The NEW Vallejo Game Color range reviewed (all 134 paints!)

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Stahly (Tale of Painters)

Stahly (Tale of Painters)

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@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters 9 ай бұрын
I've got a hand-painted digital swatch with all new Game & Xpress Colors here to download: www.patreon.com/stahlytaleofpainters/shop Update 2024: I've heard from quite a few people now that they have issues with bubbling paint. I address this issue in my review of the new Model Color range, which has pretty much the same formula as the new Game Colors: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5yqpaCJg7eSgM0si=7yNgG0hVT6XKkJdE&t=712 For this, I have to deduct a point and give the acrylics 8/10 instead of 9/10.
@AngelGiraldeZ
@AngelGiraldeZ Жыл бұрын
I would like to mention that Pedro Gonzalez and Jaume Ortiz have also worked on this project, in addition to the chemists from Vallejo; they have done a great job :)
@dc345601
@dc345601 Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me where I can buy the xpress colors line? I live in the US and haven’t found anywhere to buy them.
@christopherheintz2634
@christopherheintz2634 Жыл бұрын
@@dc345601 Not out till March in the us, I believe.
@steveisaak4320
@steveisaak4320 Жыл бұрын
@@dc345601Michigan toy soldier has them up for pre order and expects them in February I believe
@dc345601
@dc345601 Жыл бұрын
@@steveisaak4320 awesome, thank you!
@poorhammer2d
@poorhammer2d Жыл бұрын
Hey, you can check-out my channel, I used tale of painter's Iybraesil army to make proxy paper eldars, there's a video of them I made yesterday although I changed some units, like edited Farseer to nr more animu xd, I mean I have all Dire Avengers, Dark Reapers etc. too, I kinda stole it but I dont profit from it so I gave that painting job a "second life".. In 8th my friend deployed them as Custom Craftworld Iybraesil normally but now, had to be deployed as Ulthwe due to rule changes in 9th
@Draculord666
@Draculord666 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love how in-depth your reviews are without being sensationalized or biased about every new range being life changing.
@ravager990
@ravager990 Жыл бұрын
I agree, would be amazing if every product review was similar and it would save everybody soo much time if reviews were soo well structured and to the point as these, alas it is not the case. Mostly because people just "consume" videos so creators will do the usual 20 minute rant about their life and then 1minute of actual helpful review. Can't even find good PC hardware reviews anymore without the usual clowning of shilling for one company and dumping on another... yes very helpful for a consumer. :(
@kaz9357
@kaz9357 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the work you put into these reviews. You go very in depth, and cover everything myself as a hobby painter would care about. The fact that you don't talk up every new product as either life changing or a dumpster fire is big. Truly refreshing to listen to someone with knowledge review the product for what it is.
@wasmic5z
@wasmic5z Жыл бұрын
Note on chemistry: Polyurethane varnishes are water based, just like acrylic varnishes. Both consist of a water-suspended medium that polymerises into plastic, but the chemistry involved is different between the two. I've used the Vallejo Premium Colours varnishs (which are also polyurethane based) for a while and have never had problems with them reactivating other paints. In general, you need alcohols of some sort (usually isopropyl alcohol) in order to dissolve acrylic paints. Except, apparently, for the Army Painter Speedpaints, which can be reactivated by pure water.
@swaaahtome
@swaaahtome Жыл бұрын
Random question but you seem like you might know.. I have Vallejo Polyurethane varnish, can you thin it with water? Ive heard mixed things.. Is polyurethane the best varnish for minis?
@wasmic5z
@wasmic5z Жыл бұрын
@@swaaahtome "Best" depends on what you want. Enamel varnishes are stronger than polyurethane, but polyurethane is easier and simpler to use. If you want something that's just incredibly tough, then an enamel varnish (such as the clear paints from Revell Email Colours or Humbrol Enamel Colours) are the best way to go. They are insanely tough. But they must be thinned down with oil thinners or isopropyl alcohol, which makes them hard to work with. I have used them, though, at times - when I really needed maximum durability. Also, isopropyl alcohol dissolves acrylic paints, so if you're applying them onto a figure painted with acrylics, make sure that you're using oil-based thinners, or at least use an airbrush if you insist on using isopropyl alcohol as the thinner. Polyurethane varnish is considerably weaker than enamel varnish, but it is still stronger than acrylic varnishes. Most of them are probably already water-based, so there should be no problem with thinning them down further using water. Just make sure to apply several coats for optimal protection, especially if you thin them down.
