The Prison Inside | Glenn Greenwald | EP 391

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with author, journalist, and political commentator Glenn Greenwald. They discuss the war on information: how social moralism, religious rhetoric, conceptual safety, and false compassion have been used and propagandized to reshape the western world into a good versus bad, red versus blue polarity. They also explore the human need for meta narratives, the basis of morality, and the case for God in a world that offers nihilism.
​​Glenn Greenwald is a journalist, author, and former constitutional law attorney. His original hit blog was a springboard into writing for Salon and the Guardian with a focus on national security issues. In 2013, he published the now iconic Snowden documents detailing global government surveillance by the U.S. and British governments. In 2019 Greenwald again broke leaked documents, this time for “Operation Car Wash,” which shone a spotlight on the corruption of the Brazilian judicial system. He would later detail his work in a series of books such as Securing Democracy: My Fight for Press Freedom and Justice in Brazil and No Place to Hide: Edward Snowden, the NSA, and the U.S. Surveillance State.
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(0:00) Coming Up
(1:04) Intro
(2:02) Rachel Maddow, the American Left
(5:15) Defending a Neo-Nazi
(8:41) The illusion on free speech when paying consequences
(16:45) Milo Yiannopoulos was propelled by censorship
(18:55) Taking down our RFK Jr. interview
(28:58) 911 and the clamp down of civil liberties
(32:48) Free speech is necessary for us to solve global problems
(36:45) George Orwell’s unpublished preface
(38:31) The internet was created with the spirit of Libertarianism
(43:23) The conceptualization of good and evil
(47:32) The danger of hubris in religion
(51:46) Douglas Murray, the need for ethics grounded in a metaphysical narrative
(56:34) Abraham, the manifestation of the animating spirit
(1:03:56) From atheist to believer, why Greenwald changed his mind
(1:08:27) Writing on politics, changing his stance
(1:17:00) Prohibitions against “wrong think” are silencing the majority opinion
(1:21:55) Edward Snowden, the real government behind the one we know
(1:25:58) Manufactured fear has allowed establishment control to expand
(1:29:59) The loss of the genuine left
(1:37:56) When you’re thinking is backed by every major news outlet and corporation, are you really a rebel?
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[@dd-qg9cv]

Good interview. Glenn is the best. One of the very few journalists you can rely on these days.

[@wineandvinyl5907]

Keep going Doc. - Canada is proud of you and needs you. So do the rest of the sane people living across the world

[@JLudd]

This is heavy

[@heldercunha4803]

From Portugal, I stand by this message as well.

[@hoodoosmusik]

🇨🇦❤JBP

[@magorzatakitka4266]

Absolutely agree ❤ I'm from Poland.

[@chickenmonger123]

Well I think many not sane people need his voice more than the sane. But really they’ve done a great job in making sure people of the wrong political color don’t listen to him, and merely disagree. Surely you can spot where he is wrong in his thinking. Why that thinking is wrong. But most can’t hold more than one perspective in their mind. And psychology is the comparison of perspective per se. Of course they cannot.

[@paulmuaddib3470]

This man has helped millions of men and women, and he has been vilified for it, it's absolutely disgraceful. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts Mr Peterson 🙏🏽

[@Nate-lz2iq]

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[@Huxya]

I was just sitting and waiting to die, no hope, no purpose, no desires... he saved my life. and I won't necessarily live longer because of this, probably not, but, by the grace of God, I LIVE.

[@Anonymous.Wisper]

​@@Huxyakeep on keeping on

[@369jwillow]

It’s an odd phenomenon: while listening, you feel that this is simply self-evidently true. It requires no rhetoric, just speaks to an essential truth. Thank you both for this inestimably important dialogue.

[@mayorofthenonsense]

Truth has its own quality. It has a certain ring to it which doesn’t require qualifying or defending. In a way it’s a bit like what they used to say about Pornography - you may not be able to accurately define it, but you’ll sure as hell know it when you see it!

[@Coldspace882]

JP says tell the truth and watch where it takes you

[@vinaSOAD]

also never switching subjects or not answering questions

[@misterparadise9542]

Wonderful talk. Greenwald is a smart man, a clear thinker, a person with integrity.

[@gdavidelliott]

Two brilliant orators discussing the critical issues of today. Thoroughly enjoyed this.

