All three are great discs it's all about that hand feel. I bag an ethereal pathfinder I dig it but i gotta say I love how even people who don't like the buzz still throw really well with it. Damn thing is undeniable.
@ryosapien27 Жыл бұрын
That’s what i saw “ hey this disc exactly what i want it to do but it’s just not for me ?”
@BDupy1 Жыл бұрын
@Ryan Bahr it's hand feel for me. My Simon Hex immediately kicked my Buzzz out of the bag just because I love how it feels so much better
@KalThuemler7 ай бұрын
The buzz gets caught on my hand never comes off clean for me I am a fore hander and it just does not release clean. The hex comes off my hand like butter I get good torque for my arm speed.
@truce112 жыл бұрын
Dude you're cranking out content. Glad I subbed. Loving these disc checks and comparisons
@njott10212 жыл бұрын
Hex is just sooo smooth out of the fingers. It kind of reminds me of the Loft and it's rounded edge
@ColdToiletSeats2 жыл бұрын
agreed that's the first thing I noticed once I threw it .. comes out so clean compared to my buzzz
@TyCampbellTX2 жыл бұрын
Hex is easily my favorite disc in my bag! Also, you keep liking my favorite discs that are in my bag lol love my Berg and my Hexes! Next favorite disc for me is my Star TL3. It flies like a Hex, but further.
@jimbow36742 жыл бұрын
I like that you are using graphics to showcase your lines. Whether on TV or a phone it's difficult to see the path and disc in flight. Your editing ethics are outstanding. Very innovative and entertaining.
@BodanzaDiscGolf2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@eviljinius3372 жыл бұрын
i've thrown all the popular mids... the hex made me double-take. then i handed to it to my friends to make sure i wasn't imagining it. it goes far and straight and can handle a surprising amount of power. straight as a putter, far as a fairway.
@cdg1012922 жыл бұрын
MVP has some SOLID molds.
@TyCampbellTX2 жыл бұрын
@@cdg101292 I love my Hex, Reactor, and Envy but I've tried alpt of their drivers and haven't liked any of them yet
@cdg1012922 жыл бұрын
@@TyCampbellTX Try a Catalyst sometime. If you find the right weight for you, they absolutely bomb on a full S-Curve when thrown flat. Very workable for long distance.
@kwolitek4785 Жыл бұрын
I love the buzzz, I don't want glidy in a midrange, I want it to predictably get down and sit and the buzzz is clutch for that. I use the z glo flx buzzz and love that plastic
@cullsans2 жыл бұрын
Love the breakdown and example throws! I've been playing disc golf for 15 years but just recently started diving deeper into it, looking into proper technique and how to really improve your game. I realized that I was probably not doing myself any service throwing only distance drivers and putters 😅 Definitely looking at picking one or two of these up for spring, leaning Hex.
@Johanthegnarler2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed the ESP and Tour Series ESP swirl this year all came out kind of slick. Was kind of upset about it but after playing a handful of rounds they break in really well. Buzzz SS ESP swirl are my favorite. I didn't like Buzzz for quite a long time, now they're some of my favorite discs
@TMRaven2 жыл бұрын
Beat in Reactor > Hex. Flies the same but fills my hand better. Also Hex has a wider rim than the Buzzz, so it should have more distance potential. It's less so that it has more glide/gyro, and definitely the wider rim.
@coryy87922 жыл бұрын
I actually had the same independent thought about Though Space beating in fast. I had only hit a few trees (5-7 range) and noticed it started to turn just about every throw where out the box it help every release angle consistently. Didn't know that was even a theory that was being discussed. Still bag the pathfinder because it feels great and still goes really straight. .Nice video! Enjoyed the 3 way battle.
@KalThuemler7 ай бұрын
I have three Hex in the bag and use it for my fairway driver and approach almost exclusively. They go straight for this 62 year old disc golfer it is awesome for my arm speed for sure and they even fly in a head wind!!!
