The Most Mysterious Creatures Ever = Vannifar Surprise!

The Most Mysterious Creatures Ever = Vannifar Surprise! | Against the Odds

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It could be anything, it could even be a boat...
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@thepufferfish8116 2 ай бұрын

to anyone playing this deck: remember that you can flicker your own portals with the channel mode on touch the spirit realm and uncloaking unyielding gatekeepers to get around ertais and trigger the sac 3 every turn

@AgentConundrum1 2 ай бұрын

I'm only a few turns into the first game and already came to the comments to make sure this was addressed. Pretty major punt to O-Ring a creature rather than wrath their board.

@Suppaichu 2 ай бұрын

@@AgentConundrum1 Does he realize it sometime in the video? i can't keep watching him doing this for the whole video, it bothers me too much xD. I don't blame Seth though, making content and pumping out interesting deck one after another makes it hard to take time learning how to pilot each deck and knowing exactly what cards do. He has to comentate as well, he probably though those could only target creatures.

@AgentConundrum1 2 ай бұрын

@@Suppaichu I don't think he realizes he missed that line during that game, but he does flicker the Portal later on. He also realizes too late that he needs a stop on the opponent's second main otherwise it'll come back on his end step instead of theirs.

@davidcrawford5324 2 ай бұрын

@@AgentConundrum1 Yeah he mentioned that later on in the video as he was in the middle of playing one of his games so he did notice it eventually

@McDodgerMan 2 ай бұрын

2014: We avoided printing flicker effects specifically so they wouldn't interact with Manifest in the same Standard 2024: I can't even count how many sets are legal now

@LadyMapi 2 ай бұрын

Standard nothing - Unyielding Gatekeeper is a flicker effect printed in the same dang set!

@jacobmartin3881 2 ай бұрын

"That's fine, we don't really draw extra cards in this deck" Never thought I'd hear Seth say those words in that order.

@maikocat 2 ай бұрын

Only two basics is a little greedy isn't it? I saw this video where a guy with a very impressive beard played a land destruction deck that took advantage of people not playing enough basic lands.

@poiri 2 ай бұрын

Tbf, it is a 4 color deck with a splash of black, so it’s not easy to fit in many basics

@maikocat 2 ай бұрын

@@poiri Also pretty sure that land destruction deck was in pioneer/explorer

@chadford3600 2 ай бұрын

Hey, I was the player you encountered that was running your UR Artifacts list from Budget Magic a bit ago! I remember our match though I am surprised I didn't realize you were my opponent. I just wanted to clarify that the list was card-for-card what you were using. I've been piloting it as my re-entry to Arena and it's served me fairly well. It seems to be struggling more and more against the things I see on the ladder recently but I have a real soft spot for synergy-based aggro decks like this. It's a lot of fun and there are a lot of powerful things to do, letting you pull damage from seemingly nowhere. Also it plays Syr Ginger, and she is a card I am super excited to play as much as I can. Keep it up with the cool brews!

@Skyhighjettalone 2 ай бұрын

"Vannifar, Envolved Enigma" Seth...we know you'll never change, but never change man😂

@honorableintent 2 ай бұрын

5:54 I'm so confused why you wait for Ertai to enter and target the ETB trigger from portal and then flicker the Portal. It would have re-entered, made them sac their board, and probably won the game by itself.

@Darksteelturilli 2 ай бұрын

He got two chances, after that could Touch the spirit realm the Portal again.

@DonovanPresents 2 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing as well! It feels like Seth doesn't play with enough morph abilities imo

@I43573 2 ай бұрын

Seth gonna Seth 😂

@Zomburai45 2 ай бұрын

@@DonovanPresents A lot of Seth's mistakes come from playing a huge spread of decks and formats but not getting consistent reps in on one or two decks The line honorableintent describes is the kind that's easy to miss if you don't get your reps in on one deck and mastering it

@demiurge2501 2 ай бұрын

made me so mad lol

@Atmapalazzo 2 ай бұрын

I was so close to flipping out when Seth implied he was going to concede game 1 vs boros convoke to try and keep his opponent from knowing what he was doing. Remember everyone, face down cards are revealed when a player wins the game.

@tyleremery7088 2 ай бұрын

Holy cow, for once I actually played a deck before it showed up on Against Odds! The full list is different, but the core of it is the same.

@jacobcook6921 2 ай бұрын

Okay, I made the opening joke about Seth once on a commander clash and ive never felt more seen.

@montefrenkel8205 2 ай бұрын

Got vannifar'd into the mole God once and man did that hurt.

