The Official VSH Tier List

[@shovknight3008]

It’s interesting how pyro went from being the worst class without question in versus saxton hale to being actually pretty good just by having airblast not add to Hales charge.

[@korhol2065]

Why was that feature added anyway?

[@simplysmiley4670]

@@korhol2065 to prevent pyro from shutting down hale which, eh demoknights and engineers already did

[@yourdemiseishere]

Me when the slowest gamemode ever has been fixed by letting saxton do ANYTHING but crawl at the nearest person and stun them.

[@JoshButterballs]

? critswitch pyro used to deal highest damage for a while

[@JoshButterballs]

? critswitch pyro used to deal highest damage for a while

[@Grakalor]

I feel you kinda just glossed over the tiny little buff the widow maker has, it deals bonus damage to the same target as your sentry. In normal games this is complete doodoo poop fart but when your sentry is only gonna be targeting this one guy it actually makes the damage buff noticeable

[@terrifichorse369]

“complete doodoo poop fart” This shouldn’t be as funny as it was 😭

[@somethingenglish9723]

we love KZbin restriction policies

[@Jevilrune]

Saxton hale cannot be stopped, no matter how much KZbin can try

[@demoman5864]

Australian justice!

[@terrifichorse369]

Control Point: allow me to introduce myself

[@nameless......................]

​@@terrifichorse369hammer mapmakers: nah

[@light6666]

"i killed your last medic what are you gonna do now?" the half zat (and drunk) demo: "eyyyy" *charges into hale*

[@Gandalf-The-Gay]

I absolutely love how KZbin age restricted the original video but they have absolutely no problem with people uploading half-naked yoga without any restrictions.

[@ramannoodles.]

3 words: Low Hanging Fruit

[@Gandalf-The-Gay]

@@ramannoodles. That's usually the tastiest kind of fruit.

[@TheTundraTerror]

>half

[@insanityleech]

Its not bad if its "educational"

[@THE_MrNoob]

They still haven’t gotten rid of “Who touched my Pepsi”

[@anthonyriego659]

Once again, the original version didn't deserved to be age-restricted. I need to say this, but KZbin better THINK before age-restricting.

[@flamingscar5263]

How do you expect an AI to think? And before you say "yotube ahould have real people in charge of age restrictions" youtube is WAYYY to massive for that, litterally weeks worth of content uploaded per second, let's say the average video is 5 minutes, that would mean you'd need, youtube would need at least 2,500 people watching videos 24/7, with full time shifts that's 10,000 people needed

[@anthonyriego659]

@@flamingscar5263 *facepalm*

[@Dutchyuri]

They need to make the ai better duh

[@zebruhmoment]

@@flamingscar5263 As mentioned before you can make the ai better. Secondly, you only need to hire people for appeals, and only the time stamp the AI marked for age restriction, no the whole video.

[@walugusgrudenburg3068]

​@@flamingscar5263It's fine to have robots age-restrict things, after all it's not very feasible to check every single video by hand. BUT! Appeals exist. They should be handled by actual humans who actually care, and they really aren't! A bogus age-restriction should be resolvable in a few hours at most by submitting one (1) appeal.

[@victoriouswinner7745]

This is the 3rd VSH tier list you’ve ever uploaded. You are truly the VSH tier list king.

[@RustyTExcel]

I like using the Hitman's Heatmaker a lot in VSH mainly because of the quieter shots. Hale players will most likely target the Sniper if they hear their shot echo through the open map, so having one that's quiet gives you a bigger chance of remaining undetected, at least for my experience.

[@Amarenamann]

"One does not simply make a TF2 tier list." -Boromir

[@Amarenamann]

Without getting age restricted...

[@ak47manplaysall94]

