The Nikola Jokic MVP Controversy

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3 ай бұрын

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@ralph.aguinaldomd
@ralph.aguinaldomd 3 ай бұрын
Jokic is basically an unathletic, bigger and smarter version of Lebron. He's the best in the world and so many people are not giving him respect.
@d3va383
@d3va383 3 ай бұрын
Larry Bird with better offense and worse defense. He’s also a worse defender than Lebron obviously
@josemacias5709
@josemacias5709 3 ай бұрын
Lebron?? Don’t diss jokic like that
@Jtformvp
@Jtformvp 3 ай бұрын
@@josemacias5709Jokic glaze is crazy
@E4MB
@E4MB 3 ай бұрын
@@josemacias5709cornball, have someone say you play like lebron and yo lame azz would be cheesing from ear to ear 😂
@lukakaps9548
@lukakaps9548 3 ай бұрын
​@@josemacias5709 think about LeBron what you want, but with what he has been doing since 03 he is undoubtedly one of the greatest players of all time, I got him at 2, if you got him lower than 2 you don't know anything. His peak was significantly better than jokers.
@rimimimimimimimim4170
@rimimimimimimimim4170 2 ай бұрын
Jokic should be a 4x MVP really. The best player in the world by far since 2020-2021 and I do think he is one of the best ever at this point.
@SuperJoobers
@SuperJoobers 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Relbl
@Relbl 3 ай бұрын
SGA is a PG averaging 4 fewer assists per game than Jokic... make that make sense
@calebadamu
@calebadamu 3 ай бұрын
SGA is a PG averaging more blocks than Jokic, make it make sense
@thecaptain9212
@thecaptain9212 3 ай бұрын
Positions don’t matter anymore bro this isn’t the 70s
@IcePhoen1x694
@IcePhoen1x694 3 ай бұрын
And leading the league in steals. Your point doesn't stand much. I think jokic should get mvp, but it is very close.
@golddragon937431
@golddragon937431 3 ай бұрын
​@@IcePhoen1x6944 assists>2 steals I'd rather a guaranteed 8 points at least then 2 more possessions
@DunningKrugerJnr
@DunningKrugerJnr 3 ай бұрын
Easy…Joker is undervalued because of relentless xenophobic anti-Euro coverage
@baffourappiah3853
@baffourappiah3853 3 ай бұрын
There is no controversy about it, Jokic is the only player to be in top five in total points, assists and rebounds. (I said TOTAL). He leads the league in PER, Box plus minus(2nd all time this season), Offensive Box plus minus, Win Shares, Offensive Win shares, VORP and Player Impact Estimate as well as several others. Shai has truly surpassed expectations, but teams legit gameplan for Jokic and he's asked to do more. I'm okay with Shai winning if Thunder keep the first seed by the end of the season. Luka has amazing stats unfortunately his individual greatness does not translate to team success. Giannis is honestly the sleeper candidate but Nuggets will probably have a far better record. So Jokic is the best candidate.
@SilverSkitterscuttle
@SilverSkitterscuttle 3 ай бұрын
I agree Joker is now #1. But the video confused the poll which asked who WILL win the MVP, seemed to conflate that with who they think deserves it-very different things. I would not use raw stats at all like points, assists rebounds...And am unusual in being a purist in saying that a TEAM'S success should not figure into MVP. Unless something really unusual is shown that they choke or play a game at the *expense* of teammates: MVP should measure who adds the most value, don't care if his teammates are preschoolers! All the advanced stats you cite ARE the best reason for Joker being deserving! But I wonder if you know more than me about them & can explain a couple of things, or have an opinion...WHY does Joker get significantly more credit in VORP than his Win Shares would imply? Compare say the best year of Shaq in Win Shares to Joker-same position-the latter gets MUCH more credit-his best VORP is 10% higher than Shaq's: even though Shaq has a BIGGER advantage than that in Win Shares (due to many more minutes). Do you believe that the scoring environment or position has changed that much that it is Fully Justified? Also, where do you find the Player Impact Stat? It is not on basketball-reference.com, & any info on it is welcome. Thank you!
@KnoxWheelerJr
@KnoxWheelerJr 2 ай бұрын
​@@SilverSkitterscuttle I think it's like the NBA's trademarked all-in-one stat or something, you'll only find it on the league website.
