The PROBLEM with 5G mmW...

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In this video, Linus heads to NYC to try out the reliability of millimeter wave 5G mobile connections. Spoiler alert, it sucks.
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[@stewardappiagyei6982]

T-Mobile: So we heard you like to drop things...

[@whizadree]

can you hear me at all

[@rdkonevrd9898]

linus: sold. T-Mobile: but we di.... linus: sold.

[@FleaOnMyWiener]

@@whizadree yeah I can hear you

[@MaksKCS]

@@FleaOnMyWiener Liar

[@nahuelmiranda6110]

I knew there be something wrong, Linus wearing boots.

[@doctorlovera]

T mobile wanted to show how easy it is to DROP a millimeter wave 5G connection. They knew LINUS was their man. 1:42

[@user-ke3mk4cl4t]

LinusDropsTips

[@msinfo32]

Linus has always dropped things and never will stop

[@arketsjenkins5016]

@@user-ke3mk4cl4t LinusDropsThis

[@renelmk]

@@catboy3471 bruh what where tf have you seen that

[@kolozac]

@@catboy3471 Millimeter is a US-only thing. Most countries are using sub-6G frequency. Not easily dropped.

[@arnavjade903]

Linus roaming on the streets searching 5g signals like it were a Pokémon

[@brykit1972]

Gotta Drop 'Em All.

[@sonicfon]

Gotta reset 'Em All.

[@chemedeus]

Linus: 5G is faster than home internet connection Me: 3G is faster than my home internet connection

[@AlexNZL]

I know the feeling, Have gigabit fibre to the gate but the apartment complex wont let it get installed. so stuck with 8mbit

[@thelazarous]

@@AlexNZL My apartment is the same way, so I don't even have home internet and just use it through my phone's unlimited plan

[@tommylyeah]

*F*

[@AlexNZL]

@@thelazarous I would do that but my so called unlimited plan throttles to 1mbit if I use more than 80GB

[@thelazarous]

@@AlexNZL Mine is supposed to throttle past 50GB but I regularly go well above 200GB a month

[@Robin_chong02]

5g is more unstable than my life

[@harithizzuddin]

Well our life is more stable than this 5G thing

[@coxienormus4228]

I beg to differ

[@popeservant8156]

Not mine

[@auroraborisalis3363]

OOF

[@allenqueen]

if you are watching a youtube video on how 5g sucks, you are more stable than 5g

[@basnettd98]

I used to joke about opening the window to let the cell service in. Never thought I'd have to open the window to let the internet in 😂

[@LilacMonarch]

I know this is probably a joke, but something fully transparent like a window won't stop 5G signal

[@basnettd98]

@@LilacMonarch It was a joke but I concur. I guess low e glass could block the signal but regular glass shouldn't.

[@cameronwebster6866]

EarthBoundNess / LilacMonarch except it can, they put very slight mirroring on exterior windows, to increase thermal insulation, but it can also block radio waves

[@zwz.zdenek]

Sadly, that is already true in some rural settlements. Glass does worsen signal ever so slightly and putting the device outside may do the trick. Using a USB extension cord for the 3G USB receiver taped to window is a classic.

[@brownshit1]

Create a problem, sell the solution. Marketing 101.

[@salazarian]

RIGHT omg

[@IraQNid]

So what happens when the problem and solution are the same thing?

[@gianluca3131]

Sorry how is that creating a problem? That's just how waves work

[@salazarian]

@@gianluca3131 I think his point was mobile companies in general probably know 5G isn't really a viable option, yet they pushed to upgrade all of their systems. T-Mobile will still sell mmw 5G but also sell the workaround to it's limited range.

[@JayMaverick]

Your local church thanks for the donations.

[@T-Mobile]

You’re blocking our signal, Linus😉

[@mysteryplayer12]

T-Mobile 13 likes, 8 months?

[@silotx]

He is a master at dropping things , including signals.

[@Shubham_Jain001]

I have wifi

[@RejectedSpiritX]

It;’s far too easy to block your signal, t immobile. All you have to do is go into a building. Or anywhere else. Your 4g doesn’t travel and your 5G is super fake

[@Shubham_Jain001]

@vlad zaic then it will not be splash and water proof

[@TechDove]

The problem with 5G: *it covers one city block but they're selling phones to use it already* *Credits roll*

[@kaptain1477]

TechDove and they are selling them at higher price.

