The Most Baffling Bottom Placements on Drag Race

[@periherder]

denali being in the bottom and going home for the makeover challenge for what her partner did is still INSANE to me

[@LanguageNerdsofia_]

Who cares! She went home after what Tina did to Rose! That's a real gag! 😂

[@MarinaBonadio]

@@LanguageNerdsofia_ It's INSANE to me how TIna wasn't in the bottom in that episode, poor Rosé was BUSTED

[@nnn326]

What was weird with Kerri was that: 1. She didn't deserve to be in the bottom 2. Then she was saved from the lipsync she should've lost! I'm sooo confused about that one

[@kula3368]

I think they just wanted to get rid of Alyssa while also starting a storyline for her and saving Jorgeous at the same time

[@decemberdowell3779]

I think they didnt want to actually get rid of Kerri, they probably put her in the bottom because they thought she was gonna turn out the lipsync, so when she didnt they got stuck.

[@oncetastic]

@@kula3368 I think it’s because the producers only want to favor one latina queen per season tbh like there can’t be a lot of representation

[@medway4581]

It seems to me that she's disposable for them, they didn't pick her as top 4 material

[@deyoncew3311]

Literally! They should've just put Jorgeous in the bottom who would have legitimately beat Alyssa in the lip sync.

[@grossetchoin]

Shuga Cain's absolute bullshit elimination always rubbed me the wrong way.

[@cole7726]

The most unfair of all time imo

[@bobbyboo22_]

Meh i don't like peoole who do blackface but it was unfair

[@Felipe-im4bo]

@@bobbyboo22_ and u probably like people like Bianca who's a transphobic and racist

[@caseybemis9550]

@@Felipe-im4bo where did this come from gurl???

[@hannah3146]

@@caseybemis9550 right how is Bianca a racist?

[@stone5048]

Kerri was literally the definition of a textbook safe performance last week. Jorgeous is totally being earmarked by production

[@mathiasluna253]

yeah, Jorgeous has been invisible almost all the season and they keep her, it's frustrating

[@RamiroCuchoAvalos]

Jorgeous is a stunning bitch, and she's a PERFORMER! Luv 4 my latina queen.

[@lioticx]

@@RamiroCuchoAvalos and yet she's here still doing mediocre

[@Gustavo-vs6qy]

@@lioticx just wait until next week, the Latina goodness have arrived, btw Kerri should have gone home, Alyssa slayed that lip sync

[@RamiroCuchoAvalos]

@@lioticx c'mon gurl, that's Cheril Hole 😆

[@smurfyboy92]

Widow had no place being in the bottom during Choices 2020. Even Bob on the pit stop said Widow was one of the best that week. It makes no sense especially when shitty pie & Gigi we’re right there

[@waddledeedeee]

but gigi n shitty were meant to be the seasons top 2, like gottmik n symone the following season - unfortunately, widow was expendable

[@heymistercarter.]

Crazy thing is, one of the big storylines of the season was apparently supposed to be a rivalry between the two, with Shark-Sandwich Pie being the hero and GiGi being the villain. And it was changed after the stuff about Shark-Sandwich Pie's behavior came out and she was DQ'd/edited out of the season. But even then, if that was the storyline they were going for, that would've been the perfect time to have a lip-sync between them, given how they were legitimately the two worst in the challenge. But, I guess they were saving that for when they'd make the finale togethe- oh wait. Just like that lip-sync battle between Yvie and Silky that was built up but never happened because they were never paired against each other in the finale.

[@BLit11]

@@heymistercarter. Hahahha Shark-Sandwich Pie 😂😂😂🤣

[@marcusmelancon3426]

I feel like Gigi should’ve lipsynced they both didn’t do good in the challenge however Sherry had a good runway Gigi didn’t even follow the category at all

[@yunocba]

I felt some kind of a poetical revenge when all the 🥧 thing came up. Just to see how ruined the producers planned win was.

[@heymistercarter.]

To me, two of most ridiculous ones are Elektra Shock and Anita Wigl’It in back to back episodes on Down Under. With Elektra, she was team captain, everyone said she was a good leader, gave the best verse, and had a lively performance. And then, “you’re hogging the spotlight too much, you’re up for elimination!” And then Anita, who makes a pretty cool dress out of book pages and strips of film, and then gets told “we’ve seen this before” (what, in the Season 8 Book Ball? Yea, because look at all the times people copied THAT!), is put in the bottom against Karen From Finance (who literally is wearing clothes you could buy off the rack at a thrift shop for a design challenge), and is eliminated. No sense with either of those.

[@waddledeedeee]

i had supressed down under to the back of my mind, thanks for releasing the demons once again

[@NightmareTrubator]

They were like: "Elektra, you're distracting us from the queens we want to market with! Fall back in line!"

[@heymistercarter.]

@@waddledeedeee well, in a video talking about BS bottom placements, it qualifies. Though, I could also talk about the Talent Show episode, where contemporary dance and a quick-change magic act were in the bottom over an eating act and a f-cking balloon dog!

[@quixotic333]

anita is my number 1 most robbed bottom placement in history

[@formy52]

@@heymistercarter. Oh GOD do not even get me started on those fucking balloon animals I can't.

[@Ry_J_Guts]

My interest in season 14 immediately dropped when Rupaul told Jorgeous that she was “born to do drag”. We saw that recently with Crystal Versace and we all know how that turned out.

[@OssmanAC]

*Spoiler* Yeah but Jorgeous is going to be 7th place.

[@moonlightbae6143]

Ye but did Rupaul lie they’re both so young and look like theyve bern doing it for years

[@Jhawk2711]

Oooo you're in for a treat then gal 💀

[@mushroomhandler]

@@OssmanAC oh my god can y’all shut up with your spoilers

[@yngmirco]

@@mushroomhandler deadass like omfg

[@ichooseclark]

Another one is Ginger in AS2 during the “Herstory of the World” challenge. Alaska was not great. Her padding was off. Didn’t know all the words. Ginger gave a great performance in the challenge, but they put her in the bottom against Katya for a bad runway solely to protect Alaska.

[@drkmgic]

Ughh the whole season was do rigged

[@bekleedee]

That season was so rigged for Alaska to win.