@marceloasensiofilho3833
@marceloasensiofilho3833 3 ай бұрын
People putting SGA above Joker for MVP is not a thing I can agree. Jokic is more efficient, higher basketball IQ and is at his peak, SGA however is a guy who will evolve some more and become MVP
@braedenwineberg8868
@braedenwineberg8868 3 ай бұрын
In no world would it make sense for SGA to win a MVP before Luka
@Kobean24
@Kobean24 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@lukakaps9548
@lukakaps9548 3 ай бұрын
If Jokic was out, I would probably give it to Luka or Giannis before SGA but I think the argument for SGA over Luka is Team success and the big one is defense. Shai is league leader in steals and Luka is at best a cone. Sometimes his defense feels like he isn't even on the Court.
@IcePhoen1x694
@IcePhoen1x694 3 ай бұрын
Why not? They have the same record, SGA is leading in steals and leading OKC to a tie with the reigning champs. I would still give to jokic, but it is a close matchup.
@ronaldomessi7055
@ronaldomessi7055 2 ай бұрын
​@@lukakaps9548 😂😂 cone is accurate. Luka is still top 10 in steals because that's how good he is at reading plays. Jason Kidd gives him to much respect and authority. He needs to force him to play off ball sometimes and to show up on the defense.
@wyotriumphrider
@wyotriumphrider 3 ай бұрын
People twist themselves into pretzels trying not to award the MVP to the actual MVP. They succeeded last year, and may succeed again this year. Jokic doesn't have a shit to give for regular season MVP, so I can't care anymore.
@gorantomic7150
@gorantomic7150 3 ай бұрын
It's a nuisance in his quest for rings🤷
@Mouchoo
@Mouchoo 2 ай бұрын
@@gorantomic7150 it's not. that's the whole point '-'
@MrBubblecake
@MrBubblecake 2 ай бұрын
Embiid literally deserved it last season, only racist white men disagreed
@michaelbuto305
@michaelbuto305 2 ай бұрын
@@Mouchoo The Whole point is the fact NBA caterings to Racist Kendrick Perkins. Why NBA got so fewer in vote lately ? Because Racism like Kendrick Said. Catering to douche leads to Flop Fiesta with mental Gymnastics.
@ivanpetrusic5733
@ivanpetrusic5733 3 ай бұрын
Why people say Joker is unathletic? Because he doesn't jump so high? Guy literally runs and wrestles on the court for around 40min per game. What means athletic in Murica?
@LUCKIPUP
@LUCKIPUP 3 ай бұрын
i don’t understand it either as an american, to be able to run all game and constantly be averaging a triple double like that, at that weight? You have to be an athlete to do that regardless what people think.
@write-only
@write-only 2 ай бұрын
In America looks are more important.
@SidewayzEloy
@SidewayzEloy 3 ай бұрын
Jokic gonna go down as top 5 easily
@_will795
@_will795 3 ай бұрын
What would your top 5 look like then???
@offbrandcheese
@offbrandcheese 3 ай бұрын
bros top five 1: my glorious king wemby 2: sga 3: jokic 4: lebron 🙄 5: giannis
@lukakaps9548
@lukakaps9548 3 ай бұрын
He probably could. But he probably won't.
@PineappleSquuid
@PineappleSquuid 3 ай бұрын
@@offbrandcheesecalling him your glorious king in his rookie season is crazy 😭 hope he becomes glorious though
@ragescript8125
@ragescript8125 3 ай бұрын
Lets see if they repeat first
@more2lifeworldwide921
@more2lifeworldwide921 3 ай бұрын
Hearing Jokic say "No Homo" completed my life journey. 😂👍🏾 See you next life.
@emmanuelmondesir8677
@emmanuelmondesir8677 3 ай бұрын
Controversy? He’s the best player in the league 🤷🏿‍♂️
@Jtformvp
@Jtformvp 3 ай бұрын
Mid
@CorruptOutcast
@CorruptOutcast 3 ай бұрын
​@@Jtformvp Delusional.
@afteritsallsaidanddoneisti9285
@afteritsallsaidanddoneisti9285 2 ай бұрын
Luka???