[@thatplane3865]

@@kaptain1477 because it needs a separate modem chip.

[@volrath__]

well yeah they are selling 5g phones already, because coverage will not stay so localized... 4G was the same, within a year of launch most major cities had wide coverage...

[@goldust3212]

Well.... Huawei solved that problem and they are banned in America, lol

[@Blaze6108]

Solution to the problem according to T-Mobile: use low-band high-distance high-penetration radio waves in open countryside, then use milliwave transmission, which is blocked by as little as a crowd of people, in dense urban areas which are well-known for being clear of obstruction like buildings... and not constantly filled with... large... crowds. No, wait. That doesn't sound right... I still hold that milliwave 5G is DoA except for hyper-specific applications as a glorified wifi hotspot. You'll only get mmW 5G in small, clear places like stadiums, except that unlike wifi you still have to pay for it with your ISP and you still need to buy a compatible phone. And even so the backbone capacity will never be enough to give 800 Mbps to all those people. Also lol "it will even work indoors".

[@haztec.]

Is 5G better? Well yes, but actually no...

[@teriinekoyama1369]

It's all about implementation... or so T-Mo is saying.

[@joshanonline]

You just need lots of towers in densely populated areas. 5G range is like 300m max away from tower in very clear day while 4G can work at miles and even during rain. There is a danger of exposition with so many towers needed though. Millimeter Wave spectrum does sits between microwave and infrared waves. And those wave do interact with molecules, but luckily, 5G waves don't have much energy. But some experiment say close to towers increase chances of cancer in rats. It hasn't been tested long in humans. We are going to be experiments~ Well, it should be fine as long as they don't make intense infrared for more data or we'll cook near a tower lol.

[@TheSjuris]

Infinity Dragon the wireless carriers are going to have to have consumers install 5g routers in their homes to help provide coverage for everyone else. Especially in urban environments where people live in apartments.

[@smnstrm]

Depends on frequencies used. Lte over 5ghz will drop out too

[@Dnoxl]

It is, if it is(there at all)

[@al-houmamal-shalchi6077]

I used to be 5G engineer, I specifically worked on mmWave 28 GHz. Just for clarification's sake mmWave does not equal 5G. mmWave is new spectrum to the cellular market that will be deployed under 5G standards. 5G is defined as the 5th generation of mobile technology that offers low latency and higher throughput regardless of the band (frequency) that it is operating on. Higher frequencies offer greater throughput with shorter distances and greater attenuation (signal degradation) which is why the mmWave is so hit or miss in the video. Lower frequencies, like the ones we are used to, do not attenuate as much when obstructions like foliage and buildings are in its path but their speeds aren't as promising as the high band mmWave. mmWave reflects or defracts off of nearly any object in its path. The general idea T-mobile is attempting to promote is that with low band and eventual mid-band channels available to their network (once the Sprint merger goes through) is that T-Mobile's 5G signal won't drop out the way the other carrier's signal did in the video (which I believe was Verizon) because they aren't planning on putting all their 5G eggs in the mmWave basket. Linus, when T-mobile reached out to you, did they offer you to test their recently deployed 600 MHz 5G? It was deployed about a week after you shot this video. It would have been nice to have a T-Mobile 5G phone and the other carrier's phone to compare/contrast results...

[@chiranjibisahoo5408]

am getting 1gbps with 3500mhz band in indian village

[@maxpercer7119]

Update. Linus gets killed by taxi, by walking in street looking for 5G reception.

[@RejectedSpiritX]

And since he is using a t-immobile phone, he;s looking for any kind of reception, no matter what G he can find. It won’t be real 5G since Trash Immobile is fake

[@ej_tech]

The problem with 5G: Does faster speeds matter with data caps?

[@andrewc1036]

Wouldn't data caps just increase with bandwidth?

[@cosbusta]

@@andrewc1036 Depends on where you're from I guess.

