The Muslim's Muhammad, is really the Jewish Machmad!

Paul has found that once you understand the Arabic spelling of the name 'Muhammad' in the 7th century, it is read Mahmet, or 'Mahammad', which can be found in various places in the Bible, but is they are nor references to a prophet living in the 7th century, but to something much different.
Follow Paul as he introduces the much earlier Jewish Mahammad...
© Pfander Centre for Apologetics - US, 2021
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[@gilbertjones9157]

The perfection of preservation, the perfection of connection, the perfection of understanding, the perfection of perfect recitation, all of it results in the perfection of fiction.

[@euttdsiggh2783]

Perfection of arabic language too

[@asdsad7476]

So you unwantedly proved as muslims claim that the name of their prophet is in bible. That arabic is one of the language of semitic branch family goes without saying. But, incidentally not all verses of koran related to bible mythologies, other mythologies have significant role in making koran as scattered clay tablets in an archeology site, that is a verse or set of verses are taken from ancients culture and religions. Nevertheless, religion makers know how to make a new religion in right time in a right place and in a right culture. By the way, muhammad is neither arabic nor hebrew but a combination of two Indo-European root language. Mahamada is one of the great god of hindus myths. Mah has two meaning, moon and big or great. Mad means a drunkard animals especially cows, bulls, horses, donkeys and camels during sexual arousing. The birth of muhammad has been attributed to mythology as other religions do for their founder, in ibn ishaq account (abdu)lah(sun, heaven) mingled with a goddess (a)minah(moon, earth) giving birth to mahamada(cow-drunkard).

[@gilbertjones9157]

@@asdsad7476 How does one's birth 4 years after death of claimed father be real? The name attributed to the messenger is not a name for a person. It does have meaning for a place or idea. Arabic has two source regions, Arabia Petrus or Arabia Felix. AP in written form is associated with Aramaic had no diacritical marks and has unique syntax usage also found in the Quran plus the diacritical marks were added in sometime in the 8th century. AF in written form has diacritical marks but lacks the unique syntax usage. Arabia Deserta did not have the population numbers that could influence anything. If we have the copies of unique stories contained in the Quran but are 200 to 400 years older and in complete construction beginning to end where the Quranic stories are truncated, which are on the clay tablets in heaven? What is put forward in this video is that the Hebraic words are Hebraic existing prior to Arabic and their have root meaning completely different than what has been put forward in Arabic. An example of the difference: Rio in Spanish is River. It does not morph into Ice or mud.

[@asdsad7476]

@Konstantin Ridaya one of my troublesome is that I rarely copy and paste, secondly, when a copy snd paste has reality in why copy snd paste must be condemned.

[@asdsad7476]

@@gilbertjones9157 1-there is no a correct time and place in koran and hadith both of them are controversial. 2- most of our names are from historical personage or mythological god and goddess. 3- language sources have never defined by a fixed place or one fixed people just conversely it is very movable from time to a time and from a place to another. 4- there are many verses that when the so called messenger saying a story to arabian wise, they said to him what you say are ancient myth if we wanted we could say better than yours. there are many verses that have nothing to do with bible myths but it goes farther to india, persian, sumerian, greek from Homer to Herodotus to egypt and other dwellers of desert. 5-desert and population have scattered population when gathering in a special place and a definite time they make a large number of population that can change the world upside_down genghis khan us a secondary good example in history after arab bedouin tribes aggression. finally your last paragraph assertion is wrong regarding languages you can not say this language is older when about fifty percent if not be exaggerated is from persian language.

[@watchman4todayreloaded192]

Glad that KZbin put this up under my suggestions again. Now I can remember that it was the Seleucids who brought elephants to Jerusalem not just a fairy tale story of elephants miraculously coming to Mecca through hundreds of miles of desert without water or pasture. I love Paul's work on the Jerusalem ... I don't even want to keep calling it a theory, it seems so clear. The Mountains of Moriah and Scopus being the real Marwa and Safa and the hagg pilgrimages being the original hajj all seem so clear especially when the 'mountains' in Mecca are mere piles of rocks around 20 feet high inside an air-conditioned building.

[@gazgaffa8437]

Hope hatun is well after todays attack, pray for her

[@paulellis5101]

Absolutely. She us an extraordinary example of courage to us all.

[@peacock69mcp]

Yes. God bless Hatun. Death to Islam.

[@MohammadAliKhalil]

@@peacock69mcp Death to pagan Christianity

[@MohammadAliKhalil]

@@paulellis5101 🤣 hahahaha don’t make me laugh. Hatun is a trash human being maybe she’s exactly like Jesus? 🤔 hatun and Jesus, so that’s how your Jesus acts? Slanders people religion and book?

[@gazgaffa8437]

@@MohammadAliKhalil she got her mannerisms off her parents who are Islamic

[@ygcg8696]

Borrow everything from them but still hate them the most !😬

[@neo3768]

duplicate want to erase all original so it could claim itself as original and take all glory and benefit the original

[@gueguense8258]

@Ya Ma You wrote so much yet you did not make sense. Muhammad was a murderer and a breaker of the 10 commandments of God, so no, he CANNOT be a prophet of God.

[@neo3768]

@@gueguense8258 kuran is from god and still doesn't know what Trinity is ,acording to kuran God the Father,Jesus the son and Mary makes the Trinity, what nonsense is that ,the ignorant is the author of kuran

[@mkamalarahman5639]

Borrowed? They are bothers, Ismael and Isaac. Did you read the OT? Ignorant?

[@neo3768]

@@mkamalarahman5639 proves that Mohammad is from ishmel side? Anyone can claim something like that

[@danieladedosugbadero7373]

Deeper inquiries are proving over and over again that SIN is false and Moh is but a fictional character.

[@ConservativeArabNet]

Digging in history with digital tools is uncovering amazing points

[@mahmoodali1533]

When it is done by neutral historians that maybe correct, but when it done by lying christian missionaries, you just get lies an fabrications. Tell me what did Jay Smith discover? 1-He started saying Abbasid invented Islam when confronted with evidence, he abandoned that and started claiming Mu'awiya started Islam. When confronted with evidence, he again abandoned that and started claiming abdulmalik started Islam, then again went to claim Iyas ibn Qabisah, and now he wend down to claim Umar was , actually, prophet Muhammad. And since he reached Umar probably the next step will be abubakr and the last step he will reach the conclusion that the Islamic traditional narrative is correct and prophet Muhammad existed and he was the founder of Islam.

[@Jijicookingchannel]

Yeah you are right digging in history of Judaism and Christianity with digital tools UNCOVERING AMAZING POINTS TOO.

[@TingTong2568]

@@mahmoodali1533 these are all thesis, you fool. Nothing is solid proof yet.

[@ldswife5339]

So many holes in the narrative

[@preapple]

Truth. Courage. Resilience. The ability to share ideas without fear. These are the building blocks of any free and open society.

[@aemiliadelroba4022]

Again we knew this long time ago that Muhammad real name was not Muhammad! It may be a ref to something else , a title , but not his real name .

[@alphainitium5737]

Qathem ibn abd'lah

[@P.H.888]

Muhammid ~ The Praised One!

[@jameslevara8027]

The.Muslim is trying to avoid Psalm 147:19-20 in which stated that the Word of God is delivered through Israel....

[@nazeemsultan123]

This is so dumb How were the words of God delivered before israel?