@colyrne 2 ай бұрын

Vannifar has become one of my favorite cards from MKM, to the point where I have a cEDH list that I plan to proxy and play with my group locally. It's such a cool commander

@CupOYerba 2 ай бұрын

What wincons are you playing?

@colyrne 2 ай бұрын

@@CupOYerba the first version that I based mine off of only had beatdown eldrazi/big attacks as a Wincon, but it felt like it needed another, so I added a Hermit Druid line.

@colyrne 2 ай бұрын

Honestly though in the games that I've played on Cockatrice with friends it's impressive how well "just cloak and buff" is as a potential wincon too

@davidhower7095 2 ай бұрын

I was considering just making a Modular deck out of it, honestly.

@colyrne 2 ай бұрын

@@davidhower7095 That'd be pretty slick. What different shells do you think you wanna slot into it? I have a modular deck as well, but it's Rukarumel (and none of the types are sliver 😆)

@thecrazycapn 2 ай бұрын

Syr Ginger Surge Engine Syr Ginger Surge Engine Syr Ginger Surge Engine...

@codylarsen6637 2 ай бұрын

You could of had another blink effect. Abuelo something ancestor is a blink on a stick.

@daviddent5662 2 ай бұрын

Seth you beautiful, beautiful man thank you for showing me my new deck had the tech I was searching so desperately for in Tarkir and this recent set. A way to maximize cloaking and disguise to their fullest!

@haileydee9954 2 ай бұрын

so at @6:29 why not just channel the Touch the Spirit Realm to bounce the portal to phyrexia?

@kylegonewild 2 ай бұрын

probably just forgot it hits artifacts, or forgot the channel

@jeffreyjackson1739 2 ай бұрын

He punted

@Skylersuzy 2 ай бұрын

Good brew Seth. Great content

@noobtube2799 2 ай бұрын

I had the best MKM draft maybe ever. Pack 1 pick 1, Worldspine Wurm. Trying to ramp into it in golgari rapidly changed in pack 2 pick 1, with an Etrata. I lost my first two games playing sultai, BUT THE THIRD GAME I CLOAKED THE WORLDSPINE AND FLIPPED IT FOR 4 MANA IN RESPONSE TO AN ILL-TIMED EXPLOSION

@RazaEdge 2 ай бұрын

Imagine if Teleportation Circle was still in standard

@Hanmacx 2 ай бұрын

6:29 You could have Blinked the Portal with the Channel ability

@GuyFromCanada 2 ай бұрын

I played a version of this style of deck, but cut the gatekeepers. They felt incredibly clunky at every turn, and just worked better as a regular removal spell

@eotkavle5712 2 ай бұрын

Currently looking into using cloak with endless Whispers to get phage into play under an opponents control right now... its looking a little slow atm

@davidcrawford5324 2 ай бұрын

IMO the whole Disguise/Morph mechanic was hot garbage because regardless of how cheap they are to put out as a random 2/2, you STILL have to pay the Morph cost to flip it over later on, but I gotta admit this deck makes it all worth using since those face up costs are getting bypassed or reduced to negligible costs instead. Mad props to Seth for putting this together for those who wanna try the whole "surprise" element. I do like how you can cheat things into play early with it using ANYTHING not just creatures though...it's pretty sweet Edit: That reanimate deck he played and won against looked pretty spicy 😎

@MateoByrd-kg9rf 2 ай бұрын

At 18:00 is it better to cloak portal/titan so that if they do kill it then next turn disguise cast gatekeeper cloak the other surprise with vannifar and still be able to flip?

@NuclearRaven13 2 ай бұрын

it would be even funnier if this deck had a transformative sideboard where you swap your bombs out for other big creatures, suprise them even more between games

@Flarhoon 2 ай бұрын

Doesn't sound transformative

@Duall8 2 ай бұрын

49:30 notably you can't play the Loxodon facedown with Etali as you can't go with alternate costs when playing for free.

@PuggerLedford-oc3yj 2 ай бұрын

You are right about gleaming geardrake it's an awesome card I been running it in my izzet discovery deck to great success don't know why everyone is sleeping on it,it's my favorite card from MKM besides cryptic coat

@youmatterandareloved5373 2 ай бұрын

What about Yarus in place of Nahiri's Resolve or whatever its called

@NoeticEidetics 2 ай бұрын

Vannifar is definitely cool.

@gs9444 2 ай бұрын

What a sweet deck, When I think ETB shenanigans I think SaffronOlive, and this is why. Also, way to battle it out vs. esper and boros. Seth kinda beating the early scooper allegations on this one.

