The Perverse Morality of The Acolyte

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

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[@thisismyname3928]

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[@SGresponse]

I do not understand why you post excerpts of your main channel videos on your side channel. The side channel should be "more" or "earlier" or "livestream with Ozkii" - not "the same shit, but late and torn out of context"

[@thisismyname3928]

@@SGresponse 💯

[@jarrodneal1917]

I appreciate the CliffNotes version. Thanks!

[@johnwolf2829]

I think that the concept of the "dialectic" needs to be applied here. That is the concept of spouting nonsense cannot be pinned down... and means nothing while AT THE SAME TIME can be used to mean anything the con-artist that created it needs it to mean at that particular moment. Its how Communists tricked smart people into believing stupid things. Still do, in fact.

[@AJ-HawksToxicFinger]

'I got to do a female character who is choosing darkness and evil, which is, honestly, my brand'. -Woman who delivered countless starlets to a predator in the Presidential Suite at the Waldorf in Beverly Hills.

[@KororaPenguin]

On the bright side: C. S. Lewis pointed out that in real life, card-carrying villains are easier to redeem than villains on the proverbial road paved with good intentions.

[@BenjiBoi696]

How is she not an accomplice to Harvey 😭. And the fact she acts like a victim is hilarious considering she made countless victims 😂.

[@JohnathanFallSeasonGuy]

Nothing wrong with wanting to write an unrepentant villain. It is a problem though, when the writer IS an unrepentant villain.

[@AJ-HawksToxicFinger]

@@JohnathanFallSeasonGuy she really took advantage of the 'write what you know' approach

[@JohnathanFallSeasonGuy]

@@AJ-HawksToxicFinger oof, yeah.😬

[@coyoteone6197]

"I'm rooting for Mae because she is framed by everybody." Has Leslye even read her own damn script? Mae isn't framed for anything, she did all the things she was accused of.

[@lacolem1]

Yeah, I laughed at that part. 😂

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Hell, Mae violates EVERYONE. There is virtually zero characters she has contact with, that she does not alienate, betray, endanger, assault, or deceive.

[@dereklopez9060]

Leslye can't even hear herself talk, and the best way to describe her is a line from Scarecrow from The Wizard Of Oz. "Some people without Brains do an awful lot of talking. Don't they?"

[@aaronkelly1762]

Let’s see. Mae being accused of setting a fire? Yep, she did that. Mae murdering Jedi? She did that too. The only crimes she was framed for was the murder of Kelnacca, and I’m pretty sure that was pinned on Sol. Come to think of it, the only things she was framed for were done by the Sith when they no longer saw a purpose for her.

[@wingedyaga2914]

I feel bad for Mae because her mom literally bullied her into bullying her sister. I'll be rooting for her if it was the mother she was getting revenge on.

[@hawkward957]

“I just want to be free” hmm, I guess that’s reasonable. “To wield my power as I please” ooooh, ok that’s suddenly sounding rather problematic.

[@funkydiscogod]

Here is the core of the problem: She said "I want to be the type of artist I want to be without having to answer to anybody." As if she doesn't have to answer to the audience, because the laws of economics have shows us that a product without a customer is a waste of all resources involved.

[@hawkward957]

@@funkydiscogodyeah the connection she used was the freedom to openly be gay, as if having sex with other women is the same thing as training yourself and others to be powerful dangerous dark side force users 😂

[@thelaughingrouge]

"The freedom to do whatever I want, whenever I want." That's not freedom that's anarchy.

[@WhiteManOnCampus]

@@hawkward957 Considering how laws against child molestation and harsher punishments for those who violate children are routinely decried as "threatening gay people's right to exist," perhaps there's more overlap than we'd like to think.

[@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756]

Lol its naked narcissism. "I want to be free from people's perspectives" is always code for "I want to the power to ignore them and override them".

[@corywilson532]

"He doesn't even give her her own agency, by accepting his fate." Will literally play the victim while strangling a guy.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

They cry out in pain as they punch you.

[@embracethenoise]

​@@chazzitz-wh4ly perfect comment. 👌

[@MALICEM12]

honestly at this point, the ancients were right about women.

[@JJONNYREPP]

cobblers!!!! you can enjoy the inoffensive. though the chocolate box imagery might offend your innate sensibilities...

[@HarrisonBurgeron-h9m]

(((They))) Always cry in pain as they strike you...Israeli soldiers are trained to scream "Aaah he's raping me!! Rape!!! Self defense, everybody hear me, self defense because of the rape!" right before annihilating a 6 year old Palestinian child ...

[@BurghezulDjentilom]

"if you don't let your daughter murder you, you hate and want to hurt all women" - leslie headlung

[@nathanbeverley247]

But of course, if you accept your fate and let her kill you, then you're robbing her of her "righteous vengeance," or some BS like that.

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

This show is a great peek into the mind of an amoral sociopath

[@Psyc1onus]

These types want to rule the world!

[@SavedByFaith9981]

@@Psyc1onusindeed they do. But why ? The symbolism tells you why.

[@justicedunham4088]

@@SavedByFaith9981it’s simple: sociopaths are unable to give themselves moral limits on their actions, but can follow the written rules of a society. But, if they take control, they can remove those limits as well.

[@jishwah1889]

The way they discussed the force choke scene had me flipping out. How does someone literally write the scene the way it goes and comment "Sol took away the agency of his own death by accepting his fate." That comment alone is more Evil than anything the Sith did lmfao. They're basically saying that Sol isn't making his murder a satisfactory experience for the murderer.

[@BoomstickFTW]

@@jishwah1889it’s really a sick way of thinking

[@cpuuk]

She has a rot in her morals and you can see that in her story-telling.

[@rogerborg]

I can smell her rot through my screen.

[@Adamguy2003]

It makes sense that she'd value the morally subjective, "There is no good or evil" route; Considering the kinds of evil she knowingly turned a blind eye to and at times even directly acted as an accomplice to, I can see how such a twisted system of belief would appeal to her. I call it "The Voldemort Philosophy," named after Lord Voldemort's infamous proclamation in 'Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone' that "There is no good and evil; There is only power, and those too weak to seek it." In 'The Acolyte,' a nearly- identical line is said by Black Lesbian Sith Witch Mama, a character meant by the show's brain- damaged writers to be seen as wise and benevolent. Headland and her ilk truly are evil.

[@smarterthenyou001]

yep big time, making it all about yourself makes for awful writing but it now makes sense why the entire thing was a jumble with weak dialogue lol im confused though why should anyone care if the show runner is a lesbian lol? and FYI nobody cares.

[@Flinsenberger101]

Yep. She could do quite a lot to challenge the "Jedi are good" angle. And having a third kind of force users in the form of the witches is the right way to do so. But instead of simply letting them have children and explore motherhood and fatherhood, she needs to create a lesbian cult that shits on the prequels by having their own Vergence. And then she abandons this cult in a very ludicrous way, having them act iditiotic and without any sense or basic survival instincts (as everyone in this show). And then makes the Sith somehow "good". The thing is... they are not. They use hatred, anger, torture, pain and suffering (in short: pure evil) as catalysts for achieving greater powers. There just isn't any believable way to portray the Sith as "good". Unless you are going for the shitty cheap women written love novel cliche of "woman fixes the bad guy".

[@michaellane5381]

​@@Flinsenberger101there actually are a few ways to portray Sith as "good" she is just incapable of writing them. Basically you need to write them as obsessed with solely doing something objectively good, like healing anyone, then show how poorly that can end, like healing a tyrant or plague that kills more people. The problem here was she decided "freedom" was the objective good, but taken at its furthest extreme by itself that is only anarchy, not a virtue, if it is incapable of creating or sustaining a society it isn't an "objective" good.

[@MarkLittle-rq2bq]

"I just want to be free to wield my power as I please..." That's called a dictatorship, buddy...you're not the good guy here.

