (seat tube, top tube and reach) from your current bike chart to their bike charts. I usually am small in Cannondale & Cinneli, but I went with a Medium winspace

[@vietnguyen4312]

Hi Charles, can you please elaborate on the comparison between the T1500 and the Cannodale Supersix Evo and the Garneau. Is it better? Similar? Stiffer, less aero etc? Thanks

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey Noël, the Supersix was more of a climbing bike, way lighter but less stiff. Was more comfortable too. I loved it so much but I prefer the style of a aero frame from winspace and garneau. The Winspace feels similar to garneau its it geometry and stiffness, but it had a really ugly cable design since it was mechanical and rim . I now prefer Di2 plus disc since it's all internal!

[@vietnguyen4312]

@@CharlesOuimet Thanks Charles

[@jimihendrix731]

How is the frame alignment? (Bottom bracket shell, head tube, and dropouts)

[@CharlesOuimet]

Didn't see any issue! Rides like a beast.

[@abdulrehmanakram.3030]

winspace size M "which size tire use"? and tubeless tire is good or clincher?

[@CharlesOuimet]

23-25-28, both works great, it's a matter of preference

[@robertphillips3078]

Thx Charles. A couple of pairs of both 38mm & 50mm 4 training. Perhaps the 33mm Roval CLX Alphinist may be better Aero wise & there CLX 50 Front & 64 Rear may be better 4 Racing. I agree there Carbon Spokes r a Treat. Good luck with ur ch. Robert Australia

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks man!!

[@aye2011]

if you have to choose with the same specs, reacto or t1500??

[@CharlesOuimet]

t1500!!!

[@JonathanHair]

Hi Charles, is the spec correct that rim brake models of the T1500 have 135mm rear dropout spacing? So no standard road wheels (130mm) will work?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey, any standart wheel will work for the rim brake version of the bike. BUT your rear brake needs to be a TT brake that goes under the chainstay. You can look at my video that I build my girlfriend bike. her's t1500 is rim

[@JonathanHair]

@@CharlesOuimet Thanks. Maybe the Winspace site is incorrect. It states: "Wheel Axle: 9mm QR F100mm R135mm/12mm through axle F100mm R142mm"

[@JonathanHair]

Or also, maybe you are pinching the rear dropout together to make 135mm work on a 130mm hub?

[@JonathanHair]

@@CharlesOuimet , update: Winspace says it was a typo and that the dropout is 130mm

[@CharlesOuimet]

Great!! 💯

[@stigstensbak7078]

Thank you for your tests of this wonderful bike. Have I today bought an exhibition model with Ultegra Di2 and unaas 55mm, I hope and believe I will be satisfied :)!  Thank you for your review of this wonderful bike. Today i bought an exhibition model with Ultegra Di2 and unaas 55mm, I hope and believe I will be satisfied :)!

[@CharlesOuimet]

I'm sure you will!!!

[@stigstensbak7078]

I think so:) Do you know where i can buy a garmin mount who fits for this handlebar?

[@CharlesOuimet]

The Winspace handlebar comes with a out front garmin gps mount!

[@stigstensbak7078]

@@CharlesOuimetPerfect, thank you:)! 

[@abdulrehmanakram.3030]

I was before Trek Madone SLR 6 and i have frameset specifications which i want to share for all people's,it will help a lot for those who have some issue right frame size Choose. my height is 170 CM (5'7") I will write Trek frame "52" size and in bracket i will write Winspace size M. 1# in Trek SLR 6 " Seat tube length" =483, winspace in (470) mm. 2# Head tube length= 121mm, winspace(120mm). 3# Effective top tube Trek SLR 6 = 534mm, winspace (530mm). 4# Trek SLR 6 "chain stay length"= 410, winspace (403mm). 5# "Bottom bracket drop" SLR 6= 72, winspace (68mm). 6# "seat tube Angel" SLR 6= 74.2°, winspace (74°). 7# "Head Angel" SLR 6 = 72.8°, winspace (72°). 8# "Trail" SLR 6= 58, winspace ( 63 mm). 9# " Frame reach" SLR 6= 383, winspace (382). 10# "Stand over" SLR 6= 750, winspace (732). 11# " Wheel base" Slr 6= 977, winspace ( 974). 12# "Frame stack" SLR 6= 533, winspace (517). 13# " Fork rake"(off set) SLR 6= 45, winspace (45).

