The Most Controversial Champion Ever? | NASCAR Championship Race Review & Analysis

[@EricEstepp]

Do you think NASCAR will tweak the playoff format for next year?

[@KMHrock89]

Last time I criticized something you all jumped down my throat so… congrats Joey Logano.

[@acedelta12]

If they don't, I will be disappointed.

[@trevorhintz1290]

Cup Series Points Standings (Full season points)(Current points system) 1. Kyle Larson 1185 (6 wins) 2. Christopher Bell 1163 (3 wins) 3. Chase Elliott 1159 (1 win) 4. William Byron 1142 (3 wins) 5. Tyler Reddick 1107 (3 wins) 6. Ryan Blaney 1095 (3 wins) 7. Denny Hamlin 1068 (3 wins) 8. Alex Bowman 979 (1 win) 9. Martin Truex Jr. 949 10. Brad Keselowski 943 (1 win) 11. Chris Buescher 930 (1 win) 12. Joey Logano 929 (4 wins) 13. Bubba Wallace 878 14. Ty Gibbs 867 15. Ross Chastain 852 (1 win) 16. Daniel Suarez 766 (1 win) 16. Kyle Busch 766 18. Chase Briscoe 750 (1 win) 19. Austin Cindric 749 (1 win) 20. Carson Hocevar 686 21. Todd Gilliland 630 22. Michael McDowell 624 23. Noah Gragson 612 24. Ricky Stenhouse Jr 590 (1 win) 25. Ryan Preece 584 26. Josh Berry 579 27. Erik Jones 516 28. Daniel Hemric 515 29. Zane Smith 505 30. Justin Haley 503 31. Austin Dillon 493 (1 win) 32. Corey LaJoie 489 33. John Hunter Nemechek 447 34. Harrison Burton 439 (1 win) 35. Aj Allmendinger 289 36. Kaz Grala 206 37. Shane Van Gisbergen 205 38. Cody Ware 146 39. Ty Dillon 92 40. BJ McLeod 65 41. Jimmie Johnson 60 42. Anthony Alfredo 54 43. Derek Kraus 44 44. Joey Hand 43 45. Corey Heim 35 46. JJ Yeley 34 47. Parker Retzlaff 32 48. Justin Allgaier 24 49. Austin Hill 23 50. Josh Bilicki 21 51. Riley Herbst 20 52. David Ragan 17 52. Joey Gase 17 54. Josh Williams 11 55. Kamui Kobayashi 8 56. Will Brown 6 57. Juan Pablo Montoya 5 58. Timmy Hill 3 58. Chad Finchum 3 60. Cam Waters 2 61. David Starr 1 61. Jeb Burton 1

[@trevorhintz1290]

Cup Series Points Standings (Chase Format)(Current points system) 1. Christopher Bell 2412 2. William Byron 2409 3. Kyle Larson 2366 4. Ryan Blaney 2357 5. Chase Elliott 2342 6. Denny Hamlin 2328 7. Joey Logano 2321 8. Alex Bowman 2318 9. Tyler Reddick 2275 10. Martin Truex Jr. 2257 11. Austin Cindric 2246 12. Daniel Suarez 2226 13. Brad Keselowski 2208 14. Chase Briscoe 2184 15. Ty Gibbs 2169 16. Harrison Burton 2122

[@acedelta12]

@@KMHrock89 And the pendulum has swung the opposite way. *jumps down your throat*

[@erichetherington602]

The pace car incident was hilarious.

[@CousinCarl99]

Honestly that moment was pretty representative of the sport as a whole at this moment.

[@mesquitegirl2013]

That really was and you know that pace car driver is not gonna ever live that down. They should’ve had him sign the barrel that he busted and auctioned off for charity.

[@AlexE5250]

Honorary pace car driver Kyle Larson

[@BwInNewJersey]

Was the most exciting part of the race.

[@ericwimpey4235]

Wonder if a pace car driver can get a dui 😂

[@Therealjefflong]

Logano saying "we didnt run good the last 2 weeks, because we didnt focus on them, we didnt care" thats a huge problem

[@Kbrady8207]

So didn’t go 100%?

[@alexhathcock1380]

Hmmmm, isn't that against NASCAR policy? Not giving it 100%?

[@ReelAZMatt]

Duh! They put there effort 100% into Phoenix, that is the perk of winning the first round in the semi final round.

[@Therealjefflong]

@@ReelAZMatt no shit. It's just a shit system that drivers can "take 2 races off"

[@joshuaduff7439]

It is a huge problem bc it means the whole body of the season doesn't matter as long as you have a win.

[@hansolo989]

It’s become harder and harder to even try to explain why a racing series has a “playoff” format to my non-NASCAR watching friends. This is the reason why.

[@craigstephenson7676]

Why would you defend it in the first place? I tell my friends that the system is stupid and to not pay attention to it

[@Cuhh346]

Eric soldout to nascar by not criticizing the system

[@hansolo989]

@@craigstephenson7676 should have used “explain” rather than “defend“

[@mpf1947]

You never had a legitimate argument to begin with.

[@garyjackson3531]

Why do you guys watch then? The playoffs aren't going away. Especially after such an exciting end!

[@samharris3508]

Entertainment > Legitimacy. If you like the format, that's fine. I prefer to watch other forms of racing where the excitement for the championship is real. The excitement surrounding NASCAR just feels so hollow to me and often leaves me feeling icky most of the time.

[@zippymistletoe1272]

The best teams with the most wins in every sport isn't always the champion.

[@NickClements-x9f]

​@@zippymistletoe1272sports are different than motorsports, in most motorsports you race the same teams every week so playoffs are dumb

[@zippymistletoe1272]

@@NickClements-x9f my point still stands

[@samharris3508]

@zippymistletoe1272 I agree. Kenseth may have only won once in 2003. But he is a far more deserving champion than Logano on 2024.

[@ak17ism]

Maybe I'm old fashion, but I think its more exciting to go to a race mid-season, understanding the points could get turned upside down at any point, for any reason. It makes every race equally as exciting to me. Currently, the regular season just doesn't matter at all.

[@NR_88]

Credit to Logano for playing the system, but the fact that he had the least amount of top 10s from a champion in 74 years just doesn’t sit right with me.

[@99starman]

So you would award the championship to the driver with the most top tens? That's just dumb

[@DrThic]

​@@99starmanNo, we should reward the most consistent driver. Logano had a horrid season. He was 14TH IN POINTS. He was far from the most deserved.

