The Pointless Drake & Joe Budden Beef | @AskDEHH w/ Sophie

[@boyinthekorner]

This conversation bumps in the whip.

[@melomash318]

W

[@BrotherIntel]

HAHAHAHA

[@bluespartaninc]

feefo didn't know what to expect

[@SwaggaNeal]

this comment killed me

[@StoneyJames]

😂😂😂😂

[@ndosim]

Maaan, don't say "MFers in Africa know" like it's Mars. Shiiid, we know YOU, Myke Cizzle. It's 2016 bruh, my aunty in the village got 4G.

[@treezyfl]

Yeah nobody cared that Dr.dre didn't write his rhythms because nobody calls Dre the best Mc that's the problem with drake

[@KillerChickenz01]

also dre never claimed to write his own shit

[@MegaKhalid121]

Exactly. Dre never came out and said he's the best rapper in the game. Drake says it all the time.

[@olumidesobodu5450]

It's mostly because he's a producer and he never tried to deceive anyone

[@alysonlima5709]

For me, i don't care to much about who wrote his songs IF HE MAKE A FUCKING GOOD SONGS, the last album was so SHIT.. just give me 'if you reading this it's too late' again Nigga. Ps: The Best Mc shit that he say, is Laaaameeee...

[@treezyfl]

Alyson Lima if you feel that way than your not a rap fan and thats ok i respect it

[@EB5005]

RIP Kimbo Slice tho

[@YaoMing1169]

RIP Harambe tho.

[@goodgriefer5294]

Rip David Bowie and Prince tho

[@donttouchtheac8651]

RIP Phife Dawg tho

[@mgbp1]

RIP Michael Jackson tho

[@_ericplace]

RIP Tony Romo's back tho

[@toddfromgeico9728]

Drake keeps getting into beef with these small time rappers, yet when people like kendrick call him out he just hides from it.

[@danielalvarado583]

W

[@dgun13]

Joe Biden lyrical tho. That's why he hidin now

[@toddfromgeico9728]

+Cam Newton yea but he isn't as mainstream, most people who like drake don't know him

[@TheSkippShow]

When did Kendrick challange him?

[@tc4cfc]

Theres been a few songs where people have thought he's took a dig at Drake, I can't remember a song where he directly mentioned his name in a diss, maybe Control if you count that but I wouldn't really say its a diss.

[@EZ95]

An ask that can be revisited now!

[@ModestMediaTube]

True story, I haven't listened to any of the diss tracks yet. This beef was pointless from the jump for me.

[@dohertyz]

There hasn't been a mainstream hip hop beef since Jay and Nas for me. All this stuff you see from drake is fake ass label shit

[@torich21]

Dam bruh you sound so emotional.

[@ModestMediaTube]

+MONOAMETSI JUNIOR MOSEMENG was this supposed to be offensive or funny...I'm confused. Lol go ahead, give it another shot.

[@NotoriousTW]

I vaguely knew they had problems but I didn't even know he made tracks lol.

[@leodj02]

U should listen to the first 2 regardless tho cuz they were straight fire

[@u.u.u9969]

Now look at how popular Joe is. Migos Eminem Drake all dissing him these days.

[@RoddyRodbb]

YouYouYou!!! Artist Album Marathons lol right? When he retires

[@Oldschool1943]

joe is only popular now since he's retired lol

[@GoB1996]

And you know the funny thing. Pulling a drake on them now 😂

[@iDewThis4Yu]

Yeah. But his content washed now

[@SENTIENT1709]

why dont they just come together and be Jake

[@CONCEPT_RXCH]

underrated comment holy fucking shit I'm crying

[@blackgrlfly]

or Joke

[@Independent365]

"I got intros for DAYS!!" LMAO

[@PrinceJayReal]

I think Kendrick is the only rapper right now with the combination of popularity and bars to really beat up Drake right now. I don't like what Drake is doing, but objectively he's doing it right.

