The NEW Fairchild 670!

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Thomas van Opstal

Thomas van Opstal

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@vincenthabay5109
@vincenthabay5109 7 ай бұрын
i woke up with no problem this morning and now i realize i miss a 35000k compressor
@jontshyza
@jontshyza 7 ай бұрын
Word
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
Haha yeah i feel your pain ever since they took it away from me after the day i filmed this video
@jaykons1985
@jaykons1985 7 ай бұрын
😂
@KobaMeskhia
@KobaMeskhia 7 ай бұрын
@@thomasvopstal 😂
@JTPiano2011
@JTPiano2011 3 ай бұрын
You should have moved during the night. No forwarding address…
@Animetrix-WAV
@Animetrix-WAV 7 ай бұрын
35k is crazy. Everyone who pays 35k for that has NO CLUE of audio engineering. Even as a millionaire I wouldnt buy that thing for 35k. Herchild is the way better deal, but the plug-in is close enough for the price. Dont get me wrong. I am a sucker for great hardware. My most expensive piece is the RND Master Buss Processor, but 35k? Geez.. Never.
@MixedByDotRob
@MixedByDotRob 7 ай бұрын
Let's face it: this is also a replica. It just comes with a "Fairchild" sticker, which adds 20k to the price of any other replica ;-)
@experiment0003
@experiment0003 7 ай бұрын
So, what makes it not a replica? Original company, same schematics, same parts, etc. If you go down that road, only the first 10 or so were built by Rein Narma himself. I guess every other vintage 670 from the 60s are replicas.
@MixedByDotRob
@MixedByDotRob 7 ай бұрын
@@experiment0003 that's a good question! It's not the "original" company though ... Toni Fishman setup a new company and re-registered the brand Fairchild. But in any case I think it's cool that Fairchild is back!
@experiment0003
@experiment0003 7 ай бұрын
@@MixedByDotRobOh, it's basically a recreation! So, it's a new company, not the original company. I stand corrected!
@jamescassidy4045
@jamescassidy4045 7 ай бұрын
More than 20k. Also, what company actually builds them, do you know?
@Suburbstudio
@Suburbstudio 7 ай бұрын
Rainer Oleak in Berlin Germany has a superb one!! (yes original) Crazy Crazy good sounding!
@Suburbstudio
@Suburbstudio 7 ай бұрын
He also has the UTA one and several other units that want to be a Fairchild!
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
Oeh! Nice, thanks! I’ll look into it!
@JTPiano2011
@JTPiano2011 3 ай бұрын
Wow. Even sounds great in my crapy iPhone speakers. I’d love to hear it my studio!!
@KASTET-cx6uv
@KASTET-cx6uv 7 ай бұрын
Would like to see comparison with UnFairchild 670mkII from UTA. That one is 11k and has some cool features
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
Yes! It’s on the list! Just gotta find one!
@wolfgangwiesinger9502
@wolfgangwiesinger9502 4 ай бұрын
What does this device, recording and high quality replay?
@77advanced
@77advanced 7 ай бұрын
Ok 2500 for tubes.. metal faceplate, rack, knobs and few transformers another 2500. So 30 000 for what, handmade work and brand name? It is crazy..
@Joelfrancis
@Joelfrancis 7 ай бұрын
Exactly 🏃
@TripianaVids
@TripianaVids 7 ай бұрын
Trypoul Studios in Neerkant, Netherlands has a vintage Fairchild 670
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
Amazing! Def gonna reach out!
@TripianaVids
@TripianaVids 7 ай бұрын
@@thomasvopstal amazing studio, amazing engineer. He got all the good stuff
@TripianaVids
@TripianaVids 6 ай бұрын
Cool man! You went to see the studio? Gonna watch the vid later 👍🏼
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 6 ай бұрын
@@TripianaVids i did! The studiotour just went up. The vintage fairchild video will follow in 2 weeks!
@TripianaVids
@TripianaVids 6 ай бұрын
@@thomasvopstal cool man, vette studio hè?
