The Most INCONSISTENT Superpower of all Time

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What's up people! Today I talk about something I've thought of for a long time. I believe spider sense is the most inconsistent superpower, let's discuss it! Enjoy!
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[@VigorousWhale]

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[@GothamPaladin]

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[@SaulGoodmanTotallyReal]

Substance?

[@Jack_Thatcher_]

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[@stx_1]

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[@goldenwaffles875]

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[@tomhato5523]

Here’s how I interpret the spider sense: his spider sense is him feeling vibrations around him. It discriminates between danger and non-danger based on how strong the vibrations are. I would think it even gives him a little radar, like a weaker version of Daredevil’s echolocation. Spidey can also feel the vibrations of his web, and get a good sense of the weight and substance of whatever it’s attached to. The effectiveness of spider sense is also tied to Peter’s mental state. If he concentrates or has a clear head, the spider sense is stronger and more acute. If he’s unfocused or overthinking, the spider sense will give him less time to react, if it even reacts at all. It probably even has a mind of its own at times.

[@kwayneboy1524]

So likw how a real spider feels vibrations and other shit? Something I also would love to see more of in media is how the sense can give Peter a stimulus overload because because in the comics and shows Pete says it feels like its buzzing or tingleling. So maybe as a weakness very few folks show is that it can actually start to fuck with Peter as it can get unbearable.

[@mollyturner3943]

Same I was just thinking that

[@Owen-sx4jj]

That's just pure head canon. It works by alerting Peter to unseen things or things too fast for reflexes alone. It's not gonna go off when a punch is being thrown that he can easily evade with his reflexes.

[@shoegazzzzzeeee]

the echolocation thing is how actually real life spider’s senses work. i’ve heard somewhere their senses are so acute that if spider’s SS were brought up to scale to a human, you could feel a man waving his hand at you standing from 10 meters or sum

[@Oblivi0usM]

@@kwayneboy1524 Miles Morales in the comics has this spider sense overload and recently he is now able to manipulate his sense into being able to actually see the danger. Like daredevil being able to see people

[@webslinger911able]

I see it kinda like any of your other senses. Think about your vision for a second. You can see things constantly, and it allows you to spot objects, threats, etc, but that doesn't mean that you NOTICE things 100% of the time. You can look over your keys 10 times in a row before realizing they're right in front of you, and in stressful situations with a lot of information coming at you, missing details is very easy. Same applies to Spidey Sense. Even though his senses might be warning him of danger, that doesn't necessarily mean he will react accordingly, as he might be mentally distracted or his senses can be so overwhelmed that the best move isn't clear.

[@Ash-Winchester]

That actually makes a lot of sense.

[@tienluong9648]

Good explanation

[@WeAreTheDraiken]

They did that in the old cartoon of the 90s I think and in early comics , where if he was in BIG danger his spidersense would just go off but didn't give him direction or go off and actually hurt him a lot, so he got more stressed and found it hard to focus.

[@SUPERBOSSYT]

4:00 dark Knight rises caught a stray for no reason 😂

[@ri.n0me217]

Perhaps we should flip expectations a bit. From a writing standpoint, I think Spidey sense is more of a justification rather than a set in stone rule. Maybe we should assume that most people would get hit, and Spidey sense serves to justify why Peter is able to dodge. Also, the little head halo notification thing is of course artistic representation. It may always be going off, but we would think it's lame if the writers always showed spidey sense on or if he got hit despite spidey sense being shown.

[@owen2680]

Good point

[@Ismatic1906]

I always head cannoned spider-sense was constantly going off, with it getting more overpowering and more difficult to make out, causing him to ignore it whenever possible. A lot of comics portray it as painful too, so there's some basis.

[@memerboi7128]

Yeah, like in combat you can see which enemy is going to attack but that doesn’t mean you’ll react in time to dodge or parry

[@yasianproductiontales8640]

Fair. I always just figured that if they have reflexes that can match or surpass Spidey, he’d get hit anyway.

[@terronprice2336]

​@Ismatic1906, the spider sense goes off if the danger is great. Enough to harm. There are stories that show it hurting peter but because the danger is that great like the world eater is about to eat the world or something of that level.the other case is his spider sense is upgraded somehow

[@ryan-ch6fp]

I like how ITSV portrayed Spider-Sense near the beginning, where it said, behind Miles 'LOOK OUT'.

[@almessasorrow4950]

Which is how it should work, since all spiderman powers come from anansi the god of stories it should work as a 4th wall break which explains deadpools obsession with spiderman

[@almessasorrow4950]

To summarize how spider sense works, it's just a 4th wall break

[@ryan-ch6fp]

@@almessasorrow4950 oh really? i didn't know this, that's interesting!

[@R10T]

Disregarding the notion of how it has to be inconsistent for storytelling, there are solid few reasons he can get hit. It can just a case of reaction vs combat speed. Peter (thanks to Spider Sense) can see an attack coming but his body is too slow to react due to the enemy being just as fast, or faster, than Peter. Does it make sense at times? No unfortunately but, that’s just a downfall of trying to tell a story with superhuman characters

[@Entertainer12314]

Gee, it’s almost as if it’s a writer’s job to solve problems that may get in the way of payoffs they want.

[@shaunavant532]

@@Entertainer12314hush

[@kwayneboy1524]

​@@Entertainer12314true but the spider sense seems to be a double edge sword that's kinda hard to write around unless you make up a bullshit excuse.

[@zzirfamo24]

Yea but there is also stuff of him dodging quicksilver and point black blast. His spider sense is too OP so they have to have moments where it’s inconsistent!!

