The MOST Humiliating Military Defeats

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Throughout history, there have been countless examples of larger, more powerful forces dominating the enemy with overwhelming force.
Sometimes, however, the tables are turned, and the smaller force wins a spectacular victory, when on paper, they should have lost. Here are a few examples of seemingly weaker militaries punching far above their weight class.
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How did you make the comment 7 hrs ago when the video was posted 20 minutes ago?

[@SeahawkGaming-xp7bl]

Corrections: 1. Hannibal fought the Roman Republic, not the empire. 2. Hannibal's war elephants didn't had the howdah platforms on their backs. They weren't even the large Asian elephants as shown but instead the now extinct African Pygmy elephants.

[@demetriusmccray1574]

Hannibal’s war elephants didn’t have*

[@miroslavantonin9354]

+ reason why elephants were not used in Cannae is that elephants were already dead ... i think they died after battle of Tremasine lake

[@blueberry1vom1t]

@@miroslavantonin9354Does anyone else think Hannibal would've been better off just leaving the elephants home? Realistically they didn't do anything during the campaign.

[@SeahawkGaming-xp7bl]

@@blueberry1vom1t Yes, elephants are the worst mount in open fields, the reason why they were used in India and Southeast Asia for so long is because these places are heavily forested and were even more forested back then. The elephants have a terrain advantage over cavalry in forests.

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[@-_J_-]

*_"SCOREBOARD, SCOREBOARD"_* _-Undefeated Vietnamese_

[@legitusername-zl7to]

blud bout to end up on a VTV facebook report

[@Baconcatboy]

Except the millions of others that were killed

[@Newdivide]

Vietnam undefeated!

[@thelonewolf777]

@@Baconcatboy u mean millions of civilians like women and children ?

[@user-kk5nq3yx2v]

​@@thelonewolf777 Vietnam undefeated 😂😂

[@Newdivide]

The French base in Dien Bien Phu was located in a valley. Although it seemed impossible for the Viet Minh to use artillery as the French knew it was very difficult to bring heavy artillery up the terrain, that didn't stop them from bringing them up

[@bryanbundik]

"....Never underestimate your enemy ...."

[@Newdivide]

@@bryanbundik yep

[@DrakeKarson]

Patriotism at its finest.

[@thirstyserpent1079]

they went to extreme lengths to disassemble a large amount of standard artillery and move it into the area but on top of that I think it was confirmed they had somehow moved multiple Katyusha's into the mountains surrounding the fort so it would be subjected to rocket artillery as well.

[@WangMingGe]

They also dug tunnels /manmade cave-type shelters into the valley walls to protect the guns from French air support or counter-battery fire, all purely by hand labour. Very impressive.

[@Realitycheckm8]

"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Dwight D Eisenhower

[@mystic37]

that was an Eisenhower quote

[@Thelaughingboy214]

@@mystic37 actually it was a deez nuts quote

[@MangoMan206]

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[@hi_lol1912]

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[@aidan1R]

That wasnt an eisenhower quote. Eisenhower paraphrased, the original acyually appears in The Book Of The Royal Blue, from Arthur G Lewis, who wrote it in his section Stub Ends Of Thought

[@The_United_States_Of_America76]

This is why forests and sheer ingenuity along with willpower are the most dangerous things on a battlefield

[@actualnotsorightguy3]

And the guerrilla tactics

[@actualnotsorightguy3]

And the liberal media in the US with hippie culture

[@actualnotsorightguy3]

And the Democrats-majority in Congress

[@actualnotsorightguy3]

And the infamous Henry Kissinger

[@actualnotsorightguy3]

And the huge support from China, USSR. Cuba and North Korea

[@Interdictiondeltawing]

This took “size don’t matter” to a whole new level😭

[@neofulcrum5013]

You just gotta make due and use your other skills lol

[@numer1number4hater]

Search up "Hussite wars" bro 💀🙏

[@MrZeh617]

It's not the size of the 🔨 it's the nail you're throwing it at ! Lol 🍺😎

[@bahlulmia]

f India

[@pokiiuwu8624]

A disputed fact in the China-Vietnam war is the use of chemical weapons by the PLA, contaminating the water of Mekong river flowing into northern Vietnam (which is called Hong river), the region being most affected is the border where most of the fighting occurred. My father was once an operator of a counter-battery radar in the war. He said there were already rumors at that time about the contaminated water source at that time but only until now, the consequences has became much more noticeable. Numerous veterans coming back from the war has suffered various health issues and cancer. Two out of seven of my father’s friends (who was all veterans from the Sino-Vietnamese war) have had cancer, one has just died yesterday and my parents went to his funeral. And for anyone who said those cancer is just natural causes, there is no such coincidence that more than half of my father’s platoon have now developed cancer.