[@uncledrew7633]

Agree

[@danielfalcao9814]

This was a great conversation, I didn't even think much of the beef itself when it was taking place but this video still managed to capture my full interest

[@MysticalTy]

Meek said Drake didn't write his raps...he proved it...Drake makes a song...that still doesn't change the fact that he didn't write his raps...Drake making a song wasn't relevant because it didn't change what Meek said

[@sims4610593]

Exactly and its sad really. The culture of hip hop is dying

[@Mardarrius]

Exactly💯

[@alfredonisaintclair22]

preach

[@unikraze]

truth

[@Nightwingslayer15]

But yet according to drake stans that shit doesn't matter they'll just say oh he's been on top for such and such years and has a lot more money lmao smh hip hop is really dying when drake and his stans are sucking the life out of hip hop

[@jonathaone]

im always so happy when i see w/Sophie

[@jumeno5200]

When you realize if joe budden was as big as drake......then all these disses would've ended drakes career. Meek had a shot, took it and grazed drake only injuring drakes authenticity.

[@ThanosTheTitan93]

Joe Budden bullied drake with his diss tracks

[@mamba4817]

Nobody fucking with Budden when it comes to diss records

[@AshBashSneakers]

Bars have never ended anyone’s career

[@RedCirkle]

11:33 The liner notes of The Chronic show that Dre didn't write on a lot of songs he rapped on like Let Me Ride and G Thang, people would've known he didn't write when they bought the album

[@branmrrs]

Sophie just fine bruh...

[@Dezdirectz]

True

[@tyranicalconstipation8328]

with a pound of make up Maybe. .that nose tho

[@ajayijackson3204]

+tyranical constipation watch yo mouth

[@Dezdirectz]

+Ajayi Jackson Dam

[@olumidesobodu5450]

Y'all better stop talking bout my wife

[@horacioarias6011]

this is the most pointless beef ever

[@jaywilliams1861]

how was it pointless? drake subliminally dissed Joe,Joe was aware of the diss before it dropped to the public, so he took the initiative and dissed drake before he could release "no shopping".Joe just wanted to let drake know that he's not the one to play with.

[@dgun13]

No it's not. Anything to expose drakes dumbass

[@OGNICKMARSH]

No Lil Durk & Tyga had the most pointless beef ever

[@yankeesrule09]

No the most pointless beef ever is when B.o.B dissed Neil Degrass Tyson

[@Classikh]

+OG Nick Marsh (blackculturetv. com) Lil Durk vs. Tyga was hilarious lmao The Game jumped in out of nowhere and bodied Durk on the Chiraq beat. Had everyone saying "Who the fuck is Lil Durk?" for like 3 weeks.

[@jellosapiens7261]

"So he doesn't respect Meek Mill as a lyricist, as a rapper?" No, he probably doesn't. Does anyone respect Meek a lyricist or a rapper?

[@donttouchtheac8651]

Yeah a lot of people. Theneedledrop too. He can spit but it's just his content that hurts his music. Almost nothing other than money bitches etc

[@assite82]

+Ronald & Hip Hop i agree 💯💯💯

[@Mardarrius]

A lot of people do, I'm a fan of him. He's a great rapper, but not a great lyricist. It's a lot of songs that he's a lyricist on, but he doesn't pursue it as much.

[@donttouchtheac8651]

Mardarrius Morgan yeah hes more into making really hype songs and hits

[@Mardarrius]

Ronald & Hip Hop Yeah I agree. But I just think he's one of most underrated artist in hip hop.

[@JashJhaveri]

You have to give props to DEHH's video editor. Those cuts are smooth! Also does anyone know what is the song they use for the intro?

[@UnknownUPO]

Lil B washed Joe with "T-Shirt and Buddens" back in 2010.

[@qthe6thman]

Best comment.

[@Bigfitz2]

The song was better than I thought it would be that said it was still shit

[@qthe6thman]

King2084 yikes

[@Bigfitz2]

***** care to elaborate

[@qthe6thman]

King2084 basedgod

[@CodysFavorites]

Great discussion. Love the rawness of this one.

[@Tym2024_]

Soulja boy vs bow wow was a better beef than this!

[@dibs0equiped]

That was a classic.

