The Most CONTROVERSIAL Artist in Analog Horror (UrbanSPOOK + The Painter) || SPEEDPAINT + COMMENTARY

While I wouldn't recommend it, you can find The Painter here: @urbanspook or / @urbanspook
Wendigoon's analysis video: • The Best & Worst of An...
______________________
THRONE: throne.me/u/duchesscelestia/w...
PATREON: / duchesscelestia
BUY ME A COFFEE: www.buymeacoffee.com/duchessc...
DISCORD: / discord
STORE: www.etsy.com/ca/shop/duchessc...
CARRD: duchesscelestia.carrd.co​​​​
______________________
Music by Chillhop: chillhop.com/listen
Psalm Trees - bringmesun: / gyvus
L'Indécis - Fried Potatoes chll.to/43172c3a

[@owinlaa]

Honestly the entire story just reminds me of that one TikTok audio that was popular a couple of years ago where it was like “her arms were cut off. Her legs were cut off. Her tongue was cut off. Her eyebrows were then. Waxed.” Not to mention that unnecessary mr hands style death and the csa 😭😭

[@starz9273]

Mr hands... 😨

[@owinlaa]

@@starz9273 yeah, have you not watched it? Don’t if you haven’t btw

[@starz9273]

@owinlaa no, i didn't watch it but i watched Whang explain it and i don't plan on watching that ever lol

[@Hollzee_art]

@@starz9273 my dumbass thought ur pfp was sheldon at first

[@starz9273]

@@Hollzee_art You're wrong! Andrew Horowitz! 😼

[@meldoesntwanttotellyouthei7012]

This guys art is so good but his story is so bad 😭 it sounds like my edge lord 8th grade writing. I feel like the art could have stood on its own without the lame storyline. Or even if it was an unfiction website hosted by the fictional killer?

[@qimori8094]

Oo I like that idea, it probably would've worked better

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

He said that he is bad at writing AND his English sucks because he is not a native speaker

[@markcooperartcom]

Lame comment. Have you seen most cult status horror movies? Worst writing ever.

[@roethedoe]

​@@markcooperartcom Multiple things can be bad at once

[@ifeeldead463]

Maybe if they shouldve thought out their killer's m.o. first. Like ok, they paint their victims' demise but which victims do they pick? What days do they usually strike? Whats their weapon of choice? How do they usually kill their victim? Like that.

[@qimori8094]

Wow, I wasn't feeling particularly strong about his actions either way until you said that he was SELLING MERCH of the CSA VICTIM. That's beyond deplorable tbh... Tone-deaf at best and absolutely callous at worst

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

Just don't buy it, it's a fictional victim, there is no need to whine about it. Just let the guy cook, his series is not for you, friend, and it's okay. Throwing his series in the trash for that is silly, he has some very cool merch, like an awesome poster that seems like one of those promotional film posters. And his behavior online was just himself trolling, just ignore it. If you fell for his trolling, it just mean he is good at it

[@help9737]

Hey man, im just gonna preface this by saying that I respect ur opinion and am not trying to like, actually start something. so abt the fictional victim part- yes, we know he's a fictional victim, but the fact is that many people who have sadly gone through csa or sa in general are upset about how insensitive cory's depiction was, and think it could have been handled better than it was. Secondly how are you so sure about his behavior online just being trolling? None of us, really KNOW concretely what he thinks. How are you not sure he didn't claim he was trolling to get some people off his back, kinda like how sometimes people say something shitty, and then, based on if people react negatively or not, just say they were joking?

[@straawberryfieldsforever]

the context is weird, I wouldnt mind if the csa victim was a developped character on their own and had merch (that has happened in many media) but selling merch of their agony and suffering is kind of tone-deaf. I get it's not real and not AT ALL comparable to IRL things, but I just don't see the point of selling this kind of merch.

[@GraveyardMaiden]

Honestly it's no different than FNAF merch when you think about it. Like both are child murder victims, the only difference is one is just UwU'ed by cute mascots while the other is straight up honest by it

[@mrpickles-hb6zx]

@GraveyardMaiden yea and fnaf is pretty dark and edgy if u think about it, so the original comment is kinda dumb, everyone has trauma and making it other people's problem.

[@thrill-zilla-0v0]

The sad thing is, if he never had a freak out over one negative comment about his series nobody would have talked about him. Him having a major freak out over pastra saying "i don't like his series" is what caused his downfall💀

[@albertjorgecomon3243]

In one of the videos made for UrbanShit's controversy, he actually replied with him only "causing drama to get more views, due to his viewcount dying" I don't really know if he's sincere though, due to his breakdowns on the twitter website before.

[@mintallylost222]

Reminds me of what happened with Matt Shaw.

[@thrill-zilla-0v0]

@@albertjorgecomon3243 idk how that would have helped his veiw count because not only is pastra a bigger KZbin than him with a very active fan base, but pastras horror series is also written better than his while also not relying on shock tactics to tell a story. I don't know if he should know this but trolling is not doing dumb stuff online and having break downs over criticism lmao

[@thrill-zilla-0v0]

@@Demonetization_Symbol yea but on the internet if you have a freak out over the smallest criticism you become a laughingstock no matter what you made or what it's about

[@EmeraldBlockAnimations]

UrbanSpook revealed that his twitter account is a troll😭

[@Scp-707]

As someone who has suffered from heavy trauma surrounding CSA and animal sa (so i’m fully aware this type of stuff happens), you definitely can put stuff like that in your horrors! But the way Urban handles these topics, handles the backlash, and the way he acts like a literal edgy man-child is his downfall /Gen

[@a-garden-of-worlds]

Also a csa survivor, and I agree

[@Cute_Bunny_Boo]

What does CSA mean?

[@a-garden-of-worlds]

@@Cute_Bunny_Boo CSA stands for childhood sexual abuse.

[@Scp-707]

@@Cute_Bunny_Boo child s//xual abuse

[@Shockerpitzwei]

​@@Cute_Bunny_Boo child sexual assault.

[@0River_styx0]

“our lord and savior Wendigoon” I see you are a cultured person.

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

I fully expected her to end the sentence with "Sanderson," becuase I've heard that one a million times, and I was kinda confused because I had no idea what he would have to do with Urbanspook. Then she said Wendigoon and I went back to being on cloud nine about this video existing.

[@starz9273]

Wendi is a global treasure and must be worshipped 🙏

[@trevorhaddox6884]

I think you mean "Iceburg Boy" XD

[@starz9273]

@@trevorhaddox6884 Or "pee pee boy" (the stream incident)

[@trevorhaddox6884]

@@starz9273 "Who's frying chicken back there?"

[@vibrantgleam]

This is giving me the YanDev situation where he basically bashed everyone who tried to give him valid criticism

[@magicalronin]

Oh, quit being a gremlin. 😒😒😒😒😒😒😒 /s, if you couldn't tell.