[@TrubadorofOxtown]

@@DrThic Tell me you were an old Darell Waltrip fan without telling me you were an old Darrell Waltrip fan. That 💩 is old and stale brotha

[@marykuettner752]

So you would prefer a driver like Larson that fell off during the playoffs so badly that his 50 points from regular season didn't help? or you loved the riding around collecting points? Sorry, I think this system is at least always exciting.

[@TheMcbearcat1]

Eric please sober up before your next video. To tell fans to get over it. This format I will not and have not watched for the last five years. Not one race. I went to the brickyard this year but I have not been to a race since 2019. I will go to maybe the brickyard if on oval. Rest forget it.

[@JRT909]

If this “playoff” format was the greatest you wouldn’t have to defend the champion every year.

[@EricEstepp]

I never said it was the greatest. I like it. But I also liked the Winston format. I'm just pointing out how this format is different

[@ojtoothpaste2240]

You only like it because Nascar pays you to like it and make dumb cringe vidoes.​@@EricEstepp

[@Chenglor91]

@@ojtoothpaste2240 You try & make better content then.

[@SethTanmerling]

​@@Chenglor91you don't have to make videos to point out someone is a shill

[@SethTanmerling]

​@@EricEsteppprofessional fence sitting alright 😂

[@DennyDeliversYT]

bruh the playoff world is just a team penske simulation and we’re all just living in it… we fr got 17th avg finish guy winning the title 💀😭

[@driftguest3811]

We need the memes remake where is it?

[@BFDIFinalistsfan2763]

​@@driftguest3811it's coming

[@eduardclark]

Change your name bro FedEx left

[@drummerbob10]

Is it me or were all of the drivers having lower average finishes this year? I looked on Racing Reference and no one had above 11th average finish.

[@mesquitegirl2013]

We have the 48 car to thank for that one

[@AndreChambers-ih1gk]

Joey Logano has finally broken a record in this elimination-style playoff format! He is the first three-time champion in this format, and he deserves it! Congratulations to him, and to the 22 team, and the ENTIRE TEAM PENSKE ORGANIZATION! Team Penske has now won three championships in a row!

[@RealSantaClause]

7 top 5s, 13 top 10s, 21 top 20s, and a 17th place average finish Ever in an argument about how legitimate the playoffs are? Show ‘em these stats and it’ll completely shut down the argument.

[@painfullyaveragegamer]

4 wins

[@jeremiahevans7752]

​​@@painfullyaveragegamer3 weeks to soley focus on phoenix.

[@painfullyaveragegamer]

@ due to winning. He is clutch when it counts he has proved over and over again

[@Rob-db4cc]

Giants beat undefeated Patriots for NFL super bowl win... Johnson and Knaus dominating the 10 race playoff. Hate the format all you want. Don't blame Penske for working well in this format of Johnson in the prior, Everyone knows the rules going in.

[@joekaput747]

@@Rob-db4cc Giants and Patriots didn't have to play the 30 other teams at the same time, either. So what's your point?

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Guy missed the top 10 in 23/36 races lmao What a format 😂😂😂

[@NASCARFAN93100]

He had More Sub 20s than Top 10s

[@darrinlambert88]

Had the wins when it mattered

[@irvingboy1122]

Joey Logano “I love the playoffs” NASCAR fans “we hate the playoffs” Elton Sawyer “I think this format has delivered” but we’re bots apparently so we can’t complain about the playoffs nascar as a sport has reached a new all time low and I don’t think anything can top this but I’m sure nascar will find a way

[@donnyhoney151]

Speak for yourself

[@craigstephenson7676]

@@donnyhoney151we are

[@74stang2togo]

​@@donnyhoney151This format is so moronic that the "Chase" is a masterpiece in comparison, and it was shit too.

[@cheetahyoda]

Ratio'd ​@@craigstephenson7676

[@samharris3508]

​@donnyhoney151 the people that like the playoff format are an ever increasing minority. And the fact that the announcers have to gaslight us and pretend that this is actually exciting, and not entirely manufactured should speak volumes.

[@mrgeebers]

Eric Glazing the format 😭😭🙏🙏

[@antoniestrada1972]

One thing I find fascinating about Eric is that despite being a Matt Kenseth fan he doesn't care about the championship format

[@noone7206]

boring people like boring drivers

[@antoniestrada1972]

@noone7206 Matt maybe boring let's hope he's not the last true champion of NASCAR

[@javislice]

3 championships in the last 7 seasons. 3 championships in 6 championship 4 appearances. called his shot immediately after blaney won it last year, n he delivered. complain bout the system all you want, but don't let it take away from joey's ability to get things done when it matters most. he's the new closer

[@MG121.]

Don’t hate Logano, hate the format. He doesn’t make the rules, he follows them. 🤷‍♂️

[@mobmaniac]

I think we're allowed to hate both

[@craigstephenson7676]

I will not miss an opportunity to hate Joey Logano

[@callmeqwerty9094]

Least obvious Logano fan

[@joanncyr7509]

Congratulation Blaney.

[@lmq9516]

I’ll hate Joey Logano to the day I die.

[@richsmith6997]

I watched the World of Outlaws World Finals this weekend. The sprint car championship wasn't decided until Friday night. Going into Saturday night there were still 3 contenders for the late model championship. Unlike NASCAR, the World of Outlaws final had plenty of drama without having to resort to playoffs. Points alone decided the WOO championships just like it used to be in NASCAR. I was a diehard NASCAR fan for many years. But these days I prefer dirt racing by far.

[@YoutubecommentGuru]

👍👍 Cherokee speedway in gaffeny sc and Carolina speedway near that area as well, fun tracks

[@BigBirdGoesRogue]

Much longer season too, I think the outlaw sprint season was around 70ish races this year

[@YoutubecommentGuru]

​@@BigBirdGoesRogue86 races scheduled, some rainouts

[@David_Bell3939]

Agree 💯! Dirt racing is way better to watch in person and on TV! 👍🔥

[@NeedsLessWedge]

​@@David_Bell3939NASCAR and it's eams would have heart failure trying to drag all their circus tents and side shows to multiple tracks per week. They used to when they first got on the maps of folks. Dirt guys and their tempo blows the NASCAR tempo out of the water.

[@lmao-ev6nz]

Stick and ball formats don't belong in motorsports

[@busterbarlow9094]

Why? I love it haha.

[@JoeyWord]

You bitched when the Winston Cup champion won with 2 races to go.

