The one thing that I HATE about Legendary difficulty

[@HalfAssDevil]

This game has been out for damn near twelve years now and yet this is legit the first time I have ever seen anyone use a ward spell outside of that first(and only) college lesson quest.

[@dornek01]

ward is very useful spell smh

[@Vinsomer]

Wards are amazing, especially when wearing enchanted gear with restoration reduced cost to 0%. You can basically heal and ward of spells and dragon breath indefinitely.

[@filipvadas7602]

Wards are crazy usefull against Dragons and enemies that actually use higher tier spells ( Nightmaster Vampires and Dragon Priests in particular) Especially if you have mods that make dragons stronger and rebalances the game to where NPCs actually benefit from skills amd such.

[@Guille-mz7xf]

Ward + CGO so I can use them and a two handed at the same time great times killing dragons

[@i.minpayne2561]

@@Guille-mz7xf wtf is cgo that sounds rad as fuck

[@icetide9411]

Insta-kills moves really should've happened when the enemy lands the last hit, not some armor-piercing beam of death that constantly checks your health.

[@TibiaOTarena]

100%

[@senesterium]

VioLens mod is your friend.

[@gilmadreth680]

"Oh no! Who could ever have imagined that I, a legendary dragon returned from the dead, would meet my end at the hands of a bumbling mortal who's known they had the soul of a dragon for all of two....just kidding! K-hax-die!"

[@imagine-face]

Nope. That’s how death gets you: bad or good, armoured to hell or naked - it gets through everything and chews you despite what you have done in this life - the last reminder about pathetic human nature. Cathes me every time. Brrrr.

[@Ludovicus1769]

It’s called Legendary difficulty for a reason, you’re stupid for complaining that it’s too hard.

[@Lyrog]

My favorite thing is when you're running from an enemy and you're clearly way ahead of them, but when you pass through a door they teleport in front of you and perform the execute animation before the loading screen ends

[@pillowsoft4444]

I have had this exact scenario play out at least 5 times. Its why I hate any bandits that use warhammers…

[@dockerb3159]

​​@@pillowsoft4444The amount of times I've had a 2H warhammer in my head is probably 200

[@michaelmccarty1327]

This is more of an issue with kill cams than with Legendary. I especially hate when my kill came mess up my kills

[@Clav_]

It’s even worse when you are near the start of the game and all it takes is a bandit thug with said warhammer and he can kill move you at 100% health. 🤯

[@FilipMakaroni_xD]

i hate the execute animation

[@TheGreenTaco999]

0:41 the fact that the game has you taking damage from behind a wall only to teleport you to make it look like a fair bite lmao

[@MultiBearsfan54]

Behind a tiny little wall lol wym

[@matari7299]

I can't stop thinking that the dragon tries to make you into a popsicle before eating you

[@OiranDaki]

I love this

[@dicedoom7162]

thats what White dragons like to do in the D&D setting!!

[@zilches]

Lol thats cute

[@Orikron]

I appreciate this comment

[@Wulfjager]

Odd wanting a popsicle in _that_ weather. I'd rather go for some crispy barbecue

[@XyzgorYT]

Tip: Killmoves ignore your armor rating, their trigger instead only calculates your total health. Health enchantments + putting more points into health each level up can help to avoid this.

[@undergravitydownforce714]

fuck, that explains a lot, dragon skin 80% damage reduction spell never felt that strong on my low hp mage

[@Juicedbelmont]

They also don't take into account things like konarik or the avoid death perk,they only calculates your health in relation to your enemies damage

[@insystem7]

To help avoid this it should be patched so that killmoves are calculated properly instead of randomly triggering and ignoring armor. 10 years. It should at least have the setting to disable this broken feature on vanilla game.

[@codyhill2311]

Which means 90% of all builds are practically worthless 🙄. "I'll go with stealth Archery I'm stealth so I don't that many points in health" nope. "I'll go with a battle mage I'll put a lot of points in Magic and use Alteration for armor" Nope. Etc.. Hell don't get me started on trying to do an illusion heavy character 🙄🙄 seriously this game limits you so badly.

[@Juicedbelmont]

@@codyhill2311 im mean,with mage and the "impact" perk you can easily stunlock enemies

[@levistoner]

Ah, I still remember the first time I got kill moved by a bandit chief with a steel warhammer. I had him reeling, almost dead, I had plenty of health, then suddenly the cut scene started and I was confused, I hadn’t attacked, then he started hammering me like I was a tent post being driven into frozen ground. Good times. Legendary refers to the enemy NPCs, not the player character.

[@kusogaki_shion]

That's why most people use conjuration

[@connorbrennan501]

bro this comment made me laugh out loud. Universal experience.

[@Infamouschef_]

That fact that you get within melee range on legendary difficulty instead of using ranged magic attacks like me has earned you my respect. May enemy archers give mercy to you.

[@eduardomelo151]

Ranged magic dual cast with impact so the enemy can't even react. I'm starting to think I'm a coward

[@rustyjones7908]

I use calm spells to end combat then melee sneak attack.

[@TIRFemcel]

cuz vanilla destruction magic especially on legendary doesnt deal any sort of damage its trash

[@rustyjones7908]

@@TIRFemcel I've done well with destruction builds on legendary unmodded Skyrim. Honestly if smithing wasn't so crazy overpowered it'd seem more useful

[@kennethyates1725]

does conjuration count while going into melee?

[@They_Call_Me_HeartFace]

The killmoves are an unfinished feature that needed a patch for himself when they tried to add those DLCS.

[@ianlove4876]

Yeah you could literally get oneshotted at 100% health because of this Bugthesda blunder

[@JoeyCentral]

Yup. At least with Elden Ring you have a chance to avoid moves that one shot you. But in Skyrim, you literally get fucked by a bandit or dragon via killmove before you get a chance to avoid it.

