The NEW WAY To Play F2P!! [Honkai: Star Rail]

[@VolkinYT]

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[@VyrussGG]

I'm F2P and after saving for multiple banners, this patch was insane for me. I got E1 Bronya, E2 Firefly, and Ruan Mei lightcone.

[@sizwenhari411]

Wow that's really good man, hope you keep enjoying, I'm F2P as well, got ruan mei and then lost my 50/50 for Firefly but its alright since I got E6 Xueyi and E4 Gallagher

[@xuk6042]

Ruan meis lc on harmony trailblazer is crazy skill point regeneration 😂

[@VyrussGG]

@sizwenhari411 Best outcome if you're going to lose a 50/50. Despite how strong firefly is Ruan Mei is honestly way more important to have

[@xuk6042]

@@VyrussGG honestly as a new player roughly 2 months of game time firefly was a bigger investment profit than ruan mei since I don't have the team comps that she slips into to make her worth it but I got lucky and managed E2 FF and RM and she honestly is godmode 🙂 for the break team I just find myself replacing her for Asta expect because I find them more fun and the content I'm capable of doing ATM she is pure overkill 🥴

[@sizwenhari411]

@VyrussGG I know that's why I made sure to get her first, then pull for firefly, but looks like I pushed my luck😅

[@milmil5350]

*"A really good toy > a lot of crappy toys".* Well said, Volkin. That really is the way to go 😢.I just regret I didn't learn of this sooner. Thanks for making this video. I really needed to hear this. 😭🙏

[@AngryLad_80]

so true. I realised this super late in Genshin. But I was smart in HSR. Got E2 S1 Acheron day 1

[@thisisshite]

@@AngryLad_80 same, but then I dropped the game hehe

[@lamp6909]

a really good toy < a lot of decent toys supports are op :) (as with genshin)

[@TryHard505]

priorities simply change depending on how old someone's account is. in the beginning i would never have pulled for LC or eidolons, because getting a decent amount of chars was far more important to cover as many game modes as possible... now my account is 1.5 years old and i can full clear everything on auto. i just don't need every new char which is coming out anymore.. so skipping a full patch to save up jades and get char + LC or eidolon is a lot easier and more enticing nowadays on an older account than it was on my account a year ago it's so funny to see you act as if account age does not play any part in that decision.. if you were on a new f2p account you still would go for units and not for LC, because on a fresh or newish f2p or low spender account this is the only smart thing to do

[@sampoison9166]

dis fam guy is not cooking he fried his brainrot

[@kallusive8986]

I always try to get the lightcone on the DPS characters. But don’t really stress on the others. And as far as future units, I’m probably going to aim for units that make Kafka better. I kinda need to get Houhou, but I have Black swan and Robin for her rn since Ruan mei will go to my firefly team. I was also lucky and managed to pull 5 copies of Gallagher during the firefly banner, it was wild lol.

[@traincore1955]

I never got the LC on the dps character. I also never had a problem clearing end game with S1 4* LC on the dps character om autoplay.

[@traincore1955]

And all my support are E0 with 4*/3* LC Not mention most my characters are on 2 piece hackerspeed/atk%/break and 4 piece quantum. And they all use speed boots except Robin. I truly believe this game is a character check, not an LC/FPS check.

[@haiminh237]

​@@traincore1955 more like Supporter check, my F2P acc dont have any 5* LC, but i have RuanMei, Sparkle, Robin, Aventurine, FuXuan, Huohuo. And the game is easy. 😂

[@jabermogwai5996]

​@@haiminh237this , having 5 star dps with their signature lc is nice but having a wider cast of support character is what gonna make you be able to clear end game content

[@luv.fluffychan]

5 gallaghers?!! I pulled 6 misha’s on my 80 pulls 😭 not even one xueyi and gallagher appeared on my pulls rip

[@MapleYum]

This is exactly what I did for Archeron (LC) and Firefly I went all the way and grinded every last jade in my account. Got her e2, which is the first two 50/50s I’ve won since launch. Pretty hyped.

[@gin633]

Same here, my Firefly pulls are my luckiest so far.

