The most bizarre move in Street Fighter 6

You'd think being able to exploit the third dimension in a 2D fighter would be a big deal. And yet...
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[@RuneLar]

This move is gonna win an EVO in 5 years and we're all gonna lose our minds.

[@Kara-de5cz]

Yep, this is gonna be like Hugo's HK in Third Strike

[@ShiRuBa3368]

me when I haven't taken my meds

[@futurecoplgf]

@@Kara-de5cz Exactly my thoughts! Broski's gonna be on the mic at EVO: "Do you understand? That is a worthless target combo! That combo is so worthless, but he was able to make it useful."

[@Kara-de5cz]

@@futurecoplgf "Thah moov is awwfoh mate !"

[@greenoftreeblackofblue6625]

Yeah when it get buff for 5 years in a row

[@the_bookworm8281]

The funny thing about the DP autocorrecting thing is that the reveal trailer for Terry shows the move properly dodging Luke's DP without it autocorrecting, meaning that the DP autocorrecting is either an intentional last minute nerf to the move or a last minute bug.

[@StreetfighterTips]

You are supposed to delay the follow up and it should make reversal whiff

[@the_bookworm8281]

That is how it works in the final release, correct. But in the reveal trailer, the Terry player didn't delay at all, but the Luke DP didn't autocorrect. You can see that Terry's character model already crossed Luke up before the DP input started.

[@El-Burrito]

I wonder if it's character dependent?

[@omurice3612]

You can partially hold forward to end closer to the opponent which makes reversals whiff.

[@Latino_Burrito]

@@El-Burrito oh shoot what’s up brother

[@Fluffy_Cobra]

first character I've seen with a riskup mechanic, crazy

[@tokitoki9156]

You might be happy to know, that riskup will now become a staple word used in my vocabulary

[@dectilon]

It's the whole "you can't fire me, I quit" except with mixups.

[@TheGooGaming]

When they said it was on-hit only before Terry came out I thought yeah this is the worst move in the game

[@TonyTheTGR]

This is probably the worst-implemented move in SF HISTORY

[@megapussi]

​​​@@TonyTheTGRThere are characters in 3s with special moves that are punishable on hit. Dee jay in sf4 had a move that forced stand, something that would help his combo routes, but also whiffs against basically every crouching opponent. 3s alex has "left right mixups" in a game with a parry so he always loses, and unlike this game he cant parry- bait and then throw. Then theres, like, the entirety of sf1, where the entire game is poorly implemented. All of that is just off the top of my head, this move probably doesnt even break the top 30.

[@erichthegraham]

​​@@megapussilol, poor guy was just trying to make a hyperbolic exaggeration and here you are with your facts and logic. That said, I think Sean's tatsus were punishable on HIT. That's insane, getting punished for hitting and landing a combo is wild. All the same, Terry's move sucks and its super annoying. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'm convinced they were going to allow you to do the mix on block and they chickened out.

[@assassinonprozac]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@megapussiWhy are you bringing up Alex’s stomp mix-up as if that’s the only thing that move is good for? 3s Alex is a barely functional character with a laundry list of problems but not being able to scrub people out with stomp mix-ups is not one of them. Stomp is actually one Alex’s better special moves, frame 1 throw invulnerability and lower body invincibility, airborne frame 5, fantastic oki on hit, pretty much safe on block (-3 but no one’s ever going to punish it) EX version tracks the opponent. Not a strong move by any means but definitely not useless. Also, minor nitpick, but punishable on hit does not inherently mean bad. Shoto low forward in 3s is punishable on hit yet it’s still a god-tier normal. And just about every character in 3s has a punishable on hit normal, even Chun and Yun.

[@Kenshi876]

@@megapussi "3s alex has left right mixups in a game with a parry so he always loses" In 3S you have to press the direction of the attack to parry so parrying is as much of a guess as blocking.There's no parry button.

