The New 2023 Honda Civic Type R Is Way Better Than the Ugly Old One

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2023 Honda Civic Type R review! The new 2023 Honda Civic Type R is here, and today I'm reviewing it. I'm going to show you all the quirks and features of the new Civic Type R, and take you on a thorough tour of it -- and I'm also driving the new 2023 Civic Type R, and I'll review the driving experience.
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[@groundedgaming]

Doug the type of guy to feel jetlagged after flying to the same timezone.

[@jacobjames319]

🤣🤣

[@retrosteven]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4jNc3looK2kqZI more hype.

[@zazaza700]

@@jacobjames319 😊😊😊😊

[@huzzzer6083]

💀

[@slowery43]

huge fail in trying to be funny or original

[@Mayor-McCheese]

Take note, Honda is one of the few car companies that listened to the community on their outgoing model and made every improvement we wanted to see and then some

[@gojirra3227]

Ikr

[@Karto86]

And added fake engine noise

[@Pdpawlak]

Minus AWD

[@ju4121]

@@Pdpawlak and 10k more for 15hp gains

[@blakelip3]

@@Karto86 Atlanta Falcons: Hold My Beer

[@PlancksTime]

The civic type R was always supposed to be the affordable performance car. The ones that a young person could afford and fulfil their dreams. But now it's same price as German cars

[@j.r.arnolli9734]

In the Netherlands the price will be 80k MRSP😮‍💨😪🥵😭🤬

[@silver1407]

don't worry, I'll just buy a miata or used lexus, the lexus will put this thing in the dirt feature wise and still have just shy of 300HP for a fraction of the cost you don't need 40k to enjoy a car, especially a bland honda that's FWD

[@Buh_Buh_Bacon]

Dealership called me to check one out. Once I got there, they told me $40k mark up on a $43k car. How is that supposed to be reasonable at all... literally had me boiling 😡

[@officialdjdetox]

@@Buh_Buh_Bacon i feel this

[@SuperNova..]

@@silver1407 what Lexus in particular? 🤔

[@timdefrank4714]

Honestly I liked how the old gen stuck out so much, there’s no mistaking it for any other civic model. This one you don’t notice it’s a type R until you get up close on it

[@uberefficent3936]

or if youre blind.

[@ChristopherFelicitas]

The old one looks ricy

[@8bu3askor6]

old one looks more of a track car than this familly car who wants to go to the track but says na .... i just go out on the weekends with the boys

[@tiktoktiktok2348]

The new 2023 type R should be the sports hatchback of the civic. The 2023 civics looks so ordinary.

[@darceew]

Agreed. This car looks just like any other sedan/hatchback on the road. Boring AF.

[@JTSuarez]

I really like this Type R, my only complaint is that it’s so long now it looks more like an Accord than a Civic

[@balistab1125]

Maybe an old Accord, but the '22 or '23 Accord are boats

[@brandonleesanders]

That’s Exactly what makes it look ugly… Anyone who finds this car attractive should re-evaluate their love of cars…

[@drippy623]

@@brandonleesanders The old Rs were ugly, everyone agrees

[@brandonleesanders]

@@drippy623 - The old one was ugly. The new one is even uglier.

[@Lil.Lon3Ly]

The normal sedan variant looks like an Accord for sure but this Type R “hatchback” looks better

[@kertveira]

I agree with you on the price. I don't care how much of a car enthusiast you are. Paying above $50k for a front-wheel 4-cyclinder car is NUTS to me. This is coming from a honda owner.

[@yubacity0145]

100% agreed

[@Weimerica8841]

Yeah I'll take an IS350 at that price, and I love driving manual as much as anyone.

[@EuroUSA]

Never ever lol

[@xavierwilliams4119]

@7D I've seen $68k

[@215618680]

Word, Brah.

[@LJ_S1K]

Never thought a civic would be so far out of my price range. Easily will be pushing close to 70K after dealer markups, taxes, etc. Insane. I hope dealerships go the way of the dinosaur and manufacturers can start selling direct to customers for a MSRP out the door.

[@axe2grind244]

$77,877.....to be exact. Lia Honda in Buffalo has a black one and thats the price he handed me. I almost fainted.

[@theparadigmshift74]

@@axe2grind244 dang . Thats alot

[@LJ_S1K]

@@axe2grind244 Fuuhhhck. I'm in CA. I can not imagine what my local dealers will price theirs

[@axe2grind244]

@@LJ_S1K It’s more than an RS3 lol.

[@GearZenChannel]

@@axe2grind244 I would have died laughing in their face.