[@its_charlixcx_bxtch7527]

And people still rank the season as best of all time. The cast is PHENOMENAL but can we talk about the robberies and the random bottom placements?

[@desubysnusnu]

What worse was that the fans favoritism was also very blatant back then. They turned blind eye thinking Ginger elimination was justified because she was up against the super fan favorite. They went ham on alaskq for keeping Roxxxy but somehow praised Alyssa for keeping Katya.

[@carlosblanco5975]

THIS

[@JeremiahFuentes99]

Wrt Kerri's bottom placement, let's not forget how many of us clocked that the "SOMEBODY'S MOMMA COME GET HER” Line that was used in the actual teaser for the season, that grabbed everyone's attention when it was shown, was conveniently cut out of the actual episode. Almost as if they knew if they kept that in there was no way they could've justifiably still have her in the bottom.

[@procks1619]

OH MY GODDD i was waiting for someone to say this, I was waiting for that moment to be the meme of the season or somthin.

[@c.k.8585]

The edit in that episode very clearly pushed queens given how different it was with the rehearsals we saw.

[@femkev.5245]

Knowing the spoilers for UKVTW, I have an odd feeling that the rigging is coming from two sides: the BBC not wanting to lose the UK girls, and RuPaul and Michelle not wanting to lose the American girls, which essentially puts every other contestant at a disadvantage right from the get-go.

[@BurnDaDebt]

This is why the judges for the VS seasons should be a panel of previous international winners

[@saidlakolatroniczucomg2094]

I'm so tired of Baga Chipz for real 😴 UK have better queens than her, like a lot lol

[@c.k.8585]

@@saidlakolatroniczucomg2094 I am honestly tired of any queen who uses her 1-2 quotes from her original season constantly

[@BurnDaDebt]

@@c.k.8585 exactly, you got the opportunity to create new moments, memes & quotes.. Other queens would be relishing the time. Baga seems over it because she was put all over the bbc already. Can only hope they change it up going forward, to make up for that talent show.

[@JoeyLamontagne]

@@saidlakolatroniczucomg2094 I mean they could have picked someone from UK2

[@Adoribull1312]

Widow suffered so much from the favoritism Sherry got, even beyond her elimination. Both episodes that Sherry won, Widow was also a stand-out and could have justly won the challenges, but she barely got any recognition for her performances. I honestly think she should have won the hospital acting challenge, she made me laugh every time she opened her mouth. (and also Heidi should have won World's Worst, but that's besides the point). I think Widow easily could have been a frontrunner with 3 early challenge wins, but it just didn't seem like that's what production wanted to do with her.

[@yunocba]

I found very curious that the two big black queens are getting rigged on the improv political challenges. Just saying...

[@Itwas2007]

Go search about Widow domestic violence episodes. She should be canceled and forgotten like Sherry Pie

[@dianaberlin4767]

Sherry was better 🤷‍♀️

[@QueenPoison_]

@@Itwas2007 it was in self defense, how dare you? spreading false ass narratives about talented BLACK queens.

[@Itwas2007]

@@QueenPoison_ are you serious? Go search reddit about info that she made a deal with the court and admitted her guilt. The trial is ongoing, no verdict yet. But the fact that it was not self-defense is obvious, there was not a scratch on Widow, she boasted on Instagram stories about how she beat her victim.

[@BiologyIsHot]

We're not gonna talk about how Bendelacreme shouldn't have been in the bottom for that color revolution challenge? Even Michelle was like "why is Laganja in the top"

[@ColinNP]

What the fuck was Brooke doing in the bottom in the final challenge of Season 11? I would argue that she was the second-most proficient, verse-wise, she had funny moments, and she had the hardest choreo outside of Yvie. It was *only* to resolve the showmance plot.

[@syxtilidie]

yeah it was literally just for story

[@drkmgic]

Ikr

[@c.k.8585]

They should have just done a double sashay on the awful lip sync and have the final four be a normal episode without an elimination.

[@marcusmelancon3426]

Because they needed the story of Brooke and Vanjie having to go against each other

[@ellenlauraa1229]

the way season 11 kept saving silky still rubs me the wrong way

[@classicallycommie6266]

Season 1 had its moments, bebe being put in the bottom while wearing a stunning stoned shawl (I'm not sure what it's called sorry) while Rebecca was wearing a 10 dollar dress off the rack from the mall

[@myroyalart9246]

And given a win for that. No

[@DemonTwink69]

Cmon dr Seuss!

[@mistypuffs]

Shawl. You were close and I knew exactly what you meant ^^

[@benjamintic3653]

Bebe's problem wasn't that the looks weren't great. Is that it made no sense with the mothr/daughter theme. At least Ongina's made sense. But there is no excuse that Rebecca won, Shannel and Nina were right there.

[@MuhammadAhmad-oj6mf]

Rebecca should have been in the bottom and Ongina should have been saved. Shannell should have won!!!

[@terugi]

I will never forget the Rajah episode on season 11. I had heard spoilers that she would go home and I remember watching she come out the runway and be like “oops I guess the spoilers were wrong, the bitch look sickening”. And then the critiques started and I was just speechless…

[@DJG0810]

Can you do the most baffling safe placements yet (queens that should’ve been in the top) next?? Example: Gia Gunn in the AS4 Talent Show & them putting Trinity instead

[@caitthecat]

Gia's was definitely not good...

[@Sally-hc5bz]

Jan in AS6 talent show

[@DJG0810]

@@caitthecat Gia’s was really good.. Top 5-10 of all talent shows in my opinion. Up there with Tatiana, Aja, Jimbo & Willow.

[@DJG0810]

@@JP-et9hv I might’ve chuckled once but I was shocked at the placement.

[@thirdeyyye]

YES, I want to see a video for baffling safe placements as well!

[@ait8551]

a shocking one for me was Yarlexis on as1 with the girl groups. Its obvious they were the best team but still got put in the bottom

[@ytscrownjewell]

Yarlexis should have been top 4, I will say it till I turn blue

[@saidlakolatroniczucomg2094]

and as the icing on the cake of that episode, latrice says very xenophobic comments towards them 🤢 I kinda get how people tries to justify latrice's "villain edit" on all stars 4 but their comments in as1 were completely disgusting and like not edited AT ALL. So yeah, Latrice sucks.

