The new IJF rules are simply UNDERWHELMING

[@Chadi]

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[@4li5nga23]

Let's adopt Kodokan rules instead

[@Haraldo-l7w]

100%

[@zvalshii1799]

for real

[@kenwintin3014]

YES!!!!!!! Kodokan Judo not IJF wrestling.

[@eiichiyakamoto840]

Please

[@---tx9xx]

Totally. Why should we let the IJF, dominated by Europeans, determine the Olympic rules for this Japanese origin sport? Can’t we all just decide to follow the japanese rules? F them

[@joatanpereira4272]

We need younger people on the heads of the IJF. Right now it's basically a bunch of old stubborn people.

[@Yupppi]

Is Kodokan full of young and hip people or how does that explain the difference?

[@minhquando100]

@@Yupppi I think it’s more so that the Kodokan is ran by the Japanese and the IJF isn’t. From what I’ve read online, the Japanese have always been opposed to the leg grab ban and they’ve always seen the rules implemented by the IJF as watering down their traditions in judo.

[@emanuelechiocchio2184]

Would have been muxh better to leave it as it was, without these "updates". IMHO. Since we like Kodokan's system why not using it?

[@thomass.4007]

@@emanuelechiocchio2184 You like it, many like myself don’t. You all forgot how matches looked in early 2000s

[@cahallo5964]

​@@thomass.4007More complete and better lol

[@NDOhioan]

​@@thomass.4007It was *better* in the 2000's, because it was still *judo.* The IJF is obsessed with making the art into a second-rate Greco-Roman, because for some reason they care more about what wooks pwetty than they do about judo.

[@Haraldo-l7w]

Let’s focus on the most ambiguous and frustrating part- New kodokan rules are a very fair compromise IMO- no shooting from open space for double-legs, but from kumikata you can go single-double. Now the new IJF- you can like grab an asscheek, but can’t “hook a leg”? What? So presumably te-guruma OK, but snatch single Yazdani style from grip is illegal? These are fine lines, and all to preserve some spurious aesthetic?

[@MistahMolosser]

@@Haraldo-l7w which are the forces opposing the implementation of the kodokan rules?

[@Haraldo-l7w]

Ahhh, the I… J… F…?

[@MistahMolosser]

@@Haraldo-l7w and within the IJF?

[@treavorwhitlock5606]

Keep the pressure on boys! Leg picks are coming back.

[@kingartifex]

by the time that happens, one has the time to master another style which

[@kingartifex]

by the time that happens, one has time to master another style

[@Haraldo-l7w]

The VAST majority of judoka prefer including leg grabs. It makes the style more effective for fighting. That’s the bottom line. Why IJF?

[@aherrera4801]

why does he keep grabbing the dudes ass I been doing judo about 14 years i've never had to grab my opponents butt for any technique. this is embarrassing to judo

[@jonmielke6781]

Overall, the rule set is whatever. I’m getting to that age in life where competing is not completely necesarry. What really irritates me is why judo clubs (speaking in terms of the U.S.A) are resilient to teaching leg grabbing techniques because of what the IJF ruleset is. I have always wanted to learn how to counter an uchi mata with a Te-guruma, or how to do a kata guruma in a non-kata format, but unfortunately no sensei I have encountered is willing to spend that couple minutes after class to simply demonstrate and teach something that is not allowed in a ruleset.

[@jonmielke6781]

Yes, there is BJJ, but it’s not the same thing.

[@---tx9xx]

You hit the nail on the head for why I even care about this, I’m already not competing on any international circuit, but the problem is most local clubs in the US feel the need to adhere to IJF rules in how we train and do local tournaments

[@Live4ThisFishing]

Forget the rules. Learn to grapple. Period.

[@fernandohsantos]

IJF disappointing Judo; no surprise. Kodokan Judo rules!

[@danle3181]

All Japan Championship, not Kodokan.