[@Yarmox]

If only they came out with a two door coupe version.. that would be an instant tuner

[@13bulletclip]

It’d sell like hot bread

[@AlvaroPadilla97]

They could've made the new integra the 2 door type r but nope

[@rogergeyer9851]

Yarmox: Yes. Less doors make all the difference. /s

[@Yarmox]

@@rogergeyer9851 well they do you cuckit user, makes the car handle differently due to rigidity and shorter wheelbase. Not to mention its an actual sports car then

[@twrcrew8852]

@@13bulletclip no it wouldn't. The proof is the fact that they canned the civic coupe in general, the accord before that, and the fact that the only people who like these are 12-19 years old and can't afford one or old and broke and never want to buy a new car but always hoping to buy something used for 5 grand.

[@guidopalesa7679]

"looks like it was designed over the phone". Savage Doug.

[@jaywhite7324]

That shit took me out!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@andruboine]

Looks like this one wasn't designed at all... Throw a spoiler on it we done baby!

[@SSJBart-jb5dw]

@@andruboine I agree. It seems like they just asked everyone on the design team to make a list of the things people thought were too sporty looking and too stylish. They just removed them and there ya go. 11th gen across the board. Except maybe the Si sedan. I do like the look of it.

[@sydam9116]

@@andruboine Have to agree as well. I think the old one funnily enough was better looking actually, even if it's over designed. This just looks... boring.

[@andruboine]

@@sydam9116 agreed. I hate the cake vents but love mine over the new one. Can't wait to smoke anyone in the new one since throttle house showed it sucks in a roll race against the old version.

[@VIDvider]

People complained about the styling of the outgoing Type R, but I always found it to be demographically correct, given it's target market, and the fact that it's a hot hatch. The fact that it looked "juvenile and obnoxious" to quote Car & Driver, made it even more of an authentic hot hatch IMO.

[@waytooaesthetic]

took the words out of my mouth

[@shen1han]

The new styling makes sense in that way too. It looks like an Accord because it's more sports sedan than hot hatch. Young people are mostly getting priced out of buying new cars.

[@VIDvider]

@@shen1han It's a depressing thought, but you're right.

[@davidg9401]

@@shen1han agree with you 1000% the owners of the new civic are so adamant about it not looking like an accord but at a quick glance it certainly does

[@ohboymyo]

I loved that it fully embraced someone who probably grew up watching The Fast and the Furious and had a fever dream of suping up their dad's Honda Civic. Looked exactly like that.

[@Buh_Buh_Bacon]

I really loved this type R, and I have been going to dealerships and also getting the run around at other places with crazy $40k mark up to the point I rather just keep my 2017 370z. Dealerships really ruin the car enthusiasts' dreams of affordable sports cars.

[@adamestwick1997]

I think you meant "Dealerships really ruin EVERYTHING" I got you

[@sweeps3888]

This guy has to be on something. The sheer amount of energy, gestures, and general hand movement maintained throughout the entire video is astounding. On a different level, keep the energy man, keep the energy.

[@Red_Bearded_Dad]

I like the 3 tailpipes... but once you see it, it's hard to unsee: they kind of look like those old bicycle horns with the bulb you squeeze.

[@JDMHaze]

lol😂😂😂

[@sixthousandblankets]

Yep!!!

[@lrich8181]

Maybe the center pipe is exhaust and the outer two are for the wastegate?

[@Tjtjboy]

Damn! You messed me up on that 🤦‍♂️

[@zoranhome]

You ruined it lol

[@rickbdatsun]

That cargo cover is actually brilliant. Helping people load large items into the back of their vehicles and having them not know how to remove the cargo cover is fairly frustrating, both for the vehicle owner and the loader. Kudos to Honda.

[@Marbeary]

Agree it is more simple wondering why it is not that common for cars that need cargo cover.

[@RobinP556]

I’m a paraplegic and could never use the cargo covers of anything that I owned. I don’t know why someone didn’t thing of going side to side a long time ago.

[@Radikal_music]

I dig that new cover it's practical and smart not to mention cool💪

[@southpaw117]

I like it more than the springy bar in my STi.

[@hipster_tacos]

I'm surprised Doug didn't mention that cover was in the last model as well. I have the exact same one in my Civic Sport hatch

[@Emvilla25]

Never have i felt a most honest review. MSRP is OK, anything more is a hard sale..

[@ZeerXX]

I have to say I really love this car. I think this thing driving at you head on will look pretty mean given its stance and widebody. And you can't deny there is something so special and iconic when you see a white type R with the red interior and aluminum shift knob. Its crazy how well these cars hold their value too.

[@ScottXC91]

Quick correction: there IS another wheel option that’s not black. Painted aluminum wheels are available as an optional extra. Just built one the other day directly on the Honda USA site.