@mattcurr9931
@mattcurr9931 Жыл бұрын
yep i use their PU varnish all the time, Ive never had a problem. I consider it superior to the "normal" range for game minis yes and can be thinned with water, just dont go too far with the thinning (i use a 0.5mm airbrush)
@jamesn2830
@jamesn2830 Жыл бұрын
I also use PU varnishes thanks for the info
@rogthepirate4593
@rogthepirate4593 Жыл бұрын
Can confirm, I use the premium color varnishes as well and never had any issues with them at all.
@ericlang7408
@ericlang7408 Жыл бұрын
You definitely set the standard for how product review should be. Thank you for your impartial and in-depth reviews. I was wondering how this range compares with the Vallejo's Model Colour range?
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
The Model Color range is also very matt and has obviously a different selection of colours, I'd say that Model Color has a thicker consistency. Game Colors are a bit thinner and creamer while still retaining a very high level of pigmentation.
@alaustriel
@alaustriel Жыл бұрын
@@stahly_taleofpainters Hello Stahly and thanks a lot for the review! Regarding their consistency do you think they could be used just out-of-the bottle, like xpress, or do you recommend some dilution with water?
@peterbaysdell
@peterbaysdell Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review; it is tremendously helpful. It provides an in-depth assessment of nearly all significant aspects of the range, from paint characteristics to gaps in the range to even the changes in the bottles. The combination of testing, broad experience of other brands, and solid examples make this a great review rather than just a set of opinions
@MSnell
@MSnell Жыл бұрын
I really wish Vallejo would stop sleeping on the Metal Color range. They have the best acrylic metallics on the market but are apparently not interested in expanding it to include more colors. I know they primarily market it for use with real-world scale model vehicles, but they are just as viable for miniatures and still look and perform better than everything else. Taking that formula and bringing some of the silvers plus some new colors into the Game Color range was a missed opportunity in my opinion.
@Nicol80145
@Nicol80145 Жыл бұрын
If you use the metal panel and, fighter jet and engine metalic airbrush sets you'd have a good variety of metal colors.
@NiceHulk
@NiceHulk Жыл бұрын
I've got a couple of the Vallejo Metal Color range - Silver and Gun Metal. But they always separate just a few short seconds after I put them on my (dry) palette. Even after shaking the bottle for several minutes. What can be done to prevent this?
@muffinlord3168
@muffinlord3168 Жыл бұрын
@@NiceHulk Nothing much, just give them a bit of a mix with the tip of your brush before applying them, they mix back together really easily
@LamplighterMinis
@LamplighterMinis 4 ай бұрын
No joke, they need a better gold and a bronze to make it the ultimate
@Gumlass1
@Gumlass1 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Regarding the missing colours, I see this as an extension of model colour rather than a standalone range
@robsilvester6213
@robsilvester6213 Жыл бұрын
Definitely. Restricting yourself to only one paint line or brand is silly (though I get if your local stores only carry a few or one brand) I mix and match ranges constantly, and have never really noticed any kind of glaring clash of matt vs gloss finish. YMMV, but even if it is bugging you, a quick coat of your favourite varnish will quickly give you a consistent finish.
@gomezzara_creative
@gomezzara_creative Жыл бұрын
The King of the Product Reviews in our hobby world. ++A video as always Stahly!
@11AleZZ
@11AleZZ Жыл бұрын
The "Heavy" colors were pretty good range as a solid base color, also dry rust and blood were excellent for the price.
@Anjohl
@Anjohl Жыл бұрын
Did they drop the Heavy range?!
@11AleZZ
@11AleZZ Жыл бұрын
@@Anjohl yes, no more heavy range
@Dreoni_
@Dreoni_ Жыл бұрын
I agree with your findings, I tested them at a con and found them amazing. I bought all the acrylics and the xpress range plus a couple others. The white ink for example is great through an airbrush for zenital.
