The Pre-Adamite World and the Origin of Sin w/ Dr. Stuart Graham

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[@renejacques8288]

Very good revelation about how the single most changing event in the history of the planet is the birth of Jesus Christ and the power it gives the believer. I feel extremely empowered by that revelation. It's the single most important lesson I learned from this video. I'm very blessed to have watched it.

[@SegaSavageMusic]

yes god is tyr judge satan is the states attorney and jesus is your lawyer when you go court which side do yoi sit on the left which for the judge is the right and jesus sits with you on the right hsnd of god

[@mrvax2]

This was excellent. It is willful pride that keeps some folks from realizing all the Bible facts brought to light in this lesson.

[@davidappleton2905]

Thank you, Dr. Graham, for your very good teaching on the Pre - Adamite World and the Origin of Sin. I have always wondered about that gap in Genisis 1: 1 - 2. God has answered it, Praise the Lord, thank you again. May the Good Lord continue to enrich you with His Wisdom and Boldness in shedding His light in this wicked world.

[@scotttousey227]

Let us make man in our image was the other races Gid finished His work on the 7th day and rested from all His work after the 7th day God planted a garden in the east of edon and had no man to till it so he formed the man adam to till the ground from the dust of the earth and breathed the breath of life here God formed adam from an already created dust in chapter 1 He created from nothing they male and female dident receive the breath of life God's spirit in chapter 1 the word adam means to see blood in the face to blush ruddy adam was the son of God read Luke's genealogy all beings are not God's children only adamites are sons of God .

[@maudeannelockhart7844]

I really enjoyed this lecture, opened my eyes to a lot of things that was in question for me. Thank you so much, very well done!!!

[@entrepreneurcity3317]

I really enjoy the preadamite teachings I also appreciate you allowing us to dialogue in the comment section 😤🤝I observed most of the other teachers disabled it when teaching this topic 💯

[@davidl.williams7366]

Doubters about the word, "was" should be "became" need to know that the same Hebrew word used there translated, "was" is translated "became" where Lot's wife "became" a pillar of salt. The man is right.

[@scotttousey227]

The jews changed the original paleo text to masarotic text to change dates and prophecy trying to disclaim Jesus being the messiah and his perfect timing of his first arrival as Jesus said beware the pharisees hypocrites and SCRIBES it was a obvious statement for us in this time

[@rickiemoore6014]

Homework is correct

[@millennialfalcon1547]

My understanding is The word can be translated both ways technically. The clearest textual argument for me, comes from the verse that says- God did NOT create the world "without form and void". If he did not create it that way, then it must have 'become" that way.

[@davidl.williams7366]

@@millennialfalcon1547 I didn't mention that in the early scrolls, the word, "was," was not even used. It was added by later translators. (One thing at a time.) #;o)

[@davidl.williams7366]

Exactly. In my KJV, that word, "was," was in italics. Check your version.@@cajaction7995

[@Johnny-wr1wp]

Very fascinating topics! A great listen

[@WDA-]

This is the best lecturer I ever sat through in my life. And the most important. The unbelieving world pays hundreds of thousands of dollars for college. Just to challenge the will of God. It takes great faith to believe in the Big bang

[@pamelaulery2772]

I don't know about anyone else, but with my audio turned all the way up, the volume is still so low it makes listening very difficult. It's frustrating because this is something I would really like to hear.

[@grgustafson3777]

An external speaker helped greatly. I used a bluetooth made to play music outside.

[@kabodick]

Must be your device. I didn’t have any issues the volume being too low.

[@michaeldollar5643]

I remember Dr Stuart Graham, very good teaching.

[@Eph.6_10-20]

Thank you SO much for your upload! I really enjoyed this. I’m in agreement with you and your explanations were fantastic and so easy to understand. Praise and Glory to God Almighty for bringing me by chance to this channel. Thank you Lord, I’m very grateful for this. Xx✝️

[@711yada]

Excellent analysis.

[@johnchavez928]

Such a great teaching...

[@KennyVert]

Btw, The fact that the same word meaning replenish is used with Adam and Eve that was used with Noah, is probably the most interesting thing I have heard taught from the Bible in a long time. I mean… it changes everything.

[@bobjohnson1689]

Sorry Kenneth , it changes nothing , the word replenish only meant to fill when the KJV was introduced , God told Adam to fill the earth and God told Noah to fill the earth .

[@MaineMachinist]

@@bobjohnson1689 then why in the dozens upon dozens of other times the word “fill” or “filled” is used in the KJV, it never used the word replenish for that? Joseph FILLED their sacks with corn. He didn’t REPLENISH the bags with corn. That word REPLENISH is only used TWICE in the KJV…. That’s purposeful

[@xXMiniMegaXx]

