The Most IMPORTANT Thing That DETERMINES Our Health | Dr. Ellen Langer x Rich Roll

Dr. Ellen Langer joins Rich to discuss how you can harness mindfulness to take control of your health. To read more about Dr. Langer and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll813
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:20 Novel Studies and Unconventional Psychology
00:03:36 Influence of Smell on Eating Behavior
00:06:47 Mind-Body Unity and Psychology in Health
00:13:28 The Illusion of Control and Power of Belief
00:14:33 Mindlessness and Mindfulness
00:19:48 Mindfulness and Science
00:20:31 The Impact of Beliefs on Physical Manifestations
00:21:16 Empowerment through Agency and Control
00:22:38 The Power of Language and Communication
00:23:23 Understanding the Concept of Remission and Cure
00:25:41 Attention to Symptom Variability and Mindfulness
00:32:21 Sponsor Break
00:33:27 The Illusion of Control and Transcending Judgments
00:40:10 Abundance Mindset vs. Scarcity Mindset
00:41:25 The Scarcity Mindset
00:43:47 Embracing Uncertainty
00:46:03 Making Decisions
00:46:55 Regret and Subjective Labels
00:48:44 Mindfulness and Outcomes
00:55:25 Counterclockwise Study
00:57:16 Perception of Aging
01:00:25 The Bucket List
01:02:51 Influence of Perceived Time on Health
01:04:52 Mindfulness and Fatigue
01:08:00 Reframing Daily Activities - Chambermaid Study
01:12:24 Power of Belief and Placebo Effect - Eyesight Studies
01:18:02 Defensive Pessimism
01:20:28 The Contagiousness of Mindfulness
01:23:07 Influence of Mindfulness in Autism
01:25:05 Alcoholism and Mindfulness
01:27:59 Mindfulness and Energy Force
01:34:58 Evolution of Consciousness and Mindfulness
01:36:50 Reimagining Hospitals and Education
01:40:41 The Mindful School
01:41:49 Future of Langer's class
01:45:01 Closing Thoughts
01:45:47 Credits
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[@Alphaterra999]

how tf he commented before the video was posted 😂

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[@monicagaudion8553]

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[@sointeresting3938]

I'd love to come in with you and discuss too, but without the cameras, for I'm camera shy.

[@julesopals53]

The world has changed so much. My education was poor, I lived on a council estate and went to poor schools. And yet I can sit here and listen to Dr Ellen, a professor of Harvard who turns the world into something new. Profound. Thank you Rich and Dr Ellen for being in the world at this time. Here’s to a time when there will be no vertical line and everyone will recognise that no one is better than anyone else.

[@vivianrose6805]

Brilliant comment! There are downsides to the Internet but the material available from great minds is a true advantage.

[@skyepalmer5719]

​@@vivianrose6805thats why i use it only as an educational tool.😊

[@iwnunn7999]

Your education may have been poor but you're a terrific writer.

[@ultratrailrunnr]

You’re the first to know there are no better. So keep lifting up everyone ❤

[@billkaiana7441]

The more intelligent da person the more humble n relatable that person is...!!+😮😮😮

[@1sanremy]

In 2022, my humble ass lost 99% of his material belongings in a huge house fire ! Even my cat was burnt....Well...i survived and now i am a happy minimalist gratefull toward God. Peace & love

[@Mtnshell56]

Good for you. That is empowering. Thank you

[@aliciam6725]

You didn’t think it was god did you?

[@chrism5433]

Jeez .big change there. Nice one

[@laurab9867]

Something similar happened to me, only that it wasn't a fire but a flood. Sometimes I miss my lifestyle a little bit but not the material things. Being a minimalist made me stronger, more grateful to the universe and self-aware.

[@user-yy6zm1hz9o]

My house burnt in fire in 2010. It was the best thing that happened to me. I didn't think that at the time. It's like all the bad things burnt with it. I saw that there were many good people that cared about me, I moved forward and found a high paying job, and the best I appreciate the small things every day. Lucky to be alive 💪

[@susanyoder8831]

When I began my healthcare career as 13 yr old “candy striper, ” patients’ beds on 2nd Main were 2 to a room, 5 in the sunroom, 6 in the “ward,” and only 1 private room. We filled disposable ice water pitchers, delivered meal trays, fed those who could not manage self feeding, picked up meal trays. Beginning at 8pm, we gave nightly back rubs. Patients visited with one another. The hospital food service made soups, salads, and casseroles on site, not from a freezer or box. After college, I worked at that hospital for 25 years. When we needed a pleasant focal point for patients to look at while they had blood drawn, we simply asked Frank Simek, the CEO, and he had a forest mural installed across the entire wall. I retired last fall, but if Dr. Langer builds a mindful hospital and or school, I am onboard in whatever way I can be useful.