@jakobsjoling107
@jakobsjoling107 Жыл бұрын
I like the fact that you don't just give your opinion but also mention how the new paints behave and notes where you see potential uses even when you don't think you'l be using thm like that. It helps me decide whether that would fit in my painting style. Thank you for that!
@theenigmaticgamer
@theenigmaticgamer 5 ай бұрын
I have viewed three of your video reviews today and am really impressed by the manner of your presentation and the thoroughness of your reviews. You cover all the points we painters need to know and your unbiased approach is really helpful .
@Veles343
@Veles343 Жыл бұрын
This was a really great review. I didn't realise it was a re-formulation, just assumed they were updating the branding of the range
@hojocollider5276
@hojocollider5276 Жыл бұрын
I have primarily been rocking with the ProAcryl line since I first sampled them at Warfaire Weekend a few years ago. Like most advanced mini painters it is difficult for me to use just one brand, but I would define my big 3 as ProAcryl, Citadel, and AK. Like all new paint ranges, I look forward to trying Vallejo's new range for some of my favorite colors to see how I like the way they flow. Glad to see that Angel Giraldez is taking his paint range to an expanded level, this is always great for the hobby.
@drcrushy1529
@drcrushy1529 Жыл бұрын
Easily the best paint reviewer on youtube. Keep it up
@ericlang7408
@ericlang7408 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this very comprehensive review!! As always your paint reviews are the gold standard! Such a shame your channel still remains small, hope this will change soon!
@aartadventure
@aartadventure Жыл бұрын
An impressive and detailed review without any time wasting filler. Thank you!
@RisingApe
@RisingApe Жыл бұрын
Great review, like AK 3rd Gen and Pro Acryl is good enough for me.
@lordlasadies7960
@lordlasadies7960 Жыл бұрын
"Thanks for the great paint review! Your breakdown of the different types of paints was really helpful. Appreciate the time you put into it. Keep it up!"
@WhatMACHI
@WhatMACHI Жыл бұрын
This was an amazing review of the new line! Thanks for all the time and effort to put this together.
@majones117
@majones117 Жыл бұрын
Wow this was in depth. Not was I was searching for, but what I absolutely needed to watch.
@Wijkert
@Wijkert Жыл бұрын
One small thing that I really appreciate about this refresh is the new bottles being see through. I tend to decant paints when I don't like the bottles and I exclusively like ones that are completely see through. It makes it much easier to tell what color the paint is. The exception being contrast like paints, because they tend to look different in the bottles anyways.
@robsilvester6213
@robsilvester6213 Жыл бұрын
I certainly like being able to see the paint colour clearly, but I have nagging doubts. I associate crystal clear plastic bottles with an increased propensity to crack, so when used in a product meant to be squeezed, it's asking for trouble IMHO. Not all clear plastics have this problem, but it does feel like a majority, so I hope they did their homework.
@Wijkert
@Wijkert Жыл бұрын
@@robsilvester6213 fair point. I can happily report that non cracked and non have been showing signs of wear.
@TheScalyArab
@TheScalyArab Жыл бұрын
Changed to AK 3rd generation, and haven't looked back.
@cloudmastr8105
@cloudmastr8105 2 ай бұрын
I like them a lot, though I haven’t tried Vallejo before the new formulas and I was impressed 😅
@otinane89
@otinane89 Жыл бұрын
Nice review as usual, thanks! The fact that the acrylics are so good is definately good news!
@MarkusMaximus2000
@MarkusMaximus2000 Жыл бұрын
Superbly thorough and honest review of this new range. You've highlighted things to consider that I wouldn't have normally looked out for such as the bottle design and matt being easier to rub off. Brilliant review thankyou.
@anthonywaggett9317
@anthonywaggett9317 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review a great mix of personal opinion and empirical evidence clearly defined so that we can see that this is not the work of someone with a hidden Agenda. I have only just come across your videos and I am off to watch the rest - I enjoy your clear, simple and thorough presentation style.
@duncanmcdane388
@duncanmcdane388 3 ай бұрын
Thanks again for reviewing a new paint line. Will try a couple of nice colours first before delving in ( never had many VGC colours because I like the VMC colours more - not talking about quality, just the colours - but one can never have enough paint ;-).