[@B_Kaizo]

@@gin633 Lmao and mine are the unlukiest, almost 50 bucks for her e2

[@Opti-Miser]

This is so in touch with my f2p experience kudos king!!! Ive been playing star rail a lot more vertical and skip heavy than the way I play genshin. Genshin meta lives and dies on very specific character synergies and you end up feelin like you need a lot of characters, but in HRS i feel like you can just get Acheron and Firefly and a couple universal supports and you get to have fun no matter what the game throws at you haha

[@hilo01]

That's actually an interesting take on both games. Most of the time, I see people saying the opposite, as in they need to have a lot of chars (mainly the newly-released ones) in HSR but not for Genshin. But yeah, vertical investment is the best way to go in HSR, then we can slowly expand horizontally depending on what we need, be it another DPS or Support to focus on our main teams.

[@Lew98765]

Kinda disagree genshin vertical invest is free win, or it was untill imaginarium theatre You could clear all abyss with the same teams as long as there was no elemental imunity As a fact I am a very casual player yet I cleared about 80% of all abyss with the 2 same teams just switching them when needed, which were Alhaitham quickbloom (Nahida+Kuki+Xingqiu/Yelan) Neuvillette (added recently) before I was using Rational(Raiden Xiangling Yelan/Xingqiu Bennett) Abyss rarely forced me to switch or build more chars HSR is really different elements doesnt create diversity in the gameplay they force diversity in the teams and its very hard to just cover all gameplay/damage type on all elements thats why certain units good at bruteforcing with a little invest get priorized otherwise its very hard for most players to keep up with all the different teams needed

[@JoxTheMash29]

Usually what I've been doing now since starting playing HSR literally 3 months ago is check beforehand the Eidolons of to-be-released characters and the light cone effects. Usually, I'll know immediately if I would want copies or not or just going E0S1 once I check them. But my general rule of thumb is to always get the LC for DPS characters as they could primarily be best suited in delivering the best damage as possible with QOL add-ons like Boothill's sig lightcone which adds 12% SPD and enables him to easily reach talia SPD breakpoint. The most I went for copies as of now is FF's E2 since its just that good and her lightcone. I did get Ruan Mei's E1 since its a really good E1 for universal damage due to the 20% def ignore added on her ultimate.

[@scion.]

Agree with you, I've been doing exactly the same thing! E2S1 for both FF and Acheron, E0 (some of them E1) on their respective team mates, and skipping most of the other character until the next broken character comes out... I skipped dots, fua and pretty much every Erudition or Hunt for this, no regrets. Now that we have 2 teams that can do pretty much anything we could safely skip for a long time and still have a healthy account - a F2P dream. That's why I think vertical investment pays off in the long run.

[@rookieVIP]

I just want to say thank you for making your videos! I find it so helpful to see someone actually show who they pull for their F2P account. Personally, I find it difficult to discern which character is going to be OP or not, so having someone show me which ones are gonna be good, has been a great help for my account. I usually wasn't someone who would go for LCs but for Acheron and Firefly I got them both to E0S1 and I'm so happy about it.

[@eh1165]

As a person that enjoys seeing big numbers but also collecting characters its hard to decide what to invest in. The only character i regret not pulling at all is Robin because i like harmony characters and getting e2 Acheron but there was no way i was getting that. Im a day 1 dolphin with god awful luck. My most invested teams are: 1. Break - E2S1 Firefly (got her to e2 today), E1 RM, E6 hmc, e6 Gallagher 2. Sp team - E2 Dhil, Sparkle, E6 Tingyun and Luocha/Fu Xuan 3. Dot - E0S1 Kafka, Black Swan (might try for E1), E1 RM (break has to share for now, Luocha/Fu Xuan 4. Acheron - E0S1 Acheron, Silver Wolf, E6 Pela, Fu Xuan (plan to pull Jiaoqiu)

[@ulrikruby]

I got E1S1 Seele on her first banner and got E2 on her rerun. Likewise I got E2S0 Imbibitor Lunae on his first banner and picked up the lightcone on his rerun. Luckily I managed to get Acheron E0S1, after getting E1S1 Sparkle. Lastly, I tried to get Ruan Mei’s lightcone during this current banner, but got Welt’s instead. Now I’m just saving up to get Silver Wolf eidolons and her lightcone. I’m F2P and only have eight different limited characters, but that’s because I heavily invest into the ones I really like. Unlike Volkin, I can actually clear all endgame content, even though my only built erudition character is Serval.

