[TF2] The Slender Fortress Tier List

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

I'm not normally the kinda guy to say "like, share and sub" But I'm quite surprised on how poor this video is doing compared to others on the channel, like horrendously going down, 45% worse. Trend I noticed with the past few videos which haven't even surpassed 20k views but I'm really hoping this particular video gets enough views since I A. Put a decent amount of effort and time in it and B. It's based around a community gamemode that I feel needs to get more attention. I'll do more tier list videos like this in the future, primarily with Zombie Escape and a brand new community game mode when it's actually open for the public.

[@beatthatlife3457]

To be fair its midnight in alot of places right now so maybe give it time

[@Dabadi4834]

I'm gonna call it here Zombie escape huntsman is going to be hight tier (unless huntsman explosions are disabled)

[@browniegp9762]

:( sad youtube algorithm moment

[@coolguy-xd1bg]

you shouldn't be surprised. how many people, in your estimation, have even heard of slender fortress?

[@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad]

Maybe since people don’t know what it is they don’t bother clicking on it

[@Kapnohuxi_folium]

This is the one alternate community gamemode I've never played before. Definitely gonna try it out now, thanks CosmosGentlemanNetworked.

[@karigrandi7]

is pretty shite

[@chillmanmax775]

@@r9ue and peeme

[@ShockInazuma]

@@chillmanmax775 and assme

[@spectre4179]

How do I access these modes?

[@pug8714]

@@spectre4179 community servers

[@lepatrick4596]

i really appreciate you adding a "recommended loadouts" list... a lot better than having to ask after the round started and getting told to not use the bushwacka.....while i already have it equipped

[@MajiriTadakichi]

Honestly i think it's fun learning the hard way sometimes.

[@idkwhyieventryanymore]

There is, in the card at the start of every class.

[@aidanwhite2894]

@@idkwhyieventryanymorehe said that

[@RealDeathCorridor]

Creator of Slender Fortress Modified (The version Disc-FF uses) here, we always ranked classes after each beta version of 1.7.0 every time I either nerf or buff specific classes, and there are quite a number of hidden stats that I never mentioned in even the help menu since it is a beta build and I barely updated the localization part. Its weird since another community I work with which is where I am most of the time, which is District Zen, they ranked all 9 classes differently. It does make me happy people are still passionate about this gamemode.

[@CriticaI0]

I gotta say district zen is way more better than all sf2 Server (original was better to

[@spectre4179]

How do I play this mode? Can't find it on the tf2 menu

[@haterIV]

@@spectre4179 its a community server

[@spectre4179]

@@haterIV thanks

[@paulmann8570]

I know I like to put the server on blast due to specific players, but I couldn't be happier knowing your server is getting consistent crowds of players every day. Really shows the effort you put in and the freedom Fire gives you to do what you believe is best for it. While not a part of the Slender Admin Team (and I'm sorry, ol' boy, but I have no interest outside of Murder, lol), I'm more than satisfied with the team currently in place as well. I hope you're just as happy people are as passionate today as they were when this video was made and before. You did a damn good job, fam.

[@aquaticmisconception5866]

This would be the second community gamemode that I've learned about through spaceguy. cool and good video

[@scyther-x4903]

what's the first one?

[@Jun.Suzuki]

@@scyther-x4903 vs hale im guessing

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

You must be new to tf2

[@leroysteveson38]

Yes!, I used to sweat all the time on slender fortress in 2016, getting back into it with this video, appreciate it

[@NNinja1255]

I looked into the code of the gamemode, the Powerjack DOES increase speed for Pyro.

[@nolyn46]

Enjoyable and informative I always tend to like your tierlist videos for these community game modes as I know now that picking pyro seems to just be terrible everywhere, thanks for the helpful tierlists and bits of advice for these new game modes

[@nothinghere2744]

Hi other patreon member

[@nolyn46]

Hello o/

[@brisloviayt829]

Pyro is pretty good in Zombie Escape and Smash Fortress

[@SwaggyG_2102]

Feels good to see such a niche custom gamemode get attention by being covered.

[@Loner098]

More niche than Fort Wars, Balloon Race, and Murder at the Manor (basically just Murder Mystery with Spies and the murderers have classes)?