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks for informing everyone!

[@TheRuijin97]

Hey Charles, what is your saddle height from bottom bracket? Thanks

[@CharlesOuimet]

hummmmm no idea xd

[@habana6595]

As-tu souvent le problème des disques qui frottent les plaquettes ? Je compte me faire le même montage de velo que toi mais j’hésite beaucoup a le monter en frein a disque...

[@CharlesOuimet]

J'ai eu un peu de frottement rendu au kilo 3000, mais c'était pas les disque ou le bike le problème, c'était juste le système hydrolique qui n'ouvrait pas au complet. J'ai utiliser un tourne-vis pour écarter les plaquettes et je n'ai plus jamais eu de problème! Je vais refaire un bleed complet pour début 2021. Si tu as les moyens, va pour du disque, c'est vraiment, vraiment mieux que des freins a patin. Meilleur freinage, ne surchauffe pas dans les décentes, meilleur sous la pluie, moins d'entretien..!

[@habana6595]

@@CharlesOuimet Super, merci beaucoup pour cette réponse complète ! L’entretien et le montage ne m’inquiète pas, étant ancien mécano vélo. Et comme je développe a peu prêt les même puissances que toi en sprint (1330W max) j'avais peur que ces roues ne soit pas assez rigide et que cela fasse frotter les disques, mais me voila rassuré. J'ai hâte de pouvoir me faire ce montage ! (en tout cas continue comme ça, je suis persuadé que ta chaine YT va grimper très haut ! ;) )

[@robertphillips3078]

Thinking about purchasing Winspace 38mm & 50mm Hyper disk brake carbon wheels. Questions 4 u guys who have a set or more... How stiff r they compared 2 say Roval, Enve, Zipp ect. Pls send feed back if u have used the wheels plus the Winspace Hypers. Cheers.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey, I had enve in the past, and the Hypers are definitely on par with them. The carbon spokes makes everything super stiff!

[@guillaumeb8344]

Hey Charles, I just bought myself a frame+hyper wheelset and a cockpit. Very excited. Where did you get that nice gold chain you got?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Ya man!!!! I bought it with my groupeset on Merlin cycle (UK online store) it's a KMC What paintjob did you go for?

[@guillaumeb8344]

@@CharlesOuimet I sure got the wheels and cockpit, as for the frame they don't have black available so i might have to wait or go for another manufacturer. Thanks for the tip on Merlin!

[@CharlesOuimet]

I've heard the 2021 paintjobs are KILLER ;)

[@guillaumeb8344]

@@CharlesOuimet Any hint on the colors yet? I am not too keen of the actual colors

[@guillaumeb8344]

@@CharlesOuimet since new colors are coming up, i've ask to wait and hold on the frame for now, still waiting for my Hyper wheels and handlebar. I had another question, what spacers did you use to be able to go full internal with the cables?

[@U.s.e.r.3493]

Waiting for the wheels review here 😏

[@CharlesOuimet]

soon soon :)

[@AsianAnimeRuLe]

what other bike brands do they produce for?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Unfortunately, this information can't be shared!

[@puterafarrock6598]

I got a really quick question! You’re 5’6? I’m 172cm (Asian) so should I get a size S or M?

[@CharlesOuimet]

M with 100mm stem should be good for you! That's what I have at 170cm

[@abdulrehmanakram.3030]

I really want buy this bike, Charles ouimet said absolutely right that big brands bikes goes through many process and everyone taking profit, but winspace i can buy directly from company,it looks great and much cheaper,i can save my money. i live Saudi Arabia Jeddah city before i tried to buy this bike but that Time shipping charges was 450$ and now i seeing is free shipping looking good. and i want Ultegra Di2 disk brake groupset or SRAM FORCE GROUPSET, and wheel 65mm depth.

[@CharlesOuimet]

nice man! can't wait to see the build!