[@shaned1500]

yes theyre forged too theyre a different wheel

[@jackdrums1714]

Same with the shift knob. I believe it's either black or red or both.

[@C-W-S]

Yea and honestly the Aluminum wheels look so much better than the plain wheels

[@hexicalcat4937]

US Option only if you go on the Canadian site the aluminum wheels aren’t available

[@therealliveguy]

yeah, for like $3,000 more. They trippin!

[@ticklemedelmoe]

I like how you know the side vents are real from the first 3 seconds of the video based on the sunlight poking through and casting a shadow on the side of the car. Honestly fantastic work Doug for showing that quirk and feature to us all.

[@melodicpassion]

fk8 side vents are also open....

[@BigBear--]

Kind of annoying when a reviewer keeps the car in a stiffer suspension mode, then complains about the stiffness. THERE'S A COMFORT MODE, for a reason...The Type-R has one of, if not THE, largest adjustment ranges for the suspension. If he were to just pop it down into comfort mode, it'd smooth out all the little bumps and road imperfections. My father's first comment when I first drove him around in my 2023 Type-R was just how much smoother it felt compared to my previous 2020 Civic Si (in regular non-sport mode).

[@astroman2264]

I love the look for the old type r and the new type r. I don’t think either are an inferior look. Honda did a great job with both designs

[@tacticaltactability]

U like fake vents all over the car?

[@astroman2264]

@@tacticaltactability Ngl I kinda wish they didn’t do that. It’s cool and all but I wish they were actually intake placements.

[@jameswitt8124]

your brain and eyes are broken

[@darceew]

​@@tacticaltactabilityif it looks great and drives great who cares?

[@Visionary-]

@@tacticaltactabilitythe only fake vents are the back ones. Man I can really tell who doesn’t own any of the cars and like to talk crap.

[@archechme]

I never really thought the outgoing Type-R was that offensive, I didn't mind the styling because it kind of matched the attitude the Type-R has had over the years. However now they've brought the new one out, I see where you're coming from. It could have looked a lot better. I think a lot more people will take it seriously now.

[@monkeydui7241]

It was overstyled but not in an ugly way

[@JustSimplyRobert]

honestly I feel like the old Type-R was better. The old one was drastically over styled, but with the new one it feels like they just replaced one extreme with another. I loved the old one, I understand why people complained but it felt like it fit the cars character. however the new one is not offensive, nor is it bad. The new Civic just looks like a generic saloon, and the Type R just looks like a slightly more styled business saloon with a bit of Rice. its not bad, its not great, it's just neutral and a bit underwhelming.

[@shrayesraman5192]

Idk the new one is very vanilla. There was something special about the old one. The new one is just too simple and boxy.

[@johnnyaguiar3088]

I liked it better

[@greensleeves8095]

I thought it was ugly. IMO, it was almost a mockery to Honda enthusiast.

[@JohannGambolputty22]

Noticing it looks like a Honda lawnmower is a hilarious detail I’m glad someone thought of. 😂

[@geronimowindow]

I just thought it was a little lighthearted roast

[@gallardo20000]

And the BMW plastic covers look like my Braun shaver lmao

[@Richaag]

If the engine lasts as long as a Honda lawnmower, take it as a compliment.

[@gallardo20000]

​@@Richaag yup. Among the most reliable internal combustion Engines on the planet

[@TML34]

Honda does make the best lawnmower engines, so I’ll give it a pass. 😅

[@paulstabin6233]

Another thorough, detailed review. Even when I strongly disagree with a comment or conclusion, I still appreciate the serious effort Doug makes on these reviews.

[@FinalDriveshow]

Good stuff Doug! Fingers crossed I'll get to review this car as well. 🤞

[@20TIL6]

Imagine thinking in the 1980's that one day a new Honda Civic would have 315hp.

[@chillmarky4347]

@Nomen Clature In a car that weighs less than 14 kilos, 110hp makes that a rowdy car.

[@Cedrickr]

and imagine thinking it would look so close to an Accord as to be indistinguishable, and be this big/heavy... and and and

[@manuelight]

@@Cedrickr the new Civic looks like a sport back version of the 1998 Honda Civic Coupé. It's great!

[@francisj4058]

@Nomen Clature 110 is crazy power in a miata 🤣

[@jamesreuss9704]

or that it would have almost 14 inch brakes, bigger than the originals wheels.

[@mrirace926]

I love how Doug even sounded shocked to see how much that Miata sold for. That's ridiculous for that.

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

ide rather get a regular one and do a V8 swap at that point

[@damienlee1165]

Its one of those special edition ones with the special orange paint though so I guess it kind of makes sense. Honda had those special edition yellow Type Rs and they were going for almost 50-80k out the door cause yellow paint so there you go, modern car industry/market for you.

