The MOST interesting Z790 motherboard you've never heard of - ASUS ProArt Z790-Creator WiFi

[@TomasRamoska]

4:30 That additional PCIe power is for your front panel USB C power delivery up to 65w quick charging. I have this motherboard love it.

[@markmiskill6635]

What power supply are you using? Are you using all of the power connections on the board (24-pin, 8-pin, 6-pin, 4-pin)?

[@TomasRamoska]

@markmiskill6635 Hi yes using all 4. Motherboard 24pin CPU Power 8pin + 4pin and 6pin additional power for usb-c My GPU RTX4080 is powered with a 12VHPWR cable without any adapters. Power Supply BeQuiet 1000W PCIE5 Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply Unit

[@Yue665]

I have the X670E (AMD) version of this board, and it's one of the few boards that can justify its price. 10GbE alone is worth around $100, and having the massive number of USB ports, gen 5 slots, nvme slots, and etc make it one of the few first gen boards of the new platforms that can be expected to last the lifetime of the platform.

[@The300ZXGuru]

i have msi x670e tomahawk and its the best mobo ive ever had. paired with my 7950x3d and 128gigs of ram with a 4090 founders. enough juice to run everything in 8k for me

[@Yue665]

Uh, that's great. A lot of boards will handle that fine. The point of the video is it has dual thunderbolt/usb4 and 10gbe, which is something that your msi board doesn't have, but it also costs twice as much as the msi board. I'm not sure what argument you're trying to make.@@The300ZXGuru

[@The300ZXGuru]

@Yue665 yeah well I don't need my 16tb of m.2 12k read either but it's nice to have. Usb4? Nothing runs on this yet. Like saying I need a 16k TV or monitor. Lol

[@Yue665]

@@The300ZXGuru That's kind of the point though. With 10GbE, you can shove that into a NAS and still have fast enough transfer to enable editing directly from the NAS. USB4 has less use cases, with some major ones being external gpu, thunderbolt docks, and thunderbolt ssd. But again, it's a content creation motherboard, so storage/transfer speeds are priority.

[@UnknownMoses]

@@Yue665 Yes so why doesn't the ProArt Z790 have m2 gen 5, I suppose the motherboard is under 500 dollars though so not complaining i guess.

[@djLovelyTime]

One thing that's not been discussed is these Asus ProArt boards are very popular with music producers using Windows, due to the low DPC latency they offer.

[@drunkntigr]

Hmmm, would using an external usb sound card fix that though?

[@iMakeFunWithFish]

@@drunkntigr Thats a good thing! Low DPC (Deferred Procedure Call) latency is crucial for real-time audio processing, which is essential for music production. High DPC latency can cause audio dropouts, glitches, or latency issues, which can be incredibly frustrating for music producers.

[@ryanmalone2681]

This is a great motherboard for homelabs because you can split the first 2 PCIe slots in a x8 setup and fit 2 GPUs, can add a network car in the last slot for more networking, even a 1G card for a management interface, saving the faster slots for higher performance VM’s, and you can pass through the iGPU to a VM or share it if using LXC containers. Having a consumer CPU board that can house 3 GPUs AND has a lot of network IO is awesome.

[@jwaye89]

Banger of a motherboard overview fams. Keep up the hard work

[@DaskaiserreichNet78]

12:28 New Zealand has the same problem. A lot of things such as music gear, camera gear costs twice as much as in Europe or the US. And on top of al things wages in New Zealand have always been very low.

[@Adrian802]

What 's a cd rom (the round circle thing) doing here?

[@TheSwayzeTrain]

I like the aesthetic. Its more refined and its lacks the usual 'gamer' aesthetic of similar motherboards.

[@DaveDFX]

Thunderbolt/usb4 ports are 40Gbps around 3300 MBps. 10G ethernet is slower. around 1000MBps.

[@bevancoleman4444]

That round disk is for scaring birds from fruit trees. It's an odd thing to include with a motherboard for sure... probably some attempt at greenwashing...