(This comment is copied over from the original video before it got taken down. I am reposting to see if anyone wants to discuss this) The video was generally pretty good with solid advice and pretty decent ratings for most things. HOWEVER you both undersold some weapons and classes and completely ignored others. One weapon I'm super surprised you didn't bring up at all was the reserve shooter. In VSH v-script the reserve shooter does full crits anytime Hale is in the air because of his jumps. It used to be anytime he was off the ground but that was nerfed. The reserve shooter is probably the most consistent damage soldier and pyro can output, especially pyro because it allows him to get decent damage with the crit airshots while Hale is out of range of the flamethrower and moving to much for the flare guns. And on top of that, it has a faster switch speed meaning that when you see Hale in the air you can just swap to it and get some easy shotgun crits on him. All if these things combined make it incredibly powerful and a shame and a blessing more people don't use it in VSH. Another weapon I feel was undersold was the Force-a-Nature. Most of my time playing VSH has been relegated to scout as he is the class I am most comfortable with and the weapon I consistently get the best results with is the FaN. The extra mobility of having extra jumps and corrections mid-air while still having your primary weapon out is insane and allows for more dodges and jukes from the scouts end. Plus the knockback means that either the Hale is going to have to put way more effort in to killing a FaN scout than a babyface's blaster scout. Because with the babyface all Hale has to do to effectively counter you is do a slam in your area and then you are slowed down to a crawl meaning the Hale can either punch you or finish you off with a charge. With the FaN you still have access to double jumping, and it doesn't negatively affect your movement speed. These things alone make even the stock just as good as babyface however with the knockback and the extra jump, this puts it far and away the best scattergun. You can use it to help push Hale off important teammates, jump up to harder to reach and hit places, allows you to stall Hale so long as you don't miss shots. With all of these things along side scouts innate movement and the even more movement utility that wall climbing gives means that you will get to do the most damage possible with maintaining great survivability. From experience I have reached the last three surviving team members almost every time which means that you also get mini-crits and if left alive long enough full crits meaning the already great knockback is further increased due to the increase in damage. And with fewer teammates alive, you can more freely shove Hale around wherever you need him to go to ensure survivability. Pair the FaN with the Sandman and even if the Hale knows how to avoid most of the slowdown you can be sure that with the extra 50 damage the ball brings you are also getting more long range damage as well as slowing the Hale down for at least a second before the start to realize they need to counter the slowdown. In my opinion these weapons are hugely powerful and impactful. Now if we talk about good Hale players there isn't much any class can do but as you said in the video going off of normal Hale players they both get insane value for just having them.

[@sev1120]

Another note is he didn't really talk about the Direct Hit for the soldier, simply decrying it as bad and moving on, but it actually has a niche no other rocket launcher can fill as effectively consistently: Support. With rockets that move faster and deal more damage to Saxton, but the same damage to a soldier who uses them to rocket jump, you can build up banners faster than with any other launcher (except maybe the air strike with a maxed out clip) The smaller radius and mini-crits on super jumping saxtons is also good, the the latter moreso than the former. Smaller blast radius' mean that, whilst you can't deal with crowds as well, against Saxton you're only dealing with one guy so that's not as bad, plus with a decent engineer you can offset the ammo used by missing (which is just as bad with every other launcher) The mini-crits on airborne saxtons allows you to limit an entire axis of movement for him, which is INCREDIBLY good in a gamemode like VSH. All in all, the Direct Hit works best when you go for a more supporting playstyle with a banner and probably the disciplinary action too, not when you're going for a pure damage role.

[@cewla3348]

as someone who loves BFB scout, have fun catching my opinion!

[@SnaksiXD]

Wait, how are the miniguns bad? They deal pretty big damages and- oh. They've been artificially nerfed to the grave....

[@masterofdoots5965]

Why the hell is it a *-40%* damage penalty? That is WAY too much!

[@zuhdibeyblade9]

​@masterofdoots5965 seeing you and OP's comment shows how you have zero understanding how much DPS the minigun does. The damage penalty is there for the same reason it has on sentries, it shreds them very quickly. Hale having 20k HP would get absolutely decimated by stacking heavies with no damage penalty. Hale gets his damage done by meleeing them, which wouldn't you know it, heavy's deadliest range for his minigun to do max damage.

[@masterofdoots5965]

@zuhdibeyblade9 I know that without the nerf, he would be way too powerful, but making the minigun that weak just feels a bit too much. Maybe -30% would still be balanced, IDK

[@-RandomStranger-]

​@@zuhdibeyblade9 yeah but atleast make the miniguns balanced/useful instead of boot kicking them into a grave

[@sasasa1541]

@@zuhdibeyblade9that’s true but a wise Hale doesn’t run up to a Heavy to just punch them in the face, you can kill then with charges, stomp shockwaves, Saxton punches and head stomps, all of which besides the last one do percentage-based damage so Heavy’s health pool is absolutely worthless. I’ve noticed that Heavy doesn’t have a damage reduction on vsh_facility, one of the more popular community VSH maps (where you fight the Robo-Hale) and yet I can still consistently win as Saxton against Heavy-stacked teams in spite of the brave jump cooldown, weaker abilities etc., it just requires a little more brainpower. The minigun damage nerf just rewards bad Saxtons and makes Heavy totally obsolete against good ones