[@tsbkzwct2474]

@Isaac Abraham muhammad wasn't a Jew. That's the problem. Stop taking someone else culture and religion, making a stupefied version of it and then telling them back we are one of you and going around acting like you people know it all. *Cringe*

[@mahmoodali1533]

@@tsbkzwct2474 The insanity is believing that Adam the father of the humanity who God created him by his own and, and spoke to him and then sent him to earth just left him without book or instructions and if he gave him book and instruction to worship him, he still not a prophet simply because he was not a jew. The insanity to believe that God Spoke To Noah in the old testament same like he spoke to Moses and ordered him to built the ark and ordered him to take from every living animals two pair and then God destroyed the whole earth and only saved Noah and his household and then claim that Noah is neither prophet nor a messenger. The Insanity is to believe that God talked to Abraham and Abraham still was not prophet or messenger or even to believe that Abraham was a jew. It is insanity to believe that God sent two angel that talked to Lot and saved him and still lot is not a prophet or messenger. The insanity is to believe that Jonah was a Jewish prophet and then God sent him to non Jewish people who do not even speak Hebrew to and why even God bother to sent a prophet to a non Jewish people.

[@pinklady7184]

Nazeem Sultan Prophet Muhammad's daughter has a *LATIN* name, so Muhammad might have named his daughter after some Roman lady who was in Israel. Lots of Roman women were called Fatima, so how did Muhammad's daughter get the Latin name? Muhammad must have been in Israel once colonised by Romans and so he gave his daughter the Latin name, probably for her future security. That could mean Muhammad founded Islam in Israel.

[@pinklady7184]

Tsbk Zwct Muhammad might have been a Roman and he wore a Roman shirt. He was a *WHITE MAN,* according to the aHadith (or Hadiths). Moreover, his daughter has a *LATIN* name: Fatima. In other words, Muhammad was not an Arab. He was an advanced *WHITE MAN* sot easily misunderstood by Arab philistines, who were backward by white Roman standards. This is no wonder why Arabs like Umar have much misinterpreted Muhammad's teachings over the centuries.

[@grahamford3468]

Very compelling, Paul. It makes the most sense to me. I would like to see a statistical analysis of the ancient Qibla directions to see if they point more to Jerusalem or Petra.

[@grahamford3468]

They point to Jerusalem or Petra .

[@paulellis5101]

Thank you. I think Joe and others have completely shaken my faith in the prospect of Gibson's attempt to comprehensively analyse qiblas yielding clear results. To me there seems to be too much information and too much scope for imprecision for certainty. It's like those cards psychiatrists use in movies. People see what they want. I would make a couple of observations, though. First, of all the qiblas, 3 seem to me of particular interest. Two are the Dome of the Chain and the Church of the Kathisma. Both of these do appear to point to Petra. However, I see no evidence that the dominant early Arab conquerors (630-690) were devotees of Muhammad or the Qur'an. On the contrary, I suspect that they tried hard to bury Islam. They may well have killed Muhammad and all of his companions and destroyed the canonical archetype of the Qur'an and all the regional codices If so this would explain why third generation copies would have become items of popular appeal, but detached from those who knew their original meaning. In this scenario, what qibla, if any, these conquerors built their buildings towards tells us 0 about the meaning of the Qur'an. My second observation is that the third qibla that I think much about is the Ayla mosque, possibly the first Quran-related qibla, which appears to point to Mt Sinai. Sinai is the only definite placename mentioned in the earliest surahs, and I wonder if this may be the 'difficult' qibla that the Qur'an abandons. The layout of the mosque even fits the idea of a dramatic 180° reorientation during prayers as per the legend. But this is, obviously, speculative.

[@ausonius100]

This is so great! The Jerusalem-centric way of thinking by the arabs of the 7th century fits perfectly with the Dome on the rock and the notions of a rebuilding of the Temple.

[@Frst2nxt]

But the people of Jerusalem didn't expect the general of Umar to invade Bethlehem on the way over to Jerusalem. They heard of that earlier invasion with startled consternation and took the following invasion of Jerusalem with great dread. This is all undoubted fact. How could islam be from Jerusalem? Only Catholic Christians were using the temple mount for the daily sacrifice of the mass. This was when the east/west schism was yet centuries away, and all churches now called eastern orthodox were still Catholic, including in Arabia. Nothing fits with the presumption that islam began outside of Arabia. Everyone outside of Arabia, including in Jordan and Syria and Mesopotamia, were surprised by the suddenly appearing muslims. Only Arabia could have facilitated the secrecy of the formation of islam and the planning made. Had islam formed outside of Arabia, no Arab would have let muslims take the nearly all Catholic Arabic peninsula.

[@ausonius100]

@@Frst2nxt There were no "muslims" or "Islam" in the traditional sense until the Abbasids formed this religion from the 9th century onwards. The byzantines had been kicked out of Jerusalem by the arabs during the late 630s, so whatever they did or did not want to happen in the city was simply of no consequence to its new arab masters.

[@Frst2nxt]

@Konstantin Ridaya Sofronius was the Bishop of the See of Jerusalem, and was not an Arian. Do you have a contemporary patristic claim to the effect that Arians were in Jerusalem? If, in the vacuum left by the Christian majority of Arab men defending the Roman empire against the Persian, islam found less men present to stop them from killing the old, and any males left behind, and rape women and claim children, then this would be the only possible bubble zone for the formation of something that so took the world by surprise. Arians that had been infiltrated by Manichaeans pursued Christians into the Hijaz, and the polytheists there were an even worse nightmare that caught the fleeing Catholics. That was the case as far back as the Vandal siege on Carthage in which Augustine of Hippo died. There's no Christian version of the quran, no prototype. It's full of spontaneity that includes some inaccurately recalled random details of heretical teachings and stories mixed with the author's own sexual desires. It fits perfectly with the sleep paralysis from which muhammad frequently derived "revelations". Isolated in the Arabic peninsula, itself still partly left under Byzantine law, with attention turned elsewhere away from it, with many Arab Christian soldiers still garrisoned far away to repair cities destroyed by Persia, the original core muslims would be an entity unknown except in their own cordoned off vicinity. No one would have heard of muhammad outside of his initial stolen domain.

[@Basaljet]

@@Frst2nxt what is your evidence for suggesting that Christian worship was happening in the Temple Mount prior to Islam? Christian worship focussed on the holy sepulchre and Anastasia close by. Is there any evidence that any significant Christian structure was on the Temple Mount? No doubt Christians we’re drawn to the place but it does not relate to the crucifixion or resurrection of Jesus.

[@Frst2nxt]

@@Basaljet The two mosques there were both called the Church of St. Mary. The larger was the earlier, and still shows Byzantine era wood wall layers from hundreds of years earlier. The first mosques were generally stolen, reapropriated Churches. The octagonal base that they added the dome onto originally had no inscriptions and was octagonal as was standard on Chuches name of St. Mary. The smaller building was made after the larger had been ruined by the Zoroastrians, and was an interim Church. And none of those Christians used Arabic script or knew Arabic. They knew Greek and Aramaic. Umar at first gave his word in a seven year "peace" treaty, to not steal the Churches, but halfway into that seven year run, beheaded Sefronios and started making them islamic mosques.

[@som9097]

You are doing great work.

[@tyh3120]

Apocalypse 21/9 The new Jerusalem= the spouse of the Messiah. Apocalypse 21/22 no Temple in the City, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are it’s temple.

[@ngashmir]

Hi Dr. Jay & Paul? Loving your work and the insights it's yielding. I look forward to your videos daily. I have always suspected that the name Muhammad is the Arabic equivalent of the Jewish name David. The name David seems to have the meaning of BELOVED/ MY BELOVED ONE. The current trajectory that the conversation is yielding seems to be suggesting something in that direction. NB: I am referring to the meaning of the names and not the direct equivalent translation.

[@sebastianyoon8051]

If I am not mistaken, the Arabic version of David is "Daud".

[@ravindersidhu7655]

An excellent video....an eye opener

[@paulellis5101]

Thank you.

