The Most Famous Bassist Who Couldn't Play Bass

[@dougfox6167]

I caught a quick glimpse of this notification and saw “bassist” and “couldn’t play”. Immediately knew it was Sid Vicious 😭

[@linnickschlanter4712]

And here i was thinking it was about Davie himself

[@alfredocruz]

Also thought it might be Nikki Sixx :-D

[@fortnitegamer-pp1eo]

@@alfredocruzme too

[@martinvo981]

You could say he was a bit... VICIOUS XXXXXDDDD (To Nancy Spungen)

[@wwiiinplastic4712]

99% of the time that is the correct answer.

[@TotoDG]

A bass video essay was about the last thing I would've put in my Davie504 bingo card, and now I want this to be a full recurring series!

[@TotoDG]

(Also not on my bingo card was Davie saying "Bollocks".)

[@CharlieRobe]

On point!!! I love that he keeps his channel fresh!

[@ethanprince356]

PLEASE DO THIS

[@RegebroRepairs]

yeeees

[@elliotlangford824]

SLAP LIKE NOW

[@soulfox619]

The irony. They criticised manufactured pop but Sid was just an image/presence.

[@shaneilellis9832]

Is it controversial to say like Kim Kardashian?

[@TwitterChannelOfficial]

​@@shaneilellis9832don't disrespect my queen 😠🔫

[@shaneilellis9832]

@@TwitterChannelOfficial queen where, she's not queen Elizabeth.

[@TwitterChannelOfficial]

@@shaneilellis9832 uargauggh 😠 👹🔥🔥😭😱😱🤯

[@axe-tq2wn]

@@TwitterChannelOfficial She’d only be a queen if plastic beach was a kingdom.

[@senshii0922]

We miss you Davie. Cool new style of video

[@TJG421]

Mans got a life to live with his family now. We miss him but I love that he's all-in for family.

[@Korbs_TV]

True

[@Korbs_TV]

​@TJG421 and also true

[@perempti]

True. Btw my like is 420th lol

[@Korbs_TV]

@@perempti hahaha I saw that!

[@MasterJack2]

What is crazy about Sid Vicious is almost everybody has heard the name yet the guy had like a 1 year career.

[@acidbath3226]

1 year mission before his contract was up

[@roryasrorri701]

Either you made it or you amde it count.

[@taker68]

almost 2 years if you count what he did after the SP until his death.

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

That's notariety for ya.

[@birdgod5584]

He might be more well-known than Johnny Rotten even

[@giovannibonadeo1466]

Love this new format, essay-like videos! I wish you'll keep doing this type of videos talking about other bassists!

[@LFR093]

He was also the very first drummer in Siouxsie and The Banshees, back in 1976.

[@mb-rc4zu]

Somehow they managed to unplug his drums in the live shows

[@michaelmarron8441]

@@mb-rc4zu S&TB took a very steep upward curve with the quality of drummers. Sid Vicious to Budgie,

[@kaleidoscopex7213]

I feel bad for Siouxsie wtf that’s horrid

[@JohnJones-n8p]

He couldn't hold a rhythm and the bottom beat playing bass so his drumming had to be laughable. But he did it Sid's waaaayy!!!!

[@Driessens_Peter]

before he was al smacked up

[@mason5137]

the essay format is a cool shake-up and I'd personally love to see more :)

[@claudioolate2516]

Same, this was really cool

[@Matteo_g-p2j]

Very cool

[@bassage13]

I love how you didn't attack him for not being a good musician. Just like you said, he didn't ask for the job, he was talked into it. He couldn't handle it and it wasn't his fault. They gave an addict fame and fortune. The outcome was obvious.

[@AACB_Empire]

Interesting fact. According to Johnny Rotten's autobiography, when Sid joined the band, he could learn fast and was not a bad bass player but his addictions ruined his skills.

[@albertgranell7335]

I mean, playing bass in a punk band is about as easy as playing in a band gets

[@piglos]

All he had to do was play root notes in time. That's all Steve did when he played bass on Bollocks. Truth is, Sid was just shit

[@martist911wasits-not-real4]

Matt Freeman has entered the chat...

[@KenjaTimu]

I find that hard to believe. Dave Mustaine could play guitar.