[@SaintRedFox]

still a very important video for the 5 people who still play VSH

[@mr.monkey354]

There are still full vsh servers. Hell, I get them half the time in casual when queueing for other modes

[@cheeseycheese8246]

​@@mr.monkey354theres also community servers, theres not that many but the few that do are usually always filled up

[@Aibadenshi]

Tbh. The only nerf I wish Hale got is to make his punches deal 130 damage. Unlike the community mod version, in Vscript he got a ton of extra damage damage from ground pound and charge punch which already deal significantly alot more damage then running to someone and punch them, he can keep the power up punch being a full 195 and sentry destroying capability but regular attack should only deal 130.

[@DataDrain02]

On top of that, maybe Heavy needs some additional damage resistance like what Medic had? Maybe he should be able to take 3 hits (4 with overheal). I mean, he's the TANK class. Why is Medic about as tanky as a Heavy?

[@Aibadenshi]

@@DataDrain02 That also accounted if Hale fist was nerfed to 130 damage since Hale need to 3 punch to kill a heavy. This doesn`t include other ability hale got tho.

[@DataDrain02]

@@Aibadenshi Ah, fair enough. And if Hale had this nerf... Medic wouldn't need that innate damage resistance. Since he would be 2 shot like before.

[@-RandomStranger-]

I think that's WAAAAY too weak, especially the power up punch. Now you cant even kill level 3 TELEPORTERS AND DISPENSERS, let alone other classes. Overhealed Heavies, shields and level 3 sentries are the only thing that can tank a Saxton Punch, we should keep it that way

[@Aibadenshi]

@@-RandomStranger- Do you forgot that Hale can just charge punch in and then ground slam for a ton of AoE before hitting whatever with the power up punch that have AoE that could also kill/destroy anything it hit and on top of that Hale can just start punching people as normally after all of that.

[@GordonFreekman]

The old thumbnail was so much better. Why cant KZbin be less of a dumbass

[@daniboi_oneninefive]

what was the original?

[@GordonFreekman]

@@daniboi_oneninefive Saxton standing on the bodies of the mercs

[@colecarstarphen8743]

For those who wonder what the song in the intro is, it's called: find your one way. from the guilty gear strive ost, it's specifically sol badguys theme.

[@DataDrain02]

Maybe this is just placebo. But, doesn't the stock melee for Demo have more knockback than the swords? I feel like when I was messing around with Demopan. I knockes Hale away more often. But... again, could just be placebo. Also... not sure why you're so angry about the Pain Train. If a Hale LETS you cap. That's his fault. He's so flipping OP. Something that actually gives your team a SLIGHT advantage isn't the end of the world. Plus give it time, the Pain Train will probably be nerfed like all the other tactics from the past. Remember when 2 Ubersaw hits gave you full Uber?

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

Swords have less knockback yes, although technically I think hitting Hale at the maximum sword range + the knockback it deals is equal or close to the same stock bottles. My issue with the pain train and capping in general is how it completely removes the VS part of Versus Saxton Hale. You gotta realize that all the maps are designed with the point in the middle, aka the best place to stand and be, resulting in people capping a lot more than should be Obviously there are valid times to cap, but that really only happens if the last 3 guys are turtling Engineer's or Spy and Scout.

[@sirchris6047]

​@@SpaceGuyOnlineCry some more 😢

[@th1v5]

​@@sirchris6047 i doubt he really cares about one guy insulting him, although i do understandnthere are some problems with his points

[@phillipanderson7899]

Isn't buff banner zatoichi soldier neigh unkillable, due to the damage resistance and health buff?

[@cheesywithers]

God soldier

[@typedtim]

wrong banner

[@funnymannotfunny]

No as saxton can just A: leave and come back when the banner ends B: use an ability or combo to oneshot the soldier

[@phillipanderson7899]

@@funnymannotfunny combo? How so?

[@cewla3348]

@@phillipanderson7899 slam (percentage) + melee charge + melee + fall damage SAXTOOON PUUUUNCH!!!

[@littlebadassgaming]

11:20 you forgot to bring up side strafes with the bonk atomic lunch. Literally the sandman slow but self applied.

[@corncob5198]

bonk atomic lunch 🐱👍

[@littlebadassgaming]

@@corncob5198 Ye. That stuff is my lunch.