[@peika8324]

Before the GRU nerf, heavy GRU used to “dominate” slender. I mean heavy can stay sanity the longest and have high hp. Yes I use to tryhard slender, because I’m poor and scared to play other scary game. p/s: demo sprint longer when he get scared. He can even out run scout because of the longer meter. But scout sprint is universal, so I won’t say he outclass scout

[@wintermanthenforcer]

Slender Fortress? This takes me back to 2013-2015! I used to frequent Glubbable's sever and it's one of the best example of TF2's modding ever

[@delimiter2886]

I'm a little sad that Glubbable has left TF2, and is very unlikely to ever return in anyway to tf2

[@Enragedboi]

@@delimiter2886 why'd Glubbable leave?

[@senero3121]

Finally, i thought KZbinrs literally forgot about slender fortress, good one Mr!

[@firedolphin7621]

Well constructed and formatted as always. You put a nice creative flair on these videos such as the SFM shots for each class. I really enjoy your tier list videos and I hope you make more in the future! Shame this one isn't performing as well.

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

Doing better now, I judge videos by reach so as long as it gets more views than I have subs I consider it a success.

[@firedolphin7621]

@@SpaceGuyOnline Glad it’s getting the attention it deserves. Good luck with your future videos! I look forward to what you have in store for the future!

[@sakura368]

heavy is for being a wall for non-instant kills sniper is for staring into the enemy's eyes demo and scout are for running away spy is for "stealth is optional"

[@firelord55]

Just saw your video on my server. Nice video and yes there are a lot of cringe donators. One thing I was talking about with my admins recently was improving some of the lesser used classes so things might change in future updates.

[@TemplarBlonic]

Isn’t there a fourth type of boss called the Hit and Run? They’re the hardest of them all and get progressively faster in a chase along with obliterating entire groups in an instant, forcing people to go alone.

[@SpaceGuyOnline]

There's technically like 16 boss types but they all are more or less the same, they spot you and they chase you, for time constraints it's easier to just group them all together since they're all functionally the same.

[@str4wb3rryjam]

Hit and Run bosses are not that difficult to outrun, you just gotta have quick reaction time and run away before they even initiate the chase sequence. You just gotta not look at them lol

[@crobertson-lu2ph]

There are 5 tipes of bosses 1 is static, 2 is stature 3 chasers 4 is hit and run and 5 is charger Which can not be stunned by anything at all.

[@creeperjo7]

The scariest thing about this gamemode is how long it takes to download all a servers content

[@thewindwakinghero7423]

KZbin during the day: nothing KZbin while trying to sleep: ever heard of entertainment

[@lustsoul69]

This has to do with the way our humor and toleration increases the more tired we get. _The more you know_

[@Luis.A.Angeli]

I think that some community gamemodes are pretty underrated, i remember watching slender fortress since 2016 and getting scared all the time, but people dont mind much those alternative gamemodes nowadays, maybe because they are mostly difficult to understand or play. But lets be honest this videos are one of the most unique in the entire community of tf2, keep it up the good content man!

[@legendaryfella3236]

Yeah! We’re no longer unusable, just average in terms of effectiveness and wildly outclassed by most other options! epic win for us pyro mains.

[@dragonfell5078]

I remember playing this game mode as a kid, finally we have a tier list

[@del299]

Well holy shit, my friends are gonna be surprised by this one! That's the server I regularly go to and I know a couple of them in the video! Glad you came on by, hope you had fun!

[@enriquezk2012]

Great video, my friend. I'm from Peru and I fondly remember playing this game mode (SF2). I was only 14 years old when I played it, and I spoke little English at that time, but I tried to communicate with different people on the servers. Watching your video made me nostalgic, but most importantly, I learned many things I didn't know, like the advantages each class has and so on. I'll go check if there's still any server active or not. Good luck with your next videos, take care!

[@sydneyclouds.lastandreass6260]

engineer has a brighter flashlight too

[@str4wb3rryjam]

Great video, it's really nice to see people still care about Slender Fortress in general. The points in the video seem pretty solid, although I want to make one honourable mention for the Soldier loadout. For Soldier, you can equip the MG (if you have one) for bosses that has a low base stun HP or is killable after a couple hits. You can crit them by jumping and timing your melee swings right, just like how you would do against real players in a match. However, this makes it really risky since not only are you sacrificing your stamina to run away, you are also providing a greater chance for the boss to catch up to you. Meaning that if you mess up the timing on your swings, you're as good as dead. Bosses like Reapers, Cazador, Kuszo, and Manduco Companions are great examples of killable bosses. Monsoon is the general exception since he's not killable, but can still be crit stunned. So as long as you have the timing, you can pretty much stun him over and over till you run out of stamina. And of course, it's only situational. So you might be better off with EP or DA if you're not great at timing your swings. Also, if you equip the Atomizer for the Scout and then spam your weapon taunt after the black screen fades away, you get some pretty funny results. This works with Boston Basher as well

[@eggfordays3897]

Never realized there were differences between the classes. Cool SFM pics too.

