I am glad to see more manufacturers addressing the everyday cyclist and not just the racer.
@caseysmith5447 ай бұрын
Or Long Distance Tour Bike deisgns or both Mountain Bike and Road as well as basic less wide Upright or even BMX design as your only options on bikes.
@RideYearRound7 ай бұрын
I think the industry has recognized the fact that a large segment of the customer base wants a comfortable riding experience over anything else. That can be fairly subjective given everyone has different body shapes and sizes, so I'm super glad to see so many options out there.
@HistoricalWeapons7 ай бұрын
I’m personally into the “cruiser” handlebars. They are particularly useful at converting any size vintage bike (especially beaters that are essentially free) to fit your size without real mechanical work
@Ryanatboulder7 ай бұрын
As a tall rider I run into not having enough stack on nearly every OEM bike which is why I built up my own Surly so that the steeper could be run uncut. The redshift top shelf bar would be great on my road bike because as you mentioned, losing the dexterity as you age is a really thing.
@michaelmechex7 ай бұрын
It's not necessarily the aging that makes your body less flexible, it's the lack of stretching. I've seen 80 year olds get very low and aero on a time trial bike. I hate stretching as much as the next guy, but it really does wonders in keeping you feeling young
@Primifluous7 ай бұрын
@@michaelmechex Swimming and stretching, you'll stay limber foreva'
@thomashendron43567 ай бұрын
Have alt bars on all my bikes. Jones, Soma and Salsa. Like the Ritchey having more straight tube at clamp, can now use headlight and phone next to clamp
@NickMackenzieMD7 ай бұрын
I am a big fan of Alt Bars. At age 73 I replaced my stem with a RedShift +30 degree stem and Surly Moloko Bars when I converted my Domane to a gravel bike with 700x40mm wheels/tires. Now, after thousands of miles I really appreciate how it improved my control on all surfaces. I like being able to have a good grip on the bar at all times and haven't been bounced off yet.
@aleksleonardson60587 ай бұрын
The Moloko bars changed my life
@michaelhayward75727 ай бұрын
Tried everything from 25 to 45 degrees backsweep inc Mary bars, Mike bars, OG bars, Jones copies, and have settled comfortably on Albatross type bars - transformed my hand/wrist comfort with the added bonus of multiple hand positions. And imo, they look cool as...
@thewintersteiner7 ай бұрын
I love all the new options. I just bought a kitchen sink with the loop, and I’m excited for some extra bar space and more comfortable grips and hand position options. Thanks for sharing these
@lewrenchjeardeau13707 ай бұрын
The more the better! It's great to see the option to tune one's bike to more specific needs. Also it looks like that redshift bar gives space to mount other accessories in the center, even with a bag...
@BrianMax7 ай бұрын
The standard drop bars that came on my gravel bike aggravated an old injury in my shoulder. I'm running Surly Moloko bars now and I really appreciate the wider grip and room for lights, cell phone, water bottle holder and bike computer mount.
@parisrose817317 күн бұрын
I use some Ritchie coyotes with some old school barend bullhorns stuck in the middle on the bends, like little aero bars. They're covered in foam grips and then bartaped over. Best combo Ive ever had. Good video, on topic.
@Windingify4 ай бұрын
I love these "new" alt-style bars. They solve a lot of issues for an older dude who adheres to Grant Petersen´s view of what bikes are for most people. I got the Mothbar last year and have never looked back.
@adamwilkinson66797 ай бұрын
I got my first bike (as an adult) about 15 years ago and bought alt bars to solve exactly the problem you're describing...raising up the bars to make it more comfortable!! Alt bars all the way. Frames are pretty evolved, so I think bars kinda have to be super modular.
@alextrieger52076 ай бұрын
just installed this bar 2.75 due to age ,back issues ,loss of flexibility. GAME CHANGER!!! much more comfort and bar bag is mounted more levelly as well.. glad i did it
@cattalkbmx7 ай бұрын
Hope you're feeling better by the time you read this. Hopefully this trend continues to parts outside of bars. Love your channel and content, thanks Russ!
@BenjaminSmith27 ай бұрын
A lot of these bars/stems seem to try to solve an issue with bicycle frame design for the non-racing consumer. Especially on road and gravel race bikes, there is too much reach and not enough stack for a given frame. So for people with less flexibility, or longer legs and shorter torsos, it's a struggle to get a good fit.