[@starz9273]

​@@magicalroninmf said gremlin and meant it naw 😭

[@kookiesandcream5930]

@@starz9273 /s means sarcasm. they didn't mean it

[@starz9273]

@@kookiesandcream5930 ooooh okay ty

[@terraaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@starz9273 it was a reference to yandev's vid called hate and shame x

[@salmon6204]

I also think it's worth noting just how different his responses to Pastra and Wendigoon were. Dude was fucking PISSED when responding to Pastra's criticism, calling him an autistic furry that "just can't handle extreme horror" among other things. When Wendigoon criticises him though (and imo he went way too soft on him) suddenly he acts all measured and reasonable and all his activity on twitter was just "trolling." It's like when someone super popular talks about him his personality completely changes. Just seems slimy to me idk though I haven't been keeping up a ton with the drama so i could be completely misjudging the situation

[@thesilentangel8299]

He does seem contradictory in the sense of both “all publicity is good publicity” and “I want it both ways” kind of vibe.

[@silly-guy-55027]

He used autistic as an insult? Is he just trying to be an idiot now?

[@orisfamaemon]

The problem people like me have with the series, is that it uses horrible things without actually talking about them or giving the victims any personality, whilst also presenting it in the most quick to produce and mind-numbing way possible. All it is is a slideshow of white text on a black background occasionally interrupted by images and graphic descriptions of violence. And it’s done so much that no matter how graphic Slug makes it, it’ll just be the same thing and it loses all of its HORROR. And then when it comes to criticism, he just throws a tantrum.

[@Kayleska]

Exactly, he doesn't care to chew what he is trying to bite off. The series is presented under the context that these videos are documentation and compilation of evidence for an investigation. But the investigators themselves are never even slightly fleshed out, the families of victims are rarely if ever mentioned, and the "evidence" is presented as pngs of his digital paintings. Locations are sometimes shown, sometimes not. There is never any evidence markers in crime scene photos, we get a flash of autopsy report diagrams sometimes but not others and it isn't the whole report, just the body diagram briefly. There are so many things he just doesn't do that would strengthen the atmosphere and the direction he has chosen. I'm aware the paintings are digital, but he is pitching them as physical. With that in mind they should be depicted with slight environment around them. Like perhaps the location they are found, the painting in an evidence bag, the painting held up by an investigator so you can just barely see fingers on the edges of the composition, any one of these would be stronger than just the painting perfectly cropped by itself. I actually think with the way the series is edited, it would be a stronger concept if the murderer was the one making it. Cryptically bragging about each one and showing off his work. That would explain the lack of any care to mention victim's families, inconsistent editing, and lack of documentation and labelling one would expect from an investigation. Now I don't like that concept; I think it still runs head-first into UrbanSlug's casual handling of horrible topics. My actual suggestion is this series would have been better both within the amount of effort UrbanSlug seems to want to put into the series (it is just supposed to be to show his portfolio after all) and from a narrative perspective if the painter was the one showing us the paintings; but under the pretext of something like "I'm having troubling dreams where I murder someone different each time and this time it looked like this" maybe he is sympathetic and just suffering from these nightmares? There is a documented link between mental illness and creativity. Many a troubled artist has tried to express their experiences through art, speaking as one of them. For more horror trope direction maybe he eventually grows numb to them and over time begins to relish the unhinged dreams because he gets to live the depths of depravity and wake up with no consequences. And the last you hear of him he committed murder in his waking hours, so unhinged he thought he was dreaming. That could have minimal editing and text/voiceover. Or the painter after he's been arrested retelling his crimes cryptically in a series of interviews with a detective working on cold cases who is trying to tie each of the paintings to unsolved murders. (this requires investigation effort editing wise, but could still be unofficial in format if it's explained the investigator is a newbie sent to a stack of cold cases working by himself) It could be easily a slideshow with a guy voicing over with a tape recorder. Literally so much more that could be done with his work if he looked realistically at what extra work he wants to do for this showing of his portfolio pieces, and what that extra work would need to entail. TL:DR don't just cheaply spam the most extreme things you can think of without any tact, especially if your chosen storytelling format is analytical.

[@orisfamaemon]

@@Kayleska Holy crap those are interesting ideas. Whether it's more investigative or personal, any of them are better ideas than what we currently have.

[@StayCalm_DoArt123]

i think people were also having a good point on the writing and world of the series. Every video seemed to go on the same track and repetitive, with no new evidence on the serial killer. And why would the tapes by the police would present the evidence of the killer this way? It makes no sense, the more sense you sort of add to it, the less scary it becomes. It doesn't show the scary side of manipulative killers to avoid getting arrested.

[@toolatetothestory]

Nobody in this series has a personality. Neither the victims nor the killers nor the detectives. This isn't inheritly a bad or good thing, but why should one specific victim that people got upset about get special treatment when nobody is special?

[@drikeatmey]

​@@toolatetothestory You know that CSA and rape aren't normal crimes, right?

[@twilight3272]

The irony of the story is that the artist, in a way, begins behaving the same way as the killer. Just continuously seeking to depict something more depraved than the last time to one-up themselves.

[@weirdcakes304]

IMO, UrbanSPOOK should get somebody to write the videos themself. That way UrbanSPOOK can just focus on the paintings and improving his craft while the writer focuses on the story. Plus projects can be much more fun to work on with others rather than alone.

[@DraidtheSpacePirate]

THIS! What I wouldn't do to write for a willing artist! 😫

[@AdBlock-xl3tt]

Sometimes the proverbial line is defined not by ethics but by cringe.

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

Yeah... at what point does "it's intentional" stop being an excuse for weird/bad design choices? It reminds me of a book I read once. It was supposed to be epic fantasy, but it was actually extremely boring. I was looking through reviews online and one person opined that it wasn't supposed to be a traditional narrative, it was supposed to be a biography, and that's why the story is so meandering and pointless - because people's lives often are. And I'll accept a lot of things in fiction if they were done on purpose for a good reason, but that one just made me roll my eyes and think, "Congratulations. World's most boring biography, then. I still hate it." It might be intentional, but it's still not good. On the other hand, plenty of artistic choices ARE more justified if they're intentional. So where does that stop applying?

[@honeybeenation]

​@@ceinwenchandler4716 I think it stops applying- like Duchess Celestia said- when it's no longer good/interesting within the context of it's subgenre. Like, just looking at the epic fantasy biography example in your post: I'm sure there's plenty of fictional biographies out there that have shown meandering moments while still being overall engaging to read. The intention to include slower moments doesn't negate the need to keep your audience engaged.

[@PearlCradle]

I remember seeing a comment that someone made on this whole series. They said something along the lines of: "Instead of making me ask 'why would the killer do that?' it makes me ask 'why would the creator write this?'"

[@toolatetothestory]

Because some people like disturbing media. Why do people play FPS games? It's not because all of them want to commit mass shootings, you know. Why do people play Postal 2? Do they all want to use cats as gun silencers? The answer may surprise you.

[@bluewolf6323]

​@@toolatetothestory I don't think that's what they meant. IMO, if I I'm watching something and I'm only asking, damn who could write something like this, your story is already fucked. It can be a double edge sword but here's my thinking: why should I think about the actions behind the characters? In other words, why am I thinking who's doing this if unless it's something good? It's like when you watch a bad movie or cartoon and you are painfully aware that they are actors. You're not supposed to know that they are actors, you're supposed to get into the story and think a out characters. It's really bad...

