THE PERCUSSION REVOLVER 1858 remington safety

[@11bravo4victor4]

Blackie, Ranger to Ranger, you are 100% solid. Your advice is gold.

[@SteveAubrey1762]

Blackie, I have carried my 1858 Remington for 26 years with 6 chambers loaded. I did the exact modification on my repro after handling an original back in 1995. I thought I was clever coming up with this idea, and you came up with it too!😁 My wife ( R.I.P.),often teased me claiming she was sure I was a Civil War soldier in a previous life. I reenactor for 20 years so I understand her sentiments. The old guys knew what they were doing. I have always carried my Remington in a period correct replica of the Army regulation leather flap holster. In my opinion, these are the best for these old style guns.

[@swampfox5329]

I use the Army flap holster also. Not only is it functional but it looks good to.

[@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194]

I also carry my Pietta new Modle Army with my flap holster too

[@robertallen4627]

I filed a bevel on the bottom of the hammer on mine, so it would clear the back of the cylinder. Filing the cylinder means you have to either file all six notches, or pay attention and use the same notch every time. Also, if you get extra cylinders, you have to do this every time. Modify the hammer, and it works with any cylinder that will fit your gun.

[@bobsullivan5714]

I was about to make the same comment. I filed the nose of the hammer on my stainless Pieta Remmie... I carry with all 6 loaded and the hammer secured in a safety notch............I just don't see the problem with that.......The danged thing is a 6 shooter after all! I am also a believer in carrying a 1911 in condition 1. If you have to rack the slide, it ain't loaded!

[@chayan1456]

u should make a video on that

[@rick-kx7gy]

@@bobsullivan5714 With all the legality's & liability crap these days the wise content creators Must C Y O A .

[@bobsullivan5714]

@@rick-kx7gy I would argue that....But, yer right. I would probably get my ass sued off!

[@dennislane3096]

In this day and age, it's a breath of fresh air to find someone with intelligence and common sense. Thank you.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thank you

[@paraplegichistoricalsports5700]

Mr. Blackie I have ordered me a decent set of needle files so I can take apart my gun and debur it, do the safety notches, and adjust my bolt because I have a ring dug in all the around my cylinder from it. Thank you so much for this very informative series. I am watching them all!

[@Nostrildomus]

Best damn safety info-vid I've ever seen . Thanks

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

glad you enjoyed it..safe journeys

[@dontimberman5493]

Right no BS just plain sense.

[@sashasoule4585]

I love the patina on that gun. Looks like artwork.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

thanks i like it as well give it a backstory so to speak

[@jonbonner9593]

I have enjoyed watching this series and have become interested in maybe buying a cap and ball pistol but still not sure on maker or series. I have been shooting for over fifty years but detest the current tactical craze as these older guns are much more interesting . Thanks for your time and informative video.

[@nickrupp2336]

Bought mine today. Had one years ago but silly me sold it. But today I remedied that problem. Looking forward to happy shooting.

[@johnstark5324]

I have a update for this! My Pietta made this year, 2018 had the bottom of the hammer being the problem not the back of the cylinder! I went filling as shown, and sure enough it made no difference! I then looked closer and noticed the hammer planted firmly on the TOP of the cylinder. I filled a bit off the bottom of the hammer and all is cured.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

glad you got it..when i did mine i had to look close to see what was hitting as well

[@1337penguinman]

If you're not sure you could put that blue dye gunsmiths use for bedding stocks on the hammer face and see where it's hitting. I imagine something like a dry erase marker would work as well if you don't feel like buying it. Auto mechanic here, not a gunsmith, but the same principles should apply.

[@Chiefs500]

Thanks for the very useful idea. I noticed that the notches weren't quite right on the Pietta. Good fix.

[@dustinbrooks3244]

I've got my first cap and ball. I have watched all of your videos and I truly admire what you were trying to teach us.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Wonderful! good luck with your revolver

[@madmechanic7976]

My Colt walker (2020 Ubrti)looks and feels like its ready to rock and roll. I loaded it with Balls and 50 grains of 777 fffg. Your a good Dude Blacky I enjoy your show. Thanks Man!

[@TomKappeln]

You're absolutely right sir ! Even the new Ubertis are not perfect safe. Hammer rests only 0,5mm in the safty notch ! Thank you from Germany.

[@slant6guy]

WoW! I learned something new here about the 1858 Remington as I only owned one before giving it away as a Xmas gift in 2016. Am wanting a stainless sheriff version of the 1858 and I will definitely make this mod on it and tell others about this... especially my buddy I gave the brass framed 1858 Remington Buffalo to. Thumb up here...thanx Blackie!!!