@atkbovine
@atkbovine Жыл бұрын
These paint reviews are always great!
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate :)
@christopherkelly9153
@christopherkelly9153 Жыл бұрын
I am a Reaper Paint user, but you have a really good review without useless fluff. You got my subscription.
@DrNorbertGames
@DrNorbertGames Жыл бұрын
Knocked another great review out of the park Stahly. Thank you for putting so much effort into these videos.
@buddhawasright
@buddhawasright Жыл бұрын
I like how your lighting reflection makes it look like you have pink eye make-up. Suits your personality perfectly!
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
I take it as a compliment I guess? :D
@alwoodsmodellingmayhem
@alwoodsmodellingmayhem Жыл бұрын
Such a useful review again. I have been painting miniatures on and off for 40 years and it is probably because I have long breaks why I have not really improved. But your review covered everything I think that a figure painter needs to be aware of with a paint range. I love Citadel as they were my first acrylic paint, but their pots are such a pain in the neck that I am looking to change to another range. I have used Vallejo Model Colour range for my WW2 military vehicles and figures. This video must have taken you hours with all the detail you provided. Thanks do much for taking the time and effort. 👏👏👍👍😉
@elleofmusic
@elleofmusic Жыл бұрын
oh man, I really love Ghost Grey and Livery Green 😭 But this review has been super helpful!
@jeremiahembs5343
@jeremiahembs5343 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious to try D&D Prismatic Paint: Livery Green.
@dadoffour
@dadoffour Жыл бұрын
I loved ghost grey aswell
@DICED
@DICED Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this awesome Video. Helped a lot
@justinkotrba2197
@justinkotrba2197 Жыл бұрын
Awesome super indepth review. Thanks for doing all that work. Really interested in seeing how the metal medium will turn out with different colors
@scoobydruid
@scoobydruid 7 ай бұрын
Amazing review, as always. I'm happy to hear the base colors were rated 9.0-9.5 -- that's really impressive. Their price and color range makes them unmatched. Once they start becoming readily available in the US, I look forward to picking them up.
@jamesgunn9633
@jamesgunn9633 Жыл бұрын
I rarely comment on videos but this was an outstanding review. Very well structured and spoken, keen to see what you review in the future.
@avantasiaftw
@avantasiaftw Жыл бұрын
If you want coverage from orange and yellows then you need to use Contrast paints, some of those are amazing for coverage.
@harrisonlorens3585
@harrisonlorens3585 Жыл бұрын
Great work! Thank you for the in depth review.
@DaHobbles
@DaHobbles Жыл бұрын
Extremely well done review! Easily the most well thought out way I’ve seen done in the platform 👍👍
@MisterTingles
@MisterTingles Жыл бұрын
i appreciate the thought of arranging the colors in triads (roughly), army painter does it with their warpaints air range, and while i don't know how rigidly i would really adhere to the groupings, it does help give an indication of whether a hue is leaning more into the cold or warm spectrum for example, and it may give some indication to help painters with different types of colorblindness, although I can't speak with any authority on that, just occured to me... matt finish sounds good in my book as well, always nice to be able to depend on how your paints will behave when they dry, so i don't have to varnish out of necessity all the damn time
@camrenmike7311
@camrenmike7311 Жыл бұрын
I just picked these up a few weeks ago and I love the coverage. Haven’t tried the yellow or orange sad to hear they don’t cover as good.
@cyrilabati8705
@cyrilabati8705 Жыл бұрын
Man, you have done your homework ! I realy liked the complete and deep review, very professional. Just discovered your channel today, you get a new subscriber 🙂
@gorkamorka999
@gorkamorka999 Жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I've switched over to VGC some time ago was that the range was consistent and didn't change all the time. Well...bummer.
@eetennak966
@eetennak966 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Hope ypu can keep your honesty in your growth to a big youtuber. Quality video. Ty
@Sikkasill
@Sikkasill Жыл бұрын
What a great, informative video that is to the point but easy to follow!