[@jakegarrett8109]

a c no, you just pay more... That’s the capitalist motto

[@dekaaizer2550]

That's only a real problem in the USA

[@jakegarrett8109]

Scott M I think you mistake reality with what an ideal system would be. The rich are protected and served when they should be homeless and lose everything (GM for example), the government bails them out. True free economy means you do something stupid and you’re business goes under. The government says along the lines of “to stimulate the economy we’ll give money to the super rich” (which also means they can keep their prices at unaffordable levels at this time), and that might buy a yacht but not distribute the wealth like it clearly would giving to the poor helping everyone along the chain. Instead of providing job opportunities for the homeless (like Theodore Roosevelt did with the public works projects, offering not great jobs but liveable ones to veterans and such, roads and bridges were built, infrastructure repaired, highways allowing more trade and economic growth and potential, dams allowing more efficient and faster shipping paving the way for the US to become a global economic giant). Instead we have politicians giving billions to the billionaires that cheat employees. The government is quite blatantly corrupt and it’s not called bribery or extortion it’s called “political funding” or “lobbyists” (with a checkbook). Our government is not true capitalism, it’s more oppressively forced than that, where if you make billions like Amazon you may pay less in taxes than I do... Are you saying this system is not keeping the rich wealthy and ensuring this wealth distribution?

[@jasonscst]

“And all of your 5G is gone.” “Please step aside for actual customers”

[@smashenYT]

South Paaaaark

[@DoggoWillink]

Please drop your phone in the bin for actual T Mobile customers with 5G.

[@KingKadem]

"But I am! I'm paying good money for it!" "Then where's your 5G?"

[@pokiblue5870]

Tons of ppl will gather near of those 5g towers 😂 i wish they put 5 g tower at walmart. ill definetely move to a van and stay there forever with 5g connection :)

[@circuit10]

@@catboy3471 Apple is really overpriced

[@unknowncommonman]

" With Great Speed Comes Great Reliability Issues " !!!

[@hectorzayas5488]

Cringe comment

[@unknowncommonman]

@@hectorzayas5488 I don't think so .

[@NanoMine]

Why tf is Linus wearing shoes? Is everything ok?

[@prehnmarc]

I wouldn't walk without Shoes in NY... The Streets are so dirty. Uuhhggg... Chewing Gum on my naked feet... Disgusting.

[@docferringer]

That is the agreed-upon distress signal for LTT being held hostage by an advertiser.

[@pure6450]

Is your icon L?

[@zac8670]

Great joke. But fo real I consider burning my shoes after walking around NYC for a day.

[@Nintony58]

The exact opposite of the old "can you hear me now?" commercials.

[@antdx316]

Do you have 5G now?

[@Jdudhhsuxbsksj]

How far we’ve come

[@NickCharles]

"Maybe if I move out from the sidewalk a bit" The Next Morning: "A local man was struck and killed by a passing car the other day. Witnesses claim he was trying to find a 5G network signal, and tried to step into the road just as a large truck was passing by. The man's family is suing Verizon, claiming they should know better than to purposely design a signal that has a dead zone on the sidewalks. More at 11".

[@mello6948]

Looks like truck-kun is always hard at work.

[@200odd300]

He's in a better place now, it's called isekai

[@danieltanuwijaya7675]

I can imagine this as a legit prologue for an isekai anime.

[@joshuascholar3220]

Cue "Day in the Life" music.

[@dogthatlooksattaxevaders6325]

Linus introduces technology in a fantasy world

[@techworldex]

ISP: Installs 5G Tower People: Complain about radiation, headache, fever, and blame Coronavirus on 5G ISP: Dude, wait another couple weeks before filming a complaint, we are not done yet with the power supply

[@hartfordct2925]

5G is safe according to FCC.

[@techworldex]

@@hartfordct2925 Yes lol

[@hartfordct2925]

@N K5G is safe

[@kazi1]

@@hartfordct2925 yes

[@leyzic9272]

A lightbulb probably produces more radiation than a 5G tower

[@debarghabiswas6858]

From south park To braynt park "And its gone"

[@JakeThe_Dog]

And we Canadians here be like. "We don't even have unlimited data cap"

[@dsong00]

Well I mean yes but also no. Not defending our telecom industry though, they still suck

[@kushiro6302]

In my country the unlimited data is only in 3g

[@reportteemo4690]

laughs in unlimited 4g + phonecalls and txt for 20E month

[@alexandrubese]

Laughs in unlimited 4g+ and 80gb 5G for 5Euro/M and Gigabit Home Connection for 8.5 Euro/M, yea we have good deals in Romania

[@raimo5091]

Unlimited data cap? You know, there would be no cap if it's unlimited.