[@monicaramirez51015]

Yes 😊yes 😊absolutely beautiful to read your journey into the healthcare industry 😊unfortunately today as a licensed nurse assistant at age 56 I feel deep inside as if I’m from another world 🌎 at work. Also a 20 year holistic health licensed massage therapist ❤I have deep yearnings to add more to the bedside than what I see happening 😮I believe WE ARE MOVING INTO THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND SOME OF US WILL BE LUCKY ENOUGH TO TAKE PART IN CO-CREATING THIS NEW PARADIGM 😊PARADISE ❤

[@melliecrann-gaoth4789]

@@monicaramirez51015best wishes to you in your work

[@sister1828]

How I wish those days were still hear!! Thank you for being there and actually helping people. Don't see that at all these days, Lucky to get a pitcher of cold water!! God saw you, and Blesa you ❤

[@indranidasgupta8982]

What a hospital!! What is its name?!

[@shandlarichardson3407]

Where I do CT Scans, they used to have the most gorgeous floral butterfly lights to gaze up on. It was so soothing. I never had a negative CT Scan. They just changed out all those lights when new company bought the hospital and put in generic medicinal looking lights. Gazing upwards while in CT Scans is no longer pleasurable. I've had nothing but negative results from imaging since. I'm going to have to close my eyes and think like it used to be to have same results

[@barbaramelady110]

I remember my sweet Grandmother always was saying stress is a first step to being sick!

[@laurakosch]

I was raised to be negative and stressed and pessimistic as though these attitudes were protective against the disappointments and pain in life. Because events usually roll out better than my worried self expected, I am often “pleasantly surprised” by my failed expectations of disaster. It’s such a deep habit. And a bad habit - I am just learning now how to be stress free and enjoy every moment - I want to keep reprogramming myself to live with joyful expectation.

[@meemabuver]

I can sooo relate to this.

[@angelawilliamson6765]

Me too, there is very reinforcing a positive belief system all around us in our society's is based around fear, selfishness and scarcity. This makes it harder to change but not impossible.

[@claireoconor7986]

YES!!! THIS IS HOW I WAS RAISED AS AN IRISH CATHOLIC.😢

[@elisabethsteiner751]

And this ist how I was raised as an Austrian Catholic in the 1960s

[@yvonnelashford2969]

Same here - life is meant to be hard etc. I immediately jump to pessimistic thoughts when something challenging happens. I would dearly love to not be this way.

[@dalala9323]

I am a female sociologist from Saudi Arabia. I am into the American School of Classical Thoughts and Dr. Langer is a school of thought itself. Highly appreciated your time to host Dr. Langer for such a discussion. Very pleasant personality and intelligent lady with a big imagination in social research. I look forward to seeing other episodes with Dr. Langer. She's an inspiration and an adorable one❤

[@Richard-cd2gx]

is it an online school?

[@aldeebsaad]

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[@vicsoyars3675]

Thank you for opening my mind to a new way to think amazing loke having a new pair glasses

[@iwnunn7999]

Dr Ellen is very likeable. I would imagine all of her students are forever positively changed having had her as a professor.

[@sergnio]

I love the content, but I feel like the opposite. She doesn’t even let Rick get in a full sentence before just interrupting.

[@lilmissjoodypoody]

@@sergnioas someone with ADHD, I wonder if she has ADHD. It tracks with the enormous amount of creativity and energy that she has, and the high intelligence, out of the box thinking. But one thing we struggle a lot with is to not interrupt others and to remember to give people a chance to speak too. Because our minds are filled with hundreds of times more content and random ideas that we get so much pleasure from sharing that it’s hard to keep it all contained. I’d have LOVED to have her as a teacher. Absolute inspiration.

[@sergnio]

@@lilmissjoodypoody well explained! thank you for helping me better understand what might be going on

[@malcolmlarri8236]

Deepak Chopra back in the early 90's quoted her in his book Ageless Body Timeless Mind and it changed my life - youth is mindset

[@TantricYogiHuntsman]

Youth is mindset.. Match and SET! FOR THE WIIN

[@1TimothyFourTen]

I just love the way she thinks for the most part. I listen to her and it's like someone just filled my lungs with fresh clean air.