you missed his point. The way you view the word replenish is the modern definition of it. in 1611 it didn’t mean what it does today. it simply meant “to fill”. The Hebrew words for fill and also for replenish are the same words, and the translators may have thought that when the Hebrew word was in reference to humans, the word ‘replenish’ was more accurate because it is a more personal and less objectified word. and the word ‘fill’ is better for things like fish and corn because they aren’t personal in the same way humans are; they are more viewed as objects. these are from a website that is dedicated to finding archaic definitions for words in the KJV (because language changes overtime and there’s words in the KJV we don’t use anymore): Webster’s 1828 Dictionary “Replenish” 1. To fill; to stock with numbers or abundance. 2. To finish; to complete. [Not in use.] Whereas the word fill has a more object oriented definition in Elizabethan English; the first four definitions of fill: Webster’s 1828 Dictionary “Fill” 1. Properly, to press; to crowd; to stuff. 2. To store; to supply with abundance. 3. To cause to abound; to make universally prevalent. 4. To satisfy; to content. The rest are like it. It just seems that the word fill isn’t fitting for people, and replenish fits more properly when talking about people in Elizabethan English (the language of the KJV). If you were going to argue for the word replenish to mean what it means now, you would have to disregard the Hebrew (meaning the KJV english is more inspired than the original Hebrew), and that the modern meaning of the words is what they were originally intended to mean (meaning that the KJV was inspired and meant for a later group of people, and the early translators didn’t understand what they were writing). The implication of the second point also means that you aren’t allowed to use an archaic dictionary for definitions of the archaic words, because they need to be understood with modern definitions, which a lot of the words don’t have modern definitions because they have become dead words. Or else then you would be picking and choosing which words can have archaic definitions and which words can have modern meanings. The fact of the matter is that the translators of the KJV simply wouldn’t have even understood that the word replenished meant to refill, because it didn’t actually mean that at that time ‘Replenish’ archaic definition: www.kingjamesbibledictionary.com/Dictionary/replenish ‘Fill’ archaic definition: www.kingjamesbibledictionary.com/Dictionary/fill

[@KennyVert]

I have become very fascinated with the pre-Adamite world, and am wondering why I’m just hearing about this stuff in my 30’s.

[@Josieb4008]

Because ppl don't bother to compare to the original language

[@corinnebrosseau6896]

They dont read it they just listen to preachers and teachers without verifying it themselves..no study involved.

[@tlezzy8252]

Well done

[@Romeo7414GD]

LOVE IT 👍🏾👍🏾

[@LionWithTheLamb]

This makes sense, but I am going to need to consider and reason about this all. That may possibly take a long time.

[@paulmorris8762]

you are correct re "was" being rendered "became" as scholars from Derek Prince, to amny today will agree. Also, the first word v2 "and" is more properly rendered "but" so then the passage would read "But the earth became formless and void..."

[@castanheiro6170]

Paul, you don't know what you're talking about. You can't just change the language and put any old word in there that you want to. The word in the Hebrew is "and", not "but! they are different words. Don't just inject what you want it to say. That is exactly what God was talking about when He said, "don't change the Word of God!", or you'll be in danger of hell. God said what He said and that's it. I don't care whether you or anyone else likes it or doesn't like it! It's God's book to us, not our writings that we can change! Get yourself straightened out and lined up with God's word before it's too late!

[@hsumsil52]

Such deep knowledge with easy explanation...thank you so much...

[@austint316835]

Excellent Presentation, many thanks for sharing! Hero's still left in the world wanting everyone to have the tools & knowledge of things that actually matter 😊🎉😇

[@cressada]

Thank god for you brother.you have the guts to tell the truth.may god bless you.!

[@Light777-fs6rx]

It is possible & straight forward that as God was creating it became or came into existence without form but then God formed it as He continued, we don't need to go beyond scripture

[@Light777-fs6rx]

The older meaning of the word replenish is actually simply fill, so the hiding of that info casts distrust on this teaching

[@John-ge2ne]

He nice. Thank you.

[@jima3995]

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, AND ALL THAT IS WITHIN THEM.

[@somenteasescrituras4064]

What is the commerce of Lúcifer in Ezequiel 28?

[@martinone9]

There’s a difference between making something and creating. I can make a chair out of a pile of wood but I don’t have the power to create a chair. God CREATED the heavens and the earth in the BEGINNING. Afterwards He separated the light from the darkness,waters from dry land etc.

[@spikenomoon]

Man brought death into the world. So if their was a civilization there was no death. Or they are not eternal with souls. Maybe it was all angels that Lucifer lorded over. 6 days and one for rest. The magnetic fields disprove this theory. Their finding dinosaurs with flesh on their bones also human footprints with Dino’s. The moon would be out of place for our perfect eclipses. Oh all civilizations have dinosaurs in their carvings and art work. But when was Satan evicted from heaven? This helps that problem. I believe when he was kicked out that he hit the earth at the speed of light and knocked it off it’s axis. Why would God make it son confusing ? It is important for salvation because it cause people to believe in evolution which means the Bible is not accurate. The was no death or decay before mankind. Leaves would never fall from the trees. Fruit was meat for all life. Nobody pooped or farted nothing stank or was offensive. Woman didn’t complain it was perfectly In Every way. Ps Did they receive grace or did they even sin ??

[@Cuvoastoh6321]

@jima3995 Exodus 20:11 is written in the contextual focus of the Sabbath and it's surrounding importance and how it must be kept. But also it's really important to understand the word "made" Hebrew word 6213 from the Strongs, there must be about 70 applications of this word "made" and a few are: advance, bring forth, dressed, fashion, furnished, perform, prepare, procure, set, and trim In fact the word is more often translated "do" 1333 times more than twice as many times as it is translated "make" in the King James, 653 times Also look in 2nd Peter 3:5 and you will find the phrase "by the word of God the heavens were of old" Jeremiah 4:22-28 God himself speaking in "creation language" tells of some type of cataclysmic event that occurred before man. In verse 28 He, God, appoints a time for the earth to mourn and no one knows how long that mourning time was, the scripture does not reveal.

[@BigBearHuskyMusher]

Excellent. Solid teaching

[@demetrisswilliams9870]

Replenish do not mean refill but it mean to fill this is Hebrew interpretation

[@Landis_Grant]

This speaker hasn’t missed many meals.