@taco36963
@taco36963 Жыл бұрын
i find i pick my paints just because of the color and price. Since I am disabled I can not really afford GW paints. They have literally priced me out of buying them. So far Vallejo has done a great job with their paint ranges and I'm new to the line and have to admit I LOVE them ! I have used GW for over 20 years. Dropper bottles are awesome and since I am just a tabletop standard painter . I just want a paint that works and is affordable. Vallejo checks those boxes. I just used one of these new color range on my MCP Green Goblin and it worked out great.
@brendanarmstrong7802
@brendanarmstrong7802 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff! I'd love to see reviews of other layering paints such as Kimera or Pro Acryl in the future.
@mrgunn2726
@mrgunn2726 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your reviews, I look forward to them. Keep up the great work Herr Stahly.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
Dankeschön! :)
@Badbunny666
@Badbunny666 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review.
@Thornspyre81
@Thornspyre81 7 ай бұрын
I really liked the Heavy paints in the old range.
@NoUseForAName06
@NoUseForAName06 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the in depth review. I am happy to hear I can stick to my beloved AK-Interactive paints for now. Maybe I'll pick out a few of the colors you recommendet.
@gazamataz6839
@gazamataz6839 Жыл бұрын
Big fan. I really like all the new paints I have used so far.
@Spaniard727
@Spaniard727 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video breakdown! Fantastic work
@nikolaosalexandroskaloumen1693
@nikolaosalexandroskaloumen1693 Жыл бұрын
Love how you explain the comparisons for every type of colour between the brands! Would be nice to do a video of your choices for every type. For example Vallejo for base colour, Two Thin Coats for metallics, GW for Technical etc 🙏
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
Good idea! Though it changes often, so maybe that's more suited to an article over on taleofpainters.com, which I can update regularly :)
@nikolaosalexandroskaloumen1693
@nikolaosalexandroskaloumen1693 Жыл бұрын
@@stahly_taleofpainters I didn’t know about your blog! Thanks 👀
@alaustriel
@alaustriel Жыл бұрын
@@nikolaosalexandroskaloumen1693 Give it a look, there are also Garfy's articles
@EdAllen
@EdAllen Жыл бұрын
Sadly, in my part of the U.S. Vallejo have pretty much disappeared from the stores, with store employees saying they just became too spotty in availability from distribution.
@Brickfrog427
@Brickfrog427 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if the original Vallejo Game Color line was supposed to be made in a kind of partnership with GW, but it does make a lot of sense because I can absolutely feel that. I mean, one of the paints is called Goblin Green, the famous Citadel bright green paint-your-base-rims flavor of choice! I really feel like incidents like this with paints, the Chapterhouse lawsuit with models, the very similair looking words like Starcraft and Warcraft, have all just inflicted some kind of psychic trauma on GW that reflexively makes them circle the wagons and make sure every single thing has copyrightable names and trademarks. I mean, I'm not defending it, but just kinda understanding it.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the original Game Color range mirrored the Citadel paint range from the 2000s colour by colour (Heavys were supposed to copy Citadel's Foundation paints, though they were just reusing the Model Color formula for them).
@thehobbygit281
@thehobbygit281 Жыл бұрын
But those paints weren't invented by GW. Those paints that both Vallejo and Army Painter match closely are based on the Cote D'Arms paint range, which for a time GW just slapped the Citadel branding onto. They changed paint ranges because they wanted to move everything in house, so they could have paints they do protect. GW didn't invent the word Goblin after all, nor did they have much to do with the creation of Goblin Green. This redo of the range just smacks of a cash grab. Game Color was already a solid paint range. I'm probably just going to stop using Vallejo.
@MaxPower666
@MaxPower666 Жыл бұрын
Nice review. Thanks for that!
