The Most Powerful Couple in Ben 10

[@TheInkTank]

Score should be 14/25, not 13. Typo!

[@ATVPokemonMaster_02]

No worries bruv.

[@ATVPokemonMaster_02]

Although I was about to comment that 😂

[@erikpng]

For a moment you made me think I was stoopid.

[@bobbyahmad5197]

It’s ok

[@taimalwanni7500]

Whey Wait Of Comments? ON VIDEOS??

[@thomatho_s]

This episode broke my heart. Never really cared for Charmcaster before, and they suddenly drop two episodes were she's more than an antagonist and both end with her being emotionally destroyed

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

then people wonder why she went insane in OV

[@Juli_is_Online]

Then proceeded to completely ignore all of that and make her extremely boring once again for OV

[@thomatho_s]

Ah yes, the dichotomy of man: That's why she went insane in OV / Then they ignore all of it in OV

[@Wireseason3-4myfavficton]

​@@Juli_is_Online still ov charmcaster is more fun than uaf. uaf one tries to make me care about her but it really just doesn't work cause they suddenly give charmcaster a nice persona to justify her evil actions. It really does not work. She just feels cliche character. I have seen better morally gray-written characters than charmcaster

[@animo358]

@@thomatho_s because it would have been so logical and interesting to take Charmcaster there, but instead she's just seemingly on a Mana high and motivated by just power

[@AVSteve]

Having Michael guess Hope's name as "HEATHER" with such confidence and hesitation breaks me every single time. It's so funny

[@theking8347]

Heather actually is her name in the reboot.

[@armedweiss5531]

​@@theking8347 Wouldn't be surprised if that's a reference to Michael's blunder in trying to guess her name

[@trevoranthony3018]

Michael had to think long and her hard too so you think he would get it right but nah he was to busy stroking his large golden ego

[@allforone3427]

I always wanted Michael to be more elaborated on. He shows up multiple times in 3 different shows and yet everything we know about him is vague or just confusing.

[@moonwhooper]

Yes he was very interesting, shame he didn't get a full explanation of his origin

[@temidayobello1311]

@@moonwhooper true we know very little about his parents or even how he got his powers the writters do that a lot for secondary characters and villains they dont give us a clear origin for them

[@banjo9158]

-Appears on 3 different shows -Refuses to elaborate -Leave

[@temidayobello1311]

@@banjo9158 llol

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

@@banjo9158 lol

[@thomatho_s]

Loving the poetry of both of these Charmcaster episodes' finale. Her name is Hope, Michael forgets it and her father abandons her. By doing so she loses herself, loses all hope.

[@DigiWarriorCallum]

Kevin walking towards Darkstar with a crowbar despite already being coated in metal makes the visual funnier

[@thomasraines1396]

He doesn’t want to sully his hands on such a schmuck.

[@nitzan3782]

I think it needs to be mentioned that Gwevin's limitations are self-imposed. If either of them stopped being as attached to their humanity, they could do all Darkcaster could and more.

[@akashtopder7251]

Yep true. The amount of power Kevin can absorb is bonkers.

[@nitzan3782]

@- SageAegis - Using an artifact specifically designed to do just that. But I tend to agree, Kevin and Michael both have unlimited absorption potential, it's just that Kevin focuses on matter and Michael on Mana.

[@nitzan3782]

@- SageAegis - The Dominus was whole last time, and he likely only took enough out of Kevin to make it look like a cure artifact so he'll be tricked into leading Gwen to him, which worked, and Kevin broke it because he DID use it to absorb the Tennysons without limit right beforehand.

[@broccoo]

i love omniverse’s take on charmcaster because she always makes me laugh, but it’s still not worth sacrificing the arc they started for her. i love UAF charmcaster and i wish she got some kind of redemption.

[@Dorkyboi-1218]

It would have been amazing to see the dark trio with Charmcaster, Darkstar, and Albedo who would try to frame the trio for a slew of galactic crimes. They are each unstable in their own rights where Michael is a power hungry creep, Hope is trying to force a connection like Gwen has, Albedo emotionally is still too angry to think like a proper Galvan which causes irregular transformations. It also could demonstrate the level of trust the people of earth truly have with people like Harangue using it to reinforce the lack of faith. It can even get under Ben’s skin about how George was still in a sense right. George argues that he’s been doing this for over a millennium and has gathered almost complete trust that cannot be easily broken, Ben still being a kid only has trust when the world has a laser pointed at it and not with actual public relations. He’s treated like a celebrity but not someone of actual knowledge, experience and a level of authority. I would have traded the dream episode for that just so we can bring back the idea of George before the finale and Ben still struggling with the idea that he may be in over his head despite Vilgax, the Highbreed, Aggregor and more.