[@HuHWhat-yi8cp]

@land🤣

[@ronickokeith7085]

I enjoyed this. Learned something

[@lme9743]

Thank you for this wonderful teaching.🙏

[@iamcedricpowell8051]

I don 't have time to go into now. But this was very interesting. I am still studying this... But I am open to the Truth! I do not think that scripture in Isaiah about Lucifer falling is totally talking about the the Pre Earth that you speak about. I believe that some of it is speaking about the past and the latter part is speaking about the future Post Adam 's fall world. The scripture in Peter is a great one. I never saw it like that before. So it gives me curiosity to think, pray, and study more on this. But in the end. It is a great discussion to have . BUT I think it is too complicated for many people. Including myself in some ways and I love the higher thought stuff. That is why I am here. In the end this is a discussion that does not matter much to most of us. Meaning our faith will not rest on this issue. But I see the usefulness of the discussion. Some Christians don 't want to be against Science... You are pointing out hey let's not fight this if it is in the Bible.... It 's Science!!! I get it . Just complicated.

[@crookedinapot8980]

The word let implies that there is a hindrance to what was or what should be.

[@JKing-wm3xb]

Great Teaching!!

[@fredrickhollenbeck1036]

Im blessed to have listen to this Sermon

[@titodalporto1527]

Dr. Graham You should have in this video lesson pointed out that the Creator of everything that is and exists is Jesus Christ and the only one He answers to, is God the Father.

[@kylestephens4133]

Exodus 20:11 "For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."

[@jennjenneightyeight3968]

What "day" was the sun created. We cant call it a regular day until then. The light that was present before the sun was created was not the sun. So time was not the same. 1 day with the Lord is as a thousand years...

[@kylestephens4133]

@@jennjenneightyeight3968 the Hebrew word for day, yom, is modified by the phrase "evening-morning". In the Hebrew OT text, "evening-morning" is always a literal evening and morning. The type/source of light is irrelevant, since each day is an evening-morning which is a 24 hour period. Therefore, we can call each day of creation a regular day because each day ends with the phrase "and the evening and morning was the first day," "second day", etc. Ultimately, what is defined here for us is the seven day week. As to "one day is as a thousand years" this is true for the Lord, but not to us. As I just mentioned, the creation week establishes our days of work and rest. The Lord rested as an example to us. He didn't need to rest. He could have created everything in an instant, but He didn't. These were accomplished as they were for our needs, not His.

[@jennjenneightyeight3968]

@@kylestephens4133 I give up God is outside of time but you cant think beyond 24 hours.

[@kylestephens4133]

@@jennjenneightyeight3968 you give up easy. God is outside time, but we aren't. this is basic exegesis, but that doesn't seem to be your thing. God bless.

[@TheRgordon16]

Another thing to consider is the fact that the heavens above had nothing to do with Noah's flood. So why would Peter even mention the heavens above being old if he was referring to Noah's flood?

[@Dazzwidd]

Exactly, 2 Peter 3:5-6 "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished"

[@fgbowen]

47:17 - in agreement for the most part... 90%, maybe more. And so thankful for your work. I believe though that for the believer "Where sin increased, Grace increased all the more" (or Super Abounds). This is not the same as licensiouness (sp?) - it is not saying "sin that Grace may increase". Jesus is an Overpayment for sin in the same way that the sun is an over-provision for the earth - Which is not saying salvation is for the earth without belief - I am not saying that - The Bible does not reflect that; I am not saying that, but only that Jesus was a Super-Abounding gift of Grace. *** I realize I am not even half way through your lesson - So you may say some things which clear-up a few misconceptions on my part - but generally speaking, your work and teaching here is excellent- thank you so much. I do believe it is important and dynamic to remember that Adam was the "first man" and JC was the "last man". I am not saying there were no pre-adamic men, and I do not believe the Heavenly Father means that by calling Adam the "first man" - I am not really drawing any huge black and white lines... I'm simply stating the words "first" and "last". This has to do with God choosing to tell us of Adam (And more importantly Jesus) regarding sin (or no sin in Christ). "Sin is not taken into account where there is no law" (I think I said that backwards, but you get my point). God's directive about the Tree... was a law which Adam and Eve broke. Before that... there was no "law" per-say (given to man)-(I'm talking about sin in man, not in celestial beings such as our enemy the devil where evil was "found"). Therefore, pre-adamic man could (as you say [thus far]) easily been very sinful - just as they clearly were before the flood. My gut tells me though that you may be going to say that celestial beings were clearly at work screwing things up before the time of Adam (pre-Adamic), etc. And... I would be in complete agreement.

[@aimeedonaldson7427]

The restrainer is the Holy Spirit. The church will not be taken before the tribulation.

[@aaroneaston4700]

Did not watch the whole thing---but very, very good thus far!! Blessings!

[@castanheiro6170]

Not good at all! Pure poppy-cock and foolishness! Don't be deceived by these hucksters!

[@grace2u776]

I've seen some Bible versions translate was to became which I believe is the more correct translation and gives a better sense of the Earth became formless and void....

[@jafojafo5412]

It’s my position that the 6000 year timeline is from the fall/sin of Adam. We have no idea how long or how many kids Adam and Eve had before their fall. I agree with the GAP theory as well.

[@paulcastillo953]

I would much prefer the questions where is racism came from as well as greed , by humans

[@exclusive_148]

This topic is soo interesting. But there are questions to be asked. "dark was on the face of the deep". I always thought dark was referring to space. I also thought verse 1 tells you God created everything, and then tells you how he started forming the world. Its a smooth transition. Its so natural to look at genesis 1 about God creating the world for the first time than to think of it as God restoring the creating. Wheres the original creation story in the bible?? Or do Gap theorist say genesis only tells you God created the heavens and the earth (gen 1:1) then goes right into how he restored it without telling us why he had to restore it in genesis?