@Soosss
@Soosss 2 ай бұрын
@@afteritsallsaidanddoneisti9285Luka 5/26 vs the spurs 🔥
@dionysise5008
@dionysise5008 3 ай бұрын
Love SGA but he has years to grow. Joker is the MVP and I hope voters don't mess up
@invictatewahedo8595
@invictatewahedo8595 3 ай бұрын
How? OKC wasn’t even supposed to be in the playoffs this year. Guess what they are 1st in the west.
@dontAtMe69420
@dontAtMe69420 3 ай бұрын
@@invictatewahedo8595 yeah and they didnt even make the playoffs last year with SGA putting up slightly worse stats. Guess what, Chet is the real difference maker, not SGA.
@aggghgaabk
@aggghgaabk 3 ай бұрын
@@dontAtMe69420this is the single dumbest comment I’ve seen in a minute…. By giving Shai a piece they grew and it helped Shai grow… plus Shai is the only reason they were a play in team last year. He made a lot of improvement in his defense and is way more efficient
@dontAtMe69420
@dontAtMe69420 3 ай бұрын
@@aggghgaabk A minute is only 60 seconds. So not too bad, I suppose. But no. Hes only slight better in efficiency, ast, rbs and defense. Which is exactly what I said. Last year he had slightly worse stats.
@guts7518
@guts7518 3 ай бұрын
fr they robbed jokic last year by giving it to embiid... and jokic is a playoff player... people dont understand that lmao... luka fails in the playoffs... sga hasnt played in a playoff yet..
@kayo33333
@kayo33333 3 ай бұрын
The Joker is the MVP!!! However, just like last year - the media would rather see somebody else have it... At this point - i would be more surprised the media give it to jokic then ja morant...
@davebuilds7261
@davebuilds7261 3 ай бұрын
Nah I’d win mvp
@ididntaskverified3663
@ididntaskverified3663 3 ай бұрын
34.4, 9,9.7 are Lukas stats top tier
@alonso21100
@alonso21100 3 ай бұрын
But it don't reach the decimal on other stat than scoring ,that's why Luka is not on that top.
@SwordFighter1417
@SwordFighter1417 3 ай бұрын
@@alonso21100 34.4 pts, 9.1 rebounds, 9,8 assists (more than jokic)
@Kobean24
@Kobean24 3 ай бұрын
@@alonso21100are you ok bro😂 luka is averaging almost a 30 point triple double
@JaKingScomez
@JaKingScomez 3 ай бұрын
@@alonso21100what? It’s literally better then what Sga has been putting up
@theplug193
@theplug193 3 ай бұрын
Stats aren't everything lmao if that was the case sabonis would be top 5
@rorank
@rorank 3 ай бұрын
Your transition and presentation of the ad sponsor was really great man.
@MightyBiffer
@MightyBiffer 3 ай бұрын
What ad?
@collinalvarado1462
@collinalvarado1462 2 ай бұрын
That was the hardest ad transition I have witnessed in my many years as a KZbin goblin. I paused my TV and opened this on my phone to let you know that I'm playing the ad all the way through.
@kalebhanger23
@kalebhanger23 3 ай бұрын
Bro I have binged every single one of your videos you deserve way more subs. Keep it up
@jrew1261
@jrew1261 3 ай бұрын
this right here is my modern jam
@cartervandyke6680
@cartervandyke6680 2 ай бұрын
How does this guy only have 23k subs??
@ppcruddd6750
@ppcruddd6750 3 ай бұрын
my favourite ball youtuber. every time u upload i get hyped. keep it up man😊
@LLPOF
@LLPOF 3 ай бұрын
Just give Jokic his MVP and everybody shut up.
@J-Hue
@J-Hue 2 ай бұрын
Y'all would love that. Nobody evaluate the detauls, just guve it to Jokic every season.
@LLPOF
@LLPOF 2 ай бұрын
@@J-HueNo one said every season. Just the seasons he's the best player in. Not really been a credible debate the last 4 years.