[@jeanmember]

Plenty of guitarists have been heroin fiends I think sid vicious just sucked 😂

[@mattt.964]

I've always felt bad for Sid. In his memoir, Johnny Rotten wrote about this time where he went to Sid's house for lunch and his mom was such a crazy junkie that he saw her putting drugs on his son's food. That kid's life was over the moment it started.

[@telanis9]

No junkie would waste their drugs on someone else's food. Johnny was an AH an constantly lying so I see no reason to believe him here, even if there's little doubt that Sid's mom royally messed him up.

[@didi5617]

​@@telanis9maybe she put it in so he would feel attached and not leave her. Like paranoid junky type stuff

[@King-Kazma]

@@telanis9 Junkies are dependent on more than just drugs. Anybody who might enable them is a target to be drawn into their web. Family members are prime targets, as there is already a bond. Add in an addiction and they will be helping obtain drugs for the both of you. Sid though was probably already bringing in scraps of cash and food, so she would have wanted him to be dependent on her too.

[@samanthafairweather9186]

@telanis9 His mum was one of"those" mum's. She couldn't bear to be parted from her "precious Simon" - even for a moment. She had that poor bastard hooked on heroin by the time he was 15 . And she admitted, on her deathbed, to purposely O.D-img him so that he wouldn't go to prison. She told it to the police that were involved in the investigation into his death, back in the U.K., and it was part of a sworn statement ( and recorded on video).

[@TheMegaGamingWizard]

​@@samanthafairweather9186 so this news to me...are you saying Sids mum done him in? That just breaks my soul...

[@peacefulzealot1179]

Love this! Do more! Consider longform and go deeper. I'd love to hear more about bassists who get no recognition

[@verone272]

I couldn’t agree more!!!

[@heightenedsenses9605]

Lemmy tried to teach him and said he was unteachable.

[@chrisseger2346]

If a guy like Lemmy can't get through to you, it's a lost cause.

[@Cloxxki]

Sounds like me on keys 😭

[@WaldorfStatler]

@@Cloxxki🥰

[@cnnhdlvth9557]

I heard a rumor that Sid was becoming a decent bassist when sober. Just not sure if those fourteen seconds are really worth rumoring about.

[@kevinedw2002]

Adam Ant also offered to teach him, but Sid physically attacked him. In retaliation, Adam chased after him armed with a hammer

[@why-is-this-handle--a-thing]

bass stories and trivia is never something i was expecting you to do davie. and im honestly all for it

[@florianfischer774]

I enjoyed your old videos and enjoyed this one, too. Very nice format. I am looking forward to see more...

[@jaketheman091]

This is definitely a refreshing change for you, Davie. At first, I thought you were simply going to do a 6-minute roast on the irony of Sid's inability to play bass in your signature tongue-in-cheek, deadpan style, but this video was genuinely informative and very well presented. Please do more of these! I feel a potential title for a series with this would be Bass Stories, where you can talk about the lives of famous bassists from around the world. Great job!

[@user-vv6qg6tx5x]

I agree with you!

[@vampedtone]

Agreed I enjoyed this video a lot!!

[@rackaid14]

They didn't fire Matlock for being mainstream.. They claimed to fire him for liking The Beatles and washing his feet too much. In reality, he quit because he was fed up with them.

[@PerFTNilsson]

I second that.

[@Illphaqup]

he HATED what Sid did with Sex Pistols. One of the very reasons I think he had enough of him.

[@brunorochagarcia]

"They claimed to fire him for liking The Beatles and washing his feet too much" what is, is some way, being mainstream

[@mikegraham4255]

They were friends actually. Sid didn't record any bass - he just played live...for less than a year.

[@juanmaxxl1]

Los Pistols se empezaron a meter en problemas especialmente después de esa actuación en el barco y Glen dejó el grupo porque no quería problemas con la ley

[@cobb_thedrummer]

Loved this style of video. Thanks for keeping it going Davie!

[@mykal4779]

wasn't expecting a video essay from you but it was a good watch, thank you

[@jkazos]

A Davie video with a serious tone is a wild experience. Didn't know he had it in him.