[@MrWookie21]

I listened to some D. Prince sermons about this topic. He is speaking of an inference process relating the sequence of the scriptural events together, that's bringing many Bible commentators to consider this interpretation as possible. He also operated a comparison between the restoration process during God's earth restoration and the restoration in man, since both only take place in the light. When the Spirit & the Word of God initiated their revelation process. Nothing was restored as long as earth was kept in darkness. Likewise God doesn't operate our transformation process until every aspect of our heart has been brought into light to us. And this is initiated through the Spirit & the Word of God. This parallel is abounding for the restoration of the creating at Genesis 1.

[@dolphingirl12885]

The fall of Lucifer must have been pre-Adam because his fall sin was described as trying to be like the most high, not for deceiving Eve which was obviously a sin

[@donthomas4793]

Read revelation 12 that gives you the timeframe of when Lucifer fell or the dragon if you will.

[@kennethmeeker6369]

Jesus returns as a lion ,yea it’s not to hug everybody some but not all ,holiness is out the window and none we see heaven without it

[@rickprince3765]

How far back in the beginning?

[@-jjudah7978]

Great the whole way through.

[@castanheiro6170]

If you thought this was great then you are ignorant of the truth and easily deceived. Read God's Word for yourself and ask the Holy Spirit to teach you instead of a Charlatan, like this clown! I'm sick and tired of people twisting and changing the written Word of God into what they want it to say! Let God be true and every man a liar!

[@Dazzwidd]

@@castanheiro6170 You sir, are a scoffer

[@astridtravel7991]

Very very clear and informative. Really really helped. I enjoyed this!!!

[@TheRgordon16]

Wrong! Satan did not tempt Adam. It was his wife who tempted him. The scriptures clearly says that Adam was NOT deceived by the devil. His wife was deceived. After she ignored her husband's words and accepted the serpent's words, she convinced her husband to eat the fruit. He listened to her despite the fact that he knew God told him not to eat it. Adam was never deceived about anything. He simply defied God and followed his wife. He did not exert his headship role over the woman. Instead he wimped out and yielded to her. The same spirit we have here in America today. Militant women are wanting to usurp the man's headship role and wimpy men are giving in to her misguided demands.

[@andreshipp1134]

That is bull!! Adam was right with eve. Adam could have said NO!! But he didn't!! God agreement was with Adam not eve. Stop making excesses for Adam!!

[@TheRgordon16]

andre shipp: Are you even a Christian? Seems like you need to get right with The Lord first before you call yourself correcting a Christian about the scriptures. Nothing I wrote was false. And I did not say Adam was not right with Eve, so don't misinterpret what I wrote. Eve convinced her husband to do something he KNEW was against God's word. Adam told Eve it was forbidden to eat from that particular tree; NOT GOD. She did NOT listen to her husband's words, but instead, she listened to the serpent. She ignored her husband, ate from the tree, and then convinced her husband to follow her lead. Adam did NOT rebuke the serpent nor did he stop his wife. Instead, he allowed her to talk him into disobeying God. Go and read a Bible and see what God said to Adam "Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake..." Did you read that??? Eve SINNED against her husband by convincing him to eat from the tree. That's why The Lord punished her in childbearing. Adam sinned because he listened to her. So you are totally wrong. Their relationship at that point became compromised because Eve did not listen to her husband. The scriptures teach that the woman is suppose to submit to her husband's authority but Eve did not do that. Jesus also taught that we will be tempted in life. But He warned the ones who would actually do the tempting! Eve was under satanic influence NOT ADAM. And while she was under Satan's spell she tempted her husband to disobey God. Adam fell to his wife's temptation. He put his wife's word above God's word. Eve ignored her husband and Adam ignored his Father. And so here we are today in a fallen world because of them both.

[@andreshipp1134]

The NIV. 1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” 2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ” 4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” 6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. Read the last line. Adam was with her the whole time!! He heard the whole conversation she had with the serpent. Why didn't he correct Eve when she said it wrong? He knew the correct instructions, but he was silent. WHY?? Eve didn't have to trick, beg, seduce, whine, or anything else to get Adam to eat the fruit. READ verse 6!! She took and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, WHO WAS WITH HER, and he ate it. But after God busted them for he acted like child, well both of them! The man said, “The woman you put here with me-she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.” 13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate. Adam said, she the women YOU PUT HERE (HIM BLAMING God)gave it to me. Eve said the serpent lied to me. Adam could have told her the truth. BUT HE DIDN'T EVEN TRY!!! So don't try to make Eve the villain and Adam the seduced husband in the story. Adam was way worst!!

[@TheRgordon16]

@@andreshipp1134 you need to read the complete story. What did God say to Adam "because you have LISTENED to the VOICE of your wife and have eaten from the tree..." So Eve SPOKE to Adam and CONVINCED him to eat from the tree. Yes he stood there and listened to the conversation and watched Eve eat from the tree. But after she ate it she SPOKE to Adam, she did not just turn around and give him the fruit. Dont just read certain parts of the story without reading EVERYTHING. All you are doing is presenting an incomplete picture. When Satan told Eve she would become like God knowing good and evil, was he lying about that?

[@TheRgordon16]

@@andreshipp1134 And another thing. You are totally missing my point. I am not saying Adam was innocent. He was not innocent of anything. Im just setting the record straight, that Adam was not deceived by the devil nor was it the devil that convinced Adam to eat from the tree. It was his WIFE. Yet that did not resolve Adam of his responsiblity to obey God no matter who it was that tried to get him to eat from the tree.