@ericlang7408
@ericlang7408 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this superb review. I have heard about the new range since October, but I am still unable to find them here in the UK, which is upsetting. It looks to me the marketing campaign started too early
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
Element Games has them from what I've seen: elementgames.co.uk/paints-hobby-and-scenery/paints-washes-etc/vallejo-paints/new-game-color?d=10237
@absalomvane7776
@absalomvane7776 Жыл бұрын
This video was just recommended to me, and it's very well done! I especially appreciate the warning to stock up on Livery Green while I can. A question, though: What's with the costume? If this video is an indication, you're good enough that you don't need a gimmick.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
Cheers. I don't feel comfortable plastering my face all over the internet, so the mask is a compromise that still allows me to speak to the camera. And maybe it's also a gimmick that helps people to remember my channel :)
@TheGreySpectrum
@TheGreySpectrum Жыл бұрын
The lack of change in their lineup, or "consistency", is why I have been using Vallejo paints for close to a decade now. Now that we're getting this shit that I sincerely doubt the majority of people using the paints were really asking for (big name and 'pro' painters do not reflect the majority, nor do journalists), discontinued and no longer matching paints, and 'FOMO' seeming to have finally come to Vallejo, I don't think I'm going to bother buying their paints again. The fact that if something happened to the paints I currently have and I have no means of replacing them puts a bitter taste in my mouth that borderline makes me not even want to bother.
@942mattu
@942mattu Жыл бұрын
Great review. Definetly will be trying some of these :).
@surtrpicks
@surtrpicks Жыл бұрын
Great vids, stay at it man. It will happen I’m thinking. Quality is there man.
@mirage809
@mirage809 Жыл бұрын
I recently tried my hand at some Vallejo paints (model color specifcally) and my mind has blown by the quality of them. Their paints cover incredibly well and provide a beautifully smooth and matte finish. Also dropper bottles are amazing and I find myself wondering how I've gone for so many years without them. It's a shame that the updated game color range has some misses. Yellows are difficult colors to get right though. The gold is a crying shame. Nothing seems to come close to how nice Retributor Armour is. Those washes look interesting though. I'm lukewarm on the new formulation of Citadel shades, so anything that's more like their old recipe is a good thing in my book.
@siha05
@siha05 Жыл бұрын
thank you! was what i needed, was looking for buying in to vallejo from citadel.
@lordunborn
@lordunborn Жыл бұрын
Amazing review. Thank you.
@carnajom8831
@carnajom8831 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this extensive review. If you had them on hand I’d love to know how the new scrofulous brown compares to the old because it’s one of my favorites and can’t decide if I must buy some of the old while I still can. In terms of color, obviously the new one will be matte which is cool
@YetiLord
@YetiLord Жыл бұрын
Yea the new metallics are fantastic. No clue what this dudes on about. They are so smooth and have great coverage.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
They are okayish, but have you tried Vallejo Mecha Color, Two Thin Coats or ProAcryl metallics?
@stephenshields4095
@stephenshields4095 Жыл бұрын
6 months ago this video was made. I still cant find anywhere online that sells the new paints, let alone the Games AIR paint they just came out with. Hard to find new
@goforitpainting
@goforitpainting Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to trying the new paints.
@Scribbinge
@Scribbinge Жыл бұрын
"Was the old game color range really so bad?!" Yes. Game color was my first ever paint purchase and i found it really miserable to work with. The amount of water you had to add to one colour would be completely different for another which made it so hard to learn thinning. I later picked up some scale 75, pro acryl and even vallejo model color paints and the difference in consistency was madness. Really appreciate your reviews. As always they're thorough and backed up with clear visual comparisons. Really the best there is on YT every time.
@nicholassinnett2958
@nicholassinnett2958 Жыл бұрын
Same, I stopped using them after I got sick of fighting against the paint. I had frequent issues with poor pigment count, random colours drying super-glossy, horrible separation in the bottle that usually needed manual stirring to fix, and that chalky white-pigment texture on even some fairly dark colours. It just feels like a cheaply made budget paint, despite being the same price here as Model Color. The only thing I use from the OG Game Color line now are the Extra Opaques (which are great, since they're literally Model Colors with different branding) and inks. But I'll be trying the Game Color 2.0, since the reviews all seem positive.
@toferkrz946
@toferkrz946 Жыл бұрын
The old Vallejo Game Color paint range had the distinction of being even more garbage than Army Painter, which is quite an achievement. Killing off that line was long overdue, it actively hurt Vallejo brand recognition because people would get a recommendation to 'buy Vallejo paints' with no further context, they'd buy Game Color instead of Model Color and go on swearing that trolls on the internet pulled their leg with this Vallejo crap. I've seen it happen dozens of times.
