The new London overground line names are worse than you'd expect

[@evan]

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[@mykota2417]

6 million? That's less than sunaks last yrs tax evasion amount

[@soroland1]

Second half you were reading. But that's because I was really concentrating. I had no idea during the main video you were reading off a teleprompter.

[@LynnCanada]

@@soroland1agreed. I wouldn’t have known if you didn’t tell me. You made more eye contact and looked at the camera/prompter. Video still felt natural, but not off the cuff. It was good I liked it. Seems like a normal you video.

[@darriendastar3941]

I've already heard Weavers Line referred to as 'the Clothes Line' - which I prefer.

[@evan]

BRILLIANT

[@owennoad-watson2820]

"I took the washing line to work today. It was a breeze"

[@darriendastar3941]

Shouldn't that be (Fe)breeze? 🙂@@owennoad-watson2820

[@markaled4939]

It was Fabreeze@@owennoad-watson2820

[@mralem3548]

@@owennoad-watson2820 hahahaha funny

[@billyhills9933]

The only way they could have been worse is if they had accepted sponsorship. The BetFred Line. The McDonalds Line. The Every Little Helps Line. The Good Things Come To Those Who Wait Line.

[@mildlydispleased3221]

Good things the Tories aren't in charge.

[@andrewd9622]

Tbf at least that would've been funny

[@InsoIence]

I can't believe it's not Butter! Line

[@raythomas4812]

The washing Line...

[@andrewd9622]

The Emirates Air Line 🫢

[@ninamarie177]

“Sorry that I’m late, I’m still suffering on the suffragette line!” Does have a nice ring to it

[@YujiUedaFan]

Remember, WE can't vote for better train line names! That name really rubs it in. >:(

[@nicktrains2234]

In summer it will become the suffer line

[@josh-gt9fm]

@@nicktrains2234 or in true london fashion, the suffy g line#

[@cazharris5581]

Or the Suff RAGE tte line

[@oldtechnobodycaresabout]

Loss of Goblin is the worst thing...

[@highpath4776]

They were trolling you

[@helloworld0911]

Always been called the Goblin since the Silverlink days, wish it carried on through the North London line though... but there's a parliamentary train that goes all the way to Willesden Junction...

[@philwoodward5069]

I'm not sure I get your point? The Goblin has never been anything other than an unofficial name for the line. The police will not be called if we continue to call it that.

[@quantisedspace7047]

​@@philwoodward5069The Police will be called, as it is seen as offensive to little people.

[@silviasanchez648]

@@quantisedspace7047 Goblins are not particularly small tho...

[@catherinebutler4819]

At least Liberty Line opens up the possibility for Carry-On style humour: "I just taken the Liberty" - "I'll say you have, missus!" Such hilarity on the streets of the capital.

[@lucie4185]

100% its going to be the Libby line. The goblin. The windy and the Wembley

[@LiqdPT]

I feel like Libby and Lizzy are too similar.

[@ChiSa123]

@@LiqdPT Just "LIb"... "the Lib line"... no relation to any libs or liberals or liberal democrats etc.

[@ib9rt]

And, of course, the Suffer Line.

[@lucie4185]

Also I suspect Mildmay will become Mildew because London.

[@minikipp8549]

@@ib9rtsuffy G line 😂

[@TNBuckeye1617]

11:25, if you prefer to call it the Goblin Line, then call it the Goblin Line. If enough people ignore the names imposed for the names organically created, then maybe they will eventually fix the official name to be the name that most people use.

[@Psevdonim123]

People of London should really create a petition about this... The "loss" of East London Line already hurt enough, but removing Goblin is basically a heresy

[@ellenm2509]

I will be calling the Liberty line the Libby Line. The Lizzy Line’s long lost sister

[@cazharris5581]

I’d call it the Bert Line - Liberty without the Liy…

[@cazharris5581]

Or the Bertie after QE2’s father

[@cpmahon]

To hear you keep saying underground and overground, the Wombles theme tune is stuck in my head now! Underground, overground Wombling free. The Wombles of Wimbledon Common are we....

[@Eurobazz]

Made worse by the fact that at Whitechapel the Overground is underground and the Underground is overground.