[@shark-kaboom8813]

Maybe a Monster tier list based on how difficult it is to beat them?

[@jukebox581]

I don't think that's necessary when there's a whole butt-ton of bosses in this mode

[@shark-kaboom8813]

@@jukebox581 Yeah I realize that now. I was uninformed.

[@FrankKrol-bb4un]

I think he should do them based on their thickness

[@gleed33]

0:14 The morbin’ month

[@dr.pastor]

Demoman should have the highest priority level. You know why.

[@sr.365]

I'd argue he should have the lowest! You know why.

[@Melonist]

You're all wrong. You know why.

[@dr.pastor]

Its because he's black, and in a horror movie situation.

[@datbanan2717]

@@dr.pastor does this put him on highest or lowest tho

[@allisonthunstrom2340]

@@datbanan2717 highest?? Black people get killed first in horror movies, like every time. Highest priority

[@littlecatfaceboi3072]

Looking back at these multiple year old videos it is so funny that you sound exactly the same as you do in recent videos

[@bigdapramirez6157]

It would be cool if engineer retained the ability to build something useful, like some sort of noise beacon that could distract mosters by mimicing human voicelines or a spinning light that looks like a flashlight from a distance, but the beacon could be destroyed by only a little damage. Even a non functioning dispenser that would serve as a barricade would be better than his small advantage he has now. Also it would be cool if sniper's jarate could either apply a boomer bile like effect to monsters, hampering their visibility for a short duration or if the jarate gave them an outline that was visible through walls to warn nearby teammates. If scout weren't so good already I'd say give him mad milk and make it have a temporary slowdown effect on monsters, though maybe pyro could be given this ability instead with the gas passer to buff him a little.

[@DraconisLeonidas]

It's interesting to see Scout's role in this sort of mode. I fully expected it to be cowardly and such, running away from bosses and being generally a selfish class like Spy, but turns out he's kind of the opposite. Seems like an ideal team is a couple spies focusing on finding what needs to be found with some scouts, demos, and/or snipers (boss dependent) focusing on preoccupying the boss to let the spies do their job.

[@thebirchwoodtree]

The flashlight infuriates me to no end. It just spawns a light source on the thing you're looking at, meaning either you can't see what's close or you have to looks straight at the floor to see

[@androidpoint3798]

If I can change something in this tier list is that I would put demo in S tier and soldier in A because disciplinary action can increase speed pretty decently but the escape plan is amazing for all bosses that can't insta kill and his speed while low is faster when damaged and lower than 40 health can make him faster than demo and even scout Edit: i think a new update happened which makes heavy with the GRU not be reduced to 100 but 270 with mini crit vulnerability which still is very durable and he is as fast as pyro so basically he is better than engineer and pyro

[@bordwithasword]

I swear pyro takes nothing but L’s in community gamemodes

[@fantasticgood5403]

Just wait till you see the other tier lists

[@michaeljo9384]

Nah, Pyro is just overpowered or underpowered and no in between (unless there is a lot of rework like VSH V-script where Hale's stun replaced by charges, stomp and Saxton Punches as CC is frustating for a FPS game). Slender Fortress make pyro have to rely the enemy to deal afterburn damage or vulnerable to fire for Volacno's Fragment be viable, Pyro is nerfed harder than sandman give the boss rage in Freak Fortress for using airblast which can lead to his doom because stunned pyro is basically dead unless übercharged or use specific part enviroment like high grounds to get out, Pyro is overpowered in Zombie Escape because all enemy is melee and flamethrower hard counter melee enemy especially with infinitely regenating ammo all class have and there is barely any flank route in ZE to suprise pyro so pyro always slow zombies down with his flamethowers and can't reach it, Super Zombie Fortress is the most balanced plug-ins as pyro start with his melee and even if flamethower is aquired then the 50% less ammo penalty so spamming it isn't an option, zombies go slightly faster when lit on fire so need for aim is more, and the tank (basically the boss) is immune to his airblast but not making Pyro useless as his flamethower still hard counter melee enemy and obtainable in addition his melee is now useful unlike other plug-ins where most bad weapons just left as is so the Gas Passer explode on ignite and Volcano's Fragment actually not worse than stock Fire Axe as flamethower isn't available at the start of the game and Powerjack's and Axtinguisher 20% damage vulnerabilty and 33% damage penalty is always active unless obtained primary or secondary make it not outshine stock Fire Axe so there is a lot more viable melee to choose from.