[@Gidonka1]

Amazing video, please make more bass stories!! Really love how you told this story, and the editing was perfect

[@SuPeRNinJaRed]

Davie504 doing a Dateline style vid was unexpected but really well done wtf

[@henryfreeman7748]

Sid unfortunately was another Rock and Roll tragedy sad but true 😔, the fact of the matter is that we're all only human born and make mistakes 😞 Jesus loves us all just the way we are, hold your head up ❤

[@Stonksandstonksagain]

Yeah I’m an adult that stumbled across Davie years ago but found the meme genre exhausted after a while. This is definitely worth the sticking around and engaging Thank you Davie504

[@_Executor_]

Wait what? I thought this was one of those channels, "What happened to Mr. Beast" or something like that.

[@FatherJoe--NLO]

Great video! Sid's story reminds me of original Beatles bassist Stu Suttcliffe, who also couldn't play but looked really good on stage, and also died young.

[@meekrob]

Although Sutcliffe did have some talent, as an artist.

[@meofnz2320]

@@FatherJoe--NLO It’s unreasonable to say he “couldn’t play”. Professional house bands don’t have people who can’t play their instrument. Probably more accurate to say he wasnt as talented or committed as the rest of the band…who were the Beatles after all!

[@redrick8900]

@@meofnz2320 No he literally couldn't play at all. He didn't know what a chord or a root was. He didn't know a scale. He didn't know how to get a sound. He was unplugged when they did shows.

[@redrick8900]

@@meofnz2320 Wrong.

[@meofnz2320]

@@redrick8900 Sorry my reply got deleted. My comment above relates to Stu Sutcliffe, who apparently was actually quite competent.

[@janniksiiger3367]

definite "yes, please" on more of this format

[@chrissmith2374]

I have been following your channel for years now and i absolutely love what you have done here. I think its important occasionally to look back at the history of the past greats who have defined our craft and the way you have done it here with Sid was top notch. Don't change what has worked for this channel for so long, but adding this to the mix is ingenious. Stay funky bro.

[@jerseycitysteve]

The year was 1978. In college, we were looking for a bassist. One guy really sucked. As a philosophy student, he gave us a lecture on the "myth of technique."

[@mahomet69]

I would like to hear this lecture :)

[@jerseycitysteve]

@@mahomet69 Jacques Derrida developed the philosophy of deconstruction which IMO is a lot of nonsense.

[@jacekj9943]

@@jerseycitysteve If I think all of that bs it's because they needed to proof that a bassist haven't need to know how to play behs is dragging me down ;)

[@Microtonal_Cats]

Same MO as Sid, but Sid would have called him a poser because he was a student, especially a philosophy student.

[@mikislives]

@@jerseycitysteve it actually makes a lot of sense if you dig into it. Derrida is not about chaos, but about understanding.

[@sixtiviris]

this was an awesome video ! well done! would love more videos like this!

[@NeonRadarMusic]

This was one of the best summaries of the Sex Pistols. For a band that had the image of being raw, they cared more about their image than the music. In many ways they were like a boy band (their manager put them together) except that they also happened to be possibly the most important punk band ever and did write an iconic album. MORE VIDEO ESSAYS DAVIE!

[@Hjudjehshshde]

Sounding raw and caring about your image are oposites now for some reason good to know

[@alonewanderer4697]

@@Hjudjehshshde Nope, the opposites in this case are caring about your image and having a good live bassist

[@mikeg3439]

I loved punk scene growing up in the 80's but I actually never respected or cared for them as a band.

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

Fantastic points. An iconic album that mosst people would struggle to name more than two songs from. Let's face it. They were important because basically they were so bad that people thought...We can do that! They are responsible for four of the most important British Bands and played "the gig that changed the world"

[@alexmorera1383]

jajajajaja all punk bands are image. And any punk band knows how to play an instrument

[@Iamnotafascist]

Sid vicious was basically just an actor that just got way into the role

[@isaiahgray3057]

The same can be said about Nikki Sixx. Dude was an entertainer, not a musician.

[@nickburmanmusic]

And yet, an actor who couldn't act! I think he just saw an opportunity, seemed like a good laugh, lots of money - how could he say no?

[@macks00w95]

well he really was his own character

[@TyphonBaalHammon]

Supposedly his mother introduced him to heroin. With a start like that in life, what can you do ?

[@klauswigsmith]

This is probably the best description of Sid Vicious ever.

[@darienhigh]

I'm digging the new direction with your videos, like this one. I think you should continue doing this.