[@TheCanadianCommunist]

Well the U.S did worse leaving 800,000 pounds of unexploded bombs and using the chemical agent orange which cause a increase chance of bladder infection. (Am sorry for your loss)

[@daivn]

noooo Mekong River and Hong River are two different rivers, they do not have any connection.

[@pokiiuwu8624]

@@daivn they all started in the same upstream my dude, check the map

[@daivn]

@@pokiiuwu8624 man, I've checked the map, it's really different, see: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Mekong_river_basin.png

[@haider5044]

Wth that's actually crazy !! You have more details on this ?

[@hgsoundwave6743]

As a New Zealander, i want to thank you for including the battle of Gate Pa. I remember learning about the New Zealand wars during school but i never learned of this battle. Thank you.

[@corvidcorax]

I had to learn about Gate Pa in primary since I used to live next to it.

[@marksmank5967]

You forgot about the Mongols, Vietnam is also one of the few countries that survived from a Mongol invasion in the 13th century.

[@KhmerShadow]

All of Southeast Asia resisted them and won their battles but eventually paid tribute to leave them alone

[@skypher7936]

Not just Vietnam, but also other few countries like Japan and Indonesia (the latter being Majapahit at the time)

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

@@skypher7936 majapahit was founded right *after* the mongol invasion.

[@skypher7936]

@@rizkyadiyanto7922 Read the history again. Majapahit was formed even before Mongols set foot, and had defeated the Malay Kingdom before. They defeat the rival Kediri Kingdom thanks to the Mongols. Only after the Kediri defeated that the Majapahit turned against the Mongols, expelled them from Indonesia.

[@winlaxmunkhbat2216]

2nd and the 3rd Mongol Invasions were composed of Southern Chinese troops. Hard to call it a Mongol Army.

[@AJKam1kaz3]

While it was a short segment, I'm glad you've covered the Sino-Vietnamese War (Third Indochina War). My uncle (as a kid) and his family fled Vietnam not because the end of the Vietnam but before the Sino-Vietnamese War as there was already mistrust of people who are half Chinese half Vietnamese.

[@bowtieguy5281]

The Indian commander who defended his position against overwhelming odds should be awarded the Param Vir Chakra, India's highest military decoration.

[@Raul_Menendez]

India no talent.

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He passed away in 2018 at the age of 77.

[@JoeRogansForehead]

Best I can do is 3.50 phone calls about PlayStation gift cards

[@TatteKaBaal]

I am not sure about the awards. But this is the most notoriously famous tale of Indian Army's bravery in India. There is also a very famous movie named "Border" about it.

[@rudragaming6977]

​@@JoeRogansForeheadyou really think you did something great. 😂😂

[@user-kr7yh8vw9m]

Thanks for providing us with this interesting video Simple History. As a history buff you have my most sincere gratitude, well done. That's a very terrifying thumbnail that also makes a clever Return of the Jedi reference with the vietcong using the skulls of his enemies as improvised drums similarly to the Ewoks who did the same with the Stormtrooper helmets.

[@Thebulldogschannel648-7]

The Kokoda track is a good one the Australian milta had ww1 weapons with low supplies fighting the Japanese and they slowed down and beat the Japanese becoming the first army to do so in the war

[@Lwis]

20 years later was the Battle of Long Tan where Australian and New Zealand forces stopped a larger force of Vietcong.

[@enriqueperezarce5485]

I don’t think the Australians were the first army to defeat the Japanese in battle, I think that goes to the Americans in June, and the Australians lost the first engagement, nevertheless still impressive against the odds

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This vid really gave a whole new look on history keep making videos

[@kiwigaming1605]

Thanks for mentioning the Maori at Gate Pa! Great work!

[@chriskane1]

Kia ora! 😉

[@ish11234]

thank you so much for mentioning the battle of Longewala ❤️❤️

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Next video idea: The 5 Sullivan Brothers

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I like that

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Great idea😉!