[@parispc]

I recently started getting back into Glubbables server. Very nostalgic, I remember being 10 in 2014 and just having the greatest time being jumpscared in TF2 lmao.

[@blacklight683]

Pro tip:if you are playing medic you can use the auto-medic call so you can see anyone who took damage so you know where is the monster,hunter

[@mr_hacks2552]

A goofy little strat is too equip charge n targe for resistance and the caber to get out of corners or get high up

[@thebananaman1185]

I accidentally clicked on this and when I saw the first 2 seconds of the intro, I just sat bewildered at what in the hell I just saw. I now feel obligated to watch this video.

[@dr.pastor]

Another great video, keep up the good work!

[@atwocious]

Love the work that you put into your videos, keep them up!

[@GlassedRanger]

I feel like Heavy should be allowed to carry a lunchbox item in this mode.

[@samuelrodrigues9071]

Hold the fuck up, one of the bosses is an *ARCHVILE?!* **loads super shotgun**

[@dravengarcia8658]

Sam you use a super shotgun and not a katana?

[@sandvicheatfresh]

0:33 that shit is annoying to deal with. even if you killbind before being teleported it respawns you. its bad enough when engis build sentries in spots nearby or demos putting down a shit ton of stickies. spells should be disabled during the wheel being spun. Also have sentries ammo be removed if the wheel teleports players (carnival of carnage is one of the few maps that does).

[@Beam3178]

This is my first time hearing about this game mode and I'm excited to try it out soon. Thanks!

[@dragonfell5078]

Some maps in this game mode allow you to taunt with the Amputator, letting heal people

[@limes_exist]

oh shit i played in a game with you and didn’t realize you made videos, you were really good at sniper lol

[@kat-dy6jc]

if you want other community gamemodes to make a tier list of, check out either engineer fortress or zombie run, engineer fortress is basically where you play against a bunch of engie bots (most times) on red and have to destroy sentries and cap points. For zombie run it's basically where you run around a map, hold a spot for a few minutes against real human player zombies, move onto the next one, repeat, and probably fight a boss

[@mycrits919]

i dont comment very often but yknow what after watching this and your VSH tier list you've inspired me to reinstall the game once more. TF2 is truly eternal

[@daviddavidsonsghost6164]

ngl for the longest time thought this was just a ranking on how skinny the tf2 characters where. glad i clicked out of curiosity.

[@Audi-mk7fy]

For Heavy, I think this should be noted if you can use this weapon in the gamemode, but using the Fists of Steel is bound to even hurt you more because that means Heavy would take even more damage against bosses with melee attacks. I havent played the gamemode, but it seems like most, if not all bosses, deal with melee based attacks or attacks from static damage, none of which classify as “bullet” damage.

[@vikavolt11]

We did it pyros We aren't the worst

[@Tower_Swagman]

6:08 engi soon realized that he shouldn't be looking straight at SCP-096 in the eye, and then engineer died because of SCP-096 lmao

[@dravengarcia8658]

The not just the eyes but the whole face

[@Tower_Swagman]

@@dravengarcia8658 he'd be looking at the face too so...

[@dravengarcia8658]

@@Tower_Swagman I just wanted to sounds smart

[@jamesgaming-kn1zz]

6:55 the iris? omg Gemini home entertainment reference?

[@Zaden_KT]

I always thought that all classes were the same in this gamemode. Huh.. Interesting

[@melonsoldiersucks]

I used to play this gamemode, Medic & Friends server or smth, didn't have to wait 6 years, good ol' times.

[@axl2542]

Great Video, I always wanted to see a class tier list for this gamemode!

[@gymzaal4412]

I thought the video was about how slender each of the mercs are lol. Tier list would still hold up then.

[@Sillyguy1921]

Damn. Found out hoovydundy is in there. Imma play it.

[@megamega2541]

The intro makes me chuckle, it’s good that it’s bad

[@extol2247]

A fellow person that likes the OFF ost?????? damn. never thought I'd hear Avatar Beat in this context. 9/10

[@CheeseGraterToiletPaper]

More youtubers need to make transition images like you do. It makes the video better.