[@lmao-ev6nz]

@busterbarlow9094 Tf you mean why, it's 1v1 in stick and ball not 1v30+ and you don't get points for losing in stick and ball. You don't sound smart

[@ming454]

The main thing is that we have multiple different tracks that needs different skills unlike stick and ball where it's completely the same game over and over

[@busterbarlow9094]

@@lmao-ev6nz so what? Why does that mean it doesn't belong? Who has these moses like tablets that have what is and isnt allowed in racing?

[@gregbushatz4257]

I’ve been a NASCAR fan for almost 35 years and since 2006, my interest has waned. Probably going to stick to dirt and Indy now.

[@kg0173]

So after almost 20 years you are are still here and basically enjoying it.

[@TyG-r1b]

​@kg0173 he just said he's leaving. You know nascar was once only a regional thing in the south right? That could easily happen again.

[@SprintCarMan24]

​@TyG-r1b already starting to happen with the national sprint car revival in the midwest and the indy 500 becoming huge again

[@MICHMIKEY]

I feel the same way. I can watch 4 or 5 high quality national touring dirt series races for the price of one nascar ticket. Plus I'm starting to like the racing more.

[@TheCloudCreation]

Basically the same story for me. Goodbye NASCAR

[@trevorhintz1290]

Cup Series Points Standings (Full season points)(Current points system) 1. Kyle Larson 1185 (6 wins) 2. Christopher Bell 1163 (3 wins) 3. Chase Elliott 1159 (1 win) 4. William Byron 1142 (3 wins) 5. Tyler Reddick 1107 (3 wins) 6. Ryan Blaney 1095 (3 wins) 7. Denny Hamlin 1068 (3 wins) 8. Alex Bowman 979 (1 win) 9. Martin Truex Jr. 949 10. Brad Keselowski 943 (1 win) 11. Chris Buescher 930 (1 win) 12. Joey Logano 929 (4 wins) 13. Bubba Wallace 878 14. Ty Gibbs 867 15. Ross Chastain 852 (1 win) 16. Daniel Suarez 766 (1 win) 16. Kyle Busch 766 18. Chase Briscoe 750 (1 win) 19. Austin Cindric 749 (1 win) 20. Carson Hocevar 686 21. Todd Gilliland 630 22. Michael McDowell 624 23. Noah Gragson 612 24. Ricky Stenhouse Jr 590 (1 win) 25. Ryan Preece 584 26. Josh Berry 579 27. Erik Jones 516 28. Daniel Hemric 515 29. Zane Smith 505 30. Justin Haley 503 31. Austin Dillon 493 (1 win) 32. Corey LaJoie 489 33. John Hunter Nemechek 447 34. Harrison Burton 439 (1 win) 35. Aj Allmendinger 289 36. Kaz Grala 206 37. Shane Van Gisbergen 205 38. Cody Ware 146 39. Ty Dillon 92 40. BJ McLeod 65 41. Jimmie Johnson 60 42. Anthony Alfredo 54 43. Derek Kraus 44 44. Joey Hand 43 45. Corey Heim 35 46. JJ Yeley 34 47. Parker Retzlaff 32 48. Justin Allgaier 24 49. Austin Hill 23 50. Josh Bilicki 21 51. Riley Herbst 20 52. David Ragan 17 52. Joey Gase 17 54. Josh Williams 11 55. Kamui Kobayashi 8 56. Will Brown 6 57. Juan Pablo Montoya 5 58. Timmy Hill 3 58. Chad Finchum 3 60. Cam Waters 2 61. David Starr 1 61. Jeb Burton 1

[@outfield1988]

Right the 5 was the winner.

[@outfield1988]

22 was knocked out.

[@outfield1988]

Penske had a push to pass button.

[@outfield1988]

Why would you not race every race to win Joey.

[@alex.m8969]

Your point? Joey wins when it matters, can’t hate the driver hate the sanctioning body

[@AndyFromBeaverton]

Fed-Ex got tired of 19 years of excuses.

[@ZPaul_]

The thing that frustrates me the most is that the playoffs have done absolutely nothing to help with tv ratings. Which is why it was even made in the first place. Why continue to double down on an idea that has done nothing to help the sport and is actively hurting it?

[@dylansmock4876]

FWIW nascar is the only motorsport whose viewership numbers are currently growing year over year (indycar is stagnant and F1 is in slight decline) so they have at the very least not hurt ratings.

[@busterbarlow9094]

Because of change. Most I see complain are older long time fans. I havent seen a single new fan say the format is stupid. Im 49 and have watched since early 80s as a kid. But I really like the changes. The races will also get shorter eventually so get ready for that lol.

[@purerockets9557]

The ratings have been up though

[@supertornadogun1690]

@@dylansmock4876 Nascar's ratings dip noticeably during the playoffs.

[@MICHMIKEY]

​@@dylansmock4876end of 2024 ratings were down from 23 across the board. They spent a ton of money to increase ratings by 3% after decreasing by 200%+ over the past 15 years.

[@MidlifeCrisisManagement]

Lagano got it right when he said, "I may not be the best driver but I do have the best team."

[@kg0173]

I always think that Hendrick is the best team in NASCAR.

[@BlueJimmie48Fan]

This puts Kyle Busch's 2015 and Jimmie Johnson's 2016 titles to shame. If this is not the breaking point to at least alter the format, I seriously don't know what is the breaking point.

[@mesquitegirl2013]

Steve Phelps has said that they’re not changing anything I mean as long as they’re making money they’re gonna think everything is great

[@crystaljon]

Don't forget Tony Stewart 2011. Stewart was barely clinging to the top-10 in points when the Chase began.

[@clemsonfan322scstrong]

KFB had to work his ass off coming back from a injury and earned that title

[@crystaljon]

If there's one thing NASCAR hates, it's domination by one driver or team. Kenseth dominates in '03? - Make the Chase Johnson dominates Chase era? - Make Playoff Eliminations. Perhaps NASCAR will change again if Penske continues to win championships.

[@jaymoent7167]

@@clemsonfan322scstrong it’s because he missed 11 races getting hurt in a non-Cup racing event that he didn’t deserve to even race for a title, much less win it.

[@Bob-en1ge]

I'm not a Joey Logano fan, but I'm fine with the way he won this championship. To use a football metaphor, the 22 was basically a wildcard team who got to the Superbowl and won.

