The Old Question Nobody Has Been Able to Answer

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[@Thoughty2]

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[@rollzeether]

Ok

[@indibiningingman6510]

No problem.

[@seaurchin3895]

Yes

[@lemfrl]

Yes

[@chaga1037]

yeahh

[@blackfyre8837]

“To be is to do" -Socrates. “To do is to be”-Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”-Scooby Doo.

[@jerrydempsey3490]

Do be do be do... Frank Sinatra

[@blackfyre8837]

@@jerrydempsey3490 isn't he a singer?

[@keineahnung6124]

Do be or not do be , Hamlet 😝😝

[@TardMania]

"Hotel?"- Trivago

[@baldeagle5297]

"Yabba Dabba Doo." Fred Flintstone

[@jackdurden466]

There’s an episode of Family Guy that Peter and Chris go on a “spiritual quest” into the woods and when they stop to rest, one of them asks, “Hey, if a tree falls and no ones around, does it make a sound?” To which all of the now talking trees answer, “Oh hell yes, Scott fell the other day and hasn’t stopped bitching about it since.” Then the trees play the worlds smallest violin. Hilarious. 😂

[@goosebxmps]

I just found it on KZbin and it’s the funniest thing I’ve seen all day lmao thank u for this

[@jackdurden466]

@@goosebxmps Heyyyy, Long live the Fonz! Glad you enjoyed it as much as I did!

[@asanoodle1164]

@@mnassif3809 hey p e t e r

[@shamiwancrespin1554]

Your Classical man👏👏👏 Love that Show

[@iraklimgaloblishvili7047]

God is about belief, Unconditional love. not about covid and suck a low stuff.

[@Ajswindowshelper]

Damn, that putin bit aged real well...

[@tgbluewolf]

The whole "if a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound?" thing has always annoyed me; even without the plants "hearing" as it were, the animals still hear trees fall.

[@TheMidnightLibrary]

It’s not about “hearing” it. The sound of the tree falling is completely independent of an observer.

[@Dio-vt1qt]

For me the thing that annoyed me with these kinds of theories is that it's pretty much a self centered act. As if you are thr center of the universe, when in truth the world just moves on regardless of your existence

[@TheMidnightLibrary]

@@Dio-vt1qt exactly. The universe would continue on even if all life on Earth went extinct right now. To think otherwise is just arrogant lmfao.

[@johndownes3528]

@@TheMidnightLibrary you would never know

[@MajorHenryL]

@@johndownes3528 someone being there to be aware of it does not change the laws of physics. None of us have ever seen a dinosaur yet we know they existed. Edit: yes perception determines reality, but just your reality. The rest of the universe doen't care.

[@franciscoguinledebarros4429]

"they don't make a sound, they vibrate the air" Yeah, and I don't run, I walk fast with one foot at a time

[@Tony32]

Running is actually a controlled fall.

[@ultimatelifeform7982]

@@Tony32 falling with style?

[@RadenWA]

You are also time traveling, forward about one second per step

[@FastForwardPlans]

@@Tony32 Running is just falling and missing the ground because a foot got in the way.

[@diecastworld7962]

😂 lol true very true if he says if a rock is hitted and the person feels pain it's just the feeling then guess what why are people able to see the wound and the same stone also if one tree falls and no one hears it then it doesn't exist then what about the person who saw it in future standing and later didn't found it then eventually realised it has fallen then he would probably say that the tree and the fallen tree are different lol 🤣 if he says so why can't I tell my friends that they don't exist

[@ProfessorSprouts]

If perception was reality, then my fridge would always have beer.

[@christinekaye6393]

Ha ha! My version: Perception is reality--until you learn otherwise.

[@Davey-Boyd]

But my fridge always has beer

[@OneJohnFiveTwelve]

"Would always have beer". But perhaps, on those rare occasions that it doesn't, its because your thirst is larger than life? Mmm? 😁

[@Davey-Boyd]

@@OneJohnFiveTwelve Always stock up before you finish the last batch. Proper planning and preparation prevents piss poor performance - and getting sober.

[@shamiwancrespin1554]

How many like could I give this!!!!🤜🤛

[@o8oo0880oo8o]

This is basically how I felt without smell and taste during Covid. It's near impossible to describe the loss and I never even really thought about the functions until they were gone.

[@alicewilloughby4318]

6:08 - I dunno; this idea that if a human being isn't there to perceive something it doesn't exist sounds like someone had a pretty inflated idea of mankind's importance. 9:39 - If a tree falls in the forest, it sends out sound waves, whether anyone is there to perceive them or not. 10:57 - I stand by my answer! 15:05 -Now that's amazing!

[@tgbluewolf]

@Atman Gotango Then why isn't reality perfect? Few people would create problems for themselves, suffering, etc.