[@Misaka05050]

Having Albedo, Charmcaster and Darkstar as a trio sounds pretty interesting.

[@sandeepmahal-kp5em]

Fun fact Albedo was meant to be in this episode as well but Darkstar was not but honestly your Idea is better. Darkstar apparently was not going to come back in UA until they mentioned him in Enemy Of My Frenemy and the crew were like oh shit we forgot Michael. As for Night Of The Living Nightmare I don't know.

[@MADKapo]

I had a fanmade series in Ben 10 Fanon Wiki which was something like that, but it was more of a B-team for the heroes, with reformed villains. It had Charmcaster and Albedo but instead of Darkstar I put Aggregor because I was obsessed with his arc back in the day (I think I brought him back from the dead which some lame excuse lol).

[@HeartYgo]

Oh yeah, the SUCC guy, the spell girl, and the one with the watch.

[@johnnygyro2295]

Holy shit, that sounds like a hell of an episode. Maybe even a two parter.

[@infinityalbi9840]

Charmcaster: "What is it then? What's my name, Michael?" Me: "Hint: it's something you have none of now..."

[@interlegere5603]

I actually liked the Gwevin conflict in this episode. It shows that even the best couples can have their down moments, and in the end they do make up fairly easily. Plus, it’s meant to parallel how in the end, Kevin and Gwen still work out, but Michael and Hope do not.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Don't think the intent flew over his head.

[@trevoranthony3018]

I like couples who are not perfect but still love eachother

[@MarkHerrera24]

Yes, it does show that even the best couples can have their down moments, but the reasoning behind the arguing is just so unbelievable for their characters

[@levi0394]

Yea, like any couple who's been dating for over a few long months can argue about the smallest of things. It's only natural for that to happen.

[@ghostspider2056]

Micheal calling Charmcaster Heather is brought back in the Reboot. It doesn’t debunk that it’s her given name, but I like to think it isn’t and he’s just getting her name wrong again.

[@AutumnOwlex]

I love the line "Of course the first boy that's ever liked me" from charmcaster, it's such a human line but also shows the history and jealously between the two.

[@BeastForce141]

Michael and charmcaster just do a one night stand. 4 episodes to go.

[@aktivniigomes1989]

well, good for Michael, he banged a hot ruler of magic world

[@ardzzz1010]

I can't blame Michael. even Ben and Kevin used to think of her.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

0:53! At last!! OV's creative decisions are given credit!

[@sambrant9]

This episode has one of the most egregious cases of "we need to have more aliens show up." Cause there was literally no reason for Ben to be fourarms in that scene

[@awesomesofar5963]

i remember finding their episode absolutely fascinating at the time. on the one hand, charmcaster is so emotionally damaged that when this prince charming guy falls right into her lap, she probably *wants* to be in love with him. she wants this to be the perfect love story that takes away her loneliness. but from her history, we know she might well be using him. and darkstar is known as this manipulator, so when charmcaster jumps into his arms he'd probably consider her easy prey - but she's also so much more powerful and impressive than anyone he's ever met and she did save his life, so he may well actually be falling in love with her. the entire episode keeps you wondering whether they're genuinely in love or manipulating the other, from both sides of the relationship. and that dynamic is absolutely fascinating to me. and the best part is that they were both introduced and characterized this way prior to the episode, so it's just like two unrelated parts of the story that naturally connected to each other and fit together perfectly to make this incredibly interesting dynamic. fantastic storytelling overall.

[@nicodemusedwards6931]

2:25 Kevin with the crowbars fittin to bust Darkstar’s knees like they do on Chalybeas.

[@thomasraines1396]

He’s going to break his teeth like Commissioner Gordon did to the Joker at one point.