[@Axelarden]

@@ianlove4876 yeah I can't play the game without a mod to disable killmoves entirely. they're buggy and it's total bullshit when you know you should survive an attack but you don't because the game says so

[@realglutenfree]

It's a bug? I always thought it's just be sure legendary. I always hate dragons in my early game, when I don't have enough health

[@alexander27ja]

Theres a mod, i think is it called the dance of death were you can adjust the % of the kill moves you do as deactivate the kill moves done the enemies to the player

[@FortniteFan-kn3ul]

Ninja gaiden Black is one of the only games I have played that did the difficulty setting right. It added new enemies and bosses and changed loot locations plus it made the enemies ai smarter without making them damage sponges. Most games seem to do the lazy option like skyrim and do a flat hp and dmg multiplier.

[@ohsheet6958]

Resident Evil 7 did difficulty really well too

[@_xail]

Crit mode in kingdom hearts 2 did the difficulty aspect masterfully too

[@cazmoken8181]

God Hand, Resident Evil 4 and Bloodborne nailed the difficulty curve.

[@Gamenoclips]

@@cazmoken8181 Souls serie it still good legendary high is ds2 new enemy new buff new combo,other only + dmg and hp

[@raven75257]

Dead Cells has the best design of difficulty out there. Though, not sure if it counts since boss cells are not exactly a difficulty option

[@monkyk1ng]

VIOLENS is a terrific mod because it lets you turn off enemy kill cams. Revolutionary experience

[@andrew5803]

One of the main reasons I don't like increasing or decreasing my difficulty in Bethesda games. While I'm aware of Fallout 4's increased chance in better loot, for the most part, the only "Difficulty" is the fact you take more damage from enemies but deal less damage to enemies. That to me isn't fun.

[@kristopher4557]

Yeah I agree. What's the point of wasting so much time and resources. Upgrading stats 10% here and 5% obsessing over tiny power ups here and there when you can just change the difficulty down at any time? You don't even lose anything

[@notanonymous3976]

i play New Vegas with realistic weapons damage. makes you think more about cover. makes planning ambushes fun, but getting ambushed or spotted can get you killed immediately

[@hakametal]

Agreed. I didn't make a legendary Daedric weapon just to get a 0.25x debuff.

[@bork7253]

@@notanonymous3976 that would be fun if the aiming mechanics weren’t shit, makes the game worse than it already is

[@notanonymous3976]

@@bork7253 why do we all have these @'s in our names now? what's going on? i have 3976 im my name

[@TheTSense]

Hero of Legends, Soul of a Dragon, Vampirelord in full Plate armor: Dies to a single iron arrow from a hunting bow to the foot. Random Halfnaked bandit in furs that makes up 70% of the polulation: Takes 50 Dwarven Crossbowbolts to the head without slowing down. Ah yes, "Difficulty" is a word.

[@polariaosu]

I was playing a modded playthrough of Skyrim and at the Wreck of the Pride of Tel Vos, to complete a quest for Brand-Shei in Riften, there was this one bandit and I swear to god he was the juggernaut of all bandits. I was only on Adept difficulty and he had: - Dragonsteel arrows and a glass bow (which kills in two hits) - Full glass armor (barely took any damage when I attacked him with an ebony sword) - An iron dagger that did half of my health in damage, causing me to die in two hits unless I raised my shield, which would either block the damage or kill me instantly... god knows why My armor wasn't great but like, iron dagger I know it was in part due to mods, but thanks skyrim

[@333dae]

the funny thing about adjustable difficulties is that the easier settings tend to be lore accurate

[@FungusAmanita]

@@333dae yep

[@Softpaw1996]

Ah yes, the "balance" we have dismissed that claim!

[@caelestigladii]

@@Softpaw1996Lol. That game is another great offender.

[@magicfibre]

This is why I love the Spellbreaker shield. It completely nullifies all the damage from dragon breaths. As long as they stay on the ground, it makes the dragon fights trivial, even on the Legendary difficulty

[@chosen729]

I was about to say “just level up to get max health when your health gets low!” Until I saw the second kill move with close to full health 😂

[@datboi4586]

After getting killed for the 50th time trying to start the game on legendary, I finally caved and added a mod that removed kill moves and it made the game 100x more enjoyable not getting kill moved at 80% health by anyone

[@MrStarofdemons]

Weakling

[@Brgrboy]

Need this mod I play survival legendary and killmoves are 100% the worst part about the entire game

[@lazilycatharticone4191]

Legendary is pretty simple once you know how to build your character around it. It forces you to actually invest in defensive perks and resistance perks you'd normally ignore. Some form of Alchemy, Smithing, Enchanting along with Light/Heavy/Mage Armor are now mandatory for long-term survival. Also you cant run into a battle Madara vs the Shinobi Alliance style either. Gotta play it smart, pick them off one by one, or distract them with companions/magic/poisons/shouts for crowd control.

[@littlemoth4956]

@@lazilycatharticone4191 No, it makes you abuse game mechanics and avoid melee for the first 10 hours. Then it becomes just like any other difficulty.

[@X340n]

@@lazilycatharticone4191 so only one build is relevant? Lame, I used to play skyrim a lot but after going back to it I realized how broken and unenjoyable combat is, I promptly uninstalled.

[@markhill8150]

The killmoves also trigger the instant you or the enemy attacks. Not when the attack actually lands. So attacks that would have been blocked or evaded by the time they actually landed, now instantly kill.