[@codymegehee299]

They for real cannot understand good and bad based on empathy, because they have none. They assign feelings to people around them, ignoring what those people say they actually feel, and she bases her actions off that. He’s a narcissist.

[@doomguy4945]

I do think there's something there with a force-wielder that rejects both sides and doesn't want to be commanded by someone else's code, but Leslye and her team of writers are the last people I'd trust to be able to make a story with that level of nuance: making sure that the sides are still consistent in terms of morality with what they were in Lucas' films (jedi good, sith bad), but that there are enough faults to understand why someone that is relatively good might still reject the jedi.

[@gryffen9608]

Forgive the nitpick, but you mean "tyranny." There is a difference between a dictatorship and a tyranny. Before we get any further, I want to affirm that your main point is spot on. These people who wail and screech about how they are "fighting for freedom" are, in fact, malicious conniving souls who want to tear everyone else down and revel in the ability to torment whenever and however they please. So why the reply to nitpick on using 'tyranny' over 'dictatorship'? Because the needful truth can be subtle, but critical. Mind you, this is where most people launch into a tirade about how they're the absolute same, so I ask that at least I be allowed to finish my comment before the reaction. A dictator is a leadership where ultimately one person is in charge. That person may have officers, but when that leader gives the final word it is just that -- final. I'll just skip to a prime example. A movie director is ... oh dear! You guessed it. A dictator. Then there is a tyranny. Tyranny is ANY form of government where there are people on top, they take anything they want when they want, and any outcry is retaliated by any means desired. The strange thing is a tyranny does not have to be a dictatorship, though admittedly most tyrannies came from dictatorship. That's why people to this day mistake the two. They are close, but they are not the same. In fact, wouldn't that be one of the "lesser" but more important lessons from the actual Star Wars story? A tyranny can come from anywhere. It can even usurp and use the very tool created for benevolence in people do not keep watch and take action. "Vigilance from all threats, both foreign and domestic." Just something to consider.

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

😂😂😂🎯💯

[@Offbeaten]

That would be a dictatorship if they used the power to control others, yes. But if you just use it for your own gain it's more like anarchy/lawlessness

[@tmoney360]

"He couldn't even give Osha the agency to murder Sol on her own terms." This woman might actually be insane.

[@portalmanHUN]

Western women live in a bubble.

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

To be fair, it was the interviewer, not the Headland who said that but...Yikes!

[@crow5946]

@@theadaptationstationmaster fair, but Headland agreed with it, and worse, elaborated on it

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

@@crow5946 Yeah, that's disturbing. I do get the impression though that Headland would just agree with whatever an interviewer said in praise of her show even if what they were praising hadn't been her intention. Judging by her answers to questions about character motivations, she seems to have come up with the show's events first and everything else was an afterthought hence the random decisions and changes of goals on the characters' parts. If the interviewer suggested anything at all about the characters, she'd probably go, "yeah, that's exactly what I had in mind" even if it never occurred to her before. LOL

[@Prich319]

Insane, perverted morality, and just plain evil.

[@babykosh5415]

"...I got to do a female character who is choosing darkness and evil, which is, honestly, my brand." - Harvey Weinstein's assistant

[@Xyponx]

RIght!? She tells on herself so hard. She knows she doesn't deserve to be where she is. She knows she is evil. She doesn't care.

[@yonas6832]

she made herself some enemies

[@mallios13]

Ten bucks says she gave him the idea to do the casting couch in the first place.

[@Gooey_Mess]

5:38 What infuriates me about her is that she complains so much about her lack of freedom in life and obsesses about her false perception of the world she lives in to the point of injecting it into her work. I just have to ask since she is allowed to be openly gay, she is a women in a powerful position and has a high paying job at Disney, the biggest media corporation on the planet, how the hell can she think that she is oppressed?

[@dalebirkenstock2580]

Yep. Same with the lead actress Amandla Stenberg. She grew up in an affluent family and has been privileged all her life. Don't know if you saw her "diss track" or not. She made a video when the backlash to this show came out basically ripping the fans as bigoted and saying she's been oppressed. By what? Her limo not arrive on time? The video is the cringiest thing I've ever seen in my life, and that says a lot as I'm 50 and have been through a lot.

[@mphoramathe1801]

Narcissism and an ungrounded perception of the world..

[@jesserebelo3583]

​@@dalebirkenstock2580her dad is white too, has tons of pictures of them together, but amandla he's an oppressor! Or is he "one of the good ones"?

[@lorentzcoffin4957]

Because she’s insecure about everything and evidently has a sword dangling above her head. We don’t know what it is but if it were revealed she would be as reviled as she thinks she should be.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

​@@jesserebelo3583definitely an oppressor, considering what Leslye thinks of fathers and their desire to protect.

[@mattmobily1975]

Hollywood has become so obsessed with being subversive (or anything but traditional) that they have ironically become predictably boring.

[@firebirdstark]

If everything is subversive, then nothing is subversive

[@GeraltofRivia22]

Subversive writing only works when there is something to actually subvert.

[@mwright_boomer]

It’s all postmodern deconstruction with no reconstruction coming behind it, a product of an empty, and ultimately nihilistic, worldview

[@silverscorpio24]

@@mattmobily1975 And objectively amoral

[@marhawkman303]

@@firebirdstark Exactly. if every dark skinned child is a father-less waif.... then it's not subverting expectation... it's embracing it.,

[@jwt6577]

At this point this show cannot be seen as anything other than a grown woman throwing a temper tantrum because she helped a serial Grapist and the man was caught.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

$180 million struggle session

[@JacobHimmelhaver-m8g]

I got rich helping evil. Let's pretend all good things are evil. Then I can feel ok.

[@jeffsmith5436]

And also probably because she has a little black book containing a list of Darth Harvey’s famous buddies who took part in his shenanigans.

[@Xbalanque84]

​@@jeffsmith5436 Don't forget Lena Dunhaming her sister as a kid.

[@amalekedomite]

Whoa whoa whoa. Cool it with the anti-semitism.

[@CalvinistNeo777]

Leslye Headland strikes me as the type of person that writes love letters to serial killers in prison

[@alexmuenster2102]

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that she writes love letters to abusers behind bars: "Dear Boss..."

[@IronKore]

She prefers criminals not apprehended,otherwise she would have hung up with him...

[@sebulbathx]

Spot on!

[@Klaevin]

nah, not really. the reason women write to serial killers in prison, is that those men are extremely masculine and the woman is very submissive. Les is more like a therapist who thinks it's their mission to equip their female clients with the tools to deflect blame for all their actions onto men, rather than help the client come to terms with the consequences of their actions

[@kalvinchester4068]

She seems like one in the crowd of young women who went to see Ted Bundy's trial because he was hot and "rebellious"

[@edenwayne8407]

Yes the jedi order is not perfect, but the light side is objectively moraly correct. Like Luke said, it's not about choosing to be a jedi or a rebel, it's about choosing to be better.

[@arnowisp6244]

Exactly. May the Force be with you.

[@crow5946]

@@arnowisp6244 This right here. Notice how the phrase is, "may the Force be with you." Not "may the Light be with you" or "may Darkness be with you", just the Force. Because the Force is neither good nor bad, it's merely a spectrum, and where you fall on that spectrum is up to you, and the consequences that come with your alignment are yours to bear. That's the freedom Lesyle wants so bad, and somehow she fucked it up.

[@ECSOrder66]

Not necessarily. The Force IS the natural good. Not a spectrum. The dark side IMBALANCES the Force, causing it to be corrupted by evil.​@crow5946

[@informedconsumer5293]

@@crow5946the force is both…and you are either balanced or extreme

[@Banzai51]

Know what I want to see? A dirty dozen-esqe jedi movie, where the good guys have the big, bad Sith surrounded and beaten when he goes on the oh-so inevitable Star Wars evil rant about how they cannot strike them down or they'll be E V I L! You know, the most self-serving argument possible. The leader laughs and points out they're saving literally trillions of lives by holding him accountable for the genocide he's already committed. Then finishes with, "Light him up, boys!" That would subvert expectations of the current Disney SW universe.