[@chaoticcow4357]

Exactly! I shouldn't be asking myself why a creator made something, if it was well written and nuanced I would've been invested in that. A good example of this going right, is the SA episode in Moral Orel, I was watching that entire episode enthralled in what was going on and why each character was doing it. I never once questioned the writers because I knew exactly why with how the SA was handled, there wasn't anything to be concerned about. Writers need to understand that if you can't keep your audience within the fiction, then it might've not been entirely fiction.

[@BlightestBlight]

@@toolatetothestory there is a difference between disturbing media and whatever the fuck urbanspook has going on

[@mattz1lla]

I remember seeing a comment somewhere, I’m pretty sure it was Wendigoon’s video, and someone said “This is UrbanSpooks storytelling: “Once there was an Ugly Barnacle, he was so ugly, that everyone died. The end.” I couldn’t agree more with something like that lol

[@miaookami9351]

The term “f*cktoy Cory” at first reminded me of some breakcore artists, like usedcvnt and sewerslvt and the titles of some of their songs. But usedcvnt and sewerslvt seemingly chose those names as a way to vent their feelings, even though I’m not sure of their exact reasons. On the other hand, Cory’s name was chosen by Urban Spook for the sole purpose of implying what the killer did. It feels like he’s depicting a csa victim just to mock it for shock value.

[@KetchupCanvas]

As a survivor of CSA, this is gut wrenching to hear, especially the commodificaton of a trauma like that. Disgraceful, in my opinion

[@simroysmith1754]

Okay then don’t watch it

[@electro2888]

@@simroysmith1754 "what? you think cp is disgusting? well then, don't watch it." do you even hear yourself? 💀

[@simroysmith1754]

@@electro2888 yes if you are triggered by sa in a fictional story then don’t watch ignore it forget about it. It’s as simple as that

[@edorasmarauder5761]

It's not a real SA victim though.

[@toolatetothestory]

As a csa victim, I agree with simroy. It ain't real. So who cares @@electro2888

[@Kayleska]

By titling the painting "CORY" in his shop, he is linking The Painter series directly with the sale of the image; instead of leaving it as just another portfolio piece (as it was before, which I believe would have been fine). It is now recontextualized as the selling of a depiction of child SA and suffering explicitly and specifically. There's the aspect of diegetic vs non-diegetic images; Does the image exist within the story literally or is it an image that we as viewers see that is part of the entertainment (think of panels of a manga, book covers, shots of a film, etc.) Like the difference between the music WE hear during Hiccup and Toothless' first flight in How To Train Your Dragon vs. the song Stoic sings TO his wife in the sequel. That is non-diegetic music and diegetic music respectively. Because the rules The Painter series establishes; the paintings are all diegetic to the world. They are created in universe. The murderer of a child depicting said child in the most horrible state he could be in. The handling of these images then, in context, is reminiscent of selling of murderers' personal effects and creations. An ethically bankrupt practice that occurs in real life and is rightfully criticized. It is obviously just fictional, but I am a firm believer a better strategy for merchandising the work would be to distance it from it's diegetic context. For example: If he ever cares enough to flesh out the police report format the episodes sort of lackadaisically take, he could depict the paintings as though they were wrapped in physical evidence bags and photographed and have that on a T-shirt. He could do an entire grid of them in their bags and labelled for their cases. That's still diegetic but distances it from the painting itself and its accompanying implications; pushing it more towards the idea of the series as an ongoing investigation. Or, potentially much more non-diegetic but slightly less analogue horror-pure, he could depict the entire evidence wall so far with sticky notes and threads across it with pictures of the suspects pinned up as a t-shirt or print design. More work for him, but eliminates the direct link of "here is a fictional murderer's art of his victim on a t-shirt" and turns it into "Here is a t-shirt with evidence from a fictional ongoing investigation" It links it more to the SERIES as a property, and thus UrbanSlug as the artist himself instead of just the painting made by a (fictional) murderer. Merch of the series as something the real artist has curated and is presenting to fans is better than merch of his murderer artist's stuff directly.

[@mintallylost222]

"Art is supposed to comfort the disturbed and disturb the comforted." I would like to bring up a favourite artist of mine who also creates "disturbing" art. Her name is Yūko Tatsushima. As an SA victim, I found myself sympathising with the women depicted in her art. Yes, they're very disturbing and I definitely do not want to see them hanging on my wall at night, but the sense of discomfort is overwhelmed by a sense of pity and sympathy. My first reaction wasn't "Wtf is that?", it was "What have they done you?" There's this one artwork in particular that really made me feel something. It's called "White Prison", and it gave me an indescribable sense of comfort. It wasn't just pity and sympathy I was feeling, it was comfort. It made me feel safe, as though I was finding comfort in such a terrible situation. And it's not just me either, many SA victims [mostly consisting of women] have shared the same feelings as me. This is what I meant by art comforting the disturbed. But THIS art? It's just straight up disturbing. And I think that's the reason why I love Yuko's art but not this, even though both are described to be "disturbing". Yuko's art has a purpose, other than shock factor and advertisement. There are emotions and trauma behind it, and you can feel it. It takes SA victims seriously and sides with them. But THIS? This is just not it. You don't have to read this nor agree with me by any means. I'm just sharing my thoughts and opinions.

[@rijuaavara4549]

OMG you are doing a video on Urbanspook? Not quite a fan of his story because its really just shock factor but I'm excited to see what you think of it

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

It's well delivered, at least for me and some people. It's well done in the boundaries of a guy who never actually wrote something and is writing in a language that is not his native language

[@dragondoodles78]

I had never heard of this guy before this video and I do not like hearing about how he portrayed CSA. That's something I dealt with. I spent my entire childhood trying to heal from that and 10 years later I'm still dealing with the PTSD from it. And for him to go and sell merch of the victim, I'm sick.

[@swe3t_coffe326]

ALREADY HERE DUBIOUSLY SCENTED CONTRACTOR! And yeah, I feel like it was kind of just fully relied on shock value rather than a deeply intriguing plotline. Big nah for me, tho I appreciate the art EDIT: Knowing his behaviour on Twitter is trolling now makes me feel a little better. Just a little. Cuz ik he used "autistic" as an insult on there which kind made me wary of him cuz, yk, I have autism so eh?? Idk he confuses me

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

As an autistic guy myself, I cannot expect people to know that they should not use it as an insult, people are just uninformed about autism, and if it is pointed out in an angry way, it's just gonna make things worse. Let bro troll and leave him alone

[@ThatObnoxiousMagpie]

Him doing it for trolling makes it worse, because, if it was trolling, I’m assuming he just said that to cover his *ss, and even if that’s true, then he was purposely trying to provoke an internet fight because he thought it would be a funny response to criticism. Also, his work gives me major DORMITABIS vibes.