[@Einheit101]

Which is why everyone disables them in a .ini file

[@mcNuggetMuncher]

​@@Einheit101I play with them it's a part of Legendary difficulty. If you disable them you might as well play on easy mode

[@mikayari185]

@@mcNuggetMuncher we play the difficulty to force ourselves a better kit and a better strategy, not get insta-killed because an attack ignored EVERYTHING in regards to what i just mentioned all because your health got chipped away. you might as well just play the game with clothes or completely naked if you want just want to die easily.

[@mcNuggetMuncher]

@@mikayari185 skill isue 🤷‍♂️

[@mikayari185]

@@mcNuggetMuncher even fallout has a more comprehensive and fun hard mode than skyrim and its all because im not randomly outsmarted by rng lol

[@Frenzy_Flame]

I still can't believe I finished Skyrim on legendary difficulty all those years ago. This is truly a testament to anyone's patience.

[@perihelion7798]

Legendary 'difficulty' is pretty silly, as it only affects the player and those attacking the player. It does not affect followers or atronachs, pets, etc. so if you just hide out and let your pals do the fighting, it will be a lot simpler. I play on Adept or Expert, and actually debuff my player through perks, armor, and weapons, and what can be enchanted, etc., so level the playing field. This approach works better for me.

[@dreadblock7592]

​@@perihelion7798characters that can heal tend to be a pain. My boy Faendel makes it worse by refusing to give up.

[@michaellopez4746]

​@@perihelion7798isn't the player really the only thing that needs to be affected? Trust me your followers will die without you and even if they don't the moment they go down that aggro is on you anyway. The game always has that going on so to say it's silly is to minimize it. I think maybe you just didn't have the patience or skill which is totally understandable so I'm not saying you suck I get it. But it's still harder than everything else.

[@perihelion7798]

@@michaellopez4746 You have never seen me play, yet you arrogantly decide that I lack patience or skill. Stop wearing your sphincter muscle as a necklace. Go play your little games.

[@HandlelessTML]

​@michaellopez4746 what a passive aggressive comment. Like damn bro just call OP an asshat and be done with it 😂

[@Bergen98]

Playing on novice: Destroying Alduin with a flames spell Playing on legendary: dying from a horse

[@anothernamelessundead]

The worst is when every spell you cast at something triggers the bullet time camera even though half the time that causes the spell to outright miss, or the enemy you're shooting at is at full health and the camera is for not

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

The worst part about this is you can't even follow-up shot

[@tristannajar1458]

Isn’t there a setting that can disable the bullet time camera outright? I mean, I like it in some situations, but not all the bloody time. So I do turn that off during a mage run.

[@Easelgames]

@@tristannajar1458 IIRC it's a ini file tweak or something, so not something you can do on consoles

[@tristannajar1458]

@@Easelgames You sure? I’m going to hop on Skyrim later on my Switch and see if that is true or not, because I swear I saw it once

[@keppi157]

Had this happen to me way to much ended up having to download a mod

[@ApenasUmIdiota]

I would never have realized that Wards help against dragon shouts, thank you for making my mage Playthrough 5 times easier. Ok so, to clarify things, that was legit my first time as a mage, i didn't know shit about it

[@balf-jg4813]

Or if you want to save some magicka, just go get a Spellbreaker shield. No magicka needed and its worthy!

[@GrandMarshalGarithos]

You can use become ethereal too.

[@Albertosn3]

Just make sure you cast the ward before the breath starts Even Lesser Ward can block the entire shout that way

[@sgorgardr227]

Most people don't know 80% of game features, because it takes experimenting to find out, but install 99+ animal anuses mods to "enhance gameplay". I swear to God it's true.

[@lorenzobresciani9969]

Even the shield of peryite work veeeery well on shouts

[@sgorgardr227]

And he was level 29. A frost dragon, not legendary, just a frost dragon, as soon as he got hit a LITTLE bit, UNDER the potion of health that gives you additional temporaty hit-points, and a lategame big potion as well... just *nom*

[@Jarikraider]

Getting the mod that disables kill moves is balanced and should have been built in. Because yes, you potentially could have bashed, blocked, or avoided that attack.

[@trustytrest]

He did avoid the 2nd one. It warped him back into place for the kill.

[@guest273]

Pro tip: If you want to take little / no damage from any spell based attack - Magic / Dragon Breaths / Magic Traps - then Armor & Anti-Magic Armor have 2 different "armor" rating. Basically get 1 item with the "reduces magic damage" & do the quest for the shield of Solitude, destroy both items, and enchant 1 ring & 1 necklace with both magic damage reductions (need enchanting 90 or 100 for this) + 2 Greater soul gems and you end up with like 60% total magic reduction from all sources. Also enchant some random light boots / helmet & you can resist like 90% of magic damage.

[@rayzuke1232]

I believe resistances cap at 85%. Spell absorption however has no cap but is hard to acquire. The best source for those are the Atronarch stone and the Atronarch perk which gives a total of 80% Spell absorption. If you can get Miraaks gears you can bump that up close to 100% but the typical Necromage perk while being a vampire is by far the best way to become immune to any and all forms of magic.

[@gunnigasig9084]

I use the Spellbreaker Shield (the deadric artifact of Peryte) which grands you 50% magic resistance and a barrier (which will activate while blocking and is actually bigger than your shield) while blocking just like the ward spell. Adding that one perk in the blocking skill tree which grands you another 50% magic resistance while blocking with a shield you have the same effect like ward in the video here but won’t loose magicka or stamina while also blocking Arrows, which ward can’t. If you also have the skill in the blocking tree where you don’t take damage of Arrows hitting your shield the spell breaker becomes a really good choice against any type of range attack. It’s really good against Dragons and Mages who uses consistent spells like frost or any type of Dragons Breaths. Almost like a movie, feels really epic standing right in a fire blast. But be careful with area damage like that fireball of the crow ladies (I don’t know the English name). You can block it with the shield but you really need to block it in a 90 degree angle otherwise you might get damage because the explosion get on the side of your shield. Ah and also a reminder, yes it is a shield BUT if you actually manage to get into melee range the spellbreaker itself is not the best shield for blocking physically damage. So a dragon might deal a lot of damage anyways. I mean it’s not a bad shield but I think Ebony armor is already better, only looking on armor points. Try to stun your enemy with a shield attack ( can be also upgraded in the blocking tree ) and than hitting heavy attacks, which can stunn enemies as well. Really good way against mages.