[@NEKOSIRO-ip3tj]

There are many people in Japan who are angry that the rules of judo were changed. Especially in France, which has no understanding of martial arts and has banned walking.

[@christophervelez1561]

I was also disappointed with this. What is their resistance to bringing back more leg grabs?

[@thomass.4007]

Yes! I personally agree with the IJF on that. You all just remember the highlight reels, but Judo matches in the early 2000s were very bend down with tons of crouching and dropping. Our whole constitution was even different, Judoka had much stronger legs and comparatively weaker upper bodies, since you had to be bend down the whole match. Todays Judo is much more upright with more standing techniques like standing seoi etc.

[@christophervelez1561]

@ I guess. But they can allow leg grabs like kata garuma and te garuma but ban single legs and double legs.

[@philosophizer1868]

Because they were sick of the russian domination haha

[@danle3181]

@@thomass.4007 Dumb comment. IJF is KILLING judo, don't you realise it ??? All IJF affiliated judo clubs will follow IJF rules, no matter what. Once all the old sensei are out of the game, what will you get ? Judokas who are not even able to perform a standard kata guruma or morote gari in randori. That's BULLSHIT.

[@gabrielepicco3582]

@@thomass.4007 a limited leg grabbing would be a solution to save both good posture and leg grabbing, I think the japanese federation is going that direction

[@Live4ThisFishing]

All these rules do is limit technique. They send the message that Judo is afraid of wrestling. If you can’t defend a double/single leg or heel pick, that’s your problem. Get better.

[@happymonster9098]

If I was a judo master I would move away from the IJF and teach the original judo, I would call it Ojudo or Kanojudo or something similar if they try to close my dojo because of legal issues with using the "judo" tag. I don´t understand why the whole judo community is accepting some arbitrary rules decided by a bunch of guys in suits when most of the judokas just want to practice the original martial art. Unfortunately, I still have a long way to become an expert who can teach.

[@npaprika1]

The IJF dictatorship might also be weakening with the increase of BJJ fighters getting into judo. We have an appetite for decentralized bodies and rulesets like CJI/ADCC/IBJJF/EBI etc... JFLO hinted at starting his own cross BJJ/Judo tournament. I joined a Judo club as a BJJ guy, and 2 other BJJ people coincidentally joined at the same time.

[@ricardokerscher]

and what bjj people will do in Judo?

[@JJDon5150]

Judo is run completely different than BJJ for a reason. You think CJI/ADCC/IBJJF/EBI is good for BJJ, but its not. Its 4 completely different rulesets with vastly different competitors. As much as the IJF gets hate, Judo has a centralized organization and centralized ruleset, so there is no question who the best Judoka in the world are. Judoka also have a way to make money from Judo, while professional BJJ is barely a thing. Without a unified organization, competitive BJJ is all over the place. I'm a longtime BJJ purple belt who started training Judo several years ago (Judo brown). While yes, more BJJers are coming to Judo, they're not competing at a high level in droves. Its still Judoka primarily competing in Judo. Most BJJers don't even take the time to understand why the rules are the way they are in Judo (and I'm for the leg grabs btw). The IJF is not going away. And I like JFLO, but there isn't some huge market out there for no gi BJJ/Judo tournaments.

[@TenguMartialArts]

I think what you’re looking at is mostly an American phenomenon, though. BJJ isn’t nearly as popular outside of a handful of countries with the U.S. at its nexus. The decentralization of BJJ works there mostly because the lack of better infrastructure, frankly. While CJI was definitely great for BJJ, Judo in most countries that take it seriously, come with genuine jobs, salaries, and subsidies. You can very much do it as a “real job,” and, unfortunately, much of that is tired to the IJF ultimately. So while, yea, the American BJJ system allows for more freedom in sport ostensibly, it also means there are a lot fewer, stable salary positions for competitions, coaches, etc.

[@danle3181]

@@ricardokerscher Judo...

[@ricardokerscher]

@@danle3181 how?

