The Perfect Tudor Black Bay 'Pespi' GMT Homage? | San Martin SN0109 Review

[@AlexanderB.]

Excellent watch, I have to say. They got it right at the first attempt or version. No overcooked faux patina and stuff. The first thing I look at on this kind of watch is how the end links fit into the lugs and on this one it really looks impressive. Very nicely done. Have to tried the hot water trick to fix the bezel alignment? Excellent review mate!

[@LumePip]

They definitely don’t really need to do much with a V2! Good point! I actually should look into that 😢I’m not very good at mods etc so would be worried about ballsing it up further - but I’ll definitely give it a go and let you know how I get on 💪🏻would you give one of these a try??

[@AlexanderB.]

@@LumePip Do you mean whether I would buy one of these? I bought too many watches so I try to hold off temptations atm. Certainly the watch is very appealing. I successfully used the hot water method a few times.

[@LumePip]

@@AlexanderB. I have the same problem, mate 😅 I’m obviously not as sensible as you haha. I really need to try this, then! I’m guessing there are KZbin tutorials👌🏻

[@AlexanderB.]

@@LumePip It's simple, run hot water over the watch, this'll temporarily loosen up the adhesive of the bezel insert. Just push it the way you want to and finalise by switching to cold water.

[@LumePip]

@@AlexanderB. Holy fu***ng sh**, it worked! Thanks, mate - what a solid you've done me there. (I'm sure lots of people know this trick and are wondering how some wannabe watch KZbinr doesn't, but I have more than just this going on in my life lol. I need help.) Thank you!

[@sblaney66]

I've had this watch for a few days now and if we forget that its a homage, what you get is a watch with the new Seiko GMT movement, sapphire glass, a screw down crown, and a bi-directional GMT bezel (which is alined correctly), all for a very competitive price. I think it's great!

[@RollingShutter]

I bought this version as a "try out" version, to see if I would really like to spend my money on the Tudor GMT, after wearing the sn109 for half a year and not getting tired of it, I went to my Tudor AD to try one on and order it. I truly could not get over the huge polished slapsided side wall of the Tudor. It made it feel incredibly top heavy even on my 19cm wrist. So unfortunately I had to pass on the original and kept the hommage.

[@thegorn]

I love this piece. Such a better shape than the original. I bought the Black Bay Heritage 41 with in house movement. It was almost 15mm thick (14.75 they say online), and with those thick slab sides it wore like an absolute dog. So sold it. A couple of years later I saw one of the ETA Black Bay Heritage 41 come into a pre-owned seller and it was a safe queen and I tried it on and it was waaaay better than any in-house Tudor, so I bought it. My home calipers measure it at 12.70mm thick so 2mm thinner which makes a hell of a difference. So I was never going to get the Tudor GMT which is even thicker at 15mm. I plan on getting this and if anyone says "aww it's not the Tudor" I'll tell them to get effed and Tudor can get effed too until they make watches at non-stupid thicknesses again.

[@LumePip]

That's a really interesting insight. I think the problem Tudor's having with in-house movements is the thickness. Like the BB Pro, for example - all anyone talks about is how the thickness either DOES or DOESN'T make it wearable/unwearable. That might be why the BB58 and Pelagos 39 have done so well. They're in-house, but also just time-only three-handers so no extra GMT stuff, plus they're 200m water restistant as opposed to 300m. That also might play into being more appealing to the masses of enthusiasts who love the designs but can't stomach the potential dimensions. But you're right, San Martin nailed it here

[@thegorn]

@@LumePip BB58 has brilliant proportions. I don’t like the fake rivets but they aren’t terrible. I’d like to see something in that size from Tudor with a rich gloss black dial and gloss ceramic bezel but Rolex won’t let them as it would take away from the submariner. The fake rivets are basically there not so much for the vintage aesthetic, but as a forced design separation from “modern Rolex”. They want to keep Tudor “vintage” and Rolex “modern”. In older times it was all about differences in movement quality, fit and finish. Now it’s just arbitrary marketing/pricing difference. So we will never see a Tudor submariner ever again.