[@szymonkunda2197]

Respect your opinion but I absolutely HATE football comparisons for one reason: in football you take on just one opponent at a time. In racing you face 35 other rivals week in and week out for 36 weekends

[@mateojohns05]

except this isn't football... it's racing. EVERY single other racing series uses a full season points format yet nascar thinks we need to be different and have a stick and ball format

[@adepressednygiantsfan]

remove win and you’re in in every part of the season, add 3 races to the final round, and make the regular season 1st 2nd and 3rd place finishers be rewarded more and we have a w format

[@ic3man]

Or just get rid of the playoffs all together

[@limprooster3253]

Hear me out: reduce the number of cars in the playoffs to 12, have a 12 race playoff with three eliminations of 3. 3 race shootout at the end. Keep win and you're in, but require top 20 in points

[@gatling216]

Take win and you're in out of the equation and I think everything suddenly gets a lot more fair.

[@JWC924]

Joey still gets in

[@4js123]

remove the round of 16 only make it 12 and just take the races from the beginning and make it the round of 4 boom

[@adamgdeaton]

What’s hilarious is that Hamlin has not been able to win a championship under any format.

[@CaseySpecoli]

My previous favorite driver won his 3rd championship and i don't even care lol. Nice job nascar. Looking forward to traveling to some sprint car races in 2025

[@AldridgeKarting88]

If you are near Missouri check out the Ironman 55 at i-55 in pevely. 55 lap world of outlaws 410 race. Incredibly racey track, best 1/3rd mile in america

[@CaseySpecoli]

​@@AldridgeKarting88pevely is on my list for sure in future years. Going to Eldora for the Kings Royal and probably a big race at port royal next year.

[@IllinoisRacer5]

​@@CaseySpecoliport is awesome dude have a great time. Went there 2 years ago, hadn't been there since the 90s, it's cool seeing how much they have improved the place

[@CorbinRichards-d7e]

Modern port royal is PA's best track. Exciting seeing people talk about dirt track racing on the internet. Sport is in a great place right now

[@TJracing99]

Come see us at eagle raceway if you are ever in Nebraska (I work there in the summer, we have started having big 410 races again)

[@theprettybond159]

This is why you are the only nascar channel worth watching, no bitching and complaining constantly. No click bait garbage. Just giving the news neutrally and fairly

[@BFDIFinalistsfan2763]

HE SAVED AT THE PUMP!

[@theyungs]

the pump?

[@BlandSpagetti]

He saved at the pump

[@Jimenez_22]

HE SAVED AT THE PUMP

[@Papadooley]

Am I the only one who doesn't think this was controversial? He had a good season, good playoffs, and ran like hell yesterday

[@Schneids71]

Yes!!!! You are.🤦🏼‍♂️

[@dannyalex7152]

Don't blame Joey... blame NASCAR for this. Joey just did what the rules stated (along with a Bowman DQ)

[@blueredlover1060]

The champion saying that two races didn't matter to him really sits wrong with me. He might as well not raced if that's how he feels about it.

[@winningfreak1]

I mean it's a fact. They say the same thing about the Daytona 500 winner "Now he can go and focus on just the playoff tracks and not worry about the rest of the season"

[@FlannelGuy_1978]

Congrats to the first Champion to be eliminated from the Playoffs..

[@kg0173]

They same way we can say to Blaney in 2023 who won the championship without winning.

[@Fulcrum-sf5zb]

Racing against a cheated up car does not mean you got eliminated. The 48 cheated, got himself eliminated, which means if he had not cheated the 22 would have still been in.

[@MrRozzi20]

I just wanna say everyone in the playoffs had the opportunity, the 22 team capitalized on it. 3 time champ baby!!!!!!

[@Franklawson725]

Yawn.

[@kylevm8]

this man seriously got more championships then kyle busch 😭💀

[@racegrubb2152]

One of Kyle's championships, 2015 he missed like 10 races that year 😂😂too much

[@tg426]

Eric, thanks for a great season of reporting and commentary! Looking forward to all your off-season NASCAR news!

[@tommyfitzgerald828]

Greatest thing since sliced bread. 3 Championships is certainly enough to live up to that name, he has accomplished plenty in a fantastic career. Congrats #22

[@dlj9178]

Championships should be won the way Richard Petty, Dale Earnhardt, & Jeff Gordon use to win them.

[@mikefeltner4216]

Boring

[@donnyhoney151]

Oh yeah, where one driver has to only finish 30th or better the last 3 races to win it all !! Boy that's progress and a lot of anticipation there.

[@craigstephenson7676]

@@donnyhoney151I would legitimately prefer that

[@antoniestrada1972]

​​@@mikefeltner4216 you sounds like you fundamentally don't like Motorsports

[@torenthe_expert8977]

Didn't Richard petty win his championships in a system where half of his points was from the Daytona 500 or was that just one of them.

[@justinlong6847]

I simply cannot understand why nascar in the US does not run a full season points format when every other series who runs under the nascar brand does. It shouldn't be this complicated to reward the seasons best driver.

[@marcforget33]

Joey Logano was eliminated by the end of the round of 12. Then he was put back in because someone else was disqualified for not meeting the minimum weight. Tell me again why we're not supposed to call this a lucky championship.

[@JaggedJamo]

if Austin Dillon didn’t become a bulldozer at Richmond, Logano wouldn’t have been eliminated to begin with. Easy to only look at one side of the story

[@samharris3508]

​@@JaggedJamoIf Stenhouse didn't become a bulldozer, the Dillon bulldozer wouldn't even be a thing now would it?

[@DeckofLies]

@@JaggedJamo the AD bulldozer which happened because of the format that incentivized it. The format that makes the end of the season entirely based on luck. Ironic huh

[@Indyian]

Sounds like nascar manipulation honestly

[@professorlarrs]

Richard Petty said, “I’d rather be lucky than good.” So if it was a lucky championship, so be it.

[@robertnunnery6768]

Joey had the 2nd most wins in the series and won 3 of the last 10 races in the playoffs, but he isn't a legitimate champion because of average finish? Even for Joey haters, this is weak.

[@tonyrock1983]

If Bowman wasn't DQ'd after the Roval, Lagano wouldn't have made it to the round of 8.

[@xandersthoughts]

The apex of the “win-and-in” format. We’re going to look back at this season with some very critical eyes.

[@maureenoconnell2413]

It’s not a “win and in” series. if that were true, Kyle Larson would be the winner because he won twice as many races has anybody else and ended up being the one with the most points, and yet he wasn’t in. I think it’s a shame.

[@acedelta12]

How do you know we already aren't?

[@kg0173]

As far as I remember all Logano titles were kind like this - non deserving and he put it to another level. Next goal for him should be winning it without winning a race.