[@SLAYBOT_9000]

@@ThatObnoxiousMagpie NO THE DORMITABIS THING BC THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!!! like hes sooooo DORMITABIS it hurts. but minus the guy turning out to actually having those fetishes and writing them into his game. unless

[@toolatetothestory]

Can people stop comparing just an edgy troll TO ACTUAL PEDOPHILES THAT HARM REAL CHILDREN Jesus Christ do any of you know the difference between reality and fiction anymore??????????? Wtf is wrong you. @@ThatObnoxiousMagpie

[@galaxyjam3742]

Please don't give losers an excuse to use Autism as an insult. Its fine if they actually don't know, but 9/10 they know and/or just genuinely don't care and/or will go back to using it the moment you turn your back.

[@lady-aries-wolfy]

I deeply believed he took inspiration from Fallout 4 Quest. The dude called himself Pickman. TLDR: He goes and kills bad people and will paint them after the job. I’ve watched LazyBedHead’s Vid (that’s how I know about this “series”.) and I noticed something that bugged me big time. As someone who enjoys True Crime…. It felt like a edgy teen wrote this due to not providing time, date, and location. But the major part I was most annoyed the most: Forensic Evidence. Up until Ep. 7 they finally got some…. But before that, the two killers did gross stuff and didn’t leave ANYTHING behind. Not even finger print evidence on the items or victims. I apologize for my rant on that, I do love true crime. What do I think? UrbanSlug needs to look back and think about everything. Especially the CSA Merch he is selling…. NEVER DO THAT. The way I saw that, it’s like a middle finger to the people who survived that horrible stuff.

[@dorkenspache8353]

I would recommend watching Hiten Mitsuru's video on this series because she actually does a good job at pointing out the issues with it from a writing standpoint, which is just as important as the artistic aspect of it Edit: yeah I think you should definitely watch her video, because she mentions specifically how it being analog horror on VHS doesn't fit thematically. I think she mentioned it being a fake art blog would be better and yeah, that would help it out, like have a blog post about these paintings and have it be this taboo thing people like because it is paintings of real murders

[@mmmph]

*anvil drop sound* URBANSPOOK RADIO *screams and sounds of painting* WHERE WE PLAY THE CRINGIEST, MOST TRASH MUSIC EVER *out of tune guitar music*

[@peckneckanimations]

That made me choke on my Mac and cheese

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

Very funny. I have to admit that it was the best criticism on Urbanspook second to Wendigoon's take on "Did not like the writing"

[@ModernFennec]

Just a note, you should have probably given the trigger warning for the speedpaint before the speedpaint appeared on screen. Edit: I never claimed to myself think the picture was scary. Lol

[@Layleyy._.]

Trust me no one is gonna start raging and crying over that damn drawing 💀

[@Imjustkendall]

@@Layleyy._.bro imagine being against trigger warnings in 2023…

[@CVPIDCXTTEN]

@@Layleyy._.I believe it’s suppose to be either satire or a joke

[@Layleyy._.]

@@CVPIDCXTTEN oh I didn’t realize. Thanks ☺️

[@Layleyy._.]

@@Imjustkendall bro i never in my life said that im against trigger warnings like all I said was aint nobody bout to start creaming and throwing up over brains that looks like ice cream💀 Plus if ur that sensitive then literally get off of the internet and get real, there’s disturbing shit out there and not everybody is gonna take time out of their day to say tw: ice cream like bro💀 If ur gonna pull that card i might as well call you racist and fat phobic since im black and fat, and plus im a child so ur sexually harassing a 11 yo on the internet now. Jail time. Plus you didn’t put a tw for numbers because i have number phobioa. Now do you see how stupid all of that sounds? But All of that makes more sense than your og comment dipshit😘

[@StormieElli0tt]

3:22 i think an amazing quote that describes what your are saying perfectly is "art is supposed to disturb the comfortable, and comfort the disturbed" i recently heard it and i think it fits in this scenario

[@tcpratt1660]

The first Simpsons' "Treehouse of Horror" did "The Raven" - I don't think it's fair to compare a 19th century poem, no matter how excellent and classic it may be, to any horror subgenre, and Bart & Lisa's dialogue after the poem was presented as being both being critical of Poe's work in comparison to modern horror, and simultaneously recognizing that it wasn't entirely fair comparing Poe to cinematic works a century newer, and with an entirely different societal and mass media construct now compared to then, was very subtle, and well done. (FWIW, I would love to see horror haiku as well told as "The Raven", and I would also have loved to see if Alfred Hitchcock had the chance of producing "The Raven", as cinema, similarly to "Psycho", and exactly how he would have done that.) As for the artist here, his inconsistency in communication was so broad, I can't give him the benefit of any doubt, because if he was doing it as art rather than exploitation, he shouldn't have been trolling otherwise on Twitter, and he shouldn't have renamed the tee-shirt in question on his storefront. As for today's speedpaint, it's not horrifying to me, it's rather subtly beautiful and wondrous...if I were going to do an animation based on Emily Dickinson's poem "Because I Could Not Stop For Death", I would ask permission to use your speedpainted character, who would be the protagonist/narrator of the poem, and as the poem went on, she would progress from a completely whole woman with a completely fresh flower bodice, past where your painting is now, to a completely browned and wilted bodice covering her skeletal breastbone and ribs...

[@ThatObnoxiousMagpie]

It’s literally just if dormitabis had theft king as the creator. History really does repeat itself. EDIT: Yes, some darker and more adult things can be in media, but it needs to be done CAREFULLY. It’s like writing a story on the Holocaust or something sensitive. You need to make sure to be respectful to the victims about it, since it is a very real and serious thing that happened. You need to be very respectful and 9 times out of 10, make sure to work with people who had been a victim of it to make sure you aren’t going into too far territory. An example of a show that had r*pe involved in the story while still being a contributor was The Boys. They managed to make it not the key thing of the story, but it was still a part of the story that worked. (SPOILERS FOR THE BOGS S1) If it had been the Wife getting murdered by Homelander instead of r*ped, then it would have been a lot less of an impact. They needed to make sure the audience understood that this is no good guy; Homelander is an ass and WILL exploit his power in disgusting ways. Also, they do it in a less sensitive way, with it not being shown or being put into full detail to be like “OH LOOK BAD ADULT STUFF BE DISGUSTED”. They do it by having a key victim/witness mention it and talk about it slightly, but not go into full detail, more of just mentioning it when explaining why they hate superheroes. The person he’s explaining it to also goes quiet, and says something along the lines of “I’m sorry, I didn’t know”. The characters don’t joke about it or constantly bring it up. However, this “horror” series does not manage to do that. It’s just using it unnecessarily to make people uncomfortable because they realized that using a crap ton of gore wasn’t working, so they started to just be like, “ooooh look read this thing about how an evil murderer forced someone to commit b*astiality than murdered them and did a painting of them look how horrid this is isn’t it disgusting???” It’s unnecessary and is just shoved into the viewers face like a toddler crying for their parents attention, except it’s some ignorant ahole trying to get you to be scared, and just reuses it the entire time. It’s unnecessary, disgusting, and disrespectful. It serves no purpose.

[@sundowner414]

With Dormitabus we had evidence of the creator being a pedo. Urban is just an edgy guy getting up to some mischief. Also Theft King was a coward for apologizing.

[@ThatObnoxiousMagpie]

@@sundowner414 That’s why I said if it had Theft King as the creator. Theft King isn’t a ped0, he’s just self centered. I don’t think the creator is actually a creep like this, he’s just too egotistical to understand that maybe selling merch of an imaginary r*pe victim is bad.