[@keastonz]

@@saidlakolatroniczucomg2094 What did Latrice say? I can't remember.

[@RazvanMihai88]

@@saidlakolatroniczucomg2094 don't act like Alexis, wasn't racist towards an asian woman, calling her Manila. just because she's asian, with the stereotype, that asians look alike.

[@RazvanMihai88]

@@keastonz that she can't understand Yarlexis speaking english, with the spanish accent.

[@dpm8780]

Two more reasons I think they put Lemon in the bottom is that she is a fan favorite and starting off the season with a big banger like her elimination would give the season even more publicity (and it worked) I also think that she was put in the bottom because she would be a huge contender for the crown, shes a fan favorite, a great performer and kills comedy challenges (and also kind of improved her runways) Being a threat to other girls the show loves like Baga and Jujubee just was not what the network wanted sadly

[@chargestone96]

Or she did bad in the challenge lol, its not that deep Plus she wasnt that popular at the time if filming

[@anastasialecter4394]

Lemon's performance was bad, that's all. I noticed her dead face the second she came on stage, just compare her energy to Pangina's. I probably would've put Juju in the bottom personally but Lemon's placement also makes sense.

[@benjamintic3653]

She did bad in the challange and they chose to save Baga. Its not that deep. If they wanted a contendor to go home, Baga and Juju were right there.

[@cynthiasmessedupcar4773]

@@anastasialecter4394 Why are you everywhere attacking Lemon ???? I get it’s a youtube comment section but i’ll never forgive you for going on to Come Through Music video and body shaming and sending death threats to Lemon Do better and get a life

[@anastasialecter4394]

@@cynthiasmessedupcar4773 ???? I never did that lmao. I didn't even comment on that video.

[@Housewarmin]

I think they use bottom placements to get certain girls to lip sync, send other queens home, and sometimes to Low placement is a fan favorite, but may not survive the lip sync, and to get some iconic lip syncs.

[@iamJervandre]

20:00 i’m sorry but jorgeous’ entrance line in the teaser “if you’re looking for body, you came to the wrong place 🧍🏾” sent me out of orbit

[@brettmayer247]

The thing about Phi Phis performance is that she was the only one who played a real character. She was practically Sarah Palin. Everyone else was just playing themselves. I think that kept her safe.

[@iain9757]

Yeh she was doing a parody of an actual political person with a certain point of view but then the first time they did that the judging was a mess because was he meant to be serious or not ?

[@godrickstockwell1505]

That whole challenge was a mess from start to finish. Like why would they bring in an ACTUAL political commentator to critique a drag competition? The fact that Lattrice didn't reach across that podium and slap Phi Phi is a testament to her being a class act. Can you imagine if that was Shangela or Bob?

[@peaceopaleye8755]

I think we may need a Maddy Morphosis episode at the end of this season. They are BURYING her. Hiding her good jokes and performances.

[@xundeadprincess6521]

I noticed that too. In the teasers episode they put in the take before Michelle asked her to say the line differently which landed her in safe when certainly should have been in the top the last 2 weeks really.

[@Mienshao11]

JUSTICE FOR MADDY

[@mjm3091]

To be fair I'm more bothered about them treating her like a tocken and laughing stock. First of all RuPaul did a dick move telling whole workroom at the beginning of the season she is straight - already making her into a monkey in a Zoo, not even allowing her to connect with others from the get-go. Then editing had been pointing at her every time something is mentioned about gay people. Like this is not a treatment we should ever give to any of the allies, especially with how respectful Maddie was. Like straight cis men are not opressed, but it doesn't mean we should be a-holes to.

[@brofourtwenty2143]

What she gonna talk about, how hard it was being straight 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sea_bunnie243]

@@brofourtwenty2143 drag is a safe space for everyone, stop trying to exclude people

[@jaydenbartlett17]

I didn't even like Ra'jah on season 11 and when she walked out in her outfit I was like "well shit she's not going home" so when she was put in the bottom I was shocked

[@dashi7070]

I think them putting Lemon in the bottom might have been a bigger misstep than putting Jujubee in the bottom. Lemon had just gotten a lot of postive attention due to her verse on "come through" and from what I got from my friends and a few other people, they were kinda tired of seeing jujubee in yet another season of Drag Race, while on the other hand, many were super hyped to get more of Lemon. I personally also think that America has more queens than Jujubee and I think they should've maybe put a queen in there that didn't yet have a chance at all-stars or has been to all-stars only once and not 2 times. Yes she is a fan favorite but now they have also ruined that for her.

[@sebasuniverse9919]

Idk if I’m confuse but I thought that “Come trough” was filmed after filming the season, so in that sense they wouldn’t have predicted that Lemon was going to be in the spotlight for her verse. And I agree that at this point the presence of Jujubee is overused specially after Queen of The Universe, they could have go for any other Queen of the Us Franchise that hasn’t have a shot in the spotlight for a long time.

[@garryd7748]

Was Jujubee selected because she was already in the UK maybe?

[@Jhawk2711]

Well Lemon did Come Through because she was down about UKvTW

[@dashi7070]

​@@sebasuniverse9919 You're right i didn't know. However I still think that lemon had more potential and went out a pretty big fan favorite after Canada 1. I just think that many would rather see a queen they haven't seen much longer than a queen who's been pretty much fully displayed multiple times like jujubee. There isn't much suprise that could come from jujubee. The only thing that suprised me was that her runways felt even worse. Gave me the vibe that she was almost like a last minute descision and she had to scramble something together

[@c.k.8585]

Honestly I think it looks bad for Jujubee mainly because she gave us nothing this episode.

[@bp2159]

Tayce in the stand up challenge is another one like Ellie was RIGHT there!

[@tonib7062]

Never got this point tbh. Didn't tayce keep saying the same thing lol?