[@racegrubb2152]

​@@maureenoconnell2413😂😂logano won 4 races. 4 is not half of 6. Phoenix was his 4th of the year. Also if this was the old system from 20 f..... Years ago Larson wouldn't be champ either.

[@hawkinskenneth]

@@maureenoconnell2413it is a win and your in series. You win one race and you are automatically in the playoffs. Also Larson failed to start every race choosing to stay in Indianapolis over going to Charlotte. He shouldn’t have even been eligible based off of that fact

[@bryanberryman3384]

I’ve been watching NASCAR for over 30 years, and trust me, you don’t want the old system back, nothing worse when the championship is locked up two weeks before the season ends. This format is exciting and creates drama, which makes good story lines.

[@President_Grover_Cleveland]

You do realize that only happened 5 out if 29 seasons the Latford system was used? Right?? Also… 7 top 5s, 13 top 10s, 21 top 20s, and a 17th place average finish These are the stats of Joey Logano this year. Compare that to any one season under the Latford system and you tell me if you still think the playoffs are “good.”

[@twister1296]

I didn’t think this was a 75% race but hey if you did that is your opinion and I respect it. Thank you for your coverage and reactions for this 2024 season. What a fun ride it was this year. Hope 2025 is another good one.

[@alexspitznaugle6387]

Worth mentioning that Logano has the most championship 4 appearances, most championships, and the best championship 4 win percentage of all active full time drivers. Going forward, Logano is the favorite if he makes the championship 4, no matter what the full season looks like

[@TheDeadman14]

Logano isn't to blame. He just worked with what he got, and used it against the format he was given. That's all it is. BLAME THE SPORT THAT LET THIS HAPPEN. Not the driver.

[@michaelkudlicki4194]

I am so glad there wasn't some weird caution at the end. I feel like that would have ruined the race a little. Congrats Joey.

[@bradfordmcgomery9058]

Thanks, Eric for all the good information and the good coverage of this year‘s NASCAR season. Hope you had a great time in Phoenix this weekend. You did a wonderful job of coverage. You have the best channel when it comes to news and updates in my opinions on NASCAR news and races. Look forward to all of the videos that you continue to put up until the next year. I have got two tickets at the Bowman Gray stadium in Winston-Salem. I’m sitting at the start finish line. Hopefully you might can score some tickets to be there. Anyway, congratulations on this year, on my opinion of doing a great job.

[@snuffynt]

Logano winning the title with only 13 top 10s and a really low average finish isn't a great look, but win wise he definitely did have a good season, 4 points wins and winning the all star race is pretty good.

[@TruexJr_LivMorganFan]

Thank You Martin!

[@WarpandXeno88]

We would be having these same discussions if Byron had won yesterday or if Bell had gotten in and won. Logano didn't do anything wrong, he simply beat the current system. Penske has their stuff together to work the playoff system better than the other teams.

[@Hellothereworld6382]

Thanks, Eric, for fantastic reporting this race and season!

[@itsabouttime6220]

Joey Logano is a 3 time Nascar Cup Champion. The fact that he won a regular season race and the All Star race. He won 3 races in the playoffs including the Championship clinching race that by the way had 38 other drivers in it. Let's not make it seem that he backed into it. Sure he was fortunate that they caught Alex Bowman cheating in the first place. But after that he earned it!

[@phsylax]

Eric I have a question, (see below at the bottom) NASCAR says this format is all about winning yet Kyle Larson, who won 6 races, 2 more than anyone else didn't make the champ 4. So how the heck does this format reward winning, it doesn't. It rewards winning certain races which to me is stupid. The idea of the playoffs is cool, lets copy all the other sports that have a finals to keep the end of the year interesting but it DOES NOT WORK in motorsport if you want to reward the best team. For one none of the other sports (i'm Australian so excuse me if I get stuff wrong) like the NBA and NHL have a WIN X AMOUNT OF GAMES AND YOURE IN, how silly does that concept sound. and to me that's what really breaks this format. Also, you don't have every team playing on the same court, in a final you get team a vs team b, but in motorsport, you may have the 2 finalists (team a and team b) racing against each other but all the other competitors are still out on track. Imagine trying to play an NBA game with 4 teams in 2 separate games but both are taking place on the same court. It's once again stupid. I tried to explain to some friends that if you make the playoffs you still race against everyone else but just arent scored against them and they found it silly, and they just thought it should be the play of people racing and the rest of the teams are done when the regular season is over (if you didn't make the play offs). Which i think makes sense but once again imagine the uproar. All in all this format just DOES NOT REWARD THE BEST DRIVER over the course of the season which motorsport should do and basically, every other sport does (apart from Supercars from next season). Imagine if F1 had a playoff system too, how silly would that look. This format doesn't even reward what it says it rewards, winning. It just rewards the best people in a pre-determined set race which isn't how it should be. And dont even get me started on the Champ 4 being one race, its not like basketball where all the courts are the same, no every track is different in NASCAR so why reward the championship on 1 track. Its just so stupid, you could be great at every track but not a Phoenix and you can't win the championship. Its just so gameafied. Motorsports NEED TO REWARD THE BEST DRIVER OF THAT SEASON, and not play to some stupid antics about making the end of the season more interesting. I watch motorsport to see the best race it out, and unfortunately, this format doesn't allow for that to happen. Anyway, my question is what changes would u make to the playoff format?

[@phsylax]

also as it much as it seems I'm not trying to take this away from Joey, he one this fair and square. He did what he had to do in the system to win, i'm just saying the system needs to change.

[@KMHrock89]

It used to be that way, up until 2003 the best driver of the season won the championship. The driver with the most points more often than not was the one with the highest average finish. I understand why NASCAR wanted a change after Matt Kenseth won in 2003 with one win, but he had 25 top 10’s, average finish of 10.3. Between races 2-15, he was outside the top 10 once. He finished outside top 30 a total of 3 times all year, and finished last at Homestead. Some form of playoff format has been with us ever since.

[@merlinbeen8432]

where are all the supporters of Joey years ago when the loon took him out a few laps from winning 4 in a row and could have had 7 wins that year, he had to settle for 6. He did not make it to the final 4. Now he is the problem? Where were people who are bashing him, defending him years ago? NASCAR fans are nuts.