[@LumePip]

@@thegorn funnily enough I kind of bring this up in my next video. I just wish Tudor’s prices wouldn’t keep going up. When I bought the BB58, it was about £700 less than it is now! 😤

[@Tangylives]

I did try the new burgandy BB41 recently and it's what the 41 should've been originally. Thinner, wears better and just more refined. Also more expensive :(

[@thegorn]

​@Tangylives definitely a step in the right direction for sure. So bizarre they just update one of the colorways and not all of them.

[@clifforddriver9434]

Brother, never loose that sence of humor it's what set's you apart from everybody else!

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much!!

[@Iexpedite1]

I don't know when I subscribed to this channel. I can't remember watching anything on it before. However, I really enjoyed this video. I'm not a homage guy, but the delivery was funny and interesting and I watched the whole video. I rarely watch complete videos. You just kept dropping comedy nuggets here and there. Skipping ahead risked missing some one liners. Well done...

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much indeed! That really means a lot and hope you enjoy some of the other stuff I've done, homage-related or not - always welcome here :)

[@erikvermeulen9295]

Fantastic high quality/profesionally video! Amazing shots of the watch and well edited/mixed together...well done! These San Martin watches are getting better and better and since i know that even the so popular moonwatch/speedmaster is a hommage to a Rodania I have no problems anymore with having a hommage watch on the wrist.

[@LumePip]

Thanks so much for saying so, Erik! Honestly, if you don’t have the funds/don’t want the originals, these are MORE than serviceable. Watches are a great hobby but they’re also often a prohibitively expensive one - these make it a much more stomach-able and justifiable expense 😅

[@WristWatching]

How have I only now just found you? Excellent production quality and I love the humour. You’ve got yourself a sub. Personally, I love this watch more than their BB Pro homage.

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much for saying so, I really appreciate that! I’m eyeing up the Pro homage now… Now they’re doing it with the NH34, it seems a no-brainer. Although I’m all about a date complication, it’d be nicer without one in the Pro’s case, I think 🧐

[@WristWatching]

@@LumePip would be great to see a comparison! ;)

[@MarkDanger777]

Man thank you so much for reviewing this watch! I kept looking for actual pics of this watch but couldn't find any

[@LumePip]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Hope it helped you make your mind up on it 😅😅

[@DinoB12]

I hope your channel continues to grow! Watched almost all of your videos today and you do a great job reviewing the items in front of you and can get your audience to smile while walking some invisible lines 😂😂. Rooting for your success 👍🏾

[@LumePip]

That’s a absolutely amazing to read - thank you so much. I’m so glad people are enjoying what I’m putting out. I hope I can keep going and get more and more vids together on more and more watches 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

[@josuedavidcastro6502]

Mine arrives today 🎉, thanks for the review

[@AnhLe-di7si]

I really liked your video on the Certina DS-4 and ended up buying the silver dial one and am still loving it. Glad to see more stuff from you!

[@LumePip]

Thanks so much for saying so, and really glad you like the videos 🤘that really means a lot!

[@harrietboulding1459]

VERY impressive video/short film. Lots of effort and hard work clearly gone on here. Nice one!!

[@LumePip]

Submitting it to the Oscars in the shorts category 🩳

[@billsomerset238]

That blue and red strap is perfect.

[@richardtyler9407]

Very good video and review. Really enjoyed the humor too.

[@LumePip]

Thank you so much for saying so, Richard 🙌🏻🙏🏻

[@kanemillard3315]

Great video and comedy as always

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much, Kane! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻glad you think so

[@djzrobzombie2813]

​@@LumePip what do you think about the San Martin GMT master 2 batman homage ?

[@LumePip]

@@djzrobzombie2813 If they started doing it with the NH34, I'd buy it in a heartbeat! Especially if they put it on the jubillee bracelet and did the hidden clasp as (I think) they used to do with one of their datejust homages, although that was with the President-style bracelet.

