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27 күн бұрын

Of the 335 new MPs, who are the future big beasts that we should be keeping an eye out for?
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@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 26 күн бұрын
Could do a bit editing here and show us the pictures of the people you're talking about. It's good to have a face to the name
@Ben-db5re
@Ben-db5re 26 күн бұрын
What about working class MPs? Only 8 Labour MP’s this Parliament were from blue collar backgrounds… I don’t discredit those new MP’s with degrees, PHDs or fancy roles in think tanks, I just think there not very representative of the wider population. You could argue the reason reform did so well is because ordinary people didn’t see people like themselves on the ballot paper!
@jpc2470
@jpc2470 25 күн бұрын
Nigel Farage was privately educated, and the son of a stockbroker. Richard Tice is the son of a philanthropist. I get what you mean, but a lot of the key players in Reform are just cosplaying at being working class.
@Dayrile123
@Dayrile123 25 күн бұрын
I think they're the most working class cabinet ever? Sure, they're well educated, but that doesn't change the fact that most went to state school.
@boxtradums0073
@boxtradums0073 25 күн бұрын
@@Dayrile123yet all sound the same 🤣 grammar schools aka brainwashing schools for the working class so the middle and upperclass can act like they believe in social mobility 😉. There are also lots of nepo babies in there too
@user-wb4eo4lk4g
@user-wb4eo4lk4g 24 күн бұрын
​@@jpc2470Ben did not state otherwise. It is still the reason Reform got elected because Farage is hypocritical and tries to present as an ordinary person (he also believes in Brexit so much he wants his children to have German passports). However well he does, it still makes him look more grounded than most.
@ianwoodall4523
@ianwoodall4523 26 күн бұрын
You missed Chris Bloore, the Labour MP for Redditch. He's a returning expat. He ran the Ontario tourist board through Covid and is widely credited with saving that sector from collapse. He is 41, bright and very able. If I were recommending his skills I would suggest the whips office. His people management skills are really good.
@jamesprice4647
@jamesprice4647 25 күн бұрын
You mean immigrant
@ym10up
@ym10up 25 күн бұрын
​@@jamesprice4647 I don't think he's an immigrant. He was on a job in Ontario when lockdown happened so he was stuck there and kept doing the job
@stephfoxwell4620
@stephfoxwell4620 24 күн бұрын
@@ianwoodall4523 And Sue Gray's son. Liam Conlon.
@wildfire9280
@wildfire9280 24 күн бұрын
@@ym10up I think expatriation falls under immigration.
@briandelaney9710
@briandelaney9710 25 күн бұрын
All middle class or upper middle class. Well , it is the New Statesmen
@boxtradums0073
@boxtradums0073 25 күн бұрын
One man too 🤣🤣. Notice how all the ethnic groups are over represented well except for Scots of course 🙄
@cathygarlick9321
@cathygarlick9321 26 күн бұрын
Yuan Yang is now my MP - a big improvement on Redwood.
@jonbob2
@jonbob2 26 күн бұрын
Darren Jones (Bristol North) is definitely worth watching.
@zedrake
@zedrake 26 күн бұрын
My first thought as well but he’s not new by the criteria they’re going off of
@stephfoxwell4620
@stephfoxwell4620 25 күн бұрын
You cannot be taken seriously if called Darren.
@oliverraven
@oliverraven 25 күн бұрын
It's Bristol North West and as @zedrake said, he's been an MP since 2017 so not eligible for this topic.
@thecrimsondragon9744
@thecrimsondragon9744 25 күн бұрын
@@stephfoxwell4620Imagine that, ‘Prime Minister Dazza’ 😂😂 He’s a great chap though
@l33jcm
@l33jcm 26 күн бұрын
We're tired of not listening to experts!
@strikeforcealpha9343
@strikeforcealpha9343 26 күн бұрын
here here.
@andybrice2711
@andybrice2711 26 күн бұрын
I'd say it depends. We need experts. But expertise must be demonstrated, not just asserted.
@old.not.too.grumpy.
@old.not.too.grumpy. 25 күн бұрын
Sexist and far too London centred discussion. Life exists outside London. Great work is done outside London As the majority of MPs come from outside of London this discussion would only be valid if it hadn't been limited to the narrow group who these people know
@macarfs
@macarfs 23 күн бұрын
The biggest benefit of banning the polls would be that commentators might talk about what the parties are offering rathe than just their polling numbers. It was relentless, i barely heard any analysis of policy and had daily poll updates.
@jasonkoch3182
@jasonkoch3182 25 күн бұрын
Polls can’t be wrong. Polls show what the electorate is thinking during the polling period. They aren’t intended to be predictive. There’s clearly a lot of people who wanted a Labour government but tactical voting may have caused them to not vote Labour in their constituency. And again, the parties in the left got the majority of the vote, just like the polls had shown consistently.
@TerriObrien-mi5rx
@TerriObrien-mi5rx 26 күн бұрын
Darren Jones Brilliant 🎉
@robinstevenson6690
@robinstevenson6690 26 күн бұрын
Good show.