[@haimanhammo1705]

I wish to add the verse from Haggai 2:7 as support for the use of makhmet to refer to the temple and it’s true fulfilment Christ Jesus. In Arabic it is the word Mushtaha meaning ‘desire of’: وَأُزَلْزِلُ كُلَّ الأُمَمِ. وَيَأْتِي مُشْتَهَى كُلِّ الأُمَمِ، فَأَمْلأُ هذَا الْبَيْتَ مَجْدًا، قَالَ رَبُّ الْجُنُودِ. (حجي ٢: ٧)

[@P.H.888]

Jesus’ water baptism Holy Spirit baptism simultaneously 🕊 then after defeating the devil’s in the wilderness after 40 days fasting was again filled with The Holy Spirit 🔥 Dunamis Power! Then His Transfiguration up on The Mountain Top! On The 3rd Day His Glorious Victorious Resurrection

[@Polynuttery]

A summary of your case would be good at this stage !

[@nihilonisicruce6843]

Question for Jay and Paul. Can you show us the passages in the qu'ran where the word mahmet is used and how an alternative meaning of Jesus/the temple fits in the narrative?

[@Frst2nxt]

Especially if it's in fact only the Ahmed verse, which name, though coming from the same root, is a completely different name and word and meaning than Muhammad..

[@paulellis5101]

Good question. The word that is conventionally rendered as ’muḥammad‘ and conventionally treated as the personal name of the Qurʾan’s announcer appears in four verses: {3.144}: ‘Muḥammad is naught but a messenger; messengers have passed before him …’ {33.40}: ‘Muḥammad is not the father of any man amongst you; rather he is the … seal of the prophets’ and {47.2}: ‘Those who believe and perform righteous deeds, and believe in what has been sent down unto Muhammad-and it is the truth from their Lord …’ and {48.29}: ‘Muḥammad is the messenger of God...’ I would say that two of these contain indications that it is in fact Jesus who is the person being referred to. The opening words of {3.144} - ‘Muḥammad is naught but a messenger; messengers have passed before him’ - replicates verbatim words that describe Jesus in {5.75}: ‘The Messiah, son of Mary is naught but a messenger; messengers have passed before him’. The phrase ‘naught but a messenger’ by itself challenges the mistaken belief that the person concerned was more than a prophet. But, as Edouard Gallez asks, if the passage relates to the Qurʾan announcer, ‘What else could he be?’ The statement in {33.40} that ‘muḥammad‘ is the ‘seal of the prophets’ is also more apposite to Jesus than the Qurʾan announcer. This phrase is normally treated as a straightforward claim that Muhammad is the final prophet but the symbolism of the attachment of a seal to a document conveys a more profound idea than merely the final act in bringing it into existence. A seal confirms authenticity and lends authority to a document’s contents. It transforms those contents from a mere arrangement of words to being the solemn statement of the sealer. Here again the image seems more Christian than Islamic. In the Christian theology, Jesus’s death and resurrection are treated by Christians as fulfilling the law and the prophets, that had previously been provisional and imperfect. In the Qurʾan, however, even if the announcer of the words is God’s final prophet and a prophet for the Ishmaelites, it is hard to construe in what sense the Qurʾan announcer could have understood himself to be lending authority retrospectively to those prophets sent to other peoples in bygone times. The reference to Muhammad in {47.2} is, I would say, an obvious late interpolation. The famous motto ’Muḥammad is the messenger of God...’ (‘Muhammad rasūl Allah’) could, and almost invariably is, read as a simple factual statement that a person going by the name of Muhammad is the messenger of God. The phrase and its setting in {48.29} do not, to my mind, contain any intrinsic evidence to counter this interpretation. However, one of the phrase’s first uses outside the Qurʾan occurs in the ambulatory mosaic inscriptions on the Dome of the Rock -and this strongly suggests that it was Jesus who is the longed-for messenger of God referred to. The composer of the inscription was unlikely to have intended to repeatedly interrupt and distract from his Christological theme by the assertion that a different individual not otherwise mentioned was the messenger of God.

[@stuvertjohn3549]

Praise the Lord Jesus Christ.God bless you. 🇮🇳

[@arunraja3084]

Jay is always ahead and top of the curve

[@4twindad]

ahead of those he leads to the fire

[@springheeledjack9652]

It shows that the traditional mohammad wasn't a phophet, End Game

[@matthewbos6318]

Could y'all discuss how the /x/ in machmad would have transformed into the /ħ/ in محمد? These are separate phonemes in Arabic that result in different meanings, unlike in English. If they had adopted the word machmad from Hebrew into Arabic, the most natural way to adopt it would be as مخمد, which has a different set of root letters and would have a different meaning.

[@bamboo7714]

The origin of the quranic texts is said to be of oral tradition. So rather than looking at the evolution of word spellings, look at the phonetic evolution of such words taken from the Syro-Aramaic or Jewish texts, that were orally translated into Arabic, and eventually written down by the quranic writers as they compile the Quran.

[@matthewbos6318]

@@bamboo7714 I agree. In my original comment I was referring to phonemes, not graphemes.

[@Peter-xf9jy]

@@matthewbos6318 what do we know about the sound of hebrew ח and arabic ح back then ? do you have an idea why חי and حي are related ? wouldnt you/we expect it to be خي، خياة ? or why do we find שמש as شمس ... borrowing isnt always an exact science.

[@johnb9800]

Don’t forget that till the 7th century, Arabic letters didn’t have dots. So when they started using them, they changed many words to different meanings Compare خ and ح

[@alanwebb3454]

Thank you. Now two billion Muslims must read these words. I have been listening to Jay for years, in some admiration, for his discussions about Islam with dedicated, educated, academics who without fear or favour discuss Islam, in all aspects. Well done for your years of research. \

[@paulellis5101]

Thank you. It's been a wonderful way to spend my time, and I thank Mel, Joe and Jay for offering me a platform to share my thoughts.

[@littleninjamofo9841]

Seek advice from Dr Zakir Naik. You low qualified bottom dwelling KNOBJOCKEYS are far from the truth..

[@bourbon4707]

@Flat Sky Jesus in Qur'an is fake Jesus

[@bourbon4707]

@Flat Sky Isa in Qur'an is Joshua, and Mary is sister of Aaron and Moses?

[@SzTz100]

Wow, great discussion

[@AustinOKeeffe]

Was the Solomon love letter not part of an ongoing correspondence between him and his lover and Mhmd just meant the desired one - instead of something longed for. And how could this be also referring to the Jerusalem temple as something desired or longed for, when the temple was already there? Another Muhammed possibility - if it was an honorary religious/Jewish title that Umar took himself in the 630's after conquering Jerusalem, he may have been worshiped like a god for his achievements, but decades later Abdul Malik didn't want to make him out to be someone to worship and had it written on the Dome on the rock that Mhmd (Umar) was just a messenger, and not to be worshiped.

[@Savandero]

What if Mahomed is pronunced Mahomet (D=pronunced as a T), then It sounds almost like Baphomet. Any connection there?

[@paulellis5101]

There could well be a connection, but I am unaware of 'Baphomet' in 7C.

[@BreakFix]

Are you for real 🤣

[@khany6345]

Now you are talking sense.But Umar is not Mohamad. Mohammad refers to a person, who could be Jesus , Arabs created a real person who was Arab from Mecca to establish a self identity for themselves. Of course this upset both Jews and Christians thereafter.

[@brownwarrior6867]

Except this mythical character cannot be found in the Century he supposedly lived ,was an orphan ( convenient when making a fictional character up ) who despite having proclaimed (only in the fictional book containing the fictional character) extra special prowess in sexual terms had no children? Wake up.