[@vvaton]

🍊

[@Nickoboss29]

@@damienlee1165 yeah, it's the 30th anniversary edition btw

[@modernarchive7502]

Yes but Feb 2022 a base model Pontiac Aztek went for $10K. I'm a big Aztek fan and it was a beaut in bright yellow but base, base, base. Fully equipped would have Versatrak AWD, leather, heated seats, sunroof, trailering provision, CD changer, Rally edition (GT if it was an '01) and the beloved head-up display. Even then a dealer will sell it for $4K to $6K, defining top dollar.

[@adreamytealfox8562]

I was so happy when I seen that you did a review on this car Doug! Finally.

[@1Kinetic]

Hey Doug...question. I know you mentioned the harshness of the ride...just wondering your opinion, do you think the tire size is greatly lending to that? or is it more a combo suspension, strut setup?

[@nathanlong8295]

The base model have more comfortable wheels and suspension.

[@fghfxgjfgjdfjxfgj]

The side-to-side cargo cover is great, no more front-to-rear roller in the way when you drop down the rear seats to fit large GT3RS watering cans

[@MrTresto]

I'd like that in my own car. The covers that go over and block are annoying af so I always just take them fully out of the car.

[@mervunit]

taken right out of the odyssey

[@sihaz1969]

Except after a few years when it goes floppy and won't return to its housing like mine did on the previous model. (It's not repairable either - plastic welds all over it so no getting inside to add a bit of oil)...

[@CameronScottsChannel]

You can also remove/flip it so it goes from left to right or right to left, this was the same for the 10th gen.

[@Autizzo]

The 11th gen Type R is pretty clean but with 10th gen civics you can actually tell what’s a hatchback and what’s a sedan without having to be told. The Hatchbacks and Sedans look damn near identical now.

[@Candace_Owens_Corning_]

👆👆Thanks for the feedback, Expect more video very soon send a directiy message I have something for you(🎁🎉🎉🎁)..

[@futureofcarstube]

Great job Doug very informative

[@robertfiske2084]

I love my new 2022 Honda Civic SI. I also prefer my interior over the type r. One more thing I like my spoiler much more the type R. The rear spoil on the type R looks like it's after market. But I do like the hood the air induction.

[@metalogic1580]

Same, I have the Canadian SI so I pretty much have all of the equipment too, though I admit the Type R's seats could be nice. Not that I have any problem with the SI's seats but these look a bit more fancy.. and I wouldn't say no to the extra power either, but definitely not for $17k more lmao

[@vizardb7378]

I disagree, I actually liked the "overdesigned" old type r, it had it's own charm, but as they say the beauty is in the eye of the beholder so to each their own

[@mickeymomighty5660]

It's blocking the view and without it the car would be nicer.

[@mustasheolll2020]

EXACTLY. I love the 8th 9th and 10th myself.

[@mustasheolll2020]

The 9th got a lot of knock from auto enthusiasts but as a car guy myself I’ve always liked it, I found it better than the 8th.

[@NJA3421]

Same here

[@X11CHASE]

You guys are a part of the tasteless masses

[@smilinmenacediecast]

Huh, a Doug Demuro video in the morning for once. THIS is gonna be a good one.

[@anhvu-yp9vs]

not for everyone though

[@groundedgaming]

@@anhvu-yp9vs Nearing midnight

[@chickenmuffin]

Means he was up all night editing lol.

[@____-gy5mq]

@@chickenmuffin snorting coke in his Ford gt

[@JDMHaze]

THISSSSSSSSS*

[@saucey99]

how doug explained the gear shifting just proves he knows his stuff!!!

[@Eric5ohhh]

I personally think those live read outs of oil pressure, intake temp, boost etc is very cool and I would use that a lot

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

18:50 - I *LOVE* that cargo cover! That is way nicer than the usual "removable front-to-back" style every other hatchback/SUV has! If the bit it retracted in to was better integrated into the side wall, instead of obviously being tacked on, it would be perfect. *EVERY* hatchback/SUV should have this!

[@ShaneOrr1]

"it looks like it was designed over the phone" I'm dying 😂

[@gabriellytle9309]

Big entertainment screens in cars is a trend I wish would die out already

[@prime6091]

You could look at the red badge on the back to know its performance, or the massive wing staring you in the face

[@tom_forsyth]

The thing with the styling is - there are plenty of people (myself included) who loved the absolutely insane styling of the old one. It was mad as a box of frogs, and that's what people liked about it. BUT. They sold a lot of them. A LOT of them. And now all the people who wanted that - well, they have one! So if the new one was the same - nobody would buy it - because they already have one! So I do agree the new styling will sell better, but not because it's actually better (it's not), but because all the fans already got what they wanted, and now Honda are trying to hit a slightly more moderate market. The real test will be in 5 years time. Which model will have higher resale value? My money is on the mad one.