@Fetherko7 ай бұрын
& I have short legs and need more reach.
@rogeramu7 ай бұрын
Just went from straight MTB bars to a BBB Multibar ("butterfly"). Being able to move the hands around and getting small changes to the sitting position is great. As with specialized bikes, there are bars for specific purposes. But for longer and everyday rides, something like the "alt bars" seem better. Comfort on a bike is rather important.
@RogerMcGuiremusic7 ай бұрын
I was literally just coming on here to suggest "butterfly bars" to Russ. Not so popular in the USA but now that you're in Europe you should give them a go. I use them too. They're really excellent for long rides.
@davidroberts79967 ай бұрын
Fan! Get well soon!
@ivanjednobiegowiec76567 ай бұрын
Thing I really would like to see is roughly speaking classic drop handlebar, without massive flare, but with very small reach and drop. Sub 60/sub 95mm. Very handy (no pun intended) for people with small hands like me. And with good range of sizes, like 38cm to 46cm...
@mechanicaldavid48277 ай бұрын
Velo Orange offers modern drops that fit those requirements.
@ivanjednobiegowiec76567 ай бұрын
@@mechanicaldavid4827 hmmm... Unless I'm fundamentally missing something, can only see Nouveau Randonneur that is not exactly what I'm talking about with 85mm reach and 128mm drop...
@Schradermusic6 ай бұрын
Specialized Short Reach
@ivanjednobiegowiec76566 ай бұрын
@@Schradermusic Cheers! Will have a looksie. Possibly not... 125mm drop is not exactly sub 95mm 😖
@alexk38067 ай бұрын
It's great to see different bars for different uses.
@pierrehenri22977 ай бұрын
Big fan! I have installed the Cinelli double trouble ‘alt’ bar on my commuting bike after a fall- straight bar were putting too much pressure on my wrist- the double trouble looks like a jones bar and has so many places for your hands that it has sorted the problem with my wrist. They also look really good and have plenty of places for bells lights etc..- love them i will check out the Ritchey buzzard for my gravel bike seems like a good idea to swap curly for ‘alt’. Thanks for the video!! 🤘🏼
@ottofajen7150Ай бұрын
So many issues were created for fit and handlebars with the change from threaded to threadless forks. Quill stem adapters on old-style threaded forks pretty much eliminate those issues.
@sewv12212 ай бұрын
As someone who struggles with a pinched nerve that makes my hands go numb, and alt bar has made a huge difference in my ability to ride making it possible to bike commute to work.
@alexk38067 ай бұрын
Get well soon dude
@ridehardlivehappy7 ай бұрын
I love all bars. I personally run the FSA metropolis on my commuter. Great shape. Beautiful finish.
@Joshua-jj4xn7 ай бұрын
Alt*
@dawnmahrt7 ай бұрын
Hope you feel better soon, Russ!
@BackyardArcher6 ай бұрын
I run a Surly Moloko and it has transformed my riding. Alt bars for the win!
@johnzee6917 ай бұрын
totally into the swept back bars. have converted most of the stable to them as they are very comfortable on flat ground especially if your near the beach. still have some mtb's with straight straight bars, they get ridden on trails. swept back don't work so well on trails because if you stand up off the saddle the bars hit my knees.
@glen35097 ай бұрын
I'm still using a pair of "old school" 640mm 7075 aluminum Titec H👹llbent risers from 2009🤘🤘
@Donovangulya7 ай бұрын
Are they good? I ride a lot of bike paths but how about a little bit of mountain bike rambling
@mechanicaldavid48277 ай бұрын
Big fan of Alt bars, from when the FSA Metropolis bar launched to Jones Loop style Bars- Really enjoying a Surly Corner Bar on my heavy duty trail bike! Best part - I get to offer alt bars to customers to help their basic MTB rigs branch out to fit for all day rides!
@mechanicaldavid48277 ай бұрын
PS just got in a shipment of Alt bars from Merry Sales*, talking about all of which led my customer to notice we had ONE last pair of Surly Truck Stops in their size - which they bought🙌. (*to Jim and Co. - my compliments on the Ahearne Uprising Bar - really nice production quality! - we picked one for a custom build and ordered two more - so nice I might have to buy one myself!)