@Deathstroke24120
@Deathstroke24120 2 ай бұрын
Kudos to you for having such a great sponsor, when everyone is sponsored by sports betting company who create addiction and do nothing but steal your money (cause in Casino, the House always win). So tired of KZbinrs sponsored by them man... I feel like sports bet is a big disease in sports community, the biggest haters are often people who happened to have lost some bets. Great that you are better than those KZbinrs ❤
@lolno6975
@lolno6975 2 ай бұрын
Hot take: if Jokic won the 3 mvps in a row, he would be top 20 right now.
@chuchuchuchia
@chuchuchuchia 2 ай бұрын
Easily
@ididntaskverified3663
@ididntaskverified3663 3 ай бұрын
Why is sga second when Luka has way better stats
@enamuossuo
@enamuossuo 3 ай бұрын
Better team results
@cheesehead9555
@cheesehead9555 3 ай бұрын
And arguably much better defense
@leeswift7883
@leeswift7883 3 ай бұрын
League leader in steals and fighting for #1 in the West
@camobeasto6909
@camobeasto6909 3 ай бұрын
It’s not just about stats 🤓
@emmanuelmondesir8677
@emmanuelmondesir8677 3 ай бұрын
Luka team is barely above the play-ins while SGA has no business being this good when they are so young.
@glovs4188
@glovs4188 3 ай бұрын
Everyone that thinks luka deserves mvp never played basketball and only plays 2k or lebron stans. They think pts, rebs and assists is everything about basketball.
@cultok
@cultok 3 ай бұрын
hes averaging 34 9 and 9
@OMG-si3wn
@OMG-si3wn 3 ай бұрын
@@cultokthats the issue
@hogrider5059
@hogrider5059 2 ай бұрын
@@cultokHaving top tier stats and still a Play-In merchant… 😂
@cultok
@cultok 2 ай бұрын
@@hogrider5059 that should speak on how ass the mavs have been for the season
@diegocastillo3631
@diegocastillo3631 3 ай бұрын
Nah bro, u made him dirty with that thumbnail, he looking like my dad
@ModernTwoThree
@ModernTwoThree 3 ай бұрын
Respect ur dad bro
@Nolan-xr8tq
@Nolan-xr8tq 2 ай бұрын
4:58 I get a bag is a bag but ain’t no way we still accepting betterhelp sponsorships in 2024 after all the controversies.
@HudsonValleyVHS
@HudsonValleyVHS 2 ай бұрын
That poll said WILL not SHOULD. Politics my dude, I DON'T think Joker WILL win MVP but I think SHOULD.
@icehot900
@icehot900 2 ай бұрын
not a huge ball watcher but i enjoy watching jokic play also these vids are entertaining asf the way u mix off topic stuff
@Larboga
@Larboga 3 ай бұрын
Dude, I love how unserious you are. Never change
@biglloyd5870
@biglloyd5870 2 ай бұрын
The white panther is insane
@Deathstroke24120
@Deathstroke24120 2 ай бұрын
Jokic getting the LeBron/Jordan treatment : "we not going to vote him every year are we ?"
@kimjiu1794
@kimjiu1794 2 ай бұрын
As a center, he often has most assists because the offense is going through him. He also rebounding under the rim. He is also 3-point shooter and has a big percentage from the field. Those come from an "unathletic" guy.
@ZachMaxon
@ZachMaxon 2 ай бұрын
The only controversy is that he get the MVP last year too…
@lukacalov1988
@lukacalov1988 3 ай бұрын
I already have Jokic around 15th spot all time The man is bannanas Also his nicknames on basketball reference are wild
@Jell0Mode
@Jell0Mode 3 ай бұрын
noooo man, im def for you getting the bag, but not betterhelp.. theyve done some really horrible things
@TrueUIQuan
@TrueUIQuan 3 ай бұрын
Was about to comment the same thing
@Jagzin909
@Jagzin909 3 ай бұрын
I’m a simple man. Modern Jam uploads, I smash the like button.
@splztem
@splztem 3 ай бұрын
Brother’s getting sponsors now 🔥🔥
@dr.chubbz_519
@dr.chubbz_519 3 ай бұрын
New modern jam video ?!?!?!?! we will be there, we will be there.