[@nateds7326]

2:30 the blue collar guy is starring into my soul

[@bigsmoke9935]

Linus in New York: 5G be droppin like testbenches round here

[@StephenHogan]

I'm never aware of street brand names and advertising until they're blurred out.

[@jojobobbubble5688]

5G resembles my dating habits... Blocked by... EVERYTHING!

[@tisjester]

Have to make the joke sorry... 5G resembles my dating habits... Blocked by... just turning around.

[@jojobobbubble5688]

Blocked by: Colton walking down the street... Thanks Colton.

[@Danny-wv8ec]

“Aaand it’s gone” The Stan Marsh experience

[@JustACowSP]

"heres how tmobile is better" *proceeds to explain how every mobile carrier ever works*

[@Jorge86295]

More like: "heres how tmobile 5g is better" **Proceeds to show it's not going to be real 5g**

[@FoxyllAkora]

@@Jorge86295 Just like 4G LTE is also not real 4G. Nothing in the mobile world actually lives up to what it is said to be, unfortunately

[@tobimai4843]

more like: proceeds to explain how it is written in the 5G-Standard

[@tobimai4843]

@@FoxyllAkora Wrong, 4G is 4G. But 4G just means 4th generation (so all IP-based), it does not necessarily indicate speed.

[@RejectedSpiritX]

Moira Prime Keep repeating their corporate talk points because they pay you. T Immobile is fake 5G period

[@magiic3871]

“ANNND It’s gone” LMFAO I love the South Park clip.

[@Jimmy_Jones]

4G: Why do we need you? 5G: Because.

[@hitaishibarai9062]

I wanna be the very best

[@FixtheBeat]

large scale autonomous driving and other IOT devices that need an infrastructure to support it.

[@permacultureecuador2925]

​@@FixtheBeat lol what is someone going to buy a sim card and data-plan for all of their IOT devices? xD and then place them in perfect line-of-sight to cell towers? Lets be real here.. They are doing this to increase declining phone sales. Consumers have slowed down buying phones and now they are creating excuses for consumers to buy new tech they don't want or need. Consumers want affordable unlimited data plans, not 1GBps w/ 10GB limit xD Expand fiber optics across USA, support affordable unlimited data plans Upgrade existing LTE to LTE-Advanced (easily capable of 1GBps...) and guess what.. All existing 4G phones can benefit from LTE-Advanced... No need for a consumer to buy a new phone ;) oh wait no that's not what we want...

[@FixtheBeat]

@@permacultureecuador2925 I think your anger is misrepresented. First off I'm not trying to debate anyone on why companies are building 5g towers. Obviously it's something companies can advertise as a buzzword to say 'we have the best 5g network'. The point of any for profit company is to make money and marketing helps makes sales. I am simply pointing out there are use cases for this technology outside of loading linus tech tips videos faster.

[@Jimmy_Jones]

@@FixtheBeat Why do you need anything faster than 4G whilst out and about?

[@moai3392]

And Australia where we have 100mbs on the fastest home internet

[@nathansolari]

They dont even offer 100mbs anymore

[@StuPV]

Uhh no, you can get muuuuch faster than that. Just generally not in metro areas though

[@nathansolari]

Stuart Vanlint well in SA i havent seen any home internet plans that have offered over 100. Might be different in other states.

[@databanks]

Oh you can get faster - IF you're a politician or a millionaire. The rest of us? "Fuck you, plebs. 50 for city, 25 for rural if you're lucky. And don't forget the absurdly small data caps on those satellite users that we disabled all other internet options for!"

[@MotoCat91]

And now we have Telstra telling us that NBN is crap and 5G will replace it Yeah, maybe because they helped convince the government to make it crap And I don't care if we're near the top in the world for best mobile speeds, it will never compare to pure fibre. It's physically impossible.

[@StetsonDoggett]

I'd love to check out 5G for myself! I also think the real question is, when will 5G become available for smaller prepaid carriers? Metro by T-Mobile was lucky to get 5G. I'm not so sure when others will get it though...