[@reversequintisential275]

I have also have that mindset pulling for new characters then upgrading E1 or S1 before. But I have realized that the amount of time to build a new character to scratch in this game is very long I begun to reconsider pulling new characters immediately on their first release banner specially if your account is F2P you will be running out resources so fast.

[@ayusha480]

What do you do in that case, if you don't have enough resources?

[@theteamxxx3142]

we have 2 tier 0 teams that are acheron and FF . Acheron is getting a support next patch who will be probably an upgrade over pela/SW . Besides this both team get really great boosts at E2 so u can plan to save for both and continue to upgrade the teams unless in the meanwhile something extremely broken comes out

[@MadDogDaniel]

I've been f2p for just over a year now and usually just get characters I enjoy and make them work with builds and teams. I then pull universal supports which I can use with these characters, if I like them just not as strictly. For lightcones I pull ones that again are universal and unique, such as Topaz's and Ruan Mei's, and I've also got a copy of most of the standard lightcones from either the store or standard banner. This works really well for me and I get alot of enjoyment playing the characters i like, and I could full star all the content in the game with my e0 s0 Topaz before follow up became meta using a crit kafka support and xueyi, and I enjoy experimenting making my favourite characters work. Also Volkin those pulls are insane, I would've lost my mind, look forward to the new tournament

[@DeezNuts94Bms]

Don't wanna be that guy but crit Kafka nullifies your rational post

[@ectoBiologist21]

Crit Kafka support told me all I need to know, you do you but absolutely never give advice to other players.

[@MadDogDaniel]

@@ectoBiologist21​ I never said in this post I recommend crit Kafka, however I still full clear all content with her so why does it matter? The reason why I build her with crit is because I don't use her in a dot team and had the relics. I'm gonna continue giving advice because I've boosted a lot of accounts and helped people clear content under levelled, this comment was purely to prove you don't need to be a meta player or pay to clear the game.

[@MadDogDaniel]

@@DeezNuts94Bms The reason why I build crit is because I wasn't using her in a typical dot team, although she still has a decent attack. I got her on release, and have used her in a range of different teams, like with Topaz. If anything it reinforces my point of doing whatever you enjoy and still clearing the content, I still use her with my Acheron and she's great, I full star every gamemode with her. Hope this helps clear up my reasoning for this.

[@loghead1015]

As a new player (started in the last 3 days of Boothill’s warp), I do completely agree with your idea of vertical investment with certain characters. It gives greater ease of use and can prolong the life of your characters. It can also allow them to be used in game modes that they otherwise might not have been used as well. Theirs an argument to be made on whether your saving jades or not by go for new characters or further invest in eidolons for older ones. As a new player though I’m still trying to fill out my roster of characters so I can easily tackle all the endgame. I’ve been very lucky with my special pass pulls and downright abysmal with standard. So gonna get Jade and maybe her light one to fill an eventual follow up team and for pure fiction while saving for Acheron and her eventual team.

[@MGerdtell]

I've had decent success on pure fiction with Himeko, Gallagher, Firefly and Harmony MC. So yeah, if you have a Himeko and struggle with Pure Fiction, build her. Regarding whether you go "tall" with few high investment characters or "wide" with a lot of medium investment characters depends on your account age and the arsenal you have. Just keep in mind that the upgrades have a diminishing returns effect to them. And I think there comes a point when you should stop pulling new characters unless they are a straight upgrade to existing ones and focus on upgrading with reruns.

[@rafaeldejesus7297]

You did the correct thing cause Acheron y fire fly bypass weaknesses and that huge and that’s the true value

[@Lew98765]

Even that aside they have higher damage ceilling and do feel like they reach good amount of dmg without crazy invest (Acheron just need 2 nhility units with good 4* options) and Firefly mostly want HMC and have easy stat requirement (atk speed and break effect) Both are kinda f2p queens are bruteforcing and being rather easy to build, a bit like Jingliu

[@carebear_hd3646]

I started a fresh account, got E2 firefly in about 120 summons, got Ruan Mei early aswell. Decided since I pulled everything so early I might aswell try and get LC's and got them for both aswell. My team 1 is now super powerful! Now it's basically just save until another character drops that can carry a 2nd team. Acheron would be great because she doesn't need a full 5* team to be op.