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

your welcome..safe journeys

[@TheYjmfan]

Very well presented and simple remedies to improve safety

[@teampunisher7407]

Great video Blackie, I just bought this exact pistol in a pawnshop today for $140.00 it seems to be in great shape. trying to learn new things before I start out with black powder. I do reload ammunition however so I do have an idea of what to do. I also make old cowboy gun leather so I’ll be making a holster for it. Again great video & keep up the great work, Godspeed.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

safe journeys to ya

[@dennishein2812]

The ruger old army .44 had those notches and the hammer sat solidly in them. I carried six in it all the time. All of my other cap and ball or cartridge revolvers I carried 5. I also used a hammer thong on all my revolvers. That was back in the early to mid 70s.

[@james_lessick892]

Thank you Mr Blackie you're vast experience is an inspiration.

[@jeffgail99]

Truly enjoying the cap and ball series!!! I heard you once in a vid make reference to the single six, when you finish this series I would live to see a vid with your opinions on the single six. Thanks again for the effort you put in to share. Your common sense approach to the outdoors is really needed in these days of too much tech.

[@alanhope1190]

Amazing mod, so easy to do, so useful. Thank you, Blackie!

[@rackattackgamer7928]

I gotta hand it to you Blackie, you analyze and come up with solutions very well. This mod, the suggestion of the "Brass" frame "stretch" solution ring and your solution to "sucking caps" on Colts are spot on good suggestions. Pietta and/or Uberti should sign you up to make an "Official Blackie Thomas Signature Conversion 'x' Revolver" Model. ("X" being whatever one they want to modify.) Know what I mean, $$$? ;)

[@exexpat11]

Duelist and Blackie should be BP consultants to the BIG TWO game players in Cap and Ball Pistols.

[@ccl198888]

Thank you for sharing this sir. I need to do that to my 1858 Remingtons.

[@jameswoodard4304]

I was thinking of doing the same myself, so it's nice to get a second opinion. My new Uberti has an even shallower notch. It hardly takes anything to advance the cylinder onto a nipple. Obviously, this completely voids the entire purpose for the notch to exist. I am more than willing to use the empty chamber method if I can't get the notches to be at least as safe, but it would be nice to load six at least at the range.

[@kevinthomas3946]

Thank you for this bit of information I never thaught about it just the empty chamber

[@mh-oh8kf]

thanks for all the info on cap and ball revolvers. I've got a 1858 on the way thanks to your vids. Gonna make a great companion when out in the mountains

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

glad you enjoyed it i got more videos planed for this spring.. safe journeys

[@ronswisher5377]

Thanks Blackie I will look again at my Remington because I like to carry 6 .

[@leonda4817]

Thank you very much for that technical insight! I wonder if the notch was deep enough on the originals... i don't understand why they didn't make it like you in the first place.

[@Seahawksl1969]

I ordered one and I'm waiting on it to be delivered. I'm going to take a good look at the notch on mine.

[@TLDove]

Thank u sir just got first 1851 navy but was damage to frame inside. So I happen to go to shop got 1858 for steal new with an 1860s 3rd smith wes 32 rim fire for steal. I just want one now have 4 lmao an disnt shoot yet lol

[@thirdy8special]

Good tip on the safety string. I'll install one on my holster. Thx!

[@professorpewpuew]

I haven't had that happen, but then again, I never really tried to forcefully turn a cylinder when down on the safety notch. I do load all chambers up, usually just to show that it can be done with safety.

[@jerrymorris1527]

Blackie...that makes total sense! A very good idea.

[@brottarnacke]

Gooood to know. I would like to get me one of these guns one day.

[@jackalvzz]

Awesome and quick real solution, thanks for sharing

[@blackpowdershooter44]

That's a great idea! Mine has the same problem. Your antiquing job came out great! Great camera as well.

[@brianthwaites2397]

My original "1858" Remington New Model Army has exactly the same problem as the Pietta replicas but I'm certainly not filing the cylinder to fix it, but I don't shoot it or carry it anyway.

[@Billman66]

Thanks for this! I love the Remington.

[@LarryTalbot_1313]

Blackie. I don't know if you will catch this reply or not but maybe you can do a video on how you mounted that thong? Its hard to tell because you movwd it a lot, but it looks like it come from behind. I've been wanting to mount one on mine, but I don't want to deface the holster and put holes in it in the front. I've also tried to tie one on, but it moves with the leather and falls off. Yours seems like it wouldn't move in a storm and that's what I need!

[@Pencil-b4m]

I really enjoy these cap and ball vids man. Thanks

[@tomritter493]

great idea used to carry six in a f.IE or heritage arms TILL I t fell out of the leather smacked the hammer and sent a 22 a few inches away from my foot now even in a ruger or any transfer bar pistol it five and that's it !!! lol ATB ...tom

[@adammessina6182]

Very good vid sir 👍🏻 been in to blk powder lately will watch you now for some tips thanks

[@user-zh6sh8qv9k]

I had to just check with my 1858 and it absolutely did stop the cylinder from spinning although I'm not advocating for anyone to use that as a safety when sitting on an empty chaver is more effective I suppose you choose what's best for you

[@TheAtarashiiKaze]

+1 on liking these cap and all vids. great information all around.