[@unheard5982]

"Creator" - *M.2_4 slot shares bandwidth with SATA6G_5~8. SATA6G 5~8 will be suspended once either a SATA or NVMe device is detected at M.2_4.* So Asus did same as usual in almost all ther MoBo 600-700 series(except STRIX Z690-F GAMING WIFI - there is only one SATA6G_2 will be disabled when M.2_4 is operating in SATA mode) and a few other models, that can be counted on the fingers. So basicly if you want to put together a mini-storage in your PC by filling this board completely, you can easily get to a point where instead of 8 Sata you only have 4 available. And that's for very high price of that board. BTW two Ethernet ports is useful.

[@BenTroxell]

You sound like you know what’s up. What would you recommend

[@_B.C_]

@2:27 it’s a coaster, use it!

[@Phalaxis83]

Excellent overview fams. Can't wait to see klaire's new PC come together.

[@Wakemeup456]

Would this work on a thunderbolt docking station? I work from home and use a thunderbolt docking station to connect my work laptop to my monitors and other peripherals in one place. I would like to game and still have my thunderbolt docking station setup where all I need to switch between game and work is one cable. I'm not sure other avenues like a KVM switch would work in my use case.

[@sonkies5117]

I have this same question. Please let me know if you got your home/work thunderbolt dock situation functioning with the one cable swap out. I currently do this for work and home laptop so would like to just plug the thunderbolt cable into the PC when it's game time.

[@Wakemeup456]

@@sonkies5117 I'm not in a place yet where I can afford a full on desktop PC yet, but I do have a gaming laptop that takes advantage of thunderbolt 4. I'm not a competitive gamer by any means as the most demanding games I play such as Counter Strike, Battlefield, Witcher, etc all tend to run smooth on my thunderbolt setup hooked up to an ultra wide 1440p monitor with ease. Does that answer your question? I guess I have achieved that setup, but not using a full on PC using this motherboard yet, but I'd like to which is why I made that initial comment in the first place.

[@sonkies5117]

@@Wakemeup456 Thanks for the idea @Wakemeup456 I've built out the PC with the asus thunderbolt motherboard. I can easily change between work mac laptop, home mac laptop and home PC with a single thunderbolt cable. The cable goes into a caldigit dock and has all devices hooked up to it (ethernet, usbs, speakers, monitor etc).

[@chadhowell1328]

Slight correction - the button releases the top x16 slot, not the top m.2 slot :)

[@jangelelcangry]

Imagine how expensive would be a REAL HEDT MB now.

[@MarcsSpark]

You don't have to imagine, look a w790 pricing

[@madridgevara9484]

Well then how can I get digital sound for my smsl dac and amp setup. Thanks

[@mirkodiciano4647]

these boards have great rear io thats why i usually by these types of boards for my builds

[@terrysimons]

Just got this board and I love it.

[@phoenixgogo]

is it possible to connect an egpu (even 2) via the thunderbolt port ? to combine 4gpus (2 on board and 2 in external), for machine learning.

[@Blooddann]

Can you review the Asus ProArt GPUs...🙏

[@cxl520]

As a networking guy, I bought it because it mainly supports 10G NIC built-in 😁. And for Home Lab and other things that can be done in the future.

[@UnknownMoses]

Good review of the hardware layout

[@moonimmondal]

Are all the pcie lanes x16, x8, x4 pcie 4.0? Also, are the 4 m.2 slots all at pcie 4.0 x4? Are any pcie or m.2 going to be downgraded if I populate all slots? seems too good to be true

[@chris82079]

just picked this up on ebay for $230 shipped in the states. I agree all boards should have 10g. I have 2 others with 10g. EVGA classified z790 and aorus master x z790

[@Gandalf22476]

hey how did the ebay purchase turn out? Was everything good? Was it used or Open Box?

[@chris82079]

@@Gandalf22476 I used in a computer i sold. I assume its working great because i haven;t hear otherwise!!

[@JonneBackhaus]

the extra power is not for the PCI slots, man read the manual :D Its for the USB-PD power for the frontpanel USB you can pull up to 60W from that port with that power attached. It also supports QC3.0. Same as the AMD version of the Proart.

[@alexanderotten9642]

Compatable with gaming too?

[@richardfarmer6570]

Great looking board, you need to do a Pro Art build. Lot of rumors on 14th gen or 13th gen refresh, I am really hoping for a refreshed 13600k that will run on my z690. I don't think you are wrong about 14th gen otherwise why did we see so many new z790 motherboards at Computex this late in the release cycle. It is too expensive but it is Asus, I am scared to see how much the Pro Art 4080 will retail for.