[@frankjamesbonarrigo7162]

As a former cook in restaurants, it’s true, working around a lot of food you lose your appetite. It’s a visual thing

[@notgunnadoit7461]

when I was a grill master it didn't lessen my appetite for waitresses! Lots of great memories as a young man.

[@makaylahollywood3677]

Overnight, i was able to look at a loss- and, now see it differently because of this talk. It took me 15 years. I've found the piece of a puzzle i needed to move forward. This woman is remarkable, brilliant. My mother commanded, "you better have fun!" before she died. She lived to be 86, ten kids and looked amazing..

[@l.o.3904]

I love this conversation. Fundamental to our health and wellbeing. She is lovely to listen to - even if she never lets Rich finish a sentence ;-)

[@Len1977gt]

lol

[@stanronn]

Rich is notorious for interrupting his guests, I say lovingly, it was nice to see him get a taste of his own medicine. To be clear, I love the Rich Roll podcast. Just sometimes he can be a bit quicker to make his point than his guest.

[@partdaffey]

Too bad they can’t be heard and clearly understood simultaneously. Every word they speak is priceless to those who have ears. ❤

[@skippy6462]

I actually want to hear everything she's got to say so I'm glad she makes sure she finishes.

[@kitchenfarmacist4281]

lol indeed.

[@peacefulisland67]

Amazing! As a recovered alcoholic, I became curious several years ago about why I no longer craved alcohol and hadn't since a short stint in rehab. So many people with "time" talk about sudden or lingering cravings and I began to ask myself if I was just not paying attention to my body's signals early enough. It started with simply imagining taking a stiff drink and being fully conscious, by memory, of how that tasted and felt, not unlike the way Buddhism suggests practicing mindfulness to stop bad habits. Afterward and since, I found I had no craving and the reliving of sensation did not trigger me. It had the opposite effect. Certainty that I still did not want a drink. Not quite repulsion (aggressive, rejecting) but clarity. So reassuring and such a gift of trust in the body.

[@gridspir]

Thank you for sharing this. I’m going to try it!

[@rubyj7647]

this worked for me for quitting smoking -- letting myself fully imagine smoking the cigarette actually gave me relief and abated the cravings

[@christineperera2393]

Wow wonderful testimonies. Just interested to know if God had anything to do with it ?

[@melliecrann-gaoth4789]

Saturday morning- I’m going to have an Icecream bar with chocolate and almonds for breakfast. Now I want to get up! Happy morning people

[@kvk1]

Her energy is infectious. Great conversation, thank you both.

[@aliciam6725]

Had he not interrupted her.

[@rusty_rockets]

It's a podcast conversation not a lecture.​@@aliciam6725

[@joanowens7941]

Wow. she's a fireball. Ordering her book right now. You did a great job, Rich. Dr. Langer is so passionate about her work she could barely slow down to let you ask a question. Keeping up with her must have been exhausting.

[@woboznz]

He kept interrupting her I thought

[@trishf2184]

He talked over her, very often

[@trishf2184]

​@woboznz yep, heard it too. Watch his body language. He wanted her to know how "smart" he was. Cringe worthy today. 😊

[@zengletree]

Yes, I imagine it might be better to read her, than listen to her. I wanted more time to think about the things she was saying. But like you say, she is very passionate about her work, hence her excited speaking style.

[@lilmissjoodypoody]

This is a good reflection of when I let myself go full ADHD when talking to someone without ADHD. It’s seriously like an excited puppy trying to interact with a turtle. (Not saying Rich is slow, and I think he was so enthralled with what she was sharing that he was probably holding back and enjoying just taking a lot of it in.) When I do this with someone else with ADHD, then it’s like two fireballs doing a random but somehow synchronised dance, and we can carry on multiple streams of conversation topics at the same time and keep up with the random tangents our mind takes us. When I do this with my no or less ADHD partner, he gets completely dumbfounded then experiences a human version of blue screening 😆

[@mamalovesthebeach437]

I’m 2/3 through Dr. Ellen’s book and I’m loving it! I’m in my 69th year and have a high level of energy like Ellen which can exhaust people. 😆 I was raised to believe what my mom used to call “mind over matter“. When my son was little he asked me if Santa Claus was real… his friends teased him because he believed. I asked him “what do you want to believe?” He said “that Santa is real.” I told him, “ then for you he is.” He’s 27 and still loves Christmas. Ellen’s story about tracking drinking works great for smoking. Rate and track every cigarette you smoke and you’ll find you enjoy fewer than you think. There is a woman that lives in a board and care home with my 85-year-old stepdad. She has dementia but she’s lovely, expressive and never stops talking. I get a sense that she knows what she wants to say but struggles with remembering how to put together words to make a cohesive thought. We call it dementia and we believe we know what is going on in these peoples’ brains. What if were wrong? I have so many personal stories like Ellens about the Harvard club experience. Things like that happen to me continuously. I no longer question it. I accept it as the possibility that everyone can experience the same thing. Thank you Rich for this fascinating conversation!