[@Rkatek]

Paul says he wouldn't know what sin was if it werent for the law and commandments. Yea, we need to know what not to do as SIN is the transgression of Gods law

[@gracegraham3147]

The Sun didn't devour the moon, he did explain this. 🙂

[@haorla]

why was satan cast down to earth instead of another place in the universe anyone.

[@crispinswainstonharrison9042]

Gluttony is one of the worlds great sins.

[@Geezuznotcomingforu]

My very first thought!

[@HuHWhat-yi8cp]

@@Geezuznotcomingforu 🤣

[@HuHWhat-yi8cp]

@crisp 🤣

[@justme-cr3xe]

i will be in HEAVEN forever.

[@fgbowen]

49:20 (?) - yes, I figured you would come to this.. sin was in Satan. Yes. Peter J. Peters has some good words on Gen. 1 & 2. You may be interested. I am not in agreement with his full belief about Genesis 6, but he does have excellent words concerning Gen. 1 e 2. (Regarding the subject of Pre-Adamic man) If I can find the link later, I'll post it here.

[@grgustafson3777]

15th verse of 28th chapter of Ezekiel says the king of Tyre was created perfect, without fault or blame. Most scholars agree this was Lucifer because in verse 14, he is declared a cherubim. Cherubs do not morph into mortal men. Humans are a different creation, much like cats and dogs are both animals, but one will never become the other.

[@philipbuckley759]

another thing about this preadamic population...how does the Bible begin, on day one...etc....

[@williamcritchley]

Where did Dr Stuart Graham come from?

[@user-yn2ct2ie9m]

very well-developed arguments within the time restraints

[@kevinkall8547]

The first verse of scripture is misinterpreted Bereʾšyt 1:1 "In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth", particularly the word בּרא (bârâ') which everyone thinks means 'created'. It also means 'cut' or 'cut down' as in Joshua 17:15,18. This other interpretation matches the second verse: "And the earth came to be formless and empty". So how can this world be created and then made void?? Plug in the new definition into the two verses: "In the beginning, Elohim cut down the heavens and the earth. And the earth came to be formless and empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep." That is the true phrase no one wants to see, but it does support the world before the one we live in and gives evidence of the world of past.

[@jpaul1599]

Believers know that the Word of God is truth, inerrant and that God does not lie. Once we accept the above, the following truths and the very first prophetic declaration of Genesis 1:2 about "the end of the first Earth at the end of time" are not questionable. Genesis 1:1 > In "the Beginning" God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:2 > [End] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. Isaiah 46:9-10 > ... I am God, and there is none like me, "Declaring the End from the Beginning", and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 2 Peter 3:10 > ... and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, "the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Revelation 21:1 > ... and the "First Earth" were passed away; Based on all of the above, If Scripture is interpreted correctly and honestly then there is absolutely no scope for anyone to use their imagination to propound the false narrative of a pre-Adamic race or civilization or any history before Day 1 of the 6 day creation week. Besides, to accept the preAdamic race etc would require believers to then think that not only did Lucifer (Satan, Devil ) outwit God by rebelling in Heaven leading to the first destruction of creation, he again outwit God by deceiving Eve in the garden etc. God created all beings (angels, man etc) with the foreknowledge that Lucifer would rebel (out of pride and envy), that Eve would be deceived through unbelief in HIS word (but belief in word of the serpent) and that would require HIS own intervention as the atonement to redeem " believers" with whom HE will dwell forever on the New Earth after the thousand year reign of Christ from Jerusalem. God made provision for redemption even before HE created any thing (before the foundation of the world) and that's why Scripture states in 1 Peter 1:18-21 > Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, ... But with the precious blood of Christ, ... Who verily was "foreordained before the foundation of the world", but was manifest in these last times for you, Who (referring to believers) by Him do believe in God, that raised Him up from the dead, and gave Him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. There is a reason why an omniscient God's created beings are given a free will - who of their own violation , based on the Word of God, can choose to believe in HIM or not believe, and to continue in that faith or walk away from faith. HE did not create preprogrammed robots unlike man (under Luciferian influence ) who now seek to merge man with machine and thus create robotic slaves who will only do the will of the master (Luci.... ). Shalom P.S. its sad that wise and well versed Bible believing people (e.g. Steve Quayle because they have been influenced by theories emanating from some theological institutions which have formulated the " gap theory" to try and corrupt the inerrant Word of God) give credence to fables & myths or some preAdamic civilization etc which would only be possible if God was caught unawares by DNA modifications by fallen celestial beings and therefore God destroying the previous creation and somehow God then created Man on Earth but somehow celestial beings again proceeded to do something similar in the days of Enoch forcing God to destroy all flesh (saving just the 8 souls and those numbered creatures on the Ark) through the universal flood in the days of Noah. The truth scripturally is that God in HIS omniscience foreordained redemption through Jesus Christ before HE created the first Earth and Man. All other interpretations are just man's imagination working fantasies. There is no way man can put a date (through radiometric or other methods etc) about age of rocks, strata etc that preceded the universal flood in the days of Noah. The only timeline is based on the genealogy from Adam onwards ... approx 5948 years according to the Dead Sea Scrolls - watch Ken Johnson on KZbin - kzbin.info4hh_VTFWLEs?feature=share The truth is Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 are the bookends of history of the world that HE created. Genesis 1:3 onwards is HIS-STORY. Accept it in totality and don't cherry pick to create your own version of HIS-STORY.