[@donttreadonme123]

bro heavy should at least be able to equip lunchbox item. or just be able to fight back

[@Markus123_]

it would be to op

[@theskeleton8576]

Here's another Heavy challenge. Heavy with the eviction notice.

[@tattut5950]

What would be harder than gru heavy is eviction notice heavy as there isn’t enough speed as the gru

[@crack9014]

I too always rely on sacri- TEAMMATES teammates, I meant teammates

[@zenithzv]

the scariest part about this is the fact that you play slender fortress

[@_altoarcadevere]

This is one of my fave game mode. Glad it gets some attention it deserve

[@_altoarcadevere]

Also i love how father and son are the s tiers in here

[@PriestOfTheHelix]

Interesting fact, while heavy is mostly terrible in almost all aspects, equipping the fists of steel on him does in fact reduce the damage he takes from projectile bosses. It's downside is active as well however, so it by no means makes him good, but it allows him to survive scenarios he wouldn't have been able to otherwise if you have the foresight to know boss intros.

[@thegod9539]

Pyro should get longer in between blinking times because of his mask

[@Oooze3424]

I feel like soldiers gimmick should be that they have a shotgun which would deal no damage and is purely cosmetic because "soldier hiding" is basically a oxymoron, he would fight the monster.

[@unclebucket8210]

Childhood right here, Played this gamemode over Years

[@winksatfriend]

I've played on that server literally on almost every night last month (only stopping for Scream Fortress), I recognize almost everyone in the video lol. It sucks that I missed this party though. :( Although, I MIGHT have seen you online on the server before.

[@rigby1994]

Well Done keep the vids my dude you doing amazing

[@Explodinghairypotatocat]

Ayyy disc ff, I love those servers

[@somesandman8328]

Omg you didn’t need to make go through memory lane like that, man 😭😭😭

[@_the_spy_8867]

At least somewhere Spy is shining as a good class and not fixed to the ground. Yeah, I'm talking to you, Gabe Newell...

[@aperturescienceguy2737]

I didn't know this was a thing until now

[@zakekski]

I actually had no idea each class have their own stats in SF2

[@alienbrianlol]

Heavy isn’t fat, he just has big muscles

[@ihappydawnz]

sandvich

[@TheRealLenin]

sandvich

[@pokeinator7834]

Make you strong!

[@ShockInazuma]

The statue bosses: *teleports behind u* nothing personal, kid

[@srhotty]

tierlist for all gamemodes :kekw: normal tf2 scream fortress vshale slender fortress -freak fortress- (didnt play it, looks like hale but meme) hot air balloon one that i used to play as a kiddin

[@JelloDonatello]

Playing the Submerged Castle in the video has given me PTSD

[@The24thWight]

Neat! I never knew this even existed! Sounds cool.

[@davidklemen5264]

idk why i havent tried this gamemode earlier! it still has a player base and a few servers online so im gonna try it out!

[@TroliFishi]

Aha, like the halloween intro ;)

[@dormitory650]

7:50 avatar beat 😳

[@Bartmaaan]

14:43 Petah, Freddie Freaker is dancing in our livingroom

[@PuddleOfCats]

I have been waiting for this for well not years but might as well say its been for the joke

[@thedarkestdarklink3150]

Is that the ghost ship theme i hear from Legend of Zelda Phantom Hourglass? when youre talking about the monsters

[@Fatsaver]

Do cosmetics like The Second Opinion with built in automatic voice lines make bosses spot you easier?

[@botondzoltannagy8849]

It's sad. Classles update. All classes have same health and stats :((

[@erodot6315]

Idk why they did that since it removes the core concept of TF2, the classes, now this game is more slender than Fortress.

[@dass8193]

I didn't even know classes were any different! I thought they were all the same besides the speed differences!

[@Bcordepic]

SpookyGuyOnline

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Spy kinda broken, he's way too good. The fact he's unnoticeable should've been the only upside he has due to how broken it can be

[@Demon_Lord]

its been 2 or 3 years since i last play on worbe server WELL TIME TO FIND NEW AND PLAY :D

[@freshlypranked]

the list is finally here

[@FanFished]

i love the OFF music it fits for the medic

[@DrMedicsGameSurgery]

Yo was that Avatar beat? Sweet, another OFF fan

[@killerqueen251]

OFF is an old masterpiece

[@zacarnold2970]

Heavy should hsve the highest sprinting speed because a fat Russian man running at mach 10 would be hilarious.