[@michaelramirez4864]

I very much like you analysis! That’s how I feel about this new car, it’s a basic civic with an auto zone spoiler

[@08vtec6]

I’ve never heard of mad of a box of frogs, that’s hilarious

[@28johnpetrie]

@@08vtec6 Sounds British.

[@goatlps]

100%. Each Civic model/mark looks nothing alike. This one's the ugliest ever.

[@a6thomas574]

I doubt it fd2 dc5 dc2 ek9 those are the best type rs and none of them look ugly like the fk8 and those are the ones that are worth major coin now

[@SKlegomocs]

I love how Doug is just roasting 10th gen type r lovers

[@alfred0621]

Imagine your car being called ugly by Doug... Man, you'll never recover from that humiliation.

[@NeXMaX]

@@alfred0621 Well, he also owns cars that he calls ugly, but for those cars, they were part of the charm.

[@guycha0s380]

I agree with doug

[@12gauge_shawtyy]

@@alfred0621 he wrote an article about how the Jeep Liberty (my car) is the ugliest redesign in automotive history. and honestly i agree 🤣 still love my car tho

[@77R_]

10th gen looks better than this

[@RemixxGlamGal]

2 yrs later y’all Still cracking on “Doug is the type of guy jokes” 😅😅

[@Thatboyaustin51213]

😂😂😂

[@Dhafa5681]

11:09 why’d he grab the shift knob like that 😳

[@stevehuk902]

That lawn mower comparison was something 😬🤣🤣

[@seiph80]

Ha! Hey I gotta admit, I've had my Honda lawnmower for over 10 years and still kicking!

[@bwofficial1776]

Wait a few years for the exhausts to rust out and it'll sound like a lawnmower too.

[@DMSBrian24]

You're absolutely right about it gaining weight, unfortunately that's a biproduct of modern interior amenities, safer chassis design and safety systems, which is why I'll continue to drive 80s-2000s shitboxes... also because I'm broke and that's all I can afford.

[@23ofSeptember]

I hear you on the 80s etc shitboxes. Something about not being able to see over the hood prevents me from driving anything new these days. Love the low to the ground feel those older Hondas have.

[@DMSBrian24]

@@23ofSeptember exactly this, whenever i drive a newer car it's like it's entirely disconnected from the road, it lowers your vigilance and allows you to drive much faster without realizing how fast you're going, in this one way it's less safe cause you're less aware and a crash at those speeds will kill you even with all that modern equipment

[@bigpoppa4094]

88-2000 was Honda's Golden Years. I did like the RSX-S tho. rarely see those on the road anymore for some reason, idk? I had a 92 eg civic hatchback with a k20 rsx-s motor in it. that thing was so peppy. had major torque steer as doug described. also tuned ecu so that the Vtec kicked in early at 4,500 rpm. car was amazing to drive

[@23ofSeptember]

@@DMSBrian24 It just feels like they have to tick too many boxes nowadays. More rear legroom so lets make it a "hatch" or huge crumple zones and bulky info-tainment systems.

[@timothypittman9681]

Ha-Ha-Ha!!!

[@TheoRhoades]

I love how you make love to your car reviews lol

[@builtvisions]

“Designed over the phone” I’m literally in tears 😭😭😭😭

[@mattmanley7118]

I’ll say it… I liked the big Wing 😂

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

Ugly? I liked the old one! I almost bought one if it was actually a $15k better car than the equivalent Focus ST at the time.

[@lukasg4807]

Old one is too gaudy. Also it made every cop in 100 miles be on your ass.

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

@@lukasg4807 Yeah, I’m still in my mid 20’s and want something a little obnoxious. I didn’t look at Golf R because I didn’t like the styling. I really wanted a Nitrous Blue Focus RS but they were like MSRP with 20k miles 18 months ago.

[@pwally2714]

I like the older version more.

[@TheoRhoades]

One more comment! This is IMO the best looking generation since the 6th gen. Keeping it simple, and to the point. I understand many will disagree...but that goes for every new/old generation that's been released.

[@mrprincemusicandgaming]

I really like the 8th gen and they revved to the moon but this is by far the most gorgeous

[@bernardoramos7842]

@@mrprincemusicandgaming 8th gen is my favorite by far.

[@BigB848484]

Euro 8th gen 😎

[@hyphydan]

IMO you have bad taste.

[@TheoRhoades]

@@hyphydan IMO you smell awful

[@ythen]

19:32 I'd like to make a small correction about torque steer. Torque steer is caused by an imbalance in the lengths of the drive axles because the transmission is on one side of the engine. That's why torque steer isn't random, it will go in the same direction every time. Force is transferred differently through different length axles and as Doug says, the problem is on higher HP fwd cars.