[@noelmurphy3450]

Thank you , super & informative review. Cheers Noel

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much, Noel!

[@eugenevedensky6071]

Really wonderful to see this one in the metal (on video). Love the writing as usual, it genuinely reminds me of Andrew from WatchFinder, and I mean that as a compliment

[@LumePip]

That IS a compliment - thanks so much for saying so, Eugene 😄Another solid watch from SM here. Good news for us watch nerds but bad news for the wallet again...

[@eugenevedensky6071]

@@LumePip I know I think I’m gonna bite the bullet and get this one

[@victorcatch]

One of your best videos.....thank you!

[@LumePip]

Thanks for saying so, Ibrahim!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@holokron1337]

The point system is a great idea! With regards to the watch, it looks excellent which is to be expected from San Martin. Great video 😁

[@LumePip]

Thanks for the feedback, mate! I really appreciate that. As for the watch, it’s a beauty. If the bezel was aligned correctly, I think it’d be a keeper for me. I might just ask WatchDives to honour the warranty and replace like for like because of that - will have to check… 😝And thank you for the kind words 🙌🏻

[@johnmonachelli5256]

San martin reviews are always welcome

[@billsomerset238]

Well your right when you said this not your regular watch review. Good job.

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much, Bill! I hope you continue to enjoy the videos 🙌🏻

[@brianmurphy8154]

First off "This is 40" is hilarious. That aside...Great video...SM gradually has become more pricey which makes it more difficult for the buyer to justify. I buy off of WatchDives as well, they usually have the best price without Alie shipping that takes way to long. Im not sure I agree with your score on branding. SM's use to have a such inconsistency with their branding. A shark on the crown, a scripted San Martin on the dial, then the hex on the clasp. All on the same watch...at least now they stay pretty consistent. I love SM's, they do make a great watch...it just gets hard when they push their price near $400...If they can make pieces like this for under $330 or so they do have a lot of bang for the buck. Side note, your channel is becoming one of my absolute favorites. The drop in edits, like writing home about the caseback, is freaking hilarious. Those little add ons in your videos really make them entertaining, IMO. You give great information and insights, as well as some really great camera shots. All of that, coupled with the sarcastic add ons, really is great, keep it up!

[@LumePip]

Haha, maybe I was a little harsh on This Is 40 - I think compared to some of those other gems (Knocked Up, Superbad, The 40-Year-Old Virgin) it had a lot to live up to. I think you're right on the branding - they absolutely needed some consistency. That shark used to look insane; like something you won at a fair. The finishing it just exceptional - I'd actually pay a bit more for some of these GMT models if they offered them with a Swiss-made movement like they do some of the conventional three-handers. This watch with a Sellita SW330-2?! Take my money! (Creditcard approval pending...) But with the Seiko movements, I'd agree they need to keep that value factor in tact! And it's always lovely to read comments like these - I'm so glad you enjoy them and that it's as fun to watch as it is to make. Thanks so much for saying so!

[@brettroach5287]

I really do appreciate a smooth case back even a smooth and undecorated one. They feel comfortable on wrist, allow for a thinner watch than with an exhibition back, and leave room if you do want to engrave it. Honestly wish more brands would just cap off the back like this because It always feels to me more of a premium choice, as most low to mid range movements are nothing special to look at as well as adding thickness for something you aren't going to see most of the time you wear the watch.

[@stewartboyd3128]

Good review. I have GMT Master 2 and also this model. Accuracey wise the San Martin is running at -1 sec a day out of the box the rolex is -5. Not what I was expecting. The feel and quality of the rolex is there but guess whats on my wrist 99.9% of the time, the San martin Its a good looking watch, clear, accurate, the bracelelet being fully brushed takes a beating and still looks new. The rolex bracelet scratches as you put it on. Pees me off, forever polishing those centre links. If you want accuracy and quality at a good price go and buy a casio MTG from japan +- 0 secs a year and the build quality is class. Had mine 5 years and no scratches, DLC coating.