[@independentthinker8930]

Enjoy your videos, very informative, keep up the good wrk!!

[@stephenmaulden8307]

My uberti I bought a couple months ago works without modifying anything. The hammer fully seats in the safety notch and the cylinder has zero play with hammer down.

[@jimmiefarris4218]

Very good safety video. Thanks

[@randellhillspeaks753]

Thanks Blackie God bless you

[@kenneth.handsome3443]

I don't own a pietta yet but I'm glad I seen this video so when I get one I know what to do

[@corye.1559]

Hey Blackie, really enjoy your videos and have been watching your channel every since I picked up my first 1858; now I'm hooked on soot. I have to say it's my favorite gun, hands down. Thank for the wealth of knowledge you contribute. Your channel has helped me out a great deal and not just by way of black powder. This being said, I really like your holster, but I can't find one like it anywhere. Where can I pick one up? Did you make it?

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i picked that up yrs ago from cabelas..i think they still have them

[@Orlena2525]

I have an identical one I picked up a few months ago at scheels

[@exexpat11]

Notice this wasn't just a Rem 1858 it was also a Sheriffs Model. Nice.

[@Chainsaw_18.]

A Darn Good Tip ! Thanks !!

[@rickcox1495]

Blackie, i love your vids, very informative. Thank you. Can you tell me how it is your cylinder spins so freely? And how you got that grey finish? Not brown but that beautiful grey.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i polish the base pin and add groves to allow grease to lube cyl rotation..as to grey finish look at my videos i do a step by step on how to get that grey

[@billfergusonpastor674]

Do you give hands on in-person instruction? Where are you located?

[@leighrate]

Your alternatives would be a full flap holster (worth considering as a treated leather holster will protect the gun from rain etc) or a thumb break release retention strap over the hammer.

[@arnold7156]

can you clean blach powder with solvents or denatured alcohol

[@BertieW0oster]

In a good holster that protects the gun, why isn't the Colt design also sufficient? I can see those pins breaking if you're throwing the gun around, but under normal carry conditions it seems to be locked in tight.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

usually you are correct..its when you look at many of the originals and the pins are gone..they are thin and easy to be bent from rough handleing ..plus the shock of firing can loosen them..i have used the pins on mine to good effect..BUT..you must notice the condition of the pins..every time you use them..if the pin lets go..it will be easy for the hammer to slip past and if a heavy mainspring is used snap down on the next cap..i was not there but a close friend was drawing a 1851 navy to shoot a snake ..as he pulled the gun with his finger off the trigger it went off..on closer looking he found the pin was missing and he had let hammer down on the gap..all he could figure was the act of drawing may have caused the cyl to rotate just enough....i hope this helps..safe journeys

[@BertieW0oster]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS thank you, yes that makes sense. I have an 1851 Navy that I load with 6, but when I put the hammer down on the pin I always wiggle the cylinder back and forth to make sure it caught. Also checking the pins is part of my routine cleaning inspection. My NAA mini revolver is similar.

[@ronaldgansler8812]

I have the perfect safety for my 1858 new model navy, I can’t find any percussion caps to shoot the gun, very distressing.

[@johnblankenship5351]

My Pietta 1858 Remington is fitted with a Taylor's and Company cartridge conversion cylinder. Why are there no safety notches? Could they be safely milled into the said cylinder without damage?

[@exexpat11]

Kurst and Howell Conversions did not include the notch for a reason and I am sure it has something to do with the engineering. Taylor has the rights to one or both designs if I recall.

[@dennisdanich7190]

The Pietta I just bought locks nice and tight

[@P61guy61]

Very good video. Thank you for posting.

[@cunninglinguist9853]

Nice job. Thank you sir.

[@cjlures8618]

Would you recommend a pieta or a Uberti. thank you

[@RemovableElm]

I have this exact issue. Good video.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Cool, thanks

[@MCB9537]

Excellent. Thank you.

[@DasJackalope]

Great video and nice hat!

[@Tazdrev]

That's good to know. Good video.

[@samwilliams1142]

The same safety is used for the North American Arms revolver. Only those don't have the cylinder problem.

[@ManWithNoName.]

Can I file these grooves on the conversion cylinders for 45LC as well? Since they have that fake nipple thing going on?

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

should be able to

[@stevenmathis5059]

Can you give me some info on the holster you used here?

