The New Kia EV9 Looks Great And Has a Ton of Insane Features...But Is It All Too Much?

[@J26-e6g]

We bought a GT Pantera grey in December 2023. One of the first ones in the state. We have 9000 miles on it, and have driven it way past Vail and back to Highlands Ranch without charging. This car is truly deserving of the vehicle of the year awards, best of the best. Truly an amazing vehicle. We get about 320 miles on a charge. My wife raced a RAM TRX in an on-ramp and pulled away from it! Oh, and we passed on the electric second row seats, because they moved slow and cost an additional $3k, Kia warranty is also 100,000 or ten years! If you’re complaining about price, a Rivian is like $20k more. Totally love your channel, been watching for like 8 years. I watch you all until my legs fall asleep while on the toilet.

[@rnyquist406]

Roman is going full grandpa and is now a technology victim

[@AnthonyGale]

Roman complained way too much. I've never sat in a car and immediately knew how to operate everything. KIA did an amazing job with the EV9.

[@KaizenMethod]

I think he properly represented his generation's attitude

[@pulvermacher80]

I think they are doing the good cop bad cop kinda thing to make the video more interesting

[@craig8638]

Holy crap Roman. My 85-year-old mother just got a new iPhone and paired it with her Apple Watch and uses that watch to pay for everything. You don’t think she could figure this car out if she owned it?

[@p.matthew5293]

It took me 1-2 weeks to get comfortable with all the controls. They were easy to learn. We love the ottomans, kids use it all the time on road trips. The pull out handles prevent kids from pulling on them over and over until you unlock the car. 😊 It is definitely a great family car and the lease deal is amazing compared to Rivian.

[@TFLEV]

Glad to hear you’re enjoying all the features!

[@Pothole500]

Roman needs to stop with this crap take on cars. Just because you cannot figure it out in two minutes doesn’t mean it’s bad. Normal people have cars for years at a time. He does it all the time, and it’s never been valid.

[@reidd6572]

Agree 100%. At least Tommy sets him straight.

[@itsjustderek]

THE TENSION IS REAL BETWEEN TOMMY AND HIS DAD 😬

[@ScantyMantis989]

Fr

[@brittgayle467]

This isn’t new. But his dad was right this time; most people aren’t willing to spend a month to learn the controls and car reviewers likely are able to faster familiarize themselves with cars, so if they’re struggling then the average consumer who doesn’t watch review videos will struggle.

[@rst9649]

@@brittgayle467 I have the EV6 and the screen size and UI is pretty much the same and I don't find it complicated at all. It took me like a few days to familiarize myself with all the menu items.

[@brittgayle467]

@@rst9649I have an Ioniq 5 and had a similar experience. But we aren’t average consumers, which is why we’re watching these videos!

[@laoking8553]

I leased this SUV 3 weeks ago. It took me 2 days at most to familiarize the controls. If you're an anti tech boomer you arent looking at EVs anyways.

[@darville7521]

I am currently leasing a KIA EV9 GT Line. It’s my first EV. On the positive side are : very fast charging with a sustained 200 kw plus charging curve to about 65 % SOC, quiet ride, competent and reliable driver assist systems, huge cabin space and decent seats. On the downside side is maneuverability in tight parking spaces, high beam assist is not a set and forget option, the lane assist cannot cope with tight bends on highway conditions, but above all the power usage at constant 130 kmh speeds, the speed limit detector is useless and the route planning is not up to date. The car is well built and draws attention. Cheers from overcast Switzerland.

[@brokeboy87]

Getting a owners insight on this is very useful information for others.

[@AffableAlpaca]

Roman's "old man dislikes that vehicles are getting more featureful" shtick is getting a bit tired. These vehicles aren't be marketed at people with that mindset.

[@craig8638]

His anti EV stick is getting old.

[@Big_DT]

I paid $68k out the door for an EV9 Land, the trim level just below the GT. We had a Jaguar F-Pace that was my wife's everyday driver. More grandkids on the way meant we wanted a 3 row vehicle and this fit the bill. My wife is 60 years old and doesn't have any trouble driving or working the things that are important to her. As far as we're concerned, this is the best vehicle we have owned. We've taken a couple of road trips and that has its own unique set of challenges, but that has more to do with current state of EV infrastructure in the US than the vehicle. Bravo Kia.