[@festivetosho7376]

Condolences on the loss of a close loved one, Glenn. I'm tearing up. 😢❤ May you find peace. And your spiritual path seems to mirror one I've found myself on... To my surprise.

[@choiceblade]

Citizen 4 broke my American identity...in two. I loved how Glenn received your style of questioning. You're great at this, Jordan. Thanks again!

[@Nate_Higgins]

This was great. As a person who feels politically homeless, this conversation matches how I feel about things more than anything I've heard in a while.

[@Anonymous.Wisper]

Peterson political party.. lol P.P party for short. Lol or PPP. P3 party

[@nicholastrice5834]

Funny. I found myself using g the exact same phrase- "politically homeless"- to describe myself a few weeks ago. I think it's a common sentiment these days, and increasing rapidly. Both sides have their points, sure, but both sides are basically authoritarian and polarized to the point of madness now. This is true both for the establishment as well as much of the constituencies on both sides. Dialogues like this are important. I'd like to see more of them. The time is more than ripe for sane people of all political persuasions to unite against this duopolistic, tyrannical lunacy.

[@TheTibbott]

Dear Dr Peterson, I'm so, so happy to see you looking so well. When you were enduring your darker days, I was a bit surprised at how often I thought of you and how I became quite demanding (belligerent, even) with God that you MUST NOT be lost to us. You're kinda momentous. You've been a gift to my thinking. Big thanks, big love. Gratitude!

[@bha1246]

Excellent.

[@user-ws5dw1ul7h]

I felt exactly the same ..so glad other people were praying for him as well .. we can’t afford to be without him …

[@ferniek5000]

Two of the most clear thinking and beneficial men on the internet. Thank you both for all you have contributed to the welfare of our society. Bless you both.

[@extremecoastalhiker]

Two of my favorite public intellectuals. Brilliant conversation.

[@user-fq9po1md5y]

Hello Mr. Peterson, I love your work

[@ykm257]

You love his incitement to genocide?

[@JurandirGouveia]

Glenn is great and he is one of the few journalists who understands how things work here in Brazil.

[@paulodossantos5380]

Also lied a lot when he was down here.

[@coracora161]

Really? He knows what north Americans want from Brazil. Not for the Brazilians need.

[@henriquecamboim]

Entende tanto que causou uma das maiores crises politicas do seculo ate agora. O molusco ta de volta, entre outros fatores, por causa dele.

[@Badvog]

Brilliant chat, and was so relieved at 1:37:00 Jordan finally hit on the “unholy alliance” between ideologues and corporate/state interests. This is the bit that should concern everybody. Forget left/right, this new unholy alliance is the battleground of our time and one that should monitored and challenged by every sane person in the world with any interest in freedom and peace.

[@ianl5882]

💯

[@djknox2]

I agree. However Glenn stating that it doesn't really matter whether the corporate world is cynically embracing the leftist identity politics, or whether corporate leaders now buy into, is something I would disagree with. I think it is very important to understand which of those two is the dominant driver. One can't find a solution until the problem is clearly understood.

[@Peter-en8lk]

@@jayal1992 you don't have to respect him, but to say he doesn't have courage is just downright stupid. especially coming from some faceless youtube user.

[@MrFro89]

I don't think it's that mysterious though. It's a new kind of Marxism, as JBP has repeatedly stated. They no longer divide society in rich vs poor, but between sexes, races, sexuality, etc. They're happy to join forces with corporations that will help them achieve more power, and the corporates are happy to promote an ideology that removes competition and helps them stay rich.

[@plantidentificationnewzeal9032]

one of the things i have found with this good vs. evil society is you will see people thinking they are more like heroes and being unwilling to acknowledge their relationship to the villain

[@chiefwilliamsunfiltered3874]

Dr. Peterson continues to blaze a much needed path. Keep up the great work good sir!!

[@bha1246]

Right on man

[@Richard_Paradise]

It's a good conversation. Jordan and his guests rarely disappoint. I loved the casual manner in which Jordan threw in the "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" remark then moved on : )

[@devangelism5810]

Jurassic Peter is the one who can't contend with the big boys.

[@janinemaldonado336]

troll@@devangelism5810

[@Kiw4765]

Such huge support for this man Glenn 🎉 taking on the giants!

[@eat-a-richard]

Damn Greenwald and Taibbi back to back? You're killin' it Jordan.

[@yolandaconn6081]

Glen Greenwald is one of the few journalists I trust. Great interview!