[@richardtherichard26]

I agree completely with your point about the tree. It is still moving the air waves that would produce the sound of someone was there too perceive it. Therefore yes the sound exists.

[@TheExigency]

@@richardtherichard26 You're right the air would still get displaced but in order for a sound specifically to happen there HAS to be something to percieve it. The sensation that is produced by stimulation of the ears by vibrations transmitted through any medium; that is the definition of a sound. The energy produced and oscillation of the medium around it will happen no matter what, I think that's where people are getting confused.

[@The1stDukeDroklar]

@@tgbluewolf Do you like playing video games in god mode with no challenge or anything unexpected? Are your dreams perfect places?

[@The1stDukeDroklar]

@@richardtherichard26 Incorrect. The vibrations exist but the word sound defines the experience of those vibrations going through an ear, sending signals to a brain, and the brain interpreting those signals and then presenting the information to our consciousness as what we call sound. Vibrations are not "sound".

[@fromulus]

When that piano played before the words, it sounded like a person talking, then the words were added and my mind was blown.

[@robertstone9988]

Yeah I wasn't watching the video I was just listening to it and I could hear people talking it sound like someone talking in another room you couldn't make out words but it sounded like people's voices. When you said it sounds like a cat stuck in a piano I was thinking to myself but it sounds like a bunch of people talking behind a wall.

[@ryanbond1357]

I think I saw the piano, and expected to hear typical notes from a piano, and my brain removed the distorted background noise. When the words were added, I heard the voice. I think I died a little.

[@mezdm4010]

I wasn't that shocked because you spoiled it with your comment.

[@SilverVolo]

Rest in pieces then

[@nannettefreeman7331]

In human beings, our visual perceptions override what we hear. Check out one of the many videos about the McGurk Effect & prepare to have your mind blown 🤯 again!

[@shiy33]

I swear sometimes he switches to “42 here” and just doesn’t want us to know

[@xcrementlord6779]

the answer to everyting

[@drowningin]

Let me see you nekkie NOW

[@morganstarchild5359]

I think that as well 😂

[@medexamtoolsdotcom]

It always says 42 when I put on the subtitles in his videos so he's just trying to screw with you by pretending otherwise in the first place.

[@yesterdaydream]

I hear it that way every time.

[@Ronzert]

Great videos, man. They give you a whole new perspective on reality, not just this one, but all of yours in general.

[@richardbspeck147]

Thanx Thoughty2, that was a great "discussional video" I'm so glad for your content.! My brain is a complete "grey sludge" after a 38hr working week & you always put me back on track. Keep up the good work.

[@eggstu]

The age old question, "What happened to Thoughty 1?"

[@ExplorationRandomDestination]

Based on the documentary dragon ball z he is an Android that absorbed the first one

[@Kingtrollface259]

@@ExplorationRandomDestination nice reference lol

[@pauldavidson4977]

Thoughty 1 is hiding from Thoughty 2 the doppelganger.

[@dominiclavoie7612]

where’s thoughty 3?

[@EldestZelot]

@@dominiclavoie7612 He's a communist, we don't talk about him.

[@sarahbums]

ahh, yes: the biggest philosophical question in History: What Will the Final Title of this Video be?

[@R2D2Mincraft]

I was like tf why the title change 😂

[@qjames0077]

Already lost lol

[@smokingrabbit7029]

Yea... This happens with every video

[@4444panther]

Mandela effect lol

[@brunomendes4607]

it changed... again... for the 3rd time now

[@cdtunca86]

Oh my Dear Thoughty, the picture of King Henry VIII's wife that you used was not Katherine Howard, it was Jane Seymour. She was his second and only wife that Henry "truly adored" throughout his tyrannical reign because she died in childbirth....if you call that love.

[@henrijs1733]

You explained it pretty well. About the Copenhagen thingie: we humans use nightvision in a green tint, meaning that we can see the slight differences of green in darkness much easier than red for example. The reason for that is because our eyes evolved to see predators in the jungle easier. So, everyone's green is the same green. Also, plants are green for a reason too. :)

[@AzazelSanteros]

As well as the fact that we have evolved to see more shades of green than any other color due to the abundance of plant life on our planet.

[@shaneannigans]

Cannot wait to declare "I refute it thus!" as a rebuttal in my next argument.

[@TheBlackAxe1]

Once refuted, does the argument still exist?

[@daphenomenalz4100]

@@TheBlackAxe1 :0

[@Vix2066]

They don't make em like this anymore folks. We must protect this man and his channel at all costs😭💜

[@rossmullett2998]

A national treasure. You learn so much.

[@isefomfise]

@@rossmullett2998 You learn so many useless facts is literally what his description for his channel is

[@FARHANKHAND-id9bx]

@@isefomfise So go read your biology textbook kid.