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You should do more videos about military equipment

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such as the Bob Semple tank

[@C.A._Old]

*Mustafa Kemal Atatürk has the most beautiful saying: War is won not with numbers, but with intelligence. With his wisdom, he achieved victory in Anatolia by surrounding the Greek army of 200,000 people. and in the war of independence.*

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One of your best video ever made

[@2dhistory197]

americans: we didn't lose we just successfully evacuated

[@aridicaexmontaudon1296]

I wonder if the nva ever thanked walter kronkite for saving them?😊

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Excuses Excuses. Don't forget Jane Fonda and the Hippies. 🎉​@@aridicaexmontaudon1296

[@AlphaJnx]

"I merely Failed TO WIN"

[@aridicaexmontaudon1296]

@@AlphaJnx or as rambo says, someone didn't let them win.

[@LongHoang-lk9mv]

​@@aridicaexmontaudon1296 we appreciated and thanks him but that is just one of the reason for american withdrawal i think

[@Caady]

Not even mentioning the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest? One of the must humiliating defeats for the Roman Empire..

[@enriqueperezarce5485]

Not really an impossible against the odds, they (Germanic peoples) had almost every advantage leading up to it

[@Caady]

@@enriqueperezarce5485 Yeah thats true but the video is about humiliating military defeats and this battle was one of it

[@neofulcrum5013]

I can’t help but admire guerrilla warfare. When implemented correctly, an asymmetrical force can shift the tide against a larger conventional army. Course there is a line to draw with certain attacks that can devolve into outright extremism as typically the guerrilla needs the support of the populace to thrive. “The conventional army wins if it doesn’t lose. The guerrilla loses if it does not win”- Henry Kissinger You guys should cover the history of guerrilla warfare/guerrilla tactics on the channel one day.

[@MichaelGibbons-uk2mc]

Just the opposite, I think.

[@jiaweichew3370]

Ironically this type of warfare is heavily used by insurgents and terrorists today as well as those with numerically or technologically inferior. If you can’t decisively engage an enemy then you can’t DESTROY the enemy.

[@derekm424]

Guerilla warfare can be traced way way way back to the piks and Germanic hordes against Rome to probably before that.

[@FutaCatto2]

The problem was, the treaty of not being able to use nukes or doing mass bombings of city areas.

[@probableanfanofdoomfucking9542]

@@FutaCatto2 yeah but the problem Vietnam is protected by the USSR. If the US dares to lay a single finger on nuclear weapons, you know the results right? WW3

[@anxiousbottle]

vietnam war would be a great underdog story for holywood if it wasnt for the fact that america were the villans

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

north vietnam was supported by soviet and china, so not really an underdog.

[@anxiousbottle]

@@rizkyadiyanto7922 svn was supported by america and america put troops while vietnas allies didnt

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@@anxiousbottledont forget sk australia and thailand

[@a.0311]

Yea it was honestly a really stupid war

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@@anxiousbottlepro commi… sucking at life is an option kiddo

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There's enough material for this topic to make a series of videos!! Please do so!!

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[@user-yy9hk9od9u]

China being beaten by Vietnam in 1979 is the most humiliating and lose face war.

[@Vietnam_Gigachad]

With you guy can see it took 1 or 2 year but in fact it took over 10year from 79 to 89 "someplace it took to 93" to end the war while chinese suffering most of men but they achieve their goals is damaged Vietnam economic so danm hard that they took a while to recover

[@LaVodangvada25tuoi]

And Chinese still claim that: Chinese won that war, and Vietnamese still claim: Vietnamese won that war ( I’m as a neutral side)

[@bobbieshin6574]

This is pretty good to run in the background

[@richardsawyer5428]

Whilst it wasn't technically a defeat, the lessons taught to the British by the Boers lead to the pre WW1 Army Reforms; new, more practical uniforms and webbing, improved rifles, more marksmanship training (more than most other nations of the time.) We also found out that large numbers of the British population were too malnourished for military service, hence The School Meals Act. One good, free meal a day ready for turning kids into soldiers should the need arise. I'm of the age where I still benefitted from that law (although I've never been to war.)

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Thanks for sharing!

[@KLA611]

You should do a video about the Fall of Singapore

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I like how it's set up like a classroom...You should do this "Talking to the class" shtick more often :D

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Another amazing video. Love from Nigeria 🎉.

[@rtyrsson]

Just a small detail: The animation of the Carthaginians marching through the Alps, the Carthaginians are all carrying their falcatas backward with the blades facing themselves. Just a tiny nerd detail. It was an excuse to leave a comment. I always look forward to a new video. Keep up the great work and thank you very much!