[@Geezerelli]

Trust? In 2023? In politics or science?😂

[@alexpacquola6883]

I'm from Brazil I don't trust him at all, cause I know him better than you.

[@carolspencer6915]

Good afternoon Jordan and Glenn Truly grateful for your continued sensemaking. Thankyou. 💜

[@williamdoucet4328]

Great conversation! Truly grateful for both of you

[@karloliver3937]

Is it me or are we living in neurotic times where this fear is allowed to cultivate and the only method to attempt to mitigate this chaos is control rather than accepting educated awareness of threat and the right to individual sovereignty, freedom to think, freedom to fall at our own assessment.

[@Rawdiswar]

Not just you Karl

[@nellymoo635]

I agree with your assessment, too.

[@DDeCicco]

Pretty spot-on. There is a prevailing sense among the "elites" that the average citizen lacks the necessary mental abilities to guide their own lives. Due to this assumed lack, they craft legislation that supposedly mitigates problems *for* the citizen, not dissimilar from an overbearing parent that would try to prevent their child from experiencing *any* harm by sheltering and spoiling them.

[@danielgreen8944]

Dear God...please bring Jordan and Alex Jones together for a podcast! 🎉

[@ykm257]

Alex will have to visit Jordan in prison unfortunately.

[@sonicleaves]

​​@@ykm257Prison, what? First time hearing anything about this. Aren't they just going for Peterson's license?

[@Mikemcjr]

Absolutely

[@Syncopia]

I don't think I'm their personalities mesh together very well.

[@guitaristdotcom]

Nah.

[@janelajunguiana]

What a dense comversation! I love it when you bring people with historic left winning positions! Thank you very much for the work you both do in favor of free speech and dialogue between different sides of the political spectum! We have more in common than we have differences and we are stronger together. Thank you so much!

[@advocate1563]

What a lovely man Greenwald is. Thank you.

[@user-kz1jc8ey8w]

I really enjoyed this conversation. It's brilliant how both of you touched on a wide range of topics that resonate with what America needs to hear. I grew up without religion, and I now believe that all religions have an underlying truth beneath the overarching divisions; there is so much knowledge. I think near-death experiences (NDEs) and noticing synchronicities in life have opened me up to spirituality.

[@randycliff4045]

I also enjoyed this conversation. Engagement at this level operates partially as fuel for thought, and partially as a cleanse of the ongoing clutter everyone is exposed to in the last 3yrs. I also grew up without any guidance in faith, being introduced well after being married. However I look back to my early years, surrounded by a Christian culture which offered protections many of these last two generations should long for. Today I believe in the importance (or possibly requirement) of a society to view the transcendent (God) as being paramount. This allows the so called leaders of society to admit their weaknesses and their need / hope in that higher authority, and thereby bring these leaders down a notch towards those being lead. Yet the societies of the West are surrendering their dependence on God (or outright trying to kill Him), leaving brain-dead leaders to falsely operate as if they are the ultimate authority, and we are witnessing these maniac tyrants / dictators undoing 200yrs of growth and prosperity, assassinating the hopes of our children and grandchildren, and with the applause of the loud and the selfish.

[@heavyweightlifted171]

I appreciate that they discussed airport tyranny. After flying across America earlier this year, I was so disgusted at basically ALL of the staff I encountered amidst my travels because of the disdain filter they all had over their eyes when viewing the general public. I've never been able to tolerate people who truly believe they are "above" other people like they somehow bleed a different color other than red. I'll be damned surprised if I ever fly again.

[@marcwood2741]