@nm93932
@nm93932 3 ай бұрын
Shai is young yet he and the Thunder are doing amazing, they don't get enough coverage because they are from a small market. Sad. People should keep an eye on them. They are developing their young players, they are valuable when traded. They become valuable to any team they go to. I have been watching the whole rebuild and have been enjoying watching them improve. Last yeat, even when they lost, watching the improvement, it made it worth watching. I am not surprise that the OKC are towards the top even when everyone said they wouldn't be able to make it. I believed the process with Sam Presti and Coach Mark.
@RonnieLobowski
@RonnieLobowski 3 ай бұрын
lol I subbed just cuz u kept it real and told us you looked up the wrong list on accident 😂
@Latief2026
@Latief2026 3 ай бұрын
thought moderniam was being real like that n pulled out a sponser😭
@Awchshonear
@Awchshonear 3 ай бұрын
so glad i clicked on this video man subscribing fasho
@thetruth4654
@thetruth4654 3 ай бұрын
SGA is a statpadder, it`s in the water at OKC Jokic is the MVP the man should already be on four MVP`s.
@user-zn1eb9jw8p
@user-zn1eb9jw8p 3 ай бұрын
17 year old jake from spring field missouri is shivering in his boots right now
@S_VC
@S_VC 2 ай бұрын
Congrats on the sponsorship
@LevelofClarity
@LevelofClarity 3 ай бұрын
At 3:44 who else thought this dude finally got a bag? Was thinking, oh shit, Better Help sponsored this dude?! Get it. Then… No ad spot. Just basketball. That’s real love of the the game right there 😂 Edit: I kept watching. He did get the bag. Keep up the good work, dude 😎
@carlospetersen5481
@carlospetersen5481 2 ай бұрын
Fire content love the personality
@mhead1117
@mhead1117 2 ай бұрын
Infinity war, winter soldier, avengers, civil war, iron man 2 U buggin if u put black panther over these 5 tbh
@wedabestradi096
@wedabestradi096 3 ай бұрын
Jokic also hit a floater three that counted this year
@al_ns4930
@al_ns4930 2 ай бұрын
King Joker first two months of season has more triples than all of league togethers..so consistency is there down the stretch but very easy to forget !! difference is just fact that he play for team to getting better and thinks about winning championship, personal statistic is secondary thing...league and fans just not used to that, they prefer individual superheroes !! bottom line It would be a real sin if two seasons in a row like Joker's remain without the MVP award I guess !!
@Luso00_
@Luso00_ 3 ай бұрын
My first place vote would go to SGA. But if Jokic wins, it's not a wrong vote. Jokic is already an all-time great.
@frederickdelius1106
@frederickdelius1106 3 ай бұрын
Is this the first sponsered video damn jam. Niiice
@KnoxWheelerJr
@KnoxWheelerJr 2 ай бұрын
It's crazy how much controversy has been generated around such an uncontroversial guy
@apollorivers
@apollorivers 3 ай бұрын
That watching basketball line.
@rasrkopavlovci-dh3ut
@rasrkopavlovci-dh3ut 3 ай бұрын
you actualy funny bro keep up the good work
@Caxzp
@Caxzp 3 ай бұрын
Bro c’mon, better help? You’re buggin if you fr put that ad in the video. They say it’s up to you to guess if there people are qulified
@Xmped
@Xmped 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, people need to know betterhelp is a scam but hard to fault Jam for taking any sponser they can get.
@vohbe
@vohbe 3 ай бұрын
Jokic pretty much averages a triple double😅
@OfficialRegulus
@OfficialRegulus 3 ай бұрын
My MVP is Giannis no doubt. 30.8pgg / 11.2 rebounds / 6.4apg on an elite 61.6 fg%. That's not even taking into account what his work ethic does for his team, the man gets his team & whole franchise motivated.
@OfficialRegulus
@OfficialRegulus 3 ай бұрын
SGA there too, I just don't think Jokic should beat Giannis.
@cultok
@cultok 3 ай бұрын
thank you, giannis, jokic, luka, sga. this is one ofd the best mvp years anyways top1-5 all desreve it
@hogrider5059
@hogrider5059 2 ай бұрын
Imma enjoy watching y’all Roid rage after Joker wins his 3rd MVP… just like y’all idol roid raging over a ladder and a game ball… 😂
@olliejb2758
@olliejb2758 3 ай бұрын
I think the boring aspects of jokics game will continue to keep him from getting the respect he deserves.