[@DildoDaggins69]

It's easy enough to feel bad for Sid; but It's also worth remembering that Sid was a pretty horrible man, and regularly violent. He beat journalist Nick Kent in the head with a bicycle chain, in a premeditated attack, resulting in serious injuries. He threw a pint glass in a girl's face, the glass shattered and caused serious injuries. And he murdered his girlfriend. Perhaps instead of feeling bad for Sid, save those feelings for his victims?

[@Garem1K]

One of the first DEI hires 😮

[@punkoid76]

Nick Kent was not badly injured, the girl that got glass in her eye did not have it thrown in her face buy Sid, he threw it at the Damned on stage where it hit a pillar and shattered, resulting in that unfortunate accident. Also it is not proven that he murdered Nancy, many people (including the New York police) think it was a drug deal gone wrong.

[@jensenraylight8011]

yes, you can switch the "sid" with "darth" and it sounds just as natural, "Darth Vicious" idk, sounds like Darth Sidious's underling or something

[@ЯнТитаренко-м1з]

Nah, that’s boring

[@trelard]

To be fair, Nick Kent deserved it, thinking he was untouchable no matter what he wrote. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of consequence.

[@RAB6969]

surprised you would cover this, but i really liked this style of video. you are correct about Sid being just an image hire for the Pistols. what a lot of people don’t know is Sid actually made a real concerted effort to get better at bass. he really tried, and he got pretty ok at doing really basic bass lines. then he met Nancy and all the musical stuff just went out the window in favor of heroin. there are live bootleg recordings and even some on youtube of the Pistols playing in late ‘77 before thier ill fated US tour, and when you can hear his bass, Sid sounded perfectly ok for what the music was. the same is true of 2 or 3 shows in thier US tour which is no small feat when he was going through heroin withdrawals at the time. later he completely spiraled, but he wasn’t totally useless all the time. in the end Sid wasn’t good at bass but for the effort he put into learning, he did as well as he could and that’s fine. the lifestyle just chwed him up and spit him out. RIP Sid. o7

[@alfe5992]

Exactly this, Sid was perfectly capable of playing the vast majority of their songs live. The only song he's never done right is "Pretty Vacant", but for the most part he's playing the root notes fine for what a bassist should do.

[@zackjackson5562]

Imagine being in a big name band and you just know the absolute bare minimum of how to play your instrument? And going on stage in front of people. Had to be on heroin to handle that kind of stress.

[@alfe5992]

@@zackjackson5562 Exactly people don't know the deep end Sid was thrown in. Glen was out of the band officially by March (when all contracts were signed and made), and Sid was in between Februrary phase and had less than a month to learn the instrument and the songs before debuting his first gig.

[@channelforcommentingstuff4960]

not quite, he was pretty good as a musician in general, what was stopping him was exclusively his constant intake of drugs, Nancy's part on that was that she was a junkie herself and would push him harder into substance abuse.

[@Berfedkeld]

Nancy Spungen was his Yoko Ono?

[@coloreo666]

Absolutely loved this vid. You need to make a series of this.

[@bitwise7924]

I sold a friend a bass years ago. The output jack wiring was messed up and didn't work at all. When he called me and complained, I told him it was a Sid Vicious signature bass.

[@jerseycitysteve]

Excellent!!!😁😁

[@mikecox1974]

Wicked burn

[@diastleu274]

Sid would turn 67 this year, he died 46 year ago, holy shit

[@henryporter4859]

OMG, how time flies... He died 46 years ago... I'm old...

[@Uinb]

He joined the tragic 27 club

[@101Volts]

​@@Uinb No, Sid wasn't old enough, he died at 21; about 3 months and a week before what would have been his 22nd birthday.

[@samanthafairweather9186]

@Uinb how does a 21 year old join the 27 club? 🤦🏼

[@garethhawkins4710]

Born same day as me.....I'm still alive

[@matthewmorter7803]

I was surprised to see you doing this different video format, but I really liked it! You inject your brand of humor into it very well, while being serious when needed, it works!

[@MarkMagdamo]

Love this format! Definitely would like to see more!

[@RealityHasAWokeBias]

Davie, this video was fantastic. It would be awesome to see longer form content from you. This was incredibly well organized and your narration is immaculate! Love you buddy, stay funky

[@claudioolate2516]

I agree this style of videos is really cool. Could make a new series like this

[@huli777]

Nice experiment, bro. Keep it up! I gave it a like

[@samac4323]

If i remember correctly Lemmy (Motörhead) did try to teach Sid to play bass at one point.