[@georgeh6856]

The older guy is bitching for no reason. A common complaint is that features are hidden beneath multiple layers of options in touchscreens. Now, Kia has laid out separate screens and buttons so that you don't have to fiddle with multiple layers as much. And this older guy is still complaining! I guess he wants thousands of physical buttons, one for each option? He sounds like he will never be happy.

[@craig8638]

Roman’s anti-EV stick is getting old. Let Tommy take over the EV channel. Every freaking time he reviews an electric vehicle heat brings up some major negative or his shows his bias.

[@Malc664]

Wow, that wasn't awkward. Tommy did fantastic to kind of save this video. And good videography from Mary.

[@jteternal2]

All cars n truck are way overpriced

[@JimThompson-i3u]

My theory is trucks are priced to offset the losses in manufacturing EVs.

[@brokeboy87]

@@JimThompson-i3u Tesla rolled out with it's car while trucks were still affordable, nearly a decade ago. The safety/ technology and luxury features is driving up the cost.

[@JimThompson-i3u]

@@brokeboy87 All that tech is being put into place for control & surveillance. There will be distance limits, mileage allotments, and prohibited days of the week.

[@APEXistud]

⁠@@JimThompson-i3uSurveillance? Really? If that’s your concern and you have a smartphone, you’ve been “surveilled” for quite sometime. 🤷🏾‍♂️🫤

[@danieldornes8416]

Ha Ha! When Roman said the controls were going to cause mother/grandmother to be "flustered," all I could think of was my mother in 1972 being "flustered" by how to reset the LED clock on the VCR. Really, though, I don't think this vehicle's displays and controls appeared any more difficult than a lot of the other new cars you guys review.

[@Rossco84]

Roman you gotta chill 😂 “you’re getting too much for your money! I don’t like it” 😂

[@jharris280zx]

Hey Roman, the elderly are buying sedans, big suv is being bought by younger people who need 3 rows and have different taste in design and technology preferences. Price is rather crazy, 80k for KIA? The Hyundai's are supposed to be higher end. The Genesis line is really nice.

[@planesandbikes7353]

Price is not crazy really, esp with the entry model at 60k. Tesla is charging 81k-96k for Model X which to me is not more car.

[@brokeboy87]

if your looking at sticker yes it's a crazy price. but most dealerships are discounting these on top of state and federal rebates. The Gt-line probably isn't the one to get for most people.

[@Longsnowsm]

This is the kind of vehicle I expected Ford to lead the market with. Instead Kia brings it? Ford cancelled their 3 row SUV? The world is upside down. Nice to see Mary in the vids. She has a great personality, hope to see her more in the videos. The price is a little too high on these, but once the competition heats up these prices should drop.

[@jaeyocho]

Rivian starts at 78k. So....

[@robertcook7144]

While Roman is still grating and a bit blunt, I have to say that I agree with him regarding the controls. I hate capacitive touch in cars. Some things need, need, to be simple and familiar between vehicles. There should be an expectation of familiarity when getting behind the wheel of any car.

[@volcalstone]

2:44 Roman I like you a lot and been but please let Tommy talk about the upcoming GT trim. He totally forgot about it afterwards. ☺️

[@MrChrissercamaro]

Roman, there is no such thing as too much power! What are you 1,000 years old?🤣

[@AHungryHunky]

As a 30yr old, I agree with Roman's old man points about the screens and haptics. My current car has both physical and digital controls, I have attempted both and the physical are just far superior and faster for adjusting while driving. If i see my car is set to 75 and I want it set to 70 i just turn the knob 5 clicks and can do that with just a quick glance. The screen control requires me to go into a menu, then look again to see where i need to press. Its just a longer more distracting process regardless of how you try to spin it. "If you are paying 70k they have to justify the price" And that's exactly it Tommy, my Base model Acadia has more than I need to be comfortable. The seats are comfortable, its climate control works quickly and has 3 zones that almost never deviate from the primary zone. Cars are getting far more features than anyone actually needs or will use to justify crazy prices. Sometimes I just want a decent sized car that can haul both my children AND the larger items that don't fit inside regular compact SUVs and hatches. I think all of these features are cool, but i personally will never have a use for them. Just give me a reasonably comfortable 2 row with 35 cubic feet of cargo or more. After that you can keep your fancy liftgates and even your electronic seats, take to long to adjust and for some reason I can never find a spot I am happy with, especially the lumbar support which seems to dig in on even it's lowest setting. The one luxery feature I want is remote start via phone since I live in PA where seasonal temps can swing between 100°+ with 90% humidity and -10°.