[@capsizemoonz2251]

Urbanspook aint a pedophile tho

[@joemama-zm4de]

@@sundowner414 edgy mischief? bro is writing about animals banging people and children getting assaulted, what are you talking about

[@sundowner414]

@@joemama-zm4de how is that not edgy?

[@FrankensteinsMom]

Omg I was not expecting her to bring up Repo Man The Genetic Opera 🤩🤩🤩

[@Dogss6]

Arts good story sucks but the story has potential

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

Urbanspook's native language is not English, that combined with the fact that he is very inexperienced in writing explains why the story is sometimes sub par

[@PumkinPeter]

​@@Tactical_Tailgaterit's still a bad story.

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

@@PumkinPeter It is bad, but it people can like Twilight, I have the right to like The Painters

[@liviwaslost]

@@Tactical_Tailgateryou can like shitty media, but don’t be upset when people criticize them.

[@ghoultooth]

@@Tactical_TailgaterNo one says you can’t like it, but it is objectively poorly written.

[@sedutperspi]

A refreshingly good discussion of a topic most people cover as just "drama"!

[@cheezebagz729]

Bro how did I find this within a minute lol

[@Dantido]

This might be a bit unrelated, but I adore your argumenting skills. It is clear you put a lot of effort on this commentary. Cheers! I completely agree with your opinion. You nailed my perspective on the matter of UrbanSPOOK better than anyone else.

[@ModernFennec]

GIRL YOU POSTED YESTERDAY AND POSTED AGAIN!!! LIKE HECK YEAH!!! THIS MADE MY DAY

[@JewelWildmoon]

Now that he wants to improve on it since it's gaining traction, he should collaborate with someone who can help with the story writing or at least give him some guidance with that factor until he can create videos without the point being to intentionally make it more disturbing to spite critics.

[@Cylidae]

It’s fine to make merch of a CSA victim, but only if they have a story beyond CSA victim. If they’re a legitimate character with more to them, then it can be assumed people like the character for legitimate and defensible reasons, and bought the merch for those same reasons. However, if a character’s only purpose within the narrative is to be a CSA victim, I can only assume anybody buying the merch is buying it for that context, which is deplorable to me.

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

He made merch of all paintings, why would that one be an exception? Cory is also the first one to take a picture of the killer and is still technically missing. He is an important part of the series

[@csokissuti7343]

​​@@Tactical_Tailgaterbecause its about something traumatic and gives out zero information,it's just about someone's agony while being SA-d and killed. If it was informational or showed support towards CSA/SA victims,it would be kinda Okay (which I'm not really sure about,since the picture itself just shows a child in agony. At this point just make another one that is less gorey and show support)

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

@@csokissuti7343 I know that it technically gives out zero information, but it's still sensitive information. But why should we have guidelines to write evil characters? Re-write an entire fictional event just because some people are being bothered about it goes against artistic freedom

[@csokissuti7343]

@@Tactical_Tailgater artistic freedom doesn't give you the right to capitalize off of something that is traumatic while giving out zero support to actual victims. It's called consequences for your own actions,idc if he is trolling or nah.

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

@@csokissuti7343 My friend, there are people who capitalize in other types of traumatic events in media and they don't help the real victims, because it is all fiction. If you cannot understand that none of this is real (Or you still get mad when you know someone is trolling), then the problem is on you

[@CrabyMan]

Gonna be honest, I don't give a shit about this guy, but I can see why others do. Heres what I'll say, I think overtime people have tinda forgot how trolling works. Someone can still have strong feelings about something or a thing they've created, even wanting to make it good, have moments when they've just heard enough criticism and lash out. While also having moments where one will troll as a way to anger the critics, the whole point of trolling WAS confusion, making people question what you think to the point of frustration. Trolling was specifically to say things you KNOW are wrong, have ridiculous arguments FOR them and then piss more people off. Im not saying the dudes in the right, but it can be clear Urban still actually cares about "Th Painter" while also willing to piss off what Im sure they see as haters. Seems like its working. Thx for vid as always dutchess

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

People rather whine than think "Is he trolling?", and it shows how much people have gone insane

[@CrabyMan]

@gabrielgomes6972 I wouldn't call it whinging. Obviously, we've had shitty artists in the past. I was more so saying yeah I think the artist does care about their work, just trolls to fight criticism. Therefore, it's not fair to say that they might only be exploitative because they troll along with talking about how they want to improve the series. Though freedom of speech is a thing, you're allowed to still have criticism thrown your way when you put something on the internet. Obviously, yes, there's like social rules or whatever of actul criticism vs. someone is a dick, but my point still stands. It's bad faith, in my opinion, to just leave it as "People have gone insane", being the only reason for criticism.

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

@@CrabyMan People rather cry about a work of fiction than stop being bitches about anything. Almost no one actually cares and only want to talk shit about something, so I honest cannot care about most criticism of The Painters

[@CrabyMan]

@gabrielgomes6972 and that's fine, tbf I don't care about The Painter either, mostly due to me not being a viewer of their work. Everyone's gonna have an opinion, but yeah, at the end of the day, works of fiction do affect our view on things. There's a lot of people's views that are affected by the media we consume, and the media affected vise versa, I think its fine for folks to have opinions on if something is too much or negative, positive, whatever. And to be fair to you, yeah, sometimes the opinion is bitching. I just don't think that's the case on this one. Overall, though, Ubers is probably not a bad person or trying to exploit topics.

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

@@CrabyMan In the end, if someone gets influenced by The Painters, they are gonna be influenced by anything else

[@lr8t]

I did NOT think u were gonna make a vid of this? :) Love it!

[@iktomi]

what im more annoyed about is that he doesnt age restrict the ones with sa and beastiality... and then complain when he finds out kids are seeing his videos?? on a website with 0 restrictions with curious children?? idk thats the main issue with him for me

[@kageyureihyuga793]

Is that the same dude that got mad at Pastraspec for criticizing his stuff because it had no story?

[@liviwaslost]

Yup

[@augustgates]

Wow 2 vides in a row 😭 THANK YOU

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

Oooh. I haven't seen this video yet, but I'm... excited is perhaps not the right word, considering the topic the title is implying, but you're my favorite art KZbinr, I love analog horror, Wendigoon recently did a video comparing Urbanspook's series to another one so I'm at least passingly familiar with it, and I LOVE the look on your face in the thumbnail. And this seems to be a bonus video, so... yeah, pretty hyped up :)

[@CreativaArtly]

Knew you were going to say Wendigoon. That video was solid. Love his content so much. 😊😊😊

[@drew6145]

New viewer but the execution of this video and topic is amazing. The articulation of points envy worthy

[@puppetpawss]