[@wheaties2912]

Tiny wavelength dudes: "we made it faster than wifi" Linus: "and it's gone" *surprised Pikachu face*

[@ahmedsabti5302]

So basically 5g is like the banker from South Park: aaand it's gone

[@diaz7435]

i was thinking that to

[@raffelpaffle4974]

my 1st thought, oh hello mister verizon

[@raffelpaffle4974]

and its gone

[@nowonmetube]

Actually the joke was originally from Simpsons where Homer showed Flanders a live without regrets, where he bet $500 in roulette and lost it "aaaand it's gone"

[@CheapBastard1988]

Without 4G it'll be: "There is no internet to check why there's no internet!"

[@Jackahz]

Woman at 3:19 was like: Nope

[@FleaOnMyWiener]

She was angry because she couldn't find a 5G signal

[@KiwiHavok777]

👿

[@diynevala]

4:56 No chewing allowed! I was wondering why, until I realized it is the name of that shop. :D

[@jackf7529]

T Mobile Said: Lets Make An ad out of this

[@anonymous2012s]

6:15 man on the right like that little girl is a bag for him

[@trowhammerdespoilerofgalax2423]

Hillarious

[@polski_dezerter]

you: talks about how 5g is better than 4g me: only has h+

[@jsebean]

you: talks about h+ me: only has edge

[@patrickconti4297]

Well, technically, hspa+ is part of the 4g standard

[@zuggg655]

@@jsebean i got gdsm

[@rkan2]

HSPA+ is only 4G in the states, where as usually only 3.9G e.g. LTE is actually called 4G elsewhere.

[@qlus]

GPRS ftw

[@RAF-710]

Wow this is crazy! Can't wait for your TMobile 5G test video

[@kurtbarker1369]

This is one of my favourite videos, it's really funny and informative.

[@winconfig]

Memes that apply here: "Were sorry." - South Park "Aaaand it's gone." - South Park " No 5G for you!" - Seinfeld

[@x511100x]

3:33 my parents a day after adopting me

[@mikediezel0923]

Lmao

[@AndrewPross]

You were literally right outside my job! I so wish I knew you were in NYC at the time! I will have to buy you lunch next time you are in town!

[@MiksteR_RdY]

4:12 I died laughing on that one. Genius

[@BloatedBumbleBee]

Should be called "LOS5" or "Line of sight 5" Literally needs line of sight to work

[@romandepowski8315]

nope

[@ZNemerald]

Yes

[@duhwayneee]

It would be a LOS5 to the company to name it like that

[@nathannfriend]

5:52 Ohhhh so this video is aimed at the FCC for the Sprint merger approval

[@Squirvel]

Break up Ma Bell again

[@seth_deegan]

Makes this seem like propaganda.

[@ExarchGaming]

maybe from t-mobile's end, that doesn't benefit linus very much, nor would linus being a canadian have any influence on an american regulatory committee.

[@yewtewb3628]

@@seth_deegan Because it IS propaganda.

[@PM-vd1sq]

Any chance you can mention the fact that the 5G hardware is a battlefield interrogation system and can be (and is being) used as a weapon?

[@cytrex1o1]

Damn no wonder US banned Huawei

[@angrybirder9983]

No, because it's not true. It's not a weapon in any way.

5G doesn‘t cause any health effects. However, if the 5G equipment comes from Huawei, it shouldn’t be trusted (but same goes for 2G, 3G and 4G equipment).

[@LuigisProductReviews]

0:26 Me walking in a new city looking for a place to eat in google maps

[@hleet]

If it was Austin's review it would be like : "Look, it works so well everywhere !!! " - sponsored by the Antenna 5G itself lol

[@TerkyDoc]

That guy is so annoying

[@unlucky5442]

@@TerkyDoc ikr

[@HughMungoose]

Shows you how insecure advertisers are when you have to blur out a freakin umbrella.