[@skittlenaut5125]

Nice list! I think you nailed most of the placements, and this is coming from a vscript VSH enjoyer that's played hundreds of hours. It's not easy covering almost every weapon, and do it well. My only major gripes are Soldier/Trolldier/Spy placement, and you're missing a very important VSH mechanic. 1:14:50 Market gardens and backstabs do the same amount of base damage. The reason the two hits you compared didn't do the same amount of damage is because they probably didn't. Damage in VSH is calculated by not only the amount of players, but also the amount of teammates who've died. So when you got the 1000 damage backstab it probably took you longer, and more of your team was dead than when you got the 750 MG. Anyways, maybe I wont have to see scouts with that garbage cleaver or gift wrap anymore, so thanks. If you ever make an updated list please just scream MAD MILK 200x over the scout section.

[@arcitatious]

What i love about vsh is how different the meta is from other casual modes. If there is a tf3 in the future I hope it returns

[@Yozzoy]

Watched it once, may aswell watch it again! Great and informative content as usual. Shame about KZbin being silly

[@Amarenamann]

Greetings, citizen! I saw some mudcrabs by the water recently; I stay clear of them. Nasty creatures, but I hear their meat is rather tasty.

[@theshermantanker7043]

22:05 Saxton is completely immune to the crocodile pit in Skirmish, airblasting him in there is absolutely pointless

[@arcitatious]

funny how two of the top 4 in the og list are now so far down due to map design differences and making sniper require effort

[@martinpachu7125]

9:45 LISA mentioned? LISA mentioned? LISA mentioned?

[@poptartsandcream1960]

58:47 was exactly so terrifying oh my god

[@sqbuilder1328]

Im pretty sure the original upload was age restricted because the "sax" part of "saxton hale" sounds like "sex" and you say "saxton hale" quite a few times over the course of the video

[@ChevalierSilver]

its been some time since I played VSH (don't even know if people are still playing it), but as medic I used to run the amputator because I hated having 3 or more people with almost no hp looking at me asking for heal, and only being able to slowly heal one at a time. So I preferred to risk doing the taunt with the amputador and try to heal everyone rather than deal with this shit situation with only the medgun

[@mr.monkey354]

Yes, finding full lobbies is incredibly common

[@cewla3348]

crossbow fills that niche and lets you do more medicing than probably dying to any competent saxton

[@kennysalty6019]

Time to rewatch this for the algorithm boost. I got your back SpaceGuy

[@catzeball8047]

32:48 best sentry save of all time (poor bastard exploded)

[@somedudewithakeyboard5388]

I will now watch another 1:20:35 video to counter the need for a reupload

[@aripocki]

Good video, but not great for beginners. You kinda skip over the stuff you assume everyone knows, like why capping is cowardly or why the Direct Hit is bad.

[@scelebob4329]

watching all of this knowing damn well i dont have tf2 and i wont remember any of this after it ends. good content!

[@oddy8849]

It's free

[@scelebob4329]

@@oddy8849 ....i.. know this.. i just dont play it.

[@morgradation]

highly disagree with the "reduces mobility" point on the beggar's bazooka as its probably tied with the air strike as the most mobile soldier primary due to overload jumps, you just have to get used to the timing

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

You know Hale can instantly jump from one end of the map to the other right? Needing to wait several seconds to load rockets to make a jump is just going to get you killed compared to how instant the other Rocket launchers are

[@livenishikireaction]

wow, i never knew Saxton Hale was infact Sol Badguy from Guilty Gear Strive

[@greenoftreeblackofblue6625]

Good job, Good video. I disagree with everything you said. +respect

[@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad]

KZbin, I’m subscribed. That means I like this guy’s content and want to watch it. Show it to me

[@schizophreniagaming1187]

how did this even get age restricted? it's literally just gamers discussing game strats

[@swift7842]

The current theory is that it could have been the thumbnail. But we don’t know for certain since YT didn’t give any justification for the restriction

[@DoucheBagDave.]

I remember seeing you in game spacey, I’d put a link as proof to a screenshot but my comment got removed when I did 💀, but its good to see ya uploading again

[@jakedoesyoutube]

A fun idea for heavy I cooked up was him taking less damage from Hale's punches (ie: heavy takes no melee crit damage). If he only took 65 damage as opposed to 195, his slow movement and reduced knockback would be a fair-ish trade for being able to have a boxing match Saxton. Would be super busted with the Holiday Punch.