@bencheevers6693 2 ай бұрын

Seth is my favorite magic creator and I've been watching a ton of videos lately, I just wish he played limited because that's my preference by a large amount, coming back to magic you can play limited at a higher level way before understanding the standard meta and especially the larger formats. Also, standard puts you in a different decision game than standard does where you have to do more with less, use much lower power level cards and eek out an advantage and convert that. I wish I could find a content creator like Seth to watch who was as good as Seth is but at limited because I have so much to learn and I want to get a lot better. I'm also trying out standard on Arena with UW Baby Reanimator and U Tempo because they both use Haughty Djinn and a lot of the same cards, I've basically kept my boosters unopened and am just drafting my way to more, I do alright, but wish it wasn't just quickdraft exploring old sets because if you generally do alright in terms of record that's the worst one to play in terms of value. On the flip side, I don't get upset every time I draft badly or get blown out because it doesn't hurt that much, costs like 3 bucks and I draft once every couple of days. Problem with limited is though no wildcards, I've filled up the vault once with MKM.

@batsmak2506 2 ай бұрын

I'm not sure who the best limited gameplay content creators on KZbin are at the moment (I personally haven't watched limited in a while) but Deathsie and Voxy on twitch are both good and entertaining limited-focused players. Luis Scott Vargas aka LSV does some standard drafts and a LOT of cube drafts on KZbin and is one of the hosts of Limited Resources, a weekly draft-focused podcast that follows the progression of each standard draft format metagame.

@bencheevers6693 2 ай бұрын

@@batsmak2506 Thanks a lot for that, I like LSV and I'll check him out for sure, I was aware of Voxy because of Rarran but haven't watched her play limited

@Saint.Saint.Saint. 2 ай бұрын

:( Was hoping for an update to vannifar pod. Such an interesting deck, but it feels like it hasn’t changed since it was first thought up.

@JacoDeltaco 2 ай бұрын

35:00 they keep a one lander dont feel bad for them.

@MetalCovers69 2 ай бұрын

Trying to do something like this with the new satoru card

@CantEvenFly 2 ай бұрын

Esoteric duplicator with brain stone might get you the barain stone fix you're looking for

@brykanst9071 Ай бұрын

im a bit confused why when you had a portal to phyrexia in play you were targeting anything but it with the unyielding gatekeepers like even when the ability got countered could have just retargeted the portal with the second gatekeeper that was flipped instead of the opponents creature

@thas4250 2 ай бұрын

At this point, we know you better as Seth.

@cannonspectacle5195 2 ай бұрын

I liked when Den Protector was a Standard staple

@EJN64 2 ай бұрын

5:55 why not flicker portal again in response here ?

@RelaxWithRussellASMR 2 ай бұрын

Can you cloak instants and sorceries?

@RyanIcey 2 ай бұрын

I thought I clicked on the wrong video somehow when it opened with Family Guy XD

@RedPandaStan 2 ай бұрын

"Mkm wasnt that strong of a set" Modern:

@Logan-lz5gu 2 ай бұрын

I mean it really wasn't. The lands are fine but nothing game breaking.

@jacobp8306 2 ай бұрын

Honestly don't know how the goldfish crew can manage to find any joy playing vs the same 5 decks 3,000 times..

@bernardomarin5737 2 ай бұрын

Last year at Burning Man I played a draft mostly using Commander Masters but it was a mix. We decided all the cards such as Command tower, would add any color of your choice. First pick obscura interceptor and ended up on a 5-color-rare-picking deck. But man that Obscura alone won me 70% of the games 😁

@alaraplatt8104 2 ай бұрын

vannifar is a funny one. first she was black, then she was white, now she's like, gray-blue

@DroneConflict 2 ай бұрын

Punt city

@MitchPiotrowski 2 ай бұрын

Better wash your hands after that Gix touching

@heithrobinson996 2 ай бұрын

So what did we learn today? Your deck can stand a chance when you don't run in to 50 sunfalls, depopulates, and farewells...

@AllstateManlove 2 ай бұрын

Farewell rotating single handedly kept alchemy interesting, but they print a boardwipe every set now, and sunfall is still sunfall. Control is going to stay miserable for a while.

@hmvollbanane1259 2 ай бұрын

What do you mean? An instant speed board wipe that lets you disable all abilities of opponent's creatures seems totally like what the game needed. Or another "exile all versions of your opponent's win con" card, these very interactive cards are really fun to play against. I like not being able to play my cards.

@mathijs1987j 2 ай бұрын

28:21 It seems incorrect to cast Get Lost at sorcery speed here. You certainly got max punished with Gleeful Demolition into Immodane's Recruiter. But that play would not have been possible if you killed the Warleader's Call at the beginning of their combat.