[@tonyrobinson3744]

fascinating guy Mr. Lomas...His book is awesome. Read it with his voice in your head and you'll love it. Its funny and interesting.

[@bluelivesmatter8502]

They still do. You have to be willing to look.

[@we4r119]

Your videos are brilliant. I thoroughly enjoy everyone I watch. Your erase arch is excellent and I love their composition. You present them in a way that makes them look easy, but there is a tremendous amount of work in each. Thank you for taking the time to make them. - they're fascinating.

[@bdawg317]

This channel and Mr. Ballen are my 2 favorite KZbin channels as of now. Mr Ballen tells stories very well (sometimes forgets certain details) and thoughty covers more topics and has way more details. Gonna become a patron soon

[@intenselytired9966]

I think the real question nobody has answered is, “What the dog doin?”

[@mobslayer3168]

There's a book called, what the dog did I think you should read

[@Joystickoperator]

sheeeesh

[@iamgroot4080]

Right now is just shitting on Your lawn 💩

[@hey7016]

A rather mundane activity

[@maximusgladi8or]

pretty obvious the dog is trying to get a mint.

[@eskanderx1027]

"If a man speaks up his mind in the woods and no women heard him, is he still wrong?" 🤔

[@davidcruz8667]

Yes, of course. But being as we're alone when we do it, we get to enjoy the illusion that we are right, since no women were there to correct us. I'd call that idealism.

[@fawniacaulford9448]

If a man agrees the woman is right but a man is considered always wrong wouldn't that make the woman wrong if the man is saying shes right?

[@michaelgreene7385]

Of course.... everyone knows that.....

[@eskanderx1027]

@@fawniacaulford9448 If I say that you're right, will it make you wrong? 😵

[@susanivy3619]

Of course he is...he's a man, being wrong is independent from our female observation of the fact.

[@suniabunia8456]

Thanks for the video! These are exactly the questions I've been asking myself. But well, at the end of the day, we must carry on with our lives and not give it too much thought:)

[@skityskits2254]

Keeps loves 42 so much every other video is sponsored by keeps, but they keep these videos coming so I'm not complaining

[@doodlebugugg]

As a fallen tree myself, can confirm

[@juliolp95]

It's true, i was the forest

[@weebnation3904]

It's true i was a bird in the tree

[@devremake]

It’s true, I was, no I still am the now flat squirrel.

[@BodyMusicification]

It's false, these are KZbin comments

[@annespacedroid]

Weak stem?

[@lool8421]

when the tree falls, it just vibrates it becomes a sound when that wave reaches you, and it always does, but it might be so weak, that you won't ever notice it

[@humboldthammer]

Can you hear me now? There really is no 'here' here, ya hear? I am a scribble on the sub-stream wall. Graffiti. Much like you. And these are the Sounds of Silence. And the sign flashed out its WAR ning

[@Tore_Lund]

"Sound" is defined as something being heard, so the question is not entirely stupid.

[@alanpaulsen7776]

A sound has to be recieved by an observer or else it does not make sound.

[@alrightgeeze]

​@@alanpaulsen7776what if you was next to the tree and heard it while I on the other side of the world didn't know it ever happened. Does it exist to me still or just to you? Aka the question is a load of wank just like majority of philosophy. I almost find it insulting to a greater power to suggest our own perceptions is what dictates whether their creating is real or not.

[@maartenneppelenbroek]

Well, it makes something.@@alanpaulsen7776

[@Tyciess]

4:03 well that’s funny 🤣

[@yellow-moon4890]

I figured this out as a kid and till this day I am proud I had this conversation this with my very smart dad!

[@brunomendes4607]

chocolate pizza is the best kind of pizza

[@rmcod5743]

Ooh title changed 😂

[@brunomendes4607]

@@rmcod5743 dang

[@isefomfise]

@@rmcod5743 OH MY GOD THE TITLE CHANGED I SEE YOU HAVE 2000+ IQ MATE

[@thesauce1682]

@@rmcod5743 What was the previous title?

[@brunomendes4607]

@@thesauce1682 the first sentence of my comment

[@thedimensionalcat]

It’s interesting how the philosopher conditions everything around us to the human perception. By that conclusion, nothing would exist without us, which theoretically creates an existential paradox since, well.. we are not the beginning of things. Before the first conscious human, what then kept things a reality? Better yet, before consciousness, what was? I really love this subject.

[@olivenkranz]

not all philosophical schools are like this btw :)

[@paulineerwin7685]

I totally agree with you Cairo , I find all of this topic utterly fascinating 🧐

[@thewackywizard2049]

I love Phil. Too! I would say although your point is right, perception is the differential. A differing beings senses, say a human to a cat, would hear the sound differently, so before humans, most things wouldn’t have been perceived in the form as we perceive them. (Didn’t watch the vid before I commented by the way, but yes, 42 summed it up well!)