[@drpibisback7680]

Story goes that Sid came to Lemmy and said something to the effect of "I'm playing bass in this band now, but I can't play a note," and Lemmy just replied "I know."

[@TotallyNotABotRightGuys]

I believe he gave up on Vicious entirely and just said that he would never learn bass. I guess Lemmy was right.

[@danielschmaderer]

⁠@@drpibisback7680what a VICIOUS response from Lemmy. Assuming this is what he said, I wouldn’t be surprised.

[@PhillipRaymondGoodman]

Lemmy was trying to teach him to play bass long before the joined the pistols. Thing is Lemmy, great as he was would probably the last person you'd want to teach someone to play bass, I mean he Basically played it like rthymn guitar.

[@BadAppleBlues]

I remember reading in an interview with Nancy & Sid she claimed that they asked Phil Lynott (RIP) to teach Sid bass and apparently he could play the bass faster than Phil.

[@cisforcat]

Great new format! Totally dig the vibe!

[@SatanSplainer]

Don’t forget that Sid was a horrible human being. He tortured animals and killed a woman.

[@feonor26]

Also Freddy Mercury faced off with him and physically kicked him out of the recording studio where both bands were recording in 1977. Roger Taylor, the drummer in Queen, said Sid Vicious was dumb as a rock which I believe.

[@louisd95714]

@@feonor26 Queen was a class act.

[@Tuna_Casperole]

When he was a kid he mutilated toys

[@7TrueSnake7]

@@feonor26 Freddie also called him Simon ferocious just to piss him off.

[@Polsnulspace]

@@7TrueSnake7 Brilliant! 😂

[@DanteBC]

This was a great little video essay, Davie. Would love to see more of stuff like this!

[@kevinmcqueenie7420]

"Sid Vicious", real name John Ritchie, was one of "The Four Johns", a group of friends that included John "Johnny Rotten" Lydon. It was Lydon who pushed for Sid to join the Pistols, and watching him break down about Sid's death in the "The Filth and the Fury" documentary is heartbreaking. (It seems to be available on KZbin and is well worth a watch). There is also a (probably false, but Sid himself claimed it) story that Sid invented the punk "pogo" dancing, as he would jump up and down in small, crowded gigs because he didn't have room to dance!

[@julioburlamaqui9895]

I love the new style of video! Keep 'em coming.

[@HardcoreZen]

I would be interested in hearing your opinion of other punk bass players, such as Dee Dee Ramone. Dee Dee could play, even if he wasn't a Jaco or John Entwistle. His style suited the Ramones' music. If he'd played more complicated parts, it wouldn't have fit. Sid Vicious wanted to play like Dee Dee, but even Dee Dee's style was too difficult for him.

[@Justin-hb6cg]

Sid was more worried about his hair than learning or playing bass.

[@singingelectric]

Yes! Dee wasn’t a virtuoso by any stretch but definitely had musical ability. He also wrote a fair amount of the Ramones’ songs, even after he left. CJ has said in interviews that after he replaced him it was really challenging to play with Dee Dee’s strict downpick-only style.

[@singingelectric]

@@HardcoreZen Also, Paul Del Bello is a KZbinr who does deep dives about famous bassists, his video on Dee Dee is great. Dude had chops.

[@mileswatkinson8135]

Nice to see some variety of format on the channel. Your sense of humor has always been appreciated, as well as your fantastic bass playing, but it's cool to see you just laying out some bass history in a straightforward way. I'll SLAP the like button on this one for sure.

[@breadsandwich336]

great video davie! i love this style of video i hope you profile more famous bassists

[@PhillipRaymondGoodman]

Sid was also the original drummer with Siouxie and the Banshee's, he was apparently ok at it. But it was just for that one gig where they played the lords prayer.

[@microwavedbattery792]

no waaaay i didnt know that

[@kristaskrastina2863]

That was the time the rest of the Banshees played (and maybe even sang) at his level xD Siouxsie Sioux herself later said that no one of them could play anything at their first gigs.

[@wohlhabendermanager]

Apparently he also was a pretty nice guy with a great sense of humour. But the drugs turned him into a completely different man. And Nancy wasn't good influence for him either.