[@ghostchannel4766]

This is also one of my favorite "filler" episodes. I love how Michael is a manipulator through and through here, and it's played completely straight on the abusive boyfriend angle. I love how Charmcaster is genuinely looking for a partner in him. She falls into his trap, and like Gwen says, there's a part of her that knows it. The "nickname used so I don't have to know your real name" is also genius as it shows just how little he cares. It reflects real abusive partners well. Also Kuro, while I can see your point about the arguments being more petty, I also think it serves its purpose as a healthier side look at arguments too well. At the end of the day, Kevin and Gwen love each other, and they show it constantly. Even when they're fighting, it isn't truly to tear each other down. However, Charmcaster clearly is head over heels for Michael, but he couldn't care less about her. He only cares about what she could do for him, which is the insidious side to his compliments. He pretends to lift her up into the stratosphere with these honeyed words so she doesn't see when he's ransacking her home just below the clouds. It's a cover, and fortunately for her, it eventually gets blown. They are clearly the foil relationship. Not every fight means your partner doesn't love you, and not every compliment is a sign that you are being loved. Even their powers (mana manipulation + energy vampirism vs mana manipulate + absorption) are similar for this purpose. It's silly, but it certainly has a narrative purpose, and I think that can't be ignored.

[@temidayobello1311]

After re watching this episode and the previous charmcaster episode I've always wondered what about charmcaster's mother? We get no mention, implication or reveal of her existence we get some information on her father but not mother.

[@lonemotheo1964]

1:18 Always thought that Charmcaster was the one to teleported them..... They seemed pretty shocked to be back at the power plant

[@hattoripool1533]

I guess you can say Michael was trying to give Charmcaster that Morningdi-

[@helper_games]

I didnt know about the reason for his name being "morning star" so now that i do know i totally agree about the wings, maybe it could have started as a ball, pop into a wing form (like Caterpillars do) and then reverse when its going away

[@theking8347]

This episode DOES get referenced again during Charmcaster's arc in Omniverse, but only vaguely. Darkstar explains Charmcaster kicking him out Legerdomain to Gwen as if she wasn't there.

[@animo358]

Yea but Charmcaster should have been the one referencing it. This episode is about her, not him.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@@animo358 he's still involved though..

[@animo358]

@@GreaterGrievobeast55 He is, but no one cares about him anymore. He never evolved past "little shit" where as Charmcaster easily did

[@trevoranthony3018]

Darkstar probably lied

[@hert2458]

This episode was interesting to see Charmcaster care for someone, but also sad seeing her heart broken by Mike, really great character driven episode for Charmcaster imo

[@anishsingh2848]

I love this episode Its just sad for me I had the same issues like Charmcaster of loving the wrong people of trusting the wrong person of ignoring all signs of their real anture no matter how obvious those signs were just because I cared for them too much or I was in love with the idea of them but not truly them seeing how like Hope I can never learn to love again or trust again this episode just breaks my heart Charmcaster was a good person but like with Team Rocket in Pokemon regardless of how much good she was she ended up being a bad person and committed to the path of evil simply because of the bad things that happened to her in her life

[@KuroAceVT]

This was an episode I would’ve loved a full breakdown on but hey, i ain’t complaining

[@bensonabernathy4664]

3:32 Jeez that's pretty bad. The crystals phase in and out. That's not how Diamondhead's power works. His powers work by growing the crystals.

[@MidoriNatsume]

I'm gonna love how in a couple of years, when we arrive at the breakdown of the next appearance of Charmcaster in Omniverse, people are gonna be confused ok why Kuro is gonna call her "Hope". 😅

[@blakethebeast3174]

Hope can't catch a break, when she returned in Omniverse I instantly that she was broken so bad she went a little crazy. Can't blame her.

[@enderethan144]

A part of me wishes she was redeemed. If it wasn’t for her insanity and egomania getting in the way.

[@markshaw3711]

@@enderethan144 Don't forget the literal genocide she committed.

[@enderethan144]

@@markshaw3711 I definitely haven’t forgotten about that. As a kid I hated that episode because the main trio freaking dies in it.

[@architchibbar]

An interesting analogy to compare the powers of these 2 couples would be Dark side vs light side in Star wars. Charm gaster and Morningstar have the power without any limitations and restrictions( like the dark side), while Gwen and Kevin have to follow their ethics and heart ( Similar to the light side of force users)

[@auditect950]

I think that analogy would work with most good vs. evil frameworks.