@kelleykelley3153
@kelleykelley3153 7 ай бұрын
The Stamchild and the Herchild. Considering both! Thanks for the video. Have to say with KZbin conversion the UAD isn't far off. But I need the hardware
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
They will definitely both be in this series!
@kelleykelley3153
@kelleykelley3153 7 ай бұрын
Can’t wait. Almost pulled the trigger on the Herchild because I love my Tubsessor (might buy a second for stereo) but after receiving my Stam SA-47 mkIII (loving it) and the Stamchild having the wet/dry knobs I need your review to help me decide. 👊🏽💜👍🏽
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
@@kelleykelley3153 i really need to try the tubesessor as well! Will do the stam and herchild in this series 100000%
@natura808
@natura808 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@MatthewBarelick
@MatthewBarelick 3 ай бұрын
You asked Who owns original Fairchild 670s ? Capitol Records has several of them (THAT THEY STILL USE DAILY) because they are the "CREME DE LA CREME" of compressors the engineers and producers have won multiple Grammy Awards because they sound so great! If you want a premier artist walking through your doors at your studio only buy THE BEST GEAR and hire THE BEST STUDIO ENGINEERS to run your sound! There's a saying from one of my favorite movies- #BUILDITANDTHEYWILLCOME!
@alex_thebaker
@alex_thebaker 7 ай бұрын
Anyone else thought it was $35 and probably available off Temu
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
Hahah damn, imagine this thing being $35
@alex_thebaker
@alex_thebaker 7 ай бұрын
@@thomasvopstal Could I trade in my car for a lower monthly payment? 😅💔
@anaisvania
@anaisvania 7 ай бұрын
@@thomasvopstal The Plug Ins
@JTPiano2011
@JTPiano2011 3 ай бұрын
Oh f&$k! I just ordered two at the $35 price point. My wife’s not home yet, please send help!’
@jjjohny_a5965
@jjjohny_a5965 7 ай бұрын
looks like all have to wait for the vst that has no extra nose with those warm tubes or maintenance god am glad i sold off my hardware before being stuck with out dated tech
@dannydaniel8975
@dannydaniel8975 7 ай бұрын
That cold, sterile vst doesn't sound nearly the same..
@franswessels810
@franswessels810 7 ай бұрын
Hi Thomas. Thanks for the video / test. Disclaimer, I don't come close to your experience and knowledge on mixing and running a studio, being just an amateur (life time hobby) sound engineer. with my own Hybrid home studio. Having said that, I listened over and over to this marketing wonder. Closed my eyes and try to find the by-pass / engaged mode point, did NOT succeed very well. To be honest, only on the song4 I could say, this unit really does the job. For the others, I can't really make a significant difference between the HW unit and the UAD plugin. Of course I am NOT listening in the studio to REALLY hear it, because no one owning a studio ever let me in just to have an interesting day in my life 😉 (HINT HINT). But maybe that's the whole point, NO ONE is listening in the studio, they use headphones (most of them just the standard 50 euro's ones) while riding a bike in heavy traffic. So they recreated a wonder from the past, which was a wonder at that time. Why on earth spend 35.000 on this, I would think what you have today in your studio is just as good. And for those who think of spending over 300.000 dollars on an REAL DEAL version, you can live a happy life for 300 month (25 YEARS that is!!) when you combine that (1000 euro per month for your fixed cost of life) with a simple job without all the hassle of running a studio and compete with the world on getting big contracts with the top of the bill musicians. I DO understand the kick you get, may be I would to but not likely as all my other equipment will most likely kill the improvement of using this compressor.
@JTPiano2011
@JTPiano2011 3 ай бұрын
But it’s soooooo shinny😊
@PharaohLawLess1
@PharaohLawLess1 7 ай бұрын
$300,000?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Jeez!!!! Imagine telling your wife you spent $300,000 for a got damn compressor! You better make the #1 record in the world with that compressor!!!
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 7 ай бұрын
Exactly and I dont hear.....35000 dollar improvement
@risingphoenix1484
@risingphoenix1484 7 ай бұрын
@@johnisrael5183 You are not going to on KZbin.... actually you aren't going to hear any difference with any hardware vs plugin. You have to be in a properly treated room with excellent monitors to tell the difference.