[@kevinkall8547]

@@jpaul1599 Quayle is a crackpot. You lost me when you mentioned him. Lost all credibility. So just because the verse 1st just meant to say in the beginning of this era you're assuming it speaks of the universe as a whole. I'm talking facts you're talking assumption. we will see in the end

[@Loyaltochrist]

If Adam and lord Jesus were tempted by devil then who tempted Lucifer?

[@william0795]

Lucifer were made good at his purpose-no one tempted him, God made him God own adversary.

[@eswn1816]

Bible: Lucifer fell because of his own pride. He choose his path in opposition to God.

[@hayneshuntingcom]

He said God did not create the devil? So Isaiah the prophet was wrong ? " I created evil (ra) ..." Also: In Isaiah 45:1-7, the prophet foresees God calling and anointing King Cyrus of Persia to be His chosen instrument to subdue nations (namely Babylon) for the sake of His people Israel. Cyrus, who was not yet born at the time of the prophecy, did not know the Lord or even acknowledge His existence, making him an unlikely choice to be God’s anointed. The pick of Cyrus proved all the more that God is sovereign and in control of all things and people. As the only true God and Creator of all life, His authority and decisions cannot truly be challenged,. And if you read Job, the enemy ( no matter what you call him ) is like a dog on a leash, used by God for his purpose.

[@markglidewell5468]

I'm pretty sure the people of Tyre outlasted the babylonians. King nebecudnezzer gave up and went home. It was Alexander the Great that finally conquered Tyre.

[@eswn1816]

Correct 💯... and it wasn't easy as Alexander had his army build a causeway to the fortified island!

[@grahamflowers]

God created everything in reverse from the end to the beginning then he turned on the clock regards Graham Flowers

[@Rkatek]

Isnt Genesis just the Hebrew version of the Sumerian creation story?

[@jimoyler1780]

Volume??????

[@pv4694]

they seem to be talking about nannar..known as Sin the moon god in Sumerian or hittite..not a sinfully act but personafied.

[@christincommon5496]

Michael Heiser wrote a book about all of this and how it ties together. He is very well versed in ancient languages and cultures. Sin in the Bible is not a god.

[@jpaul1599]

Believers know that the Word of God is truth, inerrant and that God does not lie. Once we accept the above, the following truths and the very first prophetic declaration of Genesis 1:2 about "the end of the first Earth at the end of time" are not questionable. Genesis 1:1 > In "the Beginning" God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:2 > [End] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. Isaiah 46:9-10 > ... I am God, and there is none like me, "Declaring the End from the Beginning", and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 2 Peter 3:10 > ... and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, "the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Revelation 21:1 > ... and the "First Earth" were passed away; Based on all of the above, If Scripture is interpreted correctly and honestly then there is absolutely no scope for anyone to use their imagination to propound the false narrative of a pre-Adamic race or civilization or any history before Day 1 of the 6 day creation week. Besides, to accept the preAdamic race etc would require believers to then think that not only did Lucifer (Satan, Devil ) outwit God by rebelling in Heaven leading to the first destruction of creation, he again outwit God by deceiving Eve in the garden etc. God created all beings (angels, man etc) with the foreknowledge that Lucifer would rebel (out of pride and envy), that Eve would be deceived through unbelief in HIS word (but belief in word of the serpent) and that would require HIS own intervention as the atonement to redeem " believers" with whom HE will dwell forever on the New Earth after the thousand year reign of Christ from Jerusalem. God made provision for redemption even before HE created any thing (before the foundation of the world) and that's why Scripture states in 1 Peter 1:18-21 > Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, ... But with the precious blood of Christ, ... Who verily was "foreordained before the foundation of the world", but was manifest in these last times for you, Who (referring to believers) by Him do believe in God, that raised Him up from the dead, and gave Him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. There is a reason why an omniscient God's created beings are given a free will - who of their own violation , based on the Word of God, can choose to believe in HIM or not believe, and to continue in that faith or walk away from faith. HE did not create preprogrammed robots unlike man (under Luciferian influence ) who now seek to merge man with machine and thus create robotic slaves who will only do the will of the master (Luci.... ). Shalom P.S. its sad that wise and well versed Bible believing people (e.g. preachers who have been influenced by theories emanating from some theological institutions which have formulated the " gap theory" to try and corrupt the inerrant Word of God) give credence to fables & myths or some preAdamic civilization etc which would only be possible if God was caught unawares by DNA modifications by fallen celestial beings and therefore God destroying the previous creation and somehow God then created Man on Earth but somehow celestial beings again proceeded to do something similar in the days of Enoch forcing God to destroy all flesh (saving just the 8 souls and those numbered creatures on the Ark) through the universal flood in the days of Noah. The truth scripturally is that God in HIS omniscience foreordained redemption through Jesus Christ before HE created the first Earth and Man. All other interpretations are just man's imagination working fantasies. There is no way man can put a date (through radiometric or other methods etc) about age of rocks, strata etc that preceded the universal flood in the days of Noah. The only timeline is based on the genealogy from Adam onwards ... approx 5948 years according to the Dead Sea Scrolls - watch Ken Johnson on KZbin - kzbin.info4hh_VTFWLEs?feature=share The truth is Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 are the bookends of history of the world that HE created. Genesis 1:3 onwards is HIS-STORY. Accept it in totality and don't cherry pick to create your own version of HIS-STORY.

[@fgbowen]

49:56 - "there's no evidence that he did anyway " - yes, and I would argue why does there Have to be?? Is it really our business right now?? no. But we Are asked to say and do things which build others up. Yes I know Adam's dead, but Adam really carries a big weight where man is concerned. Don't draw conclusions where there is no evidence to support those conclusions. Saying things which denigrate leaves the door open to all kinds of assumption and often then slander. I'm not meaning to be too overly harsh there, but... there it is.