[@exploringtheworld7597]

where did you get your holster at

[@jefflang6271]

A Remington-related question. I have a stainless Pietta from the late 90's. The original mainspring was so stiff it peened the hell out of the nipples and was very difficult to cock. I replaced it with another Pietta spring which is about 15%-20% lighter but it is still way to stiff. Any suggestions as to where to get a normal remmie spring?

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

dixie gun works are very good with helping you find what you need give them a call and talk to a tech..hope this helps

[@jefflang6271]

Thanks Blackie.

[@0570965]

Thank you for the knowledge.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

THANK YOU ...for watching..safe journeys

[@RovanRS]

1:43 You made me worry for a little while. I checked and this problem does not occur in my Remington revolvers (made by Uberti).

[@TomKappeln]

Watch closer ! My Uberti, the hammer rests only 0,5mm in the safety notch ! It does NOT turn, but a half mm is not safe.

[@antilaw9911]

Can fire 44spl cowboy loads in this?

[@dennisdanich7190]

Pietta must have seen your video all my guns lock up solid I cannot rotate the cylinder at all, my oldest gun was made in 2016

[@benjaminjarrett5705]

That is awesome!

[@Ballenxj]

I'll have to check mine for this, meanwhile thumb up.

[@stevenwojtak7676]

The safest way to carry a revolver is in a full flap holster like the military use.

[@adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder]

Great information !

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Glad it was helpful!

[@treeclimbing7798]

Very good vid ...Safety 1st

[@colecole3352]

Hey Blakie I just got a conversion cylinder from Taylor & Company. I am considering making a safetu notch. Like on the regular cylinder. What do you think

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i have not played with them much but in theroy it sounds good ..but be sure your not going to weaken or in some way effect the firing pins

[@colecole3352]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS That is excalty my thoughts. It looks like it can be done safely. I am not much of a gambling man these days.🤣 I will continue to look into it tho. Thank you for your reply.

[@lazystar1969]

Great video. Thanks! Question: I had the same Pietta …and foolishly got rid of it. I'm now in the market for another. What is the finish on yours? It looks like it was once blued ? Or is it a stainless one?? thanks.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

it was blued i stripped it and antiqued it

[@lazystar1969]

Yep! I just watched your videos on it. Excellent work Blackie!

[@alejandrososa3969]

Best review 💯

[@josephhaack5711]

What holster is that?

[@kevinnicholson5630]

Ok more to learn. good info

[@100realworldamericanpatrio9]

great video buddy

[@Seahawksl1969]

I've been trying to find a holster for my 5.5" 1858 Remington Pietta. Where can I find them?

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

sportsmans guide not long ago had a replica of a 1918 s&w holster my 5 inch 58 sheriff fits it snug..they were at a good price as i recall

[@Seahawksl1969]

@@BLACKIETHOMAS Thank you Blackie. I'll take a look over there.

[@peckerwoodcustoms]

I live in eufaula, al and just got a remington new army, where are you getting black powder supplies? I've looked all over dothan

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i have a good supply of goex from a blackpowder club i was in now gone..i have bought goex in the past from the gun barn in geneva of hardens in newton..you might try them

[@peckerwoodcustoms]

blackoracle69 hardens wasn't open yet and I had to work that night so I had to get back to eufaula, I've purchased everything to make my own black powder and have a ball mill built if I can find a motor strong enough to turn it, burnt up 2 motors so far

[@peckerwoodcustoms]

Resorted to ordering percussion caps online and paid dearly for them, they will be delivered some time this afternoon, ive gotten a ball mold and 15#s lead to cast

[@HendelZawodowiec]

Zajebisty filmik :-)

[@ehud59]

Thanks for you! You can it!!! 🤠

[@Lukas.Chludzinski]

I’ve always said that the reproductions companies just looked at the gun and didn’t see the full functionality.

[@drakenilesovnguard8718]

Awesome video thanks

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@dekalbtxx]

Blackoracal can you load conicals on this gun and what size ?

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

i have not used those in this gun yet but i will

[@maciejhaleniuk5129]

I have Uberti 2022 5'5inch and there is no problem with those notches.Looks like it was solved in the factory

[@gregs5295]

Great video

[@IndianOutlaw1870]

"Hammer thong" is what I've always called it.

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

yep for lack of a better term often it was loop of rawhide thong that was stiff

[@James_Barris]

Yep👍

[@Eidetiken]

Where did you get your 5 1/2 Remington holster?

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

a few yrs ago from cabelas

[@BruckeOutdoors]

hey blackie, what do you recommend for a holster?

[@BLACKIETHOMAS]

+Timothy Brucke not a fair question since i make lots of my own holsters..but the one you see me useing in these videos came from cabela's and was like 20 bucks..they are good leather and hold up really well thanks for the comment safe journeys