Two things. One is that this conversation ignored the fact that the airline industry was dead after 911. They were begging the government to do something to restore public trust in airline safety. If there is a scandal, it's that they didn't pay for it. There is no right to fly and it shouldn't be a government service. Two, the TSA actually does a very good job of training high school graduates on highly complex equipment and a labyrinth of ever-changing rules. What they are required to do is awkward and complicated and few consider how many difficult situations they are presented with from the crazy or the drunk or the demanding or the amazingly rude and entitled or the seriously disabled. The officers don't make the rules, but they are required to follow them by law. They are just as much stuck in the system as the traveling public. The TSA had to get up and running overnight and mass hire and mass train a bunch of poorly paid citizens to perform this difficult and unpleasant job. If you had to deal with a thousand travelers a day for 30K, you would very quickly find yourself being on guard that any encounter could be one of the dozens of rude, entitled, irrational, and/or combative interactions that you deal with every single day. I'm not saying that they shouldn't ideally suck it up and reset with a smile all day. I'm just saying that the TSA did the best possible job that anyone could reasonably expect with what it had to do and what it had to work with. I know there have been countless embarassing anecdotes for them, but that is also in the context of screening 100s of millions of passengers every year in a fairly timely fashion. Trust me when I tell you that you would be shocked at how many guns and potentially explosive devices they have intercepted. Did any of those people have bad intent? probably not. Is it all worth the cost? I don't think so. But it wasn't part of any conspiracy psyop and the government got a pretty good deal based upon what they ordered and what they paid for it. I'm sure that nobody enjoyed any of it in any way, but you should blame people's fear of flying and the fact that our government was willing to throw money at it. It literally couldn't have been any better without being much more wasteful.

[@GamingBaked]

@@marcwood2741Dude no one is reading all of that. You seem like u were having a point until I just skipped it , not trying to read a novel lol Gotta sum this stuff up some times

[@labtumcm]

​@@GamingBakedi had the exact same though after seeing his comment haha

[@danielremel3417]

If you’re not willing to take the time and read an objective response that’s over 140 characters, you’re kinda missing the whole point of listening to these types of videos and discussions.

[@sarasamson5922]

Right, I don't hear this discussed much these days. I've always felt like I was being treated like a criminal, guilty until proven innocent. In 2013, Newark Airport, I must have flinched while being X-Ray screened, then flinched again when I was being pat down as punishment for failing my X-ray. So I was taken into another room and made to strip down in front of 2 women. I lost it so suddenly I scared myself and them, and they halted the strip search. Upon leaving I yelled to them: 'Do we all feel SAFER now?' How many terrorists snuck through the back door while I was being strip-searched for flinching at a pat-down? I submitted to the FBI-like 'trusted traveler' program process so that I'd never have to have that possibility again. I feel like I've bought a freedom I shouldn't've had to.

[@kylec1411]

Thank you Jordan. You are so appreciated. You do so much and genuinely try to help and my respect for you and all youre doing just keeps growing. Youre absolutely right. You make this and im sure all other canadian 's especially proud.

[@sama1852]

Glenn has recently criticised Peterson, along with other commentators who have critiqued cancel culture, for being in support of censorship of speech supporting Palestinian rights and cause.

[@ykm257]

How can you be proud of him after his incitement to genocide?

[@PatrickFerryCoach]

Glenn is amazing! Very grateful for his reporting!

[@alex-internetlubber]

I love Glenn, he's so important, he's done such great work

[@lupin4444]

thank you Jordan !! and love to Glenn. fantastic discussion

[@tylerbarrett6652]

We have lost a true base line comparison in contemporary society. Nearly every modern issue is illuminated by citing how things used to be 50 or 100 years ago - and yet the real base line exists prior to the industrial revolution. The homestead was everything prior to the industrial revolution... it was your grocery store, your dairy, your laboratory, your locale to seek adventure, your bakery/kitchen, your EVERYTHING... and the FAMILY ran it in the best way they could figure out. When you left your homestead - you entered "the public"... where it was SO important to be polite and courteous - "polite" in the sense that you were entering the world politic (same root word) and courteous in the sense that you learned to exhibit the manners/behavior you would use in court (again... same root word). Our proclivity to kick our offspring "out of the nest" so to speak should not necessarily mean that we exile them from the homestead. Certainly it would be better for everyone to learn to forbear each other so that multi-generational households were the norm and yet everyone in such a household was accorded the respect and dignity they deserved. Nowadays our homesteads are simply where we sleep... and eat, but sometimes not even that. Everyone leaves the homestead... to daycare, to school, to college, to work, to some sort of activity that is no longer on the homestead. So when we seek a baseline for comparison, I think it is incredibly important that we look back a little further than the last 50 or 100 years.

[@nicholastrice5834]

Interesting idea. I agree that the degradation of family solidarity/closeness/integrity over the last hundred years and its slow assimilation by a corporate government- now reaching an apex in ubiquitous and invasive mass surveillance- is a major root of our current national malaise. Strength, like charity, begins at home, and the atomization of society and the near- abolition of any barrier between the public and the private has sapped our foundations as a democratic republic.