@oldschoolmedia7 ай бұрын
I have a Condor 2 on my road bike, it has a carbon fork and came with just enough steerer exposed to mount the stem with 1 spacer. The Condor got the bars up where I want them but its hard to even mount a light on that thing due to the shape, let alone a bag. Definitely gonna be getting the Redshift bar for it, will solve a lot of problems.
@jimbrowne69706 ай бұрын
I have a Specialized Creo Turbo and have just fitted the Redshift Kitchen Sink bars and love them, so comfortable and offer so much more than the standard bars.
@tiaalto17 ай бұрын
About using a bar like the Kyote to replace drop bars - I replaced the drop bars in my 1st gen Kona Rove with a Kyote. It was a cheap and cheerful upgrade with the bars, some Tiagra flatbar levers and a Gx 10 speed shifter (I run 1X) setting me back around 100€. The standard 90 mil stem was spot on fit wise. One caveat though, the bike's low speed handling got a bit weird due to the super wide bar mated with a longish stem. Basically any major handlebar turn creates a huge arc of movement at the grips. My solution for it is switching to a hardtail frame.
@30bones7 ай бұрын
I’ve had Persuader and now Kyote on my touring bike the past couple seasons and really like them. The buzzard is promising to get a bit more rise if needed. 😎
@Steven-gf1ns5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the previous recommendation of the Ritchey Flared gravel bars. Functional and Comfortable. Brilliant
@MrJhamil057 ай бұрын
I have been using the Jones H-bar Loop on my commuter/town bike for 5 years. I like them, I have limited funds to try other bars but I think these type of bars give bikers a lot of choices
@scottrok137 ай бұрын
Variety is the spice of life (and helps individualize the ride)🎉
@aaronedgeart7 ай бұрын
I dig the RedShift one, seems very helpful if A.) you outgrow/outlive your earlier fit spec or B.) you purchase a used bike with a cut stearer tube and need a bit more stack.
@ottofajen7150Ай бұрын
I like the basic touring bar like Albatross or North Road on an old MTB. Comfortable and versatile for light trail and some road.
@anniebikes70027 ай бұрын
I like the movement because it solves problems. I put the Kyote bar on my mountain bike 2 years ago, cutting 1" off each end and never looked back. Better hand position yet still good handling.
@CBG916 ай бұрын
I have a pair of veto orange crazy bars and love them! The bull horns are really helpful on long stretches to switch up positions.
@elialexander-tanner57847 ай бұрын
I might like some of these alt mtb bars. I like options and always am happy to see more of them.
@Apodictic17 ай бұрын
Love my Jones bar.
@Bubbleb24 ай бұрын
I am using the Redshift bar to do a Mountain Bike to Gravel Bike conversion, another usage. Especially, with a bike with a long top tube and reach.
@rbranch2347 ай бұрын
Came across the Crust’s Uncle Ron’s Ortho bar a couple of years ago and it ended my search for the bar that fits my needs. Like it a lot and haven’t thought of changing since.
@guardian_ironworks7 ай бұрын
I just bought the topshelfs. I know they look odd, but it might be just what I'm looking for. I love alt bars. I have VO crazy bars on my Krampus, and super swept back cruiser bars on my fat bike.
@juliapoelstra36247 ай бұрын
I think they look neat
@guardian_ironworks7 ай бұрын
@@juliapoelstra3624 I got them because I love my Soma condors but preferred the look of flat top.
@winterwatson64374 ай бұрын
i run bullhorns as an urban rider because i like a narrow width, but even still i have a full stack of spacers and a tall, slack stem. if nothing else, getting more upright makes me feel so much more aware of my surroundings
@WolfzPain7 ай бұрын
Surly corner bar is an interesting one if you need a good back sweep and additional hand positions
@soarinsuzi72067 ай бұрын
I have standard drops, but I've been dying to try an Alt bar. My brother loves the Jones H-Bar
@jacobatherton83397 ай бұрын
I love my Soma Condor 2 bars. I put them on a SSCX bike with a full carbon fork, so to get the amount of rise I like the choice was a drop bar with rise or a "happy" stem. I do like the look of the redshift bars!