[@inspirer4763]

In Genshin I'd agree, some constellations straight up change gameplay and make it more fun. Having C1 on Xianyun for example is super fun, her E is pretty much infinite, I can fly around the world freely. But there's no gameplay in HSR, I just sit and watch characters play out the same animations in their SPD order, what all those "changes" amount to is a higher damage output, one way or another, and this damage is already more than high enough at E0.

[@UnbelievableLins]

As a E2 DHIL, E2 Acheron and E2 FF haver i see it as an absolute win.

[@brizzleyoh]

Dps are the least valuable investment wise though. So wouldn’t investing heavily into harmonies or supports be the smarter way to go?

[@T.O.Wallee]

Team 1 : Acheron, SWE1, Pela, Aventurine/FX Team 2 : FF, MC, RuanMei, Aventurine/FX/Gallagher Subs/benched : Topaz, Clara, Herta, Tingyun, Seele, Asta FX and Seele no LC My acheron doing the job here as her stats are pretty good from gear

[@mormegil84]

Hoyo has definitely noticed that more and more people are going for early Eidolons and the signature LC, so they're making them more and more broken. It's not only whales that are going for them. If you notice, E4s are usually pretty mid because they know that only whales are going there on the way to E6. Might as well make E2 and the LCs absolutely broken if a lot of people are going for them anyway. It's becoming increasingly predatory and Genshin devs are starting to do the same thing with recent characters after noticing what's happening with HSR.

[@_xadrnx_6371]

I got DanIL lightcone on his rerun, and waiting for Acheron"s rerun to get her LC

[@Iusca]

Definitely agree and I'm almost the same as you Volkin, I really went in on firefly, got her e2 with 135 pulls I think. But I'm skipping her Light Cone, I'm trying Ruan Mei since I don't have her. It would be better if I went for E1 firefly + Ruan Mei but I just love Sam/Firefly xD

[@Jojokun5235]

I play the same way in which i prefer smaller but stronger roster but i love heavily investing into supports because i love account flexibility and big numbers on the screen.

[@kyden1329]

i've been pullin the light cones for the chars i liked from the beggining xD this made my account have less 5* in general, but i can do all the content and also i enjoy the feeling of them being "completed" xD

[@1vanDrago]

I have the same mindset about heavy vertical investment in dps that I like. I only vertically invest in a support when it's actually a vertical investment for said dps, and their team as well.

[@jamin3131]

I've been very lucky winning my 50/50 on acheron, fuxuan and acheron, and got acherons and firefly's LCs winning the 75/50 both times. FF was already fine with the f2p LC but my jinglui was a little sad. hsr and wuwa making it easy to vertically invest 🎉

[@serikazero128]

I farmed for my MidFly a lot. She sits nicely at 250 base break effect and 63.3% base effect resistance. I don't want my FlyFly to get CCed :) that being said. Its a good idea to save for characters you want/life/are strong and then pull them, their weapon/light cone and maybe 1 more copy. Even as a F2P after you got your "base" covered. And as a fellow F2P, I do not think sustains are THAT HUGE of a deal everyone makes them out to be. I have yet to summon for a limited 5* sustain unit and I've been doing fine with: Natasha, Bailu, then Linx and now Gallaher (he only needs E1 to be good, E2 is very nice as well)

[@EyelessAugust]

Lost my 50/50 to yet another Clara, E4 now, and went all the way to pity yesterday and got her. Did some single pulls and got her LC at 11 pity :3 I’ll be saving for the new foxian guy and Kafka now

[@Senguh]

i only have E0S0 5 stars, but now i started to save up to get lightcones and dubes. I sadly lost a 50/50 on firefly so she will probably stay at E0S0 till her rerun. I still 12star everything anyway, even if i need to sweat abit but i enjoy trying to figure out the right team comp and rotation.

[@spursamn]

I got E1 FF in my first 10 pull after getting her E0 at soft pity, then I went soft pity again with a 10 pull, got Bronya... then got her E2 clicks later in the same 10 pull

[@BrownySam]

This video is like a breath of fresh air. Thank you Volkin for the video 🫰

[@PeytonHolland-pt9hx]

After losing five 5050s in a row and standard banner, I’ve been saying that I wanted not even gonna reset saying any five stars that I want anymore

[@RavenShugo]

Nah, hoyo always can add new debuff, or enemy, that resist ultimate damage, or having toughness bar locked, or multiplied to the point that firefly team can't break it in few turns. If I have to pick clearing full end game with having only few heroes, or having fun with big rooster to try something new, I go for later.