[@Yupppi]

I'm surprised about how they ended up with this decision for the rule set. It would be interesting to hear the arguments for the end results. Kodokan rule set seemed like a perfect template for an easily understandable and working rule set. Somehow IJF managed to drop the ball completely. It seems like nobody was satisfied with this announcement, even with the boos from professionals in the presentation.

[@ulyssessengupta4765]

Thank you for the update Chadi. Totally agree. Could you please tell me (Aikidoka) What names you use to differentiate between the two hip throws before and after 5:48? Single Vs double hip throws/koshinage, quite similar to the ones we learn in my style of Aikido, but different in how the kuzushi is created. They were great 😊. Thank you.

[@Chadi]

@@ulyssessengupta4765 ippon Seoi nage and kata guruma

[@submissionsummit]

Why wait for an organization to change a ruleset in order to practice something? Shiai is only a portion of judo.

[@Fred-px5xu]

Chadi I honestly have nothing to add to your learned narrative. I will state that I agree with your assessment. Again thank you for sharing this brilliant video lecture. I humbly await your your next video lecture.

[@ResTAnimous]

Are we sure these rules will be in LA 2028 or they will maybe change some stuffs before olympics ?

[@matkobarbarich2971]

After Budapest Judo Word cup in june/july the rules will be update

[@uwisser]

Usually rules can change up to the start of the Olympic qualification period (= two years before the games)

[@christiangerhardt2408]

May BJJ never become part of the Olympics. May it always stay in the private sector hands.

[@raphaelgracia551]

Some of the rules in bjj also suck hard. Guard pulling is quite ugly.

[@npaprika1]

Competition drives growth and fairness

[@Katcom111]

It is already in the World Games because the International Ju-Jitsu Federation (JJIF) is the only governing body involved.

[@npaprika1]

@@Katcom111 IBJJF doesn’t have near-total market share like the IJF does. Private bodies get more views than IBJJF events (ADCC, CJI, and many other notable private events)

[@houssedecouette4056]

BJJ is one of the ugliest sports to watch , a battle of guard pulling and who will fatigue first

[@Jegemurk]

I've never really understood this distinction. So kodokan has different rules that IJF correect? Then in Japan (or anywhere), do some schools specifically teach Kodokan and not IJF rules?

[@lnie14]

Chadi you know so many people in the community. Why don’t you organize a petition to the IJF to adopt Kodokan rules? I think a lot of people would be glad to sign it

[@danle3181]

That was not Kodokan rules. It was the All Japan Championship rules as far as I know.

[@WayneManifesto]

With how they do the rule changes in the past, this might just be a testing of the waters before more is implemented

[@faizantahir6228]

Why ijf fixated on neglecting 50% of body?

[@przemekmarczak4722]

Everything will take place as the leg grabs are part of the judo. Changes and adaptations will be coming including the legs grabbing techniques.

[@mritchie85]

Just bring leg attacks back, they are as much part of Judo as any other type of throw. Just stipulate that grips on the Kimono must be had before the throw is attempted to disqualify Freestyle Wrestling style shooting and perhaps the knees must not touch the ground when the legs are taken to stop low level shots.

[@hermanstrydom3519]

What about katagaruma when dropping on your knees.

[@johnmcadam7493]

BJJ Buddies: BJJ is looking to become an Olympic Sport !!!! Whoot Whoot !!! Me: Don't f*cking bother. Shintaro: I would guess that the ratio of Judo: BJJ is a factor of 5x or 10x Shinatro's guest: Try 100X Shintaro: "!" Kids are choosing BJJ or wrestling over Judo. They come to Judo simply to learn ashi-waza, o-soto, kouchi, tai-tosh, tani otoshi, ippon, and kata guruma. In 10 years, you are going to see BJJ morph into something I would call AJJ: American Jiu-Jitsu with it's heavy wrestling emphasis. The world of martial arts is changing. Adapt or become irrelevent.