[@1SaG]

... and just for the algorithm, here's another comment: I did buy the black dial version shortly after I posted my first comment and the watch is still in my collection. It's on my wrist as I'm typing this, actually. :) I still think that it's a great piece for what the money - the level of finishing and the overall detailing are quite remarkable, considering the price. Perhaps not as good or "complicated" as on my Christopher Ward, but certainly within striking distance of Steinhart. Cons on my example: 1. GMT-hand is misaligned and not in a fixable, "constant" manner. Probably an issue with the NH34 in general or with the NH34 in my example. At least that's what my watch-maker thought. 2. Clasp has minor issues that *could* result in it coming undone inadvertently. Nothing serious, and it hasn't actually come undone once while I was wearing it. But one of the pushers doesn't properly "reset" when you push only it in. Meaning if you push and release the first trigger and then push in the other trigger without touching the first one again, the clasp can open. The "plate" within the clasp that houses the two triggers moves a tiny bit when I manipulate the triggers - looks like a minor QC-issue. 3. Re-starting the movement after setting the time can be tricky. If you don't do it carefully, the minute hand will "jump" and you'll need to set the time again. Could also be an issue with the NH34 and not with the watch or its crown. None of these points are deal-breakers for me - the watch looks and wears great and punches well above its price-tag, IMO. I love the lume and the colors on the bezel-insert. I'm usually not a fan of aluminium Pepsi-bezels, but this one looks awesome, thanks to the darker, more saturated looking red and blue. Also: The lume is very bright, long lasting and very evenly applied.

[@mwade6982]

Love the comedic approach. 👏👏😁

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@ArtoftheDial]

Normally I don't care about GMT watches, but this one is what I'd want if buying one.

[@jasons2562]

Nice review which strap is that at 5:33? I just ordered one of these watches :)

[@LumePip]

Ah, sorry, thought I'd responded to this! It was actually a free nato that San Martin/Watchdives threw in with the watch. I'd wager it's a generic one with their hardware, but I'd just try AliExpress or Amazon or something, or even CNS/Crown and Buckle to get one of theirs. :)

[@drwindsurf]

Adjusting the insert is super easy (so is swapping out the insert for that matter). If you aren't happy with it, I have only had excellent interactions with the customer service at SM. Thank you for a great video

[@mrgee007]

Just came across this channel looking at Tudor vids, and I like what I see, cracking shots and colour correction, made this SM look the mutts. I own a few Tudors, and I'm starting to feel like we're getting bummed up the rear by these big brands, when SM can produce this GMT for £300! You have to ask yourself the question, is the Tudor GMT 11 x better than this SM. Of course not! I suppose that's the power of branding.....

[@artieshell9205]

Great video!! You nailed it.

[@LumePip]

Thanks, mate!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@kaunas88]

If it is a homage, duplicate or copy, there is absolutely nothing wrong with faithfully copying the original; that is the whole point.

[@wingi7722]

Excellent review. Good job!

[@LumePip]

Thanks so much 🙌🏻

[@multipl3]

This is absolutely PERFECT!!!

[@LumePip]

It’s a beaut, all right 🔴🔵

[@kevjaffray]

Great video mate, very entertaining. I've a fixed bezel GMT (SN0054-G-B1) on its way.

[@LumePip]

Oh, very nice! Which colour did you go for?? And thank you for the kind words!

[@RansonJoe]

Great review

[@LumePip]

Thanks, Dan!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@kevinmccullough2616]

Thank you for putting this up la

[@LumePip]

🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@boldmeregarden637]

Great review and a great newly subscribed channel. Im not bothered by the design as its an homage. So im reading this as 24/30 or an 8/10 score.

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much! I think I’m kind of obliged to not credit any ‘design’ from SM on this, but if the homage thing just doesn’t bother you, it’s honestly an 8/10 easy! 😅You might even give it a slightly higher score if you like putting it on different straps etc!

[@robertmcnee682]

Quality review as always

[@michaeldasilva5079]

Hi there great video. I was considering buying one of these before I saw the recent Cronos version, which I ended up buying. The dimensions are the same as the original and it comes with a fully lumed bezel.