[@gigantor6519]

​@gunnigasig9084 crow ladies = Hagravens

[@admiralhood8646]

@@rayzuke1232 you wont be able to cast conjuration spells with 100% spell absorption

[@Mahli711]

Ahh yes when the dragon just so much as looks at you and you magically teleport in front of it before it eats you

[@innocuousalias6632]

good old skyrim. In every other game that has finishing moves they would always come after reaching zero hitpoints but in this one it would replace the final hit. Or in other words the enemy attack that needed to be avoided the most became unavoidable. Bandit chiefs with two handed weapons would always nail me like this during the early midgame if my health got any where close to 1/3.

[@Hallalemon]

I fear leveling anything other than combat abilities early on because of that. You'll be doing fine, then all of a sudden a bandit with a great work takes off your head.

[@kinorris1709]

Also, if it feels like the finisher is killing you at way more health than literally their heaviest attack should, it's probably because it is. Finishers take into account your health and the damage the enemy can do to you if your armor rating is 0. That's it. If your armor should reduce their 250 damage attack to 50, but you are at 250 or lower, they can oneshot you.

[@kinorris1709]

Basically, if you have any armor at all and you've been executed, the vast majority of the time, the game is cheating.

[@sergeychistov8162]

I'm getting oneshoted even on full hp. I like legendary difficulty.

[@konanhuet623]

playinng on expert right now with survival etc, and these bandit chiefs will one shot me if i get to close. Thank god for scrolls and quicksaving

[@johnbutt9005]

Lol I feel that, I’m playing a legendary play through right now and I also hate it the other way around. These kill shots with play when I am shooting with a bow and they often miss. Same happens when I first level destruction and it drains all my mana

[@SeranaDovah]

Bro. I love how after 10 years you are still learning things. I never thought to use wards against a fucking dragon. I always hated using them against any Humanoid targets because you got hit from all directions and playing on console you can’t love your crosshairs fast enough to deflect everything. But so gonna start doing this on dragons and boost my restoration skill faster. ❤

[@SkyrimExplorer]

Yeah. Even the weakest ward is usually enough to save you from dragon's breath. But Spellbreaker is even better as its ward doesn't cost magicka and shield alone provides an extra armor.

[@shinji391]

​@Skyrim Explorer if the weakest ward is viable, why do they break all the time?

[@SkyrimExplorer]

@@shinji391 I must have thought that spellbreaker's ward (50) is same power as lesser ward - but it is not (40). I can't remember spellbreaker's ward to break if cast soon enough. So steadfast ward (60) should be enough for every dragon. [EDIT] Still I remember as beginning pure mage lesser ward was enough to protect me against dragons, at least those not the highest level.

[@projectisaac]

This was one reason i disabled killmoves. The other main reason was warching my character go through a slow animation kill for every 3rd bandit got old REALLY fast

[@nimmha6708]

Hey, how to disable those? I'm annoyed by my arrows flying in slowmotion and then suddenly (even though it's a KILL-cam) they miss.........

[@nicholasmarsh6269]

@@nimmha6708 it’s a mod to turn them off

[@attenberg]

I don’t know who thought that NPCs should have control over how they instakill you. You can’t even dodge or prevent it. Someone didn’t play their game.

[@gavaudan2131]

It only happens when you're low enough they can one-shot you

[@attenberg]

@@gavaudan2131 stop playing on novice

[@Crispierbug]

@@attenberg I mean he is not wrong, you will get kill moved if a attack would kill you and I think kill moves don't factor in armor so a dragon on legendary has a very high chance to kill move you at or near full health unless you pump max hp.

[@heybro4000]

I especially love how it ignores any armor youre wearing also, a dragon may take 3 hits to kill you with you armor, but the animation says dragon attack would kill you naked so you die now

[@MegaOgrady]

@@gavaudan2131 _Me getting one shot at 80% health_ Yup lmao

[@calebtheholyman545]

Was deadset on a legendary playthrough recently until realizing a lot of skills level based on your base damage, which is significantly lowered at any level after adept. Immediately switched to adept and somehow my conjuration has gone up 10 levels when it was previously at 45 after grinding for DAYS on summons

[@Pedro-xe7lk]

I level conjuration up to 100 in a matter of 15 minutes by just using Soul Trap on a random wolf

[@nimmha6708]

soul trap on a dead body, wait 1h, soul trap on a dead body, wait 1h and repeat lvl 100 in about 20-30 minutes.

[@christianamaris8807]

​Bruh you can get to level 100 conj, soul trapping your horse in a matter of 8 to 10 min MAXIMUM, same with muffle and illusion @@nimmha6708

[@rjw4149]

Master is my sweet spot, hard enough when it should be but makes you feel good when your geared

[@douglasswain3450]

On legendary, at least friendly NPCs don't die right away. On lower difficulties I'd always get "Sorry For Your Loss" letters and it screws up little side quests. Got so upset when Balimund died.

[@tatsuyas.drakensang4826]

I always immediately load to a older save or if it happened too far ago, use the almighty powers of command to resurrect. Bc c'mon, dragons randomly perching on towns when you are just passing thru and killing important bit not essencial NPCS is frustrating to the point of justifying a little command to fix your whole save of having one less interesting asset

[@ARMANsoran-rz4ce]

Balimund the smither from riften?