@SethDStanley Жыл бұрын
Good test! In my experience, the Pathfinder is dead straight, like Glitch straight, while the Hex tends to slowly ride whatever angle you give it with a nice finish. I actually bag both, the Lizottle Hex and Pathfinder, since I find they fly different enough. The eclipse plastic definitely makes the Hex a tad more overstable like the Buzzz.
@HyzerFlexOnYou2 жыл бұрын
I've been making the rounds testing out different straight midranges lately and the hex really stood out. I found it wants to fly like a frozen rope, and it's surprisingly torque resistant, which is great for players like me who prefer not to power down.
@ChrisPlaysDG2 жыл бұрын
I switched to the Hex from the Buzzz and never looked back. I can forehand the Hex much better than the Buzzz, and the Hex feels better in the hand, both shape and plastic.
@acannoli82872 жыл бұрын
The Reactor is definitely the closer Mold to the Buzz, but a great video nonetheless! Neutron Reactor has been my favorite midrange for the last 2 years and it’s that perfect blend of pushing turn and stable finish
@StabbyMcShankerson2 жыл бұрын
You shipped my Felon! So hyped to support your content!
@JacobPorterLadder2 жыл бұрын
That Hex Color combo is ideal.
@matthewbarber4052 жыл бұрын
I have tried all 3 of these molds, and I bag the Pathfinder. I loved how it felt in my hand from the first throw. And it gave me the most distance out of the 3. That's coming from an old dude with no arm speed.
@nolanturtleski59812 жыл бұрын
Love your content, been here before 2k. Congrats on 6k.
@Tedseract Жыл бұрын
wants to hate the Buzzz Still crushes every shot with the buzzz
@artem_mma Жыл бұрын
Hex! I absolutely loved the Buzzz starting out, but now I prefer the Hex every time
@lucashenderson22592 жыл бұрын
If your looking to get rid of the buzz let me know, I love mine and want a second. Thanks!! Love the content!
@dustinroberson1865 Жыл бұрын
Throws great shots with the Buzzz..."I would throw either of these two, but not the buzzz" lol. I hear you. I've always thrown the buzzz really well (especially eliteZ), but there's something about the feel of it that I prefer other mids. I currently throw a Chameleon Core in that slot. Maybe a little more understable than the buzzz, but I don't have an understable mid in my bag. I'm thinking the core would be closer to the flight of that TSA disc
@redmortensen40662 жыл бұрын
I feel like you would probably enjoy the buzz more if you took the time to clean off the flashing the way we've talked about and if you threw it a little more, it's reliability in terms of its stability fits with everything that i've heard you talk about and granted you don't like it. I'm not here to convince you otherwise, but I'm just saying in general it lines up a lot with a lot of other things that you've talked about and that'll be your preferences and that sharpness and the way it feels in your hand does get better when you take the time to dress it
@kbdiscgolf Жыл бұрын
Dude that hex is gorgeous! Just found your channel because the title of this video grabbed my attention. Loving it so far
@sethjones39412 жыл бұрын
I dig the Alfa Discs Apollo, the Addax is sick thou too. Like you said, preference counts🤙🤙
@matthewwilson33992 жыл бұрын
I would have a kid with the hex if I could
@bearislandjosh52792 жыл бұрын
I bag a hex and a twenty year old buzz. Don't have a pathfinder, but I absolutely love the tsa discs I have.
@johnnyt70743 ай бұрын
I bag a hex and it's my most thrown disc. I love to right hand forehand Hyzer flipping it.
@discninjas9284 Жыл бұрын
I haven't thrown the pathfinder at all but as far as hex vs buzz but I think that your spot on with how they fly compared to each other
@meister-t Жыл бұрын
Buzzz-Z is a -1 1, whereas a Buzzz-bigZ is a 0 1 for sure. I've never tried the one you're throwing, but I get way more distance with a Pteranodon than a Buzzz. Update: bought a Pathfinder, and that disc is amazing. Lost the Pteranodon, seIIing both Buzzzes.
@joeybaker8866 Жыл бұрын
Just got a HEX and it has easily become my favorite midrange. Just feels good in the hand and is super versatile
@danielfish12552 жыл бұрын
I feel as you might have used the hex wrong. Looking for a fade.... nope not much of one. Matrix... fades. Love the videos. Keep it up! Love the gyro kick!