[@patrickburke5453]

Monday morning February 12 6:12 a.m. est waking’ up to Rich Roll - New Podcast episode. It’s gonna be a good day.

[@pierresbaptiste]

Her ideas are infectious. I feel her work should be everywhere for people to ,at least discuss, see the world a little bit brighter. I got lot of comfort listening to many of her ideas because it confirms a lot of mine. Knowing that I am not totally off or crazy.

[@stopPlannedObsolescence]

She salivating a lot

[@mrs.cooleysclassroom2830]

Oh my goodness, legend!! I was lucky enough to have dinner with Dr. Langer once when my husband was studying at Harvard. Thank you for bringing her on, Rich!

[@kellyturner4571]

That must have been a wonderful experience!

[@iwnunn7999]

So funny.... I was just thinking how I'd love to have dinner with this delightful woman.

[@peacefulisland67]

Ok, I'm having way too much fun watching this... As a cashier in a fairly large grocery during covid, I began to play with my attitude toward certain people. Relaxing or leaning in more with those I found irritating or downright maddening. Of course my days were much more pleasant but also I never did pick up or rather show symptoms of the virus. Once we took down the plexiglass barriers from most areas, I finally got it. Initially I thought this was just more evidence that it's an air borne virus but now, even though I wasn't particularly consciously worried by it my subconscious mental landscape and attitude may have had other ideas. Being concerned or stressed over a longer than needed time will confuse and divert the immune system, using up energy on thoughts which are not real anyway, instead of on regulating and protecting the physical. Love this over breakfast. 🙏

[@kalonicamcquesten692]

Me too. Remember how the world applauded us because we showed up for work? I truly believe that the positivity of being there at the counter and smiling and leaning in did contribute to some sense of normalcy and helped the health and wellbeing of my community.

[@castle_moat]

What she said about decisions really hit me and gave me comfort.

[@PacoBear]

Yay, Rich!!! Ellen Langer is a treasure, and more people need to hear her. Plus, she's just an adorable and darling person!!!

[@musicnotes4755]

Wonderful interview! Dr. Langer is not only brilliant, but she is so down to earth and approachable you can't help but love her!

[@808hikino]

Lots of wisdom! New perspectives for me. First time I hear an interview podcast with non-stop talking. No pauses, no breaks with silence for absorption. Thank goodness we can hit the pause and rewind buttons to stop for assimilation. She's a strong intellectual. I appreciate she shared as much information as possible in the time given so that we can have various new perspectives as possible. ❤🙏🏽

[@gabrielclagett5914]

Heeeeey we need more of her for sure. Thanks For having her Rich

[@mary_syl]

Wage slavery, the daily grind is the number one enemy of mindfulness. The entire system we live in is wired and dependent on keeping us mindless. Scarcity is a lie but it's artificially maintained by the same system.

[@Lesanacom]

An amazing conversation. Just loved her take on life and her ability to enthuse. Not enough folk like her and with the same eloquence, get to talk to the world. I started listening and thought immediately about how long she would be available to us, a great time slot, I was sorry to say farewell to this lady. She honestly made me want to stand up and find a tune for her little ditty at the end and to sing it out loud. 🎉To have her as a granny would be like winning the lottery. Thank you.

[@lynne3989]

She has plenty of other videos, interviews. Just put her name in search bar- right here on KZbin. I only discovered in 2023, What a breath of the freshest air!!! ❤

[@Lesanacom]

@@lynne3989 Thank you for this response. I shall certainly explore what is available. It is exciting to find someone new and as vibrant in her point of view. Exuberance and insight like hers uncommon and I look forward to listening further. 👣🌸👣

[@user-wj5tp5hc5t]

Amazing, and I love that she confirmed it’s ok to not have a “ bucket list”. My bucket list happens when it’s knocking,

[@FEEBO2025]

I read Counter Clockwise years ago and it changed my life. Ellen is a gift to humanity. Thanks Rich!

[@AkA-sw7rl]

I was hoping that Rich will invite her! She is a rare original thinker I am so looking forward to this!

[@nappydo1]

Solid! Luv you Rich and Dr. Langer is the bomb! She left me with a huge smile on my face! Thank you!