[@abdulrehmanakram.3030]

@@CharlesOuimet but brother winspace haven't groupset, please do u ask winspace when they can build me complete bike with shimano or SRAM groupset??

[@jasondoe718]

How long the shipping from Xiamen to MTL? From the "order" to receiving it.

[@CharlesOuimet]

I received mine under two weeks with the Purolator option 🚀

[@jasondoe718]

@@CharlesOuimet any torque specifications on the frame or somewhere else for the build?

[@WinspaceBikes]

@@jasondoe718 5N⋅m on anything carbon pinching. :) If its lower, it will be written on the part.

[@bobodapopper]

Ordered the hyper wheels and got them under 2 weeks using the free EMS shipping. Fantastic wheels!

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@bobodapopper hell yes! 🚀

[@marcusfistarol8270]

This bike looks so cool....and i say this riding Specialized.....😊

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks!!

[@archibadboy]

Hi Charles. Thanks for the video. I am looking at the hyper 65. Will you be able to provide feedback on this wheelsets please?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey man! The 65 are basically the same wheel but deeper than my 50s. You can expect really good power output, strong and stiff wheel. Super durable!! But 65s are HUGE so if you ride with a lot of crosswinds, it will be hard!!

[@archibadboy]

@@CharlesOuimet thanks man. Noted on your feedbacks. The price of the sets are really attractive. Shame that there is so little, less than 10 reviews, on the 65. I spend most of my rides on DT Swiss 240 and 350 hubs. So just wondering where does hyper wheelsets (65) position itself in the market? Understand that how they keep the cost is low, but how the quality of the materials, manufacturing etc. Compare to the big brand since hyper claims they spend on the money on the wheels instead. Cheers

[@70svd]

Wow, sounds good. How do i get my hands on one of that T1500D? I live in Cambodia . Thanks

[@CharlesOuimet]

directly on winspace website, they ship worldwide!

[@ArtemSure]

On-one/planetx have close price offering for carbon frame set. FYI. Same Chinese stuff, but there are offerings not from 2k+

[@CharlesOuimet]

dont know about those brands!

[@theb.1723]

how much would it cost to buy the frame + the other components + assembly ?

[@CharlesOuimet]

if you got with high end wheels, disc and DI2/eTap, around 4000USD. if you go with regular wheels, rim and mecanical, around 2500USD

[@eddiepalco]

If i buy it and i’m in and canada do i need to the custom pay?

[@CharlesOuimet]

they reduce the total value of the shipment. but should be less than 5% from my experience

[@erixcornius]

is t1500 full internal cabel?.,becoz that down tube has hole for cabel

[@CharlesOuimet]

You can choose! If you go di2, fully internal, if you go mechanical, you have to go external cable

[@erixcornius]

so only two cabel can go to head tube?

[@theodoros1126]

I am almost ready to orde my T1500 with their integrated handlebar . But I am a bit confused with the frame size . I am 5'10 and ideally I need a 53cm toptube so I need a size M . You on the other hand a 5'6 and still chose the medium size . I saw another guy who is also 5'10 and chose the L frame and he said its too big for him .. hmmm

[@CharlesOuimet]

Good question! I will size down mine and go for longer stem. Currently with 105mm stem. So if you go medium go with a 120mm stem or go large with 100m stem!

[@brenogenestreti7871]

Really nice. This bike is making the big brands buyers looking like fools. Thanks Charles

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thank you Breno! Ahah yes.

[@theunik7828]

looking to get my first road bike, is there any retail in Singapore to take a look?

[@CharlesOuimet]

I think winspace are 100% online, so you can only order from their website, but I can be wrong. Don't hesitate to message them

[@theunik7828]

​@@CharlesOuimet met up with Winspace Singapore yesterday, i'm so leaning towards this already. Hopefully they have or can get my color of frame. For a first timer, i'm getting 105 group set w hyper disc rim, still figuring out alot of stuffs!

[@pmanku]

How to buy this frame set? Do they still provide for discount?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey! Directly from the Winspace website. at checkout you can use my discount code ''charlesouimet10'' for 10% off!