@RobMonroe972 жыл бұрын
I’m a buzzz guy. A Paige Pierce tour series buzzz was my first ever disc and it has never left the bag. I will say, although I like ESP plastic more than Z line in general, I like Z better for the buzzz
@ericporter23732 жыл бұрын
I ve been using a Buzz on and off for years. I try and replace it but it always ends back up in my bag...very dependable.
@andrewpeterson33022 ай бұрын
I have the svea and the detour in my bag. They fly fantastic out of the box. No need to beat either of them in.
@toddkauk60992 жыл бұрын
MVP Reactor FTW!
@jadebotes21282 жыл бұрын
The reactor is the king of the Gyro midrange line up...but the Hex is making a claim! Would be cool to see you try some Fission Plastic!
@Uncle_Muscles11 ай бұрын
My aura pathfinder is my go to mid. Theres no question of if its going to turn over or not with the wind and is really fast for a speed 5. My ethos pathfinder is crazy. I can crank my full power on it and can easily smash it 110 meters with a beautiful s-shot shape.
@i2Shea5 ай бұрын
Highly recommend the MANA. Really took me by surprise.
@Weikka Жыл бұрын
I dont have any experience with the pathfinder, but I throw hexes and my friend throws buzzzes. Buzzz seems a bit more stable and the rim does feel sharper and maybe a tad bit deeper.
@tonyatemple4657 Жыл бұрын
I know you prefer overstable, but have you tried an RPM piwakawaka? It's like a faster Tui and has crazy glide. Would love to see you try one in a comparison vid!!
@mikedansky36572 жыл бұрын
I have a Hex and a Buzz in my bag (cart actually, I'm old) and I find myself throwing the Hex a LOT more, unless it is a headwind, then for some reason I trust the Buzz more.
@DeanJayJackmanJr2 жыл бұрын
Mindbender lessgo! Grats on 6k!
@bradman91usa Жыл бұрын
Pathfinder is my favorite midrange I have I'll have to try those others
@blazdndazd2 жыл бұрын
I dig the Wizard shirt, you should definitely check out their plastic. SSS Wizards are my favorite. Throw, putt or turbo, they do it all.
@BodanzaDiscGolf2 жыл бұрын
shirt came with a shipment of plastic, video coming soon ish lol! I have a lot in the works
@Daviswilder12 жыл бұрын
You're slaying it bro. Keep it up!
@nickreel26782 жыл бұрын
Love the Gateway shirt! Gotta check out some of their plastic!!
@Koa1989 Жыл бұрын
I bag a fission hex and a glow hex. I did get a lizottle but decided to keep it for the collection instead
@123altron Жыл бұрын
Buzzz Dimensions: Diameter: 21.7 cm Height: 1.9 cm Rim Depth: 1.3 cm Rim Width: 1.2 cm Hex Dimensions: Diameter: 21.4 cm Height: 1.6 cm Rim Depth: 1.3 cm Rim Width: 1.4 cm Pathfinder Dimensions: Diameter: 21.5 cm Height: 1.7 cm Rim Depth: 1.3 cm Rim Width: 1.4 cm
@billherrera63862 жыл бұрын
Ah not a Fission Hex. Fission Hex is amazing. . MVP has some of the best midranges like the Pryo, Reactor, Uplink, and Paradox as well. Also, MVP makes the molds for Mint and TSA. If you want more stable, Reactor is the way to go.
@johnsullivan33382 жыл бұрын
I think thoughtspace is trying to do what discraft is really good at. The different plastics have different stability levels.
@KRRT2 жыл бұрын
I think you should try o midrange battle with your truth lineup vs the hex, a neutron reactor which is one tick more stable, and an eclipse glow reactor which is one more tick again. I swapped the glow reactor for a pyro in my bag cause I wanted more stability for that slot so that's also an option but that starts to move beyond truths into beat up justice territory
@BillFromAZ2 жыл бұрын
I mainly use the Hex for forehand mid shots.