[@RoraighPrice]

they tend to air on the side of caution. just in case it says "Bank of America ~ Winter Village" www.google.co.uk/maps/@40.7541167,-73.9837655,3a,22.1y,330.37h,94.27t/data=!3m11!1e1!3m9!1sAF1QipOFUB3-yCF6GQvFdKUL5yWDY9azDTLwa-BsEk-x!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOFUB3-yCF6GQvFdKUL5yWDY9azDTLwa-BsEk-x%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya94.66792-ro-0-fo100!7i9728!8i4106!9m2!1b1!2i28

[@ummjonny6696]

Psychlone wait when?

[@HughMungoose]

@@ummjonny6696 At about 4:25.

[@ummjonny6696]

Psychlone Thanks! I think it legally has to be censored because another company’s logo cannot be included in the sponsored portion. This happened to iJustine, when she censored an Apple logo on her phone case when talking about the sponsor in the sponsored portion.

[@HughMungoose]

@@RoraighPrice Does Bank of America have anything to do with phone service providers? Pretty soon they'll be filming in front of a brick wall but blur out the bricks because they might inadvertently be promoting bricks in a video about keyboards.

[@LunarProxy123]

0:21 this is linus reaction to seeing the outside world for the first time.

[@zwz.zdenek]

Linus is a cool guy. You can't pass him off as a nerdy loser.

[@Charsept]

1:32 wow that looks a lot like Bryant Park. 2:02 holy shit, that IS Bryant Park!

[@Jdudhhsuxbsksj]

4:06 should’ve fired Colton for blocking his 5g speeds

[@deadasparagus]

5:57 so this whole video is just to try to convince the FCC it's a good thing to lower competition in the US cell carrier market?

[@DeathAtItsFinest1]

To be honest, if anything it increases competition. If you actually look at the studies, Sprint is dying regardless and the two at the top of the food chain are Verizon and AT&T who charge a shitload and bundle you in with DirectTV/Comcast. When T-Mobile takes over Sprint, they're coverage will be better than AT&T and they'll almost have the same consumer base. As well as significantly lower prices than both AT&T and Verizon, as per the buyout agreement which talks about T-Mobile being unable to raise their prices for years post buyout

[@AndrewCislak]

Nicholas Underwood I agree

[@ThatLaloBoy]

LOL bold of you to assume that Sprint is even a competitor to the other 3. On paper, yes. In practice, there is only very small number of markets where that is even remotely true. Sprint in a lot of cases ends up being almost as expensive as Verizon without the quality to justify that price.

[@SlipperyTeeth]

We should just make them utilities. I mean, they already are, so we should just treat them as such.

[@TheAlienGangster]

When is the new album coming out?

[@THEPLANETEARTH]

What I've noticed over the couple of years of having millimeter wave access is the phone have to be cool to connect so it doesn't overheat

[@mishrasarthak]

I'm so early that 2g is still a thing in my area

[@Saadramzan315]

Bruh you broke

[@joseevb04]

In my country we don't even have 4g in all the states

[@Saadramzan315]

What country is it

[@fajrdn]

Not surprising since you live in shithole

[@EpicBunty]

@@Saadramzan315 I think he's from India, but in India we have 4g pretty much everywhere and when that fails it's 3g so I'm pretty sure he's joking since I've never seen 2g in YEARS. (I'm also Indian)

[@Stanton_High]

So most of 5g is actually just going to be 4g... Well. Consider the hype DOA.

[@matsv201]

Well... sort of. Running on same frequency and bandwidth as LTE. But use new encoding and freq5 sharing. Its probably more will use the samefreqcency as 3g. Say some 800Mhz for rural coverage. Some 2.1Ghz for sure urban coverage (will probably give you some 100Mbit or so). Then the new 6Ghz for general city coverage (will probably yield about 250Mbit). Then the mm wave for inner city and direct link coverage.

[@TheAlienGangster]

It’s not as exciting as they think. It’s still just a wireless standard. Imagine how expensive it will still be with the amount of towers they need to make for it.

[@matsv201]

@@TheAlienGangster that why they developed dumb slave towers.

[@somedude2492]

Hype? I couldn't give less of a fuck about gigabit internet, it's way more speed than what I need, for way more money than what I'm willing to pay. I don't need super fast latency, I'm watching KZbin videos and sending whatsapps. It's just the thing that the 0.1% of people need, and probably they won't even get coverage.

[@projectnerdvana2820]

@@TheAlienGangster exactly i find this to be so stupid, like why not do true "Long Term Evolution" on LTE?