[@mediethkd4813]

Definitely play the way you want, never worry about "meta" in hoyo games. You like a char or play style pull for those

[@Ethan97GR]

so far i've been unlucky enough to lose 3 50/50s in a row but also lucky enough to get them early (like 40-50 wishes after) as a f2p. the game likes to troll me though. i got Gepard on Aventurine's banner and Himeko on Topaz's rerun banner. i also went for her light cone and i got it. then i got like Clara or something on Robin's banner after converting every bit of currency that you get from summoning for more summons and 2 days before the end of her banner i had enough for a multi and i got her. now i'm probably waiting for Huohuo for Kafka's team even though i was tempted to try to get Ruan Mei's light cone.

[@crazyadmax615]

I pretty much pull the characters that are strong and that I really like. And I try to get their light cones if I really really really like them. I pulled Kafka's and Acheron's light cone. And for Firefly, I saved up like 27k jades and 40 tickets and watched videos saying that her 2nd eidolon is good so I pulled until e2. I didn't get her light cone though since the Herta shop lc is already good enough.

[@ilyftyt]

As a f2p user for a year Im going to start saving after Firefly’s banner is gone so I can hope I can get her LC early and when she is gone I start saving for the fire nihility I’m not skipping another dot character

[@OmegaShanic]

Unfortunately I had a REALLY bad Eidolon pulls for Firefly. Full to 75 for a lost 50/50 then full into another 79 for the E2. Then again, I did end up lucking out for actually getting Firefly and E1 Ruan Mei, and ended up with (so far) E2S1 Firefly and upgrading E0S0 Ruan Mei to E1S1. At least for me, I took my Firefly into the DoT pure fiction (no break buffs to speak of) and easily 4k'd it on auto, even still using Gallagher over a Break Himeko and with the famously bad auto AI on the last wave. So hopefully your E2 will also fix your Pure Fiction woes and allow for easy 3*s from here on out. :) Even mechanically, with Acheron ignoring weaknesses and Firefly implanting her own, as well as absurdly strong Eidolons and Light Cones for both, the game has leaned more toward a few really good toys. You need enough brute force however to clear any "bad affixes" (follow-up favoritism or the like), and I fear E6 will be requisite once the power starts creeping again. We'll see. Thankfully, the Firefly team has a way up by replacing Gallagher or HMC with limited 5* characters, and my DotCheron with Kafka/Swan/Acheron team has several ways up through Eidolons and Light Cones. If a Black Swan rerun is soon, I'll be enjoying her E1 quite a lot.

[@Friday-p13]

Same perspective I have now since getting E2S1 Acheron and E0S1 Firefly. I was trying to get FF to at least E1 but yeah, hoyo just hates my acct with letting me lose every 50/50 on my main. Thankfully I got all necessary supports. Now focusing on relics. Hoping for jiaoqiu to be have a better kit cause he's sh*t rn and waiting for that break oriented abundance to see if she's any good

[@Doctor_Yiggles]

I also went E2S1 on Firefly and my account doesn't need Jade so she is a skip for and she'd only be a pull for waifu reasons for me at this point since I am the same I like to auto the endgame content too.

[@boo5860]

I'm saving for E6 Sunday 😊😊

[@lewisharvey7969]

i made a f2p account in 2.1 and i have luocha robin boothill ruan mei and soon will be getting huohuo and black swan. Once i get kafka my account will be really good and i havent even had it for more than 4 months.

[@Astro_Shun]

I get why you are saying this and it is correct but for me who got firefly and ruan mei in only 80 pulls all together and winning both 50/50s I do NOT think my luck is enough to also get a e1 firefly lol

[@MrYamiBakura]

Personally I didn't go on Eidolons for Firefly because I noticed you only want her E1 if you also want her E2 and well my account is pretty much decked out on the FuA side of things as well as Traditional DPS

[@slayersrequiem]

If it helps, I use my Himeko waay more than my E1 s2 Bronya lol. She's a little less useful with firefly covering fire weakness now though

[@CrizDig0]

Himeko is an amazing unit for PF whereas Firefly will cover MoC so you all settled :)

[@Ryuki_NA]

always heavily invest on DPS characters yall!!! they carry your teams!