[@Wind.celestial9842]

3:47 feels like bro hug

[@christiangerhardt2408]

Olympic judo this year was a competition in who can turtle better.

[@barryirlandi4217]

Glad I am not the only one

[@christophergallimore5529]

hey, hey.... That red belt needs to watch where his hands go

[@NickKano11]

I think what it comes down to is that the IJF has no incentive to bring these techniques back

[@ClwnJuNkY]

It doesnt take much to start a new Judo tournement with open rules ! Bring back the leg grabs !

[@piotrula1480]

Can you go for kata guruma geipping the hip area from the inside?

[@Majin_Doh]

That’s considered hooking - no .

[@bustercrabbe8447]

Judo is a martial art and not a sport. I hope those new IJF rules are street effective. You take Judo to protect yourself in a street attack, not as a spectator sport.

[@herculesmwp7983]

That is all dependent on the dojo you train at, not the IJF or the Kodokan

[@thomass.4007]

@@bustercrabbe8447 it’s upright. When allowing leg grabs you’d have to allow knees to the face too, otherwise ppl bend down ridiculously. Modern Olympic judo is great for self defense since judoka basically grapple in a striking stance

[@badart3204]

Judo is a sport and specifically had the excessively dangerous techniques from the older combative Jujitsu’s it came from removed so that it could be practiced safely. The founder was an educator not a military instructor

[@NDOhioan]

​@@thomass.4007In that case, the upright stance is a plague on the art and needs to go the way of the dinosaurs.

[@paulstarstarpaul5700]

Judo is a martial art but it’s also an Olympic combat sport. Not everyone only does Judo because they want to protect themselves „in the streets“. Just because that’s you that doesn’t meant it’s everyone. Also the IJF is responsible for Judo as a sport and while upholding the integrity of Judo is definitely one of their criteria for rules it’s only one of many that also should be fulfilled. A comprehensive ruleset therefore is necessary and makes sense.

[@MistahMolosser]

Really disappointing

[@alexandrehuat773]

I wish that judo clubs stopped following the IJF rules. It's up to them.

[@alexandrehuat773]

At this level of precision this is non-sense. It's almost like "the hand cannot be 7.43 cm below the belt". This should be about allowing or disallowing techniques, that is patterns of forces × handles. Once again Jigoro Kano would surely not validate the IJF's approach of judo.

[@BillyTheKidsGhost]

The youko is the only thing people like

[@francisconikotian2326]

no double legs?

[@tuomasvaarala2080]

I think you are missing a bit of perspective thinking bringing back leg grabs to judo would be progressive. Leg grabbing is very dominant technique and as juniors we were very much focused on that and never learned proper kumikata and upright judo. I'm happy that the full on leg grabbing is not back as I think it would make competitive judo less entertaining. It's a good additiong that you can grab the hip area to avoid unneccessary shidos.

[@Col17B]

The Kodokan ruleset is far superior, the IJF have diluted judo and removed some of the best techniques from competition which is just a nonsense.

[@Joel-xt5yz]

English says you can grab above the knee as what I understand, but clearly IJF need to learn how to speak proper English first before they talk about judo

[@7Alberto7]

Kodokan got it perfect Ijf 🤮 And it is even worse because it is going to be a complete mess to teach and explain this immense mountain of crap to our younger judoka in the dojo I really like yuko back tho,that part is awesome

[@albertoandujar1732]

Involución y tantas restricciones del judo,en unos cuantos años Nadie hará judo,y más habiendo, otras artes de agarre, sin tantas restricciones,y con mucha mejor evolución

[@ommin6757]

Are they trying to ruin Judo.

[@danle3181]

A bunch of old farts ruling judo and therefore killing it.