[@FireLightLion]

I think of it as Classic Spidey just not paying attention. For example, in the ps4 game Spider-Man is calling Yuri Watanabe and Scorpion is behind him, Peter’s spider sense goes off but he just doesn’t care, they show the animation of the spider sense too to make it more obvious, so I guess that he is just distracted. Also Spidey’s combat isn’t the best in Marvel which makes him maybe react incorrectly, like in Edge of Time when Miguel is fighting an alternate Peter the Amazing Peter says that he takes too much time on his combos which is his flaw meaning that Peter have high inconsistencies in his fighting patterns. TLDR: You can still get hit even if you know ur getting hit

[@Weezy_F_Dende]

There’s a few things I can think of that could probably explain his spider sense problem. 1. his spider sense works like real spider senses. He can feel vibrations in the area and if the vibrations are strong enough, his senses go off. If they’re weak, his senses do nothing. That could explain why he can’t sense anything when someone is sneaking up on him sometimes because they’re just too fast, quiet and agile for his senses to be able to detect them. 2. When Peters senses go off, they can detect the danger but they can’t pinpoint anything specific. For example when he’s in a fight he can sense that his opponent is the danger but it doesn’t tell him what attack they’re gonna do or where they’re gonna hit him. Or every time he’s doing his own thing and his senses randomly go off, it tells him that there’s danger but it doesn’t tell him what or where it is. That’s why we always see him looking around and jumping straight in the air to avoid attacks every time because his spider sense doesn’t tell him where the danger only that it’s present and that he should get out of there. 3. I think if only works best if he’s absolutely focused and calm. If he’s not focused or calm enough then they won’t work. Or whenever he’s in a situation where too many things are happening at once, his senses get overwhelmed causing them not to work as well as they should. Or if he’s just got too much on his mind his emotions could interfere with his senses. There’s been many times where he was so emotionally overwhelmed that his powers just stopped working all together.

[@almessasorrow4950]

since all spiderman powers come from anansi the god of stories it should work as a 4th wall break which explains deadpools obsession with spiderman, but it's warning him using feeling so....

[@King-Brando]

4:03 States that The Dark Knight Rises is the weakest of the trilogy out of nowhere Refuses to elaborate Continues on as if it was never said

[@phoster3322]

Peters spider-sense is akin to DC super speed, yes it might be *difficult* to write consistently, but superior writers have done it, it takes effort and mindfulness. The fact is yes, our gripes are valid. based on what we’ve seen, it’s selective and unreliable, ignored by writers when inconvenient, doubling as plot armor when otherwise.

[@johnman8398]

Im sure there are writers that have written it consistently but not enough to reasonably expect that going forward. The gripe is about as valid about the gripe of people not being able to figure out spider-man's identity despite it being very easy is. Its like yes it doesn't make much sense but in the grand scheme of spider-man stories it doesn't really matter to any notable degree.

[@shilohshush530]

No i does matter, when spider sense is ignored its typically to put peter in a dangerous situation or to essentially nerf him to allow an enemy to get an advantage. For example in the spiderman 2 game during the opening fight scene with sandman its ignored to allow Peter to get his ass beat and highlight how useful and competent miles is. The issue here is it just makes it seem like peter is suddenly way worse at fighting than usual, we as an audience usually notice the nerf being done and it breaks the logic. Like imagine if superman suddenly just ignored kryptonite being his weakness. For no reason he just shrugs it off, you'd be baffled, its the same situation here. Writers need to stop being lazy and put just 5 minutes of effort into coming up with an explanation of how he gets caught off guard

[@Axolotlaxe21]

Flashes speed is the most inconsistent power ever.

[@deadcake4406]

I always figured Spider-Sense was something akin to morphogenetic resonance--essentially the idea of receiving information via "fields invisible to the eye". That meaning that it essentially just works sometimes and doesn't other times. Under morphogenetic field theory, this would be how the morphogenetic field would operate, because it's controlled by such subconscious resonance, that the actual microscopic level influences on the field, that are resulting in the "telepathy" that you're receiving on your end, are so insignificant that they could not be measurable by current scientific or observational means. Basically, the world around Peter is "deciding" if it is able to send him Spider-Sense feelings in such unperceivable ways that they're not noticeable to us. TL;DR version: Spider-Sense is resonance with the world around peter, that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't, because shit be that way.

[@pinkuisntniku6521]

Pretty sure that's how a science channel explained it too. It's the hairs on the spider. To me spider sense portrayed in media was more like a voice in Peter's head yelling dodge. It would be funnier if it was more of a hindrance like in robot chicken. You know something bad is coming but you don't know when and where it could lead you to block or doge the wring thing

[@almessasorrow4950]

Actually peter and the other spidermen get their powers from the first spiderman anansi the god of stories so it's more likely that the spidersense is a 4th wall ability like deadpools ability which would explain deadpools obsession with him

[@b1gmanassassin724]

Most of the points you made are easily explainable. 1. The crane seen Peter is occupied with the crane and in the comics he can override his spider sense if he’s occupied with something else 2. When he was searching for scorpion you see him sense scorpion and turn around right before scorpion jumps. And Spider-Sense doesn’t tell peter where attacks come from it just warns him that there is danger nearby 3. With Sandman peter was literally in midair. 4. The other points can be written off as the same as number 2. Remember peter can choose to simply ignore his senses. 5. With Kraven in the church it literally shows him not being focused because the water ringing on the bell is messing with his head. 6. With the lizard, i give you that one his spider sense did go off way too late.