[@pauldavidson4977]

The paradox disappears if you believe that there is, and always was a universal consciousness. I have to this point, come to favor a universal consciousness that we are also part of, due in part to the theory behind the double slit experiments.

[@thewackywizard2049]

@@pauldavidson4977 elaborate please why the experiment brought you to that conclusion. I also believe in a universal consciousness (I call it God), but although I am familiar with the experiment, I cannot deduce your reasoning. Thanks

[@molek5823]

Great video for explaining the unexplainable!

[@BlackJ007]

One of your most interesting episodes, Thank you

[@elic1356]

OG title: "If a tree falls does it make a sound?" Title as of right now: "The old question nobody has been able to answer."

[@Mr-Money01]

Why does he always change his title. I'm starting to think it is just to get people to comment what his old title was so he gets more comments and therefore gets more views on the algotithm

[@zrazghost]

i cant find the question through all of the rhetoric

[@jovaniromo8481]

@@Mr-Money01 a lot of KZbinrs tend to do this, sometimes they make the title more clickbaity so that more people click on the video

[@diabetus115]

Honestly if that’s the case that’s a good idea

[@onemorechris]

@@jovaniromo8481 you can get software to change titles and thumbnails based on tests: if the first title is deemed to have failed, try the second title.

[@charlieevergreen3514]

I disagree with conflating “sound” and “hearing”. Sound is the vibration of the physical world, and hearing is an interpretation of that vibration. A falling tree produces sound, regardless of witnesses, who may or may not hear it.

[@chraiflame6631]

The words "sound" and "hearing" are just fuzzy human concepts. Their meaning is not universal, they are subject to the interpretation of the individual. For you "hearing" is the act of translating vibration, but for others it might simply denote the ability to translate vibrations. For someone who speaks a different language it might be yet another thing. It's just semantics so arguing about it is a bit futile.

[@charlieevergreen3514]

@@chraiflame6631 Hey! Yes, it’s true that terms can mean different things, but my real point is that there are (at least) TWO phenomena here: the vibration of the air, and the perception of it by a mind. Using different words for the two makes the conversation more useful, even if someone would prefer different terms from the ones I would use. The video sort of lumps them together, and I feel like that’s kind of inaccurate. But you’re right, terms can vary between people and places.

[@waynemcleod6767]

Semantics.

[@baruchben-david4196]

But you're missing the whole point. The question is basically, if some event cannot be perceived, can it be said to have taken place?

[@charlieevergreen3514]

@@baruchben-david4196 I understand the point. Personally, I think that Solipsists don’t exist when I can’t see them, but everything else physical is certainly existing, unless all of our observations of the world are literally contrivances. I don’t assume we are living in the Matrix, or that the entire universe is in service to my mind.

[@argspirit42069]

This is my all time favorite thoughty² video of all time. I've watched it like 10 times.

[@robertcronin6603]

"If a woman spoke in the forest and no one was there to hear her, would her husband still be wrong?"

[@thedragonlee76]

Her husband is NEVER wrong...lol!

[@likearockcm]

If the tree has the potential to be heard then it indeed makes a sound.

[@spiritfingers98]

What level of consciousness does a tree have to detect sound waves. Iis a tree conscious of it's own fall or the fall of it's neighbour.

[@diamand5916]

obviously it won’t make any noise when anyone’s around to save the simulation some processing power, that would be a shit ton of mp3 files of trees falling going to waste

[@xvieternal3352]

the egg came before the chicken because dinosaurs laid eggs too

[@chanceDdog2009]

@@xvieternal3352 there is no spoon

[@chanceDdog2009]

@@xvieternal3352 because it's a fork

[@AR-we6tn]

Thoughty2 deserves more subscribers and viewers.... This Channel can educate a lot of people with the perception of understanding the fundamentals of life and reality

[@michaelcoast1216]

This us definitely one of if not the most mind expanding video I've watched.

[@judithhope8970]

So if I don't perceive the bird's flying overhead, the poo on my car isn't really there? Thanks for these videos, they're always so interesting and well told. Now I don't need to clean my car...

[@Vivek-io3gj]

You still perceive the poop

[@Lerium]

Damn that title changed quickly! The original title was called - If a Tree falls Does it Make a Sound?

[@isefomfise]

Ok give this man a nobel prize for his 2000+ IQ

[@killeralltires]

@@isefomfise 2000 likes should suffice instead

[@89xixsem89]

Why does he change the title every time he uploads?

[@kvelez]

I've noticed that in this channel there's always someone who is in charge of telling what the original name of the video was. I arrived some months ago, and was wondering if that thing of telling the original name was something that Arran asked for from those, who were part of the community? Just had the doubt.