The issue with how he handles these topics is that UrbanSpook does what most horror film/story creators do when handling themes of SA/CSA. They treat it as nothing more than shock value. UrbanSpook, and other creators like him, only add SA/CSA to their stories in order to basically go “WOW!!! LOOK HOW HARDCORE I AM!!! MY STORY DESCRIBES A CHILD BEING ASSAULTED AND MURDERED!! IN GROSSLY GRAPHIC DETAIL!!! AREN’T I SO COOL AND HARDCORE?!?!?!!” The issue that comes with doing this is that, by not approaching SA/CSA with care, and essentially just tossing it into your story for spooky points, it paints the very real crime and travesty as though it’s a fictionalized concept that only exists in horror as a means of disturbing an audience. Instead of leaving the viewer as disturbed because SA/CSA is a real crime that happens to a lot of people, or leaves the viewer sympathizing with the victims of the act, it’s just there to make the viewer go “Wow, that’s super messed up”, and nothing else. It also may just be me, but if you’re going to add these aspects into your narrative just for the sake of shocking the audience, you don’t need to go into as graphic of detail as UrbanSpook does. A paragraph that vaguely describes the crime is enough. The only idea I’m getting out of people who describe the graphic detail of mutilation/assault towards children just for the sake of a shocking narrative is that you’re a freak. I don’t even feel like I need to explain why exactly you’re not particularly a good person if you pop a boner over the idea of writing about kids getting mutilated. I’m not saying that UrbanSpook is entirely an awful person, but I don’t exactly think somebody who responds to criticism by calling their critics “autistic furries” is somebody who’s entirely on the nice list.

[@DumplingDumplinga]

Wow you gave a good point of view! I also agree that you can make terribly horrendous things happening if, it’s in an negative response

[@marzvpan]

Before I even watch OMGG I'VE BEEN HOPING YOU'D TALK ABOUT THIS CONTROVERSY

[@-candylovesans-]

I knew you loved horror stuff, but I didn't know you love watching Wendigoon! You have officially gained some more respect from me.

[@okiokipo]

i dont have much to say but as a CSA victim his entire thing makes me uncomfortable and honestly, i don't even see the appeal in his art

[@GraveyardMaiden]

Honestly as a CSA victim as well, it's good that it does make people uncomfortable and disgusted. Like what's worse a work where the subject disgusts people and they remained horrified or a work where the topic is glossed over and the fandom sexaulizes the child victims

[@okiokipo]

@@GraveyardMaiden i respect that and i totally agree but i feel like his art doesn't make me uncomfortable in that way, it makes me uncomfortable because I don't feel like he takes what is a very real thing, seriously, idk of yoy agree, would love to hear your thoughts :)

[@GraveyardMaiden]

@@okiokipo I can understand where you're coming from, but since he is the creator he doesn't have the same suspension of disbelief as the audience have and is extra aware that none of it is real. Much like how horror actors can make fun and dick around with the film and make fun of it. That said it would be a different case if this was a real murdered child or if he was just making fun of csa victims in general

[@okiokipo]

@@GraveyardMaiden yeah that's understandable, im not sure i agree but i can see where you're coming from

[@GraveyardMaiden]

@@okiokipo Honestly it's fine if you don't like that kind of thing. But overall I have to say urbanslug has really manage to unintentionally show the hypocrisy with in the online horror community because if you think about if the Painter series had made cutesy anthro cartoon characters for the art people would have 0 problems with slug selling merch even when the lore would be the same

[@joj_ad]

Some people just suck. Also, great video.

[@StayCalm_DoArt123]

Maybe if the series was more going for a subgenre like splatter horror in the somewhat form of analog horror, maybe his series would be more forgiven. Because people knew what they were going in for.

[@tecneon]

I saw somewhere he didnt think this series would get the attention it did. It sucks cause his art is really good i just think he needs someone to help him with the story.

[@demonninetaledfox]

Leaving out the CSA elements--I don't think people are going to be lenient about "it's art focused not story focused" because it feels more like spook is just using the genre of storytelling as a slideshow of his art. Was it an interesting idea? Yeah. But it also feels like a gimmick. A lot of people trash horror that is too visual focused with no real story, even outside of the genre. You can be artsy, gorgeous, or have gratuitous and realistic gore, but without a story those things in the genre as a whole are seen as shock value. The Painter just feels like a shock value series overall. "Here is how the victim died, here is an unsettling image to make you feel grossed out and uncomfortable, we haven't caught the killer(s)" and to say "well I just wanted to show off my art that's the only reason I made this series!" just makes analog horror creators and writers feel like spook doesn't respect the medium. I have seen some truly wonderful and technically skilled graphics and art being used to tell a story--some of which was made LONG before the analog horror project was done, but they incorporate it well and still have an interesting and engaging story to tell. Spook is just a bad writer, in a medium where at least half of your stuff HAS to be writing or else you are just making a gallery. And also his poor writing doesn't do his artwork justice and he should have thought about it more to create a gripping story that would make his art memorable if he really wanted to use THIS medium in particular. But I have to agree with other authors/creators who say he is using it as a gimmick because analog horror is popular. Spook isn't even the only person I see do this with poor writing but good visuals, he's just the most controversial with everything else

[@kyoukafan]

I started watching this video and thought 'Oh Wendigoon had just made a video about it too' ONLY TO FIND OUT YOU WATCH HIM TOO? Thats honestly so cool

[@DraggingBallZ]

Does he at *least* use TW and/or CW and put resources in the bio? I have to know good lord

[@mrpickles-hb6zx]

It's no one's responsibility to put a warning

[@DraggingBallZ]

@@mrpickles-hb6zx When portraying heavy topics that real life people have to live with for the rest of their lives, you have a certain level of responsibility. It's not hard to do or to understand

[@weirdcakes304]

he doesn’t put any warnings at all as far as I’m aware

[@weirdcakes304]

@@mrpickles-hb6zxyou’re probaly the type of person that doesn’t take trauma seriously

[@thatsockeatingdemon]

@@weirdcakes304 he does, kinda. it’s extremely vague, but it can be seen in his later videos saying “some topics in this video may contain things people would call disturbing” or something along those lines.

[@supirkev]

vibingleaf is the exmaple of cool & good art horror

[@tazoolnynx3947]

Play Fear & Hunger; your whole perspective of conventional horror will turned on its head.

[@loganpaschedag8829]

He made the painting of Cory before He maid The Painter and literally decided to give it the context of “F**kToy Cory” and he even sells it too! Again How Far Is Too Far!? Sure even if he doesn’t get mentioned after that one tape but that’s what pours salt in that wound more because there’s no reason as to why Cory had to die that way, and in the tape “Pigs” you get a women (let’s just say) “Mr. Hands-ed” by a horse on viagra pills and at that point you don’t really need much of an imagination as to these deaths, paintings and their titles. If I showed this to my family members, they’d hate it for Sure or anyone for that matter! And like many said about the series is that there is no story behind this. The Painter might have to be rewritten and reworked because it’s deeply flawed in it’s story (Cory’s death especially)

[@ah-sh9dw]

Thank you, all the "there's no story" criticisms annoyed the heck out of me. With the csa I think the issue is that it's both extremely horrible and extremely common. If your art reaches 20 people, chances are at least one of them will have been abused when young and there could potentially even be an abuser watching. When that many people are affected by it it needs to be tactful and shown from the victims perspective

[@EmeraldBlockAnimations]

In my opinion, UrbanSpook is actually really scary and horrifying but the writing is lazy urbanspook is saying hes trying to improve the whole analog horror UrbanSpook is really good and has potential

[@Bashuraptor]

In all fairness, Urbanslug's outburst isn't just something random. Pastra is known for his reviews and (almost insufferable) positivity. His following is much bigger than Spook's, so he introduced a large number of people to the Painter in a negative light. That's a lot of added stress. Mind you, the guy was getting called a pedophile on a daily basis. That's gonna cause someone to snap. He didn't handle it the best way, but tbh of course he wouldn't.