[@wheresaldocanoe]

@phsylax Your point about the Playoffs rewarding winning certain races over winning in general is absolutely true. The median champion driver under the 2014-present Playoff system won five races en route to the championship. Under both the full-season 1975-2003 Latford system and the 2004-13 Chase system, the median champion driver won six races. If we took averages rounded to the nearest whole number, these numbers would be seven, six, and five for the Latford, Chase, and Playoff systems respectively. Not only this, we can also look at win percentages. The average win percentage of a championship winning season under the Latford system was 21.28%, compared to 16.39% under the Chase system and 14.95% under the Playoff system. As for changes I would make to the Playoff format, my ideal solution would be to scrap it entirely and create a brand new full season points system where a race win yields a higher percentage of points relative to the 2nd and 10th place finishers (and subsequently everybody else) than the 1975-2003 Latford system. Alas, under the framework provided by NASCAR, I would propose the following: 1) The Championship Four round needs to be three races at three completely different types of race track. I would propose a road course, short track, and intermediate oval, but most combinations of track types would do just fine. That said, absolutely no superspeedways because those races are too much of a lottery to be representative. 2) Get rid of win and you're in. The drivers competing for a championship should be the ones capable of running and finishing up front every week. 3) Eliminate the Round of 16. Nobody sitting 13th or lower in points after 26 or 27 races deserves to compete for a championship. My personal acceptable standard is considerably higher than 13th or lower, but if NASCAR is going to insist on an elimination system, so be it.

[@mothx95]

at this point, i just accept the fact that nascar is not a serious series. they don't care about championships, and they don't care about racing. stage cautions prove that.

[@charmanderichooseyou2726]

2:38 that explains Harrison Burton having a chance to win the championship. So consistent

[@redhitman5311]

The problem is this 1. Joey got into the playoffs with a win at a race with 5 overtimes where all the ones who should have won had to go to pits to get gas. Joey had no business winning that race. 2. He should have been eliminated in the round of 12, he fumbled that round and didn't deserve to go to the round of 8, instead he got 100% completely lucky where Bowman got penalized to where Joey could advance. 3. His average finish for the whole season is like 17th ... that's not championship contending average finishes, not even close. He was a mid pack driver all season but thanks to the playoffs and a few important wins and ALOT of luck, he gets to be a 3 time champion ... No matter how you slice it, Joey shouldn't have been close to the Championship 4. He shouldn't have been in the playoffs, he shouldn't have been in the round of 8 and he shouldn't be a 3 time champion, but it's not his fault, he played the game NASCAR set up and won the prize. Ultimately, NASCARs Championship system is unfair and broken, the Championship in this modern playoff system doesn't matter. Joey maybe a 3 time champion in NASCAR history books but his Championships are not as prestigious and honorable as the other 3 time champions. The fault of that is all on NASCAR for making the worst Championship format in its history. (I would rather have the systems of very early NASCAR than to have this current system, its absolute garbage)

[@kg0173]

Simply give the title to whoever wins the final race.

[@merlinbeen8432]

R U nuts? How do you think racing works? Crayons and puppies?

[@Jim_Berry]

Totally disagree with you. In the old format, I couldn’t have cared less about the champion..it was boring at the end of the season. Now I’m glued to the TV and on the edge of my seat.

[@davelogan3792]

#Penalized? No Bowman got caught Cheating!

[@ascrant3]

We get it, you hate Logano. It’s gonna be okay. Take deep breaths

[@dy24forever]

Joey Logano has a 17.57 average finish this season and won the championship let that sink in folks

[@painfullyaveragegamer]

Yet he is second in wins.

[@trevorhintz1290]

⁠@@painfullyaveragegamerHe finishes 12th in points using a full season points format. You don’t win 4 races and finish that low in points unless you have a lot of bad finishes, which he did. He finished 20th or lower in 15 of the 36 races.

[@JWC924]

He is a 3x champ, let that sink in.

[@dy24forever]

@@JWC924 3 championships is impressive and all but this format makes it not as valuable if my favorite driver won 7 in this format I wouldn’t even say he’s the best of all time because this system rewards spurts of moments not all season work a guy from 30th In points could get a win and have a shot at contending for the win that’s crazy…

[@joeyager8479]

Kyle Busch missed 1/3rd of the season in 2015, was granted a waver, made it into the playoffs and won the seaon championship. Let that sink in. The number of idiotic scenarios that are possible with the "playoff" setup is truely rediculous.

[@NeverwascooL]

As much as I hate Logano I do have to admit Penske is killing it in NASCAR right now and Logano making the Championship 4 every even season since it's started is a crazy fact.

[@trevorhintz1290]

If they want to have some sort of post season bring back the Chase format. May not be what the masses want but they’ll take it over the playoff.

[@ry-x]

Eric's Groovy Gauge scores for 2024 Atlanta 1-100% Bristol 1-100% Kansas 1-100% Homestead-100% Darlington 1-95% Clash-90% Daytona 500-85% Talladega 1-85% Southern 500-85% Martinsville 2-85%* Atlanta 2-82% Gateway-80% Iowa-80% New Hampshire-80% Daytona 2-80% Watkins Glen-80% Las Vegas 2-80% Michigan-75% Kansas 2-75% Talladega 2-75% Championship Race-75% Las Vegas 1-70% Dover-70% Sonoma-70% Richmond 2-70% Charlotte ROVAL-70% Texas-66% COTA-65% Pocono-55% Coke 600-50% Brickyard 400-50% Chicago Street Course-48% Phoenix 1-45% All-Star Race-45% Nashville-40% Bristol 2-35% Richmond 1-25%

[@stocker2525]

I had been my own appreciations on each races too, its interestoing watch the people got diferents opinions instead hear the only one each weekend.

[@-BigMike-]

I don't watch NASCAR anymore. The stages and Playoff bs ruined it for me, but seeing Bristol and Richmond at the ass end of this list makes me sad. Wtf have these people turned this sport in to???

[@JJRacer43]

Just saying, if we would've smartly used the Winston Cup format, Bell would win the championship over Elliott by a mere 5 points with Byron, Reddick, and Larson also within mathematical contention. We would've had our own modern-day 1992 finale.

[@acedelta12]

"There's the checkered flag for Christopher! He's the champion for '24!"

[@robertparker6654]

I'd walk away from race like that. Glad you like it. Nothing for a Ford man there, snooozefest for me. Have fun with your Chevy race , e.pty stands like you've seen before and dead sport in a one and done season, enjoy your Chevy utopia.

[@tyrrell0076]

Enjoy your playoff utipia where the 14th driver in points wins, Who cares if you like fords​@@robertparker6654

[@derekbrummett9239]

And when was the last race Bell your "champion" won?