[@jw-bv1il]

my conspiracy theory is that during development it was a special move that you could cancel into, like a blanka hop, but then they realized it would be busted and just gimped it into this mess

[@ripswf]

2mk 2hk blanka hop would be sick actually

[@grandsquanchrum]

Yeah, it reads similar to how Aki's fireball followup is like -100 on block despite not leading to anything when during her development she got a crumple state from it.

[@symphonyinrose]

I think this is exactly what happened too. I suspect that it will be spruced up next patch or so, too.

[@Archflip]

Yeah, when you spell it out, this move really flopped. I feel like they understood that lane switching as a crossover mechanic is cool, but were too afraid of making it good or something, forgetting that parry breaks the left/right game in half.

[@odindarkll3706]

Meanwhile, Rashid, Blanka, and Cammy can side switch without risking anything and they're not the only characters that can do it.

[@soliduswasright678]

Everytime I play Terry, I get the feeling Capcom was terrified of making him good. So much about him either feels half baked or weirdly gimped.

[@euclid1068]

It's funny because the actual Passing Sway move from the Real Bout games this target combo is named after allows Terry to enter the back lane even on block.

[@skunch]

this guy fatal furies

[@androtaz2621]

A few things about Terry in general feel half baked. I expect him to get a lengthy list of changes in the next major patch

[@XBC3403]

Terry has a lot of things about him that give me the impression that capcom was too scared of him ending up good.

[@ΚρανίΩ]

like his stand hp not moving foward at all or his crouch hp having non existent range and anti airing capabilities

[@XBC3403]

@ΚρανίΩ for me it's most prevalent in how a lot of his specials work. most of them are only notably good in specific circumstances and each have multiple and/or reliable ways of counterplay. Many times on reaction. Though his normals outside of cr mk being pretty lackluster and stubby certainly don't help him. St hp is notable cause of its short range and despite being a two hitter, can't use the far reaching second hit for his best combos. It's just passing sway embodies pretty much everything to become a truly worthless move.

[@computervision557]

@@ΚρανίΩ Like his 2HP cannot combo to 236HK, his 5LP cannot combo to 214MP, some combo routes are extremely picky on spacing, tight on frame many combo need manually delay to connect yet the reward is not that good, rising tackle is quite easy to hit the wrong side etc etc

[@jayro792]

4:59 We are British, we say rubbish or poppycock 🧐🇬🇧

[@cringegames1569]

being a broski subscriber and a brazillian, I can say I have, in fact, met many capybaras

[@funcionapramim]

Met some myself. Capybaras are super friendly as a regular Brazilian is.

[@UrashimaLuke]

I'm also a Brazilian and I've met capybaras before, so I figured I was a Broski subscriber before being a Broski subscriber

[@NRobbi42]

It's so obvious when Capcom doesn't want something to be good. Then you look at Bison...

[@ViewtifulBr080]

Bison?

[@thuroria7631]

You mean, the bison headstomp they obviously don't want to be good?

[@ΚρανίΩ]

@@thuroria7631could you please say that again so that i can make sure i didn't read this incorrectly, bison headstomp is the most braindead, insane move there is, it does everything

[@odindarkll3706]

​@@thuroria7631 Headstomp is so cracked.

[@SaucyCheeseburgerwithRanch]

The biggest use of this move is that it looks cool and it’s a reference to the game Terry comes from. That’s it 😭

[@erichthegraham]

Technically, the side switch kick has a use case: punish counter HK or DI with your back to the wall, DR into it to remove the first juggle, allowing the kick to combo. There's a combo trial that uses it on DI, but it works the same on PC HK. It is actually good damage and advantage for that situation. The problem is that it's WAY easier to combo into 236HK>214MP for a side switch that has great oki in the majority of situations, it just doesn't work in those two instances to my knowledge. Anyway, other than that, and especially considering that's only one version of four, yeah this move is pretty useless. Edit: wrote this comment before finishing the video, didn't know about that meaty knuckle setup. It technically did less damage but since it's free on drive and plus is probably better 99% of the time

[@xDragonInstallx]

I hit training mode and messed with this move for 1 minute and knew it was complete trash. It's so bad that I think it's just there as a "Oh look a reference!"