@stephfoxwell4620
@stephfoxwell4620 24 күн бұрын
What about Liam Conlon. Son of Sue Gray. Media kept that one quiet.
@Pikaling3408
@Pikaling3408 18 күн бұрын
You missed out Joani Reid, Labour MP for East Kilbride and Strathaven. She is the granddaughter of Jimmy Reid and she could be a future big player in Scottish politics most probably a potential future First Minister. Nice that you covered Yuan Yang though.
@andrewclimo5709
@andrewclimo5709 26 күн бұрын
There's a real risk of picking people that come from the political centre. Given that London has colossal wealth but the periphery holds some of the poorest regions in Europe, I'd like to see some new blood from some of the talented people from Wales, Cornwall, the Highlands, and similar areas.
@boxtradums0073
@boxtradums0073 25 күн бұрын
They aren’t interested in Scotland which is why the only cabinet position that went to a Scottish MP was the Scottish secretary 🙄. Other groups over represented though, surprise surprise
@edwardmclaughlin7935
@edwardmclaughlin7935 26 күн бұрын
The next big players. When do we get to find out what game they are playing?
@bob1234881
@bob1234881 26 күн бұрын
When they write a book about it. 😂 Truth is one really never knows. Someone that is just in it for the money or ego never say, but neither do those that are super caring.
@jimmeltonbradley1497
@jimmeltonbradley1497 26 күн бұрын
If you look at their backgrounds you will see that they are driven by social justice, not ideology.
@jasonuren3479
@jasonuren3479 26 күн бұрын
That's a very good question. I'd start by asking who's directing Starmer, and go from there.
@edwardmclaughlin7935
@edwardmclaughlin7935 26 күн бұрын
@@jimmeltonbradley1497 The drive for 'social justice' is heavily-laden with ideology.
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 26 күн бұрын
It's the same establishment neo liberal game the Tories have been playing
@maxhaughton1964
@maxhaughton1964 25 күн бұрын
Torsten Bell is supposedly the man who gave us the "Ed Stone"
@edwarddavies4745
@edwarddavies4745 25 күн бұрын
Very varied who they chose to be impressive.... Alastair Campbell's nephew, daughter of Philip Gould and son of Lord Falconer now MPs. How did they get into politics..... Very impressive....Angela Reyner getting into politics is impressive. I literally just expect the others to be there. Daddy wouldn't have it any other way.
@Pikaling3408
@Pikaling3408 19 күн бұрын
and the granddaughter of Jimmy Reid as well.
@ian_b5518
@ian_b5518 25 күн бұрын
What a positive take away. Nice to get that in politics now.
@MiPointIs
@MiPointIs 25 күн бұрын
It’s good to see so many Labour MPs with strong educational and political backgrounds.
@MrSpasticdancer
@MrSpasticdancer 26 күн бұрын
without polling tactical voting is much harder
@Alwaysunderablanket
@Alwaysunderablanket 24 күн бұрын
This could have been interesting but the lack of photos means I have no better idea who these people are after watching than I had before.
@dereks1264
@dereks1264 25 күн бұрын
Despite the Tories constant bleating about Labour having "no plan", it's obvious they had a detailed vision and plan.
@sandyellis28
@sandyellis28 26 күн бұрын
Would be good to know impact of voter ID & also issues around postal votes. Think the Tories are responsible for the huge disillusionment with politics that we’ve seen on streets & turnout. The whole Lab supermajority campaign too will have had an impact. Very very excited by the new talent in HoC esp Miatta F & Torsten Bell. Imagine what Rachel Reeves, Darren Jones & new two can do on the economy 💛.
@boxtradums0073
@boxtradums0073 25 күн бұрын
Hand even more money over to the private sector for second jobs
@jtrevm
@jtrevm 26 күн бұрын
Fascinating. New govt being populated by can-do technocratic players who have earned their stripes outside of 'pure' politics - or impure politics. Admired. Thinkers. Etc. But the final bit is the personal skills. Starmer doesn't suffer fools gladly and plans. Can the newbies get their job done and weed out the passengers / idiocy?
@boxtradums0073
@boxtradums0073 25 күн бұрын
There are several nepo babies in the Labour Party 🤣🤣🤣
@robc7162
@robc7162 25 күн бұрын
Glad you highlighted Yuan Yang. She's really impressive, I think she's going to go far. Interesting how her Chinese background will be treated by our right wing media.
@user-ez8bx6ly8v
@user-ez8bx6ly8v 25 күн бұрын
Great to see more really 👍 women being in cabinet 😊
@HXT_916
@HXT_916 26 күн бұрын
My MP, Damien Egan in Bristol North East. Former Mayor of Lewisham, 11,000 / 26% majority, and he has the political X factor in my opinion.
@david030491
@david030491 25 күн бұрын
Dear lord.