[@4mas5]

That's not totally true, engineers compensated for the difference in length by using a different thicknesses of the axles.

[@EdgyNumber1]

Not simply higher power cars but high torque cars. You can have higher power cars where the torque can be manipulated throughout the rev range to reduce the effects, and increase power by raising the rev limit.

[@raphaelrodrigues1645]

Torque steer in essence, is the toe variation when torque is applied (either engine torque or brake torque). FWD cars usually have a suspension geometry that's prone to torque steer. But yes, unequal length drive shafts would cause an imbalance on the torque each wheel receives, so the toe variation is different between the wheels, which would make the car veer to one side. Manufacturers that really worry about the handling of their cars, usually try to make different suspension geometries to mitigate that issue, something Ford did on the MK2 Focus RS

[@Android-vk8yh]

Your reply is interesting. I have an older 07 Civic type r I think because it's naturally aspirated I don't get talk steer problems As you said, maybe how the gearbox is configurated to the front wheels. But if you drive a ford with a turbo like an ST, it's terrible??

[@TheProtagonistDies]

no matter how you dress it up its still a honda...

[@cwaltderz6971]

That stitching really provides that extra performance I was looking for

[@Aunt_Devan]

Last week I traded my beautiful red 2022 Honda Civic Sport for the 2024 Civic Sport Hatchback with CVT. The dealer had one Type R there and it was beautiful. I really wanted to get it instead but I was held back by my inability to driver a manual. The Civic Type R is definitely going to be my first manual in a year or two.

[@benderaviation]

When I had a RSX type-s it had similar levels of wheel hop which I was able to solve with stiffer Hasport engine mounts. This came at the cost to comfort and noise level.

[@rossfuller8025]

Likely your OE rubber, fluid-filled mounts were broken - car hops like crazy on cracked factory mounts. When I had mine I broke the stock units within a few months of owning the car, spent an evening installing the Hasport poly mounts as you mentioned - night and day difference for sure.

[@stepladder3257]

I miss the Grand Tour tent, if it was still there, Jeremy would show this car and say that if he had the old one he would feel suicidal, and Hammond would say “who do we know who has one” and the camera will cut to May

[@Candace_Owens_Corning_]

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[@mattkalinowski5]

Am I really the only one who actually liked outgoing model styling more ? :D Maybe it was overstyled but hey, its proven now that it wasn’t much (if at all) slower than this one and in my opinion that fact allows it to look like race car :D

[@Vizenz121_OR]

No you’re not. I liked it too. I thought some of the venting should have been functional but I thought it was very distinctive and Japanese. And it definitely wasn’t boring. I kind of miss it

[@Atomb]

I didn't like it at first, but like a lot of designs, it grew less offensive and I actually really like it. I'm not sure which I like more, the new one or the old one.

[@ML-yn9yu]

I lot of people like it. Also I think age has a lot to do with it. Doug is at the age where he couldn't appreciate the styling of the outgoing model.

[@goenitzlopez2076]

Pretty sure the target audience for that styling was kids under 25. Anyone over 25 driving that just looks cringy

[@ML-yn9yu]

@@goenitzlopez2076 I would say you fine through until late 20 even early 30s. This new one though, it looks boring as hell and looks like just another Accord tbh.

[@staraang21]

"1980s General Motors" lol I totally got that feel too😄

[@cljr16]

Love your reviews man, keep up the good work. I want one of these so bad but the markups are insane right now, my nearest dealer here in Florida was asking 70k. Has anyone ever told you, you remind them of Quentin Tarantino? Lol.

[@aLexGeNeSiS01]

This cars are trash

[@hihoian]

I like both models, however the old one looked more aggressive

[@JDMHaze]

agreed And I really liked it because the previous civics didn’t look intimidating in the least bit

[@VelkePivo]

Looked like high school student's project car

[@googleleavemynamealone9145]

I liked it, way more Gundam Suit IRL

[@scorpbyt609]

It looks like a gundam robot

[@no_cap2499]

I think this 1 is ugly

[@JDMHaze]

I actually liked the aggressive styling of the previous model, and I don’t like the front end of this new one, but the previous gen was a step up from the prior civics that looked like speed bumps…

[@Xzibit9]

"aggerssive" guess thats a very subjective term, the back looks bulbus far from aggressive

[@guycha0s380]

Pov : you are 12 years old

[@GlANNlS]

@@guycha0s380 pov: you dont have taste

[@guycha0s380]

@@GlANNlS pov : you're a ricer

[@slowery43]

some people think Whoopi Goldberg is attractive, to each their own I guess. I bet you're a huge Fast and Furious fan

[@wanglee21]

The side shot with the front air gill shadow looks awesome!