[@bp2159]

@@tonib7062 Tayce wasn’t good either but Ellie’s was like unwatchable lol where Tayce was just lacking stronger punchlines

[@ellenlauraa1229]

EXACTLY they only did it to have tayce vs awhora for the drama, top four should have been the united kingdolls :(

[@camillee8436]

Tayce was thrown into the bottom about three times on s2 when she had no right being there and it was wild because she was so likeable. First in the rusical where she had a quite solid performance, definitely far better than lawrence cherry and her scene partner ellie- who was high while tayce was told she was harder to read??? Then in the comedy where Ellie did a clearly much worse job but tayce was put there to kick out awhora and their storyline, which was again weird because awhora really smashed it basically every episode. And then again in the next episode tayce was put in the bottom over lawrences probably worse and definitely less professional performance. Both of the latter times she was told "we expected you to be awful but you werent"- like???? Ellie was one of those people really pushed by production despite not really bringing anything, and with a season where everyone was such a strong standout it was really weird to see.

[@joshuathorpe6451]

The fact that this video is 34 minutes long and by minute 9 we’re already on season 8 shows just how much the production style has changed

[@GoMulanGo]

I think they used lemon similar to joe black. As a way to raise the stakes right off the back. The English speaking seasons are definitely more well known than the others so a fan fave like her going home right away is a shock. Ans the producers know which lipstick each queen picks. Jimbo lost that lip sync fair and square but I feel like even if she did just as well as Pan they’d still give Pan the win for the shock of sending lemon home

[@una6013]

The problem with dela’s stand up was that she had too many jokes. She was so nervous that she wasn’t waiting for the audiences reaction. The jokes themselves were pretty funny

[@godrickstockwell1505]

Yeah I feel the same way. If you pause to register what she's saying it's super thought out and funny

[@nickelz721]

How are we gonna forget the blatant BS placements that from the season that shall never be mention, Down Under? Especially that final 5 episode.

[@cjazj]

Cheryl Hole won that damn makeover challenge! This is the one that has always bothered me

[@marcusmelancon3426]

They wanted Baga to be in the final 3 that’s why and she had already lipsynced twice

[@Aaronatthegaybar]

Awhora being placed in the bottom on the stand up challenge on UK season 2 instead of Ellie Diamond was truly upsetting. Ellie didn’t deserve to make it to top 4

[@xundeadprincess6521]

I fully screamed at the TV when A'whora got sent home that episode, she had done so well the entire season whereas Ellie had been doing mediocre at best. That was probably the angriest I've ever been watching drag race if I'm honest.

[@camillee8436]

I absolutely adored awhora all season, she has to have been one of my favorite runs ever. There literally hadnt been a single episode before the comedy where shed done a bad job and though i think she probably did deserve the bottom 2 the fact it wasn't against ellie- who she probably could've sent home and who had been incredibly forgettable all season- baffled me.

[@gaytwinksfortrump]

Preach

[@tobias662]

There's a couple more that always struck me as suspicious: • Bebe in the season 1 makeover (instead of Rebecca) • Sahara in the season 2 gone with the window sewing challenge (instead of Mystique/Nicole/Pandora) • Jessica Wild in the season 2 book launch (instead of Pandora) • Milan in the season 4 snatch game (instead of Jaremi or Jiggly) • April in the season 6 acting challenge (instead of Adore) • Bendelacreme in the season 6 ball (instead of Courtney) • Kandy Ho in the season 7 opening episode (instead of Sasha or Jasmine) • MKD in the Despy Awards (instead of Violet) • Jaidynn in the season 7 snatch game (instead of Miss Fame) • Detox in the AS2 snatch game • Tatianna in the AS2 commercial (instead of Detox) • Mayhem in the bossy rossy challenge (instead of Vixen/Asia) • Monique in the AS4 Henny challenge (instead of Gia/Manila) • Brita in the Madonna challenge (instead of Jackie) • Jan in the season 12 commercials (instead of Sherry/Gigi) • Tina Burner in the season 13 commercials (instead of Gottmik/Olivia) • Kylie in the AS6 panel challenge (instead of Pandora)

[@Monkelonk]

This is a great list

[@drkmgic]

Gotmikk in the disco challenge

[@bunnygirl1208]

Milan always bothers me because yeah the snath game wasnt great but from what they said on the panel they just seemed really annoyed about that fact she wore a suit for the runway and that's pretty much all they talk about

[@tobias662]

@@bunnygirl1208 in the earlier seasons they were so opposed to anything masculine! Several queens, including Milan and Ongina, were judged very harshly because of the judges' persistent adherence to gender norms. They've come a long way there. But yeah Milan's snatch game wasn't great but not even nearly the worst in a field of messy performances like Jiggly's or Jaremi's.

[@freshavocado2519]

I think they liked Adore, she just wasn’t a good leader and I thought Courtney did really well in the ball

[@Vaelios3292]

i"m ok with Lemon being in the bottom because she looked very bored and struggling at the same. But the "already seen it" was bullshit. Tho, Jujubee or Baga were deserving of bottom too in my opinion.

[@cuddleywhiskers3062]

I'm sorry but "is she going to jump from there?" is one of the biggest memes in the DR franchise and Aja's talent show performance is one of the most iconic performances of all time. Even in the newest episode of Binge Queens, Dela literally says during Lemon's performance "is she doing an Aja?" like yes, it's impressive, but...it's literally Aja's AS3 talent show lol. We have seen it before. I love Lemon but it's hard to do something so similar to something that has become one of the most iconic staples of the drag race canon 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@user-mz2ne4yh2t]

@@cuddleywhiskers3062 off topic, but the way you used the term “canon” as if it’s the MCU and a season could be erased from the timeline any given time for plot reasons sent me lmao

[@yunocba]

I still have doubts about if that was the actual performance. They do 2 rounds of the show just in case, and they conveniently decide if they want to keep it or not. I.e: Farrah's fall could have been easily deleted from the talent show if she was one of the favorites. Actually in episode 2 of UKvTW you can see Jimbo falling which we didn't watch in the episode, so they could easily change your opinion from meh to ugh by deleting and editing and putting the fake face of RuPaul laughing or gagging

[@cuddleywhiskers3062]

@@user-mz2ne4yh2t i don't think it's that big of stretch... There's probably just as many queens as there are characters in the MCU 😂

[@akumayoxiruma]

9:35 I think Trixie Mattel didn't deserve to be lipsynching on Season 7 in the parody challenge. It was judged by teams instead of individually but considering that Trixie basically did most of the work, it really wasn't fair to put her in the bottom against Pearl and even sending her home after clearly winning the lipsync.