[@aemiliadelroba4022]

Also there has been editing in Quran , that is obvious.

[@pinklady7184]

Muhammad's daughter has a Latin name "Fatima." Before Christianity, lots of Roman women were called "Fatima." Mhmd seems to be spelled the Roman way. Romans frequently dropped vowels so to speed up writing on wax tablets which were posted within Roman empire. It was just their shorthand writing. There might be Latin names for Mhmd.

[@tahirbanka1213]

Kashmiri language have added vowel in 2010 .we can understand it from context. So is case of other language.

[@abdulrahiman541]

Need subtitle for people like us....

[@peacock69mcp]

So now, what happens to Petra thesis? Why were all Nabatean temples oriented their Qiblas towards Petra?

[@aishamatovu3726]

Do what you want with the name you can even use Muhamud , this name is so beautiful to name anyone on Earth , if you claim it it is free take it and use it , it is absolutely amazing name .

[@omarkabanda6396]

Envy is killing em

[@albertpurification9413]

I am a writer , but taught to write something because I live in Asia .

[@deltadom33]

Why is there no references to the apostles in the Qur'an if it is a Christian book , I am interested in the greek version of the Qur'an

[@crixusthenorman1603]

Me too

[@talals7029]

The word " Muhammad "is never mentioned in Meccan surahs !! Interestingly , the word " Messiah " is also never mentioned in Meccan surahs!! Note that: according to Muslim scholars and historians , Meccan period lasted 13 years - 92 surahs was revealed at that period. Medinah period lasted 10 years - 22 surahs was revealed in Medinah . 92+22= 114 surahs. Note that : There is noting about the birth or childhood of Muhammad in Quran, but we find stories about birth or childhood of Jesus and Moses !!

[@anderslvolljohansen1556]

Any biographical information about Muhammad in the Quran would go against the Islamic tradition that says he received it from or via the Angel Gibril. He wouldn't need to receive his own biography from Gibril, because he already knew it well.

[@anderslvolljohansen1556]

@@Oxygen11115 Jibril is an Arabic name for Gabriel, according to en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel#Islam I mistakenly wrote Gibril, but this is actually the way Egyptian Arab speakers say it.

[@paulellis5101]

If there was no Mecca, there can't be any Meccan surahs, but I take your point. The prophet, the Qur'an, his audience, their situation and even the divine voice are all missing from the earliest surahs. The messenger gradually emerges until by the end obedience to himself is the only message.

[@kumdinikum3314]

Abu Quasim is his childhood name. Muhammad became his Apostolic title. One Gospel: Two Different Apostolic Traditions-The Paulin Tradition versus The Ebionites One

[@kumdinikum3314]

The Arabian Tradition tells us that one orphan who started as an "Evangelist"among Meccan pagans became a Founding Father of a Mighty Empire as he signed off his decrees and treaties as Muhammad. If that narrative is true the Founding Father of the Arabian nation is not the Muhammad in the Qur'an. The Muhammad in the Qur'an is Jesus as Muhammad is used as a euphemism for the title Messiah to circumvent the pagans resistance to the Gospel. If the Muhammad of the Qur'an is Jesus and the Muhammad of the Tradition is Abu Quasim, the lesson we learn is that the Qur'an is not a book of religion but a theory of government thereby the Prince drops his birth name to pick that of the Apostles as the popes do. Indeed the Sassanid Princes too in the Orient drop their birth name to wear a reign name. A case can be made for Jesus being looked up as the Chief Apostle as him being the Messiah sent from heaven to mankind. Remember how Islam never referred to the 12 as apostles but as Jesus'disciples. That's because for Islam the Trinitarians cannot claim to have the correct Apostolic Tradition. Jesus being the Messiah, the Chief Apostle, circumcised the 8th day according to the Tradition of Moses, not knowing anything about Trinity then Islam is the right Christian Apostolic Tradition. As a matter of fact someone is complaining somewhere in one Surat:"your people don't want hear the name of Jesus and when His name is mentioned, your people burst into clamor hereby..." Surat? Which takes us back to my original point that the Qur'an is not a book of religion but a theory of government which states that a Prince or any ruler who ratifies the Law of Moses is on earth the shadow of the Messiah in heaven. Abu Quasim, the Arabian Founding Father or any Sovereign for that matter is a Messiah in the metaphorical sense so it makes sense that he also signed off his decrees and legislations as Muhammad If he ever did. Conclusion: Jesus and Abu Quasim are both Messiah, therefore both are also Muhammad but Jesus is the Original and Abu Quasim is Messiah by analogy in order to enforce the Pristine Apostolic Tradition upon the Arabs so that it may be done on earth as it is heaven: the kingdom of God on earth! "The Making Of The Arabian Messiah, Sole Ruler Of Mankind Like Caesar Augustus."

[@RoarT19]

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[@JaiRamJaiRamJaiRam108]

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[@joshuarise3650]

Zakir Naik,they are propagating lies and they know it..cant turn back ,fake

[@kachyn_]

Stopppp😭😭

[@markaxworthy2508]

Once again the headline above goes beyond the content. "The Muslims' Muhammed is really the Jewish Machmad!" should read, "The Muslims' Muhammed is really the Jewish Machmad?" This piece raises questions. It does not provide definitive answers, or even claim to. Using tabloid headline techniques as clickbait doesn't do the subject justice or reflect well on the editor concerned. This seems tenuous. One wonders if we shouted the modern English "Jesus" into a crowd of early disciples whether any of them would know what we were talking about either. The Spanish pronunciation today varies from the English in every letter except the "s". Was the pronunciation of "Jesus" in the earliest Greek text of the New Testament the same as in Aramaic? (An open question, as I do not know the answer.)

[@paulellis5101]

With respect, I disagree. My thesis is that the term 'machmad' from the Hebrew bible was deliberately adopted by the principal author of the Qur'an first for Jesus and then for himself. It was meant to be recognised, in part, as a reference to the longed for Jerusalem Temple. Whilst all headlines are, by their nature, shorthand this one doesn't seem to be misleading.

[@markaxworthy2508]

Hi Paul, As you post, you are only advancing a thesis. The headline converts this into an established fact through use of the exclamation mark. This can happen if the headline writer is not the same person as the author. I think you have a viable, if tenuous, question here, but are not in a position to be nearly so declamatory as the "!" implies. I enjoy what you put up, so please do not take my scepticism too seriously.

[@markaxworthy2508]

@Konstantin Ridaya Thanks for the time you have taken. To start at the beginning, what is the hard evidence that "Jesus Christ spoke three languages, Aramaic, Hebrew and Koine Greek and so would all of His disciples and apostles have done for sure too."? Is this a presumption or an established biblical fact? (I refer here to before Jesus's death - necessarily some of them would presumably later have needed other languages, or at least translators, to proselytize outside Palestine). And outside the Bible, how far do we know each of these languages permeated Galilean society at the time and what proportion were tri-lingual in them?

[@paulellis5101]

@@markaxworthy2508 I try to express myself carefully (which I find much easier in the written word, than the spoken.) But it would be a dull old world if everyone expressed themselves in that way. I genuinely appreciate it when Jay takes my ideas and gingers them up with a little razzamataz.

[@markaxworthy2508]

@@paulellis5101 I appreciate that you express yourself carefully. That comes through in your presentation, which I do not fault. And, while indeed, "it would be a dull old world if everyone expressed themselves in that way ", I much prefer that to artifical gingering up and razzamataz. These are the tools of the salesman, (or clickbait, if you will) regardless of the quality of the product they are pushing. This rather leads me to believe that Pfander is essentially a largely Christian tool designed to discredit Islam and not a dispassionate investigation of its roots. Not all of us view the world through a purely Christian prism. That said, a lot of interesting stuff comes up here.