[@channelforcommentingstuff4960]

he was a decent musician, his problem was his addiction and the fact he rarely could stand other ppl without taking a hit first. It's way more tragic than what davie has presented in his vid. But than again, it takes knowing some of the punk scene ppl personally to learn these details.

[@gordondafoe3516]

So Sid wasn't S & B's drummer, ever!

[@CalamityHillMusic]

As a pistols fan I cann tell you he was used to to sell an image. Malcom mclaren and Vivian westwood's image.

[@perryborn2777]

Nice video man, I didn't even realize it was your channel till I saw you

[@abhinavsaha8158]

Make another bass story on Metallica bassists Cliff Burton, Jason Newsted and Robert Trujilo. This was remarkably amazing and sensational.

[@Cannibalable]

Good video Davie. There's a story about Adam Ant - who began as a bassist - telling someone that he could give Sid bass lessons, by the time the offer reached Sid it'd become 'Adam says you're sh1t.' Sid reacted by looking for Adam and when he found him asleep on someone's floor, he started kicking him in the head. Adam didn't even wake up!

[@AkujinGG]

That's not how the story went on Ant's biography. Ant did wake up, grabbed a hammer and cornered Sid, bashing the hammer against the wall until he cried and pleaded for Ant not to hit him.

[@kevinedw2002]

​@AkujinGG Interestingly, Chris Hughes says that Adam did most of the bass work on the Kings of the Wild Frontier album, and came up with many of the key riffs

[@cassdoesntpass]

Really liked this video, bass related stories is definitely something I've been missing lol

[@C.SchitzPopinov]

Glen Matlock was the only bassist that mattered. I'm glad that I got to see the original line up live in 1996. A dream come true, along with being able to experience nirvana live👍🏼

[@stoopidvideoz]

It's actually incorrect when people say Sid couldn't play. He learnt quickly, he could have learnt to play well and there's some audio footage of him rehearsing that sounded pretty ok. but unfortunately it was the class A drugs that ruined him.

[@SKalapishev]

It's the B class friends that ruined him

[@7colliemac]

@@SKalapishevHis mother k1lled him.

[@giacomoneri1782]

It's actually incorrect when people say Sid was more about the style than the substance. In fact, he was an heavy substance user.

[@stoopidvideoz]

@giacomoneri1782 🤣

[@JAK0449]

great format!!please keep it up Davie it's fresh!

[@ShiroVK870]

I LOVE THE NEW FORMAT pls more BASS stories

[@kristofergobbe4838]

Tragic. Thanks for the story Dave.

[@leodoo852]

Love this type of videos, i want more for sure, keep it going brother ! 💀

[@shepzero167]

I like that Davie is talking in the whole video and entertaining us. And also he looks very stable thanks for the video davie! 👋

[@DumbAccount634]

best thumbnail ever

[@Opinionated_Stranger]

We appreciate the video essays from you Davie.

[@picklerick8785]

Now do one on an iconic bassist who could actually play and had one of the most unique and unmistakable styles ever, a man who could with justice be called one of the fathers of thrash metal- LEMMY. I want to know how he made the sound of Motorhead.

[@witherschat]

I like this format. But most importantly, do you, Davie?

[@mikestaff3042]

Hey nice vid. Not your usual comedy thing but definitely a good watch! Would love to see more like it

[@mdevil12]

Love it! Do a Jaco Bass story next!

[@rodeoruz]

He could play with basic and adequate ability for a fan to recognise what he was actually playing and without it sounding a mess. 1:14s that's "Belsen Was A Gas" and 2:15s there's some Ramones "I Don't Wanna Go Down To The Basement" for ya! He was no virtuoso super-musician showing off by playing flashy/elaborate runs on the fretboard, but he did the job. The trouble was he was often too out of it on drink and drugs. The fact some make out that he could not master a simple one to two string root note accompaniment is a myth! IMO the bass guitar played with no-frills-punk acceptable ability that's far away from Mark King or session musician standard is a vastly easier instrument to learn and play, because it requires far less skills. One finger-style playing (or two with a plectrum) only hitting two strings is far easier than mastering tricky open guitar chord shapes and changes, or learning to play the drums.

[@tonkurt719]

This was hella epic! More stuff like this would be highly appreciated! Keep up the good work Davie!