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

This is why I've downloaded mods that allow me to customize kill moves. One of them is disabling the dragon grabs.

[@Arronic]

Amen to that modding Skyrim in ways like this are so helpful

[@hiimuziwannaplay2497]

wow one more cheat

[@hiimuziwannaplay2497]

@@user-kz9zi7rv9p ty już zaczynasz? zamknij tq dupe

[@wintermaniac2866]

@@hiimuziwannaplay2497 it's legit

[@BritishFrenchman]

The VioLens mod allows you to disable kill moves on the player, it's honestly a must have if you want to complete the game without having to quicksave every 5 minutes.

[@lnr7197]

Honestly, based on how many times I lost progress because of crashes and bugs, I would still save every few minutes. "It just works."

[@BritishFrenchman]

@@lnr7197 Fair enough xD

[@Eviltower101]

I feel you on that. I'll have to get that mod next time I attempt again. I lost interest because of this reason. The kill moves were too ridiculous. I hate artificial difficulty like that. Especially because I dodged a lot and as soon as they attack you on low health the game just considers you dead incredibly preemptively.

[@janisir4529]

​@@lnr7197I had an auto save mod that saved so frequently my roommates questioned my sanity.

[@jtgassassin1280]

I feel your pain. Was playing at the other night and a frost Dragon came right down in the courtyard of the college just like that, Either is walking around like nothing😵

[@TheHuskyGT]

Difficulty is so broken in this game. I keep bumping it between Master and Legendary because you can easily defeat a random dragon and all of the sudden a bear mauls you to death

[@Perroden]

I font have problems with random mobs. It's just the dragons on high difficulty, it's just a matter of them deciding when I die no mater what I do. It's always instadeath.

[@Nimai_Aquino]

Bears are completely broken in the game. Its easier to defeat dragr lords and dragons than a bear in single combat.

[@jchweszczuk5691]

I started to play last week, put it on legendary because read that game to easy. Adventure outside of Helgen alone. Got killed by a pack of wolves. You can't dodge, can't escape because wolves more faster than me and do a lounge attack 💀

[@queengoblin]

Whole game is broken. It's absolute ass without mods. I love it and hate it. I hope their next games are much better and less rushed.

[@gorillabbq4811]

Adept is considered the actual game difficulty. The reason something is weaker then you is because you are actually that strong. Accept it.

[@ArturoPladeado]

The wonders of killcams, if an enemy COULD one shot you then they WILL. No matter what your health is at if they have an attack that could instant kill you then the killcam is automatically activates resulting in some bullshit deaths.

[@blak4831]

Well, that and a dragon's grab attack triggers even when the bite it was attempting would have nowhere near killed you

[@dedmonkeysinspacelars3016]

I wanna see your frost resistance on the armour/accessories the way your character took that frost breath was impressive🤯

[@MagicalQliqui]

the VioLens mod allows you to adjust the frequency at which instakill animations occur... I only used it to disable enemies doing them on me for legendary melee playthroughs cause i was sick of it lmao

[@jasonr8525]

i've always felt like the finisher moves from enemies are one of the dumbest features of the game on any difficulty. There seems to be no consistency on when they can trigger

[@kinorris1709]

The trigger is your health dropping to a point where if your damage reduction were 0, you'd die on the next melee hit. If your armor reduces 250 damage to 50, but you are below 250 health, if your enemy could kill you at 0 armor, they can kill you anyway.

[@AppleOfThineEye]

@@kinorris1709 Which isn't fair.

[@kinorris1709]

@@AppleOfThineEye agreed.

[@jasonr8525]

@@kinorris1709 so basically the special kill animations from the enemy ignore all armor and damage reduction. fucking stupid

[@chos7631]

Yeah, would not miss kill-moves in the slightest if they don't come back in Elder Scrolls 6, situations like this make them get really old, really fast.

[@weicheng7215]

No, kill moves are very well needed for their cool finish, but they must turn them off for NPCs if they cannot patch them to work fairly. They must keep them for our character however, and if anything, to make everyone happy could consider adding the option to enable/disable them from the options menu

[@blak4831]

@XXV Oh honey it's not a bug, it's a feature. They use the same logic on NPCs as they do for the player (i.e., if there's a target in a cone in front of the attacker with less than a certain amount of hp, it has a %chance to play a kill animation). This gets most annoying with spells/arrows (which interestingly is the only type of kill animation that NPCs can't do) because the detection plays at the moment you shoot, and reads and area much larger than the arrow/spell's path (and doesn't acount for movement) so it usually just misses and breaks the flow of the game, and of cours dragons' instant kill grab animation, because *most* cinematic kill animations check the target's hp against the damage of the attack (a weapon wing, a dragon's bite, etc), so it really only robs the chance to dodge something that woul;d have killed you if it hit anyways. But for some reason the dragon grab animation checks an hp threshold *way* higher than the actual damage from the bite attack it was attempting. On higher difficulties, this threshold can regularly be well above even your max hp, so getting even *close* to melee range with a dragon will instantly kill you

[@Crispierbug]

@@blak4831 Kill moves are actually bugged and ignore armor.

[@JoeyCentral]

@@weicheng7215 Kill moves for NPCs is fine IF it is triggered only if the attack will actually hit the player and kill them (meaning it takes the player's remaining HP as well as resistances into consideration).

[@Nickday112]

One thing I don't like about killmoves is early game when you have minimal magika it can waste it by spamming whatever concentration spell you are using

[@idipped2521]

It’s crazy how he can just grab you out of the hall like that from like 15 feet away lmao

[@arthursjournal5566]

that cut-off at the first death makes it much funnier goddamnn 🤣

[@HittokiriBattousai17]

Happens also in Master difficulty, it is one of my biggest fears while playing permadeath, and the reason why I never approach a dragon. It also happens with 2 handed Orc warriors, particularly if they use greathammers.