[@anthonywilliams3604]

hey do winspace have any programs for small bike shops to sell there products i work in a bike shop

[@CharlesOuimet]

I think they do! Send them a message

[@MrWayhat]

Thanks for the review I guess what I struggle with is from what I can see there may be savings on the high end builds over major brands but on entry to mid level the pricing seems the same. I am looking to replace my very old but much loved Canadian Oryx from 2001. I am looking at a new Cannondale Super Six Evo base with 105 and entry wheels. Its around 2700 cdn . I don't think I could build a WinSpace for that . Also Evo would come with local bit fit and warranty support. Is there something I am missing or is that the case? The biggest issue now is finding stock for anything

[@CharlesOuimet]

Agreed that price seem very good!! You could build a Winspace with 105 or Sensah empire and entre level wheels for maybe 3000 cdn. But finding parts at the moment is a nightmare!

[@MrWayhat]

@@CharlesOuimet Thanks for the quick response and keep up the great work with your Video's.

[@NeutralGenericUser]

I get where you're coming from, but those brand name manufacturers actually use lower quality frames/carbon for their lower end stuff, whereas you're comparing a top of the line frame with high end carbon from Winspace. For example, the Propel SL I was comparing to the T1500 doesn't even come with 105, only the regular Propel (with lower quality carbon, and an alloy steerer) comes with Ultegra mechanical. It's not really fair to compare. If you could get a Propel SL with 105, then I guess a comparison could be made, but I bet the cost difference will be huge then.

[@jrcp87]

What other bikes do they make at the winspace factory?

[@CharlesOuimet]

This information is confidential, but you can spot on a few brands that have the exact T1500D model in their line ups ;)

[@alba0620]

Hey I'm about to get one with sram force e tap they quoted me $5,200.00 purple fade to blue one What you think let me know I'm 5'8 and half and weight 180 lbs

[@CharlesOuimet]

Nice!!! Medium with 110mm stem should be good

[@junboo8730]

I’m between Yoeleo and Winspace . Any advice? Thanks in advance.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Never really digged into Yoeleo, they are allright I guess! But to have been on the winspace for more that 5000km, I'm not going back to anything else anytime soon. Love that bike and wheels.

[@junboo8730]

@@CharlesOuimet Sold. Thanks a lot for this awesome video. Subscribing so I don’t miss your content. Also Winspace will be my first road bike. I do MTB and gravel. Thanks.

[@bazzt.7933]

Nice review! Is it possible to have them custom pain their frame? I want to have a custom painted frame to be more unique and at the same time maintain the Winspace branding.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks man! They do offer custom paint jobs, but I think the delay is quite long. They have new 2021 colors coming out soon!

[@bazzt.7933]

@@CharlesOuimet Thnx for the reply man! Looking forward to buy 1 this 2021

[@9118693223]

great machine indeed!!!!! the sad thing is that they do not have a strong brand name ,outside china .but i think, the huge chinese market is enough for them .

[@CharlesOuimet]

You are right, this is what I'm trying to change here !! I freaking love my winspace bike!

[@ziiibustos767]

Cool bike i hope i can afford that

[@CharlesOuimet]

you wont regret it!

[@alangumiran5528]

what size is your winspace?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Size medium 470cm and I'm 5'6

[@unebrute]

Good shit dude!

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thank you bruno!! 🚀

[@boardingurban]

6:25 Does it not have the ability to put 2 bottle cages?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Well spotted! No all T1500D comes with two bottle cages, I simply requested to have one because it's my crit bike 😋

[@boardingurban]

@@CharlesOuimet okay. But usually they have the holes already made in the carbon right?

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@boardingurban yes!

[@Ih8GoogleandApple]

The win space is sexy but I prefer my upgraded caad 9 with dura ace and rim brakes. The price is fantastic for the quality.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks man! Yeah caad 9 is definitely a good bike too, but alu!

[@maximedumesnil]

Review the gravel frame and wheels please. Allo de Montréal.

[@CharlesOuimet]

I'm not really into gravel, but I'd love to test the one from winspace!