[@StormtrooperDoge]

Ikr

[@thedestroyer5794]

I’m so glad someone was able to answer these nitpicks with ease

[@Rhyciz]

Bonus: When he was fighting the S6 on top of the Raft, he didn’t have time to jump before Scorpion gave him backshots. He literally just landed (Ik it wasn’t in the video but I’ve heard complaints about it.)

[@Sea-Bird..]

not really, in point number 2 he only turned around when scorpion said "behind you". In 3, Peter can still dodge mid air using his webs, he does it all the time. And in 5, that's just bs and you know it lol, he even senses the knife kraven throws, and then still gets hit again and again.

[@Sea-Bird..]

​@@Rhycizayo

[@thelegofanboy4326]

The *MAIN* way I see Spider-Sense: If the danger is right in front of him (clearly visible and all), it doesn't work and it's up to Peter to react/dodge. If the danger is away from his field of vision or too fast to react (behind/away from him), then it activates.

[@Owen-sx4jj]

Yh that's right. It's like people don't read. Why would spider sense react to a punch he can see coming and is fast enough to dodge

[@souleater9342]

He couldn't see Kraven and it still didn't Kraven

[@Triple8_Extras]

With Insomniac's Spider-Man, he does get his spider sense tingles during fights since it's a literal game mechanic. He gets is for dodging any sort of attack, melee or ranged and even the parry from the 2nd game. I've always seen his spider sense as something that can fail to alert him depending on his current mindset. If he's too focused/distracted with something, he might not realise it went off. And then depending on how big of a threat his sense is detecting, the longer/shorter he has to react. For example, the city hall bombing. It was a full on terrorist attack so his spider sense went off way earlier. And then in a fight with basic enemies, when you're about to be punched the spider sense gives you a second or two to react.

[@clipsdelosmajes]

4:00 ??? What was this comment related to?

[@joshdunne8792]

Thought i was the only one 😂 I've rewinded the video 4 times and it literally couldn't be more random?????

[@pelinalwhitestrake9306]

He's right tho

[@louikimchi8571]

There's a comic where spiderman had trained his spidersenses to the point where it doesn't only alert him of incoming immenent danger but had progressed into foresight where his spider senses could almost see the outcomes of what might happen. I can see why they nerf the spidersense at times.

[@ehangovani1851]

For the knife thing, I think peter probably presumed he could knock out kraven with a punch and didn't even know who he was, so it probably did warn him but peter got distracted seeing that kraven didn't feel a thing when he punched him

[@power_houz]

My personal interpretation of Spider-Sense not working all the time, especially in cases when it should, comes down to Peter and Miles' own focus during a situation. Basically, if they are in the groove of the fight or situation, the Spider-Sense acts as a supplement to them, allowing them to achieve peak performance whether it be swinging, rescuing, fighting, and so on. However, if they're anything like normal people (which they absolutely are) they can either briefly lose focus or focus too much on their situation, which can lead to any number of things, including poor decision making, ignoring existing stimuli or their own better judgement (e.g. blatantly leaping out at Sandman while he's huge), or trying to consciously track every piece of stimuli (e.g. church scene; Peter is obviously looking in every direction for Kraven, consciously trying to locate his danger, thus "muting" his Spider-Sense. The only reason it acts out is because a random event, being the knife, wouldn't be something he naturally could end up seeing in this state with his own eyes.) In comics, Peter explains in the Avengers Academy series that he used to just have his Spider-Sense guide how he swung and responded to crimes before, so it is plausible enough to assume that it acts more or less on the basis of "don't think, just do". If he thinks too much, it doesn't activate. If he turns off his brain, it basically tells him everything.

[@legacy8581]

Am I tripping or did bro randomly insert his take on The Dark Knight Rises @4:02 for no reason? 😂🤣

[@gullibleglassheart2300]

I think it's really cool that different continuities have different interpretations of how Spider Sense works. I feel like the power is vague on purpose. It allows different writers to have more liberty to imagine how it works for their version of Spider-Man. Like how the Raimi Spider Sense seems to give him a slowed perception of time so he can react more effectively, but then how the MCU Spider Sense is almost like the ability to sense Evil Intent (like in No Way Home), among other abilities (like in Far From Home).

[@bsl4762]

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[@1omarwalid0]

I think maybe this could be used to show that Peter is not focused as before. He is growing and struggling showing his feelings of being powerless which is why he wanted to keep the symbiote. And when he actually gets the symbiote he just starts getting sloppy and arrogant and overconfident to the point his sense is just starting to just not work. But I think the sense is maybe all about focus and how occupied his mind is. Miles because he is new to the job is probably on edge because he just doesn’t want to mess up and to Peter he’s more comfortable so more prone to being vulnerable. What do you think?

[@BullyDripGuire]

Now that i think about it, in far from home peter dosent have his spider sense for some reason and up until the drone fight he puts all of his focus into trusting his spider sense so maybe just like you said it all depends on focus and mental state that affects his spider sense

[@SleepyBrady]

@@BullyDripGuire Before Far from home his spider sense was kinda slow. Like his fight with Winter soldier and Falcon he managed to dodge a projectile thrown by Buckey but gets hit by falcon wings which drag him away. Then he fights Cap who just outplays spider man and somehow gets pete to hold up an airplane bridge thing. Then in Avengers where a giant invading ship shows up we see his hairs stand on end but by then LITERALLY everyone else was standing and looking at it. Granted Tom was asleep but still pretty slow. Then in FFH he gets his spider sense back completely and now it just works 100% since now he just is trusting his spider sense to do everything. Working it on overdrive. Even when he got his soul punched out his spider sense moved for him when strange tried to take that box from his had. Pretty inconsistent overall but cool

[@LostinaMemory]