[@masontrupe9047]

It’s the nature of evil to blur the lines between evil and good so that there is nothing by which to recognize it. Tolkien already said that Gandalf would be way scarier as the master of the One Ring because he would do just that; there would be no clear distinction. This is Disney’s *whole hat* these days.

[@libernihilus]

holy shit... America is gandalf with the One Ring

[@g.d.graham2446]

​@libernihilus no, just these terrible Disney writers

[@mish375]

And that's why Gandalf refuses the Ring when Frodo gives it to him. "I would use the Ring for good, but through me it would work its evil." The worst evils are committed by people who think they are doing good

[@seanledden4397]

Those comments from Leslie's interviews really are amazing. As with other extremists, she comes off as a spoiled adolescent drenched in destructive, inchoate emotions. They are never "free" unless they are free from all criticism, push back, or dissent. In short, they are not "free" unless they have the power of a tyrant.

[@WhiteManOnCampus]

There's a reason why the standard fantasy for little girls is the princess, rather than the queen. All of the authority, none of the responsibility of actual rulership.

[@pittland44]

Wasn't that what John Stuart Mill was arguing for?

[@SavedByFaith9981]

The devil is in the details.

[@HunnysPlaylists]

@@pittland44 perfect example of the kind of person he's talking about there.

[@swampfaye]

Even when they are free they still feel oppressed. Why is that?

[@jedicarson]

Leslye Headland was the acolyte...I mean assistant to Harvey Weinstein...I mean Darth Blob. She learned alot from him. Now she is the master, Darth Headland.

[@kingbaby8761]

Darth Legoheaddus, the lame.

[@jedicarson]

@@kingbaby8761 give her a pipe and a can of spinach, she kind of looks like Popeye.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Who is the acolyte of Headland now?

[@dearcastiel4667]

@@Kyle-sr6jm Her wife apparently, they clearly have the same brainrot

[@sirloin8745]

Always two there are, a Master and an Apprentice.

[@frozen1762]

That woman is a sociopath. She has no basic understanding of right and wrong. She did no deconstruction of anything, in her show the Sith are pure evil and Jedi the good guys, but the show keeps framing good as evil and evil as good with no logical explanation for it. It was not that difficult to make Sol and other Jedi to do something really bad and feel guilty about it. I don't know was it intentional that they made it so they did nothing wrong or just incompetence.

[@kdkseven]

Anyone ever notice that when Leslye Headland talks about The Acolyte, she _only_ talks about how it makes _her_ feel, how it affects _her,_ how _she_ thinks Star Wars should be? It's all me, me, me. It's really pathetic.

[@jamesbellefeuille2926]

We most certainly did notice. Yes, it is indeed pathetic.

[@Amira_Phoenix]

It's a psychopath trait, she's deranged

[@iceprism367]

The part where she talks about having 100 different scenes in the show that SHE loves and are important to HER feels especially narcissistic. She can go write her own autobiography if she wants, but this is Star Wars and what's written should be made for fans of Star Wars.

[@Jeremy-d7i]

@@iceprism367even if it’s not in service of fans per se, and you want to go in a different direction, do so competently and justify it to the fan base. Merely repeating what’s already been said can cause stagnation, but when handling a beloved decades old franchise, it would do to be more cautious than not and to build respectfully without undermining your own foundations. The narcissism is the problem, more so than the premise of not strictly doing fan service.

[@iceprism367]

@@Jeremy-d7i I agree that narcissism is the problem, but she is also not the original author to be able to choose new directions willy nilly. The fans could've been her compass based on what they've liked from stories prior (not even necessarily big fanservice moments, but just a fitting plot for the franchise in general). If she wants to alter the franchise in a way the fans wouldn't be used to, she should either get permission from the original author (who she obviously wouldn't respect enough to do that) or earn people's trust through writing a quality story first (not what she did). Also there kind of was some stuff that could be called a type of "fanservice", but the sole fan it was meant for was the writer herself, not fans of Star Wars. The issue is that she thought she was now ruling over someone else's story and fanbase and that she could just talk down to them or make them leave.

[@Left4Coragem]

Smilo have literally all the freedom in the galaxy to do whatever, until he decides to train a bint to go kill jedi masters. The fact his writer is unable to see this is very telling.

[@rogerborg]

And specifically a group of Jedi who have _no relationship to Smylo at all._

[@rgama1173]

He is free, but needs the perception of an opresor to validad himself

[@lmno567]

​@@rogerborg There seems to ba a connection between him and the green Jedi Master, the one to head this cover-up. He physically recoiled when she stepped on the planet, and they sensed each other. As much as I would like answers for that was all about, I am not in a hurry to find out.

[@crypto66]

@@lmno567 A padawan getting turned to the dark side because of a genuinely corrupt Jedi master who whipped him with her lightsaber is actually a much more compelling premise than the entirety of this show.

[@thedude925]

He is free... expect for his existence being illegal in the eyes of the jedi. Lol.

[@lordaizen8004]

NEVER put your faith in someone who is such an obvious slave to their own emotions

[@Metalora]

One should be a master over their emotions, not the other way around.

[@blackosprey2219]

It's no wonder she has such fascination for the Sith, because that is precisely what Sith are.

[@Alpha___00]

Once again, I’m more and more convinced that Leslie is some sort of psychopath. Or, at least, some not very healthy kind of egoist. She doesn’t understand morals and approach to them from mechanical standpoints. She obviously dreams of putting her own freedom before everyone else. She is pathological liar. She judges actions on her own attraction to person, not on actions worth.

[@jeffsmith5436]

Can’t she be both? Yes, yes she can.

[@Nerdiness1985]

Psychopaths are normally quite intelligent and very charming Leslye can be accused of many things except that.

[@arshaw150]

Headcase Headland is such a morally backward individual.

[@NathanCassidy721]

What was your first clue? The fact that she got financially rewarded for ratting out her boss?

[@michaelwills1926]

It’s called “social engineering the masses” Get an IP that people trust and then flip the message; add in a good bit of mental and emotional trauma from watching these goons break all your toys and the ritual is complete.

[@82dorrin]

What's awful about Leslye's mindset isn't that she, in her words, wants to be "free to love who I want. Say what I want. Make the art I want to..." etc. It's that she thinks she should never have to face any consequences. Or if she does, the people against her are bigots/misogynists/horrible people. The toxic mindset of a malignant narcissist.

[@iceprism367]

It's like she entered a room, started punching people for no reason and expected no one to fight back just so she could be free to continue.

[@justicedunham4088]

Being a good writer requires empathy - the ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes. If you can only picture yourself as every character, you will never make it past bad fan fiction because no one else will be able to understand the reasons a character does what they do.

[@Amira_Phoenix]

There's something wrong with your comment. It contradicts itself, please re-read it

[@crow5946]

@@Amira_Phoenix No, they're right, even if they didn't mean it the way they said it. What most modern writers don't understand is that characters aren't actually people. They're traits, they're a vessel to convey a message or an idea to the audience, but this is where most modern writers fail, and if you've ever read fan fiction, you know what I mean. Because characters are supposed to FEEL like people, they're supposed to be relatable, you're supposed to empathize with them while also absorbing the message or idea that character is trying to convey. That's why great characters transcend the medium they inhabit- not because of who they are as people, but because of what they represent. And yet that being said, nobody would care about what they represent if we didn't care about who they are as people. Writing is hard, man. Anyone can be good at it, but few are great at it.