[@NoxAtlas]

Pastra himself admitted that he could have phrased his criticism much better, but he still stands by his point that Urbanspook is just bad horror that solely relies on shock value. Even if the criticism was quite harsh on Pastra's side, it doesn't give Urbanslug the right to resort to ableism

[@focornali4349]

The premise is really interesting for a horror project, but then I think about the logistics of it it's kind of funny. Like, these dudes go around with their full art kit at every murder site? Did they use oil paints, then they would've needed a few days for it to dry properly? Was it watercolor or tempera or gouache? I'm assuming paint as the main medium given the title. Pencil sketches or even pastel art seem more reasonable because of how easy accessibility and clean up would be.

[@IamEL1979]

This is what I'm wondering. At one point the police were called as they were in the house, they wouldn't have had time to create those paintings. Did they make them before? Do they use the paintings as a plan for the killings and then leave them there to boast victory? Do they have sonic powers and can paint at the speed of light? Do they just manifest the paintings into reality? It's a huge oversight and completely took me out of the series once I realised it.

[@cantmakeacreativename2072]

@@IamEL1979 honestly them planning it sounds so funny to me considering how comically elaborate their murder scenes are.

[@IamEL1979]

@@cantmakeacreativename2072 Yeah, its the only logical way they could've done it too. The writing in this series is so ridiculous you can barely call it a story.

[@aniflowers1998]

My question would be: if selling the art of this fictional "Corry" is exploitation, isn't technically selling any art of this series also ecploitation? Judging from this video, since I didn't watch the analog horror show, all those victims depicted in the pictures where murdered in incredibly cruel and grafic ways. So why is the "Corry" one specifically the one that crosses the line, but not the others? Aren't the others just as much exploiting real live murder, as that fictional "Corry" drawing is exploiting CSA? Shouldn't that mean that we shouldn't sell art of murders, fictional or not, in general? Or does the "Corry" one cross the line specifically becouse it involves a kid? If we take the kid aspect out of the equation, would it still be crossing the line? Or is the deciding factor the SA? If we take the SA out of the equation, would it be okay to sell a drawing of a child murder? Questions that have no definitive answer, since the answer is and always will be determined by the view of the individual. But I think they are still interesting enough to think over! ^^

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

It's stupid to complain about fictional crimes or art. He was not discriminating anyone, leave him be. For instance, he has the cool posters in his merch store, I want one. Just don't buy the ones you don't agree with

[@aniflowers1998]

@@Tactical_Tailgater oh, I'm leaving him be. I'm not forming an opinion anyways, since I don't know the work personaly. Those where just some pretty basic overarching questions, using this specific case as an example, to get people thinking ^^ The same questions can be aplied to literally any other art projekt with similar themese :3

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

​@@aniflowers1998yeah, but when you watch the think like I do (I'm a fan) you understand that it's good in it's own right. For instance, the impact that a white on black VHS text written "This is the painting" became chilling for the viewers shows how hard he is working on it; And about the merch, the posters are very good and while the shirts are indeed a little too graphic for clothing, the "This is the painting" shirt is very interesting, since it is simple and also a nice nod to the fact that most fans now can no longer hear this phrase without some good and old Vietnam flashbacks

[@aniflowers1998]

@@Tactical_Tailgater like I said, I'm not posing any opinion here xD I just gave general questions as food for thought. What people do with these questions, is up to them. They would loose their neutrality if I answered them myself.

[@victoriapulcifer6218]

​@@Tactical_Tailgater"It's stupid to complain about fiction/art" Which _was_ his quote, word for word I'm sure, when the Twilight series came out. Or Ghostbusters 2016. Or High Guardian Spice. Or Velma. Or-

[@TheobaldLeonhart]

I admittedly have... Complicated feelings, about SA (probably because I had to live with my ab... Traumatizers, for a large part of my life. And an undiagnosed trauma disorder) I have, interests relating to it. But I do tend to keep the more explicit stuff to myself (which is why I'm being vague here) I also try not to spend any money, on stuff relating to it. Because the thought of doing so, makes me feel gross But, bringing it back to Slug. I think it's fine that he depicted it. I just don't think it's fine, that he joked about it (like, I'm interested in... Kagekuri? But I can't watch the anime, because it's constantly depicting minors in sexual scenes, as a joke) And the fact that he's making merch out of it, also grosses me out

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

Ooh, you saw the Wendigoon video too!

[@drewo.127]

I agree with everything you said! The sub-sub-genre discussion is actually really interesting, and making an 80s/90s slasher inspired analog horror project to promote art is a brilliant idea! HOWEVER…this particular handling of that concept, combined with the wishy-washy outburst responses by the creator really hurts the overall reputation of the project and the creator! I can’t say I’m gonna check this series out in any capacity due to what feels like lazy shock horror, which if handled differently, I’m sure could’ve worked somehow, but I also can’t say I don’t wish the creator the best, either! I hope the series either finds its footing, or can reboot itself if needed. And I hope the creator can chill out and ESPECIALLY remove that T-shirt from their store! (Unless the show is rebooted, in which then that pic can be re-contextualized!) TL;DR: Cool concept, interesting discussion about Analog Horror sub-genres, but horrible execution and behavior by the creator!

[@Kshahrewa_r]

“our lord and savior Wendigoon” TRUE!!!

[@ModernFennec]

DOUBLE CELESTIA???!???!

[@djalibi]

this series in my opinion has the most descriptive gore out of any analog horror i’ve seen

[@SunnyCress]

Someone I’m following on insta considered dong a re-write (I’m not sure is they’re going through with it) to expand on the idea of the painter but make it less problematic and give more depth, which I’d be very interested in seeing

[@LokiMartin]

That would be awesome to see!

[@serenegenerally]

I actually agree with most of your points, good job

[@Heretic_real]

Imagine being the poor bastard who bought the Cory shirt before he added some dlc context to it.

[@jusclocks]

Ok guys so i'm making an analog horror series that's not done yet but i want you guys to tell me if it's good : The analog horror series is called "Time Configuration" and it is about Time distorting into a catastrophy with people who get no-clipped from their prespective time frame to another time-frame, and objects and buildings getting no-clipped too, as of now i have 10 tapes and many of these tapes which we're also worked by the NSF (The National Science Foundation) the tapes dive deep into a rabbit hole of the layers of time and how the world would be of humans didn't have the consciousness or awareness of Time, and of how the lack of observation that the human gives upon the effect of the world changing every second makes it cease to exist, causing people to get rippled onto the broken fabric of Reality and Time and to try and find a way back to their original time frame. Scientists specifically from Portland Oregon interview some people who we're from different time periods, the people had no awareness of the date and their confusion onto why the place looks different from their respective time period, there are also significant altercations on people aging as an 82 year old person looks like they're 25. Otherworldy time-functions decide to merge with Earth's time only to create an unnatural space, or a never ending path of desperate people using all of their might to not be taken away from the human eye. My analog horror series might be a bit confusing for some people as it has a deep scientific realism into it, and that ppl in general don't rlly care about the true meaning of time and what could happen if Time never existed, my analog horror series gives you an answer onto how disfunctional human awareness can be that a single human mind that is aware of time existing can prevent a natural disaster from happening. Also if i made any mistakes or if anything on the story could be different, i would appreciate the help.