[@TheMissalicia]

I'm having this exact problem watching this video😂 it's stuck in my head now!

[@Psymonkee]

How about a pun for a station name? Liber-Tea. Can't believe you missed that option!

[@ChiSa123]

9:00 That is a fantastic name and it honours one of the greatest Engineers/engineering family. Windrush is a nice gesture... but being in the complete opposite side of town to where most "Windrush" people settled it feels ridiculous.

[@ib9rt]

FYI, knowing it's the River Lea or Lee (alternative spelling) will clue you in to its pronunciation.

[@sarahk7206]

River Lea is pronounced Lee - Adele has a song about it

[@YujiUedaFan]

That's what I thought!

[@WILFREDRUSSELL-h8n]

@@YujiUedaFanyep. Never heard it called the lee-ah (except by Evan (it is also known as the River Lee anyway)

[@carolineskipper6976]

Back in the mists of time when I lived in Acton, the North London Line was the actual name for this section of line.....no idea why this name should have been turned down by Government, as it was a pre-existing name, and literally describes what it is....weird! River Lea - pronounced and even sometimes officially spelt 'Lee'.

[@mazzy_vc]

The irony of spending money naming lines after historically oppressed, impoverished and ignored groups, while simultaneously letting that public transport system remain so bad and unreliable that the impoverished and often ignored people cannot effectively use or afford it. What good is naming a line after the suffragettes when just recently I saw a women in a wheelchair unable to get to the platform because none of the lifts were in operation?

[@TalesOfWar]

And of course, 6 million quid is really going to fix all those problems isn't it? It'd probably cost more to replace just those lifts at that station. Blame the government for not funding TfL properly.

[@InsoIence]

@@TalesOfWar What is your point?

[@YujiUedaFan]

@@InsoIenceI think they meant that renaming the lines cost 6 million.

[@jezp1976]

@@YujiUedaFan most of that cost will be to update the signage and posters. I don't think the bureaucrat that came up the new names got 6million quid.

[@YujiUedaFan]

@@jezp1976Yeah that's what I meant. I know they won't get the money, just the overall cost.

[@Inucroft]

*stares in one train an hour* It use to be one every 30mins... *cries in Northern*

[@dalecn2417]

I'm most aggrieved with the goblin line name change. Regarding the Liberty line I don't really like it because of the Americans and what they've done to the word but it does make sense for the area as it mainly runs within what used to be referred to as the Royal Liberty of Havering. Which is why there is also Liberty within the names of lots of local things in the area such as the Liberty Shopping Centre

[@AmyThePuddytat]

I shopped at Liberty in the 90s and didn’t realise that.

[@JPRobinso]

When Gospel Oak to Barking was electrified recently it was nearly called the eGoblin line. I mocked up some very bad images of a goblin with a paternoster cable antennaes

[@MasalaMan]

I wrote a similar comment on jago hazzards video of this but I wanted to write it here as well. My grandparents were windrush. We really don't need or want a line named after us. I find it cringe and it brings more unnecessary attention to us. We also live in west London so we'll never touch this line. Also, in these stupid culture war times. It's just going to stir up jealousy and angst with people critical of the windrush people and I don't want that in my life. And like how you funnily showed, in context it can actually provide a lot of chances for those critical of us to have a dig at us when the windrush line is going bad. As a result, I'm going to be disassociating with this name windrush as much as possible. I have to. We didn't even know we were fricken called "windrush" until that's what they started calling us. I also believe all this is the mayor playing politics to garner points and I don't like it and too add most of the names are too cringely and hard on the nose anyways.

[@highpath4776]

You got off the Windrush in Tilbury (on the LTS Line) , and later Lambeth council created Windrush Square (on the site of the Orange Luxury Coaches Coach Station.)

[@YujiUedaFan]

I don't get the point of being this level of politics for line names either. We EXPECT lines to be named after monarchy or important places in the area, but not this. Why name a line after the inability for women to vote if no-one but the Mayor (who's a MAN) had the power to give the line a name anyway??? Same goes for Lioness line, since at least more people have HEARD of Wembley over some sports victory a few years ago.