[@Juiceish1]

I just Checked her twitter and I didn't see anything.

[@tyresefisher9208]

+dibs0equiped thatbeef wasn't shit

[@DreDaDon16]

Bow Wow talking shit with the sound effects is fucking classic lmaoooo that dude is such a clown

[@xdivisionvision]

Lil Romeo vs Lil Bow Wow was better than this beef lol

[@theiggod6921]

at the time Drake dissed Meek, Meek had the #1 album and he sold over 240k in his first week. Meek was very relevant at the time. Joe Budden will never be as musically relevant as Meek.

[@theiggod6921]

plus Meek started his beef, Drake started it with Joe after Joe gave "Views" a bad review.

[@hsolanki7971]

lol Ken cracks me up. Appreciating all the content you guys putting out as of late, keep up the great work guys.

[@kayliw4924]

Notifications SQUADD😂 love DEHH

[@sims4610593]

Drake had no choice but to go at meek cause he exposed his ass. He beat him at first but then he decided to kick a dead horse and drop summer 16 then meek retaliated with war pain, which was fire and better than summer 16 in my opinion. And it proved that drake had snitch in his crew. What should of been a win for drake turned into it being a 1-1 situation. Now it come down to the quality of their albums. Views was trash and nothing special from drake, and meek gotta lot to prove to everyone to show that he finished so we gone see. Dc4 in September

[@Mardarrius]

Preach💯

[@stefon815]

drake lost because he has a crew of writers not because Meek spit any bars.

[@sims4610593]

+Sarah ok..

[@GibbySmalls24]

+Sarah L. Did you even listen to War Pain? He responded to Summer16 lyrics before it even came out , stop trying to dickride drake, he didn't even write summer16

[@DefiantMercenary]

it's not even close to 1-1 back to back bodied meek

[@Y2J75]

feefo spot on with drake not beating kendrick lyrically and time has shown that lol but im sure we all know that statement to be true.

[@gunishsharma3570]

The Drake & Eminem "beef" was fuelled by the internet 100%. No actual shit there.

[@CAHall-nq2cd]

Regarding knowledge of whether Dre wrote his rhymes in the 90s, couldn't you have read the liner notes that came with the CD or vinyl or cassette?

[@CAHall-nq2cd]

If a rapper's surname appears in the notes without him actually appearing on the song, then someone else besides the vocalist wrote something.

[@andrewnorriz]

Mike ain't watched 92 yo mtv raps or the Dre interview on arsenio hall where Dre freely states he dosent write his own rhymes

[@awesomecoolepicawesome]

You guys need to review the new De La Soul tape, first album in 9 years.

[@sifisomanyoni9012]

I get what Kinge is saying. If Drake is going to be credited as a rapper, then his occupations list on Wikipedia and wherever else should have an asterisk next to rapper that says see below. eg ... Singer-songwriter, actor, *rapper *did not meet the full criteria of being a fully fledged rapper: See Pusha T and Joe Budden beef

[@lordsabre66]

Sifiso Manyoni S.A.

[@HipHopIsDead0603]

We need more Dead End conversations

[@frankjoyo5498]

DO A CLASSIC ALBUM REVIEW SOON PLEASE

[@RALF0691]

We all knew Dr. Dre didn't write his own lyrics on The Chronic. All you had to do was look inside the booklet for the song credits.

[@SuisLBC]

June Amarillo writing credits doesn’t automatically meant ghostwriters. It can be helps on hooks,helping with subject matter and content.

[@kennethmarshall5598]

I would have expected the DEHH cats to know Dre didn't write anything by the fact that Ice Cube said he wrote everything on "No Vaseline" and by the fact that every track had writer credits. You could hear it in his flow like Eminem's flow on the first track and Jay Z's flow clearly on "Still Dre." I was in high school and knew that. Who didn't know that?! Everyone knew back then that Dre and Puffy didn't write ANYTHING.

[@Isaiah_McIntosh]

Kenneth Marshall I wasn't alive back then but I really don't see myself reading writing credits at that age in that climate.