Think about Spidey sense as an advanced version of our own instincts, when we get in fights. Sometimes we can dodge a hit and sometimes we can’t. Same with Spider-Man, except on a bigger scale, sometimes he can dodge a car getting thrown at him, sometimes he can’t

[@LostinaMemory]

… also, he’s a cartoon

[@cyriloboco3083]

If it's an advanced version of our senses than he should be able to dodge more reliably than average people. Like 90% at least. In the game it only works sometimes. It's like pete never learned from his years of experience of getting hit. He leaves himself open too many times like almost on purpose. It's honestly bad writing

[@JayceAntczak-yt4qe]

I remember in the first game when spider man was arguing with silver sable and ended up fighting and she somehow kicked him in the head and I was like how did he not dodge that

[@oddsmile1234]

The Symbiyote does dampen his Spider Sense though, that's why they also just don't trigger it.

[@motor4X4kombat]

I think the biggest example for me was in the spider-man 2 film where he suppoust to lose all his powers after work fatigue and suddenly out of the red and blue he dodges a car beeing throw at him at his back, while beeing peter parker, even though doc ock didn't know peter is spider in that point, so the doc was going to straight out killing him before he get answers about spiderman. And like many point out he can dodge that shit but not docs direct attacks at him due to dramatic covenience. Thats why i preffer daredevil super hearing because at least it showcase the limits and weaknesses from that power, it dosn't just disparar because of plot reasons.

[@dxdynamite47]

My theory is that the Spidey sense only shows Peter information that his conscious brain is ignoring. So for example, he may have detected Kraven's knife flying through the air by hearing it, but a normal human would ignore that slight sound. Spidey-sense triggers to tell Peter to pay attention to it. This is why sometimes it doesn't go off, because the danger is something that Peter would never be able to sense as a threat anyway.

[@gullibleglassheart2300]

It seems like in the games, his Spider Sense activates when he's off guard, but not when he's prepared to fight. Once his mind and body seem to be prepared to fight, there isn't a need for the senses to warn him of every individual attack because he would have every reason to expect something to come his way. The senses warn him of the unexpected. At least outside of gameplay, which I wouldn't consider canon for this discussion.

[@linearfuzion411]

Spider sense also warns Peter to other forms of danger. Like in poker it goes off whenever his pockets are in danger😂 also, just bc spider-sense goes off, it doesn’t tell Peter what that danger is

[@ryker4547]

People believe that the spider sense is the ultra instinct, when it is not, even if it is activated you will not be able to dodge all the attacks

[@scotthardie9970]

I think the MCU models it pretty well. When Peter gets knocked into his astral form his Spidey Sense has complete control of his body and dodges everything Dr Strange tries. But Peter’s human instinct is still in control when his mind is present, and allows him for mistake. It’s part of him controlling his power, controlling his human side, because Spiderman technically isn’t human anymore. Spidey Sense is an entity of its own and can make its own actions but Peter keeps it contained I think and it helps him when he needs it most.

[@maddenboseroy4074]

I feel like the MCU is quite consistent with Spider-Sense.

[@motor4X4kombat]

Why it didn't warn him that the gobling was going to betray him? And why it didn't warn tobey that the gobling was going to stab him in the back even though he dodge a flying car at his back?

[@maddenboseroy4074]

@@motor4X4kombat If Spider-Sense does not properly register someone as a threat, it does not work on that someone: for instance, Spider-Man vs. Venom or any of its descendants is Spider-Man vs. his black-suited self.

[@MataNui.]

I don't know if I'd agree it has to be inconsistent for the sake of writing as it being inconsistent is sometimes the result of bad writing. My understanding is Peter still has to figure out what it's trying to tell him, you can see this in the City Hall bombing.

[@dohickey7184]

A good contender for something nearly as incosistent as Spidey sense is the strength of Spider-Mans webs, in one scene those things will be strong enough to lift entire bridges and hold up collapsing buildings, in others a regular ass human who's good at martial arts or something can tear through them with relative ease

[@ryker4547]

Sandman's fist was inevitable to avoid because he didn't have time, Kraven with the knife shows that Kraven even without powers and killing almost all the villains including ELECTRO and that he entered Wakanda without being DETECTED can be faster what spiderman because he is A HUNTER

[@UnversedEquinoks]

Most other things seem to have been covered in the comments, one thing I wanted to point out is Spider-man's spider-sense seems to be most effective when it isn't hindered by his other senses. Typically humans wouldn't react without hesitating after seeing something coming at them, in this case it would be Peter's sight that is in conflict with his spider-sense. Now to use an example which isn't great but perfectly depicts what I mean, in spider-man far from home, when Peter is in the illusion and he needs to take out all the drones, he closes his eyes and trusts only in his spider-sense to be able to overcome something he was struggling with whilst trying to rely on his other senses. It's less to do with inconsistency of his spider-senses and more to do with the inconsistency of our senses as humans, think about times you've found random cuts but don't remember feeling any pain or even when you got the cut, the amount of times you've thought you've seen something in the corner of your vision, the times you've thought you heard something, or thought you smelled something or when you got COVID and you couldn't taste shit. My point is our senses aren't perfect and I think the same goes for spider-sense.

[@lux_max.]

I always thought the spider sense to be like an alert in a video game like a feeling that says to peter something is up

[@MikoPellas]

This video summed up my confused thoughts on how spider-sense actually works. However, I'd say that the flash's speed force is the most inconsistent

[@ocfidere]

I been thinking too abt how inconsistent they are with his strength and ability. They like to show it off sometimes and then others it’s like they can’t even be bothered

[@chewsdaym8]

I always interpreted the spider sense so that it tells Peter that something bad is going to happen. He doesn’t know what’s happening, it’s more like that feeling you get when you think someone’s watching you from behind.