[@jenniferdouglas-craig1095]

Great episode!!! I cannot wait for her to come back!

[@thebower8027]

Proof to me how powerful the mind is, whenever I see someone smoking a cigarette on tv, suddenly I can smell the cigarette smoke and it actually starts to burn in my nose. This amazes me every time! What the heck?! I am currently dealing with spine and back pain problems and the pain clinic doctor says it's arthritic. He also told me that anxiety, stress, and fear exacerbates the pain. The pain is unbearable at times and I am reduced to tears because often I am unable to sleep in a bed and wonder what is to become of me. I try to take in what the doctor said and other information stating that the body adjusts itself and when I really think on it and try to infuse it into my being in the whole mindfulness thing, I actually start to get snippets of feeling better. Then I wonder, "Did that just happen?" I'm trying to move forward with a sense of hopefulness because otherwise my mind goes to a very dark place and I do not want to live in this body anymore. A rollercoaster of emotions on a daily basis. These teachings inspire hope because hope is all I have.

[@toiletrollholder]

In case it helps, Sandra Rolus has a guided meditation that covers the whole body in about 2 hours. You are sort of repairing it or visualising it as working properly. Also Marisa Peer has a video taking a vortex of energy through the body. They also have meditations to clear trauma in case you have any trapped in your body. These really help me and they are free on YT. Might be worth a try. Best wishes.

[@thebower8027]

@@toiletrollholder Thank you for the suggestions. I'll check them out.

[@MelodyProsser]

It's encouraging to hear someone speak who thinks like me. Thank youf or that!

[@sidilicious11]

I was thinking that too!

[@gacammann1]

EVERYTHING is frequency and it's ALL connected. Great interview. Thank you!

[@mariellebraz]

Her energy is contagious 👏🙌👏🙌🙌🙌

[@talesfromrosie852]

The timing of this conversation is super serendipitous for me!❤

[@K2blades2]

"As long as you have a rich present you do not need the mementos from your past" YES! Thank you!! I have always felt that way, but couldn't put it as eloquent!

[@natashapetrovsky2935]

The interviewee and the interviewer are perfect, smart, sharp, intelligent - what a treat! Merci beaucoup! Nicely spent evening I had!

[@megyoung7947]

I have always wanted school like the one you described!!! I was called a 'gifted' child and often offended the teacher by completing my work and being 'bored'. I actually experimanted to see what noise (coughing, dropping a paper) would affect my neighbors. 8 yo...When I got to college, a new world opened up...my prfs allowed meto reach thesky. That was the beginning of a new confidence in myself....still developing at eighty. Thanks for listening!

[@eternalsunshine2458]

Really enjoyed this one Rich! Thank you for introducing Dr. Langer. She says everything I've always believed! Good to know I'm not alone :)

[@aliciam6725]

Chronic pain sufferer here. Every time she mentioned tuning into something you know, my pain flared. I was convinced I had no control over the pain. Have been hating doctors who won’t treat it.

[@debraking286]

Im sorry I don't understand what you are saying but I want too... could you please clarify what you mean? Thankyou 🙏

[@kalonicamcquesten692]

I’ve been trying to be attuned to the mind body connection with my pain.

[@katkafandli5140]

You are the best Rich to have Dr. Langer on your podcast! I read all of her books, she is truly incredible. Thank you so much for this!

[@emmaleadbetter869]

Im so excited to learn about this women and all the studies she has done so interesting ❤

[@peggytoy]

Listened on my morning walk today - and chuckled and smiled thoughout. Loved you both!

[@kimandari2750]

Mind body connection ... our mind is so powerful ... I hear her speak and i get goosebumps ... LOVE HER !!!!!!

[@myrahogan3110]

This came at just the right time. Thanks to both of you!❤

[@thinkplanetearth2946]

I really enjoyed this conversation Rich. I had never heard of her. I will definitely pick up her book. Such an interesting mind and way to look at things. Her energy is infectious. The part of the conversation where she talked about not being able to make predictions about outcomes was particularly enlightening. I liked when she said, "rather than waste your time being stressed over making the right decision, make the decision right, randomly choose." The serendipity of my coming across this conversation at a time where I'm experiencing major life changes and have been having self doubt is not lost on me.

[@kelseyloushin1343]

WOW! Rich, you really have a talent for bringing us what we need. She's fabulous! Thank you.

[@nancymelamed4772]

I also do not have a bucket list, maybe now I understand why. This interview has given me so much to think about.

[@gabrielamaja9672]

Absolutely love this woman!! And of course, Rich! Great conversation!