[@jimaningalan2690]

thanks for the review, whats the code again for 10% off, I appreciated your help.

[@CharlesOuimet]

My pleasure, thanks for watching man. it ''charlesouimet10''

[@vietnguyen4312]

Thanks Charles if only I could justify another bike. Lol

[@CharlesOuimet]

Have you ever heard of the rule? It's N+1!!

[@MrLuigi-oi7gm]

@@CharlesOuimet N=N+1 for sure!

[@jc4liferesearch5]

Ok, nice vid I’m going to order this frame but they’re on a transition to a new frame that should be out next month I believe, any news about it ? Thanks also can we use your promo code for the new frame ?

[@CharlesOuimet]

You're correct! Yes my discount code will work :)

[@jc4liferesearch5]

@@CharlesOuimet Thanks, the problem is they don’t have the new frames out yet, right now they have only one color and one size from the old frame.

[@liudynasty]

What was the weight of your Winspace frame set?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Don't recall but it's on their website!

[@liudynasty]

@@CharlesOuimet ok thank you for the quick reply!

[@BlaqRaq]

I am interested in one of these babies. I am 95kg and 6’2” (188cm) tall. I had a Felt and it was durable, got a few thousand miles out it until I gave it away. I’m looking for something that durable again. Bought a cheap bike but it keeps breaking down. And it’s about 6 months old. Hahahaaa.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Ahah yeah understandable!! I don't have any issue with my bike at 6000km in now. But I'm only 67KG!

[@BlaqRaq]

@@CharlesOuimet how much would a complete bike set cost (wheels and handle bars and seat)?

[@wasupwitdat1mofiki94]

Apparently Windspace products are in such high demand now that stock is always sold out. It's good to see that people are letting the most common popular brands know that we are tired of paying such high prices. Sadly the Italian brands are to stupid to see this and still want a premium for a bike frame that most likely also came from China. You go Windspace, we love you.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Exactly!! All carbon fiber bikes are made in china anyways.

[@manceimi1118]

where can i buy the whole bike in one and how much will it cost me? thanks charles!!

[@CharlesOuimet]

unfortunately, right now, you can only buy the frame wheels and bar from their website. maybe in the future there will be full build. I ordered my components from an online bike shop and brought it to my local bike shop for the build

[@manceimi1118]

Charles Ouimet and how much does it approximately cost altogether with di2?

[@abdulrehmanakram.3030]

@@CharlesOuimet which website u buy ur groupset?

[@abdulrehmanakram.3030]

@@CharlesOuimet i also want buy complete bike,i live Saudi Arabia Jeddah city,here groupset no any dealer.i want Shimano ultegra R 8070 Di2 disk version

[@civilkingdom5488]

Price

[@CharlesOuimet]

mecanical rim around 3K, disc Di2 around 4.5k

[@jonpoon3896]

You said you’re size medium, but the website uses numbers for the size. Is that 47 or 51?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Their sizes are measured by the seat tube length. XS is 410mm, S 450mm and M 470mm. Make sure to check all the other measurements such as top Aube length and reach to find the best fit for you! I'm usually a small medium in mainstream brands but medium in winspace

[@PedroPrego]

It's really, really aggressive. Too much I think. 517 stack for size M? Wow! From their website there seems to be a mandatory headset cap. What is the height of that one? And what is the maximum spacers height?

[@CharlesOuimet]

It is indeed agresive. It's definitely not for everyone. Winspace does have a T1300 that is a more all around bike! I don't have the response to your question unfortunately

[@PedroPrego]

@@CharlesOuimet you can always tape measure the headset topcap. From you videos it's a recessed part so it should be mandatory (like on the specialized venge and tarmac - in their case it adds 10mm to the "size" of the frame)

[@fokrul]

What’s the discount code?

[@CharlesOuimet]

''charlesouimet10''

[@TGShunai]

So why would someone spend 4k on chinese brand aero bike if you can get a canyon aeroad for the same amount? (with ultegra di2 and DT swiss 50mm deep section wheels)

[@CharlesOuimet]

the full build would be less than 4k. Canyon bikes are also chinese bikes, but german. You just pay more for their marketing in my opinion.