[@Bjuskens]

4:02 bro is onto nothing🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@theterrorofdimensions1326]

Not really sure what I could add to this conversation, but it is worth pointing out that there have been times where someone has managed to be immune or "invisible" to the Spidey Sense (most notably, the Green Goblin created a formula to do so). And some enemies, such as the Lizard, can actually move faster than the Spider-Sense can detect. That said, I do agree that it's very inconsistently used in how it alerts him to danger, since there are plenty of moments where he is able to detect someone hiding from him or behind him long before they strike, yet other moments they somehow get the drop on him. So I'm not exactly sure how that really works out.

[@pattik_]

I feel like spider sense is literally a 6th sense and any normal person couldn’t understand it and it works in many ways just like how sometimes you don’t pay attention to your sense of sight peter doesn’t pay attention to his spider sense and he has to really hone in on it

[@horsechoker1272]

I kind of assumed that his spider sense works when he can’t sense the danger from his regular five senses, so if he’s looking at the opponent it might not work because his other senses are engaged. This is inconsistent from writer to writer but it’s my best explanation

[@Wolf52900]

One of my favorite KZbinrs keep up the good work

[@hytek3962]

I think spidersense doesn’t tell him WHAT is happening, rather that something IS happening. It’s up to him to find out what’s happening and what to do.

[@Owen-sx4jj]

That's outside of combat but during combat it works by alerting him to things he can't see or are too fast to dodge with his reflexes alone

[@hytek3962]

@@Owen-sx4jj so… you just proved my point?

[@TheAlphaTeamPlays]

The way I see it (and this is fully just a theory) Spider-sense is something Peter has to “tune into” to use. For example, in a regular encounter in the game, he’s able to take advantage of it to dodge bullets and punches and stuff, since it’s a more casual situation and he has the mental capacity to pay attention to it. With him getting stabbed by Kraven, on the other hand, I think the reason he didn’t react is because Kraven is just a super dangerous person which was probably giving Peter a constant surge of Spider-sense combined with the other hunters, making it hard for him to focus on it

[@Plasma_trinity]

You really put some thought into it, coming up with something like this.

[@uunholyy_]

honestly I think the reason Kraven always got a surprise hit on Peter is because Kraven is very agile and fast (similar to the final boss battle with Otto in SM 2018).

[@JoseCaetano-cu5ho]

8:13 I interpreted that the Spider-Sense was "nerfed" because the symbiote was slightly affected by the rain on the bell that is shown as soon as it enters, there is also the first-person view in which it is flickering.

[@JaydenBowman-vf4jg]

The way I see it, I’ve seen a spider dodge multiple shots from nail gun, but people have still killed a spider.

[@nabilhuzir2066]

I mean the easiest explanation for it's inconsistencies is just magic , since spiderman is a spider totem which is connected by a mystical force that resides in a 5th dimensional space that binds the multiverse together which is the web of fate and destiny , I know it seems like a cop out but what else explains it's in universe inconsistencies other than the web decides it just wants to mess with peter

[@mr_-m4165]

Okay I have a pov which maked sense , peter can control his SS and make it sharp or mid lvl as it was mentioned in the game , and irl spiders can dodge danger when they know there is danger and when the speed of the danger thing less than their dodge speed and that's why he sometime doesn't dodge even though his SS warn him and some times it doen't even warn him but he dodge hits using his high speed reflection and maybe even it differ between every spider man in each universe and depends abt the type of the spider which bit spiderman as we know , Miles' SS is better than Parker's

[@Tyrineal]

his Spider-Sense has never been an auto reflex, he would still need to react and even then it can be dimished based on his current level of awareness, whether or not he is paying attention his current physical condition and emotional state. Even someone of similar speed to him can actually hit him if he can't react fast enough (Scorpion, Venom, Kraven, etc)This particular version of Spidey seems to prefer to identify what is coming at him before he dodges which does lead to him being hit. The Kraven knife thing for example, look at it again Kraven grabs onto his hand while letting Spider-Man run into the knife on his own, he doesn't stab him until Spidey impales himself. Something like this would completly go around the Spider-Sense

[@pian-0g445]

I think something along the lines of MCU spider’s explanation could help out. Basically, spider sense is his senses all being dialed up. But if everything is now more sensitive, he may not always be able to notice certain things, and also unlike Miles, doesn’t actually know what it is, just that it’s moving. This explanation that it’s just his existing senses being over locked would make sense as even we don’t always notice things really obvious. Like ever had a friend sneak right behind you when other times you’re easily able to notice. How you just can’t seem to find that milk in the fridge that your mum then pulls out of thin air.

[@mikehezzydaillest7842]

Spider-sense is going to be nurfd and inconsistent purposely because he will be a defensive God and a lot of fights really won't last long.

[@prestonjr2099]

I’ve always likened the Spider-Sense of his heightened other senses culminating in that “buzzing, tingly feeling at the back of my neck”, like his awareness and instincts feel his environment and relay that danger to his conscious mind in this method As for in a fight, it lightly guides him in dodges and movement, like it does when he web swings. But if he’s moving too fast or his opponent is moving too fast or sudden, it can get overwhelmed; it can’t sense the future after all. I personally just also hate when it gets completely ignored in obvious events (most of Spider-Man 3, Tobey getting stabbed in No Way Home, etc) and at the very least, I’d much rather have a Spider-Sense user have it go off moments before they get hit or blown back by something random as opposed to it being forgotten at all.