[@AlunsSomatics]

The IJF should be preserving that which was created by Jigoro Kano. Banning any form of touching the legs is disrespectfully discarding a substantial chunk of the gokyo he worked so hard to develop. I remember the Olympics before leg grabs were banned. The competitors were bending so low their noses were almost touching the tatami. The only attacks available to them in this position were leg grabs. The IJF chose the least intelligent answer to the problem. They should have banned bending so low which would have resulted in other techniques becoming more readily available. Now it's a mess of alternative techniques to get around the rules.

[@AlunsSomatics]

And speaking of postures. Judo was built on the principle of Seiryoku Zenyo, or Maximum Efficiency. The most efficient posture in the gravity field is the upright posture. In the flow of an attack it is natural to move out of upright, but this position should not be maintained when not moving because it uses up too much energy. We must always return to the most easily maintained shizenhontai if only momentarily before attacking or avoiding. The upright posture should also be used as a weapon, Yamashita's posture being a prime example.

[@jon7222]

Why do you all of you even care what the IJF says the rules are? Judo is greater than these bullshit rules. I'll never understand people that only train "sport" approved throws. The question still stands though.

[@moonrunrs]

Judo is a joke now. For jacket grappling throws it's better to do sombo if you can find a school. Do bjj for ne waza.

[@Jake-pm3pz]

Judo without leg grabs is still one of the most effective martial arts

[@Kriegter]

@@Jake-pm3pz true but why ignore 50% of the human body when grappling

[@azazelreficulmefistofelicu7158]

​@@Jake-pm3pz"Judo without leg grabs" is not Judo. Judo have a set of rules for competition, I agree. You learn Judo, then chop it for competition.

[@marty6522]

I think you're confusing Judo with the IJF rules for competition. Judo is effective if you train it effectively,; but if you train for silly rules, that's on you!

[@vindicatedafi]

So I need to do 2 grappling arts to equal what judo could potentially be/was? Too much money and too much time. They just need to bring leg grabs back

[@kananisha]

So you can't actually grab the leg, like kuchiki doshi for example?

[@lnie14]

#BoycottTheIJF

[@aqiria]

Kodokan is only bringing leg grabs back for the open weight all japan, not for anything else. I don't know how people expect leg grabs to come back and all the athletes to adapt to this drastic change (also bent over posture and sloppy attacks that it would bring).

[@squblesgaming2382]

Sloppy attacks?? Have you seen the amount of sloppy panic drop seoi people do in the current rule set to avoid shidos for inactivity. At least with leg grabs we would have got some really high amplitude spectacular throws like Kata garuma back

[@thomass.4007]

@@squblesgaming2382 drop seois was much more common before leg grab ban. Now you see more and more judoka like Lombardo, Abe etc use standing version, since nobody can grab your balls and throw te guruma if you turn in. Drop and flop was a complete different level back than. And the false attacks are adressed by the new rules changes

[@chrisprad8325]

@@thomass.4007you’re advocating for a neutered, less effective form of Judo

[@Ivalid321]

As hard as it sounds, but who cares how it affects the olympic Athlets, except the olympic athlets? why should the 95% who want to train and use the whole system be held back by the 5% of professional athletes , especially since they dont bring in new guys to the Sport?

[@aqiria]

@@squblesgaming2382 I think those panic attacks would be amplified way more with leg grabs. But they addressed false attacks very logically today at the seminar, it seems the referees are going to be way more strict assessing those from now on.

[@samythegrappler3297]

I think they don’t know how to deal with it exactly, everybody (even olympians) want the 90’s-2000’s judo come back, but they don’t want to do this directly, they try and maybe these « new » rules are like a test

[@combatprinciplesmma]

Just do bjj

[@thomass.4007]

The new rules are amazing. You dudes should just do Sambo or BJJ if you wanna crawl around, they are also just forms of judo and it’s good we have them. But Olympic Judo is UPRIGHT!

[@christiangerhardt2408]

Ja very upright. That's why so many athletes fell on the floor on their own.

[@thomass.4007]

@ it was much much more early 2000s

[@DADAMEN]

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