[@surferdue60]

Many Christians are so ignorant about this very critical teaching! If you don’t understand that sin entered into Gods creation when Lucifer, now Satan and his fallen angels tried to overthrow God (Revelation 12). Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 the earth became “void “ tohu. What made it void, Lucifer rebelled! Thats why we are here on earth today! It’s a testing period, do you love God or Satan?

[@michaelszczys8316]

" Somewhere in time was Genesis 1 " Somewhere in timeless eternity was Genesis 1 which was the beginning of ' time '. Before Genesis 1 there was just the spirit realm. God may have had it all created in His mind, and created other spirit beings to witness, but Genesis 1 is where it was all set into motion, into real material matter. Before that there wasn't a single hydrogen atom, not a ' place ' to put the atom, not the ' laws and principals ' by which the hydrogen atom could exist. God put it all into motion, into real matter, in the order He chose. That is how the course of the earth traveling around the sun could exist before the sun was even ' created ' into real matter.

[@craigjones3846]

You’d think a believer would have more self control over eating 6000 calories a day or more.

[@HuHWhat-yi8cp]

@Craig🤣

[@jersmith1486]

the wages of sin is death. no sin, no death. no Adamic transgression, no sin.

[@stevenanderson9660]

You can’t have death before sin. Death is the result of sin. There was no death on the earth before Adam and Eve.

[@azergrinder]

So I'm a shepherds chapel student and I've known about this for a long time. So i`m just trying to the correct and chronological order of events. How we're the Angels here on Earth and and up in heaven with god at the same time? The only way it makes sense to me is if both Dimensions ran simultaneously. IS OURAUNOS USED IN 2ND PETER? SO IT CAN MEAN BOTH HEAVEN AND JUST PLAIN OLD SKY? SOMEBODY HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE.

[@aaroneaston4700]

Try Finis J. Dake materials! Excellent!!

[@The_earth_fairy-6]

Satan and a third of the Angel's fell to earth before God made Adam

[@MUSIC-MARY]

PREADAMITES are SONS OF GOD and MORNING STARS (JOB 38:4). NOT sub-human creatures!!!

[@konawolv]

So, do you believe the preadamites became angels, or do you think that pre-adamites were angels.

[@junglemaster2014]

Keep telling yourself that.

[@philipbuckley759]

the idea that the and, in Genesis indicates time, er.....dont think so...

[@bosse641]

Seems like that congregation has a knowledgeable and serious pastor. Good for them. Many are not so lucky. ....a lot of foolishness out there.

[@woozyrocketman1784]

not short of a feed, that's for sure.

[@marilynfisher6350]

John Grytbakk We need solid teachings like this in all churches. There is a lot of foolishness going on and zero teaching. You are on point.

[@castanheiro6170]

A lot of foolishness right here that you think is so special! Just another man trying to twist God's revelation and make it walk with Lucifer's distorted evolution theory! I'm not impressed at all! Just very sad!

[@Dazzwidd]

@@castanheiro6170 so you deny sooo many facts in so many scriptures just because you are persuaded a certain way already. With willing ignorance comes a price

[@sirius212ify]

The reason I'm inclined to believe in a pre-Adamite races is simple. The earth is a big ball of rock covered with water in the middle of nowhere when Genesis opens. Why would God make that?

[@paulsevers7740]

because He chose to, and He is WAY beyond your pathetic powers of reasoning to understand!

[@philipbuckley759]

the Hebrew is such as the past or future tense of the verb could be correct, depending on context...then if there were a pre adamic race, and they died, then there would be death, before the fall....and the Biblical account, of the fall would be false...

[@michaelmulvey247]

I almost change the channel because I miss identified you and thought you were Rick Warren, you have to admit...THERE JUST MIGHT BE A BIT OF A FAMILY RESEMBLANÇE GOIN ON"

[@lumartin1838]

I thought Adam committed the original sin and because of it was casr out of the garden and all inhabitants of the world from then on were affected.Women have pain in childbirth,men have to sweat to earn bread etc.And we all live to be only 100yrs or younger. Could there have been other "beings" in the first earth age, different than humans?

[@lxfj2128]

Lu Martin he did for modern humanity for humans pre Adamite civilisation we’re celestial beings (spiritual)

[@The_earth_fairy-6]

Satan and one third of the Angel's. Were before God created Adam

[@isaacnkosi548]

being in eden is a metaphor for living a voluptuous life..this is not talking about the literal eden where Adam and eve were placed by God..

[@mtuase]

08:55 because the light was made în verse 5 after the heaven and earth. Thats why was dark!! And another thing, how do you explain Ex. 20:11For în SIX DAYS the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and ALL THAT IS IN THEM, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.. I do not see a place where you place someone else before the SIX DAYS. The Bible is clear about the topic, we dont gain anythnig by making it complicated. BTW 15:30 Paul answers your question on how the sin enterd the world "Wherefore, as by one man (ADAM not others before him) sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12 KJV). PLEASE read the ENTIRE BIBLE, not just fragmets.