[@AHungryHunky]

On a positive light (YT won't let me add more to my original post) I would like to say, I like the size and style of this vehicle. And Roman, I drove my Jeep Renegade for 3 days after using one of those kits so don't knock em, but I do prefer a full spare if there is space. If I had the budget and place to charge it would be a consideration for a replacement to my Acadia (if I hadn't just bought that myself) since it seems to be on the smaller side for a 3 row, and I really don't want a "3 row", just the larger cargo area you get with the 3rd row down.

[@Drumox]

I've ordered a Wind. It made the decision easier because I wanted the bench in the middle

[@wtnman4783]

I'm probably older than Roman, and leased one for 3yrs to use as my snowbirding traveler so I can haul my stuff for 6months. I'm having NO issues with the tech...in fact wish it had a few more things. So think he's a techo ludite. The EV9 is great. Yes the price is not attractive for a GT, but I got the Light Long Range version, one step up from the base and then gain 304 mile range.

[@brokeboy87]

Alex from the Auto buyers guide had a car like this for 3 years and never got used to the ac/ audio controls. I agree with Tommy that the long range or with Wind Trim is the way to go on this one. as long as your leasing these.

[@bluecement]

Yea, I hated the gear selector for Honda Pilot at first. But you know what, I got used to it and never thought about it again! Same for this vehicle!

[@gregpochet4812]

Most of the EV9s in my area (Northern VA) are discounted $12k-$14k. So you can get a Land AWD for $59k-$61k and a Light LR RWD for $53k

[@2009MigyFl]

I think it is a nice three rows car for $68k. Isn't that bad. After all you guys spend $100k on the Cyber"truck". But I guess it is all about prospective and points of views.

[@smithjones1906]

Agree w/ Roman in this case. Cars should be more intuitive at this point. Certain things did not require reinventing. Also agree with him regarding the aesthetic. Not a vehicle for me, in any way.

[@Duurti]

See I'm with Tommy here (and I'm more inline with Romans age than Tommies). If you drive a vehicle for a week you know it inside and out. When you change all the time things can get confusing to find. Currently I don't own a vehicle I rent for weekends when I need one, and every time i have to spend a bit of time getting to know it, and usually still finding new things by the end of my time with it.

[@CrumResearch]

$78K but with attractive leasing, good points here in this video. When will EV9 get the Tesla NACS charging connector? Any off-road AT tire option?

[@dawnproduction1577]

Supposedly in early 2025. We just leased a Land and any purchases from Sept on get the adapter free when available.

[@BrettBreeden]

Unclear when the EV9 will actually have the connector itself. Kia has announced that Tesla charging will open up for Kia vehicles on Jan 15, 2025, and if you purchase now you will (eventually) get the adapter free.

[@BoxySUV]

It seems like every EV these days must have leather seats-cloth isn’t even an option. And in hot climates, a glass roof can turn the interior into an oven, making the AC work overtime. Are we prioritizing efficiency, or just following trends?

[@markshellard]

You need Mary on camera more. I would love to hear her thoughts on this after a week.

[@ribbit1964]

Really like the father/son, old/new chemistry and dynamic from Roman, the TFL OG, and son Tommy. Reinventing the wheel isn’t normally something that goes over well and appeals to too small a niche I think the EV9 lands somewhere in between the impression from Roman and enthusiasm from Tommy. Ahh youth wasted on the young! I’m not an EV fan so it wouldn’t appeal to me in general but I think the looks would get dated too quickly. I also think that at $80k there are more practical options

[@CrumResearch]

AC outlets? What max power, 1500W? Great comparison with Rivian R1S. Suitable for control by open source Openpilot, perhaps.

[@regandamien]

I have a Tesla and a Polestar now. My next car (EV) will be Hyundai or Kia for two reasons. 1) Relaxation chair 2)V2L

[@Angelboy99]

This daily driver vehicle is a modern take of the family van. Its lower for kids and smaller people and is packed with gadgets to keep all the passengers and driver occupied. Ramp up will be fast as they make money on each EV9 sold so they most be doing something right.