[@kennethyoung7457]

Better to heavily invest in support units. E1S1 Robin literally make any E0S0 dps feel like a whale dps. Than you can use them with most of your characters instead of being tied to one dps all the time.

[@Ryuki_NA]

@@kennethyoung7457 DPS eidolons have mechanics tied to them that supports simply do NOT. 20% PEN isn't comparable to having another turn. Did you watch this video?

[@Sunofuhbeach]

My pull was crack got her lc and e2 under 200 pulls. Might not have anymore luck in the future banners but will see.

[@spyrothetimelord]

hyv is pretty good at making content simple enough (won't call it easy because hey some people still struggle) that you really can just pull who you want and manage to get the job done. I've always kind of hated the way "get more characters (horizontal investment) instead of copies/weapons of a single character (vertical investment)" is treated as objectively correct. It's not always better to have a bunch of characters you have to build, relatively optimize, and spend resources on. Likewise it's not necessarily the best to invest so much into one character because they cannot clear all content on their own; they usually will need a team + there are two floors/sides/etc to each game mode. I only get characters I really enjoy and even then I only get eidolons/weapons when I love them. The other nice thing is that eidolons usually... usually, are really good and like you said, change the gameplay up a bit. Thinking of Ruan Mei and Robin becoming pseudo dps characters by E6 for example, but even things like Acheron, Firefly, and Boothill's early eidolons just making rotations/building them or their teams easier is a perfect example. So if you really invest in someone, you kind of get the freedom to build them differently as well.

[@victortg95]

I’ve gotten a couple LCs for dhil and topaz, and considering getting Ruan Mei’s. LCs in hsr are really strong

[@tevallockheart]

Well i start playing since near the end of blackswan banner, the last char i pull is acheron and her LC and skipping all char after that. fortunatenly the jades i ve been saving since makes me to vouch E2S1 Firefly and a ruanmei. After i got them finally i can clear moc and pf full star. i can clear Even not with full build FF and ruanmei, they only lv 75, and not all node unlocked, because i dont have resources for lvl up trace and not have full build relic. i surprised i can clear PF because the buff is more DOT oriented, but i can clear it with E1 FF, after i cleared it, i got jades and pull and surprisingly got E2. Current banner is the most lucky pull for me i guess so far.

[@MisterHeadphones73]

My goal was to get 1 dps of each element and then get respective lc's on reruns. After Jade now, I'm only gonna pull on characters where I can also get the lc.

[@andrewcook4873]

I’ve had such bad luck trying to get relics for firefly that I wonder if there’s a special rule that says you can’t get atk%, spd and break effect spawn on a relic at the same time.

[@Xtraflossy]

Its less you changed gour mind on these things, more you got a huge roster of characters already and now you can pull eidolons amd light cones without having to plug all your holes. Same boat here. Got my cheron, firefly .. RM, and im plugging pure fiction some with Jade.

[@mikoajbaszczyszyn4568]

Firefly is best girl. She's the only character I was able to get above E0 (not counting losing the 50/50 to std characters - fucking Yanqing), second one I tried besides Acheron, though with Acheron I failed both at getting an Eidolon and her Light Cone. I had a lot of tickets saved up, and was able to gather enough Jades through the course of Firefly's banner to pull her in about 30 pulls (almost at hard pity), then I lost to Gepard at around 80 pulls, but I got a Firefly Eidolon after around 70 pulls and another after about 20, so I'm very happy I was able to get her to E2. Now I'm going to try and get her Light Cone, I'm at 0 pity but at least it's guaranteed. Fortunately I don't particularly care for the next couple characters, Jade seems fun but I don't want her, nor need her. The fox guy is whatever, and loli swordmaster has cute design, but I'm not too convinced I'd want her. I don't like Physical characters too much, they don't feel as good, and I skipped Robin who'd probably be a better teammate for her.

[@Doflaminguard]

This has always been what I do. right now, I still dont have Wind, Phys DPS

[@sophiapeters8206]

I wished for Ruan Mei and went to 82 pity, but the universe balanced out because I got Firefly 15 wishes later.