[@HEHEHE_I_AM_A_SUPAHSTAR_WARRIA]

Vscript Hale is fun but i've come to resent it for basically killing off plugin Hale mostly for a version with only one boss and only four maps. At least Freak Fortress is still a thing. Plus aside from Medic and Pyro I felt most classes are more fun in Plugin.

[@Spook_dude]

I sure do love it when youtube restricts videos for no f**kin reason

[@Blujay64]

Hale hid all those bodies under a pile of rocks, hes got that sigma mindset

[@mathclass2548]

I like the direct hit in vs saxton hale :( it taught me how to hit air shots

[@dragonlord4898]

Aight why’s it been reuploaded? Copyright? Bet it’s copyright

[@double2254]

It was age restricted and was given no reason why

[@dragonlord4898]

F U N!!!

[@Altaltalt4-js1sh]

yay…

[@Minced_Prime-J4dgm3nt]

24:03 ultrakill refrence??????????????? (check the chat box)

[@Leothecat2way]

It's just ridiculous that Heavy got a huge damage nerf across the board with his Miniguns. They should have been removed, considering Heavy is risky af.

[@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad]

13:17 is that the old model?

[@thesalvager3020]

29:00 From what I've found testing the Axetinguisher, you actually DON'T get the speed boost when hitting Hale. So it doesn't even have that going for it.

[@beaksters]

It’s a shame how hard it is to find one of these games nowadays.

[@leorickaldana366]

What song was used for the intro? It sounds like a Guilty Gear song.

[@Luka-prisma-ravencroft]

Hey the gg ost at the start lesss gooo

[@DoucheBagDave.]

Wait I just realized I came back later to finish this video and I’m in it 💀

[@celtecgames3821]

Genuine question. How did the original get age restricted? I was only halfway through the engie section and nothing realy skated the lines of tos before then

[@nyancatec]

He... didn't get any answer to that. He showed on his community post that there's no communication with yt about it. "What was restricted?" "IDK, just deal with it lel"

[@Sypitz]

How does a sniper rifle get age restricted? People under the age of 18 are usually barred from buying those

[@mizutogamernerd]

Omfg! I show up in this video 5:16 I can't get over that 😂

[@outlier9099]

9:45 heheheheh lisa status effects

[@youtubeisawebsite7484]

crazy how memorable they are. it's been years for me and it instantly took me back

[@racinracerxp8645]

Ah i see KZbin did the funny again

[@peterthanos2209]

I think you undervalue the Reserve Shooter INSANELY HARD on soldier. Playing with the liberty launcher or even the rocket jumper with the reserve shooter makes you an impossible to catch mosquito that constantly pumps out 40-50 damage hits from really long ranges. While it’s not the best thing you can do, it’s certainly worth a try and DEFINITELY worth at least a mention. Edit: Pyro too? For shame.

[@smollmoth6376]

I don't really play tf2 that much anymore so I'm not very experienced in Saxton hale but I would've thought the shotguns would be better. Like it could give Pyro some safe medium range hitscan, and soldier can use it when he needs to reload.

[@flyguydev2008]

Disciplinary action sounds like it could be a looney tunes skit.

[@Maddiedoggie]

Hello, friend of one of the map developers here. I was surprised to hear that my friend Muddy made Tiny Rock... uh... that's all I gotta say, just wanted to flex that I know one of the map devs lol. Edit: Used to know. Turns out they fucking hate me or some shit.

[@henrybottomsworth]

cuz you're a furry

[@waterendermanEE]

Hang on, I've already watched this God dammit

[@HeckYeahProductions]

Actually we comprised a team full of only medics and destroyed Saxton. So, Medic should get his own tier.

[@vycanon7057]

What was the music that played during the end of the heavy segment? i.e. 44:10 Heard it before but can't remember where.

[@Gust3883]

You forgot to rank the Third Degree for pyro. Kinda wish you did since I'm not really sure if it's viable or not.

[@geoffreygualtieri378]

I literally just watched the original one yesterday, guess I gotta watch it again.

[@FlappJackz]

I gotta know what the name of the song at the beginning is

[@mr.tweaty]

What is the music at the beginning of the video?

[@danielhuelsman76]

The Sun on a stick might be more useful than usual because Saxton's one opponent versus many, and that could mean he'd be on fire more often.