[@gmn9365]

A Sino-Vietnamese war myth: Vietnamese Ethnic people near border cooked dead Chinese soldier bone for bone glue and homemade medicine then sell back to Chinese people. These thing got really high price and sell very fast. At the south between Cambodia and Vietnamese: Some soldier got amount of M72 LAW some doesnt have fuse trigger or failed (idk how to tell these condition sr) , they made the "Mini-Katyusha" by solder them with one trigger. At night when Cambodian troops pushin, they fire the Mini-Katyusha at the troops only once time but scared Cambodian troops raid their point.

[@Sniperm0n]

Hannibals victory is the definition of fortune favors the bold.

[@usernametakentrysusernamet6486]

Great vid

[@peterhowe547]

Thanks for noticing Aotearoa/ New Zealand!!!!

[@Hinduismtrinity09]

Indian Military awards - Vir Chakra - For showing outstanding bravery in Battle Mahavir Chakra - For Showing Exemplary bravery in Battle Param Vir Chakra - For Showing legendary acts of bravery in Battle, it is often given posthumously too.

[@Spetsnaz690]

Don't forget Sena medal which falls below vir chakra.

[@vladsiminica2801]

Next video idea : Battle of Vienna ( 1683 ) - The battle who decimated the expansion of the Ottoman Empire

[@brunozeigerts6379]

I believe that the Viet Cong were the inspiration for the Ewoks in ROJ. One thing I read about, but haven't been able to verify, was that the VC had a large cave. Every time B-52's flew over the cave, it resonated, alerting the VC further down the line. Also, I'd heard that the VC fought the NVA after the war, since they didn't share the same goals.

[@vuvu9750]

Nah Vietcong were mostly destroyed after the Tet Offensive in 1968 . They were intergrated into the PLA after 1968. After the war maybe some VC leader dont agree with some policy but not enough to lead to war

[@Harikejn]

Additional thing I might add: During the World War One there were the victories of Allied, that occurred on Balkan peninsula. It was the battle on mountain Cer, and on river Kolubara. These two battles also happened at the beginning in 1914. And Austro -Hungarian empire suffered defeats there. And I heard that tactics is also studied at some other military academies around the world (you can correct me if I made a mistake).

[@tristansolso1920]

In my opinion, Vietnam was more of a political defeat more than a military defeat

[@shinygoldenpotion1587]

Vietnam: Gets the south to win with the help of the americans North Vietnam: sike

[@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378]

​@@shinygoldenpotion1587 > Leaves out Vietnam American intervention wouldn't last until 10 years.

[@user-td2jw9ze2c]

Same can be said about Germany in Russia, they dominated militarily, but the poor decisions of their leader made the operation fail, but still failed, "we didn't lose militarily but lost politically" can be applied to ANY army and occupation force, not just the US.

[@Casmaniac]

War is just the ultimate form of diplomacy, therefore politics, same same

[@tristansolso1920]

@@Casmaniac not really, the US won every battle in Vietnam, the problem was getting the Vietnamese to like democracy

[@corymorimacori1059]

Napoleon Dynamite: Welcome to the Battle of Waterloo part 2! Theodore Roosevelt: Let’s face it, you’re not all that great. You tossed away lives in Gallipoli like they were scraps off your plate! You should be ashamed of your military honor! Ivan the Terrible: Ohhh, what a humiliating defeat! Ik when will ma beat, so of course take a seeeat!

[@destic7767]

It's another great day! Its's another great victory, and no one can defeat me! WHAT ABOUT ME POMPEY! 🎵🎼

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​@@destic7767maaaacedonians prussians and Romans, those aren't worthy opponents

[@systemical1]

epic rap battles of history

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I really like the new animated narrating thing it's really cool

[@moostafa3624]

Awesome work, as always

[@anandasankarchakraborty9965]

As an Indian, I can say there was another battle fought in 1965 Indo-Pak war -- battle of Asal Uttar, which is known for being the largest one sided tank victory since the battle of Kursk WW2. Indian army faced a vastly superior Pakistani tank force of 200+ strength comprising of US made Patton tank and Shermans. Indians laid out a careful ambush and decimated Pakistanis , who lost 150+ tanks while Indian loss was around 20 tanks. The strategy is taught in the military academies around the world. The battle site filled with corpses of Pakistani Patton tanks was renamed as "Patton Nagar" (Patton city).