[@seiteewhSYout]

You guys should do videos like this so much more often

[@mrpostman730]

Jay Z was still getting at Joe during BP3

[@D-money813]

REMINDER, AWHHH

[@MarauderM00gi]

I say you guys create a new segment. Make it just Ken. Sitting in a rocking chair with Al Green playing in the background while he talks about the glory days of hiphop.

[@Richie7788]

Joe Budden is just trying to be relevant again while drake wants to stay relevant

[@jayromeo_19]

Drake had his first #1 hit in his entire career and it stayed there for the majority of the summer. Don't think staying relevant is a big issue for him.

[@Storyofarose]

+Jay Romeo (Pour Out My Soul) still no classic album

[@jayromeo_19]

Anthony Rose I'd argue Take Care is that, but opinions opinions. Besides, it hasn't been long enough for any of his albums to be considered that.

[@tyresefisher9208]

+Jay Romeo (Pour Out My Soul) take care was trash

[@jayromeo_19]

Tyrese Fisher Like I said, opinions opinions

[@supak108]

I have this image of a bible salesman knocking on Kens's door saying, "have you heard the word about Dre?"

[@alexandreavelar9384]

is it weird I think Sophie's hot, but I also think she looks a lot like Chance the Rapper?

[@JohnSmith-fe6xk]

Alexandre Avelar lol

[@BREATHER_]

I'm like 10 minutes in & y'all killin this one choca en el látigo

[@Storyofarose]

Drake got exposed plain simple

[@Storyofarose]

+itzscorpionking lol so why he couldn't respond ????? maybe because Joe was too lyrical for me

[@Jsmoove8k]

he didn't get exposed . nigga Joe sounded like the average hater of drake on his songs . if he got exposed then drake would respond . what meek said was detrimental to his career . Drake won the battle which made up for it in the reality of people's eyes . you don't understand

[@Storyofarose]

+King$upreme lmaooo say what ???? I forgot Drake fans don't listen to lyrics or understand what lyrics are Meek mill was easy for drake because meek not lyrical

[@preciousgorgeousralf137]

No

[@Storyofarose]

+itzscorpionking lol he got drake got 4-0

[@esoteriix3362]

I love you guys so much.

[@erronking7783]

To believe that drake doesn't write anything is just plan stupid but to act like he does write it all nowadays would be pretty dumb also. I think drake does try to keep his name in the convos with his time stamp songs or his closer songs or intros etc... songs of that nature but when it comes to the cub shit he probably gets help i doubt it's someone who literally sits and writes everything and say here you go drake if anything i could see it as group thing of creation.

[@Wallescontent]

Exactly. It's ironic because you would think Drake would be capable of making sub par bars over trap beats but he gets help with those but the insightful bars are the ones he writes smh.

[@erronking7783]

Wvlle ion know man it could be flows that help also even QM said that he's watch drake craft and pen his own songs but he has help craft flows with him too.

[@RALF0691]

Goddamn Myke act like there wasn't CD's back then. The damn credits showed who wrote Dre's verses. And I'm fuckin' pissed that the old heads at the table didn't bring that up, but they probably only had a bootleg copy of the album. And Myke should know of credits because he buys vinyl records all the time. Do they think CD's came out in 1999?

[@Almightylos]

I 100% agree with Ken in this video. Am I wrong?

[@ckscopez]

I completely forgot about that krs one and nelly beef

[@gcornelius308]

funny how only after we found out about the ghost writers you get all these ppl saying they "never" thought drake was a lyricist. nobody said that shit in 2010. gtfoh

[@troc1795]

Right!!!

[@lancemoss6937]

Exactly! Trying to make excuses for dude being a Fraud! Drake = FRAUD

[@gcornelius308]

+Lance Moss nah my point was that when his 1st 2 albums came out he had a few haters for various reasons, but ppl were not hating on his (or whoevers) lyrics. ppl said he made songs that pandered to women, he was too emotional, etc. but not many ppl said he wasnt a dope mc. at the time you just couldn't make a serious argument against his albums(he did fall off hard to me since thwn tho)

[@ems6321]

Great conversation as usual. Mike, you probably didn't realize it but what you said at: 22:12 is kind of offensive. Still love the show though.