[@RONAKAWEED]

Ok Rich I had a smile from ear to ear listening to her. She's infectious.. I loved it. Hahahaha.

[@amydavis5174]

This is one of my all time favorite episodes, Rich. I bought Dr. Langer's book as soon as I finished listening and I will most definitely be integrating her mindful approach into my daily practices. I felt like her work and attitudes dovetail beautifully with Lisa Feldman Barrett's work on the theory of constructed emotions and experiences, along with the sage wisdom of Robert Greene. I became an instant fan of Dr. Langer and could listen to her over and over. Great conversation -- huge impact.

[@Anonymous.User.0419]

She is amazing. Thanks, Rich, for having her.

[@ludwinadautovic]

OMG! I love this woman. I'll be following her intently. Thank you Rich for leading such a great conversation.

[@kimberlysauber5601]

Love Dr. Ellen!!! I hope we all start to realize even one thing she said, we’ll be a better society. Thank you

[@averiemaddox6493]

I WANT to have coffee with Ellen! Such a neat lady!

[@SR2858]

She is so smart and lovely 😊 In fact you can see her thinking process is much faster than actual wording of things....

[@ninabanks7596]

Mindful hospital ❤️❤️❤️ I’m waiting seriously 😊

[@kathleensullivan3926]

What an amazing interview Rich. Thank you.

[@partdaffey]

Rich Roll, Thank God for you and Ellen Langer. 1:42

[@debrasmith5377]

Thank you for this podcast. I am humbled and I have a lot to be mindful about. I still do not want to sky dive at sixty nine 😅 but I would like to go snow tubing wish me luck!

[@madhumathiperumal1576]

I have to say, this is a life changing video. It's hard to not see the passion of Dr. Ellen and the studies conducted by her and the crazy findings. Just mind-blowing. Wow...I can't stop thinking about the things discussed here. Amazing. Thank you for the video.

[@MsMizz1]

Her energy, interruptions and corrections had me intrigued about her astrology!! Smthg about her spunk had me leaning towards air & fire but the more I listened her youthfulness and confidence gave me Aries and Aries she is!!! Loved this episode thanks Rich & Dr. Langer ❤

[@Bachconcertos]

I had Ellens mindset mostbof my life until i experienced serious age discrimination in the job market at age 48 which made me financially destitute. I survived it but it took eveything out of me and left me with ptsd and anxiety and crippling fear.

[@ehendriks3328]

You might want to dive deep into Relational Frame Theory and ACT. Yes, this is about the power of language. Bring Dr. Steven Hayes or Dr. Mattieu Villatte on your show! It will all fall into place.

[@jenniferv]

Would love to hear/see Dr. Hayes on here!

[@bjreed1251]

Great podcast! Thank Rich and Dr. Ellen Langer!

[@dominika2330]

Thank you! That's exactly what I needed today ❤

[@jenniferdouglas-craig1095]

Thank you so much, both of you!

[@JL-gj1pr]

such an incredible woman, incredible podcast, incredible convo, wishing everyone to be aware of all and every infinite possibility, every second.

[@meganhopkins1497]

I always say this, but my favorite guest so far!

[@solsyslerietjnsson4700]

A great delight!! Thank you so much 😊 And hurray, for the shared approach of ‘everything is possible - I can’t say what is or is not!’. I find that to be the approach our future needs 💗🙏

[@dameanvil]