[@michaeladam8696]

Great video. Keep up the entertainment!

[@008tobe]

Brilliant video. Where did you get this red blue strap from? Looks amazing with the watch...

[@LumePip]

Thank you, Tobias! I actually got it included with my order - a nice surprise, but wasn't to my tastes. Nevertheless, very good quality and definitely in keeping with the bezel insert colour scheme. I ordered it from WatchDives! I'm sure if you ask them to include it with your order, they'll be happy to do so: watchdives.com/en-gb/collections/hot-sale/products/san-martin-nh34-bb-gmt-watch-sn0109

[@008tobe]

@@LumePip appreciate it, thanks

[@mwu_10]

Great video! Congrats! No doubt SM it's a great homage and the finishing is superb. I own two models, the SN008 - PT5000 and SN015 - Hangzhou 6460. I've bought the BB58 mode firstl, which impressed me a lot! When I decided to go ahead with a pepsi gmt no question my impression and experience with the first model had a big influence. However, if you need to apply the warranty, it's really painful and time consuming process, my SN008 had an issue after couple of months of wearing it, so I contacted SM "customer service", long story short, the customer service is simply awful. Took me almost a year and after "tons" of message exchange to have the watch replaced. I just own these 2 models, and seems that they are facing some quality issues with the Hangzhou 6460, in some forums you often see similar issues with the watch (quality) and complains about the customer service.

[@LumePip]

Thanks so much!! The PT5000 movements haven’t given me any issues at all, but I waited until they started doing Seiko-powered GMT models before going for one. It’s a shame about the customer service - is that through SM directly? I think WatchDives handles the warranty of their sales, but not sure about the brands directly through Ali et al. I’m hoping I don’t need it but am considering asking for my bezel to get sorted but maybe it’s not worth the hassle based on your experience!

[@mwu_10]

@@LumePip I made a mistake when writing the comment, actually the issue was with the SN015, the Hangzhou movement, not the SN008 - PT5000, which is working like a charm, no issues at all. I think the PT5000 is a great movement and it has proven that, no complains so far. But the Hangzhou 6460 seems that is not the case, also I've noticed that the quality have decreased significantly, perhaps I had a bad luck but reading the foruns looks like that is not only me facing this kind of experience. Regarding the customer service, yes I did through SM directly.

[@thegorn]

Did you fill out the date of purchase and watch model yourself? My copy of this watch arrived yesterday (finally pulled the trigger after I dropped a comment 5 months ago saying I was going to get it). Had been sleeping on it for a while. I love this so much more than the Tudor - which just looks wrong with its big polished slab sides, riding tall on the wrist, with faux rivets and weird looking crown. San Martin gets it right whereas the Tudor gets it horribly wrong. It just goes to show what listening to the watch buying public can do. San Martin get great feedback and execute accordingly, whereas the Swiss companies have their heads stuck up their own asses. I love the San Martin hex logo on this - matches the snowflake hands really well. I put it on the on-the-fly adjustable bracelet. Could do with some half-links but no too bad. My bezel is bang-on straight. Zero blue tint for the AR. I give design 10/10 as they do it better than Tudor. Movement is probably 8/10. Price is 10/10 during AliExpress sales. Execution I give a 8/10. Only marks down for no-half links, and the underside of the bracelet is a little bit of a potato peeler - maybe I will take a pumice stone to that but will see how I go.