[@PKInTheUniverse]

People can say what they want about Joey Logano, but he will not be denied in an even numbered year. The odds were stacked against him yet he still found a way to win it all . I’m looking forward to 2026 for another Joey Logano championship year.

[@joetax729]

Different isn’t the word It’s earned championships we care about. And this format allows you to be called a champ without earning it

[@ADale-nj4cx]

The blue oval, 1/2 of the playoff races.They had the best ride at the end of the year.

[@RyanVargas_23]

I’ve been saying this 1:50 Opinions on format aside, logano and team have found what they need to with the format, they get hot when it’s needed, which is what this format rewards. He won when he needed to and was in the right when things happened (ex: Bowman DQ). You need to be there to take advantage, they did exactly that.

[@doomusrlc]

Logano becoming the JJ of the playoffs format.

[@southernman87]

Well,Harvick won 10 races one year and didn't win the championship, and nobody fussed about that. Harvick should have definitely won it that year. I'm okay with Joey winning it because he did what he had to do.

[@glenbrown3011]

Hate to say it, but Nascar is becoming a joke. Logano did NOT deserve to be in the championship four. He didn't even deserve to be in the round of eight. But somehow, a person who is 15th in points gets in and wins the championship. It's getting to the point t now where Nascar will start losing fans if this keeps going. Bring back the old Chase format. This playoff thing is just stupid.

[@busterbarlow9094]

Well no sport gives championships to those that deserve it. Only to those who go get it. Basically every sport is that way. There are NFL, NBA, NHL and others that had teams who "should" have won.

[@thefifthhour45]

@@busterbarlow9094 Well as far as I know, there are no other motorsports (specifically) series that have playoffs. Motorsports are different because all the competitors are in the same place on a given weekend.

[@busterbarlow9094]

@thefifthhour45 Yep NASCAR is the first. Therr is always a first. There was a time when the NFL didnt do things the way they do. The super bowl wasn't always a thing.

[@matpk]

@@thefifthhour45 PROJECT 2025 USA 🎉 1935 Germany THIS WAS AMERICA LAST FREE AND FAIR ELECTION FUTURE ELECTION WILL BE OLIGARCHY RUSSIAN STYLE AND GROCERY WILL GO WAY UP UNDER CHUMP

[@jaredchampagne2752]

NASCAR has lost fans for the past 15 years, it’s a shell of its former self. There’s no fans in the stands anymore.

[@OdoyleRules24]

Still don't like on track logano (mostly cause he beats my driver every week) but he can't be blamed for the format. Penske knows they only need to prepare for the 10 post season tracks and then a handful in the regular season to win and get locked in. They've successfully done this 3 years in a row. Kudos to them for committing to this strategy.

[@NASCARDAWGYT]

Yes, Logano deserves to be a multi time champion, but I hate how his championships have been tainted by the playoffs. I have to retroactively legitimize championships in this day and age.

[@Edward_prada]

in my head canon this makes up for his 2015 season. that one still haunts me

[@MrBertstare]

More controversial than Kenseth? He’s the reason they started all this

[@travispenney9630]

anyone remember the 2004 format that year when kurt busch had the wheel come off at homestead still won

[@mikepajewski2252]

I've been a fan of NASCAR for over 40 years. I agree, that the sport has evolved from the 60 race seasons prior to the Winston Cup era, the Chase era and the Playoff Era. It is important to keep in mind that the Champion is the guy who performed best that season. All of the eras have disadvantages. In 1985, Bill Elliott won 11 races, but did not win the championship. Benny Parsons won his championship without a win. Several seasons had the champion decided with 2 or 3 races left to race. I think one change should be that the regular season champion should earn a final four berth and the remaining three spots settled via the playoffs.

[@mikepajewski2252]

Correction... Benny won the second Bristol Race in 1973. Cale won 3 races and finished second.

[@Indyian]

You know some species will evolve traits that cause the species to die out right? Evolution isn't always a positive

[@romanusrecords]

Broad view. Finished with 4 wins. Second most in the series. If it wasn't logano I think people would complain less

[@rocksreviewsreactions337]

It is kind of weird that other than wins, Logano is worse in a few stats than Truex in his final season. Yes, Truex's season felt brutal to everyone cause he wasn't winning, but he has an average finish that is higher than Logano, he led more laps than Logano, in the old Chase format he is still higher than Logano, he has more stage wins than Logano, but yet Logano is still the champ. Congratulations to Joey though, he did everything in the right and beat the system. I don't hate him, just the format.

[@julianr.7186]

Exactly, hate the game, not the player.

[@tommyfitzgerald828]

Eric as always thank you for bringing us coverage all season long. I absolutely love the post race shows it’s my favorite way to digest a race and open up new perspectives of the sport. Thank you for another great season!!!

[@dannyalex7152]

Well... thank you Eric for your coverage this season! Looking forward to your favorite paint schemes of 2024 as well as driver grades...

[@redchihuahua417]

Congratulations to Joey Logano on championship #3, the 22 team, and the Penske Racing organization for 3 championships in a row!

[@GuacamoleMuckbang]

7:18 I disagree with you heavily on this. The reason that football, basketball, and any other sport look different now than they used to is only because of the athleticism seen now in comparison to then. The playoffs for those sports are the EXACT SAME as they’ve been nearly since their inception, and they have stood the test of time because they WORK. They’ve never been touched because they’ve never been broken, even if the two best teams didn’t put up an entertaining. Some championship games end in sweeps. Some end in nail biters. Either way, there’s no question that the two teams that make it are the best teams at that given year, even if the two teams themselves may not be close in performance. NASCAR, however, has changed their format for the sake of entertainment and it wasn’t necessary. Entertainment should not be the driving force behind how a champion is crowned. Ever. Performance has always been and should always be the factor that leads someone to a championship.

[@ojtoothpaste2240]

@GuacamoleMuckbang hes going to stick up for nascar because he's paid too. He's a paid Nascar dis info agent. He doesn't have 200k subs just off diecast kid stop motion vids.

[@xavquinlan481]

@@ojtoothpaste2240Nah, this ain’t it, I disagree with Eric here, but it’s not that deep.

[@GuacamoleMuckbang]

@@xavquinlan481 Yeah I don’t think he’s paid off. I’m not insinuating that in any way. Just giving my perspective and starting a conversation, but I don’t believe in the “nascar deep state” lol

[@josephkessler4603]

Congratulations to Joey! Not too many people can say they are a three time cup champion 🏆🏆🏆

[@ethanwhite5019]

What a season man... Thank you Eric for your dedication and hard work all year! You the 🐐

[@lukeramsey-un4hh]

If they change the format some it wouldn’t be bad like if they do these 3 things I think it would be good. 1.Do not reset the points after every round. 2. No more win and you’re in. 3.Let there be a 3 race round for the final four instead of just one race.