[@evanhall06]

@@89xixsem89 because he can?

[@PekkaMerikukka]

I'm convinced that dandelions hear my lawnmower running and dock for cover to not to be cut.

[@TheRealSpecder]

the putin joke at the beginning aged pretty well

[@kaoskronostyche9939]

The question is not "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it still make a sound" but rather "if a man speaks his truth in the forest with no woman to hear him, IS HE STILL WRONG." THAT is the question.

[@jonathanpasch6604]

I always thought the question started "If a bear sh ts in the woods..."

[@RogueJyn]

..and no one is around, does the shit make a sound?

[@mallen6783]

Does it smell?

[@cjdfv]

I always thought it was "Chris, what the fuck?!"

[@melissadwiggins]

Yeah there is that one too but the other one is also a saying.

[@peterpike]

That question is, "Does a bear sh*t in the woods?" implying an obvious "yes." As in, "Do you want a million dollars?" "Does a bear sh*t in the woods?"

[@Boudica1313]

When I was 12, I was fishing by myself on a small pond behind my house. I had been there, alone and making few movements and no noise for about 3 hours. Suddenly, movement in the woods caught my eye and I watched with my mouth hanging open as a small, healthy looking green tree fell without making a single sound. I had heard that question/thought experiment before and knew 100% in my 12 year old mind at that moment that no…. if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, it does not make a sound. I knew this because apparently they also do not make a sound if they just think they are alone. Ha!

[@bgee461]

Best comment yet 👌

[@Enmos]

Maybe you just dont exist.

[@Boudica1313]

@@Enmos Hahaha! There’s actually a little science that suggests none of us exist outside our own minds. Soooo….

[@Syphirioth]

Great video. And great subject. In my opinion this information should be globalised as fundamental knowledge. These vibrations are at the basics of everything we know.

[@oliversherman2414]

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

[@nikosdikaioulakos6961]

Socrates been really quiet since this video dropped

[@kanakattack4408]

he's been quiet since 399 BC

[@mickeykearney935]

@aang love the last Airbender

[@theRhinsRanger]

Legend has it , when Thoughty2 first started out he couldnt grow a moustache, thats untill he tried Keeps!

[@charleydublin7304]

“Embark on such a…” brilliant!

[@skyhigh5760]

cool episode! as a philosophy student this was a pretty nice, your information and explanation was really wel done!

[@quichawnabryant]

“If a tree falls in a forest…” that setup requires the expectation that “There is a tree in a forest.” So, you can’t then say, “No, because there’s no tree.”

[@bradleyfreeman9220]

Just gonna leave this here: Forest | Definition of Forest by Merriam ... 1 : a dense growth of trees and underbrush covering a large tract A fire destroyed acres of forest. · 2 : a tract of wooded land in England formerly owned by the ...

[@Lumina_Solaris]

@@bradleyfreeman9220 is that not why OP stated that you cannot claim that there is no tree? Because a forest must, by definition, have trees? Perhaps I missed something

[@OldSchool82]

bradley freeman this is all too much for you.

[@hristoborisov3713]

How do you do this so well, every video is so interesting! You are so inspiring!

[@Beyz091]

He looks so gentle and his voice is so satisfying. Just a perfect ytber

[@oneminutefixed5003]

British accent makes everything sound nice

[@viktorianas]

Moustache. 〰️

[@japhetmnyeta1076]

Bro you always give us nice tutorials.Thanks

[@toddkurzbard]

Here is the REAL question nobody has been able to answer: "When R2D2 and C-3PO are traversing the hallway of the blockade runner, how is it that, with all the blaster fire coming off between the stormtroopers and the rebels, they never ONCE get hit by blaster fire?"

[@ermacjones4821]

Oh, that's just plot armor💁🏻‍♀️ Or you could call it "the luck of heroes", it sounds cooler I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@toddkurzbard]

@@ermacjones4821 I have another one: In the opening of ROTS, as the opening title recedes and disappears, the first thing we see is the star destroyer. It is COMPLETELY Quiet, NO ships or battle around, yet, after Anakin and Obi-Wan swoop over it, which is really only a few seconds later, there is a full-scale battle where there was none just SECONDS before. How did a major, well-in-progress skirmish just happen to appear in a few seconds from nothing?

[@will2Collett]

I'm getting a head ache - you wont understand. Philosophers are OUT OF THEIR MINDS.

[@randenrichards5461]

We still have it to this day, what is the difference between this and the simulation theory, but one thinks the rock isn’t there because it’s a simulation.

[@NikkedTruth]

Not really. I can give you an even simpler example I've pondered for a while: If something needs to produce a sound for me to hear it, and something must be present for me to see it, then how come in my dreams I can see and hear anything; even things I have not experienced?