[@joshperry3494]

Gabi T. Science and archeology has discoveries that require we re evaluate how we understand creation and the worlds How do we explain Ex 20:11? We explain it in harmony with verses that reveal other world(s) and Gods ability to make this dispensation of earth void and make new heavens and earth How do you explain the prophecy of destruction and renovation of this world into a new world And deny the possibility of previous renovations and that this could be a renovation has it occurred to you that we might have existed before this life That this physical body doesn’t have the ability to recollect our previous existences That would explain how Christ is a sin of man and had to learn about His divinity in The Father Christ was born without ability or recollection of eternity just as we were So might we have existed before we became men on this renovated earth world The Bible says we are prisoners here That suggests we were transgressors that were sentenced here to self discover our spirit and die

[@JohnPalmer]

Gabi, when we talk about time, are we talking about the same linear and 4th dimensional principles of time we have come to understand in our limited understanding of our universe (in 3 dimensions) or are you talking about the possibly infinite time (to us) that Einstein talks about when one travels near the speed of light? God may have spoken these things into existence over a trillion years but if he wished to do such a thing slower, or faster than the speed of light then time as we know it is (in our perspective) not relative to the amount of time God took. I hope that makes sense to you. ;)

[@konawolv]

The 6 days, as we understand them, were clearly allegorical. The sun and the moon and the stars (which were created in order track time and give signs, etc) werent even created until the 4th "day". Our method of tracking time wasnt created until the 4th day. Yes, Paul says that through one man sin entered the world. And Paul was right. But, does that mean that Adam was the first sinner? no. Adam was given dominion over the garden. He was charged with keeping it. He was the responsible party. Sin ultimately came through him because he failed at his job of protector. He had the power to rebuke and say no and report back to God. But, instead he fell too. Its like a CEO being blamed for the failures of a company because it was under their rule. Maybe they werent the ones whom originally permeated the mistake, but because they didnt contain it and correct it, the company fails and its put on the CEO. Adam in this case, was the CEO of the Garden. The next thing is it states in scripture that God changes the earth like we change garments on our beds. Its possible that God made and recreated the world many times over. Clearly there was a beginning. Genesis 1:1. But, between genesis 1:1 and genesis 1:2 could be billions of years of history which literally means nothing to us.

[@mariafernandes9227]

A day with the Lord is a thousand years

[@rafaeljuniorsierra-9708]

The FALL OF MAN SIN IS "DISOBEDIENCE" GOING CONTRARY TO WHAT GOD SAYS. HE SAY, OR REVEALS WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG. ELABORATE: WHAT IS HEALTHY FOR YOUR HEART, MIND AND SOUL FOR A FRUITFUL LIFE ON EARTH. AND WHAT IS UNHEALTHY FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF YOUR LIFE ON EARTH. IT CANT GET ANY SIMPLER THAN THAT.

[@mr.johnson460]

Great explanation! But, the earth doesn't move. Not anywhere, in scripture.

[@eswn1816]

Negative inference fallacy... The Bible not saying something does not prove the truth of the opposite. Jesus didn't tell me not to become a cocaine addict, so it's ok? Silly argument.

[@mr.johnson460]

@@eswn1816 He also didn't tell you to post any comments here.

[@eswn1816]

@@mr.johnson460 Ha ha... You are making my point! 🙏

[@Light777-fs6rx]

why are people doing this? because of a kings' list? maybe the kings' list is wrong?

[@isaacnkosi548]

you are seemingly failing to understand that the prophecy in isaiah is written in signs and symbols? Also in revelation the same thing is happening..

[@donovanwint-im2ql]

What of, simply; and on the sixth day, GOD Created Man, and said it was very good " perfect ". Then after time, GOD formed/Made firstly Eth Adam and then Eve his partner and put them in the Garden to tend it, but with one caveat, do not eat fruit from a special tree, After time, Eve after being challenged by Lucifer did eat and gave to Adam and he also ate; after scolding Eve about disobeying GOD he himself rebelled against and disobeyed GOD'S command, first act of disobedience and rebellion against God by Humankind. All accomplished in the Garden of Eden, by people formed and made by GOD HIMSELF, TO COMPLETE HIS gift for mankind the ability of exercising the GIFT OF FREEWILL in all the AREAS of their lives. Lucifer was not a mistake made by GOD, Lucifer is an integral part/component of GOD'S ACT of giving Humanity the Gift of FREEWILL, Among the qualities that puts Humanity above the Angels. Good teaching, way different and closer to the reality than most of too many. Much Blessings.

[@markglidewell5468]

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

[@helenk6490]

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[@BrentLeVasseur]

Ok and continuing on this trajectory of thought, we might assume that since in Genesis 3 God curses the serpent to slither on it’s belly, that at a previous point in time, it might have walked like a human. So based on that, we could then speculate that maybe that pre-Adam world was populated by a sentient, bipedal, Reptilian race that was led by Lucifer. That would make for a great sci-fi novel or movie. It’s Land of the Lost, with the Sleestack and dinosaurs with Lucifer as king of that world. 😂

[@QuantumG432]

Even this guy has no idea where sin came from. Its amazing to me how very few people actually know the truth.

[@jafojafo5412]

You make a comment … but offer no alternative … such a brilliant statement … 🙄

[@sidklem6645]

Where is this guy's self control, if you know what I mean.

[@Josieb4008]

How could he miss an ENTIRE generation of mankind that was created before Adam and Eve in CHAPTER ONE! They made in the Gods image and likeness!

[@ryanhegseth8720]

Ok I’m going to go as far as I can with this video till I hear something really wrong or a lie.. let’s see… 4:30 not bad, comparatively. Most videos can’t get through the title.

[@anipaul9166]

Now the Annunaki Story sounds like the Pre Adamite story, gods came & missed with half human half animals. They lived for thousands of years before a flood came to destroy the Earth

[@grgustafson3777]

Genesis 6

[@otisarmyalso]

Gen1&Gen2 are not same failure2c is chaos

[@spikenomoon]

MAN BROUGHT DEATH INTO THE WORLD ?