[@architchibbar]

@@auditect950 yes agree, but the way kuro mentioned at the start, reminded me instantly of Star Wars

[@TheScarletSlayer]

I've always been a hardcore fan of villain couples so it's always a major disappointment when it doesn't work out.

[@gammaf1365]

this episode made me imagine: "what if the second arc of UA was about the ledgerdomain and charmcaster?"

[@ardzzz1010]

I would actually love to see charmcaster help the trio against dagon.

[@thomasraines1396]

@@ardzzz1010 that would’ve been cool.

[@ATVPokemonMaster_02]

Darkcaster or Charmstar is arguably the most interesting Ship which never properly developed. If they were gonna go full evil on both of them , then at least they should have been a couple.

[@ryanwiebe4096]

I Found One Moment In This Episode To Be Pretty Funny. In the Second Half,Charmcaster and Michael Prepare To Kiss Again So Michael Can Get More Energy,But Before They Can Get To Second Base, Ben,Gwen,and Kevin Are Just There Watching Them. That's F***ing Hilarious. What If They Didn't Notice?

[@thomasraines1396]

Oh god.

[@Jack-sy8mr]

3:33 ugh that shot of Diamondheads crystals just, fading in so bad

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

also them just appearing out of nowhere

[@axelnilsson5124]

I remember watching the opening of this episode thinking “Charmcaster is alive?” Because I completely missed enemy of my frenemy

[@theking8347]

Also Gwen says in this episode that she went on a few dates with Michael, even though it was only one.

[@somehelluvafanboy8357]

Shippers be goin crazy with this one ngl Especially fanartists

[@ATVPokemonMaster_02]

I really wanted Charmcaster to find HOPE inside her. Both metaphorically and literally. 😢

[@mrevilducky]

Aye yoo

[@kadenharley8232]

That was another thing I didn't like about Ben 10: Omniverse!! But then again, Omniverse is its own show (at least in my perspective). 😓

[@yashbjoshi12]

@@kadenharley8232 Dude dont blame omniverse, This episode and enemy of my frenemy give enough reasons for charmcaster to stay evil in omniverse.

[@kadenharley8232]

@@yashbjoshi12 . . . I don't get it 🙂.

[@SoRandom31]

@@yashbjoshi12 Respectfully, I disagree. I see where you're coming from when you say that, but I’ve always gotten the impression that both of those episodes were made to get the audience to sympathize with Charmcaster so that we'd be more receptive to the idea of her eventually getting to redeem herself. Sure, you could retroactively justify her characterization in Omniverse by saying that the pain from those two episodes prompted her behavior, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that was the intended direction. Moreover, the argument of "don't blame Omniverse" just doesn't really make sense to me. The Omniverse crew had complete control over the decisions they made aside from any limitations or demands imposed by the network. Why shouldn't they be blamed for how they decided to handle Charmcaster?

[@juliansummers5983]

1:08 I always assumed that it was charmcaster kicking them out.

[@diamond3749]

This was the episode that stayed with me the most I Really think about it randomly now and then

[@ATVPokemonMaster_02]

Again I'm saying this. We got numerous Charmcaster stories but i really wanted a *HOPE* episode😢❤.

[@TheInkTank]

Facts

[@brainstorm006]

I only watched half of the Omniverse and I don't remember what Charmcaster becomes there. I have seen a bit of clips of her. But if this ties that she become such a character in Omniverse because of this, then it makes sense. I can't wait for Ominverse breakdowns. Even tough its not my favorite B10 franchise, I am willing to watch it.

[@Mono_Nerd_Production]

Fun fact, this is the last ep Jetray is in, later fly boy

[@theking8347]

Yep, Jetray gets tossed in the dumpster alongside Fasttrack and Chamalien.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

One of the main reasons why those aliens didn't get to reappear is because around season 6 of ov CN decided to stop adding on aliens to the series so no more new aliens or old ones because it was getting hard to make toys so if they didn't already appeared in ov then they wouldn't appear

[@_Tzer]

3:11 that actually fits with him being named after lucifer. His weakness is pride/vainglory

[@sagittariusneptune9330]

2:24 Kevin with a pry bar 🤣.