[@myndfields8539]

Malcom McLaren, man... Dude was a menace.

[@antihero8603]

Documentarian Davie is something I never expected, but never knew needed.

[@w.m.talonmay8486]

Loved this video. different and informative!

[@McFlyOrPie]

🎸A bass slapping mini documentary? I love it!🎸

[@allstarlord9110]

Paul Simonon was the real deal. He had both the image and the skills. He even wrote songs.

[@mateusbarboza1930]

the old bassist from pistols Glen Matlock pratically wrote Never Mind th Bollocks and was fired because he liked beatles

[@Gell1967]

Norman Watt Roy played on a few Clash songs, I met Glen Matlock when I was busking in London, couldn't remember his name so said Never Mind The Bollocks he laughed gave me some Filthy Lucre and walked on. Bruce Foxton, Steve Severin amongst others were top notch bass guitarists of the Punk/New Wave era.

[@forgottengrooves6073]

​@@Gell1967Bruce Thomas from Elvis Costello's Attractions is criminally slept-on.

[@Gell1967]

@@forgottengrooves6073 He plays on The Answer by Peter Bardens featuring Peter Green 1969, his playing is class just like with Elvis Costello

[@duane8829]

Sid wrote Belson was a gas.

[@gothfather1]

Excellent video essay Davide ! Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to the next one. Have a great day.

[@dirkymcdirkyface4851]

It wasn't a fraud and it wasn't even a scandal. Everyone knew. It was not an open secret. It was not a secret at all. The Pistols were a manufactured band put together by Malcolm McClaren and Vivienne Westwood who signed to EMI.

[@djgraish]

Yes, they even made a tune about it, the great rock n roll swindle 😁

[@meofnz2320]

And yet they were one of the greatest and most influential rock bands of all time.

[@redrick8900]

@@meofnz2320 Not even close to either of those things.

[@kman9884]

@@meofnz2320No lol. They were posers, mocked by any and all legitimate punk bands.

[@meofnz2320]

@@kman9884 Name any “legitimate punk band” and I’ll show you a band that were poseurs and mocked by every other “legitimate punk band”. We are still talking about the Pistols today because their music has stood the test of time.

[@yoseppich]

the style of this specific video is so fresh for davie504, more of this bro😻

[@Metal_Mastery]

Sid Vicious: proving that you don’t need to be good at bass, just good at being bass. 🎸😎 Legends never die... unless you’re Sid.

[@Mike__S]

The only other story that sounds close to this is the act that Corey Feldman is putting on

[@raziel17o1]

Cool video format, always fun to see when you experiment. Really good & entertaining summary

[@ChrisM541]

VERY well done Davie, more please! The SEX Pistols were all about 'the image', raw energy and sound. Of course, there were plenty loud, non-fans questioning the musical talent. Their impact and influence should be applauded.

One of the oldest Heavy Metal bands in Hungary, called Ossian, used to have a bass player named László Pálvölgyi with almost the same skills like poor Sid's. The tragicomic fact is that László is still playing in some other bands, after being fired from Ossian. He'd replaced Péter Kovács T. who was a really skilled bassist but had to join the army. Unfortunately he died young. Pálvölgyi was chosen for his youth and his long blonde hair...

[@GaborEID]

Pálvölgyi László

@@GaborEID , igaz, bocsi!

[@GaborEID]

semmi gond, legalább én is tanultam valamit, mert utánanéztem :)

@@GaborEID , szerencsére szerkeszthető a hozzászólás, módosítottam. Még egyszer köszi! Valahol van a neten vele (PZ) egy régi interjú, ahol elmond mindent, a szokásos kedves, de őszinte stílusában...

[@Lampey22]

Learning about this from you, the ultimate bass youtuber, is very trustworthy. I think you should do more “bass scandals” videos!!

[@klauswigsmith]

It's not that Sid *couldn't* play bass, 'cos let's face it...playing bass is the EASIEST job in a punk rock band...he just "wouldn't* play bass. It wasn't a priority for him. He was far too concerned with his image and heroin to be bothered with it. Rumour has it the day he got the gig, he sat down in an apartment with a bass and the first Ramones album and learned all the bass parts.