[@firstnamelastname6193]

Trixie is just not good in competitions and she is really not very talented compared to others

[@friedcatfood]

I’m betting hard on the fact that a UK queen will win UKvsTW. I very much doubt the BBC wants someone not British to win a show they funded lmao

[@c.k.8585]

Also naming it UK vs the World and having UK lose

[@Daniel111916041]

It will be Baga, Juju or Mo I believe, because all 3 can sing! It's likely too be Baga though, because the songs that Drag Race releases in the UK actually chart and get alot of air play, look how well UK Hun and break up bye bye did! So yeah, I think you're right, but it's all very calculated

[@AmyinOregon]

I agree with you and I also had a second thought, the very British thing to do and have it not be a "rigging controversy" would be Pangina Heels winning. I think she's on track to win fairly. Then again, they could say it's rigged because she was DR Thailand judge. lol She's super fierce, extremely nice and humble.

[@friedcatfood]

@@AmyinOregon welp

[@Monkelonk]

I would add Mrs Kasha Davis for the Despy Awards only bc she said welcum

[@aaronphillips3507]

I don't know how to feel about season 8 being considered an early season

[@saidlakolatroniczucomg2094]

I mean, we are just 2 seasons away to put in S8 literally in the middle of the entire series, so... 😳😨

[@jelanidacostabest8195]

I think the pre-VH1 era is considered early

[@magicraccoons]

Man season 12 was so wild. They picked the favorites and blatantly rigged it for them right from the get-go but then both of them took themselves out from the win and that left Jaida who actually genuinely did really well overall. She turned looks, could lipsync you to filth, and was a nice person. It was so weird how much everyone ended up loving the winner because of how badly the production picked their favorites that when it came down to it she was really the best one out of the group.

[@johnbeetle4340]

Ait’s pretty obvious she won because of BLM. How does parading in a living room with a phobe in your face win. Gigi was the obvious winner idiot

[@sakarasakara6195]

I think it’s interesting that the weird bottom placements got so much worse after the Valentina situation. 👀

[@classicallycommie6266]

4:16 ivy had more top placements then Coco, Alyssa, detox and had the same as roxxy

[@Thepersianpopinjay]

So, with Lemon I don’t think Pangina robbed her or anything. I think once the judges place you in the bottom on All Stars you are fair game to the winner of the week. That’s how the rules are designed, if you get Manilla’d you get Manilla’d you are not robbed by the winner. Now, how you got to the bottom is where you can get robbed, the judges can rob you by placing you in the bottom. That’s what I think happened to Lemon. Pangina doesn’t deserve hate for playing by the rules, the judges deserve the backlash for bending the rules to put Lemon there.

[@willvwill]

one for me was the if youre not in the top youre in the bottom twist from the snatch game of all stars 5, jujubee and alexis had no business being there especially the fact that the queens debated sending her home

[@deyoncew3311]

Honestly, from a producing perspective they should've put Cheryl in the bottom where she would most likely go home. By sending a UK girl home first they could push this idea that the UK girls aren't getting free passes but since its Cheryl we still wouldn't be missing much later on. From a fairness perspective it should've been Juju and Janey.

[@AngryCandy89]

I do agree. People don't see Cheryl as a contender for the crown, so they wouldn't be as mad. It would be just another episode of her doing mediocre. I do like Cheryl, she's fun TV.

[@cuddleywhiskers3062]

Cheryl's performance was not even close to being the worst of the original songs though...

[@c.k.8585]

Cheryl did fine though. It wasn't special but it was done well. Really there is a good reasoning on why Lemon and Janey were in the bottom; most of the "talents" were unoriginal and downright boring (really I only found Jimbo, Pangina and Blu entertaining, the rest were smoke breaks) but at least the others executed them properly while those two messed their performances up.

[@johngaudet7363]

Cheryl in bottom for first episode?? She was good and her song was fun. Safe was accurate. They should have put Baga in the btm, she was a mess and her runway was bad

[@AxelRoxasXionKH]

When it comes to Uk VS, I think production is overestimating how much we’re rooting for the american girls. Because yeah I love juju but I’ve seen her 3 times (pretty recently on AS5). For all of the international queens this is legit their second chance. So I’m actually rooting more for Lemon and Janey than I am for Juju or Monique, no shade to those queens ‘cause I would have loved to see them win their AS seasons initially.

[@juancarlosmolina458]

I would add Miss Fame in the snatch game of season 7. Her Donatella was one of the worst performances in snatch game I’ve ever seen. One note, boring, with a bad accent. And definitely she was the worst along with Max. But instead, they put Jaidyn in the bottom, whose Raven at least was a little funny in the first interactions she had.

[@MrMik981]

For me the weirdest bottom placement will always be Tina Burner & Utica in the Soda challenge. Both of their commercials were on brand and they deserved to be safe (maybe Utica could be Low). While Olivia Lux's and Gottmik's soda commercials were disasters, esp Gottmik

[@clairemacphee4273]

yeah like utica's was weird but it's the only one i fully remember! that's gotta count for something, and the weird off the wall thing is on brand for her

[@juhu3709]

This is a prime example for post hoc reasoning. Just because there is no storyline for a particular queen in the final edit means nothing really. Lack of storyline could very well be caused by editors throwing out all the material after a queen happens to be eliminated that week

[@mariachrzski18]

PERIOD A'Keria should've been high in the Halftime Show challenge.

[@FYFAYAS]

personally thought jessica wild did well in the book ad challenge to warrant a safe or low placement but ofc they went to that storyline of comedy/acting/improve challenge for esl queens doing poorly and threw her in the bottom.

[@mrinalkantidas6392]

The 3 queens that I was stoked about seeing in that season was Lemon, Jimbo and Blue.. Literally they had grown so much after their season.. I was least excited about the American girls because literally they’ve been done to death!! Them sending Lemon home has really left a sour taste in my mouth and I am literally not even bothered to watch anymore episodes after that because the riggory is off the charts

[@yunocba]

Don't even start with episode 2.... Girl....

[@mrinalkantidas6392]

@@yunocba I stopped watching it.. I am not even going to bother

[@xoxoRubenAngel]

YESSS I fully agree with the Jorgeous rigorry! I think they see Denali-level popularity level and don't want to give that up so early!!