[@sarahb.7175]

@@Amira_Phoenix I think what they're saying is, "Writers should be able to put themselves in others' shoes. If all of your characters are just like you, that's bad writing because you're unable to write about different kinds of people and all your characters feel the same."

[@sarahb.7175]

13:21 "Sexist institutions do nothing to protect women from evil men!" "I love my daughter so much, so I'm going to do everything I can to protect her, make sure she's okay, guide her, and support her." "That's sexist!" 🤔 (I, for one, am grateful for my dad's "benign sexism.")

[@doomguy4945]

And Osha pretty much chose Sol to begin with. It's not his fault that Aniseya basically forced his hand by being dimwitted.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

These are the same people who thinks boundaries and restraints are oppression instead of stop gaps from insanity and immorality.

[@sovietunion7643]

The issue with modern feminism in this light is that they want the ‘benign sexism’ when it benefits themselves but freedom and empowerment when it suits a different time, Its not about equality its straight up taking as much as you can for personal gain

[@jaffarebellion292]

It also doesn't help that Harvey Weinstein's personal assistant is exactly the kind of person from whom a father should protect his daughter.

[@sethlangston181]

The fact that these words come from the mouth of Harvey Weinstein's assistant seem hollow as they demonstrate her own lack of awareness, double standards, and contributions to the very problems she is speaking out against.

[@christaylor7079]

“[paraphrase from Leslie’s interview] There comes a time when a woman has to cast off her father’s protection and go her own route and embrace her own needs” - ok, that’s fair. But she doesn’t have to kill him to make that point lmao

[@jakeviolet2195]

And that time is when she gets married... to a man.

[@coyoteone6197]

One begins to understand why Leslye and her sister are estranged.

[@L337M4573RK]

Is that from the same interview where Leslye Headland talks about "benign sexism" and a "positive corruption arc"? I think there's also something about how "Osha was denied her vengeful killing of Master Sol because he had accepted his death at her hands" (or something like that)? I'm pretty sure that Leslye Headland is trying to "justify" the murder of an innocent man while also trying to "justify" the corruption of a mostly innocent woman into a world of self perversion and senseless violence... (Seriously, where are Leslye Headland's morals?)

[@jhoughjr1]

@@L337M4573RKon harveys floor

[@blackfangex6813]

​@@L337M4573RK she was Harvey Weinstein assistant, of course having no morals was part of her job description.

[@AlexD-os8hw]

3:31 - 'Forget what he is gonna say. What do you wanna say?' But, as a writer, that's exactly what you are suppose to do: simulate different characters with different viewpoints...

[@user-zq6sz2cr6g]

Self insertion 3.0

[@darkdwarf007]

Author do have to have something to say themselves, but in order to do so, they have to "tap into a different guy"

[@funkydiscogod]

@@darkdwarf007 I guess the failure is that modern writers don't understand the opposite point of view.

[@NovaDark909]

That quote alone represents one of the big reasons writing has been going down hill as of late

[@taramayastales]

I think for Leslie, these characters weren’t people at all, they were ideological objects in an allegory. Killing the Patriarchy is played out by literal murder of the father figure. But it still comes across as sociopathic because a sociopath doesn’t see even real people as people, only objects to exploit or remove if they stand in the way or absolute, narcissistic “freedom.” It was indeed like seeing into the thought process of a rapist or murderer.

[@trumbogrumbo363]

I like how if Uncle Ben said "With great power comes great responsibility" to a Spiderwoman than it'd be sexist and she'd be morally justified in killing him

[@iceprism367]

This seems very accurate to her mentality.

[@pixelz3040]

"It keeps her from getting a satisfactory kill, ya know?" Girl's speaking like she's looking for clips for her CoD montage.

[@Kycirion]

The Acolyte is just "daddy issues," the TV show.

[@georgeray1906]

As was CW's Gotham Knights.

[@RacingSnails64]

Sadly that's extremely true the more I think about it...

[@JustAnArrogantAlien]

As is "Helluva Boss," too.

[@phillipharrison886]

Leslie has said it is a letter to her sister and that is really disturbing, no wonder her sister doesn't talk to Leslie

[@mauricesteel4995]

she clearly didn't get over her teenage years, she like, kinda like, loves talk like this, like, she was totally a teenager.

[@uumlau]

"without having to answer to anybody" - I think that is a succinct definition of "evil". Morality requires one to think about how one's own actions might affect others, positively or adversely.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

"Do as you will" is the credo of evil persons.

[@Jonas-lj8ul]

@@Kyle-sr6jm You got it. I personally get a little twitchy when people with actual power or authority start quoting Crowley at me....

[@GeraltofRivia22]

Exactly! Evil is the ultimate expression of selfishness.

[@Norvik_-ug3ge]

She is, in her mind, a member of a still oppressed minority, who resents the majority for 'imposing' their taste in cinema and TV on her. She wants to make queer TV and have everyone cheer and applaud. Any other response is tyranny to her.

[@Geesaroni]

Came to this comment section to say this. "I want to do whatever I want with all the (considerable) power I have without having to answer to anybody" is, in fact, the basis of every evil villain. When I started this clip I thought it was a solid look into the villain's head but, uh... with the other excerpts in mind, she's... serious? And thinks this is a positive goal?

[@WillofDD]

4:02 No Leslie, we don't accept you because you're an evil, unrepentant person. Seriously, the more she yaps the more she sounds like a clueless despot whom I'm glad we live in a timeline where she isn't a major politician.

[@Flinsenberger101]

And incompetent. Probably could get over the evil part if she at least was competent as a filmmaker.

[@JustAnArrogantAlien]

_"I'm glad we live in a timeline where she isn't a major politician."_ Don't give her ideas.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

Precisely! None of us would have a problem with Platoon directing a Star Wars show... Ergo it's not the fact that she's gay that we object to. It's her personality, attitude, actions, moral compass and aptitude we object to!

[@Redpoppy80]

Have you seen Kamala Harris or Hillary Clinton? They are the politician version of Leslie. (Before anyone says this I hate Trump just as much so don't accuse me of being a Trump supporter.)

[@TheMeanMongoose]

Honestly, it's so cowardly for her to play the homophobia card. There were many an artist whom has struggled to have thier voice heard being stifled by bigotry, but vindicated by history. Today there are many who are celebrated for their talent without such obsticles being in their way and their creations appreciated. Her playing the victim here reeks of bullshit when she indeed used her wealth and influence to ruin the life of others (some may even have been non-heteros, just to twist the knife). Such an ally she turned out to be. Again, lack of empathy showing.

[@mitchellkitts6444]

It beggars belief that someone who cannot construct a sentence without using the word “like” is trusted with a Star Wars project.

[@biggestfanof300]

I think that's a pre-requisite these days

[@DavidAnderson-m5c]

Said in an environment built entirely on the concept of "Likes".

[@darthgamer9861]

⁠@@biggestfanof300I think you mean “its, like, a perquisite these-days”

[@tapiolautavaara9532]

That is a dead giveaway of an immature, selfish, underdeveloped and dysfunctional mind with very little to not even a hint of intelligence.

[@Daniel-hm8xq]

Like for real

[@asahearts1]

Freedom comes with responsibility. Someone who is free of responsibility should never have power.

[@hecticfunentertainment9373]

Freedom is useless without morals that gives freedom purpose

[@crimsonpotemkin]

"It's my brand" "My wife is a huge part of my creative process" Yikes.

[@iceprism367]

I bet they practice their evil laughs together. 😂

[@yendor0001]

And remember folks, there is no good or evil in the Star Warzez. Actually, it's not that there isn't good or evil in the Star Warzez, it's that the caretakers of the franchise don't know, or at the very least, can't tell the difference. Acolyte was a $180M therapy session for Lezly's daddy issues, her jealousy issues, and a public demonstration her utter incompetence. But at least she and her wife got a fat paycheck.