@funkymoped537
@funkymoped537 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Not sure why it's hated so much. I bought a full VGC set in 2004 and they have been superb. The odd paint has a slightly different finish or consistency, but it's not hard to work around. They shat on the contemporary GW paint and pretty much everything else that was around at the time. Better stuff has come along, but they're hardly unusable...
@TashiMortier
@TashiMortier Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review! Especially the part about the washes was very helpful. I'm totally with you on the metallics... Once they are applied I think they look fantastic. But as you said they are so thin and hard to handle. And on top of that I found they don't take washes well at all. Like the washes just flow off them like they had some lotus effect... So I think I'll sell them on again. Going to buy more of the regular acrylics though. :D
@MsMirage2012
@MsMirage2012 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic review
@vermillionhugh
@vermillionhugh Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review 👏👏👏👏👍
@MadelineMoonwall
@MadelineMoonwall Ай бұрын
i use a bunch of washes, including brown ink. I feel shafted right now ^^' And the blue wash is just a totally different product at this point. My entire army paint scheme is now moot for future products and i have just the hardest times replacing these colours with something that even comes close to my desired end result. The only option i can still think of is buying Highlord Blue from armypainter, or buying up older bottles of blue wash :(
@jacenchrisbaker
@jacenchrisbaker Жыл бұрын
Your review work is spectacular Stahly. Now to decide if I wanna spend the extra scratch on the new VGC when I already have all of Pro Acryl. haha
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
Choices^^ As the ProAcryl range is not that large, maybe try a few to close some gaps and see if you like them?
@jacenchrisbaker
@jacenchrisbaker Жыл бұрын
@@stahly_taleofpainters I've always used VMC as my 'daily driver' paint range, but ended up with Pro Acryl due to general pigment density and coverage, as for every great VMC color, you'd have two that were not that great. The new Game Color line is getting positive feedback though, and it seems the general criticisms of the Game Color line before have been taken care of (coverage and finish). I may start picking them up in chunks (not all 70+ at once like I did with Pro Acryl). I've been going back and forth between AK and ScaleColor, and I may end up with Game Color before touching the non-metallic Scale75 stuff.
@HerrMarajin
@HerrMarajin Жыл бұрын
I'm really not a fan of them discontinuing some colors without any replacement, especially the extra opaque colors hurt, I really liked pretty much all of those and used Heavy Khaki on most of my Mechanicus Terrain. I hope they didn't mess too much with what used to be Heavy Charcoal, I use that on just about every model. The metallics look rather disappointing, especially since the old game color metallics weren't really all that great to begin with and there was lots of room too improve upon them. Especially, like you said, with Vallejo producing some really good metallics in other ranges. A little bit more paint, better consistency and coverage sound very good tho. I guess I will have to stock up on some paint before it's gone. Thanks for the review.
@Jimalcoatl
@Jimalcoatl Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Heavy brown and heavy gold brown are pretty integral to my gold NMM recipe.
@eatadick4127
@eatadick4127 Жыл бұрын
Especially considering like with some of the browns, they've added new colors that are nearly the same as each other
@DerBomster
@DerBomster Жыл бұрын
Biggest takeaway for me is that there is something that might work somewhat like old-formular Nuln Oil! 😄 I'm shocked though that Smoky Ink is gone, that was really an old stalwart that I've been using for more than a decade...
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too... so stock up now!
@rogthepirate4593
@rogthepirate4593 Жыл бұрын
This is a great review, thanks a lot. I've already treated myself to the new express colors last year (and I am very glad that I did) and have been thinking about having a look at the regular game color acrylics. I only had a small set of the old ones and am currently considering whether or not to go for the full 80 color range. After this review, I think that will likely happen (not that I need more paints, but who ever does?). But I'll definitely pass on the inks, metallics and effect paints (I have the model air metallics range and the old effect paints set, don't really see any reason to get more), with a "maybe" on the washes - I've never really used colored washes a lot and I figure that thinned express paints might just do pretty much the same job. One question though: How do the base acrylics behave on a wet palette with the new medium? I've been using ProAcryl for a while and while they're really great paints, they tend to separate on the palette fairly quickly and worse than any other paint I've ever seen (including the old ArmyPainter range, which is saying something ... ). As far as I've read this is due to ProAcryl's gel medium. Do the new game colors have a similar issue?