[@c.k.8585]

Denali's popularity came from the show. With Jorgeous it's more a case of a queen with a significant social media following that the queen wants to keep around to please her fans imo.

[@jessijaneway6660]

Laila McQueen is one of my favorite queens. She's grown so much from her run. It wasn't perfect but she should have been no where near the bottom for her first or second episode. It seemed like they didn't like her spooky cooky style and didn't like that she was shy and reserved. She's since come out of her shell and has done some fun panels at drag con, did some makeup for the HBO show we're here, and did some painting on celebrity drag race. I dont know why she hasn't been invited to all stars yet.

[@janelindsay4898]

I still cant believe Kiki Wanna KaiKai was bottom 3 over Jimbo on ep3 CDR. Its the most memorable verse from the whole perfromance and she was one of the best dancers. Also the fact Elektra was in the bottom for the girl group and talent show in DU over Karen and Art

[@c.k.8585]

I think the Drag Detective doesn't even want to remember Down Under anymore:")

[@heymistercarter.]

Another recent addition: Salina EsTitties on Season 15’s fashion house design challenge. Her outfit was fine, starting out as almost this UTICA-type cape and having a solid design underneath. Yet she was ripped to shreds and put in the bottom against AMETHYST because… I guess sorta like Latrice and DiDa, they needed someone to get AMETHYST out?

[@andrewgalya8241]

when will production realize that rigging it makes it less entertaining and a lot more not fun to watch. they are literally doing the complete opposite of what the audience wants, and if you’re going to rig it, at least rig it so that the people we LIKE stay ☠️

[@hannahbishop786]

I think they put Synthia in the bottom because they wanted someone to send Eve home and they had already seen both Eve and Synthia lipsync so they were pretty sure with the bad mental state that Eve was already in and Synthia's lipsyncing abilities that they could accomplish that. Obviously there was a lot of riggory in favor of Kendall, and they had yet to see her lipsync so they couldn't be sure that she would beat Eve.

[@jackh7889]

Definitely Ongina, Pandora, Blu, Choriza, and Yarlexas in AS1 and Tati and Alyssa (after their return) in AS2, and Etcetera, Elektra, Kita, And Anita in DU. I think that season 4 challenge was so random.

[@EchanteDante]

Drag Race has become so far from a fair competition which I believe is why the show doesn’t quite hit the same…everyone always blames it on the queens being too aware to let their guard down to get into arguments or be too confrontational etc. BUT I THINK IT IS BECAUSE PRODUCTION IS TOO STUCK TO CONTROLLING HOW THE SEASON PANS OUT AND WHICH QUEENS GO HOME WHEN instead letting queens who are performing well stay or win and putting queens who aren’t doing great in the bottom. I think ever since All Stars 2 they haven’t even tried to hide the fact that there isn’t even a chance for anyone else to win other than whom they meticulously decided was going to be the winner ahead of time. I mean AT LEAST TRY TO MAKE IT LOOK FAIR…but nope put queens who did clearly better than some other queens who clearly deserved to be in the bottom in order to create two seconds of produced drama “ohh my what are they going to do they are friends and they have to lip sync against one another” (Cynthia Kiss and Kendall Gender is the most recent example I can think of….or Jimbo having to choose to save or get rid of Lemon in this already BS new season of All Stars But Not)……..Or “let’s put a queen in the bottom two who has been performing fairly well so far and clearly did enough to be safe this week just because she is wearing Jlo’s dress…I mean how could we not have a girl wearing something Jlo actually wore lip sync to a Jlo song?!” Or I don’t know there are just sooooo many examples of production ruining the show because they want to create a tv moment that people will talk about which people end up talking about how the show sucks and how stupid that decision was instead of the drama or tv moment they wanted to have…. or to stick as close to their plans for their decided top 4 as possible. It all ends up getting in the way of the show being entertaining. THEE ONLY THING THAT IS ANNOYING IS THAT THEY DONT CARE WHEN THE FANS GET MAD OR ANNOYED WHEN THEY CLEAR RIGGAMORRIS THE COMPETITION…..BECAUSE PEOPLE OUTRAGED AND ENGAGING IN A NEGATIVE WAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA CREATES BUZZ AROUND THE SHOW. Meaning they don’t care if people get angry because that is a positive for them also because it gets people talking about their show even if it is to say how garbage they show has be come.

[@keroroplatoon3216]

A big one I’m surprised you missed is Mrs. Kasha Davis! She got put in the bottom just for saying “Welçüme”, instead of like. Miss Fame. Violet. I don’t remember a lot of that challenge off the top of my head, but there was no reason for Mrs. Kasha Davis to be in the bottom.

[@mushroomhandler]

miss fame in the bottom after that “i wish i could smile but goddamn botox got me every time.”?? no way

[@AngryCandy89]

You could do "The most bafling top placements/wins" as a follow Up to this

[@mackandzie]

the only one on your list that I disagree with is Tamisha in the bottom. Yes, she had a condition. But as we saw in her confessional she didn't want to bring it up to the choreographer and risk being seen as a weak competitor. In my opinion that's a calculated risk and it ended up biting her in the butt, unfortunately (because I really liked her even though they kind of tried to edit her as the villain.)

[@samclark2050]

She still did good with what she done though. Symone, Utica, Kandy and Mik performed worse than her.

[@bleuj4528]

Gottmik and Utica were miles worse though

[@samclark2050]

@@bleuj4528 i think Kandy and Mik were bottom 2 and Utica was low

[@rebeccarichardson8669]

I remember that Drag Magic show and being super shocked when Shuga Cain was eliminated. Yeah, it definitely wasn't fair.

[@DanielCostadaSilva]

I’m amazed you didn’t mention any of the rigged lip syncs of season 7. There were at least 5 different challenges Violet deserved the bottom and at least 2 the sashay away. However, other queens took the bullet instead.

[@MajorSYTYCDfan]

I just sort of think that there was no way they wanted a US or UK queen to go first so they avoided that possibility completely, and Lemon was a sacrifice to that.

[@c.k.8585]

I think if they put Juju on bottom, any queen would have send her home with the simple excuse that she has had her chance. And I think if Mo continues being this antagonistic (because this is more than being shady) the other queens will also send her home as well. The UK queens definitely have an advantage in that none of them will send the others home for sure.