[@voydsaysyeet]

this entire review is the exact same way i feel about the series

[@WhiteCresentKnight]

If he just wanted to write fucked up ways to die he should have just held a literal gallery show and put the ways they died on a placard for people to read so he can be all edge with no point.

[@WhiteCresentKnight]

Not to mention his “measured response” was only to wendigoon. He had a full freak out about Pasta and squeal slurs. Your giving him far too much credit, he’s clearly lying about how Twitter is for trolling.

[@snowheart4077]

The paintings are unsettling, but that's kid of sad there is nothing much behind it...Yet their concept seemed preety By the way just after hearing 6:37, I wish the both of you happiness :3 (like litteraly, hearing that is just so cute xD)

[@toxic_tomb1238]

10:01 its like that thing someone said about movies, "a good movie can survive a bad score, but a good score wont survive a bad movie" just like that, a good story can survive bad visuals, but good visuals wont survive a bad story, in most cases, a few exceptions, like godzilla movies usually dont have good stories, maybe not bad, but nobody goes for the story, they go fir the visuals, and in a way urbanslugs art did "survive", but not in a good light, all because of that one painting and its context, it survived but it was also just hit by a semi truck, so his art isnt in good shape, speaking in a sense of the public view of it.

[@noobyart]

K, if you want the mixture of horror and art, as well as analogies horror used as self promotion but actually good, watch Darian quilloys series

[@Drawing-Roses]

You Know Midsummer Murders! I watch that Show!

[@TheSoulvian]

If I had to compare The Painter to a semi-mainstream horror movie, it actually reminds me most of "The Poughkeepsie Tapes," just with more over-the-top deaths like something out of a Saw or Terrifier film (I know he's admitted to being a fan of the latter series) and the cops finding creepy paintings instead of creepy video tapes. It makes me wonder if he's ever seen it.

[@tylerwendt5714]

When I watched this series, and also for a disclaimer I love watching Analog Horror But this series really threw me off. it made me sick and disgusted, but also very scared and horrified that it took me 3 years to recover from just watching that I felt super paranoid and just super scared of anything for those 3 years until I finally started to calm down so yeah This series was a different level for me

[@missmamawork]

I have a big project that is not exactly ARG but more a youtube/blog puzzle. I use a lot of my own art in there as well. It has horror elements and fantastical elements in it, but I would be horrified myself if my art was related to a real event.

[@MRHOPE5394]

Kicking puppy is bad

[@simroysmith1754]

In your opinion morality is subjective

[@catloki]

selling the art tied to csa victimization is quite... iffy at the best. he's clearly such a talented horror artist but i can't imagine supporting it lol. agree with you all the way on that point

[@simroysmith1754]

Damn should there not be any merch of guts or Casca?

[@simroysmith1754]

Like where was all the energy with the berserk author?

[@catloki]

@@simroysmith1754 don't know of this situation so obviously i don't have an opinion

[@WMans264]

He did nothing wrong. You're just jealous he's a good artist and doesn't sugarcoat shit. There is no reason for you to be mad about this. And if you don't like it, don't watch it then.

[@WMans264]

Also, the simroy guy is right. Why do you excuse the berserk author who also wrote SA, but get mad at Urban? He's just trying to make a complex story.

[@silver_dusk]

The picture of the urbanspook painting you used for the thumbnail looks like a terrible,funny ad for lipstick idk why I'm thinking this 😭

[@artsandgoodies4653]

Also worth mentioning that art depeciting horrific things should have proper warnings as well. So proper warnings are also important for ethical dark art.

[@orobogamer3.040]

Maybe there will be more story later? Idk maybe if he adds more lore and clues and better story maybe that will save him from the controversy if there will be more clues and better story i will be on the case like Batman and Sherlock holmes

[@ShortSkullDog]

I feel like with the narrative the first, or oldest, gruesome murder and painting they find could have been that of an art teacher. And the painting made could have something to do with inspiration. Or the nature of the death. It may be generic but it would have given some sort of motivation.

[@TheCatFamilyIsHere]

just wanna ask a quick question do you know murder drones and if you do what are your opinions on it also love your channel ❤

[@VitaStarz]

As someone who's into horror animations n stuff too, The Painter is the scariest analog horror I've watched, i also been wanting to draw a bit more disturbing and grotesque things too. Also tbh I've watched a lot of analog horror n i honestly feel that all but not if most analog horrors have the most samey story writing to where the scenarios is very bland, generic, not surprising, and easily predictable.

[@Tactical_Tailgater]

I even read someone's comment saying that analog horror "needs" supernatural entities. It's just very dumb to say something THAT stupid

[@Kotoha.hashibira]

I just looked the art is so good and creepy and scary

[@jermfanaccount]

listen, i'm all for portraying CSA as a horrific disgusting thing because it really is a disgusting thing to do to someone and a horrific thing to go through. i don't agree with the people who say you shouldn't portray it at all because it absolutely deserves a place in art and horror media, because it's deeply personal and scary. the horror of CSA can be done super well and some of the scariest media is stuff that portrays it in a genuinely impactful and terrifying way. that being said.... 'Fucktoy Cory'??? seriously?????? that goes past the line of trying to portray CSA as horrific and into the realm of just being really disrespectful. like that wasn't even clever, that was just awful. if anything good has come out of this, it'd be Sr. Pelo saying the painting looks like a gingerbread man getting kicked in the balls which is _extremely_ funny to me

[@playernotfound9489]

urban spook vs suburban hope, what wins?

[@ImtheREALX7]

This is the only way i could watch this kind of “documentary” you could say. Im too much of a wuss to watch the other guys have unnerving music in the background and a unsettling forest.

[@Mooshroom_owo]

Imma be honest I got jumped scared by the thumbnail qwq

[@Seras_moon]

LOEY LANEEEEE AHHHH I LOVE HER TOOOOO

[@pixelatedheartx]

Why make it in video form if you arent planning on using its advantages? I feel like it wouldve been best if he wrote it in a similar format as Backrooms level pages are, so that they can be read both as a description/explanation of the art and as the story. I also think the critisisms of his story are still valid, because even if it falls under a different subgenre, it should still use the different aspects of this medium to his advantage, otherwise there is no quality to his series aside from the art

[@HasvenWorld]

Goddammit I had just gotten Cory's painting out of my head until I saw the thumbnail

[@user-Noname367]

i think it’s funny looking

[@IloveHolyTrinity]

God bless yall

[@monikorasort]

This entire series reads like something I’d write in 5th grade if I’d known what LiveLeak and 4chan were