[@neilcreamer8207]

@@NikkedTruth You are experiencing things in your dreams.

[@NikkedTruth]

@@neilcreamer8207 you are correct, however my point is that during dreams I am not interacting with the physical world, and yet I can have the same experiences and more. With that in mind, who is to say that what we call reality isn't mostly the construct of your brain?

[@loanianderson1978]

Literally 🧠

[@zacsappenfield7895]

Descartes work was “Meditations” rather than “Mediations”. Love your channel.

[@eddietowers5595]

"If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" This is like saying, "if I didn't experience it, it didn't happen." Yes. Yes it does. My uncle had a GardePro trail cam placed in the woods of his 8 acre farm, at the time, loving to catch nature in their natural settings (wild turkeys, deer, skunks, racoons and opossums) when one morning his trail camera caught an old dead maple tree fall, and though we caught about 3 feet of the top of the tree land 15-20 feet from the trail cam, after seeing the downed tree, walking out to routinely check on the trail cam, we wanted to see if we caught when the tree fell, and lo and behold we did...though we only got the top of the the 30 foot tree, the video caught the noises before and after the tree landed. First, There was a very loud crack, like a large fire cracker then a loud sweeping sound when the tree fell through other neighboring trees and a loud thud when it landed, shaking the trail cam, too. So, technically or officially, no one was around. I'm trying to find this video to share it, here. To Prove no one was around and it still made a noise.

[@ThePuschkin1986]

but the 'sound' the tree made was only there because that trail cam had a sound recording device, similar to the human ear it senses vibration in the air and transmits or stores that information as an electrical signal. when you review the footage, that electrical signal is displayed through speakers which turn it to air vibrations again, which in turn your ear can perceive and send that information to your brain which interpretes it as 'sound'

[@eddietowers5595]

@@ThePuschkin1986 I understand that but still, no one was around, implying no human was ever present. This particular philosophy is but purposely an intelligent kind game and somewhat a play in thinking where when one first hears it, it’s mind blowing but actually isn’t because the world or sound obviously never is silent just humans aren’t around to hear it. They’re simply just not around when these particular vibrations crack the air.. if it ain’t broke don’t try to fix it, kinda thing.

[@eddietowers5595]

@@ThePuschkin1986 I understand that but still, no one was around, implying no human was ever present. This particular philosophy is but purposely an intelligent mind game and somewhat a play in thinking where when one first hears it, it’s mind blowing but actually isn’t because the world or sound obviously never is silent just humans aren’t around to hear it. They’re simply just not around when these particular vibrations crack the air.. if it ain’t broke don’t try to fix it, kinda thing.

[@ryanblack2986]

Yes! some one else finally said what I always say. It would make a noise. A sound is how it is perceived after someone hears it. Just my theory.

[@kimberlylamantia7794]

My veggies grow better while listening to Thoughty 2. Facts. ❤

[@Dakotako]

As a Texan, hearing “tree feller” was pretty funny. Feller is our general term for a guy so I imagined a tree person.

[@myst._.ical.]

Same 😂

[@sillygirl1139]

Same in England too.. fella is also a guy.

[@blackaporo5581]

Me watching this in midnight until he brings up the “horror film”

[@tylerthompson5859]

"The Old Question Nobody Has Been Able To Solve" Me, in my head: "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? Oh I've got to hear this!" I absolutely love your channel. I can't get enough of the content.

[@ericanelson1973]

He'd chuck all the wood that a woodchuck could if a woodchuck could chuck wood!

[@ermacjones4821]

That's honestly a lot less stupid than the actual question in this video💁🏻‍♀️

[@katiesiouxlamoureaux7757]

Love this one!

[@ConquerYou]

If my girlfriend lifts $20 out of my wallet, but I don’t observe her doing it, am I still down $20?

[@annangela3998]

Yes... Yes you are.

[@essi2]

With your consent? Yes. Without your consent? No, you are the victim of a crime and owed compensation!

[@juliussiegfeld8181]

Only if you check your wallet. In all moments you don't check you wallet, you have no money at all.

[@whiskeyandwinddowns7381]

@@juliussiegfeld8181 Great answer 🤣

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

No, it reset everytime you look into your wallet

[@instaspy509]

I LOVE YOUR CONTENT SO MUCH!

[@devinconn8097]

Love this philosophical video

[@wraps777]

"When a pilot presses a button on the console of their Stealth Fighter, the jet becomes invisible. " - D.T.

[@snarflcat6187]

Holy Shit, Rly? I need to.find that quote...for my book... ÷)

[@snarflcat6187]

Some1 should give him a body camera...but TELL him that its a stealth generator taken off a stealth fighter. Just press this button, and you.can do whatever you want...you'll be invisible...we PROMISE.