[@dageanhardy8929]

agreed

[@jonrobertson7801]

Let's add this to the problem. Phoenix Raceway worst track to hold the championship race.

[@Cape_Cod_Steve]

👍 👍 At least have some form of rotation . . .

[@jordanpolcari1384]

Crazy that people mock the playoff format like we don’t have a regular season champ that gets a trophy stop watching at that point the playoffs are amazing

[@jamessayre6230]

14th in points. 1st in playoffs. Is Joey Logano the rightful champion? Is this the right playoff format? Who knows? According to NASCAR, not the fans.

[@trevorhintz1290]

@@jamessayre6230 12th in points if you use the current format. Not much better though.

[@jamessayre6230]

Sorry. That’s my bad

[@trevorhintz1290]

@@jamessayre6230 I think he would be 14th if we used the old Winston cup points system.

[@rocksreviewsreactions337]

@@trevorhintz1290 So he's lower than Truex even though Truex didn't win this year? That's weird to think about. Truex is 10th.

[@robertparker6654]

The fans seem to like it, I didn't hear any boos, that's because the last three races have been slugfest, some very good racing, no follow the leader crap, the fans have been getting.a good show for the last 3 weeks at least, it was a good season.

[@iLikePlanez]

Favoritism. If Kyle Larson or Chase Elliot won all three since 2021, everybody would be happy. Nothing has to change. I’m fine if you dislike my favorite drivers.

[@mobmaniac]

I've always felt having a single winner-take-all race for the Championship when the other rounds all have 3 races each is dumb, but this one especially feels D U M B

[@CNC-Time-Lapse]

Worst format idea ever.

[@JasonHawkins-p5o]

Under this format Lagano theoretically could've won 9 of the playoff races and come in 2nd behind another playoff driver and lose the Championship. The winner take all is great for drama, story lines, whatever blah blah. But it's totally ridiculous.

[@tonyrock1983]

Heck, a driver could win the first 35 races and still lose the championship under the current format.

[@joeyager8479]

Winston changed everything starting in the 1972 season. They instituted a completely new points system that rewarded consistency and required drivers to attempt to compete in all races to be eligible. They reduced the schedule to 36 races from 48-68 races per season. They eliminated all the dirt tracks. And they made running for the championship worth far more money that previously. A lot of drivers and teams (#21 for one) only ran the 11-12 races per year that paid the most. They made the championship prize worth pursuing. So Eric is right that that the 10 3-time champions all competed with different points systems and the record books will just note their championships without any mention of the system in use at the time..

[@manleyfgc7981]

He won 5 races this year including the all-star race. 2nd most of any driver and won more races than anyone else when it mattered most. It is borderline braindead to say he is an undeserving champion just because others may have been better over a longer time period. The best team, the best car, and the best driver don't win every sunday. There is a difference between being the best and being deserving and people should be okay with deserving champions. Undeserving would be if Harrison Burton was the only nascar driver alive after a freak accident and won the championship. Someone that wins 5 races in a season is deserving. People can cope and cry all they want. He won the 2nd most races of any driver this season and won when it mattered on multiple occasions.

[@Not_a_Llama25]

We need a season long points format to decide champion, no more stage racing, and the final race back at homestead

[@MichaelTodd-b2q]

Joey is a well-deserved third time champion Several of the drivers currently competing with him newer drivers don’t have the experience and maturity and skill. They create a lot of undue adversity, and Joey handled it Eric, you can should’ve could’ve would’ve about the season all you want. It doesn’t change the facts. Joey Logano is the champion and I can’t wait for him to repeat.

[@trollpro30]

1:00 You say the format isn’t for everyone, like there a good chunk of people who like the current format. However, nearly every comment on social media regarding the result of the championship or the format has been negative. I hear from a lot of people that I admire in this industry, that it is good format, “it makes drama and good story lines”, but are you really going to put the integrity of the sport on the line for “good story lines”?! Its amazing how blind some of the media and nearly every NASCAR executive is right now. They dig the hole they are in deeper and deeper, but eventually there isn’t even a ladder long enough to climb out of that hole. We could be looking at the downfall of the sport if we don’t do something quick and something FAST.

[@NeedsLessWedge]

Roll a terd around in sugar. And it ain't a sugar cookie or a donut. It's a sugar-coated piece of $h**. No matter who does or or how it's done. Playoffs have sugar coated the terd that NASCAR had become over the last decade or so, and folks like Elton Sawyer are glad to serve it up as dessert. And some youngsters and ignorant noob fans are dumb enough to take a bite and eat it tastes good.😂

[@trippy7143]

Then go make then a tv deal so they can change do format if not then keep shush..

[@NeedsLessWedge]

@trippy7143 don't have to. FloRacing already fills that void with way better racing

[@charles4825]

Everybody had the same opportunity that Joey did. He worked the system the best. I'm not a fan of Joey's, but you got to give him props. He's in elete company being only the 10th driver to win 3 Championships.

[@Zoniax-zc7xh]

If Cindric didn’t spin at Nashville Logano is probably 20th in points at best. If Logano doesn’t win at Atlanta he might not make it out of the first round. If bowman’s ballast is more secured he’s out in the RO12. If blaney doesn’t push him at Vegas he probably doesnt make the final four. I dont say this against Logano, he played the format fair and square. But this should not ever happen. Ever. (Also rip to KBs streak)

[@jimbeck2693]

Theoretically all four contenders could crash out and the last one to crash would be champion. Playoff system SUCKS!

[@davidlevins7646]

Im done, i want a legit champion. Good luck nascar on your entertainment series, because this isnt a motor”sport” anymore.

[@painfullyaveragegamer]

He won the second most races in the series

[@williamsiebert9830]

See ya ✌️

[@ChipSaunders-go2bm]

410 sprint car and dirt super late model racing look that stuff up my guy. Heading into a golden era for dirt track racing as nascar fades

[@ChipSaunders-go2bm]

​@@painfullyaveragegamer14th place average finish.

[@painfullyaveragegamer]

@ but 2nd most wins. You would also be a rich man if you got money for every time he had a good car and got wrecked (best car at both Daytona races and spring talledega)

[@BarryJowers]

The second Joey Logano won the round of 8 opener I said that's it he just won the championship. I'm glad he did.