[@KingofKingsWorshipCenter]

Two brilliant critical thinkers warning us about the serious current threats to free speech and the rise of authoritarian censorship - thank you. I pray we listen and act.

[@amoff2009]

I wasn’t expecting this to ever be an invterview I saw on this page . Always been a big fan of glen! Great interview

[@petsol]

Glenn Greenwald is the the statue of integrity. What he says should be taught in schools.

[@nicoledickens2366]

23:15 wrong guys! It started with feminists like Meghan Murphy. Like most revolutions, our current fight started with the demonization of women who dared to speak. Everyone hates feminists so no one cared.

[@nicoledickens2366]

@@PSYCHOTROLLSLAYER only if it's a really fun troll. Battle not with trolls, lest ye become a troll, and if you gaze into the their regenerative eyes, their regenerative eyes gaze also into you.

[@user-ex4qx4md5f]

KZbin is full of fake bots trying to put vague positive statements and comments that appear to appeal to both those that disagree with the content and agree with the content as a way of data gathering how to persuade people en masse bots are getting smarter however they are still just bots and they are worthless to people. Commenting appears to have become a data gathering for those seeking power to steal our opinions and use our points of view against us rather than a place where we can communicate together and express ourselves. There is no point in commenting anymore or smart phones or smart anything, it’s all just spying on us and using our info against us.

[@aliciamelman9863]

Agreed.

[@udarpavarota396]

🤦‍♂️

[@janetajanemcneil1531]

Thank God for brave, wisdom warriors like you two - Jordan and Glenn - in these times of totalitarian uproars. We are with you - keep on going!! Not enough words to expreas my gratitude 🙏 ✨️ ❤️

[@noobboy81]

Glenn Greenwald is one of my favorite journalists. Great interview! Would be great to have him back for another one!

[@titsmcgee8885]

I didn’t know you lost your partner Glenn. Broke my heart to hear that. You composed yourself so well after saying that. I could hear your sadness in your moment of strength.

[@jasonbaling6696]

This is probably one of the best episodes.

[@hurrifanc.3434]

Absolutely fantastic decision to have the great and honorable Glen Greenwald on the podcast!! Dear Jordan, I highly doubt that you'll see this comment but it would be absolutely amazing if you would consider having immortal technique on your podcast I think it would be an absolutely riveting conversation!!!

[@charlesmartel6103]

Jordan is very welcome in the Netherlands.👍

[@lumpyfishgravy]

Fantastic interview - one of the best. I greatly appreciate that Glenn brought evidence to the table for every argument. We could being doing this kind of conversation more often!

[@xxxx-cy4rs]

great to have this conversation. thank you so much.

[@krystynapoblocka758]

Dear prof Jordan, we are admiring you! Please keep our hopes high for better times in this world despite of awful things that are happening in Middle East right now. We as polish young students have experienced the the visit to Auschwitz Birkenau (Oświęcim). After seeing this museum we could not sleep and eat for two or three weeks. We were so shocked! We were born after II WW and it was moment to really learn about holocaust! At that time in Poland the government was deeply communistic.

[@orenalbertmeisel3127]

Very cool that you did an episode with Glenn. This is why I stay subscribed

[@SomeGuy486]

Great interview. Greenwald is a great guest.

[@KaleOrton]

Jordan you are GOLD. We love you and thank you. ❤ from 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@ykm257]

A true Scot would be disgusted by this spineless man.

[@Anonymous.Wisper]

In Canada you might have your back account frozen for such sentiments... 😢😛😛😜

[@kanisohana]

I’ve never heard of this guy but I really like what he has to say. I’m going to try to subscribe to any channels he’s on.

[@user-qm3qt2fk7v]

Hope you're watching Glenn these days

[@richo8475]

This may be Jordan Peterson’s best podcast yet. Good show.

[@djl8710]

My heart goes out to Glenn, seeing him without his wedding ring on (as a widower myself) makes me so sad.

[@dragomaster9238]

Man you got no clue how much of a help u are man

[@emcarnahan]

Looking forward to this one ☺️

[@lynnelatham599]

I love listening to both of the very intelligent men. Thank you!

[@alexgoldstein22391]

This is one of the best conversations I’ve heard.

[@zolyx5395]

I just hope that one day I can talk to Dr. Peterson

[@rossco12]

Thank you Mr Peterson ❤

[@manguy2000]

They're trying to build a prison They're trying to build a prison For you and me to live in Another prison system...for you and me.