@rynoturtle2 жыл бұрын
I love the hex, right now I bag the paradox, uplink, and hex. Oh by the way I just got my 2 inner cores from trash panda in today and am loving them.
@ahsleywithabeard2 жыл бұрын
The Hex is a go to disc for me! I bag two (just in case).
@floovenspunker Жыл бұрын
I also recommend a Latitude 64 Claymore I have one in Opto that I really like. I just prefer the Hex and Buzzz SS over it. But the Claymore is great.
@ryosapien27 Жыл бұрын
If my buzzz didn’t make the shot happen it wasn’t the buzzz. It’s the way i threw the buzzz or I threw the wrong iteration of buzzz. That’s a really important lesson. At some point you just need to commit to 8-10 molds and build the way you play and cycle around those molds. It is funny to watch you kids play the “ find the magic disc game”
@NoMusicTheory Жыл бұрын
Got my first ace with a hex today. Only a 171 foot basket but extremely satisfied none the less. Awesome disc
@BodanzaDiscGolf Жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@NoMusicTheory Жыл бұрын
@@BodanzaDiscGolf thanks
@GolfInHawaii696 ай бұрын
@NoMusicTheory Which plastic do u prefer for the hex? I'm thinking either neutron or fission.
@NoMusicTheory6 ай бұрын
@@GolfInHawaii69 I don't have the biggest arm and the hex I aced with was neutron and I threw it hard hyzer.. The only fission plastic disc I have experience with is a rhythm and I can make that flip with about he same effort that made my hex hyzer so I'd imagine Fission for a flippier hex.
@nathansiesel83012 жыл бұрын
Keep it up bro! Would love to see review of the new supreme escape against copycats.
@DiscRespect2 жыл бұрын
Inchin’ your way to 10K!!
@jree632 жыл бұрын
Need to try the element by gateway and see how they compare to all those
@shanecollins4800 Жыл бұрын
The only 2 mids I bag consistently are my 167 gram neutron hex, and 175 gram eclipse reactor.
@Geo00980 Жыл бұрын
Funny I'm actually testing these 3 out for my mid spot! But idk what hex or pathfinder you're throwing because my hex is Flippy and hex is more overstable. Buzz flies exactly like you said though!
@davanillagorilla9210 Жыл бұрын
Pathfinder is my go to for any midrange shot from 100-300ft
@metalisit2 жыл бұрын
Hex is my favorite disc in my bag.
@michaellarsen72762 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it's the discs that you have or how you are throwing them, but I've thrown the Hex and the Pathfinder a lot. The Aura Pathfinder (across multiple discs) is definitely more stable than the Hex overall. I no longer throw buzzes.
@coreycalamity13952 жыл бұрын
go to flounders on pensacola beach in gulf breeze. i lived there for awhile flounders is a awesome restaurant
@natatortot2 жыл бұрын
Those P. McBeth Buzzz's definitely tend to be on the more stable side. They throw more like a Roc3 imo
@danieldziepak65612 жыл бұрын
Im jealous you're wearing shorts...I live in Indiana and its been snowing😔
@JuanJimenez-od1ho2 жыл бұрын
I’ve played that course 2x. In the summer; a million mosquitoes, but still fun. Yeah, gulf breeze!
@Decati1322 жыл бұрын
Bodanza upload when it said 1 min upload with one view? frick yes!
@prattacaster2 жыл бұрын
For sure Buzzz has a tad more stability than the Hex and also has a more blunt nose which is why it doesn't glide as much. This makes it easier to control for the giant arms tho. I throw an Emac Truth but really love the Hex as well
@eikzoon40082 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you testing out the Halloween editions buzz instead of the esp . My opinion less stable then the esp just holds the line forever - Halloween buzz lover
@jcurtisss2 жыл бұрын
Hex is definitely a great midrange! You should do a review on the Innova jay, I haven’t seen any reviews on it yet on KZbin and compare it to a prodigy m4.