@user-od5pz6jc4s
@user-od5pz6jc4s 2 ай бұрын
People are tired of Jok. This should be his 4th straight. The media made last year so toxic to prevent it that this conversation is now beat.
@DunningKrugerJnr
@DunningKrugerJnr 3 ай бұрын
Luka is so much better than SGA despite getting 1/3 of the free throw calls the Canadian gets
@BestShootermanUbz
@BestShootermanUbz 3 ай бұрын
They average the same amount of Free Throws Attempts delusional fanboy.
@coughfee_beans
@coughfee_beans 3 ай бұрын
Come on man Black Panther wasn't even mid. Bottom 10 MCU for sure lol
@mikeylatteri
@mikeylatteri 3 ай бұрын
BCT: “BBQ Chicken Alert!” 🍗
@exitum4684
@exitum4684 3 ай бұрын
Bro, I miss Escalade
@Deathstroke24120
@Deathstroke24120 2 ай бұрын
The modern Bill Walton 🔥
@survivorscheme4754
@survivorscheme4754 2 ай бұрын
It's easy to hate on the Thunder because they have a pdf file on their squad.
@_tuss1731
@_tuss1731 3 ай бұрын
Contrary to popular belief it is very easy to hate on the thunder and I do it a lot
@apollorivers
@apollorivers 3 ай бұрын
Basketball saved my life too .
@Kiwi_J
@Kiwi_J 3 ай бұрын
1:29 i think many people might have understood the question differently. As SGA will win MVP in his carrer not as SGA will win MVP this year.
@jaredanderson53
@jaredanderson53 3 ай бұрын
The stats are basically equal between jokic, sga, and giannis. Tie should go to the player that hasn't won yet. Can't give jokic or giannis a 3rd mvp unless they really separate themselves from the pack.
@itshurtt395
@itshurtt395 2 ай бұрын
Not how it works
@grumpytrade
@grumpytrade 2 ай бұрын
DEfinitley Top 5 Movie
@140acresretired7
@140acresretired7 2 ай бұрын
If the MVP was a honest vote I would care.
@-OAK-
@-OAK- 2 ай бұрын
SGA is doing historic things this season, he just beat the thunder record for most 30 point games and there’s still like 20 games left, he’s one of the most consistent players in nba history, he’s in route to average more 30point games that mj, and just overall he’s top 5 in almost every category in the game. He’s also leading the league in steals, I don’t see a world where SGA doesn’t win.
@itshurtt395
@itshurtt395 2 ай бұрын
And jokic ain't doing historic things? It's clear that your a bias okc fan, you didn't even acknowledge what jokic has done
@-OAK-
@-OAK- 2 ай бұрын
@@itshurtt395 jokic really hasn’t done that much historic things this season, he did hitsoric things the last couple seasons. This season he hasn’t really done much, he’s just the best player in the league. I’m not a baised thunder fan I’m just stating basic facts, shai is doing far more historic thing than jokic this year, and is far more valuable. Without shai the thunder would be the bottom of the play in if not even worse than that. The nuggets without jokic would still be atleast a high playin team if not a low playoff team. Shai also broke a OKC record with 15 games remaining, he’s also on his way to break another thunder record which is the most wins in a season. He’s also been the most consistent player in the nba since Jordan. He has over 40 games with 30 plus. Which is atleast 10 more than the second closest to him this season. He’s leading the league in steals, he’s a defensive player of the year candidate, he top 5 in every category. Shai just deserves it far more. It’s not that I’m a baised OKC fan, I’ll admit jokic is a better player but he doesn’t deserve it over shai, there’s more to the award than just being the best in the league.