[@TheAtomicPunkLmao]

if you listen to any live recordings from sids last couple months with the pistols (winterlands a good example), he actually got to the point of being able to play reasonably competently. his bandmates have never really admitted he got beyond the point of utter incompetence, because it helps sustain their image.

[@KnuckleheadStuey]

He could sorta play, he just wasn't good at all.

[@mikegraham4255]

@@KnuckleheadStuey He could bash out all of the root notes. That's all that matters.

[@DiabolikalRA]

I had an album with songs sid recorded solo. He got better.

[@mikegraham4255]

@@DiabolikalRA ? After the Pistols, there's just the swindle stuff and a couple gigs from NYC. He wasn't playing bass on any of that.

[@DiabolikalRA]

@mikegraham4255 what about his cover of Sinatras my way ? And the short tour he did promoting it?

[@jerjey7686]

I really like this new format! Good to see refreshing contents on your channel

[@CravensBen]

Short video essays from Davie?? HELL yes

[@TheMimickid]

Being the most famous punk bass player ever without being able to play bass, is the most punk thing ever lol

[@iusedtomakefandubswheniwas3052]

Being a fkin market puppet is the opposite of being punk

[@SeanTheEvans]

@@iusedtomakefandubswheniwas3052 But punk has always just been marketing, just to a bunch of puppets who think "I'm different" because they dress how the "unique band" tells them to

[@TheMimickid]

@iusedtomakefandubswheniwas3052 kinda a naive take imo. Unless you think being a real punk means never being successful, all these mfs relied incredibly heavily on their image and general perception. Let's be frank, "punk" means 1000 different things to 1000 different people. It's an undefinable concept and is basically just post modernism for angry people who like cheap drugs, I say that with no disrespect lol

[@simonboros6156]

Its the most punk thing because he took a big part in shaping the aesthetic and attitude of punk

[@SeanTheEvans]

@@simonboros6156 nothing says "rebel" like adhering to a specific aesthetic that has been pushed by the management

[@thebaddestlarry9424]

I absolutely love this kind of video, very nice my dude.

[@Scotty_Russell_Music]

Don't hurt animals especially not cats. I used to think he was a funny character from pop culture until I read the story of him psychotically and spontaneously murdering a cat while visiting a friends flat. The story, and I'm paraphrasing, but he allegedly grabbed the cat by the throat in a choke hold and held it at arms length until it died. The story seems to have been corroborated several times so that's him in the bin.

[@havenmanlunas4409]

he also murdered his girlfriend

[@gui18bif]

He killed a person brother

[@creatureslim]

He's a less sleazy gg allen

[@yikemoo]

Brother.... HE STABBED HIS GIRLFRIEND!

[@P1Volvo850R]

@@havenmanlunas4409 fans will say "but he didnt remember it" brotha who gives a flying fadoodle cake

[@thumperpaul]

I heard that the whole band couldn’t play their instruments. Johnny Rotten couldn’t sing for shit either, the entire line up was just a punk image.

[@ronj9448]

Johnny never really could carry a tune. Just yell a bit. And that was ok even in PIL. But if he said he was a singer I'd laugh. Good screamer.

[@rihards5067]

Davie, I loved this. The chill commentary type of vid is not what I know you for, but enjoyed it alot

[@IberianInteractive]

well it's incredible how many "Sid Vicious" we have today on stages....

[@davidsellers3639]

🎯💯mostly addicts probably

[@Transcona]

Bassist but 2 steps ahead

[@tonygoodwinjr9293]

That was some refreshing content. I liked what you did there. It'd be cool to hear more

[@straydawg2035]

"You don't have to know how to play to be in a punk band, you just have to be a punk." -Cheech Marin

[@BingoLumpkin-u4v]

He’s right. It wasn’t just Sid who sucked, the whole band sucked. They got famous off of a fad.

[@forgottengrooves6073]

Alice Bowie!

[@guitarist2463]

@@BingoLumpkin-u4v Steve Jones is an alright guitarist, he can play solos decently well and is a fantastic rhythm player.

[@StringedGuitar17]

Therapist: Davie504 video essays aren't real, they can't hurt you Davie504 video essay:

[@strangerjoe6766]

Do they hurt???

[@merlinoner]

Super video Davie. Love this kind of content.

[@allinory]

Davie help, i know this is not on topic, but maybe you can help, what's going on with twoset 😭😭

[@nuthinnew]

Simon Ferocious