@ncbassmix7 ай бұрын
I love alt bars. The more the merrier. I currently run the Koga Denham bars on a 1992 Rockhopper and absolutely love them.
@Frostbiker7 ай бұрын
Where do you install your levers? I used to run inner bar ends and found that 95% of the time my hands were on them, which gave me poor access to the brake levers. I wish bullhorn bars were more popular, because they would be my first choice, with levers on the horns, that is.
@30bones7 ай бұрын
I have a pair of these for sale. One of the worst bars I’ve ever tried next to Jones
@marcbradford94557 ай бұрын
I very much enjoy my Surly Moloko bar, really enjoy the additional hand positions it offers, there are several effectively wide places that are very comfortable to rest my hands if they get sore, and it's made riding much nicer.
@piotrbykowski43906 ай бұрын
Most bikes have too low front enf for me, so I greatly appreciate those options!
@Joshuakoffmansculpture7 ай бұрын
I’m a fan. I have several bikes (used and hodge-podged together) spanning a variety of functions. It’s great to find options out there to explore for and comfort. Thanks Russ!
@slantedorbit7 ай бұрын
As mtbers age, more will seek out Kyote style bars, where sweep is introduced without affecting reach or width/leverage. I got some Whisky Sully bars, same principle, they are awesome. Neutral from shoulders on down. How wider bars should be for people without hyper-square Nordic shoulders.
@impaledface76947 ай бұрын
I like seeing new bar options. Gives nice options to customize different bikes and find out what you like too. Don't run any right now besides a vintage scott at-4, not really comfort focused but a fun bar anyways.
@markfletcher46057 ай бұрын
Alt bars are awesome. I am currently using a highly modified Mokito bar, but will eventually have a custom-made bar made that allows for an even more aero front position as well as the ability to mount a bag mount to the front as well as handle the dynamo light which requires an open bar end for mounting.
@timevans91957 ай бұрын
I’m a big fan, particularly for old low-stack mtb conversions, I have On One Mike’s and Raleigh North Road which both have a lot of sweep and reasonable width for running a basket or front load. However there are some old gems as well…my 1988 Hardrock has a pair of club roost ‘go-fast’ downhill bars which put your wrists in a really comfy position for a confident ride (however I’ve broken the unwritten law and have put some bar-ends on them to make cruising and climbing more comfortable!)
@kenshinjenna7 ай бұрын
I like the new handlebar options. I'm interested in the Swiss Army Bike, and the handlebars that give more grips, make more room for lights, HUDs, bells, and shtuff are great!
@compasteedee7 ай бұрын
I've found alt bars open up all sorts of new worlds for bikes in really unexpected ways. I spent a lot of time switching out flat bars and drop bars for cruiser bars and BMX bars. I think it is great there are so many options out there now. Anyone who likes Frankenbikes, I'm sure, isn't complaining!
@TimothyCannock2 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see examples of these alt-bars fitted to bikes
@automat87 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@davetbassbos7 ай бұрын
They were weird in the 90s, but it was more modular, Yesterday I actually saw a guy with the full 90s add ons, angled bar ends and a full aerobar attachment with the forearm rests.
@daniellarson30687 ай бұрын
I bought a used 90s bike with butterfly bars. I kind of like them.
@pavelg49907 ай бұрын
Redshift Topshelf roast coming And I say it as a fan of the Kitchensink (have two).
@JohnPilling257 ай бұрын
Very informative Russ. I use the Surly corner bar. I too am getting older and riding slammed stems has me leaning over too far; I want the bars higher for more comfort, so I've been investing in forks with long steerer tubes that let me raise up the stem; but as you said in a previous video it's the lack of stack on the frame that's the real problem to solve.
@RenAigu7 ай бұрын
The top shelf bar is interesting to me, for the extra "shelf storage" for bar mounted gadgets. I am contemplating converting my flat bar touring bike with a drop bar, because I feel like I need to change hand positions a bit more, but never did because I feel like I might need more room for bar mounted bits. I'd use the lower bit for my handlebar bag, and the top bit for bell, phone, camera, lights, bike computer. No manufacturer of mounts seems to supply solutions for people who want to mount a phone and a GPS unit, which I need for doing courier work via an app and if I want to recoed my rides with a GPS unit as well. But with this there seems to be ample room to fit two out front mounts, and is risen high enough so you can even flip one of those mounts to face towards the back.