[@daboring1]

i always saw it in some medias as more of a sonar to be aware of his surrounding, thats how he swings around without really looking where he shoots the webs at, that or he is very familiar with every building in new york city

[@sonugadaniel3013]

Perhaps it only warns him when he's not expecting it. So when he's already on high alert it gets toned down.

[@spencernaugle]

I don't know where i read it but as far as i know there are 4 issues at hand. 1. Someone Highly skilled at stealth can get around his Spidey-Sense. 2. The more dangerous something is the more time he is warned in advance. A stab isn't as dangerous as a bomb. Ironically if he's warned too soon sometimes he can't figure out the source of the danger so he gets hit anyway. Once his Spidy-Scene was freaking out for half and hour so Peter had no idea what to do, then Galactus Showed up and there was nothing he could do. 3. Speed limits and Giants messing with Human perception. The bigger Sandman gets, the slower it looks like hes moving. But he's actually moving faster, super fast, faster than Spider-Man can dodge *Sometimes*. And if an attack is fast enough sometimes it's too fast for the Spidey-Sense. 4. There seems to be a complicated relationship between. A. How focused is Peter. B. How dangerous the attack is. (Remember he has a healing factor) C. How far away the attack is. D. How fast the attack is. E. How good at Stealth the attacker is. F. He will ignore the Spidey-Scense if people are in danger. He seems more likely to get hit if it's not a one shot kill.

[@joel9104]

My counterpoint is always "and you play the spiderman games and dont get hit? Sure..."

[@penguinking2258]

Love your videos paladin.

[@penguinking2258]

The spider sense is bugged in both games you would think for something so important it would always be active. It might be inconsistent and that's good but that can also probably be a big liability against Peter's life.

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Yeah I guess

[@BIGTHANKSHEESH]

For Kraven, I think ots cause he is a maaster hunter, who can negate the spidersense, which would be akin to a prey sense

[@thekingofcookies4877]

I like how he weaponised it once by destroying controls of a lab, saying that his spider-sense will warn him if he's about to blow himself up.

[@gigantkranion]

Or how he sometimes just webslings into a crime being committed because he just goes to where his senses tell him that there's danger.

[@jackywaiiplo2476]

The thing is, spider sense isn't only inconsistent as a danger sense. It is inconsistent of the extend of its ability, or the way it works. I even found article saying that spider sense is the ability that guide him through web swinging and also the ability that allow him to mix the chemical and create spider silk like substance. It is OP, and not just OP in a sense that he can dodge all the attacks but OP in the sense that he can basically do whatever he wants as long as he is physically capable of without practice. If we only consider it as a danger sense, then the best way of understanding how it works is look at how people shoot at him and he can dodge every bullet. This implys that it actually alert him constantly. Likely with a catch though: NOT IF HE IS ALREADY CONCENTRATING ON THE TRHREAT. Or not when he is already attempting to do something against a certain threat. So he basically has domino (deadpool? X-men? ring a bell)'s power but kind of work in the opposite way.

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

This is why there needs to be a game about Spider-Man 2099 specifically, you wouldn't have to write the Spider-Sense in at all. That'd be the most grounded Spider-Man game ever, literally anything could take you by surprise.

[@2kx62]

Super speed and spider sense.

[@macalloway1]

Insomniac is inconsistent in the cutscenes clearly just for plot reasons but the gameplay is consistent about this. To prevent false alarms it generally should be reserved for eminent danger like a punch not bombs in the general area. I interpret it as, if peter senses something he needs to dodge the time it takes to find an area that would allow him to avoid it safely could be a factor of if he can or will dodge it. His body has super human reflexes but he still has to decide where to go and though he's smart there's no reason to believe he has mental processing multiple times that of a normal human. For example, he may be able to eat a cheeseburger faster than anyone but it doesnt mean he can pick if he wants a #1 no ketchup or a #6 with large fries faster than a normal person. In the cutscenes I also believe he doesn't always have a visual indicator that he is using his spider sense and if he's being attacked he may sense the first punch of a combo but not each punch individually. My guess.

[@thisisxeny]

I feel it more warns him of the danger but not of what the danger is, thats for him to figure out, and sometimes he just doesnt know what the danger might be like unexpected moves etc.

[@tendaiball5598]

i know this sounds like bs, but i feel like since kraven is a hunter, he might be able to bypass peter’s animal senses to stab him.

[@briana.9395]

Also some of the scenarios you mentioned happened when Peter was wearing the symbiote. I don't know if the Insomniac symbiote is meant to be like the Klyntar from the comics, but don't symbiotes also grant the wearer the ability to see from any part of the body?

[@gullibleglassheart2300]

I think Damian beating Deathstroke isn't inconsistent in the context of that continuity. Different versions of characters have different levels of strength and other stats, and the DC Animated Movie Universe just straight up has weaker versions than the comics, so it's not inconsistent within it's own narrative to have that specific Damian beat that specific Deathstroke.