[@Piccodon]

The closest english word to MHMD would seem to be "desire" and "desirable". Covet is not much in current use.

[@nihilonisicruce6843]

Covet is not much in current use because of it's terrible negative connotations. The Commandment tells us not to covert anything: "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, or set thy heart upon thy neighbour’s wife, or servant or hand-maid or ox or ass or anything else that is his." Covet is a much stronger word/emotion that simply to desire; I might desire my neighbour's new Ferrari, but I don't want to take it from him as my own to deny him his right to it.

[@Piccodon]

@@nihilonisicruce6843 that was the problem with the Mosaic law, it addressed thinking. Nobody except one human could ever live up to it.

[@bobbybrooks4826]

Many THINGS now WERE turned into names of people but WERE only TITLES...

[@non6401]

French subtitles please... tx.

[@davidmcintosh3468]

You forgot about Hosea:8:6-7, MHMD, the prophet was was "carried by the winds", a maniac, the crooked snare. God bless you all!

[@AndalusPoet]

You seem to have it wrong! Also, it’s missing from your commentary. The consonantal roots ‘h m d’ means to ‘praise’. H mm d is the second form of the Arabic verb which means to praise a lot or heap praise on. Muhammad is an honorific title and name which means to heap praise on etc. Mahmad means an object or place of praise. A lot of the meanings ascribed to the verb, supposedly the Hebrew word, are fanciful figments of the Western imagination adding extra layers of myths. There is no way of knowing what it meant at the time. The Arabic language is vast and incorporates huge elements of past Semitic languages.

[@kodesh3642]

It's surprising to me that Dr Jay Smith still believes the messiah rose on the “first day”, seeing how learned he is I would of thought he would of discerned that he rose on the Sabbath.

[@vericacvetkovic9093]

Jesus didn't rise on the Sabbath, but on the 1st day, on Sunday.

[@kodesh3642]

The first witness to this is every time the resurrection is mentioned the Greek manuscripts say either πρῶτος σάββατον or εἷς σάββατον , these mean on the chief/high sabbath and on one of the sabbaths respectively (check sabbaton use here -> www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g4521/kjv/tr/0-1/ also check every resurrection account -> www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mar/16/9/t_conc_973009 and even when they gathered after his death was on the sabbath -> www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/act/20/7/s_1038007 ). A additional witness to this is that along side the dead sea scrolls we find a calendar that is a 364 day calendar. That calendar Passover is always on the 3rd day of the week. Now what does our messiah say about how long he will be dead “ But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous nation seeks after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Yonah: For as Yonah was three days and three nights in the fish's belly; so shall the Son of A'dam be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” MATTITHYAHU (MATTHEW) 12:39-40 . Note he said 3 days and three nights, the Christian resurrection account is from the 6th day to the first day but the accounts say they went to the tomb in the morning, this would not be 3 days and 3 nights. If he died on the night of the 6th day and was in the gave 3 days and 3 nights that would be the 2 day of the Hebrew week not the first day. This is clearly a mistranslation because “first day of the week” doesn’t make sense when used against the messiah’s own words, he knew that Ha’Satan would twist his words to trick many into breaking one of the Ten Commandments, despite the numerous witnesses in scripture saying we should keep the commandments even after the messiahs death and resurrection (Matt 5:17-19, Matt 7:23 note that he turns away those that transgress the Torah/law, John 14:15, Paul telling people to keep the commandments acts 21:18-28 , Rom 3:31, 2 Peter 3:15-28 note this combines grace with commandments we are saved by the messiah and keep the commandments to show love of 𐤉𐤄𐤅𐤄, Rev 12:17). Now if we use the calendar found in the dead sea scrolls (not the calendar of the synagogues of Ha’Satan) we have our blemish-less Passover lamb dying on the 3rd day (at night) and was in the belly of the earth 3 days and nights this would mean he would rise on the 7th day and is why the manuscripts say πρῶτος σάββατον and εἷς σάββατον . Also note that we have intercepted letters by jesuits (agents of the whore of Babylon) saying they would make tiny changes to the word which are hardly detectable but have big consequences (kzbin.info/www/bejne/qn_ZXq2wpa6qeNU) the translation of πρῶτος σάββατον and εἷς σάββατον to “first day of the week” has lead to the most wide spread commandment breaking by believers of all, breaking one of the ten. Did our messiah not say he is the father, did our messiah not say that he is lord of the sabbath day? We also can look back through history and see where did Sunday worship come from. It came from Constantine not from the bible (ref-> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday#Sunday_in_Christianity). I could go on but I don’t want to overwhelm you as a lot of this is probably news to you. Please test everything I have said and pray to 𐤉𐤄𐤅𐤄 for guidance but you will find all I say to be true. I pray that this removes the deception of Ha’Satan from your eyes and all that read and I see you all at the marriage supper of the lamb. Do not thank me when you find these things to be true, I am but a messenger, all glory to the one who made the message. 𐤉𐤄𐤅𐤄 ALMIGHTY who dwelt amongst us as the messiah OW𐤉𐤄𐤅 and through him alone we’re all of his children saved . Halleluyah halleluyah.

[@kodesh3642]

@@vericacvetkovic9093 hello family I pray you are well. Have you looked over what I said?

[@kopipahit3773]

For simple answer that in sabath yhwh make it as a rest day. He cannot break his ownlaw.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

According to Jay Smith the LETTERS OF PAUL are just MERE TAFSEER of the Old Testament and “other scriptures” (?). Tafseer means interpretation. If the letters of Paul are just mere tafseer, why is it they become the main core of the New Testament which comprised almost 90 percent of it. These should be written in a separate book. In the Islamic standard, no single tafseer is included in the Holy Qur’an. Hence, the letters of Paul must be written in a separate book. Jay Smith failed not elaborate as to what specific book or verse/s in the Old Testament that each letter is intended to for being a tafseer. He should have elaborated on the following letters of Paul: LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT CHURCHES: 1). Romans - tafseer of what is it intended for? 2). Hebrews - tafseer of what is it intended for? 3). Corinthians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 4). Galatians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 5). Colossians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 6). Philippians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 7). Ephesians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 8). Thessalonians - tafseer of what is it intended for? LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS: 1). Timothy - tafseer of what is it intended for? 2). Titus - tafseer of what is it intended for? 3). Philemon - tafseer of what is it intended for? 4). James - tafseer of what is it intended for? 5). John - tafseer of what is it intended for? 6). Jude - tafseer of what is it intended for? 7). Peter - tafseer of what is it intended for? -08-03-23

[@richardhallaj1907]

it depends on the declination of the noun.

[@liverpoolvinnerligan]

Today Hatun from speak corner was stabbed with knife...What wrong with world😡

[@firstnamesecondname852]

Hopefully she recovers soon. 😟

[@paulellis5101]

Thankfully Hatun has escaped with relatively minor injuries (compared with how bad it could easily have been). I was delighted to watch her first live stream this evening and am, once again, in awe of her courage and goodness.

[@nsebald]

Interesting content but Paul’s delivery of it was really dry

[@shadowkill546]

Looks like two fellows on youtube managed to uncover something that 1500 years of scholarship failed. It should be noted that the Prophet Muhammad was not the first person in Arabia named Muhammad. While it was an uncommon name, it was a pre-existing name. Moreover, this is a highly atheistic approach towards revelation. If we believe that the Bible is of Divine Origin, then its not impossible that it is talking about metaphysical realities that have instantiated in the future (from the perspective of historical Bible) Prophet Muhammad.