[@legendaryswordsman653]

I'm going for jiaoqui in 2.4 the foxian guy for my Acheron team. I also got E2 firefly with the light cone. I would say harmony characters well always have very high value even more so than DPS which over time fall off. I feel that ruan mei, sparkle and robin will always be op. Not sure about my plans after getting him

[@kuro9421]

yup it just make sense as long as you have already have enough unit to use but for me that quit the game at some point i still need one limited sustain i have guarantee so either huo huo or new sustain im prefer healer since i use fu xuan, gallager, bailu so i really want to bench bailu if need a healer since i don't want another 4 star sustain and currently i want just new units to use

[@tossacointoyourwitcherOriginal]

Bro found out how to play gatcha games optimally. You never go for diversity you go for characters that break game mechanics.

[@Mimicae]

I'm F2P and play since Release Day. I always only pull Husbandos (3 Waifus, because they were interesting Jingliu, Sparkle and Topaz). I pulled 2 Lightcones so far DHIL's and Boothill's. And the only Eidolon I have is Louchas E1 that happend on accident. I realized a few weeks ago, I think after Boothill, that I hate having so many characters. Well not really hate, but I dislike how I "drop" a lot of them because I play the new ones more and more, and the older the other ones are, the less i use them. I could just use them again, I know. But it just seemed so sad, because I was saving up so much for them only to not use them as frequently anymore. I will still pull for Characters that seem interesting but i also might get copies and their Lightcones, before pulling other characters (at least, if they're good) I have another Account where I only pull on the standardbanner and save up all of my gems for whenever there is a Character that really, really, really seems interesting and if I like his lightcone & Eidolons, I max him/her out completly, before repeating the steps for the next character.

[@void4597]

i did actually saved 200 pulls for firefly and her lightcone and got both and ofc lost my first 50-50 and won next

[@AristineSilvanus]

Getting Himeko for PF is going to be super good. I played Himeko + Firefly on PF and cleared it so fast!. U would also have a breeze on it since u have E2 Firefly

[@ronron6586]

I only bought 2 monthly pass and i almost got every character i want . Kafka + LC, Hou Hou, RM, Sparkle, Topaz, FX, Jingliu + LC that I don't use anymore, 2x Loucha, Acheron and now Firefly . I just need to get Dr. Ratio's LC and Aventurine (and maybe BS too) to complete my 3 teams -- FuA team, DoT team, and lastly the most OP of them all SB team . Also i need one op AoE debuffer for my KafkaXAcheron team.

[@judahdeitrich2482]

Black swan is coming next patch start saving

[@o-taco4010]

I was actually in the same spot on Pure fiction until I use Hypercarry kafka team on 2nd battle and barely did 60k. Firefly did all the heavy lifting scoring almost 40k

[@Faust_ZA]

Preach bruv for me ive gotten my dream team of Blade Loucha Ruan mei and bronya all with their weapons and im f2p without the monthly sub

[@Zer0Hour17]

MY f2p lost 50/50 on Ruan Mei...again. I have Acheron team that doesn't need her, but every other team does and I'm mad.

[@justrandompeople555]

7:00 acheron with speed boots? 🤔🤔 Weird choice

[@source324]

Lol

[@zxcentsensei.sunder]

F2P here with E2S1 Firefly and E1S1 Ruan Mei pulled under 200 warps 😊

[@rindos-mom]

I lost the 50/50 for Firefly so I'm saving for guaranteed Jiaoqiu + lightcone because he looks cute.

[@Theo18_]

I got acheron e3 and lc it could be 3 characters but i love Mei in every hoyo game so i need her e6 then i will have A REAL emanator of nihility

[@Gurenn83]

E2 Firefly feels like a waste to be honest. Sure it is strong but the extra turns is not possible every turn, instead every other turn only. Granted you win the 50/50 for that E2. If not, it would be a waste since you can just save and get the upcoming characters. Of course, this does not apply to whales and lightspenders.

[@UnbelievableLins]

FF doing 4 turns per cycle. With E2 - it's 6 turns(if you don't speed tune shit properly its 5) I don't think having E0 fox boy or E0 better Clara or even E0 Jade is better then this. We'll see about Feixiao.