[@xscorpion8834]

NICE JOKE 5 fighters in 1 minute 😂 And As a Afghani PAKISTAN KICK USSR AND USA FROM Afghanistan 10:50

[@KurianfromIndia]

Afghan Pakistani? It's Afghan rebels not Pakistani in Afghan. Also we all see what happened to Afghan immigrants who came to Pakistan.

[@amnaibrahim1]

Chawinda🤫

[@Rudraksh-ql4ce]

​@@amnaibrahim1 chawinda was a stalemate , not a defeat

[@amnaibrahim1]

@@KurianfromIndia he means as an afghan,pakistan kicked out ussr and usa from afghanistan

[@Finlandball39]

Hello Simple History! I have a huge passion for history, and your channel introduced me to it YEARS ago. ❤ Have you ever considered doing alt history? It’d be a very interesting project you could do lots of. Maybe for April fools you could do a history “What If?” I would love to see something like that in your animation style.

[@jacobwiles547]

Interesting stuff!

[@vladimirgluten32]

I like the new segment where he breaks down what he just talked about and its significance and importance

[@aleksandarvil5718]

9:00 ; 12:50 Hamilcar Barca: _(crying)_ "I'm sorry son, i've just never been so proud." r/OverSimplified

[@NeoPsychosis-zg2ki]

there's another humiliating defeat at 2002, the pentagon's ambitious 'Millennium Challenge 2002' which the technologically advanced blue force was defeated by 'inferior' red force led by Lt. Col. Paul Van Riper

[@not_theone8196]

What a great video

[@cate01a]

appreciate this more dense format, and the summary at the end of the chapters, but man I hate the exhaling

[@user-iz2tq3dx5d]

There is no more humiliating defeat then the Toyota war

[@aaronbecker5617]

The lesson is if you want to defeat a determined enemy you cant leave a single person alive...most people dont want to go to this point

[@user-xk8kl1ce9h]

thank you

[@thembanimdlalose5229]

Was hoping to see the battle of blood river on this list

[@allantaylor1693]

awesome man

[@Frankthetank-et7wo]

Vietnam, where the US K/d was between 10:1 and 20:1 but the vietnamese are allegedly better fighters.

[@masonpyle5929]

The US never lost a battle

[@Casmaniac]

Yes that's the difference between tactics and strategy, you can win all the battles and still lose the war. Long term goals, doctrine and realism. Three things the US was sorely missing in the "Vietnam conflict" (read as: illegal war)

[@hieuphanthanh5959]

​smartest american historic*@@masonpyle5929

[@SocuteRaptor]

Maybe you've never played Dota, where you can lose all combat but still win by using "Rat doto" strategy.

[@thetrungvu6791]

@@masonpyle5929 your idea is like only American soldiers were fighting this war, the K/d ratio for your info: the VC lost around 900k soldiers, many of them were children and women just so you know, and THE OTHER SIDE which includes the Republic of Vietnam Armed Forces, which also the main force of this war, lost around 300k. The total dead of RVNAF and US and South Korean and bla bla is nearly 400k, so its not 20:1, much like 2:1 even with massive firepower, 3 times amount of bombs compared to WW2, and millions ton of agent orange, not talking about much better military training condition. How you not call this a defeat to the US ?

[@brunozeigerts6379]

Suggestions for a part 2. Finland vs Russia. Spion Kop(Boer War) Italian vs Greek in WWII. Italy invades Greece, Greeks beat them and push back into Italy.

[@kordvoitles]

The fritz kligenberg one was funny af lol

[@saintjacques8137]

Not sure it's the right niche but if anyone's interested in hardcore in-depth Art of War content I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series

[@damnedLegion40K]

No Siege of Jadotville?

[@JustinAndrews74]

As a Vietnamese-American I'm glad to see more quality videos about the Indochina War(s) (plural). Kudos!

[@zali13]

If I recall correctly, the Maoris at Gate Pa used 12 gauge double barrel stage coach shotguns, which were devastating in the short range trench fighting.

[@leostormrage8201]

Great video for 70 year celeb of Điện Biên Phủ battle. Love this channel

[@AJKam1kaz3]

Wished they expanded it more but it was good to give people idea how it later lead to the Second Indochina War (aka The Vietnam War).

[@mrsecuroserv8292]

I got an example of this: the Yom Kippur war. When 2 Arab country collation attempted to invade Israel in 1973 and failed.