[@shawnwhite2572]

There's nothing wrong with having physical buttons and knobs. My Bolt has them and I think they're a good idea. I hate the haptic buttons, my gen 1 Volt had them and they were really just a gimmick. I don't know, I just don't like controlling things through a touchscreen. The glare and fingerprints get annoying.

[@aussie2uGA]

Seems like car makers are starting to price these things like the "Rack Rate" notice posted on the back of your hotel door.

[@VishnuKamath]

This car is excellent for the money. It has a lot of features. Great for big families and road trip except the Charging. I hope this doesn't break.

[@jijhu857]

I have my ev9 gt now 2 weeks yes I still didn’t know everything about the car but it’s really great car for the price if you compare to those German cars

[@LifeAfterLosing]

You also have now the Vinfast VF9 for 3 row EV.

[@Chris-bg8mk]

Vinfast not nearly ready for prime time.

[@nigelsturge6707]

I wish all car manufacturers would follow Kia’s lead they charge astronomical prices for the little features they have when all cars have leather and big screens.

[@StevenGresser]

I really like the EV9 but the price on the upper trims is a bit hard to get over. Unfortunately the blue isn’t available on the lower trims.

[@dougvaughan818]

Love the father son arguing

[@bluecement]

This proves that Kia is going in the right direction

[@gqami]

The lines, and size look just like my 2024 Hyundai Santa Fe. Probably same frame/chassis, possibly. Lots of similarities. $70k - yikes! I'll take my Calligraphy Hybrid EV. Great video guys.

[@DL-iy3lf]

EV9 looks great, but waiting for LFP battery version

[@Bum_Hip]

Seems like this should have been under the Genius brand. It has very cool features, but premium badging would make more sense.

[@mtbse789]

Love the vehicle, hate the price.

[@Kahless00]

"I think the design is too brash" happy cybertruck owner

[@gregpochet4812]

The EV9 does not come with a hitch. Thats a add on for $1500 I think. That should be standard on all 3-Row SUVs.

[@chipper6729]

Everyone thinks they need to reinvent the shifter. That stock is better than a turn knob on the console

[@yacineatroune]

Is this Canada or US ?

[@markshellard]

Love my LAND matte blue!!! ❤

[@JPnavarro15]

I get mine 3 week ago for a Total of 12k for a 2 year lease.. one time lease. Pretty good deal. Also was the Land version with relaxation packages and all seat electric. Also and the end of the lease we can buy it for 45k here on Colorado.

[@coenmoon-id6rm]

Love this EV

[@ericanderson1753]

You won’t find 400 miles of range on a Rivian unless you drop at least $90k. Standard pack R1S is EPA 270.

[@olivierhiers4224]

Great Video! Based in Wisconsin, it does not seems like i find these great deals on lease, anyone has a dealership to reference in Wisconsin or close by?

[@planesandbikes7353]

I'd like this vehicle as a 2 seater for max cargo room. Instead of heavy electric captains chairs in the back, why not light thin seats that can hide under the floor or easily removed?

[@MrHemikid426]

I found a used GT-Line used with 600 miles for 62k. Looks like these EVs are really keeping up the resale value. My take is that these SUVs are not going to sell very well in this trim at 80k. I'm just saying.

[@scottdvorak5606]

Admittedly, the layout and functionality of the dash has problems. The Haptic Touch buttons are too easy to hit accidentally. I have heard complaints about the HVAC controls on the touch screen. I personally had trouble using the volume control on a test drive. Having said that, all cars take a little getting used to. I found the shifter super easy. The seat warmer and cooler buttons are perfectly useable. Roman… one older guy to another, I think you’re being a little cranky. Sorry dude.

[@MrHemikid426]

The rear seats reclined remind me of a dentist chair. Now I can get my tooth pulled while in the back of my KIA.

[@ambee514]

The RWD long range models of EV’s cover the needs of +90% of the population. The top of the line AWD high HP models are cool and all but ultimately they are a waste of money for most people.

[@momastx]

Noticed your color matched moonswatch. Cool

[@karlInSanDiego]

Roman, no human being on the face of the Earth resells a car because they can't figure it out. Do you know how much money you lose flipping a car? Of course you do.