[@MsPeabody1231]

​@@YujiUedaFanThe point of the line not being named after monarchy is because the last three lines have been named after the former Queen. Ordinary people make up London and that's what the lines are to commemorate. It also means that tourists will look up and find out information about ordinary Londoners. I knew the history behind some of the line names but didn't know about the connection between Havering and Liberty.

[@MsPeabody1231]

@MasalaMan the culture wars are part of this declining government's history. The name of the line will outlast this horrid government. My parents, some of my other family and friends were part of Windrush generation. They settled around Clapham Junction. Lambeth council fought to have a line named in their honour.

[@YujiUedaFan]

@@MsPeabody1231Except a lot of the new lines names will age horribly like Lioness Line.

[@sydnie6205]

The lionesses line I like, although I am a women’s football fan, the Lionesses are pioneers in women’s football and the growth of women’s sport (having pushed for increased sports participation for girls in schools etc), and their win is the first major trophy since 1966. They have done incredible things and I think it’s a fine enough way to commemorate it. Also, the fact that it’s not a men’s reference to the three lions have pissed people off in a very funny way.

[@sophiagunner4984]

Came to say exactly this. Maybe it's lack of sports knowledge, but the lionesses did a lot more than win one game in terms of significance to english football. My interpretation is the line is more honouring the legacy of the achievement and the changes we've seen in womems football since, rather than just the win itself.

[@jackoh991]

Agreed re the funny it's pissed people off

[@dominicchallis2928]

@@sophiagunner4984I personally just have misgivings not about the attachment to their actual substantive achievements, but about them probably having a line named after them only because they won the women’s Euros and that’s the only thing that got people’s attention. It seems so superficial because if they hadn’t won the women’s Euros no one in the public or media would probably give a toss. The name is essentially a monument to our short attention span and revisionism.

[@TalesOfWar]

The Liberty Line is named after the area which used to be a Royal Liberty, something that existed centuries before the US. It's actually the most accurately named line in the list. Also Camden Town is the reason the Northern Line isn't two lines. It needs to be entirely rebuilt. I'm pretty sure the Fleet became part of the sewage system.

[@stephenlee5929]

Re the Fleet, Not sure it became part of the sewer system, I think it always was, they just paved over it.

[@HarrowwInk]

yeah but nobody cares about the liberty of havering not even the people living within the borough of havering care it's such a nothingburger imo

[@michaelcobb3347]

The only line that historically deserves the moniker "Windrush" is the Tilbury Loop of my local LTS - after all Tilbury is where the story started.

[@taranjk1]

Now I know of the goblin line, I will now be referring to it as the goblin line.

[@jackthetrainspotter9727]

I had almost the same reaction to the line renaming, especially with the goblin line. That broke my heart. However, there is deeper meaning to the name Liberty line. Havering (the borough it runs through) used to be a very politically independent local authority called the 'Liberty of Havering' which made it somewhat independent from central government. I"m not sure how it worked but the line name is a nod to that. I used to live up there, Emerson Park was my local station, so the line and area has a special place in my heart.

[@DylanSargesson]

"The Windrush isn't rushing" will fit quite well for whenever that line has delays. And for the Liberty Line, it's not named for the American usage but because of Middle Ages form of proto-Local government. The big shopping centre in that region is called the Liberty Centre, so it is a name with some local significance.

[@DwellerUK]

"Highbury & Islington to an early death" As someone who grew up in Croydon and can relate, that made me laugh

[@CountSpamaIot]

It was difficult to decide on which half of the advert was being read from a teleprompter, but I would say it was the second half being read from one based on the speed of talking.

[@ShirinRose]

I agree, it was probably the second half, but I really couldn't tell

[@Kanbei11]

I would also say second half as his eye movement looked more like someone who was reading but it may simply be confirmation bias on my part

[@randomguy-tg7ok]

As I have previously commented elsewhere, Suffragettes shall now be known as Goblins in the London Consciousness.

[@KellyS_77]

Goblinettes or Goblettes if you will.