[@source324]

​@@UnbelievableLinsjade is absolutely better just cuz of pure fiction same goes for the other two

[@source324]

The moc rn is just too good for firefly like it increases her performance about 40% but that's like fine she's still super good

[@tamkaznwibani43]

I am more of a collector so I only get 1 copy of characters I like but I do invest in my dps lightcones cause they just play better and are easier to build XD

[@hentikirby7142]

I have so many e6 4 star units that whenever 2-4 4 stars appear on my 10 pulls its just a big refund.

[@OathKeeper2.0]

7:34 I feel u homie, so so much😢😅

[@elCoronelCC]

it would be great if we could turn off eidolons again (even traces)

[@iamkurogane]

One year since I went all in on E2 DHIL and bro still clears easy. Totally agree with you buddy All this crap about FUA, DoT and Dual DPS is all whale bait imo. An E2S1 Acheron will most likely beat all E0S1 dual DPS comps with RM/Robin. Not to mention the ease of investment comparatively So yea power creep can go F itself because as long as I can clear I’m good

[@Fettigetz]

I think we all would go deeper into Acheron

[@jaguh9069]

DPS generally want their sig LC coz nothing else can beat it, but FF is an exception. Her LC really doesn't do much for her, the enemy delay already comes from RM and HMC. And compared to full stack S5 Aeon, the BE that its provides (Atk>BE conversion from trace) is comparable. So I'm happy with only E0 FF, truly a f2p friendly dps. Acheron tho, I went all in for E2S1 😂Coz E2 and S1 totally change her team building. Most of it was because I was super lucky winning straight 50/50 and her LC. Had to only topup once so F2P no more 🤣

[@naksu6344]

i lost 2 50/50s to yanqing, now i’m sitting here with my c0s0 firefly and waiting for her rerun

[@Hideshilee]

Before I got firefly, Seele carried my acc even now for the permanent game modes

[@procos5108]

That's disgusting. Grats on the pulls, I went 395 pulls for e2 + her lc

[@ForTheViolence]

If I can’t at least get to the 75/25 for the Lc I won’t pull the dps.

[@emmandiaz3495]

Im saving to improve my acheron team, i currently have pela, guinaifen, fuxuan. Idk who to pull though. Aventurine or Jiaoqiu D:

[@latitude990]

I would pull more Light Cones, but I simply do not win the 75/25 ever. I've lost all 3 of them, and all went to nearly hard pity. I'm in the bottom 0.1% of players LOL. One of these days I'll learn my lesson

[@alexixman722]

how i do about it is summon for a acheron and firefly team so 2.4 im saving for jiaoqi and 2.5 im saving for the break healer plus i have farmed everything for them so all i need is to have them! and in the future i will summon for a character that i want to have just cuz nothing spacal

[@GeithSalim]

seeing hok add makes me happy

[@karza2385]

I think the biggest perk firefly has is that she is very usable in pure fiction

[@dante19890]

she is good in every game mode

[@feihu4095]

0:31🤨🤨

[@mazethemercenary]

Always go heavy in supports. They're always in your team and will buff whoever you place in the team. Its more economical.

[@UnbelievableLins]

It's not the only way to play the game. Not even most efficient way. Why do you need random 5* support when you can't even use it properly?

[@mazethemercenary]

@@UnbelievableLins your saying I can't use it properly as an insult because I went heavy on it? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 . I do it because I can, feels good and is fun for me. "Hey everyone look at me, i need a trophy for not spending any money on a game i like and expect everyone to work for free for my entertainment" GTFO bozo. 🤡 Why you think there's a dupe system at all you silly sausage.

[@ArchDemonD]

Bro put the most relatable characters in the game on the thumbnail for free to play

[@MrBud85]

Volkin lives. I miss you😊

[@zengceng]

i pulled e2 firefly and i regret it. it's just absurd how strong it is and ruined the game for me

[@louemrick1609]

the struggle for harmony LC's is real.

[@TheDamienDX]

i try to get firefly early pull came out as general student ugh that boy that hurt and fail the light cone too lol

[@jeoffreyauscia6841]

I just know that my Acheron WILL be E6

[@athernandez666]

HSR f*cked me over with firefly's pulls.

[@VolkinYT]

noooo

[@MrBud85]

Volkins fault

[@guyers6247]

I understand why you go that route now, but i think its a waste to go past 1 of any toon. same with only 1 cone for anyone. I like to save as much as possible and pull for anyone i want. But i understand your side as well.