@MiPointIs
@MiPointIs 25 күн бұрын
Starmer’s Labour government will offer the country positive change delivered by a multitude of mature MPs bringing innovation ito their departmental projects
@strikeforcealpha9343
@strikeforcealpha9343 26 күн бұрын
Two things I notice. 1 Most have experience in law 2 Most seem experienced in what they are doing, or have family members that are. I'm fed up with asshats running things that they shouldn't be, or being someone's mate and getting a billion dollar contract *cough* mone *cough*
@boxtradums0073
@boxtradums0073 25 күн бұрын
Yeah this bunch of middle class people and nepo babies will be much better 🤣🤣🤣
@MaliciousDiscontent
@MaliciousDiscontent 25 күн бұрын
Darren Jones, Chris Bryant and Andy Burnham are my favourites
@youknow6968
@youknow6968 26 күн бұрын
Banning polling is equivalent to banning knowledge, it's a ridiculous notion. Polling is part of the structure that allows the citizen to decide how effective their vote will be, without a poll the voter may not vote how they really want to vote, because they might assume their vote won't have an effect, and go with the safe but an undesirable option. A poll allows a voter, to make an educated judgement, not just on the performance of the parties involved, but also how effect her/his vote will be in achieving a desirable outcome.
@disasterarea9341
@disasterarea9341 25 күн бұрын
any suggestion to ban polling is a ridiculous band-aid to the problems of a) the voting system and FPTP and b) the media and their choice to prioritise horse race politics over the substance of policy.
@matpk
@matpk 26 күн бұрын
What if Farage become the Tory leader this year❓
@TimoDyer
@TimoDyer 26 күн бұрын
He will be busy helping Trump and Putin.
@bridget9396
@bridget9396 26 күн бұрын
People complain about the country going to pot because of immigrants. They will then see the country completely go to rack and ruin. Immigrants don't vote, so only themselves to blame. ​@TimoDyer
@user-iz9co4qf6z
@user-iz9co4qf6z 26 күн бұрын
​@@TimoDyerdoing what?😂 He's one of five MPs
@ianwoodall4523
@ianwoodall4523 26 күн бұрын
The party would split
@blackroseangel123
@blackroseangel123 26 күн бұрын
He'd have to actually attend parliament for that to happen 😂
@meatychunkz8875
@meatychunkz8875 26 күн бұрын
At last someone who uses the schrödinger’s cat analogy correctly
@rjScubaSki
@rjScubaSki 25 күн бұрын
Although she really just wanted the classical observer effect without all the superposition and measurement problem gubbins!
@danielcreamer9669
@danielcreamer9669 25 күн бұрын
How knew the Poles were such a powerful force in UK politics?
@oliverraven
@oliverraven 25 күн бұрын
Ydy Torsten Bell yn siarad yr iaith eto??
@clario2178
@clario2178 25 күн бұрын
None of the above
@TheLucanicLord
@TheLucanicLord 24 күн бұрын
Heisenberg.
@johnhopkins9917
@johnhopkins9917 26 күн бұрын
You mean "Heisenberg's uncertainty principle" not "Schrödingers cat".
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 26 күн бұрын
No, she's right. The Heisenberg uncertainty principle means that as you measure one feature (position) the measurement of another (velocity) becomes less precise. Schrödingers cat means once you observe something (poll results) the state changes (election outcome). The argument is that seeing polling influences voter behaviour; i.e. once you've measured "it", "it" has now changed.
@billfear8824
@billfear8824 26 күн бұрын
I think both would apply in this instance. The point being made is that the act of measuring anything changes that which is being measured. In this case the suggestion is that by polls measuring people's intentions (and publicising them), they changed people's intentions, which appears to be accurate. It is also true to say that this particular metric was impossible to track with absolute accuracy, not least because polls take time to compile, and in that time frame circumstances have undoubtedly changed. So both apply. I would also make the point that polls in general, although a good indicator, will never be able to truly predict the actual vote of the "undecided" voter, which could easily make up for the gap in vote share predicted vs actual. I've always found it fascinating, have a nice day!
@rjScubaSki
@rjScubaSki 25 күн бұрын
She really just means the classical observer effect. Heisenbergs is actually even less appropriate than what she said (it is much much more specific than you think it is).
@LeoAdams-hs1be
@LeoAdams-hs1be 26 күн бұрын
I saw Melanie Ward, newly elected for Cowdenbeith, do an incredibly powerful speech, and she has background running Medical Aid for Palestinians
@lheureexquise140
@lheureexquise140 26 күн бұрын
Labour has blown it on genocide. Nothing will conceal the stench
@Yossarian1179
@Yossarian1179 26 күн бұрын
you mean Heisenberg's uncertainty principle rather than Schrödinger's cat.
@rjScubaSki
@rjScubaSki 25 күн бұрын
Thats actually even more wrong. She really just wants the classical observer effect, all the quantum stuff isn’t needed …
@arismei
@arismei 26 күн бұрын
Too obvious as a engine of propaganda
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