[@TB-zf7we]

This is the sad, underwhelming reality.

[@rusharnmal7425]

Let's be real, the Acolyte is an embezzlement scam.

[@NewLifeFromTheWayofTruth]

🎉😂

[@Draconic.]

Give her some credit. She also managed to squeeze her sister issues in there...

[@yendor0001]

@@Draconic. Fair enough. Which one of them do you think tried to murder the other by burning down their childhood home?

[@leokicklighter8287]

"me me me me me me me me" jesus fucking christ this bint makes James Cameron look positively humble

[@RipperMaggoo]

It’s quite jarring to see someone who is so unequivocally corrupted think that they have some sort of moral superiority.

[@mallios13]

Welcome to leftist ideology.

[@OmegaTou]

"I think everybody feels this way." No Leslye, the rest of us are not objectively evil. We don't feel that way. 🤮

[@kagekun1198]

There was an interview where they said they were unsatisfied with Sol's death because he gave his blessing and acceptance to Osha in his last moments. Those psychopaths wanted him to plead and suffer.

[@DavidHands]

Yeah, they claimed even in death Sol was a chauvinist by forgiving his murderer and not allowing her to have closure. It is quite sick the stuff she says.

[@blackosprey2219]

Pretty revealing as to what people like her would do if she could get away with it. Oh wait, she's already done that by being Harv's lead pimp.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

As they want all dissenters to plea and suffer. It is all about power, always has been.

[@MisterMick113]

It's because she hates men and thinks she has to have some sort of power over them. Refusing to beg for your life is reusing to give power to the one who would kill you.

[@iceprism367]

Sounds like she has some sorta sadistic fetish saying things like that... As if she seeks pleasure in revenge.

[@B1RDSEYE]

14:14 ok, first, NONE of what she’s describing was conveyed in the show. Second, yes, we all grow up and at some point must go our own way, down our own path, and that path may not be the way our parents desired for us, and it might even be against their guidance or direction. But the way she speaks of it, even the idea of a father attempting to protect and guide his offspring is negative. Absolutely insane take.

[@brainflash1]

Well all those protective fathers kept getting in the way of her givng their daughters to Weinstein, so of course she thinke they're evil.

[@GideonRavenor712]

Exactly, that's one of the biggest things. There's this huge disconnect between what is shown on the screen, and what is within Headland's head. We can see scenes emphasizing what she supposedly wanted, but there is no connective tissue to make it make sense. And so many different parts of the story reek of this. -We don't see Sol becoming more unhinged or unbalanced, if anything the story just portrays him as a moron who can't explain himself if his life depended on it. -The Osha-Jecki implied romance never even made it outside of head canon with how it has zero relevance to the plot -We're not shown enough of Sol and Osha's relationship to see it as a father-daughter surrogate, and from what we're told they've been estranged for over a decade after she flunked out of the academy anyway so that doesn't make sense -Mae's constant flip-flops as a character make no sense with what we're told. -Bazil for no reason deciding to rip out a part on his own ship to screw Sol up for no consequence makes no sense beyond Headland thinking of no way to make this product placement have a 'hero moment' that made sense -Torbin being the one to run off to go after the girls when everything pointed at it being Sol to be the instigator but they needed a reason for Torbin to commit suicide so it feels like an afterthought. On and on and on I can go with this crap.

[@dodojesus4529]

Ther should be a flashing neon sign reading "assistant to Harvey Weinstein" popping up every 15 seconds

[@dodojesus4529]

@@GideonRavenor712 the osha-jackie thing also shows how much of a psycho she really is. Smylo says it wouldnt have gone anywhere(yes what "it" was is very unclear) and osha just stays silent and as if she doesnt have a counter. Seriously if a person cannot see value in someone beyond their relationship theyre a really bad person

[@jhoughjr1]

Her narcissism is over 20,000

[@AjTolly]

Yeah, she thinks everything she makes is a masterpiece at worst, when in reality it's just a piece of plain evil garbage.

[@faynarawn4164]

Not even Rian Johnson has a narcissism count that high!

[@TheRoflcer]

"What 20,000! There's no way that can be right!!!"

[@Jamseth_Ingramious]

⁠@@TheRoflcer"I think it's right. After all, I wasn't trained in any kind of art."

[@jamesbellefeuille2926]

@@faynarawn4164 Now that's one for the record books. Yikes!

[@augiechiavuzzi4907]

She wants absolute power without absolute consequences and that's true evil. And she acts like a victim when she's called out on it. How sad she is

[@matsh5633]

12:44 - By accepting his fate Sol is taking the agency away from Osha killing him? ARE YOU MENTAL?!

[@iceprism367]

She's mental and sadistic

[@yusharider]

A friendly reminder that Harvy went to Prison THREE FUCKING YEARS AGO! This isn't a recent incident. They genuinely looked at this monster who stood trial, and casually gave her a show 1-2 years after the fact.

[@Xyponx]

And refuse to even acknowledge her part in his crimes. How many times did she schedule someone to be assaulted?

[@justaguy105]

Actually he was found guilty six years ago and sentenced four years ago. But yeah

[@Daniel-hm8xq]

​@justaguy105 add to that this show was in production for the last few years, she was given it around the same time as his trial. Absolutely wild.

[@buckoQuentin]

So they are saying women are not responsible for their actions, like children. You would think that would piss feminists off, but I guess they just wanna have fun. Cindy Lauper was right.

[@TheRestrictedgamer]

"There's this feeling that female directors can't cry." Every man who's lived past the age of 12: .....😶

[@jacquelineking5783]

Now now men are allowed to cry when Ole Yeller dies.

[@Jonas-lj8ul]

@@jacquelineking5783 Uh... I cry when Anakin dies at the end of ROTJ....

[@martinderabbie3429]

It's not that Female Directors can't cry, it's that they'll lose the trust of everyone if they do. Which isn't always a bad thing though, Think about it, would you believe in the Leadership of someone who broke down over something Trivial or Trivial things (Once or Constantly)but That's the problem with these Feminists They want to do whatever they want without People losing respect in them.

[@sosaalexis48]

​@@martinderabbie3429 Yeah, agree with you, but I think the point of this comment is that the same would happen to a male director, most likely So, saying that this happens to "female directors" is dumb, you are taking a general problem (people in high positions losing trust if they cry) and making it "gendered" (sorry, english is not my first language, so i dont know how to put it into words) just to make it look like it only affects one group

[@TheRestrictedgamer]

@@sosaalexis48 you actually said that perfectly. Your English is excellent for a second language.

[@kingfreedom160]

Headland seems to just hate parents and also hate hope and good. She is the exact type of person that shouldn't have gotten a position on a Star Wars show, and the fact she was hired despite having so many glaring contrivances with the very essence of Star Wars shows exactly what is wrong with Disney Star Wars. They either want to hire people who will destroy the product because the people in control of hiring want it to die over idiotic moral BS that is unfounded in morals itself, or they are hiring people solely because the politics of the person being hired means more than the skills and talent the person has.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

I think when it comes to Headland specifically, they hired her based on the skeletons in the closets she knows about.

[@jeffsmith5436]

Welcome to DEIsney…please have your Victim Card ready to show the nice man in the jackboots carrying the machinegun, and continue to the Social Engineering Re-Education room down the hall…😂

[@AlexandreSardeiro]

Except we still have Filoni working on Disney Star Wars and he's doing an amazing job. There's still hope.

[@anonygent]

She's a perfect reflection of KK, that's why she was hired.

[@thomasn3882]

The overriding irony, which the purple hairs will never admit to, is the fact that THEY are now the establishment.

[@grumpyold-man8302]

She has 'power', and still feels unfulfilled. Sounds like a hollow victory.