[@baronhelmut2701]

Why would you ever play a two handed swordsmanship class on legendary difficulty ? Two handed swords are inferior in real combat and they are even more inferior in skyrim. Didn’t you watch „how to tame a dragon“ ? Always pick the fucking shield over the sword. You can murder someone with a shield but you cant block arrows with a sword.

[@jaytee2992]

@@baronhelmut2701 bro it isn't that deep, also he never said he uses two handed swords

[@baronhelmut2701]

@@jaytee2992 he kinda did. Orc warriors cant get finishers on you unless you are not raising your shield.

[@HittokiriBattousai17]

@@baronhelmut2701 Two-handed Orc warrior has the highest damage in the entire game. Only truly viable class for permadeath Master/Legendary with certain ease. The other one is Stealth-focused Breton (due to high magic resistance) archer and Altmer fire mage (last one being the worst BY A MILE). Every other combination has high percentage of failure before level 20, especially the first first levels. PS: shields are useless in higher difficulties.

[@ispear6337]

@@HittokiriBattousai17 pretty sure mace + dagger offhand has the highest raw damage in the game due to the extra swing speed from the dagger and the bug/feature with dual wielding where you get an extra power attack if you time a dual normal attack right after a dual power attack correctly. You can also abuse the power attack bug/feature by throwing a shitty stamina drain on the dagger and never stop power attacking. It's super squishy so I wouldn't call it viable but if you want raw damage a very early game setup on legendary can gimp a dragon 5-10 levels higher than you in like 30-45 seconds.

[@jollycooperation7446]

When a band of bandits pop out of nowhere and 1 of them smashes you face in before you even drew your sword..

[@holloworeo2233]

It's kinda like the sewer squids in Lost Planet 2. Once they dropped their mouth anywhere near you, it was an insta kill on any difficulty.

[@click8708]

This is what frustrated me too, happened when the dragon was what I thought 1 hit from death, and I kept messing up and pulling my strike away, end up hitting it and its hp went down to an empty bar and before I could land the last hit he mlemed me :(

[@thomaschaumeil3878]

My first dragon in Skyrim in legendary (Mirmulnir) took me 1 hour to finish it, with only a bow & arrows (and a lot of running, dodging and hiding)

[@manfurtherforward7924]

Indeed that is rather frustrating

[@theindooroutdoorsman]

I was laughing so hard at this, thank you for uploading. I never get eaten by dragons so I didn't know it could happen, let alone twice like that lol.

[@Sigma_Male_Anti_Female]

legendary difficulty.

[@DanTeInTheInferno]

It would be cool if there was a mod for kill moves. Like you can get executions if your attacking skill for example like 50 or smh, you press some button and there is execution, you are vulnerable when you're doing it (unlike vanilla) but it gives you a temporally buff like +10% dmg, inspire fear in enemies around or smh like that

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

It doesn't really work like this with executions lmao, they're based on the VATS system from Fallout, so unless someone adds back VATS you can't really tie vanilla executions to a specific button But hey, atleast there's VioLense

[@esthermoonmusic]

@@NiCoNiCoNiCola valhalla combat adds triggerable executions

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

@@esthermoonmusic that's kinda racist ngl

[@Soten_Bori]

This is the exact reason I modded those out when I played on PC, and saved during (not just before) every dragon encounter on console

[@JegErEnBulldozer]

One of the very first mods I download when starting a legendary playthrough is the NPC's can't killmove you 😅

[@basedbattledroid3507]

All this time I never thought to use wards against dragon breath, should've been obvious lol

[@humblehive6502]

It’s even better on the survival mode where the frost breath lowers your health cap and it always gets you

[@hayakawa3611]

I'm currently going through a legendary play through, I got so annoyed at being level 45 and struggling to survive I used the telekinesis exploit three times. I feel a little guilty about it but now I can actually survive an attack from a bear.

[@templar_dragonknight]

I remember this happened to me all the time because I downloaded Dynamic Difficulty and put 2x damage done both by me and by NPCs, so I just used Violens (or was it Ultimate Dragons) to disable dragon killmoves lol

[@nellitheretrogamer8666]

Just yesterday I also battled a Frost Dragon at Winterhold (Survival mode, Expert difficulty, level 30 or so). The damn thing landed on the top of the building and wouldn't come down, so I went in to the Hall of Attainment, ran up the stairs and came out on the roof. The game of course makes an autosave at the point when I come out of the bulding, so every time I reloaded, the thing was right in front of me with its mouth open. It smacked me on the floor, froze me to death upright, threw me over the wall like a volleyball, etc. I was determined that I'm not going to go back to an earlier save file, I'm gonna defeat the thing where I am. I don't remember how many tries it took, but I managed it in the end.

[@Shay2]

I remember hating this so much when I was younger. Learned how to avoid it though and it hasn't happened for years

[@Mabra51]

Same exact thing happened to me with Falx Carius, but unlike dragons, he's not immune to paralysis or ragdolling.

[@LuanSpesani65]

Legendary difficulty is for who wants to suffer with all those bugs. In my first play on that level I trained non combat skills in Whiterun and reached lvl 20 only to realize that was a big mistake and had to restart my playthrough.