[@andrewfaniku]

The worst thing you can do to a child is to tell him/her to memorize a book written by God. Any book! It stiffens the child's critical thinking for life. 😪

[@Noname-dr1jm]

Hatun Tash just got stabbed at Speaker Corners 🤯

[@ardenkilikian7990]

Really? God bless her

[@Noname-dr1jm]

@@ardenkilikian7990 Check out Soco Films yt channel...

[@paulellis5101]

Thankfully Hatun has escaped with relatively minor injuries (compared with how bad it could easily have been). I was delighted to watch her first live stream this evening and am, once again, in awe of her courage and goodness.

[@karriemmisbach3596]

Jay Smith and his hard core missionaries they will never stopped attacking Islam for many years was always attacked by the Christian missionaries it's not something new amazingly some of them converted to Islam they failed miserably in their mission Islam will always prevail falsehood will vanished

[@danieldelger2434]

It is not a stretch fo say Mohamud ,being upwardly mobile,might want to give himself this monicer.Either given by himself or those around him to give an alussion or impression of aspired to gravitas Perhaps he wanted to glam on a little to the messianic paradigm ;and it had that effect to suplant the main thrust ofJesus?

[@iamthenotbenamed365]

Brother, What if said temple is not built of stone...

[@paulellis5101]

No. I am unaware of any structure on Temple Mount at that time. The temple was absent (like Ezekiel's wife and the Shulamite bride's beau). It existed as an aspiration.

[@barnettronald230]

I'm waiting to hear how Paul connects the Hebrew words "machmad" and 'machamadim" using the transliterated Arabic into Greek chart he showed. If I understand what he is saying he is carying this argument over into the New Testament so that Muhammad is referred to in the Greek text. But simply comparing the linguistic structure of words in different languages does not prove any causal relationship between them. There are so many linguistic utterances in the languages of the world that you can find almost absolute matches which have absolutely no historical connection one with another. I read the NT in Greek so I am anxiously waiting to see how he connects the Arabic or Hebrew terms to the Greek terms in the NT.

[@Heshem_Joel]

Absolutely. Phonetic similarities in different linguistics does not necessarily denote the same meaning.

[@paulellis5101]

I agree, but this is much more than two words sharing, possibly by chance, a linguistic structure. The words 'machmad' and 'machmadim' are different grammatical forms of the same word. Moreover, they are both used to the same effect in different contexts: to refer to the (lost) Jerusalem Temple using a term meaning 'the longed for one', with the particular association with an absent spouse . This cannot be a coincidence. Presumably one came first and the other used the same imagery. The Qur'an is in Arabic and borrows the same imagery again. Probably, I suggest, he also intends to refer to the new element of Jesus (who identified himself with the Temple, that he predicted was to be destroyed, and who also used spousal imagery for God's relationship with man) but demonstrating this was not necessary for the point that my presentation was making. This was limited to demonstrating that the Qur'an author adopted him himself as a name or title a word evocative of the longed for Jerusalem Temple. This corroborates, I argue, the Jerusalem Thesis that I have set out in earlier videos. Greek has very little to do with it. 'Machmad' is a Hebrew word that appears in the Qur'an's Arabic script as 'mhmd'. The significance of the Greek translations was limited to demonstrating that the first vowel was originally pronounced 'a' and not, as had become customary, 'u'.

[@johnnythelowery]

Oh my! Head spinning on this one. Will have to replay this one a few times. Looks.....dangerous to Islam. Looks like this is a bonafide in-coming missile. Pretending it's a smudge on the radar isn't going stand. BTW I thought the Masjif Al Haram was Petra per the initial set of Quiblas pointing to Petra, (which they do with a 5 sigma certainty). and not Mecca in S.A. After they changed it from Jerusalem....? Jay: We need a 'Where are we' summary of all this research coming in from all your different sources.

[@IR240474]

I always believed they had the same things when I read the translation of the Koran on a plane to Abu Dabi, the Koran is exactly the same as the old testament, it's word for word on the translation I saw. I spent two hours reading Genisis. I said to my friend why are we fighting, and a Muslim man at the end of the seat gave me a glance, as I spent an hour explaining to my friend the old testament. I think the Muslim man was also shocked at the revelation. If Mahammad lived in Petra and had a copy of the Old Testament, decided to write with help in another language the same words that seemed to unite many groups and cultures in the 7th century, thought to himself, hmmmmmmm. You can't have a cult without CULTure.

[@NoOne-zm5wh]

@Vishal Ashtrey not copy-pasted if may put it more clear, a response to biblical +(non-canonical one) and post-biblical literature from monks and rabbis over Mid and Near East

[@BreakFix]

Are you aware that you are disrespecting your own intellect with that argument??!!!

[@paulellis5101]

I agree with No One (that sounds empowering to write!) It's not a copy-and-paste. The Qur'an might be seen as, to use modern movie parlance, a non-canon sequel purporting to form the third part of a trilogy, but retconning much of what went before.

[@paulellis5101]

@Kilian Klaiber I did not suggest that parallels between the Qur'an and prior texts :(eg the name Mhmd and essentially the same word in Ez and SoS) are a coincidence. I drew the comparison with a movie sequel. The fact that a sequel generally features the same characters and plot elements that appear in the original movie does not make it a 'copy and paste' reproduction, since sequels try, by their nature, to use these in a new way. Derivative, I would agree to, but not copied and pasted. The Qur'an is, in my view, innovative.

[@paulellis5101]

@Kilian Klaiber I think that in the later surahs the Qur'an author saw himself announcing God's abrogation of His grant of the Promised Land to the Israelites in the time of the Exodus and Kings due to the Jews' lack of obedience. He declares himself to be a new Moses, commissioned to purify the Promised Land from error and sin, just as the Israelites had once done to the Philistines. This is very much the turning of a new chapter in God's relationship with man.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

According to Jay Smith is that he believed that there is really ONE ORIGINAL GOSPEL. Since he cannot find it, he assumed that the gospel of John is already that book. But his is only mere assumption. He failed to make any clear evidence to show that his assumption is correct. Hence, he has to show manuscripts in Aramaic as evidence for his assumption that the gospel of John is the already real Gospel of Pophet jESUs (pbuh). By his hasty assumption, he undoubtedly discarded the gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke into useless books which have no more meaning to the whole Christendom, and hence not fit to be used as the basis of the religiosity of the Christians. -07-26-23

[@Bei-Abedan]

28:15 you might want to correct your slip of the tongue there Jay.

[@RoninofRamen]

In fairness, Mel has also presented the Umar perspective (kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5jLd5aqhsyBZ6s) and he did acknowledge you on that one (around the 7 minute mark).

[@Bei-Abedan]

@@RoninofRamen All the more reason why Jay should correct his slip of the tongue.

[@Bei-Abedan]

Here is a video you might not have seen when the idea came out of the closet on the 12th of March this year. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3OQhKRrZcdgnsU

[@subramayamrvr8774]

please check syrian language script also.

[@gmann1968]

Mind blown

[@paulellis5101]

It is incredible that so much of human history and culture has been built upon so an obviously false narrative.

[@MrBell-hy5us]

If the title is correct, Muhammad is a Jewish Machmad why is it many of the passages in the qur'an the hostile aims mostly towards Jews?

[@sayahkhalfa7892]

According to scholar of Islamic Studies, Dr. Sean W. Anthony, when asked on Mythvision on Petra Theory, he says and I quote, "None sense, real garbage"

[@michaels4255]

In Turkish, Muhammed is rendered as Mehmet or Mehmed. Just google Mehmet/Mehmed.

[@gilaschannel1855]

The Levites, as part of their preparation for their original service to G-d in the Torah, shaved their whole bodies.

[@bennywolfe4357]

Are you sure about that? I’m pretty sure there are laws against shaving your head and sideburns.