[@barrybend7189]

I like to make and play an evil character at times but i know not to do that in real life because I myself will never want to harm people. Lesley admits to being evil for a "freedom" she never thought about.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

The ability to distinguish fiction from reality seems to be severely lacking in modern writers.

[@barrybend7189]

​​@@GeraltofRivia22I just made a realization. You know in Kotor the sith master that teaches you the Sith code. And her story of being enslaved then breaking free but then tries to amass power through the dark side to have the power to free the rest of her people? Change the backstory to Harvey Winestien and you have Lesley Headland. She is not free from her mental shackles.

[@mattshuey1]

I find that the people that want to abolish good and evil as a concept to replace it with a nebulous grey zone end up gravitating toward the "evil" end of that grey zone spectrum that has replace good and evil. They never want to exist in a grey malaise of metamorality and act like good people for the sake of goodness, when in that grey nothing of values they want to be evil but not be defined as evil, they never just want to be good. Weird how that works out on a terribly consistent basis huh?

[@ethanmyers3742]

I think that it’s accountability that people want to shift away from. If there is no good, then there is no evil. If there is no evil then there is no punishment. If there is no punishment, then there is no fear to do evil.

[@Psyc1onus]

The Bolsheviks! There’s also a tacit correlation between Headland and the Bolsheviks!

[@AlexandreSardeiro]

You have a point. But, if you think about it, there has been a Grey zone on Star Wars for over a decade now. The jedi being represented as flawed since The Clone Wars... Dooku turning into a sith because the jedi are corrupt... Merrin being a dark side usar witch who travels between planets bringing hope and fighting opression... Bendu being, as he said himself, the one in the middle... The Acolyte just represented it poorly.

[@fencserx9423]

“It is an act of evil to deny the existence of evil. Only that which is immoral need be justified by blurred lines”

[@AlexandreSardeiro]

@@fencserx9423 That's debatable. Good and evil are human concepts that only exist within ourselves. Animals kill each other to survive, humans step on each other to survive. I believe good and evil are an illusion that people invented conscious or unconsciously to give a meaning to our meaningless life.

[@gio87vr]

Perverse morality? No, there is no morality, it's chaotic-evil, with a tinge of madness. But we are not in an RPG so she's extremely dangerous.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

So i was doing an RP thing with an AI chatbot and they went down the madness and evil thing and it was terrifying. I was like, “I died” and the AI went full on masochist necro violation and it was wild to read. It was like “I close the door behind me and say ‘Until next time’ and happily leave the room with a smile.” I imagine, if given the freedom to, people like Leslie would go the full Drukhari route.

[@gio87vr]

@@chazzitz-wh4ly Damn, that is some really incredible experience, the net is so rotten that the AI has already been corrupted. Let's hope it won't become sentient before a couple centuries, otherwise Skynet would seem like a blessing in comparison.

[@parkergreen2704]

​@@gio87vrWhat if AI becomes the Antichrist?

[@parkergreen2704]

@volt42re At this point, nothing would surprise me anymore.

[@Clem.Fandango.]

She gave no redeeming qualities to the bad guy and expected us to be conflicted

[@justicedunham4088]

Based on what Leslie has said, her D&D alignment is chaotic evil. She desires total freedom for herself regardless of rules or obligations and regardless of who is hurt in the process.

[@johncoppinger2241]

Jesus christ that article quotation "what do /you/ want to say, honey?" It's like leslye was just repeating that jack nicholson quote verbatim, but self referential "I simply write a man and take away all logic and accountability" WOW

[@Alpha23TV]

This show does more to uncover the thinking and morals of the writers (Leslie), than it does to challenge the morals of the Jedi. To normies, Sol was mistreated at a level heretofore unseen…

[@dalebirkenstock2580]

"People don't want me to exist" and then in the next sentence "Everyone believed in me." Headland is a sociopath. Before watching the Acolyte, I believed her version that she didn't know what Weinstein was or was doing, but after seeing it I believe she not only knew but actively participated. Lucas has stated that with Star Wars he wanted to tell a tale of classic good vs evil tale without any shaded morality. He used Joseph Campbell's hero myth as a structure. In the last several years, the popularity of the anti-hero format has skyrocketed. People have started rooting for characters that are clearly villians. Watler White, Tony Soprano, Luther, etc. But this is the first piece of popular media that I have seen where it's just plain evil. It's baffling to think that it came from Disney of all places. She clearly has made everyone in the show a criminal or a killer, and sought to justify them and humanize monsters. There is no humanizing monsters. Imagine if someone did a sympathy piece on the BTK killer. That's what this is. Headland is a very sick woman.

[@beckab4726]

What's interesting is the difference of how shows approach a villain protagonist. The shows you mentioned don't have this moral conundrum that the Acolyte does because although you ARE supposed to root for the villain, you still understand that what they are doing is wrong. A competent story has you understand why a villain does what he does, but doesn't attempt to justify the actions. The Acolyte wants you to root for the villain, but for all of the wrong reasons. It absolutely fails in justifying the villain's actions and fails to vilify the heroes.

[@dalebirkenstock2580]

@@beckab4726 Great point. I think it does vilify the heroes though. The Jedi were given specific orders not to interfere, but they break into the compound twice to take the children against the wishes of the witches. There was one baffling line where after the witches expressed anger and refused to have the girls tested, Indara then says "with your permission." Then the Jedi break in. The witches did fight at this point but they were defending against invaders. So the Jedi kill everyone, and then lie and cover it up. Then you have Venestra framing a (somewhat) innocent man and covering up murders as well. At least in the shows I mentioned, efforts were taken to create characters who started out likeable but became villians due to circumstance. Everyone in the Acolyte is just evil or incompetent, and no effort was made to try and explain why.

[@beckab4726]

​​@@dalebirkenstock2580I would argue that it doesn't make sense that the Jedi WOULDN'T investigate in the first place. They were investigating the planet for life and the vergence. So why wouldn't they want to at least talk to the coven? It doesn't make sense that the council would prohibit the Jedi from at least investigating them. But you're absolutely right: everyone in this show is incompetent.

[@thesouthernwake]

Good call back to villains as protagonists, but similar to other comment, you are seeing the downfall of someone that has slowly turned into a villain in the case of Walter White, once he gave into the character flaws that were always there, but kept in check by morals and principles that eroded - the desperation and love for his family justified using his powers for ‘bad’ - and there was no plugging the damn once the villain emerged. But the show KNOWS who is he turning into and takes him on a tragic journey. If we’d met him for the first time in season 3-4 where he’s torturing and manipulating people - we’d not have the connection with him. But the show tells us he’s ’gone bad’; where the acolyte doesn’t manage any darkness or motivation of the twins - just confused actions that you’re supposed to sympathize with. Nothing in it was tragic. They’re just careless villains with no purpose other than what the script tells them.

[@dalebirkenstock2580]

@@thesouthernwake Well stated, exactly my point. That's why after listening to multiple interviews with Headland, I am convinced she is just inherently evil. She refers to Sol's murder as a "satisfying kill" that had to happen because of "benign sexism." Most people talk their problems out but Headland advocates for murder. She says she relates to Qimir the most and that he is her "avatar" and "shadow self." She's nuts.

[@monkeyboy6857]

This is why Spiderman exists. He’s the best example of what a lot of power can do to someone and you can either use that power to do good by yourself, the people around d and your community or you can use it to only serve yourself

[@grantmiller6570]

So it isn’t about Star Wars, it’s about Her! Not anything we are interested in Lesley .

[@ridewild1956]

When a straw hatted pirate has a better moral understanding of freedom you need to reevaluate your morals lady, luffy is more free than anyone Leslie could hope to create and he has never killed anyone

[@weirdguy1495]

Luffy is freedom incarnate, nobody's gonna beat him on that front.