[@Anonymous.Wisper]

Can't you see, they don't want you to be free!!? Open your eyes to the lies that travel through the skies to your eyes, what does it mean ? As seen on the t.v screen

[@Anonymous.Wisper]

What have your heard what do you deserve? To judge or to be judged... better to hug or be hugged.

[@user-kp8ps9zz4r]

OMG Jordan Peterson and Glenn Greenwald; Love it.

[@soganox]

Great discussion! Thank you Sir.

[@moroniholm87]

Jordan Peterson is the best doctor of psychology

[@ulietudie]

I love this conversation ❤️👍

[@LilaSilk]

Thank you gentlemen for this interesting conversation. Mr Greenwald is very articulate, which is a joy to listen to. All the best, sir.

[@chrispetersen6660]

I'm loving the clean shaven JP! Looking spiffy Jordan!

[@CarolineParkeSongwriter]

I've been self censoring for years... I realized it a few years ago. So the question beckons: Am I more afraid of the fall out when I speak - or the way the world might end up if I do Not speak the truth. 💖

[@curtisvalle5141]

Be judicious but my experience is more what makes me feel stronger vs weaker. Speak the Truth, Sister

[@jakehouser1975]

JORDAN IS ON FIRE WITH THESE GUESTS Looking sharp and healthy as ever too

[@cjs8332]

I'm so sorry to hear you lost your husband. That actually brought me to tears. I hope you continue to seek, Glenn.

[@shahlaahy4372]

Thankyou so much for laying out malaise of our political, social times!

[@HollySu59]

Appreciate you two so much! Please provide caption!

[@sqsigue]

Great Episode!!! Loved it 😍

[@richardclark5112]

Such a powerful thing to witness Jordan waking up :)

[@Anonymous.Wisper]

Lol one of the first to wake up

[@ofthetree]

ha ha

[@RILEYLEIFSON_UTAH]

Where have you been since 2016?? I understand the period of clawing ones way out from the depths of a justifiable pharmacological dependency...i.e; reestablishing and recalibrating your new baseline "zero" afterwards. Is that what you mean when you say: "waking up"?

[@Anonymous.Wisper]

@@RILEYLEIFSON_UTAH guy may or may not be a bit lol

[@richardclark5112]

I think then you and I may have a slightly different meaning of waking up… @@RILEYLEIFSON_UTAH

[@TimBitts649]

Prison, my lord? Hamlet: Denmark's a prison. Rosencrantz: Then is the world one. Hamlet: A goodly one, in which there are many confines, wards, and dungeons, Denmark being one o' th' worst. Rosencrantz: We think not so, my lord. Hamlet: Why then 'tis none to you; for there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. To me it is a prison.

[@lschmidt2405]

Keep at it Jordan, cheers from New Zealand 😊

[@user-ti4gj3kl5y]

Agree with you from Australia

[@ykm257]

Keep at what? Incitement to genocide?

[@motsnrub]

Inspiring conversation, well done.

[@Tobitobiify]

Wow, this was a really great dialog!

[@TerribleP]

I attended one of Dr. Peterson's talks recently in Belfast. His speech was phenomenal, as expected, however I think that there's another aspect of the experience that should be considered heavily: Just the act of him being there inspired hope. The stadium was absolutely packed, traffic along key roads at a standstill, just because of how many people showed up. It should be noted that the talk took place late on Sunday night, so it was at an inconvenient time for most people and yet still, thousands came. If the media is to be believed Jordan is mired in controversy and should be avoided, the same media and our government here tries to make us believe that those who have common sense or at least an open mind are the minority, but that evening, at least for me, proved that that narrative (as with a great deal of things you'll hear from such sources) is a lie. Seeing so many people willing to spend time and money to sit through a talk by someone so vilified by governments and major media institutions, because they wanted to see and judge the content for themselves and think independently was such an uplifting experience, and the feeling of respect within the audience was palpable. (Except for those few lads at the back who'd taken full advantage of the bar areas in situ of course). As someone who is entirely unqualified to give one, my message is this: Do not give in to despair, there are many good people still left, and they hope you know that you're welcome among them.

[@amieribrahim6718]

Thank you dr. Peterson for such discussions. Kindly consider using an iPad instead of a mobile phone to access information you need during the podcasts.

[@krystynapoblocka758]

Jordan, you are too polite. The government actions in Canada are absolutely unacceptable. I am just worried about my grandkids.