[@Javier-zw9sx]

So I definitely wasn't the only one that has realize Maddy had been push back on the editing of the final product of all these challenges

[@OscarSotoJr]

I think a factor that people don’t consider in Lemon’s elimination for UK vs The World is that there was another country for Canada being represented. And we KNOW the queens would use this as a factor, because production CONVENIENTLY had their country flags on their lip sticks.

[@karacoconutag]

There are a few channels that I drop everything for, but this is one of them. This is gonna be a feast.

[@rreennaad]

I’ve been waiting for this video!! cuz these placements are crazy !!

[@DarkAngel459]

Robbie's photoshoot was one of the best and her shading Sharon Needles took balls, that was the actual main challenge of that week.

[@danielsimmich1858]

I wonder if another reason Lemon was put in the bottom was to potentially split up the Canada girls, thus limiting Jimbo’s alliance options?

[@aug1014]

Jackie cox did a lot better then widow in the debate challenge and her outfit was more aesthetically pleasing

[@josearaujo2801]

I think Jorgeous wasn’t pushed as much as Orion. They’ve been saving her until last week but her acting on that teaser was (???) and the runway was 😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@Mendejito]

Orion was eliminated, low, safe, eliminated. In no world was she pushed when Jorgeous was like high safe bottom and it shoulda been safe bottom bottom

[@CadaverJunky8]

Joe Black was done so so so SO dirty. It's like Ru personally hated him for some reason and did not want him on there. And it's frustrating cause he would have made it FAR.

[@gibsongirl05]

Okay I just have to say this you are easily one of my favorite drag race commentator channels look forward to more uploads

[@jameswoodard7704]

Kerris scene in the mirror was hilarious I don’t understand why she was in the bottom

[@ppo190]

After seeing lemon for home I’m just thinking that There is no way that a non UK or non American queen can ever win

[@CadChamberlain]

I have no clue why nobody even mentions Crystal Methyd when talking about the debate challenge. She wasn't funny and it didn't make sense. Her only positive critique was that she made it feel like it was centered around a real campaign... WHICH IS THE EXACT REASON THEY PUT WIDOW IN THE BOTTOM (Widow was also better at that and was funnier). Yes GiGi was reusing a character, but atleast she was still funny and had some great improv.

[@totsss]

as a huge gigi stan, she was not funny at all in this challenge 😭

[@heymistercarter.]

With Season 16, the only person I can think of right now as to why they were in the bottom was Amanda Tori Meating for the Girl Groups challenge. From what I remember in the challenge, her performance (which was the focus of the prompt) was fine. She gave good energy and dance ability and such. Then she's thrown into the bottom with Q (who was the actual worst in the challenge), and they mostly point to her runway as the reason for it. All I can think of is that it was a delayed response for her runways not being great up to that point, and they sorta wanted to penalize her for that. And it's strange, considering she had a major rivalry storyline that season with Plane Jane, and putting Amanda in the bottom (and sending her home after the lip-sync, which I'd actually argue she won) cuts the storyline short. It felt like Kandy Vs. Tamisha's storyline getting cut short, except Plane Jane wasn't in the bottom with Amanda.

[@nelsonjr16]

Joslyn Fox is legendary for sending legendary lipsync assassin Laganja home

[@leandromv170]

Unpopular opinion: I don't think Trixie's snatch game was that bad. I think she should have been safe. She had the look, she had the references, she made the silly dad jokes Rupaul makes... I think it was only for the sake of drama they made her look so bad. Bebe was not at all better, and the absolutely clear bottom two were Chi Chi and Kennedy.

[@eckoschreiber]

Also as Lemon stated, they took the worse of her two takes to legitimize their decision. Now what about Elektra Shock "dancing too well" and Keta, Tayce/Awhora 's placement or River's, Scarlett being double shantaied with Charity, Ivy-Elise vs. The Countess, Ivie on AS7, every design challenge being won by a the skinniest clothes rail.... No more wire hangers!;o)

[@heymistercarter.]

I think you have a new one for the list: Dakota Schiffer on UK4’s makeover challenge. She’d had a bit of a rollercoaster run in the competition, getting some wins, but also some bottom placements. And then she’s thrown into the bottom in the makeover, when many have said she and her partner looked like sisters in the challenge, because her makeover is apparently too much of her signature style? Many have questioned her bottom placement, especially when Jonbers Blonde had a VERY basic makeover (minimal makeup and putting her partner in a basic dress) and Black Peppa basically copied Danny Beard’s makeup style and also put her partner in a soso outfit as well. I’m not sure why production seemed to want Dakota out of there, since she was doing objectively well.

[@WakelessLon]

i think personally whenever there is a "if you're not in the top, you're in the bottom" it's so bullshit. especially with the current all star format with 1 winner. we saw queens like trixie [girl groups], mo heart [roast], jujubee [snatch game], alexis [snatch game], shea [design, standup], kylie [monologues], trinity kb [design] end up in the bottom, just to name some on the top of my head, because of this when they all arguably did the 2nd or 3rd best of the week.(( you could also add roxxxy [makeover] to this as well but the 5 bottoms...)) track record doesnt matter much anymore but it really hurts to see queens be punished by default for doing well.

[@benjamintic3653]

Honestly Lemon's placement was justifiable. Was the jump split cool... Yes, was the rest of performance bad with a bad bitch track, completly lacking in facial expresions and half ased dance moves... Deffinetly. I do think Baga or Juju should've been in the bottom (and eliminated) but I think it was deffinetly at least deserved and explainable.

[@benjamintic3653]

I think people are just exacurating because Lemon is fan favourite but come on, she wasn't that great.

[@drkmgic]

How do u say her elimation is deserved yet on the next sentence u say baga and juju where worse. Also that Holland queen, imo did not do well either.

[@keastonz]

@@drkmgic Poland? What?