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
I think the type of person that buys a $300.000 compressor is the type of person that doesnt even use it. They probably put it on display behind glass to brag to their guests about which records were made with it
@Iconicsoundmusic7
@Iconicsoundmusic7 7 ай бұрын
⁠ Exactly Just idiots Midnight by Acustica Audio is competitive You can’t even get those same circuit and transformers anymore so it’s no way that the new one sounds as good as the vintage one it’s impossible Because you can’t get the same circuits in transformers Acoustica Audio being sampled from the vintage is still going to make it better than the new unit Ooops dat hurt 😢😂
@PharaohLawLess1
@PharaohLawLess1 7 ай бұрын
@@Iconicsoundmusic7 I ❤️ Acustica Audio
@hockeytalk6084
@hockeytalk6084 3 ай бұрын
Now you gotta stack this bad boy up against the Behrchild when it comes out 😂
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 3 ай бұрын
Haha yes! I will def try to get my hands on that!
@LashonEvans216
@LashonEvans216 7 ай бұрын
I'm a hardware advocate. But NEVER lol. 😂😂😂 I'll stick to my retro sta level which is almost 10% of the cost lol
@ofir_likes_beer
@ofir_likes_beer 7 ай бұрын
Why not just get an UnFairchild?
@tonygunz21
@tonygunz21 7 ай бұрын
With the modern recreations and other compressors that sound just as good, there's not much of a point in buying one of these unless you just want to say that you have an actual Fairchild. Perhaps having one could be a marketing tool for studios, which I guess could justify this type of purchase. But strictly as a tool, I just couldn't see a reason to buy this over something like Undertone Audio's Unfairchild, which has far more flexibility and modern features, but maintains all the goodies of a Fairchild....oh and its a third of the price.
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, i think at a certain level, high end studios would see an increase in bookings if they can say that they have an actual fairchild. I already see that with people wanting a 1073 and cl1b. Also, there might be people selling their vintage to cash in on the insane price increase but still want an actual fairchild
@MadACeTeeMack
@MadACeTeeMack 7 ай бұрын
Obvious difference between the plugin and the hardware 670. The notes last longer and sound fuller compared to the plugin. Also, the plugin sounds much thinner and flatter compared to the hardware.
@JTPiano2011
@JTPiano2011 3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@hockeytalk6084
@hockeytalk6084 3 ай бұрын
I thought so too
@taviqmasteringonline2754
@taviqmasteringonline2754 7 ай бұрын
7:13 HW 8:00 UAD
@BlackenedNL
@BlackenedNL 7 ай бұрын
Happy with my UAD plugin :) it gets pretty close imo
@faober3594
@faober3594 Ай бұрын
they go for 300k but they dont sell for 300k 🤣. I ve seen them for around 50K. I love this compressor tough, very natural compression and uad vst sounds as good to me. Would like to try the reissue of the Rohde & Schwarz U-23 which is where Fairchild took their inspiration in the 50s, originals are expensive but since they are less known you can get them for like 20k the pair. Many people say they are better than Fairchild.
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal Ай бұрын
I guess Rohde & Schwarz later got renamed to vacuvox? I have tried a couple of those. Original and new and theyre great!
@faober3594
@faober3594 Ай бұрын
@@thomasvopstal Vacuvox is the reissue but nothing to do with the original brand. What you prefer? Fairchild or vacuvox?
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal Ай бұрын
@@faober3594 so there’s 2 versions of the vacuvox i believe. The original with usually a wooden case and red knobs and there is the new new vacuvox with bigger black knobs. The owner of that company used to have his shop in a room right next to the atlantisstudio. I havent had enough time with either to tell you which i prefer to be honest
@wilsantanaproductor
@wilsantanaproductor 7 ай бұрын
Interesting video, dude. I like how it sounds but I see no reason to spend 35k on this one knowing that there are very good replicas around there. For example, the Stam Audio is in my opinion a good alternative to get that warmth and character expending a 20% of its price. Regards!