00:02 🧠 Most deterioration is due to mindlessness, waking up to mindfulness can drastically alter life. 00:29 🔄 Mental attitude can reverse aging effects, challenging perceived limits. 02:03 🍕 Imagining eating food can impact weight loss, suggesting a potential weight control strategy. 03:27 🍫 Overdosing on smell of food might help in eating less, suggesting a novel approach to weight management. 05:33 ⏳ Stress levels may predict cancer progression, highlighting the mind-body connection in health. 07:09 🧘‍♀ Pancreas-related personal stories underscore the mind-body unity, challenging traditional medical perspectives. 09:42 🚑 Western medicine still struggles to embrace mindfulness despite its proven benefits. 11:05 🤧 Belief can influence physical health outcomes, as seen in the colds and flu study. 15:39 🤯 Mindlessness is pervasive and contributes to various personal, interpersonal, and global issues. 18:06 🧮 One's perception of certainty (e.g., 1 + 1 = 2) is often challenged by context, highlighting the fallibility of absolute knowledge. 20:12 🩺 Medical prognoses should be understood as probabilities, not certainties, emphasizing the need for mindfulness in healthcare decisions. 20:40 🧠 Embracing mindfulness can empower individuals facing chronic illnesses by challenging the perception of uncontrollability and fostering a sense of agency. 23:04 🩺 Language used in medical contexts, such as "remission" versus "cured," can significantly impact patients' perceptions of their health status and influence their emotional well-being. 26:16 🔄 Practicing mindfulness and paying attention to symptom variability can lead to feelings of control, improved health outcomes, and a more empowered mindset, as demonstrated in various studies on chronic diseases. 29:29 ⚡ Mindfulness is not only energizing but also beneficial for overall well-being, improving memory, relationships, and productivity, among other aspects of life. 33:41 🔄 The illusion of control, coupled with rigid judgments and perceptions, can lead to mindlessness and hinder personal growth and understanding in relationships. 39:52 🤝 Understanding that every behavior is motivated by values and perspectives can foster empathy, grace, and deeper connections in relationships, challenging rigid judgments and mindless assumptions. 41:02 🧠 Mindfulness can help combat a scarcity mindset by promoting a sense of abundance and multiple possibilities. 42:54 🔄 Embracing mindfulness allows us to see resources as more abundant and encourages a shift away from limited thinking. 44:18 🔮 Humans tend to overestimate their ability to predict outcomes, while hindsight bias reinforces the illusion of predictability. 46:42 🤷‍♂ Rather than stressing over making the right decision, embracing uncertainty can make life easier. 50:25 🚫 Mindfulness helps detach from labeling experiences as inherently good or bad, offering more emotional flexibility. 53:13 🌟 Dr. Ellen Langer integrates mindfulness into her life naturally, using it to inform her actions and research. 56:53 ⏰ The counterclockwise study suggests that much of the deterioration associated with aging may be influenced by mindset rather than solely by biological factors. 59:06 💡 Embracing the process of trying, rather than aiming for complete success, can lead to a more meaningful life. 01:00:41 🤔 Dr. Ellen Langer emphasizes living in the present moment rather than obsessing over distant future plans, suggesting that being fully engaged now is more fulfilling. 01:03:29 🕰 Perception of time influences physiological functions, such as blood sugar levels, suggesting that our subjective experience of time affects our body's responses. 01:04:52 💪 Dr. Langer's studies demonstrate that mindset, rather than physical exertion alone, significantly impacts fatigue and physical performance. 01:07:47 🎹 Incorporating fun into mundane tasks, like taking stairs with piano keys, illustrates the power of mindfulness in transforming experiences. 01:09:52 ⚖Dr. Langer's research shows that reframing perceptions, such as considering work as exercise, can lead to tangible health improvements without changing behavior. 01:12:33 🧠 Placebo effects extend beyond medication to expectations influencing various behaviors and outcomes, highlighting the power of belief in shaping experiences. 01:17:20 😌 Stress often arises from predicting uncertain outcomes, yet Dr. Langer suggests embracing uncertainty and recognizing past worries as often unfounded, leading to reduced anxiety and improved well-being. 01:20:09 🧠 Being mindful is contagious and can lead to positive outcomes in interactions with others. 01:21:44 🧘 Mindfulness may have a residual effect, as shown in a study where participants performed better on cognitive tests after being in a room previously occupied by meditators. 01:23:05 🤝 Autistic individuals may be hypersensitive to others' consciousness, making mindfulness in interactions particularly impactful for them. 01:25:12 📝 Keeping a diary of drinking habits can increase awareness and control over alcohol consumption. 01:27:27 🍷 The sensitivity of heavy drinkers to others' consciousness may influence their drinking behavior, as shown in a wine tasting study where participants consumed more when the experimenter was mindless. 01:28:25 🔮 Dr. Langer shares personal experiences suggesting the existence of phenomena beyond current scientific understanding, emphasizing the need for open-mindedness. 01:32:26 🌍 Dr. Langer envisions a more horizontal societal structure where everyone's contributions are valued equally, aiming for a mindful utopia. 01:35:29 🏥 Dr. Langer advocates for applying mindfulness to reform institutions like hospitals, envisioning a more empathetic and supportive healthcare environment. 01:40:34 🏥 Dr. Langer discusses the concept of mindful hospitals and schools, suggesting they could have a profound positive impact on society. 01:41:30 📚 Current educational systems focus on memorization and standardized testing, neglecting individual strengths and fostering unnecessary stress. 01:42:49 🌱 Dr. Langer shares her vision for reimagining education and healthcare, emphasizing the importance of mindfulness and open-mindedness. 01:44:12 🎓 Dr. Langer's class at Harvard is popular, with students petitioning to join, and she hopes to make it more accessible to everyone in the future. 01:45:05 🤝 Rich Roll praises Dr. Langer's work as revelatory and expresses admiration for her approach to addressing important topics from lived experiences and experiments.