[@bunsenn5064]

This is what a Civic Type R has always been since the EK9. A simple, understated track car with a few minor but meticulous adjustments and modifications. A lot of people don’t realize that the Civic Type R was never as insanely designed as the FK8 in prior generations, because we didn’t get a Type R outside of the JDM until the FK8. People who saw the Civic Type R before the 10th generation release know that it was never an overstyled car, that’s not what it was supposed to be.

[@420villain]

I liked the styling of the old one more

[@yitboy11]

i LOVE that cargo cover!!!! Finally, a cargo cover that you don't need to remove to fully utilize the cargo space. Especially if you drop the rear seats. Everything before this, you needed to take out some heavy rolled up bulky bar or a fuzzy plastic clam shell. The fact that you don't have to store some awkwardly shaped and often times heavy item to fully utilize your cargo space if you aren't using it, and still have the ability to hide your cargo when you want to is an absolute game changer. That is an innovation that needs to be on every hatch equipped car from here on out. BRAVO Honda!

[@mattl1962]

I have an insight and know the struggle

[@Robert8455]

Good review Doug. Unfortunately Honda could have offered up some more nice stuff here for that price but as equipped I think its pretty high. Any dealer markup can shove it up their greedy little glove boxes. Not too crazy about the red carpet, it does not age well. Black floor mats are a must have. Shiny metal shift knob needs to be changed out asap. The wheel style is very nice but I'm growing tired of black wheels. The optional performance wheels are really nice but so crazy expensive. Marketing department has us going to the parts department to get all the good stuff, paying more. The styling is way better than the old one. I'd even consider a spoiler delete. Interesting car but any dealer greed will kill it sales. There are lots of other choices.

[@matthewbrigida]

Love the shirt Doug, I happen to be staying in Chiang Mai right now!

[@commonsense311]

Excellent review as always, Doug. I personally liked how the over stylized outgoing Type R looked.

[@andruboine]

Doug's cool and all but I'm not taking style advice from him lol. He's been dressing like a dad since he was a teenager.

[@cronicgamerzsmicrowave2712]

@@andruboine Right? Nice type R btw. Us type r owners gotta stand our ground with these new ones😂

[@Prime-nf5yy]

@@andruboine lol you nailed it!

[@carterhb680]

Yeah the old style from 2017-2021 was so much better than this lmao

[@doccyber]

Totally agree.

[@bigredchevytruck]

$44,000 for a Civic?! Granted, this is the top of the line performance model. But that seems completely ridiculous to me. I have a 2012 Honda Civic Si coupe and it came with the original window sticker. My car was something like $24,000 new. The Civic is supposed to be the entry level model. Even for a premium performance model, that seems like a hell of a lot of money for a Honda Civic.

[@Candace_Owens_Corning_]

👆👆Thanks for the feedback, Expect more video very soon send a directiy message I have something for you(🎁🎉🎉🎁)..

[@goldtutch]

so much different! its more serious looking, did a really good lap time at the nurburgring, ive watched the lap and it just looks so so stable

[@devondostalie5085]

Doug, so tuning my type r won’t damage it later? Can I still push it hard ?

[@StreetPreacherr]

I like how he makes CERTAIN to point out how the addition of red stripes to he rear seat stitching are at LEAST great for performance!

[@slhines7]

Wish they'd make a 2 door hatchback version once again.

[@OG_POV]

11:10 the way doug stroke that shift knob, wouldnt be surprised if he sat on it

[@TheGrowOp]

Its like they took Hondata and mashed it into the built in infotainment! Pretty neat I have it for my 09 Si and its such a powerful tool

[@andrewb325]

Damn this thing looks good in that opening shot. It's such a throwback to 90's JDM styling.

[@disracenboi336]

Doug not bringing up the retro EK9/DC2 style type R gauges in sport mode is depressing. That is soooooooooooooo cool!!

[@Cab895]

LOL go back and watch the 2017 review video. The "THIS" has changed so much haha . Love Doug

[@CCK-jd8nc]

Oh my gosh, get this: Honda listened to what their customers WANTED, and they MADE IT! This is unheard of!!! Other car companies should really take notes on this crazy cool and brand new trend that was not invented hundreds of years ago.

[@carsonfiero4209]

It would be cool so see with low profile after market wing risers. Almost flush with the hatch and further back. I’m sure they will be made by some company eventually.

[@javierrosadojr.6379]

APR is on it probably on it as we speak

[@bwofficial1776]

Does a front-wheel-drive compact really need that much downforce?