@bennettturk32066 ай бұрын
It think its great that there is innovation going into comfort and ergonomics.
@ONEly-uc4et6 ай бұрын
Old school here: used nitto mustache on my XO for decades. A great mix of functionality.
@TheUncleRuckus6 ай бұрын
The more options the better someones riding experience can be, I'm all for it.
@-MacCat-7 ай бұрын
They can be useful. I have a few that I swap around depending on various factors. Take care Russ.
@markowsley49547 ай бұрын
That redshift drop bar would be useful to mount clip on aero bars easily. Less need for huge amount of spacers to get the comfortable rise I like.
@igorgetsin36467 ай бұрын
I think this is a good idea since bike fit and preference is personal and this is a relatively inexpensive approach to adjusting fit, unless you have internal cable routing
@BrentZahradnik7 ай бұрын
I love all the weird and wild bars. Almost makes it hard to choose there are so many variations.
@DAMN551177 ай бұрын
love the alt bars!
@rbttrail7 ай бұрын
I have been an alt bar enjoyer for the past decade or so now, my wrist like the sweep more and I have never been super into drops so ideal for me.
@niceup11777 ай бұрын
love my SYCIP x NITTO JJJ bar. i did have to change my 90mm stem for a 110mm one thos to make up for the lost reach.
@childofeternity3 ай бұрын
Definitiely down with the alt bars. I ordered the Redshift topshelf yesterday as it goes (I hear Redshift are making a bag especially for it). If I had a flatbar bike I'd definitely buy one of the alt bars, too.
@KingVonMudder7 ай бұрын
Thanks, Russ! I was sold on the Soma Condor 2 handlebar (only 50mm rise) for 1 of 10 bikes... I might need the 70mm rise version of the Redshift Top Shelf bars for another bike! Haha... The benefits of being 6ft barefoot and all leg, with 5'9" wingspan lol.
@cneubert287 ай бұрын
I have the Surly corner bars on my hard tail. Comfy for cruising
@ItsTheAOK7 ай бұрын
I want to try the one you had in the thumbnail - curly bars with swept flat bar 'bullhorns' I love my curlies in the city but think that extra hand position for very upright would be great to have too
@MrRay6457 ай бұрын
Like the options and bike parts designed for fit/comfort vs weigh and how super aero they are is a nice for sure , some of the prices and claims are comical but still very nice to have. Really liking those Redshift bars but do wish Ritchey came out with them... $50 would be an easier experiment than $150. FYI for large bags on the Redshift bars, using a cheap accessory bar and clamps off the stem bar aiming downward and strapping the bag to their top/cross bar would be very solid. Thinking of trying them on my Mason ISO, I am tall with more leg than average so I always get more saddle to bar drop than others. *My heavy duty trail MTB looks more like an XC position, my gravel bike fits more like a road race bike, my ISO has saddle to bar drop more like a "normal" gravel bike vs upright like you expect on a borderline mountain bike / gravel bike blend. Love having options other than weird looking super riser stems and extra long steerers.
@putrid_swamp_juice7 ай бұрын
The redshift topshelf would be even better if there was space for a bag on the lower part. Then you could mount lights, gps etc on the top part.
@jeffreyrule81437 ай бұрын
Thanks Russ.
@billydeewilliams89097 ай бұрын
I love my gravel bike, but I do not like drop bars. My gravel bike came stock with a drop bar, and I was very pleased that Curve offered the Remlaw, a flat bar for drop bar bikes. It's been a very excellent bar for the year or so I've had it, even though I don't ride the gravel bike as much anymore since I've built up my rigid MTB. I'm also pretty interested to try at some point the Koga Denham bar, which I actually have in my parts bin, but the extreme backsweep makes it a difficult match for any of my existing bikes.
@kookamunga24586 ай бұрын
I like experimenting with different bars as long as I'm riding in an upright position and the feel is fatiqueless and ergonomic I have one like that Richie , a flat bar with handlebar ends turned up and two there handlebars which I don't know the names of on each of my several bikes Each handlebar is a different feel and thet are all safe and it's good to mix things up .