[@isaiahfiftythree5334]

@Konstantin Ridaya. And Dr. Andy Woods.

[@gilaschannel1855]

@@bennywolfe4357 Yes. Just a one time thing.

[@bennywolfe4357]

@Konstantin Ridaya I read the paragraphs you sent and I couldn’t find what you were talking about. Where did god say that the laws were temporary?

[@bennywolfe4357]

@Konstantin Ridaya shaving is not connected to levites. Of course the Levite and priest laws aren’t relevant today, but they will be once the temple is rebuilt.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

It looks like Jay Smith and Abdul Fadi become irritatingly jealous and infuriated when they could read something beautiful is written about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). What they want is that all writers would always go by their line of thinking by always finding faults against Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), and that what they should write will always be about his bad sides. If only they have a supernatural power to squeeze the intelligence of Michael H. Hart, Marijn Van Putten, Hythem Sidky and the likes of them, they would do so to make them write anything negative only about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). What they lose sight of the fact is that they cannot suppress the intelligence of the writers and their independence to write. They cannot make them succumb to their evil motives. -09-01-23

[@eitangrei3364]

Your use of the Hebrew language is incorrect. The names of the places are usually 2 words to express a place for example "Beit Shemesh " Mount Scopus guy bin hynom = the place where one goat was thrown to hell in the world below and the other goat was sacrificed to God according to the Bible The Temple Mount is Mount Zion and not Mount Moriah. One word and lose the meaning of the name and the place

[@defenderoftruth3212]

How I earnestly wish that there is now an ORIGINAL ARAMAIC GOSPEL because I am dying inside to read it. I hope there is a translation in English. It's hard to read it in its original form in Aramaic. I don't know that language. I think Aramaic is much harder to read than Arabic. I believe that this Gospel is a book of spiritual guidance from God. Unlike the 4 make-believe gospels, their contents are purely biographies of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) but with a huge hole in the accounts of his life covering the primetime of his age. From what museum or library can we find the original ARAMAIC GOSPEL? Is there any original manuscript for it? I am urging Jay Smith and his cohorts to produce that book as soon as possible so that Muslims and Christians alike will be enlightened. -07-24-23

[@tyh3120]

Muhammad must refer to the divin one, cannot be Umar, a man. But the Calife, the representative of Allah on earth, is , like the Pope, the successor of the office of Muhammad, the Jewish Messiah.

[@jameswbuchananjr]

Both the calife and the pope, who are mere men, or you or I can claim to be God's representative on earth, but I am believing Jesus, who rose from the dead as His representative and also co-equal with God!

[@tyh3120]

@@jameswbuchananjr God appointed Moses to start a religious system, so did the Christ with the Apostle Peter. If you want to understand Islam , you must study the religious system of the Catholic Church, for Islam copy every rule, every ritual and every coutumes of the Catholic Church. At the end, the Islamic Calife will devour Rome. This Pope is the last one.

[@salancy3279]

💐💐✝️❤️👍

[@buddysilver5788]

Long before the Arab conquest, as a British Member of Parliament pointed out in 1939, "... a thousand years before the Prophet Mohammed was born, the Jew, already exiled, sitting by the waters of Babylon, was singing: "If I forget thee O Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its cunning."1 1. Parkes, Whose Land?, p. 26. According to Arabist scholar Alfred Guillaume, Jews probably first settled in Arabia in connection with the fall of Samaria in 721 B.C.: ...it is almost certain that the self-contained Jewish military colony in Aswan and upper Egypt, about which the world knew nothing until a few years ago, was founded just after the fall of Samaria, and consequently it is not impossible that some Jewish settlements in Arabia were due to fugitives fleeing from the old northern capital of the Hebrews. Guillaurne is certain that "in the first and second centuries A.D., Arabia offered a near asylum" to the Jews who had been victimized by the "utterly ruthless" Romans.{2} {2}Salo W. Baron, A Social and Religious History of the Jews, 3 vols. (New York: Columbia University Press, 1937), 1, pp. 308T

[@FirstLast-rb5zj]

So many jokes could be made. MacMad. Machmad, crazy speeds!

[@miguelsureda9762]

AJ deus explains it perfect in in hei paper MHMD/MHMT. The roots of the quran.

[@themsmloveswar3985]

The whole thing is rampant with plagiarism.

[@KissMyBlackStone]

Muslims should be open with criticism

[@wyattearpswoman838]

Oh, that is how I spell it, Mhmd. Interesting.

[@ruksarbegum2323]

Why did you add devil horns to moses

[@paulellis5101]

Hi Ruksar, well-spotted and an excellent question. Moses is often portrayed in western art with two horns, probably most famously by Michelangelo in his famous statue of Moses. They are not devilish horns though. It is, I think, generally thought that the artistic convention originated in a mistranslation of the Old Testament from Hebrew into Latin by St Jerome. The Hebrew text has Moses' face shining as he descends from Mt Sinai after receiving the ten commandments. I understand that in Jerome's translation it reads as though Moses has horns coming out of his head and this was taken by western artists literally as though it was some sign of God's grace. The point (or points!) is of relevance to the Qur'an. The story of Dhu'l Qarnayn ('the two horned one') in Q.18.83-102 appears to be based upon The Glorious Deeds of Alexander (i.e. Alexander the Great, who is also often depicted with two horns). Earlier in Surah 18, it is Moses who re-enacts a legend of Alexander the Great in the story of Moses and the Fish (Q.18 60-64). These verses are based upon the Alexander Legend of Pseudo-Callisthenes, which is referred to in the Babylonian Talmud and the Homilies of Jacob of Serugh (who, by the way, is our earliest source for the story of the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus, also alluded to in Q.18). So if the figure of Alexander provides the narrative for Moses in Q.18.60-64 and for Dhu'l Qarnayn in Q.18.83-102, and given the tradition for both Alexander and Moses to be depicted in art with two horns, it seems to me likely that the Qur'an author uses the epithet 'the two horned one' to conflate Alexander and Moses.

[@dollahmusa6705]

Especially , Islam contradicts the revelation in the Gospels that Jesus is only begotten Son of the Father ; that Jesus died a a "korben" ( sacrifcial / substitutional) death for us ; and that Jesus is the only way to salvation. " O People od the book !! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Torah , the Gospel , and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lordc." ( Sura 5 :68) The historical mohd was in facr an ambitious terrorist , criminal and murderer --- whose entire life was based on victimizing innocents and indulging in mindless violence , carnage and massacre. He was a man who destory peace wherever he went , and in its place brought terror , raping , unmerciful butcheries , carnage and death -- all the while invoking God's holy name to sanction his evil deeds.

[@kumdinikum3314]

FROM ABU-QUASIM TO MUHAMMAD. Within the pages of the Corpus of the 114 Surats someone is complaining that a certain Tradition which claims to be an Apostolic Tradition rejects circumcision while the Apostles were all circumcised, didn't believe in Trinity, and had prescribed a dietary Law during the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15:22-34 which dietary law the said Tradition rejects. Is it not ironic! Based on those clues we can infer with certainty that: Qur'an is a codeword for the Torah of Moses Reminder should be the proper Title for the current corpus of those 114 Surats. Islam meaning an Evangelical Political Party supposed to restore the pristine Apostolic Tradition of Jesus' disciples in Jerusalem and also enforce the Torah, the Law of Moses, as the Law of the land. Muhammad as a euphemism for Messiah/Christ Abu Quasim as an Arabian Evangelist who later became a Sovereign Ruler, Legislator, a Founding Father of a nation and picked Muhammad as a reign name as do the Popes when taking their Apostolic Throne. "We(the Children of Israel) sent you, O Abu Quasim, as an Apostle and a Prophet so that you and your people may believe in God and His Messiah/Muhammad/Christ, help Him, praise Him, sing for Him evening and morning. Remember when Jesus Asked, 'who will assist me in the way of God? The disciples replied, 'we shall be the helpers of God; bear witness that we are Muslims.'" Surat... Unfortunately the "Muhammad" of the Palace and the "Mohammad" of the Shahada in the Mosque got blended together in the Tradition. If it is true that Abu Quasim signed off his formal treaties, official decrees, and other legislations as Muhammad as reported by Ibn Hisham, then he is a Founding Father of a state power like Caesar Augustus, Alexander The Great, or George Washington. This might also explain how this present OPTICAL ILLUSION was perpetuated by those who seeking to capitalize on the Pilgrimage to Macca. Let's keep in mind that his Friday sermons in the Mosque were not about himself but about Christ/Messiah and His way. It' s high time to differentiate the palace and the Mosque under the Messianic title Muhammad...!!!