[@allanc803]

@@snarflcat6187 I am so sorry, but I can't push the thumbs up button enough. (For the best reply) :)

[@exclamation.]

this is honestly one of my favourite videos on yt love the rabbit hole of questions you end up going through just by talking about a falling tree

[@rift2568]

4:08 AGED LIKE FINE WINE LOOOL

[@philismint88]

I listened to this in the background, whilst doing some editing work; sort of like you would a podcast. I did not see the words on the screen at the part with the digital piano, yet I did hear the words (most of them, anyway). I therefore deduce that this particular piece of audio does in fact include those words and it is not just down to visual perception influencing the brain.

[@tristonmccleskey7039]

Thoughty you are seriously THE BEST at breaking down the understand of these ideas. Just making them more malleable is so nice it made this video one of my favorite, but it’s hard to have a favorite when there so much to have interest in.😁👍🏼

[@humboldthammer]

Roddenberry's Next Generation introduced Ensign Barkley -- a rather quirkish genius with the holodeck -- he created his own holo-lab -- and later, Commander Barkley was responsible for bringing Voyager and Captain Jane home 376 years early. hint: Based on the Irish Philosopher's Idealism

[@hueyiroquois3839]

"Of course it does. And the bigger the tree, the bigger the sound." --- Reverend Jim

[@garythemanhunter2228]

Ibbi da

[@ahashdahnagila6884]

@@garythemanhunter2228 You trying to speak Iroquois?

[@pathologicalliar8728]

that achually makes sense as the Reverend would undoubltly believe God perceives everything thus the Tree always makes a sound, in fact. this would be the bridge between idealism and materialism. Ironically.

[@betacam235]

@@pathologicalliar8728 'Post Materialism' is the way forward!

[@Durzo1259]

Something about that headline at 4:03, "Putin Upsets Everyone Again" - I just cracked up. 😂 😂 😂

[@EnryR93]

Yes it creates a sound, depending on how intense the release of energy the sound waves will travel further until it's perceived by a sound perceiving device if strong enough waves. Like a tunder sometime you don't see the light, but hear the sound.

[@MrJC1]

Short answer: yes it does. 🤣

[@RobeonMew]

No it doesn't. Sound is a reception of frequency. If there are no ears listening, then the tree made no sound.

[@darksideblues135]

Short answer, no it doesn’t. It created atmospheric pressure changed that would require a living organism to have the right sensors, ears, to take the pressure modulation and interpret the modulation as sound.

[@RobeonMew]

10:00 - he didn't watch the video

[@RobeonMew]

@Truth is here then it made a sound

[@RobeonMew]

@Truth is here That's the argument. if NO ears perceive it, then it made no sound.

[@DjoumyDjoums]

The Copenhagen interpretation relates to the collapse of the wave function whenever a measurement/interaction happens, it doesn't say we all live in our own universe.

[@Syphirioth]

Well the waveform is only visible when particles are moving. As soon as you stop the movement the waveform is still there. But you no longer are able to observe that. The same way a picture doesnt say shit about what happened before and after the moment that picture was taken. Also the moment we measure something we are pinpoiting a moment in time. Whatever we observe or measure is in that moment alone. Also recording does not count as something usefull. Cause those are frames per second. All moments in time after eachother. We simply not able to observe anything else then moments/points in time.

[@hnks6862]

@@Syphirioth this reminds me of something I read ones stating time doesn't exist as we perceive it but only a constant state of existence.

[@Syphirioth]

@@hnks6862 Ye I think thats another way to look at it.

[@normanclatcher]

The Copenhagen interpretation only works if you don't look at it too closely...

[@mancsakacarl]

awesome video mate.

[@MordethKai]

“One of the recurring philosophical questions is: "Does a falling tree in the forest make a sound when there is no one to hear?" Which says something about the nature of philosophers, because there is always someone in a forest. It may only be a badger, wondering what that cracking noise was, or a squirrel a bit puzzled by all the scenery going upwards, but someone.” ― Terry Pratchett

[@jeremyallen9624]

There's also the double slit experiment which shows that, rather than us perceiving reality because it exists, reality exists because we perceive it. Praise be to the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

[@guywithjeep]

Ramen

[@lucaswiseman1259]

Thoughty2: "The old question nobody has been able to answer" Me: do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?

[@rockymolina8912]

Great stuff.

[@Zombiemma88]

Holy my brain has imploded on itself on the this concept jeeeeeez

[@alexwoodhead6471]

LOVING this type of content!!! don't enjoy the "history" heavy/dominant videos, but these science videos are great!

[@DereliqueMahBAWLS]

Well it’s a good thing he makes videos for everyone and not just you!