@1loveMusic2003
@1loveMusic2003 4 ай бұрын
The vintage one probably won't be to original spec, so the reissue might be the closest thing on earth to the sound of the original. Maybe? Tubes don't last over 60 years and I hear the originals were military grade ones that you can't get. Is that true?
@triplebeam23
@triplebeam23 5 ай бұрын
Ill just stick with my acustica 😂
@Iconicsoundmusic7
@Iconicsoundmusic7 7 ай бұрын
⁠ Ultramarine sounds like crap compared to it But….they redeemed themselves With the Vintage 670 that you have And the Stamm audio and Eclipse clones that they live sampled for midnight Plus it has more features So therefore, you can use it in mixing and mastering and vocals At a fraction of the cost And sounding, at least 80% to the vintage unit So that makes spinning $35,000 a waste of time and money 😭😂 I dare you To download the trial It’s fully functional I’m telling you, bro, I’ve got analog gear I’ve got a Warm Audio GCOMP For Masterbus And Art Stereo FET for Tracking and the dbx 286s for Vocals With the Mackie 8 Bus Mixing Console Pro Cabling and a UAD Volt 476 Alesis MK2s Monitors and a Lewitt Mic 🎤 with Nebula and about 40 Acustica Audio plugins so I know analog vs Digital And midnight is VERY VERY CLOSE
@baptistec.4546
@baptistec.4546 7 ай бұрын
This is where a 200$ plugin replicating 99% of this device shows up, 1% more authenticity for $33,8k, is that worth it ? These device are cool to say « hey, look what I own ! ». These are beautiful piece of gear, no doubt. But then ? I guess it’s time to consider ITB production and say goodbye to past. ITB production is awesome.
@dannydaniel8975
@dannydaniel8975 7 ай бұрын
I used to think it didn't make a difference too until I bought a Korg poly800 synth from the year 1984...and after making a few songs with it, I never wanted to touch a vst again. I didn't have to add anything to warm it up or eq it to make it sit well in the mix...analog is way better!!
@TroubadourMusic
@TroubadourMusic 5 ай бұрын
I prefer the plugin.
@JohnWuMastermind
@JohnWuMastermind 7 ай бұрын
For 35000 a face-lift with a nicer looking front design would be nice
@darkstar.runner6669
@darkstar.runner6669 7 ай бұрын
so - its a "fairchild" sticker on a replica ... but for a 35k prize tag ... so go with Stam or UnderTone Audio and you´ll get a replica too with an expensive prize tag on it but for far less then the "Fairchild" sticker (Stam and Undertone Audio are something in the 10k range) ... and if you´ll go with UnderTone Audio take a few bucks more for the UNFa-1 box to add it to the 670 replica and you´ll get a lot of more control to a lot of good things of a 670 ... i can´t see any advantage to spend 25k extra only for that "Fairchild" sticker - but thats only my 2 cents on it ;-)
@KlemmMusicTechnology
@KlemmMusicTechnology 7 ай бұрын
It is not the same with the cheaper copies. They don't have point to point wiring. It is a lot of work to do this and only a few companies still are able to produce something like this in high quality. The cheaper copies only use the legend and the name but it is not possible to sound the same if you use a complete different approach. Point to point wiring and 20 tubes make a difference. If you say the difference is not worth the money for you, that is ok, but there is a difference. The idea at Telefunken was "let's make a 1:1 copy of it" - they even analyzed some materials of originals 670. So I must disagree, the difference is more then just the Fairchild sticker.
@kevinbatchelor9566
@kevinbatchelor9566 7 ай бұрын
As cool as these are, and they are VERY cool, it's hard to see why anyone would choose them over the Unfairchild.
@statueoftheabyss6886
@statueoftheabyss6886 7 ай бұрын
Oh, ridiculous, 35K? adding around at least 30k markup. The comparison makes little to no sense, there is currently a 200k gold top up for sale, Gibson gonna start charging 25k for a modern replica. Would love to see a justification on pricing for this.