[@mrgeronimo84]

And the muslim will cut part of this video and give title "alhamdulillah..mohammed is exist in the bible" 😂😂

[@ardenkilikian7990]

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[@defenderoftruth3212]

The BIBLE in the eyes of JAY SMITH. According to Jay Smith is that he believed that there is really ONE ORIGINAL GOSPEL. Since he cannot find it, he assumed that the gospel of John is already that book. But his is only mere assumption. He failed to make any clear evidence to show that his assumption is correct. Hence, he has to show manuscripts in Aramaic as evidence for his assumption that the gospel of John is the already real Gospel of Pophet jESUs (pbuh). By his hasty assumption, he undoubtedly discarded the gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke into useless books which have no more meaning to the whole Christendom, and hence not fit to be used as the basis of the religiosity of the Christians. According to Jay Smith the LETTERS OF PAUL are just MERE TAFSEER of the Old Testament and “other scriptures” (?). Tafseer means interpretation. If the letters of Paul are just mere tafseer, why is it they become the main core of the New Testament which comprised almost 90 percent of it. These should be written in a separate book. In the Islamic standard, no single tafseer is included in the Holy Qur’an. Hence, the letters of Paul must be written in a separate book. Jay Smith failed not elaborate as to what specific book or verse/s in the Old Testament that each letter is intended to for being a tafseer. He should have elaborated on the following letters of Paul: LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT CHURCHES: 1). Romans - tafseer of what is it intended for? 2). Hebrews - tafseer of what is it intended for? 3). Corinthians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 4). Galatians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 5). Colossians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 6). Philippians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 7). Ephesians - tafseer of what is it intended for? 8). Thessalonians - tafseer of what is it intended for? LETTERS OF PAUL TO THE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS: 1). Timothy - tafseer of what is it intended for? 2). Titus - tafseer of what is it intended for? 3). Philemon - tafseer of what is it intended for? 4). James - tafseer of what is it intended for? 5). John - tafseer of what is it intended for? 6). Jude - tafseer of what is it intended for? 7). Peter - tafseer of what is it intended for? -08-11-23

[@rustomlalji8207]

Super evidences produced.

[@paulellis5101]

Thank you. I am glad that you found it interesting.

[@Md.Kamarussalihin]

Oh now there is "MHMD" in the bible...

[@skippyroast2642]

Is It True That in the Holy Bible Mathew 10-34 Jesus Christ Said "DO NOT THINK THAT I HAVE COME TO BRING PEACE TO THE EARTH. I HAVE NOT COME TO BRING PEACE BUT A SWORD. FOR I HAVE COME TO SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER..???🙏🙏

[@simko8665]

Was Muhammad the first one to be called this name?

[@paulellis5101]

I am unaware of the word,'s use as a name before the Qur'an, except (according to later tradition) as Mahmud, the elephant supposedly led by Abraha to Mecca.

[@aaabrams1889]

@@paulellis5101 How can you unaware of the word use when you gave a whole sermon on Mohammad as Machmad and Machmadim...ha ha ha

[@albertpurification9413]

I am from Asia , paul has given the truth to us ,though I knew something about the expantion of Islam .ok go ahead .

[@merketarif126]

You dont have the original manuscript of the old or new testament. its copy of copy of copy of copy of copy. you cant argue with such copys :d

[@aldredtawasil9339]

Muhammad- an Arabic meaning for " the praiseworthy"..

[@alixreza9629]

According to Paul, MHMD is referring to the temple mount so maybe that's why Abulmalek inscribed محمد رسول الله On the dome of the rock.

[@adamankind1onearthg]

Jay was like islam makes sense with the loved one temple ... And Jacob oddessa refference shout out for mohammed in 630th wow. yes he nailed it in his face.....

[@Krypterium]

Plot Twist : kuran is a Copy ,Paste ,Edit

[@mintusaren895]

Desertion tradition.

[@subramayamrvr8774]

see how Jesus is written in syrian script

[@defenderoftruth3212]

One Source. One message to all Prophets. One Religion. Only ISLAM. Q. 3:19. Indeed, the RELIGION in the sight of ALLAH is ISLAM. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah, then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account. Q. 2:213. Mankind was [of] ONE RELIGION [before their deviation]; then Allah sent the prophets as bringers of good tidings and warners and sent down with them the Scripture in truth to judge between the people concerning that in which they differed. AND NONE DIFFERED OVER THE SCRIPTURE EXCEPT THOSE WHO WERE GIVEN IT - after the clear proofs came to them - out of jealous animosity among themselves. And Allah guided those who believed to the truth concerning that over which they had differed, by His permission. And Allah guides whom He wills to a straight path. Q. 2:208. O you who have believed, enter into Islam completely [and perfectly] and DO NOT FOLLOW the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy. Q. 2:112. Yes [on the contrary], whoever submits his face in Islam to Allah while being a doer of good will have his reward with his Lord. And no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve. Q. 2:256. There shall be NO COMPULSION in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut (evil) and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing. Q. 5:4. … This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you ISLAM as your religion. … Q. 23:52. And indeed this, your religion, is ONE RELIGION, and I am your Lord, so fear Me." Q. 3:83. So is it other than the religion of Allah they desire, while to Him have submitted [all] those within the heavens and earth, willingly or by compulsion, and to Him they will be returned? Q. 3:85. And whoever desires other than ISLAM as religion - NEVER will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. -08-14-23

[@tbaldh]

There are names of people and places in the Quran that are also found in the Bible. The Quran describes the three monotheist religions as people of the book, furthermore, the Quran indicates that the revelations are a result of previous messages being corrupted and the people deviated. Given all these similarities it is possible to take some historic events, actions, or names to circumvent the narration of The Quran vis-a-vis The bible. This is not implying that Paul is inventing as most of his research is based on evidence or references but an alternate view of the presentation.

[@hitchensrazor5450]

And there are things that happened in the original jewish texts that happened many centuries earlier. Check out an even earlier version of Noahs ark which exists in the Rig Veda which predates the bible by thousands of years.

[@fantasia55]

It is likely that the Ummayids drew upon Jewish scriptures for the term Muhammed and the Abbasids changed it into a totally fictitious person, the Prophet Muhammed.

[@WerIstWieJesus]

The nabateans didn't drink wine (Diodor 1. century).

[@shahrahman4368]

Jewish - Weird discovery.

[@jacksonemory4358]

Almost like the name is.... Mum-an-dad..

[@baddbeliever]

the hebrew root H M D is beloved and Arabic is closer to praised and they would've naturally used the name and I think the Islamic claim is that Mohammad existed as a name before the prophet and possibly commonly used in the regions. because only Yahya is claimed to be given as a Virgin name to John the Baptist in the quran as never used before.