The 'Old Forms Of Aikido'

Clyde Sutton sensei demonstrates how some of the "Old Forms" of Aikido can be adapted for use on larger opponents and how these traditional kata still teach us sound biomechanical principles. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the LIKE button as it helps KZbin recommend us in searches, thank you and PLEASE SUBSCRIBE! / @aikidosilverdale
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[@nikosskeptikos6295]

Clyde always pulls this old school stuff out of the bag and it's astonishing how he remembers it all to be frank. this was a great seminar and this a very cool session

[@dunkenFrancis]

thank you once again to Clyde sensei for a cool session

[@rickdangerfield1183]

a voice of experience, measured and looking to science for a better understanding of what we do. This methodology cant be faulted

[@AIKIDOSILVERDALE]

100%

[@regmullett4899]

very nice stuff Clyde and like the deflection angle focus, important especially for lighter framed people

[@johndavis6119]

Excellent demonstration

[@BoomBoomDeluxe]

totally agree

[@AikiSys]

Great lesson - thanks for sharing 👏👏👏👏👏🙏🏿

[@AIKIDOSILVERDALE]

You are welcome!

[@optimusmaximus9646]

Nice video. I am glad you mentioned one of the most important "rules" and that is to "block at elbows" rather than forearm. I personally wouldn't use the term "blocking" as this implies using force against force, which is not what is encouraged in aikido, but I agree 100% that any connection that is made with the arm after an evasion and/or deflection, it should be at the elbow or higher up. Trying to catch a jab, for example, is pointless as the hand is quickly retracted - as demonstrated in the video it is much better to evade, bridge the gap by closing in on the opponent on their blind side, and make contact higher up the arm and then work your way down to the wrist to facilitate a control and/or throw.

[@nikosskeptikos6295]

I'm glad you used the word 'bridging" its not used much in aikido (totally is in wing chun!) and it would be a helpful semantic for people I think

[@optimusmaximus9646]

@@nikosskeptikos6295 Yes, you are quite right...the term bridging is used more in wing chun but it boils down to the same principle of meeting a strike off the line of attack. Aikido and wing chun share a lot of the same conceptual framework, at least that is what I have found. Cheers from Australia.

[@AIKIDOSILVERDALE]

Thank you - Clyde has a wealth of experience and often highlights aspects like this that have advantages to the lighter framed practitioner

[@optimusmaximus9646]

@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE Indeed. You guys seem to be blessed with martial artist masters for such a small village (going by my references).

[@AIKIDOSILVERDALE]

@optimusmaximus9646 lol we bring in the odd aussie when we can afford the flights, but that's why we started the members dojo so we can try to bring over more international masters.

[@Clarity2020Australia]

interesting to see, ty

[@BoomBoomDeluxe]

Decent physics lesson!

[@BramBramSyailendra]

amazing

[@AIKIDOSILVERDALE]

glad you found it interesting Bram!

[@BramBramSyailendra]

I learned pist war aikikai aikido...glad to see this old foem aikido..looking forward tonsee the inpirtant of atemi in old aikido

[@AIKIDOSILVERDALE]

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[@hattorihanzo3688]

The proof that even old kata have relevance if you search for the lessons within.

[@RetrogasmicPodcast]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@ddturnerphd]

Control the head!

[@CarlaCasteneda]

... and you control the body!

[@AikiCircus]

Actually, when we look at "classical" Aikikai masters like Tissier or Gouttard, they also immediately load one of the uke's legs at the moment of the contact.

[@AIKIDOSILVERDALE]

yes! Taking kuzushi is a core principle of all grappling

[@tonis563]

I'm sorry i don't see anything particular different or old school in this guy's performance

[@nikosskeptikos6295]

Don't be sorry! maybe you just have been exposed to more traditional Aikido? The 90 degree blocking thing is def more of a 1970's era vibe for sure

[@Eternaprimavera73]

​@@nikosskeptikos6295maybe in Saito Aikido or Yamaguchi aikido didnt you already see this aspect?

[@CarlaCasteneda]

@@Eternaprimavera73 I trained with Saito sensei a few times at iwama and indeed he often talked about the angle of the block, controlling the head etc, but this has lost favour it seems in the "modern flow Aikido"

[@Eternaprimavera73]

@@CarlaCasteneda I am very skeptic on what the teachers try to sell. But it is even more fun when people rediscover something which has been always there, and then they say they modernize things with that... By the way, just to be clear, I don't believe that Saito really knew everything of Ueshiba s aikido. I also trained with Saito s son. and I saw the videos with Morihiro sensei. He can tell whatever, but his movements many times are visibly different from Ueshiba.

[@CarlaCasteneda]

@@Eternaprimavera73 I trained and live with Saito, not his son, but you are correct Saito move differently to o sensei in many ways. Everyone moves differently. By the time o sensei was in his later life he was most probably suffering from mental illness because his behavior was increasingly erratic, and his ukes were just falling over for him out of respect. Saito, Tohei, and shioda were more responsible for the development of aikido than o sense was in his later years I feel.

[@edihansreizner7751]

Zanshin refers to a physical and mental state of increased vigilance, mindfulness, attention and concentration not only, but especially in combat situations, even after a successful attack. Here an attempt is made to present the old form by having the tori stand there in the landscape as ordered and not picked up. An old form without Zanshin is unthinkable! Not a successful presentation!👎🏻⛩️

[@nikosskeptikos6295]

hmm, kinda agree, but looking at this the focus seemed to be on the angles of the block loading the front foot and redirection, and he spent a lot of time breaking that down. If the uke had been "active" it would have been very difficult for the instructor to get his point across, no?

[@Eternaprimavera73]

When you have to do more than two movements to load one of the opponent s legs, he will be already doing something else. ​@@nikosskeptikos6295

[@jimmyjudo3559]

Very cool

[@nikosskeptikos6295]

Agree, isnt it nice to see some of the details from way back highlighted, nice to see different perspectives.