@nelsonvh30336 ай бұрын
Im using a VO-crazy bar on my long range tourer….great to have a few more hand-positions if you spent 8-10 hours in the saddle
@fenderbenderspecial7 ай бұрын
I've been tempted to get some alt mtb bars with some more rise and backsweep. My wrists get a bit sore but I like the wide bars on technical trails.
@GravelHerault7 ай бұрын
They will sell these like hot cakes. The slammed stem trend has done so much harm, it's more than time to have alternatives for normal people.
@crooky3407 ай бұрын
Marrant de te croiser ici ! :D Ma meilleur source d'inspi pour les balades autour de la maison
@GravelHerault7 ай бұрын
@@crooky340 haha trop bien ❤️
@CEMonkey7 ай бұрын
It’s funny how almost all modern gravel bike marketing photos show the bike with a slammed stem and zero spacers because it looks so cool, then you see the bike that is actually sold in the store and it has like 40mm of spacers under the stem.
@madtownangler7 ай бұрын
I think that Ritchey is going out of business now
@rosetastone157 ай бұрын
To each their own. I'm not a fan of a lot of these alt bars. I've tried a few of them and I always end up going back to the "traditional" style. For instance, I bought the corner bars because it checked everything I wanted to do and achieve. On paper it made perfect sense, but it just didn't feel right. It mimicks drops/curly bar but at least for me, it did't and couldn't replace the actual feel of a traditional drops/curly that I wanted. It works for others and I think that's great if it does. It offers more alternatives as the label suggests. So again, I'm not a fan but I'll never knock it because it might work for others.
@frazergoodwin49457 ай бұрын
I like the look of the Redshift - it looks like it has both the rise and also having plenty of level bar "real estate" for lights, compute mounts, cameras, etc. etc.
@TRIBBSTER2015Ай бұрын
Same thought here too. I’m curious if it’s got room for my second set of brake levers though as my current drop bars have both shifter and top bar brakes
@vaquerosupreme31897 ай бұрын
The other trend is the extra wide bars. I find that I’m most comfortable with bar widths less than 60 cm, even for my rigid mtb.
@WilliamKerry797 ай бұрын
I’m personally an alt bar evangelist, that said, I’m a mountain bike guy by history. Recently converted to bicycle commuting and came into alt bars via needing more space. Surly Moloko bars were my draw in, Jones was the 2nd place option I didn’t jump on. Now, I kinda wanna go full drop bar, but haven’t committed yet. We’ll see. Now, I’m curious on your watch collection. Seen a couple of different watches on your wrist over the last while and I’m a full on watch nerd. Whatcha got and whatcha wearing? Side bar complete
@mattvanderwalt62207 ай бұрын
Recon the redshift bars could make sense on retro 26" mtb frames.
@tobymcnicol9227 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@glennpettersson90027 ай бұрын
Bars are a great way to get a good fit and build transport rather than recreational vehicles. I have 9" rise BMX bars that i can sling a good sized bag off.
@Hugo_Rocker7 ай бұрын
The Ritchey bar looks like an extreme version of the Nitto Nordeast handlebar, which I first experienced in Europe. I like them
@Fetherko7 ай бұрын
I pur The Nitto Northeast handlebars on my 26er. I could not be happier.
@buntbar24386 ай бұрын
I love those!
@Colorcrayons7 ай бұрын
The more funky bars, the better. For example, I recently bought a MTB, but want to sit more upright like on an Omafiets. I grew up riding BMX, and despite being 50 now, I would like to be able to jump a curb or two while still doing my comfy cruiser ride. That's a pretty specific ask, yet, with the right handlebar whose rise and sweep are accomodating, its not outside of the realm of possibility. So bring on the weird bars. Normalize them.
@warwicksworkshop95117 ай бұрын
If nothing else it's a 'fun' space. I don't think we've reached 'peak handlebar' - especially considering that the swing toward bikepacking or adventure cycling genres appears to be populated by people reaching to ride further and challenge themselves yet still have a life. For the people (like me!) the goal is more about comfort and recovery rather than outright speed.
@thomasanderson95457 ай бұрын
Soma Sparrow on my Trek Multitrack 750, love it
@bchearne7 ай бұрын
I definitely think the standard mtb bars are a little uncomfortable. Wrist position can be compromised on wide bars that have straighter to the side grips