[@javierrosadojr.6379]

@@bwofficial1776 yes otherwise it will oversteer in high speed corners

[@javierrosadojr.6379]

@@bwofficial1776 look up what TCR cars look like and you’ll see they all have a big wing

[@michaelramirez4864]

@@javierrosadojr.6379 you won’t see gains with fwd wing unless you’re going 100mph+ which will almost never happen

[@carsultantcanada4662]

I really do miss those performance shifting lights from my 2012 Si ...a real nice "gimmicky" touch., but once you have it you really appreciate it :)

[@RalphOK]

Doug gets a lot of views, but he doesn't speak for driving enthusiasts. The fact that he finishes by stating the Civic Type R is a front wheel drive four cylinder, and so isn't worth the money, shows he's a mouthpiece for the average guy who isn't interested in driving dynamics.

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

Doug the type of guy to say, I'm going to take a tinkle.

[@groundedgaming]

Doug the type of guy*

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

@@groundedgaming Edited for you ✨️

[@heyolorenns]

Doug the typa nigga*

[@groundedgaming]

@@paulie-Gualtieri. thank you! But it's not for me. It's the original. The one you had was the proper grammar one edited by Doug in a Kia SUV mocking how he could speak into a mic to the back seat passengers

[@hankwk]

As a Golf R owner, I liked the fact that the old Type R had an over the top design. It stood out. It was different than its competition. This one, loses most of that.

[@balistab1125]

Fake big Lamborghini vents on a performance car was so hideous on the last gen

[@hamedblends7488]

Also last gen looked like a wrx sti

[@MetalOxy]

"Designed over the phone" fucking hell Doug that was hilarious. Cheers. Also, the LogR app seems really cool and it's nice to see Honda including that with this car.

[@EpicMicky300]

Thanks Doug, now that you've posted a video on it, I can't afford one.

[@jjgsxc86ssgc]

Ford Bronco should take notes for under-the-hood packaging.

[@jevans84]

Yes! More media outlets need to start judging these cars on the dealer markup price and not on the list price.

[@Yushiro03]

Waiting for dough to review the FD2 & EK9

[@s38902]

Love that T-Shirt From Thailand😊😊

[@CZILLA]

doug is roasting the old type r so much lol

[@bradpiovesan8550]

The outgoing Type R looked like someone designed it over the phone 😂 definitely had that “look at me” factor throughout its entirety

[@engineergaming4399]

Look at me Hector.

[@thru7887]

@@engineergaming4399 kid named finger

[@crazybeartimba]

I love Doug's shirt :)

[@8CD8]

Forgetting about everything else for a second, that dash is gorgeous. 10:54

[@jeffd2398]

The darker shade of the floor mats compared to the carpet is driving me nuts lol

[@AR-rs2dy]

This car has just been announced in the UK and it's retailing at £47k so about $38.5k at todays rate but I don't think that dealers are allowed to mark-up like they do in the States. All the reviews here are much more favourable so I wonder if they are set up differently. The steering has come in for criticism in US reviews especially when compared to the FK8 and maybe the ride but here they say the steering is superb and although the ride is obviously firm it's well rounded off. All reviewers say it's well worth the £47k and is probably the best hot hatch of all time. Top Gear have awarded it Car of the Year!

[@kevincockburn7805]

I think you have your FX rates muddled up. £47k in the UK is the same as $57k. The £ is stronger than the USD, so £1 buys more $.

[@AR-rs2dy]

@@kevincockburn7805 yeah, that was daft.

[@JMastr1]

U don’t need heated seats Doug it’s a sports car. Performance based.

[@StreetPreacherr]

At LEAST the old wing looked 'factory', even if it was a huge eyesore. The new one is easier to overlook, but when you DO, it sort of looks like an aftermarket spoiler that someone just bolted on the trunk themselves?

[@ralph02136]

that wing did not look factory at all, that's why ppl keep roasting it till this day. It's the kind of wing a 16 yr old would've copped from ebay and threw on their beater civic or accord.

[@davidg9401]

I preferred it

[@aaryeshg.6526]

I liked the factory wing on FK8 but I think it would fit better if it was a saloon car, like the FD2 Civic Type R has. It has a wing that fits the design of the FD2 gen very well.

[@ChocolateFrog]

They should do a touring version with no wing or 3 exhaust tips but the same engine, wide body and suspension.

[@wynn324]

yea this wing looks fucking awful if by some unfortunate turn of events I ever found myself in possession of one of these overpriced pieces of horse shit I would immediately rip it off

[@HondacivictypeR777]

FK8 screams type R even if you are not a car person it’s easy to spot it’s a track car, the new one is nice but it looks a little too plain very similar to the and can be confused with the 11th gen hatch with HPD wing.