@danielskyvulstad27002 жыл бұрын
I think the Aura plastic from toughtspace is the least stable. When Ethereal and Ethos is more stable. Even on the construct it has -2 in the aura plastic instead of its normal -1
@kimmomatikainen18432 жыл бұрын
I have never thrown Pathfinder so I can't comment on that. Buzzzes I have thrown for almost 20 years, but I don't bag it anymore. Hex used to be in my bag when it came out. In generally Buzzz is more stable than Hex. My MVP' Reactor is closer to Buzzz than Hex. There are a lot of similar midranges. Royal line Trust would be a very good option, if you like Buzzz's stability and want tackier and better plastic. I know many who have replaced their Buzzz with Trust. 1-3 grams in weight has absolutely no impact in stability.
@i2Shea5 ай бұрын
Nice shirt my man!!
@gld3gld3 Жыл бұрын
I love my Pathfinder!
@adamhall52922 жыл бұрын
I enjoy my buzz and my wasp. I'll be more than happy to take that buzz off your hands since you're not a fan of it lol
@patrickfickey30792 жыл бұрын
The roc3 in dx plastic is by far the best mid range in my opinion I have tried sooo many mids and none compare to the roc3 in control.. it is the only dx plastic disc I use but it is my most dependable disc
@justinbeatty4762 жыл бұрын
You should try the uv reactive tuff buzzz from foundation disc golf. It feels a lot better then the esp buzzz. A really cool disc.
@blazorro25582 жыл бұрын
Are you coming out to Gainesville Fl still even if you don’t get off the wait list for the CHO?
@BodanzaDiscGolf2 жыл бұрын
I'm not, we're heading toward NOLA right now, and then will come back through that area maybe late december or jan
@blazorro25582 жыл бұрын
@@BodanzaDiscGolf heard that be safe my brother
@Inkredibledesignz2 жыл бұрын
You need to tryout Wickham park in Melbourne Florida great place to throw
@jimmyblundell76002 жыл бұрын
You've got friends in KC? Hope to catch you at a course sometime if you're ever strolling through! I'll turn you on to more MVP ;) Also: as others have said, a hex / reactor combo is fantastic. I'm not a buzzz guy either. The hex will beat in to a fantastic flip to slight turn disc. The reactor definitely has more bite, but does not sacrifice much glide at all, and so when you do beat said hex in, you'll love having that reactor there as the slightly beefier compliment. I throw the hex for any midrange I'm not crazy concerned about having to end up to the left with (RHBH). But still, as you've seen, fresh hexes will still fight out.
@aseamgaming51752 жыл бұрын
stop by mobile and try the admiral and play around this weekend
@discgolf4492 жыл бұрын
Buzzzes you can crush on it won’t really flip on you. I think it objectively is a straighter, more reliable disc
@Screeeling Жыл бұрын
Neutron Soft Hex will beat in to be VERY straight. If you want one that will continue to be stable, even after it's beat in, try the eclipse glow plastic. I bag both now, since they fly differently.
@5th-Season Жыл бұрын
Where do you get a neutron soft hex? Or even a neutron hex?
@joshuamoser64962 жыл бұрын
Aura plastic is usually not as stable as ethos or ethereal. And it’s 173g. Pathfinder is noticeably more stable than my hex. Mine is a max weight ethereal and it’s little to no turn and a solid 1 to 1.5 fade when new
@discninjas9284 Жыл бұрын
The hex is my favorite and the hex is more shallow then the buzz in the hand
@matthewwilson33992 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the best 😂
@dave9dnb-00 Жыл бұрын
Nice wizard shirt.
@levimagruder8808 Жыл бұрын
I bag 2 buzzz’s and an OS and SS buzzz
@jkdubya852 жыл бұрын
I throw my hexes (one 179 weight one 167) every chance I get.
@robross3531 Жыл бұрын
Love the hex
@alexanderjagell29632 жыл бұрын
Tested lat64 trust? I throw mids to 350 max that's a really straight mid for me.
@Ellothere422 жыл бұрын
Hex is a great disc, great feel but the Mind Bender has replaced the hex in my bag.
@matoswald28102 жыл бұрын
I used to throw the buzzz before i found the Prodiscus midari.