[@madak17]

Another problem with the Target combo in the corner… if your opponent holds forward during the lane switch they will swap sides with you and force you to corner yourself even if you do same side lariat. Which of course also leaves you very minus in the corner.

[@sleepyzeph]

im a certified tundra storm apologist, and it looks like the worst part of this move is how it looks like a regular move. good bad moves are funny and deal good psychic damage. this one just looks like nothing.

[@mrcuddles2199]

Gief holding Terrys beer on this one

[@Marcos-INORAC]

Capcom simply got addicted to adding references and the move was never intended to be useful.

[@LLL74123]

Capcom are no strangers to leaving useless moves in the game but it's refreshing seeing a shoto having one for once.

[@cheef825]

Tundra storm turns 10 next year 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@vandagylon2885]

Not a shoto

[@BronzeAgePepper]

Smash player detected, deploying deodorant

[@zamanfu2935]

They were wary of the T7 effect of guests and decided to make the guest mechanic useless pre-emptively.

[@Shiratto]

Which is funny considering T7 favoured the Capcom character and made them look good

[@Azure029]

and the SNK character

[@dontdomewrong1932]

No Terry , there is no lane here.

[@EclipseKirby]

In Terry's current state, it feels like Capcom decided they'd give some of his specials powerful and/or unique properties and have him utterly pay for it everywhere else, with this move being the most overt case. Fortunately, he's fun and he has enough tools in every area that his issues can easily be addressed

[@DuBLD33]

compare his normals to ken though, and they are basically better across the board. open wiki to see frame data etc. 1 to 1. His normals are pretty strong

[@Optii87]

Terry has such a large amount of jank, that I'm starting to think that they released him slightly unfinished. Fingers crossed that it all gets fixed in the future.

[@user-tzzglsstle585e38]

It's such a damn shame because it's a really cool target combo that I would've loved to see more used, but there's literally just no usage for it.

[@CF565]

Another streamer cheekily speculated that Capcom purposefully made this move bad as a reference to the lane system in FF being kinda meh. Kinda like a snarky tribute. Proably not true, but a funny idea, cause I kinda agree re lane system as a mechanic.

[@BronzeAgePepper]

it's almost like it didn't live beyond the old games from its home series for good reason

[@zNEOyu]

If youre a Brazilian your chances of seeing a capybara (capivara) is 100%

[@lawnbb12372]

It feels like they were more concerned with getting the references in that actually making them work. They wanted to add the lane switch but didn't want to put in the work to make it a real move.

[@JiBbo]

In the twitchcon build, the side switch was + on block

[@chasepalumbo2929]

Insane plot twist: Capcom just doesn’t make as good of a Terry as Snk does

[@donbrandoli]

Can confirm, am subscribed, have met a capybara

[@djbowlz2128]

They should have just gave him a side switch like Rashids cartwheel move.

[@brettdallman3885]

I subscribed for the capybara thing

[@garr123]

Capcom were so scared of this move, you can feel the terror.

[@P-Roni]

there is one use and one use only: if you do no follow up you are plus enough to block ex reversals. the only thing this works against is mashers. by weaponizing perceived weakness, you can knowledge check people that think you are using the combo not realizing there are better options. it is a testament to the awfulness of the move that the only use this move has is tricking your opponent into thinking you’re an idiot.

[@odindarkll3706]

The fact that this move was memed all day before Terry officially released means that the meme is dead...

[@coltranebartlett590]

I used this move precisely once on my way to Master, and it was probably the hypest moment of the climb because I kinda did it on a whim after a heavy-kick punish counter on this guy's random DI. I didn't have enough drive meter to do a drive rush, so I just did the two hits into the side switch, and I proceeded to win with a stun because he had burned himself out! It had to have utterly fried the other guy's brain, as he was *also* playing Terry and the funny sway actually has amazing tracking. I basically teleported to the other side of him, I was so far away when I did the knee.

[@ViperKreuz]

This move needs a serious rework. Reduce pushback on block for the lariat. Make it work on block, and give it a few more frame advantages.