@rotheu
@rotheu 7 ай бұрын
This $35000 device has the cheapest components available. $4 Alpha potentiometers and switches
@jmac2050
@jmac2050 7 ай бұрын
so these things have become art pieces - collector items, not worth the price as a tool tho, obliviously.
@DDPAV
@DDPAV 7 ай бұрын
670= The Klon of compression.........
@ir8123
@ir8123 7 ай бұрын
Wow....creamy,lively,wide mid side when engaged
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 7 ай бұрын
Man...that aint worth 35000 smh....wow....the acustica audio midnight actually sounds just as good......
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
Bold claims, let’s convince acustica we need to try the plugin for the next shootout!
@SuperFake777
@SuperFake777 7 ай бұрын
@@thomasvopstal I USE ULTRAMARINE 4
@SuperFake777
@SuperFake777 7 ай бұрын
have you tried ultra marine 4
@RS-pp7ng
@RS-pp7ng 7 ай бұрын
Why are you blaming boomers on the housing prices? I really didn't get it (not a boomer here).
@stevedoesnt
@stevedoesnt 7 ай бұрын
Purely a status symbol and nothing more. I would never trust the decisions of an engineer/mixer who owned one of these.
@SamIntharaphithakOFFICIAL
@SamIntharaphithakOFFICIAL 7 ай бұрын
Please Herchild 670
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
Will do!
@galgogergo
@galgogergo 7 ай бұрын
​@@thomasvopstal Also the Audioscape recreation
@natura808
@natura808 7 ай бұрын
@@thomasvopstal You the Man!
@qualaup
@qualaup 7 ай бұрын
...I don't want to sound rude but that piano sounds awfull with and without compression... 🙂
@metatron-007
@metatron-007 7 ай бұрын
Total rip off, its a disgrace. It cost about $1000 to build, TOPS. If I need to use a Fairchild I will hire it and that's it.
@SebTheSaviour
@SebTheSaviour 7 ай бұрын
damn, this UAD just sucks
@risingphoenix1484
@risingphoenix1484 7 ай бұрын
I only want to see hardware vs. plugin with a referee and the referee from a science perspective, and that is Plugin Doctor because no one is going to hear the real differences on KZbin due to KZbin compression and audio standards. Also most people are not in a treated room listening to this video to critically listen on the nuances of the products sound.. This is why I hate these plugin vs hardware videos, it is not an accurate representation.
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Yet there’s plenty of people that seem to hear a lot of differences, even here on youtube
@risingphoenix1484
@risingphoenix1484 7 ай бұрын
@@thomasvopstal Here is the thing, when you watch these plugin vs hardware videos where they are blinded, people in the comments say X,Y and Z and are often wrong and at best 50% when its only 2 choices. and worse when it multiple product plugin choices. So these people that claim to hear differences are only tricking themselves.....Do a blind test video, take a poll and then do a reveal video and I guarantee it will dispel all these people with magical ears. You have to be in an appropriate room to hear the nuances, you know this you do great stuff.
@thomasvopstal
@thomasvopstal 7 ай бұрын
@@risingphoenix1484 yeah i get where you come from, but i don’t feel that it’s impossible to make a judgement theough youtube or if youre not in a treated room with good monitors. The differences are bigger than that to me, even on youtube! I wish i could make the files available to download so those who want it could AB at the highest quality, but im using actual files of artists i work with that give me permission to use it on youtube, unfortunately not to freely distribute.
@risingphoenix1484
@risingphoenix1484 7 ай бұрын
@@thomasvopstalYeah I know that's tough when you are using clients material. You can hear some differences but you can't tell the real nuances what makes the hardware special....especially on the low end with a of these units. However, it should be blinded, and it should be compared to what the hardware is doing and what the plugin is actually doing. UA makes some great plugins but it will be different every just like every hardware is different. Regardless... I love your channel and you do some amazing work. Keep it up.
@Joelfrancis
@Joelfrancis 7 ай бұрын
@@risingphoenix1484 you are absolutely right 💯
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