[@castedsp1ders]

0:09 been wondering where i seen that web swinging animation from, they reused it for Peter in SM 2 as his nornal animation

[@emaphantom4327]

There are times that his body can't react when his spider sense does

[@tremel7336]

Simple solution, Spider-Man CAN dodge nearly every physical attack when he allows his spider sense to take control over his actions. When utilizing his spider sense in this way, time slows to a crawl and his sense is able to coordinate the best possible solution without him even actively thinking, however, he doesn't use his sense this way because it doesn't take into account other people. Let's say he was using his sense this way and a civilian got caught in the crossfire because his body moved on its own to protect him and only him. We can then make it to where when Peter knowingly rejects his spider sense, All he can feel is a tingle in his body at the area in danger right before he is about to get attacked (the spider sense can still be represented over his head, but he actually feels the tingle around his chest if he is about to be hit in the chest), forcing him to locate the danger and get out of dodge before the attack lands. This would be a way to nerf such an OP ability while allowing it to remain OP. So, when someone like Scorpion sneaks up on him and is about to strike, he gets the tingle at the back of his head, and he only has about a second or two to identify the threat and get out of dodge. Adding on to that, if he is utilizing his nerfed version of the spider sense when civilians are around, he has to calculate every single move to avoid them getting harmed. Also, when he is absentminded or even just unconscious, the stronger version of his spider sense allows him to dodge nearly every physical attack that comes his way. I'd still make it to where characters that are faster than he can move can still tag him, but that's it.

[@scrap-godsuper-zo4740]

the symboit i think makes his spidy sense weaker and also the symboit (or just venom Idk) is immune to his spidey sense

[@Owen-sx4jj]

How are people forgetting this dude has reflexes and a fast one at that. He is fast enough with that alone to evade bullets. Spider sense acts as a warning to things he cant see at the time or things that move too fast for his reflexes alone to dodge, giving him more time to evade. Eg speedsters. A punch is easily evaded with no spidersense because he can see it. It not gonna ping for each either. Just read the books

[@1cubsfan100]

I thought about it for a bit and I believe the best explanation is that his sense is not inconsistent, it is Peter/miles that is inconsistent. Insomniac Spider-Man uses all of his senses, which can be distracting to his spidey sense. So distracting that he can only vaguely determine that there is incoming danger. MCU spiderman seems to have a more developed sense. There he has to beat mysterio, by ignoring all his other senses and focusing only on his spider sense. Once he does that he not only vaguely senses incoming danger, he seems to know exactly when it is coming, where it is coming from, and how to stop it. As for the kraven church scene, I think that the spidey sense also senses the intent of the attacker. Those surprise attacks by kraven, was kraven simply toying with him and nothing for his sense to warn him about.

[@RaymonPrivgeTRusit]

I think why Spiderman gets hit sometimes is because his spider sense know how strong someone is if he got hit it just shows that he can easily handle the damage or significantly weaker than him or someone scales higher that it bypassed his reaction time in his spider sense

[@gigantkranion]

Above all, Spider-Man is often ignoring his senses as he already knows he's in danger. The Spider-Sense doesn't tell him exactly where or what the danger is but, that there is just danger. When he allows his senses to react it will do what is needed to get him out of danger. It's not meant to find people just that he is heading towards something that will likely cause him harm and the senses tell him to leave the closer he gets. Which is why in the comics, he uses his sense to find crime by merely heading in the direction that his senses are telling him to go away from. So, if he's saving someone and there's an oncoming fist from Sandman about to hit him... he's gonna ignore it and take the hit. Which is another point to address in your video... if he's distracted, tired or overly focused. It just sometimes doesn't work. It's not perfect and even he has acknowledged that other Spider-people are sometimes better with the Spider-Sense. Scorpion in the comics was on par with Spider-Man. He was the original Venom in the sense that he was the anti-version of Spider-Man and would always be a threat. So, even if he is being told of the danger, Scorpion is a fast and strong as him and he can only move/hit so much. Scorpion is pretty nerfed nowadays though. I didn't play MSM2 but, I can see Mary Jane or some kind of woman is there when Kraven stabbed him and he's also pretty fast and strong which didn't help his distraction. Same as with the hand slap from Sandman, or that his senses was just telling to get out of there and not to dodge that hit. The guy with the axe did an unexpected attack following a flash so, it's pretty understandable if Spider-Man knew an attack was coming but, had no idea it was going to be that. He looked focused when the lizard attacked him so, that's also understandable. Idk why he couldn't dodge the second machine thing. Good point with that one (you might be correct about the first one that got him, unless he was distracted). Or Kraven getting the jump on him 3 times (Edit: someone said the bell was ringing and with the Venom symbiote being sensitive to loud noises... that's good point against you). Those are the only good points I saw.

[@jacobgubler2220]

I think it might only go off when it’s a lethal attack you saw how leaven threw a knife at him and his senses went off but when it was a punch he just shook it off

[@cameronpitcher6562]

I believe Miles spider sense didn't go off with Scorpion as well. I'm thinking it works by alerting him when he's not aware of something already? But it is inconsistent af.

[@beauty1nchaos]

his spider-sense also shows when others are in danger

[@brandonclarke436]

Just because you have spidey sense doesn't mean you are actually fast enough to react at times too. I imagine a mastered version of it would render Peter completely unhittable

[@Dnoobd]

If it made sense then we wouldn't have good spider-man stories

[@kwayneboy1524]

*Caugh Caugh* Kraven's last hunt *Caugh Caugh*

[@Ismatic1906]

That's an excuse. Its still bad writing. These types of things take the players out of the story.

[@kwayneboy1524]

@@Ismatic1906 does it also take you out of a movie when Peter gets beaten whenever his spider sense doesn't activate too? Truth is the spider sense is a double edged sword by nature when it comes for writing because it's mear concept makes near impossible for Peter to get hurt or injured in fights along with it also making it harder to build dramatic tension in a scene. Many films, shows and books have shown it failing to activate because if it did it can run the risk of ruining tension or surprise of a scene. It makes for both for a cool power to show off but it's a bitch to get around when writing scenes. Sometimes if you want to make a spider-man story work you kinda need ti nerf that power at times.