[@f-15estrikeeagle35]

And 2/3 of the IDF was on leave lmao

[@Will-od8rc]

What about the battle of Prestonpans? It lasted less than 30 minutes and resulted in General Sir John Cope not only having his force routed but also becoming the first general in the history of Europe to bring news of his own defeat.

[@ToyoTheBear]

Shocking you did add nobunaga oda into this video

[@BKuiAi73vn]

1:07 bro why this scene, a green pithhelmet guy, only in 1964s - 2000s 1:43 actually is 3 vietminh troops planting their flag over the captured French headquarters at Dien Bien Phu.

[@explosioncatsandknives7747]

3 times the Mongols comes 3 times they failed to conquer Viet Nam. Albeit was a very challenging defense but we won anyway hehe :3

[@Xboxzilla]

2:30 Nice Pulgasari reference!

[@SAMARTHSAMANT]

Regarding longewala - Yes most casualities were done by indian airforce only .... What chandpuri and his men could take credit is to halt the enemy ... Enemy cmd himself acknowledged that nearly 5 hrs were wasted in attacking an outpost at longewala.

[@legirondin2077]

Anyone who knows more than the surface "pop history" about the Vietnam War knows that it was by far the American soldiers stacking enemy skulls rather than the North Vietnamese. The US took 47,000 combat casualties over nearly 20 years of war. How many casualties did the North Vietnamese take during this time? 1.1 Million.

[@Justin-pe9cl]

Is that just the US or South Vietnam as well.

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

Vietnam took more losses but they still won.

[@legirondin2077]

@@Justin-pe9cl 47,000 accounts for just the US forces. South Vietnam took an additional 313,000 casualties, most of which happened near the ending years of the war where the US was winding down involvement. Still a significant minority to 1.1 million.

[@Justin-pe9cl]

@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger They won because the South didn’t want to invade the north for fear of the Chinese. It’s a shame because Ho Chi Mhin was a fan of the US and could have been an ally.

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

And it was precisely that obsession with "enemy casualty numbers" that lost us the war in the first place.

[@Brandon-ig9hc]

They captured lieutenant dan hes a pow

[@spacebubble608]

Plz make video on battle of chawinda

[@rogersheddy6414]

I have a rifle that was probably carried by someone either. Steering the indian pakistani war of nineteen seventy one, at least carried by a soldier who was still serving in the indian army at that time. Its a 1967 short magazine. Lee and field model two a one made in nineteen sixty seven. Yes, That is right. Almost 3 decades after the United States army adapted a semi-automatic rifle for its main gun. The East Indians were still using the short magazine. Lee enfield bolt action rifle. But it's pretty cool because I have a bayonet for it too

[@dwang552]

North Vietnam had the backing from China and USSR. China provided AAA guns and AK-47. USSR provided Sams missiles. Chinese army even sent 300k soldiers to help North Vietnam.

[@lot2196]

The disgusting leftist media helped the communist in Vietnam. I hate them.

[@mrkennady]

And the Americans STILL farmed them for xp.

[@ImBeingHeldHostagePlsHelp]

North still won, boo hoo, also, a win is a win, like if Ukraine wins against Russia, people may criticize Ukraine for needing aid, but A WIN IS A WIN.

[@jacoblee8922]

US weren't allowed to bomb the north for 90% of the war. No army can win with restrictions. North went all out, and kept their land.

[@legirondin2077]

And still they failed in nearly every operation where they met US forces. 47,000 Americans died in combat over 20 years of war. Sounds like a lot, yeah? (It is). So ask how many the North Vietnamese took? 1.1 million dead. Even Tet, which apparently "won" them the war, was a strategic failure on a military level. They were repelled by Americans at every turn, ending the "offensive." The impact they had militarily was a mere thorn in the US military's side. It was in the end public perception within the US that "won" North Vietnam the war, by getting US citizens to whine about the continued conflict that they were still winning on an operational level, forcing a withdraw of America's boys from the war. Subsequently. our allies failed themselves in defending themselves against the attack from the North.

[@BadVoodo0]

I don't think Vietnam was embarrassing, they fought well and hard. Desert storm was embarrassing, Iraq barely fought back.

[@rionpost7435]

It WAS embarrassing it’s ALWAYS embarrassing for a great and well trained conventional military force to lose to a bunch of evil/corrupted communist rice pickers with no air support(and I don’t call them rice pickers out of malice or prejudice I say that because that’s what they did, they were farmers of rice and sugar and stuff like that)

[@wdcain1]

Saddam, their friggin' commander, didn't issue a single order during the operation.