[@MegaOgrady]

Oh no. You powerleveled all the mobs rofls

[@wisteqs6644]

One idea i have for the instant killcam issue (on lower lvls ir higher difficulties) is to make it so that it only has a chance to show a killcam if your health already reaches 0 and your enemy attacks again Another it to include a (special) killcam attempt screen (in place of the regular instant killcam) where the player can still move, block, or attack and they can still avoid the killmove and cause it to fail (the range for this (special) killcam would be adjusted so that it doesn't reach too far tho when being initiated) (of course if the the player fails to evade the hit, then the killcam is successful) i have some other kinda much more complex ideas for the killcam, but i think one of those is kinda used in a mod (health(+stamina) being below a certain percent in order to do a killcam) but yeah, as other comments point out, an in-game solution in vanilla skyrim is to either not get hit in range of the instant killcam or make sure that your raw health alone is enough to survive a single hit that could otherwise kill you (even despite armor) since the killcam only activates if your health is low enough to be one-shot without armor (mods are also a potential option if they are available to you)

[@LargePurpleMoth]

Never knew how these worked before and just assumed Dragons had an insta-kill bite move if you got too close to their head, so I always just try to avoid their front half… Now I understand after reading some comments, just unavoidable finishing moves

[@DarkmegaGaming]

lmao. that rage quickload. you knew exactly what was coming. xD

[@Rodrigo-hs9mo]

Where are my Master Difficulty people?

[@xSpiritSwordSx]

Yup. The best difficulty. Tough as nails but you don't have to exploit everything to survive. Late game balance is great imo

[@CynicalAnomaly205]

That's why I get the killmove overhaul mod Violens, it gives you an option to be immune to that bullshit.

[@voidpunkprincess]

I personally try to stay close straight to the side and then behind the Dragon. It can't eat you if it can't bite you

[@xSTATOKEx]

I love your commitment to Legendary difficulty by using an unmodded UI.

[@infinitesimalphilip1470]

what modded ui would you even recommend

[@Nesolepus]

I HAVE NEVER SEEN A WARD USED LIKE THAT! I always thought of them as gimmicks.

[@douwe4254]

Play as a spellmage and refuse to use any type of bow. Not even summon bow. I generally have a light armor shield, two one handed weapons, and a bunch of spells. And I generally add vampirism to it as well to be a bit more tanky. You can keep it challenging to stick to clothing and use alteration to get more armor rating than you could achieve till midgame, with the handicap of not forgetting to cast the spells. Because you get oneshot otherwise on some difficulties. In VR with a wabbajack modpack, those runs are my favorite.

[@PalpyRNG]

This is why I always stuck to the wing side and hit them there and turn with them when they turn

[@smmurphy739]

I feel your pain, dragon biting attacks are so overpowered

[@Scorchx169x]

Yep. Now imagine playing a deathless run.

[@BohrokKiller]

I did that a few months ago. Managed to come all the way to Skuldafn, then I got oneshot by a archer XD

[@jaypee9575]

I always disable player killcam with either a mod or console (don't recall which, it's been a while) as it ruins the game for me to have control suddenly taken away all the time so I can watch a kill cinematic. I'm not sure I've ever seen a dragon do this, so disabling killcam might disable this as well. I'd give that a try.

[@IwasFRAMEDiTELLyou]

First mod I add to my game on a fresh install is one that lets me disable all killmoves, player and enemy alike

[@FrostReach66]

The thing about Skyrim is that the game is so invariably hard in the beginning but once you make the best armor you can, even on legendary, it can feel like a pushover.

[@trustytrest]

Except instant killmoves ignore armor, even if you cheesed enchantment to get 2000000 armor rating.

[@oxsoverlord9351]

Been doing a no fast travel legendary playthrough and since i cant fast travel i awlays loot and caves or camps i come across as it wont be easy to come back to later and my god the amount of times ive been one shot is crazy

[@swaghettimemeballs4420]

My dude, just install the remove killmoves mod. There is literally no reason for why killmoves should be able to teleport you from 5 meters away. Absolute garbage coding.

[@SmokedUpMage]

Man you play so tactfully. I just charge in guns blazing, die a hundred times or so until I make it to the next room and then save 😂

[@chancerobinson80]

I can feel the desk slam as you got ate the second time

[@ardynizunia9709]

I remember my first legendary playthrough being the easiest thing because I played shield and one handed. And let me tell you, using some well timed shield bashes with maxed out blocking you can completely shut any dragon down. I beat Alduin without taking damage that way and I was like 15 back then, so it's not like I was crazy good, the shield is just crazily overpowered.

[@nepnep615]

Problem is that if you don't have the health, you don't have time to shield bash. You just straight up die... The one thing I hate on legendary difficulty right here.

[@ardynizunia9709]

@@nepnep615 That's simply not true. The fast shield bash was enough to stop anything dragons do. So I honestly don't know what you're talking about. Once you get close to the enemy, they should be permanently shut down with a proper shield build. I don't need health if the enemies literally don't get to attack. Soooo, what do you mean exactly? If you got hit while trying to shield bash, thus dying before you execute the bash, then sorry but all I can say is that that is a skill issue. Skyrims combat is pretty barebones, so just trying around a bit should be more than enough for you to get it right :D Seriously, looking back as an adult, I have NO IDEA how Skyrim is popular and how I loved it as a teen. The combat is utter trash. It's the most barebones, spammy experience I've ever had. Skyrim combat on legendary is literally more spammy and braindead than a beat them up game on easy. That last part is not meant to hate on anyone, just me ranting. The damage you receive on legendary IS completely ridiculous, I agree, but a good shield build just completely negates that issue. Other builds don't have the luxury of being basically unkillable, but the combat still amounts to just spamming your best attack and maybe running away and hiding to let resources refill. It truly is a terrible, outdated combat system. Bethesda games in general are kinda like that, all of their gameplay is bad, it's just funny to explore the big worlds with the jankyness and freedom they give you.

[@nepnep615]

@@ardynizunia9709 I mean by killscreens alone. They activate when an attack starts, and they don't check armor. I totally agree with you, if you can bash, taking damage is a skill issue, but I've been killscreened enough in my skyrim days to always debate adding mods to remove them completely.