[@itsmenobody3837]

and this episode have the last appearance of jetray in the entire franchise

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

I thought that was last episode?

[@itsmenobody3837]

@@GreaterGrievobeast55 yup

[@lonemotheo1964]

This episode always reminded me of that old destiny child song Say my name.... Were the protagonist boyfriend keeps calling her baby and beautiful but never calls by her real name while constantly using and abusing her

[@Joyoboyogomu]

i’m glad you’ve been accurate with how the quality of ultimate alien really fell apart towards its ends. so disappointing :/

[@georgehiscott700]

0:58 I mean they did got away with the scene where Eunice was naked in the opening of episode "The transmogrification of Eunice". I know that the scene was censored but still tho

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Oh wow, some how had no idea this happened, and surprised it took this long for it now that i know it did lol. Sounds like a fun watch though, always down for Charmcaster action. Sad to hear it sounds like Omniverse really derails her character though. Gonna have to see for sure when time comes

[@dagon7259]

I think I somehow didn't get to watch this episode so I was genuinely caught of guard on the clip you showed of Charmcaster with just her undershirt instead of her usual outfit. I'm genuinely surprised that slipped in but also further emphasizes how toxic their relationship is where they're really just using each other and how Charmcaster just really wants to feel love. Ngl her two character centered episodes and both of them ends with her having a bad ending just leaves a sour taste. Its heartbreaking but also kinda relatable in a way, it may not relate to you personally but you can maybe relate it to someone you know.

[@kazion4851]

For me I felt it was a suitable end to both characters. Even the environment with dark Star at the end was very similar to his first episode when he faced Ben Gwen and kevin.

[@rickyk4583]

It's the Power Plant, which IS the same place they first fought him in Alien Force. It's like the third time they've fought there lol

[@jlion2439]

Times like this is when the "Ghost with the most Freak" comes in handy (Hopefully someone gets the Omniverse reference).

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

"So far so good"

[@andrewleyton6689]

Not going to lie I thought the title was him joking with the couple thing

[@anthonyvillanueva5226]

Most powerful couple is Albedo and Chili Fries

[@transyuri4534]

"High on Mana" was something I herd completely differently until I realized you meant high as in high in amount.

[@thomasraines1396]

Morningstar is basically a crack addict, not only does he need that “fix” but he legitimately enjoys it.

[@Killa-backup132]

I wanted to see this as a full breakdown dammit😭😭😭😭

[@SplashCity46]

I always thought it was Charmcaster who teleported them out. Since she ruled the domain, I figured she would have the power to do so. She got them out so she could rip into Darkstar alone.

[@spacewidetraveller9465]

Anyone else notice the title of the episode at the top left was for the previous episode up until 0:27?

[@FamousGames111]

Hey Kuro just finished doing rewatch throughs of both Ben 10 and Danny Phantom so I could read all of 5YL (had a great time reading btw can’t wait for Chapter 13 keep up the great work) but I had so much fun watching Danny Phantom again that show ended way to soon and you could tell there was so much untapped potential left in it by the end but anyway was wondering if post Ben 10 breakdowns if there’d be potential for 5YL’s other half to get the same treatment

[@sharplosion1]

Honestly I wish Micheal had a bit more nuance. Like him actually reciprocating Charmcaster's feelings, but either caught up in revenge or drunk on power. Throughout the episode he doesn't really ever seem like he's genuinely into her beyond the power. I feel after all the other episodes with him always ending up betraying for the sake of more power, it's about time he get fleshed out a bit more as a person rather than a villain, not unlike Charmcaster herself. Hell, part of me even thought some of the blame would be put on Charmcaster given she knowingly let Micheal go back with very limited power, showing that she had essentially made him dependent on her and her mana. I think it could've been far more interesting having both not only having genuine feelings for each other, but also using the other in a complex, honestly toxic relationship that could've been improved and built upon with time, and the two could've been a dangerous powercouple, and yet also end up helping both of them move past their villainous tendencies.

[@theinnerhollow3006]

It was this episode that truly changed my mind on Charmcaster towards liking her and having her as practically my favorite female villain of the verse. Was even an influence for my own Ben 10 fanfic au where I do redeem her and have her joining the trio in that verse come full circle.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

does she still Do mass genocide in that AU?