[@beckydean4374]

I naively thought the "liberty" line was to do with the "liberty of london..." department store 😂

[@georgesos]

Ditto

[@stephenlee5929]

Seems like it should be, given the line does not go there, Similar to Mild May. 😊😊

[@Steven_20031]

Thing is with these lines, most of them are pr stunts where as most of the underground lines were names of the original names of the railways that built them

[@donaldmilne5352]

Liberty... Liber Tea... Libre Tea... maybe more appropriate for a train line in Boston, MA? 😁

[@ChiSa123]

2:10 Actually, I believe parts of the Harry Potter movies were shot at Harrow school! (The private school!) Also, that same Overground line goes on to Watford... where the Harry Potter Warner Bro. Studio Tour is! So, it is quite likely a tourist would wander there! 🤓

[@t.a.k.palfrey3882]

Brits (and Aussies) love abbreviating words, and especially names. In no time these will become: the Windy, The Lion (which nullifies the original intention), the Suffer Line (or Suffering), Mildly, Weavers, and travellers will either say Libline, or they'll take a Liberty.

[@f.g.9466]

The things you are referring as 2015 proposals have actually been the names given to these lines for much longer time than that. In some cases it's the official name from many decades or even hundreds of years (ex: the Lea Valley Lines, the East London Line - you can easily google them up). In other cases it's an unofficial name more recently adopted by locals and/or train enthusiasts but that has still been around way before 2015 (ex: Goblin). A pedantic exception might be the Watford Local Line, which is better known as the Watford DC Line due to the usage of DC power. Milday is not just the name of an hospital, it is the name of an area in London where the hospital is situated. The Mildmay line actually goes through that area, so not that far from the hospital, but the nearest station to the hospital is in a different train line. So, indeed you wouldn't use a Mildmay line station to get to Mildmay hospital, but the line does go through Mildmay. Not supporting it though, I don't like the name.

[@mireya2273]

The Liberty Line holds a connection to Havering’s history. The region once served as a royal manor and ancient liberty. The manor's long-standing possession by the Crown from the 11th to the 19th centuries, along with its role as the site of Havering Palace during the 13th to the late 17th century, underscores the area's deep-rooted ties to regal heritage. This is equally reflected in other local names, e.g. The Liberty Shopping Centre in Romford town, or The Royal Liberty School. Still a rubbish name for a train line tbh. Although I do like the idea of hopping off the Libby, onto the Lizzy.

[@jackoh991]

Windrush should be Brunel, and the suffergete line called Windrush. Mainly because I can spell suffergete so no chance me texting anyone where I'm stuck if I'm on it

[@khwezik3894]

I worked at a school in brixton that has the effra river under it. School used to be closed when it rained really hard because the river overflowed and would flood the ground floor . Couldn't tell in the ad which part was read or not as you were faced directly to camera. Whereas during thw vid i did note a point a 2 but i was like you're just reading your notes. Basically it wasn't distracting or anythung, it flowed naturally

[@unclestephen2722]

lioness line = cat line, mildmay line = may line, windrush line = fart line, weaver line = wee line, suffragette line = goblin line, liberty line = free line (to confuse tourists)

[@RobertThomas-io5jn]

The liberty line should be turned into a new branch of the Elizabeth line as it only has 3 stations and some lizzy line trains terminate the stop after Romford anyway

[@Jim-Scott]

To your question at the end, your glances down to your right would suggest to me that it was the first half of the advert you were reading. That could of course be a tic you have, and it was the second half when you had to concentrate on looking ahead at the teleprompter to read it. (Clever way to get us to stick around for the ad though, I hope they appreciate it!)

[@stephwaite]

If only you knew the awfulness of public transport in some places in England that are not London (or Manchester, Birmingham or any of the large cities) you'd care less about the names and be thankful for a terrific public transport service that works... I'd be happy if our half hourly bus turned up on time and didn't break down.. what's worse, the two buses follow slightly different routes so actually there is often an hour between the bus that takes you directly where you want to go.😢

[@punditgi]

As an American who lived in France and visited England and am back in the USA and follow British politics I find your channel quite delightful. Bravo, sir! Carry on, lad! 🇬🇧

[@rumdo5617]

My favourite is the Pickled Willy Line (Piccadilly)

[@thefareplayer2254]

As a tourist from the US, I ended up in Stoke Newington on the “Weaver” line (Lea Valley lines Enfield Town / Cheshunt branches) of the Overground for the best dosas and parathas of my life, so there’s that.