@Vortid
@Vortid Жыл бұрын
You make great reviews!
@peterlageri4177
@peterlageri4177 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the pigment used for yellow colours are more expensive than other pigments and since each bottle cost the same there is a maximum price for what pigments can then be used. Looking a oil paints the price varies depending on the colour. It's all dependent on the quality and scarcity of the pigment.
@lavawolf666
@lavawolf666 10 ай бұрын
the polyuretane varnish still being water base, you can thin them with water, , the liquit part is still being water, so they are still water base. the polyuretane is not the solvent, ps i had being using exclisively those barnishes from som time no issue with them, they are self leveling, and have good durability
@joelmcguire3780
@joelmcguire3780 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! Just here to support the algorithm
@iantomlinson7722
@iantomlinson7722 Жыл бұрын
it would be nice to see a video review about your opinons over Pro Acryl, since you seem to talk about them alot aswell but i have yet to see a video yet from you.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely on my To Do list!
@mattcurr9931
@mattcurr9931 Жыл бұрын
@@stahly_taleofpainters especially with all the new colours
@PauloRuizG
@PauloRuizG Жыл бұрын
Thansk for the review!
@mrsupaconducta
@mrsupaconducta Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison.
@desertzombie
@desertzombie Жыл бұрын
I would like to try some of the new stuff, but I have The Army Painter and Citadel for the more colourful range. I do have the Model Colour range( historical stuff), and I do really enjoy it. And their metallic range is one of the best I have used. Amazing coverage.
@williamgiltay2409
@williamgiltay2409 Жыл бұрын
love your reviews
@DrRakis
@DrRakis Жыл бұрын
Great review thanks!
@jothewerewolf
@jothewerewolf Жыл бұрын
How do the washes blend? The red/blue/yellow ones look like nicely saturated primary colors, and if they're mixing ready, that might explain the weird pigmentation of the yellow, and the light hue of all of them.
@TheEnd
@TheEnd Жыл бұрын
@14:00 some lichen grows orange I have some beautiful pictures I took last year of this rusty yellow infested tree along the coast that this would be a perfect match for very cool
@fuzzyhair321
@fuzzyhair321 8 ай бұрын
Ive really started getting into painting my own miniatures but i use air as my base then start paint. I bought their bright orange and reds as they seem to resemble old gw paints brightness
@chrisreindl1649
@chrisreindl1649 Жыл бұрын
Are the block pieces he uses for testing paints on 3D printed or purchased?
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Жыл бұрын
They are just textured sheets of plasticard, I actually made a blog post about how I do my paint swatches: taleofpainters.com/2021/07/top-tip-make-your-own-paint-swatch-to-organise-your-paint-collection/
@richardokeeffe8375
@richardokeeffe8375 Жыл бұрын
Excellent in depth review. What a shame about the metallics. Bad ‘segments’ of a range like those really put me off buying big paint sets despite their savings
@hollyhope7227
@hollyhope7227 6 ай бұрын
I like the way you present the reality!
@michaeljdauben
@michaeljdauben Жыл бұрын
Not sure I'm liking what I'm hearing. One of the reason I dumped Citadel paint was because they kept changing their colors. I'm also not a fan of the "triad" system, either.
@sebastianrubio928
@sebastianrubio928 9 ай бұрын
OK, I did good in other words, I saw the range, I impulse bought some of the game colors, I just saw them, I got way too excited and filled a bag with paints. I didn't pick any of the fluos, inks or express or metalic ones. I got so many metals already, too many in fact. Like vallejo has all these silvers & steel & aluminum, I bought them all, tested them out, they're all about the same. (GW golds, yes, those new golds are also my go to. Inks I only use rarely and I got what I need, it's about the same for contrast & washes in truth, I use them too rarely, but I do use them, I don't use them for what GW intended though. As I just bought the game paints, I'll have to test them and see how they perform, I also bought some new air ones, same here, will have to test and see in the long run if this impulse buying was a mistake or not. I'll see myself how well they cover and I'll see how well they cover, essentially I bought colors I know very well, colors I needed.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters 9 ай бұрын
Let me know how about your experiences!
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