@itshurtt395
@itshurtt395 2 ай бұрын
@@-OAK- sga is obv doing crazy stuff this season but your over doing it, he ain't a dpoy candidate that's wild to say. He ain't top 5 in every category either. Saying okc without sga still has chet,jdub,dort they have quality guys, nuggets with jokic is murray,Gordon and mpj also quality guys so there difference ain't crazy like you make it seem. Jokic is doing historic stuff what you talking about rn research it, bro had like a stretch of averaging 27,16,15 he doing historic things, got a triple double against every team and more shit that I haven't said so saying sga is far more valuable is just crazy because clearly the voters think otherwise and its clear that jokic does more around the clock in general
@-OAK-
@-OAK- 2 ай бұрын
@@itshurtt395 you need to do research based on you sayin SGA isn’t in the dpoy, he literally is (I just search it up, he’s not anymore but he was about a month ago) . Second the thunder is a team full of practically rookies, who the second best player on the team only averages 20 points. Without shai they definitely wouldn’t be in the playin. And just because Luka is a better player does no mean he’s more deserving of the award, that’s not what mvp means, it’s most valuable, and I would definitely classify breaking your teams records that are held by players like prime KD, and are stats people haven’t done since MJ, is far more impressive than just having insanely good stats, and it’s not like jokics stats are that much better, shai averages 4 points more and Jokic averages 7 more rebounds, but he’s a center so I’m ruling those out be he has a far better advantage for those. The only other stat that he’s better at that isn’t position connected is assist, which he has 4 more. Yes jokic has better stats, but at the end of the day, shai is not only more valuable, but is having one of the most historic seasons in the nba this century. Jokic is not averaging 27/16/15 he’s averaging 26/12/9 shai is averaging 30/5/6 yes jokics stats are better, but that’s because he’s literally a center where is waaaaay easier to get rebounds and assist like that. Shai is also one of if not the best defensive player in his position. That’s why he was a dpoy candidate, there’s more to mvp that stats, and if stats were all that mattered than Luka would be higher than jokic but Luka doesn’t deserve mvp because he’s got no defensive. Tell me one historic thing jokic has done (this season) shai, is doing multiple historic records, and is going to break another thunder record if he keeps winning.
@itshurtt395
@itshurtt395 2 ай бұрын
@@-OAK- first off doing more historic shit by breaking your team record, doesn't make your mvp odds better ibr. Your whole arguement about jokic being center so he has better stats is irrelevant you don't get "ruled out" because you play different position guards can average 10 rebounds to like a luka, like a westbrook. I said jokic has a historic stretch when he was averaging 27/16/15 if you read my comment. Shai ain't in the dpoy talks I legit don't understand where this is from. He aint the best defender in his position, are we forgetting jrue hoilday? Derrick white? Marcus smart? Heck Mike conley is better, leading the league in steals dont put you in the dpoy candiate😂 otherwise steph curry would have been there. I've already stated historic things jokic has done, but I'll say again. He's the first player to have 3 consecutive games with 14 rebounds and 14 assists, triple double against every team, like you can watch some Yr videos about jokic mvp case for better understanding instead of me saying. Like the eliteness of his scoring,playmkaing,rebounding abilites all put together is just in its own league. Also after jokic the best nuggets player is also averaging 20. The reason jdub only averages 20 is because they have shai who averages 31. Lastly, you keep saying "sga is far more valuable" when the stats alone from jokic should be enough to cancel out far (cancel out that whole statement if I add it other things)
@waldo_9338
@waldo_9338 2 ай бұрын
OKC is 3-1 against Denver this season and SGA has led a college age 10 seed to the top of the western conference, he has also beat KD's 30 point scoring record for OKC this season (that was KD's mvp run) and he is nearly indistinguishable side by side on paper next to the likes of Michael fucking Jordan on some of his mvp runs. He plays defense too. Giving the mvp to SGA this season is not disrespecting Jokic, giving the mvp to Jokic is disrespecting SGA this season.
@jp23x
@jp23x 2 ай бұрын
Bro went from saying that watching NBA games was his therapy to better help haha
@robertfox4501
@robertfox4501 2 ай бұрын
Man Luka is the best player in the league right now.. 7 consecutive triple doubles and 5 of them were 35+ point games.
@dionysise5008
@dionysise5008 3 ай бұрын
Of course Joker is top15 all time. Hello....
@alecbarton28
@alecbarton28 2 ай бұрын
I am big Embiid guy but Jokic definitely deserves it this year & he is suffering from voter fatigue still.