[@neuralwarp]

That particular woman wasn't a Suffragette. She was a Suffragist. Totally different.

[@kathchandler4919]

Liverpool St to Chingford has very regular service , also we can get off at Walthamstow Central for the Victoria line. Ironically the overground to Chingford is part of the Lea Valley lines (I only visit , my daughter's live in Highams Park) all near Epping Forest 😅

[@1nbp]

The reason the overground isn’t as frequent (except the soon to be windrush line) is because they share tracks with freight. I also think the meanings of the line names will be lost sooner rather than later and in the end they’re just names…

[@Ignacio_DB]

0:36 fun fact, the overground is mostly overground, and fun fuct pt 2, there are parts where the overground goes under the underground

[@gnomadD_]

9:10 His name was "Isambard Kingdom Brunel", not Mark, btw...

[@charliecosta3971]

Tbh I don't care what the lines are called. For someone that uses the Overground a lot, I find it very convenient to get from South London to the rest of London across the Thames. There's a lack of Underground in the South so the Overground makes up for it.

[@leesmith586]

There's a pub near Romford station called the liberty bell and the shopping centre nearby is called the liberty.

[@lilyns99]

Being from Havering liberty line makes sense, there’s Royal Liberty School , the Liberty Shopping centre etc.

[@TheWolfHowling]

I predict many a joke about “Riding the Suffragette all the way”

[@robinhillyard6187]

The “north London line” was always called that from long before they came up with the idea of the “overground.” It’s at least 60 years old by my recollection.

[@quintuscrinis8032]

You joke about Harrow and Wealdstone sounding like a Harrow Potter shop, but you do have to go through it to get to the studio where the films were made and you can still see the sets.

[@quintuscrinis8032]

Also, for what its worth, the "originally proposed names" were the original names when the lines were built and even the generally used names in most of the paperwork under TFL. Although the £6 million included the rebranding of all the signs and maps.

[@mawrtea]

ha! up the Stones! We're actually staying in Harrow for a couple days coming up because of its convenience to Wembley. Most folks wouldn't need that, but it works for us this time round 😄

[@kaleeyed]

The Lizzie Line, named after our greatest Prime Minister, Liz Truss! Personally I dont know why they couldn't have just given them anonymous numbers and letters like Paris or New York. Not at all annoyed they could spend 6 million renaming these while Leeds still doesn't even have any public transport aside from extremely crap buses and taxis and like 5 rail stations. Nope, not pissed off at all. But rant aside, I agree with you Evan, the local nicknames for the lines were much more fun and useful.

[@tedioustotoro4885]

The extra annoying thing about the name of the Lioness Line is that they named it that because it stops at North Wembley, the one Wembley station that’s nowhere near the stadium.

[@AndrewDiamond-h9l]

I live next to the Weaver line. I used to live in Spitalfields where the weavers lived. The line doesn't stop there. The trains on this line were called Jazz Trains in the 20's. There were still trains timetabled as 'Jazz Trains' in the 60's. Wouldn't Jazz Line have been a great name. Real historical content and a snappy and memorable name. I also live near the Goblin Line. I'll carry on calling it that I think. The idea is great. Better integration with the tube. Better information as to which bit of it isn't working today. But the names have been dreamt up by 12 year olds.

[@Jerrrbear]

I want a meme template that has a picture of Evan saying “Gotta hit that quota!”

[@contrapunctusmammalia3993]

none of tfl's comms explained this for some reason but the borough of havering has a historical connection to the word 'liberty' due to some strange history stuff, they have a school and probably other stuff named liberty too so it makes local sense. Also, no matter how cringe the names are, it balances out the last three new railways being named after a queen (victoria, jubilee, elizabeth) in balance, the naming conventions of TfL are now completely avarage

[@BenCG]

I will never get used to hearing the name of my hometown read out in an American accent like it's of any importance. Apparently though, if you wanted a "Charles Line"... well, you know how we refer to houses architectural styles by the name of the monarch whose reign they were built in? Georgian, Edwardian, Victorian, Elizabethan etc.? Well do you know what that is for Charles? It's "Caroline". We could have a Caro Line.