[@TGShunai]

@@CharlesOuimet Oh I thought you said this was 4k at the end of the video, my bad. How much would you say the bike in the video will cost as a complete bike? The reason Canyon sells its bike cheaper than for example Specialized is because of the same reason you mentioned for this brand, you buy directly from them. No resellers in between you and the company which saves loads of money.

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@TGShunai winspace Di2 and DISC is around that 4000usd , the canyon di2 you mention is rim brake and 4000eu (4500usd) the winspace di2 rim would be around 3300-3500usd so about 1000$ cheaper! Yes win canyon you also buy directly from the brand, but not the manufacturer like winspace. but canyon bikes are also a great affordable option!

[@TGShunai]

@@CharlesOuimet I see I see, good stuff. The bike definitely looks very good, nice to hear it rides that way aswell!

[@stibra101]

how much they pay you all for marketing?

[@CharlesOuimet]

I recieve a pourcentage kickback on sales using my promo code, it helps me do become a full time cyclist :)

[@TangoMikeAlpha]

I know I'm abit late to the party but I'll ask anyway. Can you get Hambini to review this T1500 frame? Would like to hear his thoughts.

[@CharlesOuimet]

That is not up to me, it's up to the Winspace team to request this :p I'm just a bike rider ahah

[@TangoMikeAlpha]

@@CharlesOuimet Thanks for the response! I heard you're tight with Winspace and can pull a few strings. Think you can make it happen? Also a question. How is the toe overlap on that T1500 frame?

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@TangoMikeAlpha Anytime! Ahah yeah I got a good relationship with them! I've sent you message, lots of people also requested hambini to take a look at the frame. For the toe overlap, I didn't had any at all, I ride the medium bike with US8 size feet

[@TangoMikeAlpha]

@@CharlesOuimet Oh? I'm 177cm with 84cm inseam and wear a size 8 or 8 1/2 UK shoes. They recommended a large frame (510cm). Does that sound about right? Long time viewer, btw. Finally subscribed (guilty of ghosting. Sorry).

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@TangoMikeAlpha this sounds about right! I'm 170cm and have the medium

[@richarddiaz2226]

Disc performs good.

[@CharlesOuimet]

Absolutely!

[@angusstoneham7835]

How much does a complete aero build like you have weigh?

[@CharlesOuimet]

7.6kg! 💯

[@LaDionerie]

Belle bécane

[@CharlesOuimet]

Thanks!! It's fastttt

[@NeoPayneHK]

is that a bont? hows those shoes

[@CharlesOuimet]

Yes the VayporS, I love them so much. A lot more than my pair or Giro I had before. I posted a video about those shoes on my channel, check it out!

[@NeoPayneHK]

@@CharlesOuimet thanks!

[@molfar9049]

Charles Ouimet where did you get them from? i’ve been looking for them in Toronto, nobody has them.

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@molfar9049 online! They have a great size measuring tool

[@NeoPayneHK]

@@molfar9049 just go to their offical webstore~

[@je_suis_le_vent]

Thank you for this great review! Looks like a very high value brand, and it's piqued my interest. I am having a lot of trouble with the sizing though! I'm very happy on my 54cm (M) Giant TCR, but I have no idea which size on their web page correlates to that because of the way they're listed. Can you offer me any tips?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey man, glad you got some interrest into the winspace! My small cannondale supersix was a 52cm and I went with a Winspace Medium (470 seat tube), I don't know much about the TCR geometry, but my guest would be a Large? Thanks!!

[@bradleymcglynn5219]

Price of full bike ?

[@CharlesOuimet]

around 4K USD with DI2!

[@bradleymcglynn5219]

Charles Ouimet cheers mate that’s an amazing price

[@freechillbackgroundmusic]

So about $1332 for frame. Bars, saddle and pedals extra - correct? 50mm Wheels about 1K ? How much is an ultegra DI2 disc groupset?

[@CharlesOuimet]

yes thats about right. I got my Di2 from MerlinCycles for about 1300USD. Full build would cost less than 400usd!