[@ardynizunia9709]

@@nepnep615 Ah, I didn't play Skyrim in a long time, so I guess I forgot how exactly the kill cam mechanic works. I just remember it being hillariously unreliable lol. Like you will soooo often get a kill cam on a projectile, but then the projectile just ends up missing the target anyways because the killcam triggers based on a targets current position and doesn't consider that they might still move out of the way xD

[@MasterPodi]

Totally feel you on this, which is why violens is so lovely. Disable Killmoves on player ✅🥳

[@starlover7190]

I didn't know ward worked against the dragon tongue 😲 I'll have to try that my next play through

[@pedrot8227]

That's why i always keep Become Ethereal shout ready

[@renshawfamily]

this is only a problem in the beginning of the game. you level up to 252 and with most points in health and you seem to be an unstoppable warrior even on legendary.

[@TibiaOTarena]

This reminds me of when I played an ultra modded Skyrim that completely changed the combat system. Everything was great except one huge flaw that pretty much ruined it until I turned off enemy death cams. It was a combination of "Requiem - hardcore mod" and some other stuff so everything did WAY more damage but blocking/parrying also negated much more damage. Problem was the kill move... An enemy did like 5% of my health if I blocked but over 100% if I didn't, so even if I was blocking the kill move could trigger and I would just die at full health behind my shield because a fucking animation would play and instantly kill me. Pretty much exactly what is happening here, just stupid.

[@dap2983]

this is why I don't feel bad about modding these out of the game.

[@The_Corn_God]

Didnt think to use wards to stop friendly conversation with a dragon. I usually just stagger them with dragonrend, but thats a good alternative if shout is on cd or something.

[@weggles91]

I feel like "don't stand in front of a dragon" is the skyrim equivalent of "don't stand behind a horse" in real life. If you don't know that already, you deserve what's coming.

[@mrosskne]

enemies don't have a finite rotation speed. you can't stand behind them.

[@eoingaskin]

@@mrosskne but you can stand far enough away to avoid the bite and still deal damage.

[@BrandedByRoses]

I had no idea you could block breath attacks with wards and i platinumed this game. But I know the feeling getting eaten like that it’s annoying 😂

[@LordParticle]

Wow for some reason I never thought about using wards to block dragon breath, I got used to using become ethereal or slow time

[@joaovictornave]

I have a mod that just 2x, or 3x, the damage on everything, with True Directional movement, Ultimate dodge mod and blocking costs stamina mods the melee fights are amazing, but that also means dragons can kill move me at full health if I’m close enough. I had to get a bow and rely more on Inigo before raising my health

[@SF91]

I always play on Legendary, thing is I grind A LOT before encountering the first dragon. I always get out Helgen at level 18 then visit the old witch near Riverwood and make her little cabin my temporary home, it's a nice little place, there's alchemy and enchanting table in the basement, then I start making money, gather enchantments and gear I need. Alchemy, enchanting and smithing are quite essential on legendary. I always visit Whiterun at level 53+

[@F2PMegaGod]

you get out of helgen at 18? meaning you grind out in helgen itself? wouldnt it be more worth it to get to riverwood, get faendal as a companion and train pickpocket, archery and sneak off him to level? because of the way the enemies level alongside you, unless you grind a combat skill in helgen you're pretty much fked in any combat encounters no? geniune questions, didnt play legendary alot but im thinking of doing a run

[@SF91]

@@F2PMegaGod you can enter sneak mode, and hit whoever you came with (Hadvar/Ralof) when you encounter the sleeping bear, i leveled my sneak up to 90 then two handed at 40 and 1h at 35, dont worry they'll not attack you, and of course after that, i sided with Faendal and get free archery training whenever i leveled up.

[@victorgalva23]

lol why u bother grinding that much on legendary if ur using exploits

[@Zigeuninja]

Anything above Expert just feels cheap and completely unbalanced

[@levi5280]

Yeah Above expert makes the game Extremely hard, especially since you take more damage an all Enemies take less damage per hit, it sucks(saying from personal experience on Legendary😅)

[@Zigeuninja]

@@levi5280 It doesnt just make the game hard, just not fun and annoying. You're literally the Dragonborn yet your average bandit deals more damage than you it's a complete joke

[@keyholegaming]

“Bro it’s a canon event”

[@frauasyl]

I'm currently playing on legendary and at level 82 and fighting a dragon is a total stressfest for this reason. To the point that I will not fight a dragon in front of it's face. I'll be behind it or on the sides of it. If I feel even the slightest bit like I'm about to get instakilled I use become ethereal. And I always instantly save the moment I hear that distant roar.

[@machoflops]

"ok I'll start with my frost ward ready and juke between these two pillars, healing when I get clipped by a melee I can't dodge, then I'll pop my stamina potion half way through the fight if he flies up otherwise I'll switch to-" *Chomp*

[@cherrygrabber7172]

It's warranted, now I get to feel what the enemies feel on my easier playthroughs. Through barely surviving as a Warrior, or get owned as a Thief when caught, or constantly healing/ summoning companions as a Mage.

[@zz8az]

Hence why the "remove dragon bite" mod is a must have

[@hiimuziwannaplay2497]

it's like cheat lol

[@Agreatdayforopportunity]

@@hiimuziwannaplay2497”cheat” no…it’s more like, “quality of life” then a cheat

[@A_Rotisserie_Chicken]

I too when fighting dragons on the ground: as they’re attacking (breath or melee), use your weapon of shield and bash them. Doing this cancels the attack. The best combo I find is bash, attack a couple times, bash, repeat.

[@Elviciozo]

Could be worse, I've gotten trapped in a save where everytime I loaded it I got instakilled by that animation