[@TheSwayzeTrain]

Ya I think it would look great in a Fractal Design North (dark) case.

[@unheard5982]

What are you talking about? 13600k (13th gen.) compatible with 600-series boards. It seems to me a more important question: if the 14th generation does not receive a controller for DDR4, then just all the boards with DDR4 slots will find themselves in an unenviable position. And it doesn't matter if you bought a Strix with DDR4 for $300 or something similar with DDR4 for a similar price.

[@richardfarmer6570]

@@unheard5982 14th gen is just Raptor Lake refresh and not a newly designed CPU and since Gigabyte already has a new BIOS for upcoming CPUs on my z690 DDR4 I think I am OK.

[@unheard5982]

@@richardfarmer6570 Ok, thanks for info. Honestly i didn't "googled" that for other vendors, even i have now B660 board with DDR4 and 12 gen. i7. That's a good news.

[@iMakeFunWithFish]

@@TheSwayzeTrain Wow, really nice case for this mobo. I wish it would have a bit more 3.5'' drive brackets and a whole side panel of a glass. Then it would be perfect! But I think I might still get it when I'll be able to buy this mobo :)

[@cinemaipswich4636]

How would a CPU with only 20 PCIe lanes perform with this motherboard?

[@NNWillieProject]

Great review! Please need an update for the 14th Gen, particularly the i9-14900KS if compatible. Thanks.

[@GearSeekers]

It is

[@philberex]

Is this still worth getting or better wait for the next gen?

[@jaxbade]

Considering how powerful the 13th and 14th are, if you want to go with Intel and don't mind about the 15th gen (that will use a different socket, so think that there will be not upgrade path CPU wise if you put a 14900K in it), this board will provide you with everything you might want for a veeeeeery long time. PCIe Gen 5 isn't even standard in GPUs (though the rumor say that NVIDIA is planning for it for it's next 5000 series), M.2 Gen 4 SSD can reach very good speeds (you can take a Samsung 990 Pro if you want one of the top of the line, and it's even compatible with Gen 5). The only thing to really consider is for the upgrability of the CPU. LGA1700 is officially not getting any more CPU, and AM5 is brand new, so more recommandable if you care for upgrade (Asus ProArt X670E is the AM5 equivalent of this board).

[@philberex]

❤ thank you for the information.

[@jaxbade]

@@philberex You're welcome, I wish I had come across your question a little earlier, though. 😂 But if I can elaborate a little, depending on which use case you'll build your computer for, don't hesitate to go for AMD's options. Their last gen CPUs are crazy efficient (Ryzen 9 7900 has 12 cores for a 65W thermal envelop, and its performance are on par with its overclocked counterpart, and you can get it for around 330€) and it would allow you to balance the electricity load towards a more performant GPU, for instance.

[@JoeBlow-ub1us]

Why didn't you go into the stability problems this motherboard was/is having? As you said, you were kind of late to party with this board so you should've known. No? Unless it has been fixed?

[@angletech852]

Lord, what a beast. I want this.

[@alerijillo]

Does the board or the CPU need update in order to use the 192gb of ram?

[@unheard5982]

There is need a BIOS update, not CPU update, and since BIOS 0814 there is "improve single 24/48GB memory module compatibility".

[@JosephAraya]

I have the z690 version pf the board, really good combination pf features not available anywhere else. Wouldn't trade it for any other board. Just wish the socket had future upgrades like AM5.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

The round plastic is a creator's coffee pad.

[@timotmon]

How many memory slots have you used? Where you able to get 129 GB of ram working with XMP?

[@LittleLauLegacy]

Post code display please... Cmon Asus

[@larathiel]

This motherboard has my interest, but I'd like to know a bit more about how the DP-in and TB 4 ports work with regard to display daisy-chaining before I commit... Let's say I connect two outputs from my GPU to the two DP-in ports on the mobo. Would I then be able to take two TB4 hubs (e.g. a pair of Plugable 5-in1 TB4 hubs), connect one to each TB4 port on the mobo, and display to four monitors (i.e. two per hub)? Or, would I be limited to one monitor per TB4 port?