[@michaeljonathan9715]

Isn't Sun on a stick only upside is 100% critical damage vs burning player and 25% fire resistance while active ? The stock bat (which is the worst stock melee in raw DPS, even the stock shovel have 25% more DPS) is better than this due to almost all melees are crit-boosted which include stock bat. Lizard of Oz propably forgot this melee exist because popular bad weapon videos only cover bison, classic, syringe guns, etc (or doesn't know how to buff it to not be borderline overpowered like eyelander & half-zatoichi)

[@danielhuelsman76]

@@michaeljonathan9715 I think the Spy's knife might be worse if you suck at being a spy.

[@yaboidivine9337]

I love the family guy Death pose haha

[@AndresinReal]

Oh, nice video Only one problem, you forgot THE AMBASSADOR!

[@kinggrim2376]

too bad it got overshadow by *THE* *AMBASSADOR*

[@ink-T]

guilty gear MUSIC?????????!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YEAH

[@lucianogastonbuetdelgado7670]

Maybe a way to buff heavy could be giving him damage resistance and making him faster and take more knowback the less hp he has

[@PretzelSage]

Holy fuck Saxon is just doom fist

[@apewithpen2960]

STRRIIIIIKKKEEEE BAAAAAACCKKKKKK

[@ziguen465]

Idk if it's really that bad about the Beggar's Bazooka, i got really good at it, but it's hit or miss really, you can still land most rockets if you aim properly, because it's predictable that the rockets will be going the way you shoot a bit higher on the crosshair, so you aim lower to hit Saxton, i could land 3 rockets on him depending on the situation, or not hit a single one because i was still reloading lol.

[@insomnia88]

Can somebody holiday punch, and then get a telaporter underneath him and have somebody go through?

[@prestongrice22]

lmaoooo. having a beggars downside be “reduced mobility” is hilarious to me

[@NotFunnyJohnny]

FAFNIR 👊🔥

[@TARINunit9]

Let's be clear: if you're capping the point it's because the other team is being an even worse scummy coward than you are. Capping the point is a TWO scummy coward system, not a solo one

[@noriakikakyoin5745]

I did not expect to be jumpscared by Guilty Gear upon opening this video, but I was pleasantly surprised

[@Willowo98]

I'm so glad this wasn't an actual tier list tbh

[@AntiNeon4681]

Who would’ve guessed, the better classes are the ones who can get up close to Saxton Hale, and Live

[@Beghty27]

My favorite part about capping in vsh is that no matter how many people dislike it, it still wins the game.

[@404RBTCS]

You forgot to mention the Reserve Shooter.

[@Small_child_punter]

I don’t mind watching this again

[@TeeJayMate]

Keep in mind any bleed weapons on scout will give BFB gauge from the ticks

[@PurpleJak3]

Great teir list and completely agree on the pain train part

[@Skrappr1]

Find your one way 🗣

[@UNALLOYEDSLOP]

31:18 Captain SpaceGuy is incredibly cursed

[@HexterXD]

Man, MegaPieMan’s Saxton voice is pretty spot on.

[@mono_akumu]

dragon's fury is the best flamethrower for pyro in VSH, yes you only get 8 airblasts in a full tank, but the amount of DUMMY DAMAGE this produces is more than the backburner and plog combined, considering with it you can deal upwards to 270 damage per half second, and assuming your a god at manueverability, unskilled saxton players have no chance against you, especialy in a 1v1

[@thelovingrockerboy7811]

KZbin age restriction shenanigans aside, did you ever manage to get your backpack again after those people brute-forced their way into it? I'm really hoping you at least got something back, it sucks ass that it happened to you.

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

I got a lot of it back yes but not everything

[@thelovingrockerboy7811]

@@SpaceGuyOnline could you at least get your Corona Australis and such back?

[@Orange_the_guy]

Wee wee baguette

[@consume7045]

Hearing the guilty gear music off rip let me know this video was gonna be NICE

[@the_apotecary_from_tf2]

Let us be clear If i capped it's because medic was being a coward and hid untill near the end of the round

[@slyfox7452]

With saxtons speed the flairguns have the same issue as the rockets. The man melter deals good damage has a faster projectile speed meaning you can aim easier and is a good combo tool.

[@vverbov22]

I'd argue spy is the best. It's underestimated how braindead the damage potential is. Demoknight is good to have, but 2-3 spies is what's carrying the team to victory. Let's say we take out 1 class, which would you think hurt team the most? Bingo, the spy. Literally nobody deals even half his damage on average.

[@pigcakees7432]

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