[@LumePip]

Ah, nice one, mate! The sale is always the way to go with these things. And you're right about the bracelet - I don't know why they still have issues with sharpness, as, like you point out, they're usually so good at listening to community feedback and adjusting stuff accordingly. I must say, though, I have the latest Pelagos homage in titanium and there's barely any sharpness to speak of, barring the underside of the lugs, but that's it, and it doesn't lessen the wearability. So is it going to be a keeper for you? I've got to admit, since selling this, I've had my eye on the white dial version. That on a jubilee-style bracelet with the on-the-fly clasp would be sweeeeeeet

[@thegorn]

@@LumePip Definite a keeper for me. I have it on the on-the-fly adjustable clasp but the issue is that I’m between links so if I take a link out, I have to adjust the clasp all the way out, with no room if my wrist swells. Put a link in and I have to adjust the clasp all the way in, and it’s still not quite tight enough to stop it sliding down over the wrist bone like a gangster mob boss. Needs half links as each oyster link is quite long. I have the San Martin jubilee coming tomorrow and will try that. Individual jubilee links are usually shorter than oyster links, and thus don’t require half links, so I’ll probably get a good fit with it. Hopefully it’s not a cheese grater underside.

[@LumePip]

@@thegornHow is the jubilee working out for you, mate? I've got another SM in right now and I only removed two links. I think they need to start providing more links or making half links, at least for their most commonly included bracelets

[@NeverStark]

Very enjoyable review and impressive footage. Would it be too bold to inquire about your wrist size?

[@LumePip]

Thanks, mate! It’s 6.5 inches 👍🏻👍🏻

[@sierra0884]

instant follow with the little jokes. hahaha. great review. Im debating on this watch vs a MOD Sieko BATMAN/BATGIRL

[@comeonman7423]

Thanks for the video, do you reckon its not too risky to buy from watchdives?

[@LumePip]

Not at all! I bought this from there and it was a very speedy delivery, plus the warranty is a longer one than the one offered on AliExpress from the SM store (that's 2 years, but with WatchDives it's 3)

[@comeonman7423]

@@LumePip thanks so much, this is the first time I’m buying like this so that gives me confidence

[@123ClassicRock]

Currently wearing the Tudor black bay GMT. I wish it had GMT dial text in red like this!

[@LumePip]

That is a nice flourish! I’ll bet the Tudor OG is aligned, though 🤣

[@900swalker]

what’s the additional cost to buy this watch and have it sent to the UK? Is it 20% VAT to be added and also another 20% import duty? Great video by the way! Thanks

[@LumePip]

Thanks bud. All in all, I paid £265 - I didn’t have to pay any import duty when it arrived. I think it might’ve already been covered in the cost of the delivery/item. But I double checked the confirmation email and it’s not mentioned anything there. I did get a $20 discount code which was on the website when I ordered it, though!

[@marcuscarlgren6994]

I really think your form for the reviews😊😊

[@Michael-rp6lk]

I am going to buy one!

[@LumePip]

I think you’ll be very happy you did 😅👍🏻

[@PlanI8skate]

Brother you did a great job on this video you inspired me to purchase it haha great jokes too

[@LumePip]

Thanks so much, Kaleb! 🙏🏻

[@manzahalem8845]

Good stuff. Subscribed.

[@LumePip]

Thanks, pal!

[@kaunas88]

I like the red and blue Pepsi dial. The all back dial combined with the black face is just a bit too much black for me.

[@yellowcbrf4i]

The bezel colors look like black/red, is that right? If so it’s a “Coke” not a “Pepsi”.

[@rickhammel9541]

make this in a 42mm and you have a winner

[@justinholmes5614]

I tried on the Tudor recently. It’s too slab sided, thick and the polished sides spoil it. I think this cheap one actually looks better with shorter brushed sides and a taller bezel.

[@Fozec]

Is it any sharp edges on the watch? Like bezel, clasp or braclet?

[@LumePip]

On this one, I've been pleasantly surprised. It's nowhere near as sharp as some other SMs I've had!

[@Fozec]

@@LumePip sounds awesome ! I will get mine today 😁

[@LumePip]

@@Fozec Ah, nice one - let me know what you think!! 🙌

[@Fozec]

@@LumePip got it today! WOW.. i totally recommend everyone to buy this was if you dont have any issue with "homage" watches. I was REALLY impressed by the quality of this. Easy to size, great fit. No sharp edges (i had one SM before and it had some sharp edges thats why i sold it). Overall, 9/10 in score from me :) Thank you for pushing me over to the buy button :)

[@simonbailey2151]

Brushed sides and a better bracelet. Great work

[@davidvincent3853]

beautiful but San Martin should reduce the distance between lug to lug to a maximum of 47mm so everybody can wear. them

[@LumePip]

I reviewed their BB36 homage too, and I think that’s kind of a perfectly sized watch - particularly for smaller wrists!