@alexanderruhtenberg976
@alexanderruhtenberg976 2 ай бұрын
And then age when people are more concerned about if somebody’s gonna think that doing the right thing what happened last year give me the order and bead that was ridiculous that ripped Nikola Jokić off
@look_at_kai
@look_at_kai 2 ай бұрын
BARBEQUE CHICKEN ALERT🗣️🔥🍗
@AccursedBlade
@AccursedBlade 3 ай бұрын
Voter fatigue plays a huge factor which is why I think Shai will win MVP
@yngsiberian4122
@yngsiberian4122 3 ай бұрын
Except he really deserved it last year and lost out of pity to embiid. I doubt people make the same mistake twice
@turkew2
@turkew2 3 ай бұрын
Modern Jam came out absolutely goofy today. 😂
@ModernTwoThree
@ModernTwoThree 3 ай бұрын
The videos sm more fun to make when im joking around😂😂
@Snyper117
@Snyper117 3 ай бұрын
Sabonis should be in this conversation
@smoothkriminal8108
@smoothkriminal8108 3 ай бұрын
923.94 people said yes. thats literally my bday and I want Shai to win lmao. Thats actually effing crazy. Also been following okc since 2016 just before russ won mvp and you brought that up to...
@jaylenbarnes2.079
@jaylenbarnes2.079 3 ай бұрын
Amazing Work
@minecraftguy1345
@minecraftguy1345 3 ай бұрын
Hope you’re getting a bag from that advertisement. You’ve come so far in such a short amount of time. Quality videos you deserve a bag and 1/2
@ryandoan4168
@ryandoan4168 2 ай бұрын
Jokic plays basketball sitting down
@SikoMC
@SikoMC 3 ай бұрын
SGA is defenetly top 5 this season but.. IF anyone wins it over jokic it should be luka. Giannis still slightly ahead of SGA and Sabonis would be 4 or 5 depending on where i put SGA.. and.. if you buy a car you expect to be slow but it goes faster then anyone else besides the very best ones.. that does not directly make this car the best car.. it simply just outperformed YOUR expectations!
@iona401channel7
@iona401channel7 3 ай бұрын
bruh jokic doesn't care MVP he care about championship
@tonysobon4669
@tonysobon4669 2 ай бұрын
It's been a weird year. I really wish Giannis and The Bucks didn't need every game to practice. If he wanted to he could have made a push , his stats are as good as anyone's , he's by far the best defender out of the leaders , he also has led The Bucks to having the most wins over the last 5 seasons then any other team . Not saying Jokic or SGA should not be at the top but it should be far more of a 3 headed race. But again Giannis is a bit hurt and they are using what games left to just keep their standings and work on getting Khris back into the fold and how to get the best out of the top of the roster when playing together. Annnnd Giannis is still putting up his numbers on what's been his hardest year during the regular season.
@jackoteroiii3528
@jackoteroiii3528 3 ай бұрын
love the fucking editing on this
@iamabotdude5545
@iamabotdude5545 2 ай бұрын
luka not being first is a joke. Actually boggles my mind that all y'all just completely write him off for being a lower seed.
@itsmecuh
@itsmecuh 3 ай бұрын
Did you forget Luka is averaging 35/9/9 ? Why is it just joker and sga
@notimportant3686
@notimportant3686 2 ай бұрын
it is actually luka who is 2 but is disqualfied due to team standings... if he gets to 6th seed, he will have a chance at mvp, if he gets to 5th seed it will be a literal coin flip between jok and don and if he gets 4th it's luka's even though they both deserve it equally, but they'll definitely be looking to give it to anyone but jokic if they can and 34/9/10 that luka is averaging is plenty good enough
@jaredanderson53
@jaredanderson53 3 ай бұрын
Sga is putting up jordan numbers. He's the best two way player in the nba and has the best record in the tougher conference. He should win mvp.
@itshurtt395
@itshurtt395 2 ай бұрын
He ain't the best two way guard. Him and jokic have the same record? Have you even watched the nba?
@anandpandey5331
@anandpandey5331 2 ай бұрын
6:18 i actually got that right. Joh hart my betting wagon
@carnifex423
@carnifex423 3 ай бұрын
barbecue chicken alert
@KnoxWheelerJr
@KnoxWheelerJr 2 ай бұрын
Crazy LeBron & Jokić both got their third consecutive MVPs stolen
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