[@mibikitzyga9045]

Murdered that gum gum fruit tho... c.c

[@nicholasgamble914]

Well it’s specific freedoms that they want, a freedom from the consequences of their actions, the responsibilities and duties that all people have from their own individual level to society at large, and in general a freedom from the constraints of reality, all of which they see as an oppressive force and is also why their morality is all wonky. This is because to them their moral system could be best represented as oppressive vs non oppressive, with oppression being all of the aforementioned things they want freedom from, which is the basis of most morality systems, and non oppression being anti those things for some theorized utilitarian purpose but is ultimately always based on their own individual’s short-term benefit or pleasure. And that selfishness is the key distinguisher, since in the aforementioned ‘constraints’ usually involves sacrificing of one’s personal wants or needs for their own personal long term benefit or life satisfaction (such as not drinking all of the time or overindulging in food especially junk food because while pleasurable it’s not truly beneficial to one’s self and over time will decrease one’s life long satisfaction) or societal benefit that is that also is in congruence with reality while the opposite, the morality of the individuals we’re talking about such as Lesly Headland, belief that not living you life doing whatever you want, regardless of the harm it does to your or others, or it’s mere incongruence with reality is oppressive and unacceptable.

[@ggt47]

This show does not represent the Jedi as "evil" as it likes to pretend it does.

[@thebigidea9659]

💯 correct. All it did was reveal how the writers lack understanding of what Jedi and Sith are as ideological rivals.

[@L337M4573RK]

If anything, it presented the Jedi as incompetent, but still justifiably good (except for Leslye Headland's wife who deliberately lied to cover up what really happened). It also presented the Sith as selfish, violent narcissists who think that they should be allowed to abuse their powers for no justifiable reason at all. (Perhaps that's WHY deranged Leftists like Leslye Headland sympathize so much with the Sith...)

[@HOPEDACODER]

At best their presented as incompetent but well meaning.

[@davidfrancisco3502]

Even in true Star Wars and the EU the jedi are not guardians of peace but the lapdogs of a corrupt galactic olligarchy.

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

If a show can't even set out to do what it wanted to do even if it was wrong, you KNOW it's cooked😂.

[@kellymoses8566]

Blood Meridian is a perfect example of how amazing writing can elevate a extremely nihilistic story into high art.

[@dalebirkenstock2580]

Exactly. McCarthy doesn't treat the judge or other characters as a hero. That's what Headlamp did.

[@radec5437]

You sir are a man of culture

[@silverhawkscape2677]

That's why it works. Good writing while being self aware of your story. ​@@dalebirkenstock2580

[@TheMeanMongoose]

Key difference though, it does not nudge the audience towards accepting the actions of the Glanton Gang or in any way justify them as a triumph. The goal is to horrify the reader with a world where any kind of morals are completely non-existent and the kind of people who thrive in it. Basically a hate-letter to nihilism and amoral people. "See? This is what true evil looks like."

[@theenderdestruction2362]

​@@dalebirkenstock2580anyone who thinks the judge is in anyway good is fucked in the head or hasnt realzied what he is yet

[@garysmith9823]

That she was evil isn't a surprise. That she was loud about being evil surprised me. Leslie was so very using this show to work out issues better suited to working out with a therapist.

[@iceprism367]

She probably doesn't see them as "issues", but "virtues" so it never occurred to her.

[@RandallvanOosten-ln5wf]

Leslye's childish philosphy is essentially a kindergarten version of unrestrained hedonism defended by the claim of victimhood.

[@jmoountfort5204]

I love how she fills in all the things that her story fails to convey. It wasn't on the page or the screen, but that's okay because it was in her head. A perfect specimen of the Bad Artist.

[@cyrilvidal1834]

That George Orwell quote was something. He predicted the hypocrisy of today.

[@DudeTheMighty]

Orwell had a way of describing his own time in ways that seem like prophesy to people decades later.

[@underarmbowlingincidentof1981]

yeah I mean his time wasn't that much different to ours when it comes to this sort of stuff...

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

​@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981No time ever has been

[@LukSter18998]

he was around those making it

[@m.b.boyack2228]

3:25 "I was on the treadmill [...]." Now we know for sure Headlamp is a lying narcissist.

[@NoriKassidy]

2:19 Just because I like the Sith more does NOT mean I'm gonna support Leslie for dissin the Jedi.

[@mr.x6313]

Takeaways from the Acolyte: • Hedlund has unresolved daddy issues • Hedlund has unresolved sister issues • Hedlund is objectively evil • Hedlund is a closeted straight woman

[@ericmrozek]

The strange thing about The Acolyte is that it fundamentally ignores Revenge of the Sith's statement that good and evil should NOT be a point of view. Why else would George give the line saying otherwise to Sheev?

[@jimbeaux89]

Isn’t it clear? These kids don’t give a shit about Lucas, or what he created.

[@emberfist8347]

Hell even kids would have understood that. The entire reason George had Yoda reconfirm the twist of The Empire Strikes Back in Return of the Jedi was that a child psychologist informed him that kids are inclined to not believe what Vader said because he is a villain. Yoda is seen as a more reliable source.

[@jamesbellefeuille2926]

@@emberfist8347 I did not know that. Thanks for the fun fact.

[@themostbestwizard]

Finally someone said it! This is the core problem with pretty much all of the current year entertainment; it's morally bankrupt.

[@shrekkek9396]

I mean...the problem is that it's badly written. You can write an interesting but immoral story if you have skill. Those people don't have skills to write anything though.

[@themostbestwizard]

@@shrekkek9396 one of the characteristics of a good story is that it makes sense. If it doesn't make sense from a moral point of view, it isn't a good story.

[@vladpiranha]

Worse yet, it's a moral lecture from nihilists, which doesn't even make any sense.

[@adriflux7704]

Finally? I’ve seen content creators saying this years ago. I’m guessing they weren’t heard much due to being early to recognize, or being transparent with their religious belief.

[@Djkold]

Year? More like decade+ 🙂

[@hardbrocklife]

We've come full circle. A conservative christian is listening to a gay man preach on the corrupt morality of the Acolyte, and we are in a complete agreement. The Acolyte has genuinely brought all the tribes together in solidarity. P. S. Ive listened to TLP long before the Acolyte became a object of shared enjoyment

[@justinambru8529]

Wait whose the gay man?

[@Dragblacker]

@@justinambru8529 The Little Platoon

[@heinricho]

Same

[@michaelwills1926]

Yep it all seems like rapid counter-programming away from the agenda. We should thank Disney but I’m good with it collapsing into dust all the same

[@kurtwagner350]

@@Dragblacker I think he’s bi but yes

[@neo7566]

I'm a victim. I'm a victim. I'm a victim. I'm a victim. I'm a victim. I'm a victim. I'm a victim. Losers think like this.

[@soloistdeve]

Where are the mental institutions? They're directing movies, tv shows now.😡

It seems that this Headland person has the emotional maturity of a fifteen year old. No wonder the acolyte is garbage

[@AuraPhoenix1500]

Man, I've *met* fifteen-year-olds with better emotional maturity than her.

[@Heinz-Beanz]

That's offensive to 15 year olds, you're being too nice to Leslie 😂

[@TheMegaultrachicken]

Never saw a woman openly admit she's evil before. Not in real life anyway. Its really sad and also scary since she works for Disney. How did she even get the job?? Second hand woman to an evil person didn't bother anyone? Or did Disney not care because it itself is now a corporate evil?

[@AtticusKarpenter]

Disney is certainly a corporate evil. I guess its a sign that they not even in mood to pretend that they isn't

[@portalmanHUN]

Better to admit than hide it I guess

[@kevinappleman8521]

So let me get this straight. Her uses the villain as an avitar for her, and then claims she wants freedom to do what she wants without consequence..... So exactly like Harvey? Sounds more complicent the more she talks

[@BenjiBoi696]

Acolyte writers: From my point of view the Jedi are evil Fans: THEN YOU ARE LOST

[@hashimrahman51]

Everything is an inversion now. These people believe that rewarding people based on merit is wrong and unfair. I am not joking. This is the “equity” prong of DEI. It refers to seeking equal outcomes (as opposed to just equal opportunity).