[@berggermx]

I don't know that they could. My dad was deployed there and he was on the flight line as a jet engine mechanic. He said they bombed them into the stone age for a month before they started the ground invasion. He said the planes were going in and out nonstop

[@legirondin2077]

@@rionpost7435 Well, if you're talking about the "great and well trained conventional military force," it never lost to a bunch of rice pickers. The Vietnamese lost every operation they ever launched, and the rice pickers died in quantities rivaling their own harvest. 47,000 Americans died in combat, while a staggering 1.1 million North Vietnamese kicked it during the nearly 20 year conflict. The war was only ever lost because US media showed footage of the war that seemed to contradict the government's rhetoric. Even the footage they did show, which turned public opinion, was of a failed Vietnamese operation (Tet).

[@RazorsharpLT]

@@berggermxThat's desert storm. Operation Iraqi freedom had much less preemptive bombardment.

[@Palkia8842]

Belgrade mentioned *Air Conflicts: Secret Wars flashbacks*

[@coolguy2830]

This guy talking to me straight is pretty cool, makes the video a bit more calm

[@leehyun6513]

Wow, you really are spot on with the Vietnam conflicts here, since I'm Vietnamese myself.

[@robmclaughjr]

Hannibal was outta elephants after the Alps

[@larrykingjr3494]

And still had them running 😂

[@gamerstheater1187]

He had one, his own Asian elephant

[@robertsarorn6273]

I like that Star Wars reference in the thumbnail.

[@Josh-eu1vr]

dont forget naval battles: the notorious Admiral Yi

[@rowansyoutubechannel7895]

No one ever learned in Vietnam, the locals were able to use the same strategies over and over while continuously improving them. Yes they suffered waaay more casualties, but it was also their home so of course many more people were willing to pick a rifle and fight for their home

[@Sultan_Abdulrahman807]

I think the Worse Failed Military Is a Gallipoli Though because the British With their Navy Got Defeated by Ottoman Cannons

[@richardsawyer5428]

That defeat plus the failure of the Dieppe raid could be seen to mould the thinking behind Operation Overlord.

[@olivierpuyou3621]

It is difficult to compare the Indochina War and the Vietnam War. 1946 France was still clearing the ruins of WW2, civilians were still eating with ration cards. France was never able to send more than 50,000 men at the same time and with the completely exhausted machines that had all the campaigns of WW2. On the American side we are talking about the richest country in the world which had at the height of the Vietnam War more than three million men, tanks, aircraft carriers, jet planes and the best logistical support for all armies of all time confused. However, they lasted less long than the French “tramps”.

[@Bird_with_gun]

Can you do a video on the Hollywood shootout 1996

[@commanderdarkness573]

Where's the "successful" US involvement in Afghanistan?

[@Justin-pe9cl]

The unsuccessful part was trying to turn that shithole into a modern country.

[@tristansolso1920]

Too recent to be considered history

[@Justin-pe9cl]

The loss was trying to turn Afghanistan into a modern country. Taliban waited for the US to leave then acted like they pushed the US out.

[@Justin-pe9cl]

Apparently KZbin doesn’t like me calling it what it actually is.

[@mrbisshie]

Give it a few years.

[@allstuffofwonder8580]

Another one: battle of red cliffs, three kingdoms dynasty in ancient China. Liu bei and sun ce led an army of 50k to defeat Cao cao(200k men) at red cliffs to prevent him advancing farther into Han. This battle occurred on the river, and cao cao’s boats were connected, so one of liu bei’s generals sent a fake surrender letter to the other army, agreeing to bring ships. HOWEVER, the ships were all filled with flammable dry grass (all the ships back then were made of wood), and when the ships were close enough, they were set one fire, and because cao cao’s ships were CONNECTED, even if one ship set alight, all the others should too.

[@toshiro8932]

What about the 1000 Filipinos fighting against 40000 Chinese during the Korean War.

[@nakitaluckysibih5581]

Just like The Rebel alliance have a war against the Galactic Empire in Star Wars😂

[@aleksandarvil5718]

Don't forget Battle for Naboo, BOTH in space and city ( **The Phantom Menace** )

[@ItyourboyWilson728]

YES

[@poppomatic]

Winter war should have been featured here, the greatest example from ww2

[@Andrew08893]

Dang