[@ljlake546]

Do you do this completely independently? Because it's so helpful, thank you either way. Also I was mindful not to skip to a topic I thought I would be more interested in due to the words used to describe it 😂

[@dameanvil]

@@ljlake546 yes, I work for no government, and that qualifies me for independent.

[@djdollase]

Wow Rich! I don’t know how you do it. Every time I see a new episode of your podcast they just get better and better. This is one of my favorite of all time possibly even my favorite. Fantastic work, my friend, please keep it up. What you do is unique.

[@catsteinhilb2880]

This was fantastic; I enjoyed every minute. Thank you both

[@carolspencer6915]

Good morning Rich and Ellen Just again want to truly thank Ellen for her work. Would love a conversation with the like! For sure. Over a few years now this realm of work has kept me sane and made/confirmed loads of SENSE within my professional personal and familial world. Super grateful for you both. 💜

[@CoolInOlympia]

Perfect subject for me, this morning!!!!

[@writethroughtheheart]

Wow! What a fantastic lady! I can't wait to get my hands on her book.

[@viviankinney2283]

Thank for probably the best pod cast I ever listened too!!! She is contagious..inspiring...practical and most importantly believable,!!!...I always enjoy your material..but this one is by far the most exciting. Thank you for being a promoter....for elevating consciousness...because I know if she made a mindful school it could really change everything!!! The possibilities are endless...

[@anned6913]

What a wonderful lady ! Love this conversation. Thank you so much both. ✌❤

[@yesyoga]

This is THE BEST interview I’ve heard ever! I’ll now buy the book. Thank you, thank you! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💙

[@velmasablan2290]

When she gave the example of viewing a person as a snob versus shy, I thought of Elizabeth’s view of Mr. Darcy in Pride and Prejudice ☺️

[@mjrotondi5086]

This scholar is absolutely DELIGHTFUL. SHE IS very unusual ; she is actually down to earth and can most likely relate to ANYONE, rich, poor, smart. Average, above average. This is what I believe a cosmopolitan, well educated person can aspire to become instead of mindlessly stuck in a rigid hole 👏💕 self constructed and boring.

[@elizabethdejurewood]

Such an inspiring conversation. I love her insights and enthusiasm. Also her wishes for a more equitable society; a horizontal orientation rather than a vertical one, is heartening and refreshing.

[@afsipena4138]

Thank you Rich ! Excellent interview! I ordered the book and start shopping now from camelback 😊

[@NancyCronk]

That was one of the most interesting podcasts I have ever seen or heard. I am going to watch it again.

[@ivanak7149]

This podcast is amazing. I'm listening to it again in case I have missed anything. What I'm not enjoying much are the adverts..

[@cindihunter9119]

Rich, I've listened to your podcasts for years! This is one of my favorites! A remarkable mind that Ellen has! Love your insights, and sharing these fabulous podcasts! ❤

[@malgorzatabarrow4596]

Life wisdom! I appreciate every single episode Rich Roll! Dr. Longer is a true inspiration! Her work truly inspires me to grow and fulfilling my life purpose! It is so easy to loose our minds. Your content and guests help me be a better person and use my prefrontal cortex not limbic system to rule my life! Thank you! Words cannot describe how I appreciate you! We have never met in person but I feel deeply connected to you and many of your guests!

[@csx9000]

Thankyou both for a wonderful episode ❤

[@ifnotnowthenwhen9063]

Lucky people who ever come to contact with this lady .And to be her student must be like winning a life lottery

[@goodnatureart]

Ellen Langer is so smart. Thanks.

[@janetraine4883]

That was amazing. It blew my mind. Thank you.

[@om7854]

One of the best podcasts I've ever heard...it touches on so many aspects of life where we can so easily limit the outcomes....I'll be listening again later....so much food for thought or non mindfulness thought in there....yes for Mindful Hospitals, schools etc... A 100 thousand thanks...

[@joannakusz4543]

Dr. Ellen Wow I LoVE IT❤❤❤❤ Thank you for the interview!

[@TeresaMarlena]

Thank you so much, so inspiring!

[@tjdalyvideo]

Amazing as always! Thank you Rich

[@studiozmarketing]

Insightful, engaging, and mind-opening podcast! Thanks to Dr Ellen and to Rich who always asks the brilliant questions. 👏👏👏