[@Shago_1]

0:39 so true king

[@KBACpro]

PTSD from Shao Kahn's Ground shatter -8 on hit just returned. May be CAPCOM will fix this.

[@dnkndonutts8662]

Which ground shatter are you talking about? The one in mk11 I remember was safe on block and people use it after strings all the time

[@KBACpro]

@@dnkndonutts8662 not always. It was -8 at some point. On Hit! Yes, from 11.

[@dnkndonutts8662]

@@KBACpro huh must be pretty early then when I played him the move was actually pretty good for keeping your strings safe

[@KBACpro]

@@dnkndonutts8662 lucky you. I started playing Shao right after release. He was bad, very bad.

[@sakadrian]

i was waiting a video from you pf the useless of this target combo, but u always surprise how deep can u go studying the possibilities and search for a use, u r the man

[@omurice3612]

@broski You can hold forward for then crossup kick for a specifc number of frames and get it to force any reversal to come out on the wrong side. You can also do an option select with the punch for specific reversals that move forward a lot (like Cammy's OD DP) to make them Terry crossup if they do DP but stay in front and get the plus frames if they dont.

[@omurice3612]

Oh yeah. It has 33 frames of invulnerability as well. He can use it to go through Rashid's level 2 in the craziest most precise situation

[@NoahNotNilla]

I feel like they could’ve just made this move function like a spot dodge and counter that’s unsafe on block. It would’ve been way simpler and actually useful

[@MVKBPR]

I think Capcom felt obligated to include at least one unique mechanic from Fatal Fury, because it's an unspoken tradition when there's guests in FGs from other FGs, and this was the one with the least amount of potential to be problematic balance-wise (i really thought they would give him Feint Cancels from Garou, because i assumed that Dan's V-Skill 2 was a test run for it). Honestly, if the just make the side-switch route a comfirmable natural combo i think it'd be fine.

[@bored_robot9263]

does this mean tundra storm is no longer the worst move in the game?

[@CommandThrow]

on hit only was an insane design choice

[@sidneydykes5032]

This move is basically that Leo meme of him pointing at the screen

[@dobiqwolf]

Gief players looking at stomp and asking the same question

[@toshikikarukawa8148]

That's one of those moves that will probably be buffed in a future balance patch and maybe then it will become useful. It was probably too good during development and Capcom nerfed it too much for the release.

[@Raxyz_0]

Eyy, I used that so much on my path to Master with Terry. There is one use I can see, which is knowledge check people to death with it. First the same side with is plus frames and gets people mashing, then the crossup with gets them regardless, then no followup and throw them on parry. I closed SO many matches with this... I agree that it's ass, but it _is_ funny. Maybe specifically because of that. lmao

[@SoMuchNoise1]

I feel like this move would probably ruin scrubs if it was good, so Capcom decided to just absolutely butcher it… but honestly I think just making it not activate on block was probably enough to prevent that 😅

[@El-HAXAN]

I saw clips of Jibbo using it in corner juggle routes (after a H Charge > Round Wave) to setup a meaty over head, which is cool... but even that doesn't make use of the side switch so who knows what Capcom is cooking

[@sp0pie928]

There is no war in passing sway

[@LonghairMcBeard]

Good comment remarkable oaf

[@timeparadox999]

Terry trying to build V-meter in SF6

[@butterfreedom5357]

I still remember when the trailer dropped and everyone thought that it would be a busted special move instead of the worst finisher of a bad target combo.

[@h8reset194]

Handsome Capybara here, broski is right

[@80me16]

I thought Terry would get better over time like Ed but it feels like Capcom intentionally limited his ceiling by giving him so many hyper specific issues.

[@SquidwardProfilePic]

If you could cross up on block that would make the move incredibly good, if you’re in the corner just fish for the medium punch starter and if they block you’re in the other side

[@TheTomac]

"this move makes no sense", meanwhile completely ignoring how stupid Rising Tackle is.