[@demonghibli89]

I kept rewinding the intro, it dont sound right 😅

[@cumfartchuglord]

I just checked out this channel's about me on their profile and this made me sub; "We acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land of which this content is filmed on, The Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to the Elders both past and present. Always was always will be Aboriginal land." Massive W for acknowledging the indigenous population and showing respect to them.

[@cumfartchuglord]

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@Kclerie]

ProArt Boards are legedary. Not sure if I'll ever buy another Brand and Model.

[@johnfoster7596]

Did anyone look for or find the motherboard BIOS backup Battery? Yes/No! It's hidden and almost impossible to get at and replace! Why did they do this?

[@TheEdwardDonald]

@@johnfoster7596 I’m also looking for the CMOS battery. The user manual doesn’t say anything about it. I’m hoping it’s not under the I/O or VRM heatsink. Any info on that?

[@FlamingTX]

I'm sorry but what did he said at the beginning? Hey gear seekers, I'm ...ers??....

[@L0rdT0nY]

The antena is not only wifi is Bluetooth

[@michaelthompson9798]

3:25 a custom sized ruler for ‘measuring ….. things’ for you Nick ahahah 😅😂🤣

[@krzysztofbonczak4323]

Good luck with iGPU UHD 770 Graphics configuration (not existing option for BIOS version 1203 and 1801) and ASUS support :)

[@markpoint1351]

guess we have tariffs to thank for that expensive AUD pricing... as a canadian i feel your pain nick... you should see what we pay for pc parts... :(

[@docang9317]

If only it has Wifi 7, that would be 100% perfect.

[@AviationPhotog]

Sick of us Aussies being shafted on PC pricing. Being a photographer, i really love the look and ability of this board, just not the price tag haha

[@threadripper979]

Those round plastic things are coasters for your beer.

[@jetflicks84]

😂

[@Bivs_setup]

Seriously WTF $1,029 AUD ?? We are Seriously being taken for a ride regarding IT pricing. 🤬🤬🤬

[@unheard5982]

Manufacturers looked at what was happening with the prices for videocards during mining fever, and decided to do the same for motherboards.

[@mrbabyhugh]

2:29 me me me i know what it is!! It's a Frisby!! You can throw it away and i think it is supposed to come back to you. LOL!!

[@fenixtech1342]

MOB boss Nick confirmed (motherboard overview boy). And yes cmon its 2023 #make10gbethernetstandard 😆

[@oldmanian]

Asus sponsored disc golf and that is a giveaway for those.

[@michaelthompson9798]

2:24 isn’t that a pc mobo decal like the old ‘Intel inside’ ones on office PCs 🤫🤦‍♂🤦🤦‍♀😅😂🤣

[@burellyt]

Like a lot of people, unfortunately, your voice totally drops down to almost inaudible during comments that might be considered 'incidental' and it hurts the flow as well as making you unintelligible at those points - like the review otherwise.

[@benoni679]

I personally never noticed this, I thought he was clear and intelligible the whole way through 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mg7685]

Dude - gamers can create content too. Seriously...

[@John_the_baptized]

The Proart series is an amazing series from a sketchy company

[@GearSeekers]

They are about as sketchy as every other company. People have very short memory

[@John_the_baptized]

⁠@gearseekers Yeah, many of the companies are pretty sketchy. MSI, NZXT, and Gigabyte are just a couple of other companies I’ve learned about being sketchy recently in this space. I haven’t forgotten. I am just making sure ASUS and others remember. Or at least hoping they know we remember so we can bring up their QC similar to Lian Li’s recent response to their recent AIO problem.

[@hotsecksi]

that round thing is a coaster for your coke.

[@mustbescud]

Wanted this motherboard until the recent controversy floating around. Makes me not want to give them my money.

[@GearSeekers]

You should make your own decisions and not let a single video saying bad things about a company make your decisions. We've been using this as the board for our studio and Ingest PC since this video came out daily with a 13900K and it has been more than rock solid. You cannot buy a product based on whether or not there is a tiny chance it will fail.

[@mustbescud]

@@GearSeekers Agree, and its not the hardware that concerns me. It's their business practice.

[@paulworster3683]

Waste of time and money, no m.2 Gen 5 for future proofing and no SPDIF output, Insanity! No SPDIF on a creator board, are you kidding me ASUS?

[@cajuudoido]

No debug led for this price. No thank you Asus.

[@visghost]

in Russia, this fee starts at $650