[@JC-jv5xw]

And when it fails the complaint is then, "Sheet Caro Line, Nah, Nah Nah"

[@AlzheimersCaretaker]

I had no idea you were going from a script in the first place, let alone using a teleprompter. your delivery is so naturally flowing it sounds just like the way i'm used to hearing it. nice work

[@Tom_Hillman]

The only line I ever find myself taking is the East London (now the Windrush) line from West Croydon, and thats only when the Thameslink or the Southern Rail from East Croydon isnt running. We already aren't properly served in with good overground or underground connections in South London, this is just yet another slap in the face to be honest.

[@rojavida]

The Liberty is the shopping centre in Romford.

[@Jess140594]

They missed a mark with the Suffragette Line... it would have sounded so much better as the Emmeline Line

[@Redrally]

West Croydon station is within walking distance of one of the largest branches of the Home Office in the UK, where people go to approve their Visas and get their asylum papers verified. A lot of those people do happen to be Caribbean or Bahamian or Trinidadian in origin and a lot of foreigners settle within travelling distance of or within Croydon to stay within reach of this branch, so the Windrush Line isn't completely inappropriate. :)

[@neilmcdonald9164]

Overground is less frequent as former National Rail,which is less frequent (it,like NR,but not tube,still closes on Boxing Day)🎩

[@JasperCasper24]

As a non Londoner, it makes me chuckle people care so much about the names, I thought most of them were pretty neat! But, I also say them or see them absolutely never

[@douglasdeans2839]

Should have named one of the other station "Maid" then we would have had a Goblin Teas Maid!

[@CEverett9979]

The Liberty Line? Insert Helldivers 2 reference here!

[@tomaszkempisty3722]

The one time I tried to use the Lizzy line (between Heathrow terminals, as I left London just before brexit)... It was broken)😂😂 Good old jolly London got me again. I managed on Piccadilly that ran no problems)

[@deadwing04]

Goblin, North London Line, (Old?) East London Line, and even The Push and Pull. We already had these names what people were (are) actually using, it's completely beyond me why to artificially make up new ones

[@aisosaihama]

The Lioness Line could ring better off the tongue, but you're downplaying what they're trying to honour here: The ladies didn't just "win a game"; they won the finals of the Euros, which was the first major honours England have won since 66 & the Euros was the first title won at the New Wembley since it was opened. Southgate & the lads were plastered everywhere just for taking the men to 1 step from glory. It makes sense you'd give a whole train line to whoever actually bought football home 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@f.g.9466]

In other words: just a rather rare but otherwise insignificant sports team achievement.

[@rripley86]

I love every usage in context is "sorry, I'm late...is running late" 😄

[@ornleifs]

For some reason this line from Pink Floyd came to mind when watching this. - "Hanging on in quiet desperation Is the English way".

[@captaincatchy]

It isn't called the Liberty Line as a reference to liberty in general (which I agree would be silly) but because of the Liberty of Havering - look it up.

[@philiptaylor7902]

Tried to watch Geoff Marshall on the same subject, but unusually for Geoff it was terribly dull. Evan, you smashed it!

[@georgesos]

Bakerloo line was my favorite line when I was living in London. Also the south part of northern line was my usual commute. Change in Waterloo to British Rail,on my way to New Beckenham where i lived in the 80s. These videos take me back...❤

[@lucy_harris]

Saw the thumbnail and was about to come in bout to defend my local liberty line but to say it’s not the worst is so true😂😂

[@Mrmayhembsc]

Liberty Line is named because the area was known as the Royal Liberty of Havering and was a Liberty between 1465-1892. It totally makes sense. Lot of the others don't for me and was total miss step

[@OctopusVlogs]

I foresee when there is delays on the suffereget line it will be called the suffering line by people travelling on it 😂

[@paulkingtiger]

Lea Valley Line is pronounced "Lee" like the name. Confusingly the river is spelled "River Lea" but the canal bit that runs next to the river is "Lee Navigation". See also Lee Valley Park, Lea Valley Country Park, Lea Valley Walking Trail, and Lee Valley Marina which is next to Lea Valley Narrowboat Company. This is why we can't have nice things!