[@computervision557]

Terry has too many issues, his rising tackle is like a binary switch, either hit or you fly to the wrong side It's hard for me to believe they didn't intentionally make terry the worst shoto

[@TheTomac]

@@computervision557 Be that as it may, it is still instantly turning upside down for a kick that could not conceivably have any useful momentum in it. Its patently ridiculous... even considering the boy has gaea magic or some shit.

[@AnthanKrufix]

Unironically see more use for Tundra Storm.

[@southpawle641]

its actually very useful when used on juggle. i sometimes use it when i do the juggle with light wave and when the punch lands you get a massive frame 37F advantage and can throw a heavy power wave that ends up missing if you use it too fast

[@badtzkoala8345]

It’s only good for side switching out the corner but even then there’s better set ups for side switches

[@PomadaGaming]

1:13 makes sense yeah his lane switch was way more hyped up than it came out to be lol

[@mateusfavarin8698]

Do you guys know if its possible to punish his fycking flip kick or whatever its called

[@computervision557]

@@mateusfavarin8698 Crack shoot? 214K You cannot punish this move, but you do not need to care about it too much either, because 214LK/214MK are -3 after blocked and it is possible to placed terry in the throw range 214HK after blocked is -1, if you are crouching, this move can cross over your head and give you a big chance to punish terry You can try to perfect parry it, DI it or DP this move, or just guard it, terry put himself under disadvantage condition after this move was blocked

[@mateusfavarin8698]

@@computervision557 Nice brother, thx..my best option will be crouching then bcz i cant react with Dp. My main is Luke btw

[@computervision557]

@@mateusfavarin8698 It is impractical to react with DP for light and medium one, they are too fast, heavy is possible, but you don't need to waste your mental stack on this move, just block it and let terry players become minus man, it is not dragonlash

[@neofly]

um, zangief's weird stomps tho

[@HellecticMojo]

That got marginally better

[@NoobyNoon]

This move always struck me as a, ‘Oro HitGrab’ situation

[@solardeathflame]

Im here for the percent increase for meeting a capybara

[@TommyTwoGuns24]

Broski vid for lunch we up 🙌🏽

[@manu_elle_gago]

OMG just a few weeks ago I met a capybara, gotta thanks this channel for that

[@lomelody1297]

You had me at Handsome. Subscribed.

[@SomniaCE]

For something that is clearly just supposed to be a reference/homage it is fine. If Capcom ever wants to put in the effort to somehow make the move impactful within his kit then I'd be interested but it is clear it is there purely to check a Faral Fury throwback box and nothing else.

[@TheNamelessLemon]

don’t forget you can side switch with it off of punish counter stand heavy kick, but yeah you could also just do the cmk+chk burn knuckle side switch

[@l3layzeDojo]

the thing that bothered me about this move, was Capcom put it in the trailer and hyped it up as "Terry is the ONLY character that can move into the second plan to attack his opponent". But 1) he isn't the only character, because Ed's level 1 does this. 2) it's literally one move, and he is only in that second plane for like 2 seconds tops. and 3) It's worthless anyway so nobody would use it. (I don't think I've seen anyone use it online f'sho)

[@robertwenrenyeh]

I got out of a lot of corners thanks to the kick one.

[@michaelpetty8437]

Specific example is common in lower ranks and is easier to perform than other side switch routes shown even though not as optimal.

[@heathertilert]

This was probably only added to give terry Fatal Fury gimmicks.😂

[@Davaroni]

0:38 I am handsome and I have met a capybara.

[@necromancer0616]

I'm guessing that after the side-switch/drive rush you can do a meaty Drive Knuckle into something else maybe?

[@Dude902]

The only move that wasn't mentioned in the 20 minute Terry Counterplay video titled "How to beat Terry in SF6". Desperately needed a 17 minute video of its own to explain its nuances. This clearly proves it is an OP move and Terry needs a nerf.

[@PinkLemonInc]

If you think about it its the same as DJ sway but with a crossup instead of high/low

[@PinkLemonInc]

You just have to do it from a hit confirm, on a small button, and youre risking your ass no matter what

[@Galkatokk]

Does the Capybara meeting thing work if I was already subscribed? Please respond.