[@davidvincent3853]

@@LumePip Thank you for your reply but I already have it. I am looking for a GMT.

[@NeoWahNah]

Like the Tudor GMT design but don't want to pay the price? Def a worthy consideration!

[@AleCardenasRealtor]

San Martin is so good

[@karlsenula9495]

Would love it if San Martin also did the BB Pro homage - I personally (and I know it is a matter of personal taste) like the look better than the Pepsi. Good specs and quality for the price.

[@LumePip]

I’ve good news… a.aliexpress.com/_EGVbk6H I’m considering going for one myself! 😝

[@karlsenula9495]

@@LumePip NICE! Thanks for the heads up.

[@paultollervey2635]

@@LumePip I’d be happy to trade you the San Martin BB Pro for the Pepsi if you wanted to show that on your channel too….they are both lovely watches.

[@LumePip]

@@paultollervey2635 I’ll get in touch once I’ve done some more filming of this one as I’m doing a comparison soon…no spoilers haha. My email is on my banner photo on my profile. Would happily look into a trade as and when I can!

[@punkracio]

I just received the Pagani design versión (67€). Pretty deccent watch!

[@LumePip]

Nice! 💪🏻

[@Godotlv5000]

I love this guy 😂

[@LumePip]

Thanks, bud - I love you too 🤙🏻😅

[@wristcandy5451]

I love it

[@WhoIsSerafin]

I don’t care about using a gmt as a second time zone. But instead using it as a timer or countdown timer

[@fdloop]

The mouvement is not a seiko it’s a Chinese hangzou mouvement. It’s wrttten black on white on their website

[@LumePip]

Not in this model - this is from WatchDives and can assure you it’s an NH34. watchdives.com/en-gb/products/san-martin-nh34-bb-gmt-watch-sn0109

[@clausvilliam]

Open your eyes. Right under "case diameter 39mm" it says "bezel 39,8mm"

[@fontyyy]

the sole reason you'd buy this not the Tudor is the price, so if that's what you want to say about yourself, go for it.

[@AldogContentNetwork]

Great review, cool watch. Wish I hadn't watched it 🤣 my wallet needs a break

[@LumePip]

Thanks very much! Well, maybe wait for a sale or something…if you can wait that long 😅well worth a look

[@1SaG]

Not sure you can use the "lack of design" against this one. After all: People who buy this and other similarly styled SM watches buy them *because* of their "lack of originality". Just ask SM themselves who have stated that their original designs don't really sell all that well. I am very close to pulling the trigger on this model - I was looking at ceramic Pepsi homages, and Steinhart was out since I've already owned a bunch of those (and still have two) and I want a different case-shape. Plus I don't like the 120 click dive-bezel they put on their GMTs. Which led me to the Cronos and SM Pepsi models but, to me, they look too similar to the real deal. I just don't want to come across as a poser ... :) I doubt any non watch-nerd would know about the Tudor GMT, so there's not a huge risk of having to get into conversations about homage-watches and how they're not fakes. Plus I prefer the smaller size and more subdued looks of this one over the modern-day Rolex homages.

[@LumePip]

That's a good point! But neither do I think I can give out points FOR the design, if you get me. Credit is definitely owed somewhere for this badass design, but not owed to SM! 😅 And great point about the whole recognisable homage thing. It's definitely one of those things that I reckon still bugs even the LEAST insecure homage-wearing of us - "Is that a real Rolex?" Like a dagger to the eart every* (both*) time. I'd probably pick up another of these, maybe in the white - especially as Tudor are now even making one. It's a solid piece. Probably the best SM I've handled of late. But more reviews of theirs coming soon.

[@moabdel819]

Woulda been perfect on a jubilee.