[@GamerStyle808]

Pointless beef yet you made a 23 min video about it.

[@unikraze]

they're just answering a question that someone sent in

[@thebrilliantmrpedro]

Still pointless. Lol.

[@MiLLz830]

word should of been 10min

[@deonnelson9780]

Pedro De Leon How?

[@---kr3zg]

@@thebrilliantmrpedro typical drake fan trying to sweep this kind of stuff under the rug how is your favorite singer being bullied and punished pointless?

[@jsmozie]

I enjoyed this video

[@---kr3zg]

Joe destroyed drake lmao 🤣

[@87er_]

Ya'll bugging everyone always knew Dre didnt write his shit even on the Chronic Myke, he had Snoops flow on Nuthin But a G Thang, and there was a reason his enemies never used it againt him cuz it was public knowledge

[@stancool9092]

feefo is feelin himself 2 much

[@Head_Turnah]

10:19 The thing is though, Rhianna and Britney Spears are known as just singers, so they don't have to really do anything else besides that. Rappers don't do anything else than just spit bars and if you aren't writing them (or at least in Dre and Kanye's case making beats to go with those songs), then wtf are you doing in Hip-Hop altogether? As a rapper writing and spitting lyrics are your only true talent unless you're also a DJ..

[@Asek-le4zx]

sophie marry me girl!!!

[@blodiaaa6990]

Calm your thirst

[@michaelstark3496]

Look at her twitter and think again about what you said

[@Dezdirectz]

+Michael Stark Savage

[@MrVIP1993]

I just had a glance through it Michael, I was so disgusted.

[@dibs0equiped]

That new Vince Staples EP is fire. Hope you talk about it.

[@justnick47]

when y'all replacing ken

[@pbm2324]

never

[@jisforjae]

why would they do that? because he doesn't like the same rappers as you?

[@justnick47]

+Matt he does? damn no wonder this channel is trash

[@GeorgetheGreat]

Lmaooooo , ken started DEHH tho

[@reggiediggy8341]

L

[@Demsky83]

Thank you

[@Kevin.A.S]

I was waiting for someone to talk about the Krs-One/Nelly beef

[@Kevin.A.S]

Could also talk about Tyler the Creator and Hopsin

[@joshuaDstarks]

Forgot alllllllllllll about that one.

[@FallenX100]

18:45 did you watch the whole video? they started talking about the Krs-One/Nelly beef at 18:45

[@Kevin.A.S]

FallenX100​ that's why I said "I was waiting". Lol

[@FallenX100]

insecurity intensifies oh my bad man, that's what you meant. sorry. we're on the same page now lol

[@trollking3329]

99 percent high heels/sandals 0.3 percent boat shoes 0.3 percent timbs 0.3 percent Jordans

[@BrandMath-ns5yc]

This is like "First Take" for hip hop

[@BigBangTheory92]

Room For Improvement is Drake's first mixtape guys. Came out in 2006. Comeback Season dropped in 2007.

[@herbdashninja7795]

love yall discussions man! I'm curious about what yall think of KRS-1 defending Afrika Bambataa and his comments.

[@anthonytrigueros4964]

You know you're early when there's no thumbnail yet

[@ArmandTheBlackRevolutionary]

The point is Dre was a creator in some aspect of the artistic process thats why the blow of him not writing his raps wasnt as grand. He was the producer so in a sense the tracks were still him. Drake doesnt do shit, thats why he's illegitimate.

[@KillerChickenz01]

14:32 had me dying

[@Nic214E]

Every DEHH conversation: Myke vs. Ken

[@thekhayriera4811]

Bruhhhh Modest said if Kimbo called Ken a bitch ass nigga. Ken's face had me dead.

[@unwokorie1692]

great discussion, I enjoyed watching and listening. lmao big fella was hella salty

[@jaymorgan8811]

Basically forgot about this until this video

[@fixxxer3456]

The fact I hadn't even heard of this "beef" speaks volumes to it.