[@Ismatic1906]

@@kwayneboy1524 You think it doesn't consistently annoy me? I hate it in basically all of the media where its portrayed. If you want to have it consistently nerfed from its original appearance, fine, but stick to it at least. The surprise of a scene isn't ruined by Spider sense, especially if its portrayed appropriately. He can get tired, he can slow down, he can stumble, but when its portrayed weirdly, how else am I supposed to react?

[@onceuponagamemaster1588]

I think we usually think about the Spider-Sense wrong. And that's why it seems more inconsistent than it is. Because we see the vibrations around his head, we think it's just activating - but it's actually always active. It just rises in frequency based on how strong the danger is. It's been said that Peter can ignore his spider sense - and The Amazing Spider-Man Annual 42 probably highlights very well why Peter often _does._ Think about if you drop into a sewer with an unseen monster. Your spider sense doesn't know where it is, but it DOES know it's around. So it's constantly humming 'ENEMY IS CLOSE.' 'ENEMY IS NEAR' 'SOMETHING DOWN HERE WANTS TO KILL YOU.' 'SOMETHING IS STALKING IN DARKNESS.' You might start to tune this out. Because you're like 'No shit.' And you need to focus on other things. Such as if how you can _find_ the creature. How you're going to fight it when you finally run into it. How to keep this creature cont- *'ENEMY IS KICKING YOU!'* And suddenly you turn around only to get struck in the face, because the spider sense frequency rose faster than you could react to, while you were ignoring its much more baseline hum. Because you're right; Spider Sense isn't Ultra Instinct. It doesn't move Peter's body for him. It's something he has to actively listen to. And sometimes he's much more focused on other things to be ABLE to listen to it - that clip of the crane moving in to hit him while he was holding up that structure with his webs is a good example. It's not that his spider-sense didn't warn him of it. It's just it warned him *stronger* the closer it got. And only was it _very_ close was it strong enough to actually get Peter's attention - but by then it was too late for him to dodge. This is also why when we see Peter at his most dangerous he's not talking. He pours all of his focus into his spider-sense. Which makes him nigh-untouchable and able to counter pretty much everything and all in his environment. It requires that level of focus and attention to work at the height >we think< is the norm. (Also um. That Dark Knight Rises being the weakest of the trilogy statement. I don't disagree, but what was that about? Was that a mistake? xD)

[@juniortshikovha3396]

Mabey the spider sense only warns Peter about extremely dangerous attacks

[@Sheeptastical1935]

it doesnt warn him about kraven shanking him but it warns him about kraven throwing that same blade that wouldn’tve done much because of the symbyote

[@kevinkeenan-2.1]

I agree, Pete’s spider sense should have effect more! Sure he can take a few hits, but not all the time. Nice video.

[@marin2561]

i feel like spider sense would be inconsistent if it were real anyway. just because he’s human and the human body makes mistakes, super or not.

[@DATBOYYBO]

If you watch the first spiderman movie, when flash tried to punch him, time slowed down for him. I feel as though it varies depending on the danger.

[@dabootygamersavagelife3087]

Now I’m not sure about this but I think there was a story where venom shut off his spidey sense to have Pete depend more on the suit or where venom had been bonded with Pete so long that the spider sense no long recognized him as a threat

[@masterblaster9875]

in ITSV his spider-sense went off when he met the other spider-people, even though he wasn't in any danger...so does also warn him of potential danger? Like, would it go off if somebody pointed a gun at him but had no intention of firing it or if the gun had no bullets? or if somebody swung at him but intentionally missed or, again, had no intention of hitting him?

[@Ashlego]

My take on Spider-Sense: Based on how much danger your in, it gives you more time. In the first game, multiple fake officers pulled out guns on Peter, giving him only a few seconds to react, but when the bomb went off, it gave him lots of time because that was the only thing happening. So in the second game when he gets hit like a fly from Sandman, he had just been attacked by him, and the gigantic sandstorm lowered his guard. That’s just my take. EDIT: To explain the church scene, I’m just gonna say that his Spider-Sense was anticipating a variety of Kravens attacks or the symbiote messed with with it.

[@notaaronpitts4439]

i think an explanation for alot of this is 1 he can choose to ignore his sences if hes focused on sum else and 2 sometimes the enimie is just faster than him or hes in some situation where even if he tries to react he just cant dodge like if hes mid air

[@johnnycomeau2299]

8:00 His spider sense doesn't go off br4cause it warns him of threats. At that point in the game he saw nearly nothing as a threat because of the black suit corrupting his mind. He reacted to the attack and flinched way ahead of time but didn't move out of the way because he wanted to tank the hit like a badass. You plainly see this

[@Mahifeshang]

Spidergwens spider sense tells her to go to a specific school while Peter's activates *after* he gets beat.

[@TheKingOfHarrtz]

the way i understood the spidersense ability peter gests warned about threats that he is not actively aware of for example it doesnt warn him of each blow thrown at him but he reacts to threats that he isnt consciously paying attention to like random knife throws it will kick in but if he is looking right at the enemy it doesnt kick in and then in other cases where it doesnt work that is purely so the story can happen so its alllowed to fail him so think of spider sense as hightened defensive reflex rather than complete threat warning, i hope that made sense lol it made sense in my head lol

[@lol10067]

Maybe it’s when peters is too focus on something his spider sense only goes off if that thing is a threat and normally Peter focus on everywhere like he’s focus on the person and not the weapon

[@Groggle7141]

And then you have the weird incarnations where Spider-Sense can literally predict the future, in anyplace at anytime because of the weird multiverse-magic, Spider-web of Destiny thing. Now that's some bullsh*t. It went from heighten senses and agility, informing the subconscious of danger; to literal fortune-telling!😂