[@DuBLD33]

the auto correct happens with sim teleport too, like even before I've switched sides they will track it

[@michaelpetty8437]

Always felt this was intended to be used when Terry was being pressured in the corner, and made it to where it could not be abused.

[@thehandoftheking3816]

God forbid Capcom is scared of making the already strong character have a solid crossup tool after a history of very broken characters in 3rd Strike, SF4 and SF5

[@Tinfoiltomcat]

St.hp xx hk tackle xx super late hk crack shoot(whiffs) Sideswitch combo into +3, way better than this garbo lol

[@han3wmanwukong125]

It makes perfect sense if you look at it as if it's just filler.

[@nugzmedallion8929]

If they change this move to work on block, it MIGHT actually become somewhat decent. As it stands, it seems like Capcom thought Passing Sway was going to be FAR better than it actually is and therefore placed a bunch of unnecessary restrictions on it

[@skunch]

they couldn't balance it on release, so they are going to slowly patch it and see how works. I think this type of development is very new for CAPCOM. I've never seen them engage with a community on this level before. They have telemetry data and can analyze all of it, we'll see if they make any kind of change.

[@fagnermorellato8877]

Capcom wouldn't take the risk of a character from a rival franchise winning a Capcom Cup.

[@levelzapstudios1145]

they probably should have just given him a spot dodge or something

[@GeneratorOfChaos]

Hey Broski, I can explain the bizarre fucking mess that is this move and like 99% of moves like it. They really wanted to include this move for whatever reason (in this case, important reference), however, for whatever reason, they couldn't nail down the balance before release. Meaning that every version of the move they had developed was either too weak or way too strong - and honestly I can see a world where this is basically demon flip on crack as a dial-a-mix up with an inbuilt invulnerability window. Either ways, they ran out of time to use fixing this move specifically, so they pseudo-axed it. The reference is still in the game, and they may fix it in the future when they have time, but it's currently functionally non-existent, because they decided it was better than it releasing wayyy too strong. They could have made it less shit, but by that point they had no more time/resources for it, so they intentionally made it so shit you wouldn't use it.

[@insobyr9779]

the follow-up doesn't combo, but it frame traps, so mixing up with a delayed throw at 2nd hit would be a legit mixup, not great, but acceptable.

[@Psycho-Complex]

Haven't finished the video, but i saw a terry utilize sway well against burnout to create mixups.

[@kingkommashow]

Should tackle into L ground wave, drive rush and it will connect and you get big plus frames whichever side you go for

[@agent_hex]

It seems to me that they wanted to make a homage to the other game and had planned on making it useful, but found some shenanigans with it having better frame data at the last minute, so they decided to just nerf it on release until they could figure out how to fix it, or just leave it as an homage move on a character that already has a lot of specials.

[@sabastianpummill2446]

The only case use scenario I can imagine is side swapping around rashids lvl2

[@DouglasBurton]

Ha, yeah as soon as I tried this move I decided it's purely there to punish the Terry player for auto-piloting this target combo, that they don't really want you to use.

[@EvansGambitAtomicZangi]

Is this move more bizarre than Zangief's stomp target combos? - I find that hard to believe.

[@iamfiefo]

As a subscriber, yes, I have met a Capybara. Why do you ask?

[@damn51]

Literally just saw this move for the first time today. Someone used it on me and i was so confused he got a free combo.

[@lukeblaker8009]

Im not sure if im ready to be a capybara😊😊😊

[@skunch]

I think capcom is being cautious. Terry has an insane amount of tools, and if everyone of them was perfect or optimal, we would be having a very different discussion.

[@Alex-oo3jy]

Ok i think i figured it out lol, you never have to whiff the follow up, on the first two hits of the tc youre -3 you can go for the throw there, or shimmy because they cant go for anything besides parry to stop the follow up lariat, very delay lariat beats everything, beats od dp, beats jab , very delayed lariat also punish counters jabs for some reason, all of this tested on cammy lol also reversal crmk goes under lariat, but shes punishable, also needs more testing

[@MusicbyAmado]

For a second I thought you were gonna talk about his hellishy bad sweep