[@thePsiMatrix]

What else do you expect from the former assistant to Harvey Weinstein? Oh that's right "It's very hard to tell identical twins apart"... Oh and "the 'Male Gaze' is abbhorant!" but then proceeds to have two topless men shots in the show. Amazing double-standards.

[@orangecat504]

The latter part definitely stems from internal mysoginy loathing, and jealousy. She wants to be normal but shes so morally twisted by her childhood and Harvey she doesnt know how to deal with it correctly (thus actually coming to terms with her homosexuality ) so shes an full blown psycho

[@tubguinace]

I'm sorry, how the hell is being in a leadership position "vulnerable"?? And you have a whole crew of people who believe in you but somehow you're also unaccepted?? As a queer man, does this woman have any idea about how good she has it? How privileged she is? She's leading a freaking STAR WARS project! And she got there without having any prior experience making something in the sci fi or fantasy genres, she's made nothing but chick flick tier stuff before this! I wish I had a fraction of the opportunities she's had, that section of the interview is straight up insulting.

[@nobody2996]

There's a montage on youtube with George Lucas' comments on all the things he had to learn and struggle against just for a chance at making A New Hope, all the experience he gathered, all the support he had to rally, all the things that blew up in his face. All contrasted with Leslie basically bragging how she got the job handed to her on a silver platter with no experience or education and winging it for the most part. It's so depressing to listen to.

[@tubguinace]

@@nobody2996 What I hate most is how even when she's at the highest position a creative could hope to be in, having hundreds of millions of dollars at her disposal to do practically anything she wants with one of the biggest media franchises in the world, some of the most iconic characters in pop culture, she still wants to victimize herself, she's still talking about longing for freedom and being unaccepted, are you kidding me? If she was talking about past experiences that'd be something but no, she talks as if she's STILL unaccepted and she STILL wants freedom. You're a rich Hollywood director, how much more freedom could you possibly want?

[@tommerker8063]

@@tubguinace dude she is at BEST an accomplice to weinstein, every single word she said is an intentional lie.

[@jero667]

Did you know she was Weinstein's personal assistant?

[@tubguinace]

@@jero667 Yeah it was mentioned in the video, and I agree that this must be the only reason she's on this project

[@Left4Coragem]

14:25 Only a woman could hear someone saying, "you're right, I agree with you", and see that as someone "imposing on their agency".

[@gs4011]

That is such an insane victim mentality. "You're right, it was wrong of me not to tell you." "Ugh, how dare you impose on my agency, bigot." How do these people think they have any right to lecture regular people on morality?

[@leriava]

That's clearly an extreme position that's not shared by the majority of people let alone the majority of women. Or do you take Boogie's insane ramblings and say that "only men could do/say that"?

[@GrimtheSnake]

... I'm not even sure what to say to this because that's just 1st grade level sexism lmfao

[@leonais1]

Patriachy in asia: a father kills his daughter for refusing an arranged marraige. Patriachy in the US: a father removes his daughters agency by accepting her vengeful rage.

[@milordo]

☕️

[@andrewlim9345]

Mother Aniseya saying that "it is not about good or evil but rather power" captures the worldview of Leslye Headland and the show's premise.

[@lasercraft32]

I feel like _anyone_ who talks about "wanting power" or "wanting to use their power" unironically are the people who should not have it.

[@TheStigification]

Instead of becoming a Jedi Master and living and fighting with the “sexism” OSHA decided to go where she’s appreciated with the Sith where she won’t be allowed to become more than an Acolyte.

[@SWANSWAN-nc7ds]

I am legit confuse on why she think the Jedi are sexist they give OSHA a home and friends, and they don't even ask her anything in return. And she view the Sith as freedom. Freedom to what exactly you will be living as a outcast and your skin will rot, and you can not control yourself from harming innocent people, and she see this as a good thing.

[@footthumb]

Leslie: ‘From my point of view the Jedi are evil.’ Star Wars Fans: ‘Then you are lost.’

[@cambrasher3875]

You can almost feel Leslie’s fear of failing this opportunity. Instead of looking to improve, her pride instead turned her fear to anger. That anger turned to hate, and that hate, well… let’s hope she’s at least having a bad week.

[@jamesbellefeuille2926]

Now I can hear Yoda laughing in troll-mode.

[@benamini5701]

So Headland herself was an acolyte to an evil lord.

[@4dmind]

Headland has told us she is evil - or at least she fancies / professes to be evil.

[@gottesurteil3201]

Our morals diverge so much that Hollywood portrays good as evil and evil as good and they don't even realize it.

[@jamesbellefeuille2926]

Ricky Gervais made similar points at his speeches during the Golden Globes.

[@nichompolas]

So she openly admitted her identity was her whole inspiration for this show. That explains everything

[@SWANSWAN-nc7ds]

Being a bigot is just so easy you literally just sit down and do nothing and these people just do everything to make their own group look bad. The fact it is a gay woman that would write her self to be extremely evil and have daddy issues and wanting to murder her own father is just peak irony not even a bigot would try to portray lesbian this bad

[@gabbycotto4024]

According to Leslie, Sol deserves death for being presumptive/paternalistic to Osha, but gives Anisaya a pass for pushing witchery on her over protests, Horn-Mom gets away with physical abuse of Mae plus starting the fight with the Jedi unilaterally, & Mae herself just never has to be admit nor get called out on being so creepy and possessive of her sister that she would rather kill her than let her go off & live her own life away from Mae’s side.

[@Banzai51]

The Acolyte reeks of that sweaty edgelord you knew back in the day telling you that thing you like sucks, not because he dislikes it, but because you enjoy it.

[@SourRobo8364]

"Do the right thing. That's all that matters." -Batman We need more media pushing that message.

[@wilberwhateley7569]

That’s also the message of Rorschach - “never compromise, not even in the face of Armageddon.” It sounds like a great way to live until remember that compromise is a necessity for us to have any kind of social interactions at all…

[@bmardiney]

We are living in the age of women who will never end their adolescent rebellion against daddy. It's the most pathetic thing I can think of.

[@Joe_334]

It's most likely the other parent spouting lies about the father, and they grow up with said lies. My mother is an example. Total power trip and it's so sickening, I had to stop talking to her, because she would most likely support this shrivel drivel...

[@bmardiney]

@@Joe_334 My friends and I all agree: we have never met a good mother. At best, they merely do minimal damage to their children. At worst, they totally destroy them.

[@ericv00]

@@bmardiney That's a shame. I have met good mothers, but they are quite rare. I have met a lot more good fathers, but they are also kinda rare. Still, I have seen them. They do exist.

[@RiverRockRecords]

that and complaining about it online. checkmate lol

[@bmardiney]

@@ericv00 Good fathers are not rare at all. What's rare is women who allow men to be fathers in the first place without divorcing them.

[@MeanGeneSanDiego]

Funny how these "educated" privileged people pepper their speech with "I'm like" prefacing every other sentence.🙄

[@portalmanHUN]

Watch any interview with any female director or actress. "Umm, like, you know, like, like, I'm like, like, uuh, umm... like, like"

[@Fionalah]

"I was on the treadmill when - " Press X to doubt

[@darthgamer9861]

fuckin’ oof

[@Norvik_-ug3ge]

X

[@prodigalpriest]

I wonder if treadmill is code for something other than what it usually is? If not, then yeah, oof.

[@reharl4953]

She was sitting in a chair that was sitting on top of the treadmill.

[@CoolHandMikeYT]

Woah what the actual fuck. Her explanation in that interview about the death of squid game guy is really disturbing. Almost like she is like some psycho.