[@crimeyfruit5676]

juju cheryl were much worse

[@drkmgic]

@@keastonz sorry I meant Holland

[@matthewgraham3649]

With lemons placement I think it also had to do with the storyline of the Canadian queen's vs the solo season queens as all us and UK queens were safe

[@benedictcumberbatch7522]

3:23 she called Latrice and Dida the help infront of Rupaul how was she not in the bottom 💀

[@lip8781]

First off, I would like to add Charity Kase in Draglexa and BDE and pretty much every bottom placement in Drag Race Down Under! But what I actually wanted to say, i don't think Lemon was robbed. I didn't see her in the bottom either, but really, that was one of the worst "talent shows" (I call it "i lip-sync to my own original song"-show) we have seen yet. Except for Jimbo, Blu and Pangina literally everybody could have been in the bottom. I personally would have put Cheryl in Lemon's place and Baga as low, but clearly that wouldn't be a great image for the hosting country XD. But honestly, I didn't mind. I just want to see some good variety shows again. I am so sick of those unoriginal copied boring dance and lip-sync performances. You just can't tell me that those queens don't have any other talent than moving their lips and doing the splits!

[@c.k.8585]

Honestly from the lip sync to your own song group, I felt Lemon did the worst. Cheryl was not great but she did her act properly. Lemon did not emote and her only stunt was telegraphed, copied and poorly delivered.

[@overnightsiren]

Maybe a hot take but I think Valentina kinda gave up in AS4 after Snatch Game. From the next episode onward she was just taking the whole experience a lot less seriously, when she honestly COULD have won. She did fine in E1 then really good in 2 and 4.

[@bleuj4528]

Lol sure. And you COULD win the lottery

[@geniebysnsd_mp3]

The fact that so many of these rigged queens are black makes me so sad 😕

[@tchaugn]

literally WHO ELSE could have gotten away with what Juju did... imagine Aquaria walking out in that I'm A Winner look.... sis eliminated immediately.

[@dawsonkuhn5959]

Not sure where the clip from the actual trailer of Kerri is where she goes “somebody come get her,” seems like they didn’t include it so it’d look worse

[@mattjones9843]

I still can’t in any world see a justification for putting Juju in the bottom over Lemon for the sole reason that Juju sang live and was clearly not like off pitch or off key or anything. Cheryl I’ll give you, but also like outside of the jump split I had more problems with Lemon’s performance (as you said the face and also just generally boring dancing) then Cheryl’s personally.

[@belenbarria568]

I feel like, while Juju singing live is good, it still wasn't a breathtaking performance, and we've seen her do it so much lately, it geniunly bored me.

[@barthus9080]

You forgot Milk on AS3! She clearly had an amazing Connection with Trixie in the third Episode and never cut her off! And especially after the second week where she should have won! I mean she was just safe and she was in 8 of the 9 dancing numbers and the Event Planer of Celine Dion himself told her that she did the best Dion Impersonation ever! And to just be safe was really really unfair! She definitely did not deserve to be in the Bottom the third week! She deserved to be sent home immediately after the challenge O.o #jk

[@mickeybells3390]

Wait are you trying to say Baga wasn't low in UK Vs the World? I completely read it as her being low...

[@sakarasakara6195]

Not a spoiler, but I have a weird conspiracy prediction about Kerri Colby Kerri has the gold chocolate bar and she knows it - this is why they felt okay about putting such a favorite in the bottom after a safe performance This is also why she cares more about the protecting dress than the lip sync When Ru originally passed out the chocolate bars she said “UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES CAN YOU OPEN YOUR BAR” The next lip sync Kerri loses she’s going to reveal the gold bar, only to be sent home for breaking the rule: a rule that’s in place for protecting the sanctity of the competition and the safety of her girls Then Serena Cha Cha will appear dressed like a German chocolatier and pass out truffles as a replacement for the gold candy bar thing The girls will have to eat the truffles and reveal the filling after each lip sync

[@m_milos]

The joke did make me laugh but if we're gonna be serious, there's no way that happened, because a) there's no reason for the production to let the queens keep the chocolates by themselves, its way more logical that they're going to take them away and give whichever queen they want the golden bar for story reasons; b) Kerri would've been extremely careful about the dress either way, I don't think it took her knowing she'll be safe to take that risk

[@heymistercarter.]

To me, with Synthia in the Girl Groups challenge, I noticed a pattern with Canada's Drag Race season 1. After the first two episodes, the next 3 DA's that went home back to back were Anastarzia, Tynomi, and KIARA. And what's something they all have in common? Yea, I've often said that Canada Season 2 is kind of a response to a lot of the criticism Season 1 got, and I think they worried they'd be viewed as racist or something if they sent all the POC DA's out so soon again. So with Synthia in this, you could argue that it was an Elektra Shock in Down Under type thing, where her group was technically the weaker one, but she had the best verse and performance of everyone. EVE is easily going in the bottom, and her lip-sync against Suki the previous episode showed she isn't that good of a lip-syncer. The other options besides Synthia are Kendall and Kimora, who are the other 2 POC DA's left that season (Kendall being biracial) after Oceane already went home. So put one of them in the bottom against EVE (even though I think either could've beaten her. Kendall proved to be a solid lip-syncer in later performances, and I don't see Kimora giving the same performance she gave against Gia later on that season if she were in the bottom here), they risk having the same criticism they probably got for sending almost all the POC DA's home in a row last season. But if they put Synthia in the bottom with the excuse of being a bad leader (plus her being in the bottom before), they avoid that.

[@ainsm216]

dumb question probably but what is DA?

[@justthecoolestdudeyo9446]

@@ainsm216 Drag Artist maybe? They're using it synonymously with "contestant" so idk

[@jesscozystories]

Putting my producer hat on for a moment: I would have eliminated jujubee because it gives me the joe black edit of uk2. It would show the gurls to step it up because the fave of the franchise got the chop. And especially after as5 & queens of the universe, it would show the fans that jujubee is not held captive in wows dungeon

[@yunocba]

I don't think that happens. I seriously think that juju has signed a contract with wow for a high placement or a certain amount of tv time, despite she is the real narrator and storyteller of the season (whenever is something happening she will be there). I also think Pangina might have the same clause. Not that she's not SPLENDID and I am rooting for her, but it would be weird to have a judge/host losing early or not even winning

[@Cat_Woods]

"She who shall not be named" is understandable, though it was jarring at first. I had to go look it up.

[@lareinabrown]

Going through all these, I realize how many awful challenge ideas there are. Like some of them are just so random it’s like how do you even judge that?

[@sethicus9665]

11:03 I know we don’t talk about him but James looks so good in this photo