[@robertcox1835]

In the tradition of the Fleet Line (that never was) they could do worse than naming the lines after some of London's buried rivers. But keep the Goblin.

[@SisterMu]

I would have liked the Goblin and Tea lines too. Oh well, it's not impossible for them to be changed again a few years in the future.

[@MathewUtting]

13:41 Earl Grey might have been good for a grey line and still fits the tea theme and he was a prime minister i. The 1830s

[@jerry2357]

A few comments: 1. Most of the Underground is actually above ground (except in central London). 2. You should look up the 1966 World Cup. 3. In a whole England context, the Weaver line sounds as if it's in the North West of England (there is a River Weaver in Cheshire).

[@humphreychannel582]

the 6 mill also is paying for the implementation of the new lines, all the new signage and such. not just the choosing of the names of the lines.

[@mildlydispleased3221]

Remember: The Tories wanted to sell the names to companies similar to the Santander bikes and the IFS cable car. "Take the HSBC line to Clapham Junction and change to the McDonald's line"

[@Sophie_Cleverly]

I actually like the Lioness Line. Maybe it sounds better in my accent 😂 (more like Li-on-ess Line than Line-ess Line). I also like it because I have a tiny daughter who likes animals and football and I feel like she'd be excited to go on it.

[@PresumablyTunes]

I'm not from London, but the urge to go on the goblin line was there, now there's no urge. The lost tourism is such a shame.

[@clivemortimore8203]

The liberty line is so named because Harvering, where both Romford and Upminster are, was a Liberty not a Hundred. Areas that were Hundreds had to supply 100 men to the king's army in time of war, a Liberty did not have to. Liberties had something to do with the local bishop's ranking in the church or land owned or administered by the church not a baron. Anyhow it was along time ago so I could be wrong.

[@amyloriley]

The Lioness Line, from Lioness Tech Tips. The Lioness Lion. So many puns related to speech that could be missed from reading written text. Especially when I hear you pronounce it in your accent.

[@alicejade3657]

I really don't see what's so bad about the names, they have tried to give them all some sort of historical context to the areas they cover. Let's face it - they could have been named anything and people would slag them off.

[@heysahar]

I personally don’t associate the word liberty with America as stromgly as u so the liberty line seems like an okay name to me, it’s probably the most fitting particularly due to the area it passes. the mildmay line seem like a good name too (but I don’t get why the mildmay line doesn’t actually take u to the hospital it’s named after and instead you’d have to take a different branch of the overground for that) but I hate hate hate the name windrush line and sufferagette line because it really is so performative!! the lioness line does seem fun but as a train line name I don’t think it suits either and I’ll forever be mourning the loss of the name ‘Brunel line’ I think that just really fits as a train line name!

[@BellePullman]

The big, huge, massive oversight they made in these names - well made in this video - is that 90% of the everyday use of the line names is people complaining about them! Sometimes affectionately, but more often resentfully, the lines are not referenced in a positive light. So these performative gestures are going to massively backfire as everyone comes to hate on the Lioness, the Suffragette line writes its own jokes, "avoid Windrush if you can"... it's not an honour. It's making these names the butt of all the jokes. The other 10% usage is directions, and I think it'll be a long time before people stop just using "overground" to refer to the lines overall.

[@maggie8324]

Loved the TEA and Goblin, we call ours the Ginger 'Islington to West Croyden'

[@Liamella23]

I think it's nice that they've tried to draw on the history of london when naming the lines. I personally don't see it as trying to meet diversity quotas, just a nice way to show some of London's history. Given that HS2 is costing over 300 million pounds a mile (some estimates as high as over 1bn a mile) I don't think 6 million for everything involved in renaming these lines is too bad.

[@BooksUnstitched]

*trigger warning* They presumably didn't want to go with the Brunel Line name as Marc Brunel was the son of another engineer famous in the South West, Isambard Kingdom Brunel, who was a brutal user of eslaved African workers, and his son Marc presumably inherited a lot of that wealth. Then again, maybe I'm crediting the people chosing the names with too much humanity.

[@zombiefreed]

Yep, they're not that smart. But true none the less. You're on it!

[@HenriqueGarciaCosta]

Breathing Line is actually a pretty good name