[@martinmacdonald810]

What's the weight of the full build?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey Martin, if you look at my build video, it's 7.6KG!

[@RevelCris]

Willier frame ?

[@CharlesOuimet]

No it's a winspace hehe

[@iancuk]

That's a probability, since Willier describes that their frames are made in "far east".

[@CGA22]

Weight???

[@CharlesOuimet]

7,6kg!

[@MrGarycoww]

Looks like a venge or a sl7 tarmac

[@CharlesOuimet]

Similar features yes, but different bike!

[@williamhank4565]

I like the bike but in my own shopping there are plenty on the same level and less than half of the price

[@CharlesOuimet]

Hey William, it's indeed a nice bike. I'm a bit surprised, what bikes in the same category (carbon, aero profile, fully internal, disc) you can find at less than half the price?

[@abdulrehmanakram.3030]

@@CharlesOuimet i also want to know the name ofbikes which is half price.

[@JoeJoe-lq6bd]

If you're worried about the looks of the stem, do not keep a chimney on your steerer.

[@CharlesOuimet]

If you want lower back problems or problem selling the bike, cut the cheminee

[@JoeJoe-lq6bd]

@@CharlesOuimet How do you avoid lower back problems from keeping steerer tube ABOVE the stem? I'm just giving you a hard time but that doesn't make sense.

[@CharlesOuimet]

@@JoeJoe-lq6bd I've seen people cutting their fork too short and then regret it because of lower back pain . I'll eventually cut mine, but for winter training on zwift, I plan to rise up the bar because there is no point to be slammed.

[@504yaj]

Velobuild VBR099 says hi

[@CharlesOuimet]

Definitely not the same bike ahah

[@504yaj]

@@CharlesOuimet didnt say it was, just in line with your clickbait title :)

[@Tchairdjian]

Good one. And many of you have seen my custom Winspace with my last name as my brand name. People instantly recognize me when I’m on the roads.... check out my IG.

[@CharlesOuimet]

What a cool custom paintjob you got!!

[@frankmoore993]

Giant have a LIFETIME WARRANTY on their frames. I've just called on this for a 5 year old Bike and they honour it. Bike frames Can Fail after years of use. Why can't WINSPACE eagerly match this?

[@CharlesOuimet]

That is a ballsy warranty. Giant is the biggest manufacturer in the world so they can afford to loose some money with warranty claims. My guess is that since Winspace are smaller guys, they can't compete with a warranty like that since they decided to offer their frame at a price really affordable. Giant is a lot more expensive for same-like performance

[@bbqreunie984]

I find it rather strange that on many questions Winspace is giving the answer and here they don't?

[@frankmoore993]

So Charles Ouimet, just to be clear, you don't know, but you're guessing? So WINSPACE on the one hand make all these bikes for all these other brands, but at the same time, they aren't - in your opinion - big enough to offer a Replacement Warranty as per Giant? A lot of fast talking there Charles. But not much logic. Btw, if WINSPACE were making top quality products, the chances of anyone needing a replacement frame, would be close to zip? Agree? So maybe the cost of replacing too many frames is what's bothering them. That sounds logical?

[@jersievers]

You keep mixing the words, “bike” and “frame/fork.” They are not the same and this is super confusing. ~1500 is for the frame/fork, not the bike...full bike would have to be more in the $4000+ range, not in the affordable range. Maybe for a super bike, but to call it a “budget bike”...nope.

[@CharlesOuimet]

My bad! It's definitely not a budget bike as a full race ready build comes around 4k, but with that price, it come close in performance than 10k+ bikes, thus, the budget version of a super bike. Of course you can find 2000$ aluminum bikes in Shimano tiagra and alu wheels, but that is no where near the performance of this bike

[@abdulrehmanakram.3030]

@@CharlesOuimet 4000$ which groupset?

[@Sabhail_ar_Alba]

Not an 'honest review' it's a paid review.

[@CharlesOuimet]

I was transparent with everything.

[@jamescho3718]

Promising bike... not a fan of the name though. A bit cheesy, no?

[@CharlesOuimet]

Ahah Chinese have cheesy marketing, but their products are on point!