[@alexwoodhead6471]

@@DereliqueMahBAWLS oooff! was only giving him praise, damn! XD

[@EyesOfByes]

19:12 *Cutting trees gave him wood*

[@kabeloalbert8646]

As I keep watching this video the more I realise you only see/hear/feel things only if you are aware of them... A tree can fall behind you and you won't hear it if you are focused on something else

[@KennethGottfried]

Love this.

[@michaelw.2653]

One of your best episodes (and I've been watching your work since many years).

[@egggge4752]

Its one of the worst. He mis-uses multiple philosophical terms or confuses them with each other. Read an article about Descartes and Berkeley and Solipsism and you will be baffled how he butchers the concept. You literally can't understand Schopenhauer or Hegel if you dont understand the problem of solipsism.

[@wtfgebeurdmij2991]

I think it is great as well. Pretty deep and heavy subjects but still presented in a 'light' way so you dont feel depressed after watching. For that feeling i suggest Vsauce hihi

[@Willam_J]

If a man says something, and his wife isn’t there to hear it, is he still wrong? 😆

[@sausage4mash]

always

[@jackdurden466]

@@sausage4mash of course! That’s a silly question.

[@kingpinoutlow8105]

🤔

[@johnnysparks3417]

Yes.

[@johnnysparks3417]

@@kingpinoutlow8105 you must not be married.

[@jacocoetzee6429]

That piano I had to legit rewind to the ones without words to verify XD that is crazyyy

[@wallaceOne5900]

What a thrilling experience I had having more light shed on the basis of idealism and the question none could give a satisfying answer to,not until psychoacoustics that is.Thanks a million thoughty 2 for another great journey back in time and back to the present.It did prove to me beyond doubt that the perspective from which idealism approached the problem of existence wasn't as flagrantly irrational as I once thought it was.In fact,now I know its pioneer was actually doing laudable lateral thinking by proposing such a theory.However,I got stumped on the way back to our contemporary opinion on the old problem with a question that came to mind. Is it likely that there is an ubiquitous consciousness which facilitates the existence of matter and energy?I mean, are humans and all other intelligent species only secondary observers with respect to a primary observer which possesses ubiquitous nature?In other words,does our perception of things not have any apparent effect on the existence of matter simply ,because of the existence of this primary observer?If yes could we infer that this primary observer is also aware of our emotions,thoughts,the complex mechanisms of life and basically everything know and unknown to society both past present and future to facilitate their existence?I make this somewhat naive proposition simply because I realised that for anything to exist from the perspective of idealism in comparison to the scientific point of view it must be observed.I would be glad to hear your opinion on this.Thanks again thoughty 2 for making me think twice about things onceI 'thought' I fully understood.

[@jayrussell3796]

Yes. It basically means without me being here, you don't exist.

[@wallaceOne5900]

@@jayrussell3796 Figures

[@michaelmccarthy4077]

"stuck a sewing needle in his eye" doing this voluntarily is mind boggling. I have to get injections in the eye once a month and it isn't pleasant and that is _with_ lidocaine.

[@mbeaux5693]

I believe it does make a sound as there are always animals in the forest. I know that we humans are not the only beings that matter here.

[@duvalovertonii6601]

13:09 lol…what’s even funnier about this is that once you know there are words there…you hear them without reading them…not being primed to receive something as communication in an unexpected form causes you to receive it for what it is primed as…I’m a big sound person…I clicked this not anticipating it to be about sound…and almost got bored until this part…I expected it to be something I am familiar with because I’m big on philosophy too…but I’m more fascinated by philosophy than sound…as sound has been a profession of mine for 24 years of my 35 year life…I’m glad something fascinating happened

[@truthseeker7041]

Thank you sir

[@gilotovlog8703]

Why is KZbin turning their backs on small creators that initially made the platform great?

[@riaagarwal6840]

It's time to create competition for KZbin

[@garyhyndman1105]

💰💶💵💷💰🤑

[@MrMolotov888]

"If a Tree Falls Does it Make a Sound?" visible confusion

[@Lerium]

Yeah that was a stupid title. It didn't take him long to change it

[@brunomendes4607]

@@Lerium why stupid? literally everyone knows that question, have you never heard it?

[@isefomfise]

Its not visible tho

[@Lerium]

@@brunomendes4607 because the quote actually goes like this. "If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" If a Tree Falls Does it Make a Sound... Without the context it's pretty dumb. This is obviously just my opinion and it's not important at all I just made a dumb comment on it.

[@jeffthompson9622]

Not audible confusion?

[@AB-tc8lx]

This was a fascinating video and I watched it from start to finish but I still have the original question did they ever find out who cut down all those trees

[@quentinshock736]

That coughing had me tripping I had just ripped the bong😂😂😂