[@UGA.D]

Joke to content ratio is off the charts. I think it detracts from the video IMHO. I had to bail before the end because I just couldn't take the constant braking.

[@LumePip]

Fair enough, mate. I’ve watched enough channels with videos of somebody literally talking me through a spec sheet without any care or effort. I’m not doing that, and I don’t watch many watch reviews on KZbin for that reason. But the beauty of KZbin is if that’s something you want, chances are, someone’s done it and it’ll be there. And if someone hasn’t, well, there’s no stopping you from doing it yourself 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@DeepFriedDoom]

YASSS another wee Scottish watch reviewer to throw on the pile!

[@LumePip]

whilst I'm sure the pile's cool, I'm from Merseyside... 😅

[@marko8698]

About as Scottish as Jimmy Hill

[@snacklofter]

👍👍

[@WATCH-4U]

SAN MARTIN really need address there ALIGNEMENT bezel Issues..ive two san martins one ive had to adjust fully to line up the other is slightly off which im not that fussy to alter but as youve stated theyre getting dearer on all models and fit n finish is excellent so plz S.M sort your BEZEL ALIGNMENT OUT OVER ALL YOUR MODELS...

[@LumePip]

Yeah, definitely starting to hear more and more people say they’ve had QC issues - I think it’s the exception and not the rule but it’s not a good look. To me it looks like complacency after building a lot of goodwill with a few years of solid pieces. They need to remember that that is what separates them from the competition!

[@drewsykes8152]

The indices just look a little oversized. Otherwise very hard to fault!

[@LumePip]

Maybe they modelled them a little bit on Rolex’s maxi dials and had some parts from their other Submariner-type homages. Superbly finished though! For me, I just wish the logo was a bit bigger, or wider or something, to differentiate it more easily from the markers

[@drewsykes8152]

@@LumePip Yeh probably. Unfortunately I don’t like the more modern maxi look. Agreed on the logo! I also just find the bottom edge of their cases oddly sharp and can’t help but wish for a more robust 200m WR. Nitpicking but being so close to perfection makes these small details that bit more annoying.

[@anthonyonline4740]

Holy moly. Over 3 minutes of waffle.

[@LumePip]

Wait until you find out how long it takes to put together and edit that waffle…all for free. I actually acknowledged that basically this exact comment would happen, so fair play for adhering to what I thought might be too simplistic a response. You have the choice to just skip ahead. 😊

[@anthonyonline4740]

@@LumePip I'm aware it takes a long time for editing etc. I used to do watch videos myself. I'm personally waiting for the GMT master 2 homage to be released with the Seiko movement from SM with the jubilee bracelet. Pagani do it, but SM strangely have kept thier lower grade Chinese GMT movement in what is one of this most expensive watches. Very strange.

[@anthonyonline4740]

@@LumePip I have your video a thumbs up by the way, I'm good like that. A nice guy.

[@karlsenula9495]

Mmmmm ... did someone say waffles ... I love waffles with maple syrup.

[@anthonyonline4740]

@@karlsenula9495 I appreciate your attempt at humour. One day you'll make someone laugh. Keep trying.

[@jorgegonzalezmata524]

Graet wach beautiful

[@timeintheuk]

Tempting for sure

[@brettf9123]

😑 Promo>SM

[@LumePip]

I don't get it - this is promo for SM??? Or promo is better than SM??

[@mattstolzman]

Yeah it would look great with my MAGA hats if it was made in the US. Jk. Great watch

[@Igeeckow]

The category is design not originality dude. How can you like Tudor and give this one 0 for design. My god it’s just pure stupidity

[@LumePip]

It’s not pure stupidity though. Actually think about it for a second. The DESIGN category actually did have ORIGINALITY as one of the key things it was judged on, which I don't think San Martin deserved points for given it wasn't them with the original idea. And this was very early on in my thinking about how to aggregate with a scoring system. This video's nearly, like, a year old.

[@jorisc90]

Thanks for mansplaining the GMT part. Was still figuring how to actually use it.