[@theinnerhollow3006]

Overall her arc is the same, though with some added stuff with the MC here and there to develop some things that get hunkered down after the rejection of her father(where the mc learns her name thanks to a cosmic alteration to his being due to an alteration in fighting Ultimate Aggragor in the forged of creation) and then a big rageful brawl occurs between Dark Star and the mc when he learns that Dark Star insulted her by not remembering her name and ends with his confession towards her. Should note that at the moment this au is still in big developments as I'm formatting how I want to build both the current and new arcs and what things are getting altered for the verse(currently going with alien force and ultimate alien form of Osmosians and an altered atomix at minimum thus far)

[@CheezsterYT]

DarkCaster.... has a nice ring to it

[@VidelxSpopovich]

I like Mike. Interesting villain concept I feel unfortunately wasn’t explored enough.

[@Athesies]

Darn it, I didn't know darkstar showed up in omniverse! I was so close to watching that episode before this review too lol

[@lastace5422]

So Darkstar is the cause that charmcaster goes crazy in omniverse

[@ProvidenceRex]

An interesting episode. Was going to note the score being wrong since I use Excel when noticing stuff being off, but since you noted it, got nothing else to say about this one.

[@bobbyahmad5197]

Darkstar really messed up, and Gwen…. Two dates with Micheal? Where was the second one what happened there?

[@thomasraines1396]

We didn’t see it but apparently it happened.

[@bobbyahmad5197]

@@thomasraines1396 uh huh

[@thomasraines1396]

@@bobbyahmad5197 it’s weird because the episode seems to take place over the course of like a day or two, so realistically there would be no time for a “second date”.

[@bobbyahmad5197]

@@thomasraines1396 maybe it was offscreen before this happened

[@thomasraines1396]

@@bobbyahmad5197 it had to have happened when they first met him before he revealed himself to be an energy stealing schmuck but again the episode only took place seemingly over a few days.

[@MistaShadowman]

Now I kinda want to hear the 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' tune when Morningstar screws up Charmcaster's name in the full review xD

[@curtisleblanc5897]

1:15 I mean, Maybe Hope teleported them out because she needed some alone time to chew out Michael.

[@blueraccoon1088]

Chew? More like feed him to the sharkdromands (shark manas I came up with in a river of mana and another equivalent of water)

[@jaysilverhood1264]

Yall ever realized Vilgax and Animo never properly met besides that one future episode?

[@thegoblin4948]

Man really called her "Heather" lol

[@CHARDRICJOSHPROJAS]

I really liked this episode, it made me want to cheer for Charmcaster to have a redemption arc. I don't mean where she becomes good and join Ben and his team as heroes but more on that she changes how she rules ledgerdomain and be a fair ruler to her kingdom or she could choose an alternative where she freely gives her kingdom to someone else to rule justly and Charmcaster becomes a somewhat wonderer that travels the multiple realms and help anyone she meets, kinda like a doctor who situation but you know... with magic

[@thomasraines1396]

It would be nice if she became sort of a nomad.

[@calvinmatthews1527]

I wouldn't mind if you gave these last four episodes full breakdowns dude. I want your content to last as long as possible.

[@aktivniigomes1989]

I would like that too, but Kuro is busy guy, he has a schedule

[@axelnilsson5124]

It probably will happen anyways because we usually get full breakdowns on Saturdays

[@RaphielShiraha64]

I think he's trying to rush it since he's near the end of the series.

[@randydandytube]

Finally catched up with the breakdowns

[@filipvadas7602]

This episode honestly shows just how much potential both Charmcaster and Michael had as characters. For the former it genuenly seems that every time the writers are *about to* take her character in some really interesting places they conoletely rebrand her or set her back to 0 And for the latter, the foundation of his character is fantastic. The "fallen angel" symbolism of his character combined with him being a parasyte both literally and figuratively makes for a cool dualistic antagonist, but it genuenly seems like they never actually *do* anything with him.

[@thomasraines1396]

It’s honestly really sad.

[@Blue5Standingby]

One thing I find funny about this episode is Ben is just casually forearms for like no reason. Was there a deleted scene or something?.

[@eldiegollador7271]

Poor Charmcaster...