[@Anonymous.Wisper]

... But the feds have no enforcement

[@lukegriffiths4333]

I can’t help but notice they’ve green walled Greenwald’s studio

[@eyeseewho77]

Sickest Freudian slip ever at 2:10

[@mbz5152]

that would be bush on Ukraine and Iraq but this one is interesting too

[@melissaradaker1128]

Wow. Best in years. Thank you both

[@s.c.boileaukeen]

Yes, due process, due diligence, and give honour where honour is due. 👌🙌✍️🙌💌🤞🤲🙏🤲

[@nicholasroman8071]

This interview was well worth the time to listen to. Alot of food for thought in this interaction between Dr. Peterson and Attorney Greenwalt.

[@finflwr]

Fantastic discussion. Thank you both for bringing forth nuance, intelligence and peaceful discourse.

[@goddessraven2128]

Saw him live in Australia his amazing❤️

[@5thdimension625]

I’m surprised they let him in to speak

[@williamdavis9562]

Was this before or after he went on twitter cheering on ethnic cleansing and concentration camps?

[@billmilligan7272]

Wish you were coming to Hungary! I'm there now and would happily see you again -- did a meet and greet with you in Phoenix a few years ago and it's a highlight of my life.

[@t.j.4704]

Two of my fav people. Thank you guys.

[@Lalallalu]

What a great interview! Balanced turn taking amid the wide range of topics, candid self revelation on the part of Mr Greenwald. But - best of all - phenomenal intelligence coupled with authenticity from these two intellectual giants ! Loved EVERY minute of it. 🙏🙏🙏

[@desireegreen653]

I'm really interested in RFK. I didn't know he is a former heroin addict and came through that and gives pretty level headed thinking. I found his twitter. Interesting candidate.

[@umiluv]

@@tishie42- Trump is the only anti-war candidate.

[@meowpurrrrr]

@@tishie42 They will definitely try, but they will do the same thing to anyone who opposes them. Now that Trump knows what he is dealing with, I think he will be able to fight more effectively. He needs to surround himself with the right people though.

[@marcognudi664]

As an Atheist I resonate both with Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson

[@homesliceslices69]

Agnostic theist. Faith man. I don't conform to most ideas of major religions. All rewriting of truth for their own narrative.

[@lynnamasshardy5224]

Great conversation thankyou

[@JMFritz08]

Dr. Peterson, thanks for all that you do. Perhaps the silver lining to be extracted from the unfortunate turn in your career is that your wisdom is now heard by those of us who didnt have the privilege to attend university. Just a thought. Best wishes to you and yours Dr. P. 🍻

[@quacxks100]

Good is easy, it is understandable, easily figured out, straight forward. Evil is tricky, Evil does not want to be known, it lies, it points its finger. It is not in the best interest of Evil to be evil, but to brainwash and demoralize you with grand utopic illusions and make you stray from critical thought.

[@tatianavinograd7591]

Well said!

[@iansmith8783]

Great conversation! Hearing Glen talk about deep questions of existence is not something we often have an opportunity to experience.

[@domingodeanda233]

Both of you always kick ass.

[@garyluciani1082]

Great interview.

[@mp7161]

Great interview, thank you!

[@ChildofGod98765]

Please pray for me. That’s all I need. As a christian I still trust in Jesus and keep faith even though I’m constantly faced with hardships. I believe in God's promise trusting in his faithfulness, and relying on him. But at times it can be difficult. Especially as a single mother and having two children with autism.I’m overwhelmed. My husband passed away unexpectedly, I’m all alone. Lord give me strength as I struggle to support my children. But even as I struggle to pay rent and I struggle to buy groceries for my kids. I KEEP FAITH in you LORD JESUS. I’m so overwhelmed and discouraged. I’m so tired Lord! Please keep me encouraged because I’m tried LORD!

[@julieredmond5192]

I am praying for you right now, Tiff.

[@AT-nw6cr]

@@AFringedGentian no she is a real person, you can see her and her sons in her videos. She tries to get people in Peterson’s audience to send her money all the time for years now with these kinds of comments. For all I know her need is very real and if so I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing to ask for help from strangers if you need it. I’d have to know more about what her income through this strategy is to pass a judgement I think.

[@grampyper2111]

When these two titans decide to talk, I'm gonna listen. Truly love both of these great men. This is going to better than the Superbowl