[@deedizeldafreak]

LMAO @ Myke "when you were in your senior year of college when chronic came out" 😂😂😂😂

[@YanniBeatz]

The Intro Beat SO MF LOVELYYYYYYY

[@kenbrown1686]

Drake is the Justin Bieber of rap. He makes music for little girls...

[@jALust4Lifee92]

Might as well have C town listen to comeback season and review it lol

[@apostleraw]

The opinions of the younger guys (not the youth) is sad but you gotta respect it. Much love to the whole staff.

[@fumanshoo2]

Us 40-somethings KNEW that Dre was not a writer of his own lyrics ever since Ice Cube left NWA and formed "The Lynch Mob."

[@chief3000]

those long ass videos NWA used to make showed the dynamic of the crew. one dynamic being that other folks wrote dre's rhymes. so did the source, 4080, rap pages, etc.

[@mikkos.j.121]

I believe "Everyday Struggle" ripped y'all off

[@nickgoodlock263]

please, people were talking like drake was up there with the best lyrically! but as soon as a proper MC came at him he shit himself

[@exotic.olive.oil.taster.1999]

Yall should talk about the possibility of that kendrick and drake beef even happeneing....shit would be crazy.

[@ihavemydignity]

the thing about drake is he tried 2 hide his ghostwriters. dre was pretty open about it early on even if it wasn't common knowledge on the the chronic, its still something you can probably guess that or at least not b surprised or upset by the news

[@sophakingcool5532]

this is exactly how Eminem toyed with Canibus throughout all his albums

[@---kr3zg]

If u listened to Canibus's albums and actually listened to his side canibus was toying with him lyrically shot after shot after shot after shot their vocab isn't even close canibus will rhyme 5 to 6 syllable words that actually rhyme eminem just bends the word to make it sound like it rhymes also back in that time emcees would actually respond to each other regardless of their status and your right this is sort of the same as their explaining in the video eminem is drake in this situation and canibus was joe budden on the lyrical side of things canibus is in a different weight class than eminem and eminem knew it

[@kittenpuke8918]

21:13 this is officially my favorite Ken face now.

[@suedecomponent8931]

I knew from my brothers that Dre didn't write his own shit even back during the Chronic era. Even kids in my elementary school knew he didn't write his shit. It was very much common knowledge. Maybe not to southerners, though.

[@theiggod6921]

if were not going to call Drake a "rapper" and don't consider him "hip-hop" then stop talking about him on hip hop forums. Stop giving him hip hop accolades, awards, and credibility.

[@Ashtray61420]

Dre always gave credit to his writers though. There is a difference between a writer and a ghost writer. And Eazy E had a rhyme about Cube writing all his rhymes. Saying you are a top rapper that writes all your raps but having a ghost writer is what's wack.

[@lavarbradley8816]

If Snoop, DOC or Warren's name was in the song credits but wasn't on the song, that's the 1st clue that Dre didin't write it or at least had help writing it...album art and credits were gold before digital downloads took over

[@shelbya1870]

Drake doesn't name the people he is "dissing". Doesn't count. He couldn't handle an actual battle.

[@RegalToneT]

Love you guys keep up the good work and talk about Jefferey!!!? What say you?

[@dominicthelordkabinga]

I have to agree with Ken on this one and props to sticking to his opinion.

[@AnimeProfilePicture]

Del wrote for Ice Cube in the beginning aswell

[@noahyusuf3481]

This beef's like that one friend you got who roasts the fuck out you but is still your homie

[@TheAnthony523]

"Drake and Joe Budden are not in the same weight class." They aren't even in the same genre. Drake is a pop artist who can rap, not really a rapper. That's why he doesn't need to respond to Budden b/c he doesn't really have much cred to lose in the hip hop realm

[@DJUndershep]

I never thought Dre was writing his stuff. Ever since NWA, it was knowledge that DOC and them dudes was basically writing for him. And I wasn't in HS when they came out...lol...I was older

[@hansolodolo92]

boy it was so much yall miss so much with this beef