[@tuliobednarczukpecinemisko5606]

I like that the reboot revisits this idea of Darkstar and Charmcaster together,

[@GenerationWest]

I'm completely forgot about it was implied Charmcaster and Morningstar slept together. Out of the blatant implied moments I remember, it was "To Catch A Falling Star" with Jennifer, even though you could just say she only dyed and cut her hair in the shower only.

[@ghostchannel4766]

What are the odds I'd find you twice? I'm sure it's annoying for you, so I won’t respond again. With that being said, I honestly forgot about it, too, lol. Somehow, that slipped by me.

[@randomaussie8498]

Always loved this episode, Darkstar is my favourite villain in the franchise and Charmcaster is pretty up there too

[@stupidvoiceofreason]

That mislayering at Charmcaster in the end tho

[@AshKaijin]

The Morningstar wings idea makes so much sense

[@ProfessorPrel]

For the first 30 seconds, it says the episode is called «The eggman cometh»

[@SamsaranRapture]

she really needed a redemption ark.

[@christianparrish3292]

It's actually arc

[@bobbyahmad5197]

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[@christianparrish3292]

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[@bobbyahmad5197]

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[@yashbjoshi12]

This episode and enemy of my frenemy give enough reasons for charmcaster to remain evil in omniverse

[@emred4653]

Charmcaster is so pretty and beautiful. I wish she appeared more in the series

[@willschmidt8284]

This episode made me want to bleach my eyes so bad

[@anubhavkumarc]

"The Eggman Cometh"

[@aqn01]

Michael: wants more power gets a girl bangs her denies relationship leaves her refuses to elaborate

[@blueraccoon1088]

And totally fragged up

[@aspentheworld]

omg we're so close to omniverse now!!!!

[@MrMoustache144]

I feel like this epsiode along with the one where she brought her father back led to charm casters character change in omniverse this was the last straw that broke her

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

someone who gets it

[@calx8871]

This was definitely an enjoyable filler ep of UA for me, purely for the Hope and Michael stuff and seeing Ledgerdomain again

[@ХристинаДенева-щ1л]

00:01-00:30 The title is *the eggman cometh".

[@10yearsspinning]

At the end when she looks at his helmet on the ground it hit me hard

[@ravindupadmanath2802]

Soooo.... are we not gonna address the MASSIVE elephant in the room. You know the AGE GAP of these characters dating. Like in classic series both Ben and Gwen are 10 while Charmcaster is at least in her mid to late teen years. Then, in AF, when ben and Gwen are 15, applying that charmcaster should be at least in her early to mid-20s alongside Micheal was flirting with Gwen meaning he had to be around the same age as her (plus in his debut episode he said that the "zombie" girls had the same uniform from his school further applying he's still a high-schooler) But then in UA, that takes place a year later we see Darkstar and Charmcaster full on dating. So either Micheal is even more of creep and a liar, the people of Legerdomain age differently or charmcaster is the creep.

[@flarestorm9417]

Well, no one said that Michael or Charmcaster were good people. It would fit Michael's character to be a creep like that given that he sucks the life force out of his ex-girlfriends.

[@MrShadowSmith]

No charmcaster is 5 years older than ben. Ben is 16 in UA meaning charmcaster is 21. Michael looks to be around Kevin's age who's probably 18. Their age gap is not that big. Michael could be older since he absorbs life from people to stay young and powerful. He is a liar and creep either way he was caught thirsting for Gwen's powers that's all he cares about.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@@MrShadowSmith Kevin's not 18. Don't know where you're getting that from.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

@@MrShadowSmith Kevin was 11 in the og series. he's seemingly 17 in Ua

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Characters ages are like continuity in Ben 10.

[@justinmyers7587]

This couple literally survived the reboot

[@prestongiles9917]

Pour one out for Ultimate Humungousaur's final U.A. appearance and his classic design. 🍺

[@dwightnorton3398]

Great / ok episode

[@vgngolley341]

Definitely loved this episode and, like you, I didn’t like Gwen and Kevin arguing. I’m okay with them having relationship problems but here? It just seems rather childish and Gwen acting so freaking petty. This feels like an argument that Ben and Julie will have than Gwen and Kevin, who have an actual healthy and strong relationship

[@NobodyMan0]

Michael is still only the second worst sparkly vampire love interest I’ve seen.