[@Hosanie88]

If I got a third row vehicle. I would like it to fit seven or more. My truck fits six passengers.

[@MJ-ef9bn]

The range is 280?

[@alexkleine9737]

Why can't anyone look at the mid range models? Why is it only the top of the line low selling models?

[@anthonymitchell9337]

There is no way that Roman did not know the cost of that car

[@amigatommy7]

The tesla mistake of not enough buttons and nobs.

[@georgeh6856]

2:06 It even has a body-colored windshield washer cap! (sorry)

[@ram64man]

This why a hydrogen/hybrid ev is essential than just battery powered

[@ericanderson1753]

Can be had for $68,165 at my local Kia dealer.

[@shilvock22]

The EV9 is about 50 miles of range and a lightening style frunk away from being a home run. As it sits now it's just too compromised and expensive for the capability it brings.

[@drnick40]

For that kind of money the Volkswagen Buzz is much better 3 row, much roomier EV. And it looks really cool.

[@niceguyrides]

0% chance of me paying 78K for a Kia.

[@jamesonpace726]

Ah, youth. Everything old is new again & there's nothing new under the sun....

[@kirbycairo]

I would like to have an EV but the process are crazy

[@lawdog516]

PLEASE, give me real BUTTONS !!!!!!! PLEASE !!!!

[@cdotmonster]

i think it looks cool. wish i had the money to buy one.

[@larryspiller15]

Model X should be listed as a competitor if this is 78k

[@scotthall1381]

Not really that is a base model 5 seater non 3 row X, This is the top of the line EV9, the comparable X is almost is 87.5 with the 6 seater option, the 79k X will compare to 65k EV9

[@didierstrijdonk5466]

So first impression from watching this video: This car was made for young people. Young people don't typically have that kind of money. Kia has been doing an amazing job at all their other EVs. Here's to hoping that "dad" is wrong about the dashboard being overwhelming. That said, it's the unnecessarily gargantuan size and the hefty price tag that bother me most.

[@therodfather916]

Im older than Roman and he's making me old. He adjusted to the Tesla, I cant imagine a car that is more confusing.

[@ScantyMantis989]

I like the looks

[@tdavis5951]

That is NOT Case. Who is camera blondie? I missed somethin. 🤦‍♂️

[@EwanV]

Too many unneeded toys, just to push the price up! I was watching the electric motor slide forward the 2nd row seat so slowly and remembering the 70s when manual tilt and slide entry to the rear seats was the norm, and essentially instant. Motorised lift gate on the rear? 2 struts and a pull strap (for those too small to reach the handle). Thousands in options that aren't needed and make the vehicle expensive. And when Roman said it's too small...

[@cinthe3]

Everyone wants a vehicle like this for 20k. But damn that's cybertruck money!

[@flyby3964]

Roman, please relax, it's just a review an N'4 motion video, ur gonna giv ur self a heart attack! Please we don't need u getting sic on us

[@user-rw7xd7qy3j]

My Hyundai Tucson just self-exploded. Never again

[@CrumResearch]

PHEV version of this EV9 would be very versatile.

[@9663mu]

No way to kia and Heyindie

[@coenmoon-id6rm]

Too much? Check other evs with less features cost 20k more? Make any sense?

[@mrgurulittle7000]

Nice paper weight. I don’t see this thing ever going off road or on trips. This would most likely be a soccer mom shopper cart and one that’s over 78k. Not a wise choice financially or in any way I can think of. It’s a Kia too. Ew.

[@OmeroGuerrero]

78k no way, get a Rivian R1S instead

[@JohnCap523]

Compared to the actual competition, yes it’s worth it. Compared to a Tellurude, not sure. All new EVs are still overpriced, including $35,000 Teslas.

[@jonascampelo871]

In Europe the EV9 is a fleat and company car, no private owners.

[@MrHemikid426]

That will sell really well. Sorta like the Fisker SUV. It cost a lot initially but is really cheap now. Way to go KIA.

[@ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation]

2DAYs AUTOmakers are creating > Half A$$ Built Air Plane that cant FLY = The FUTURE that $ucks U Dry

[@milspecrider]

Still getting Kia Soul vibes

[@clarkwgriswold157]

Seen a few of those on the road over here. Great looking vehicle.