[@spyder001]

Good video. One of the few, that demonstrate obstacle connections.

[@thomasphillips885]

It's nice getting those speeds when nobody else at all is using 5g

[@typeer]

That oof at the end when it's an ad for the Sprint merger..

[@kaibaCorpHQ]

Lmao, guessing they're trying to gain some public approval with this video. As a TMobile customer, I have no sympathy for it; I'm with the state attorneys.

[@ericwheelhouse4371]

The Sprint merger is good. At&t and Verizon suck and literally charge you for being a customer. It's not brain wash, it literally a fact. They charge you to be able to use their service and then charge you for the data plan.

[@kaibaCorpHQ]

@@ericwheelhouse4371 It's terrible. You don't think this merger helps Verizon and att? You don't think they'll also benefit by not having another competitor in the market? TMobile is already taking chunks out of them, they're doing fine without sprints assets. If you recall in 2011 when ATT tried to buy TMobile, TMobile was arguing the same doom and gloom shit Sprint is...then look how that turned out when they blocked the merger. If these people running Sprint are running the company into the ground, then why don't they sell to literally anyone other than att, Verizon or TMobile.... literally anyone else could buy it and it would be fine for the consumer, but they want to consolidate with another company in their market. Hell sell it to dish network, because you're telling me dish network is going to be a Sprint like competitor in 3 years with only what amounts to TracFone and a bunch of 10 year old hoarded spectrum?...no, sell Sprint to dish network, then they can be a contender day 1.

[@typeer]

@@ericwheelhouse4371 further consolidation is bad, mmkay?

[@yumri4]

​@@typeer well when you only have 2 options for cellular service yes it is bad. I don't want my cellular carrier choice to be like my cable choice. I have 2 options AT&T or the other guy for cable. For cellular service right now there is Verizon, T-mobile, Sprint, AT&T and US cellular for USA cellular networks. Now tell me with 4 companies being the only 4 for a country the size of the USA is reducing the amount of them good or bad for competition? In my mind we should have more than 4 for all of them but this is the USA and it is a pain to even start a cellular business. You have businesses that have agreements with one or more of the 4 big ones to have their cellular service be a thing. They are still dependent on one of those 4. It will be bad for capitalism. For capitalism to work you need competition and competition has been dieing in the USA lately. Having 1 less competitor will mean even less competition.

[@DEIMPERATIVE]

IT's like in the old times, when H+ was the same

[@kyb3709]

Don't forget about GPRS 😂

[@spoonikle]

KYB - yea but that was because there was like 5 GPRS antennas per city.

[@craiz6668]

*coughs in german* It's still the best I can get over here with 300k/bit at max and an average of 30k/bit. My Telecom/T-Mobile connection is the best kind of mobile internet that you can buy in Germany. I supposedly have 4G LTE and that stuff but I only get like H+

@@craiz6668, is it better now after the old 3G towers got new equipment for 4G and 5G? I personally have noticed 4G/5G coverage and speeds got way better (but T-Mobile also has put some Single RAN antennas on existing B20 base stations).

[@craiz6668]

@ it has gotten better in the areas with coverage. However there are still a lot of dead spots where you have absolutely no connection and these spots sadly make up a majority of land here

[@TheJunky228]

"And it's gone!" is going to be the next "Can you hear me now?"

[@SpectreWraith]

5:22 Linus: Now it's time to answer the question that surely everyone has on their mind right now... Everyone: Is Linus still wearing socks and sandals?

[@zwz.zdenek]

I know I am.

[@JetFan-qp6fr]

When new tech is worse than old...

[@matsv201]

Every generation ever

[@teriinekoyama1369]

@@matsv201 Until it matures.

[@bohomazdesign725]

lol thats such a dumb comment. Its like saying that highspeed trains are a bad technology, bcoz those cant run at V-max, bcoz the infrastructure is bad. Just fix the infrastructure, make it hightech too

[@Repz98]

For now? Yes, in the future no. Telenor here in Norway give you 150mbps up and down, ping 30. Loss 0. There is 4 different ways the 5G will be delivered to your phone. They start by installing the very fast one, but then you have to go to the place that have it. That 5G gives you super high speed but it sucks when you have a ballon or a bird in the way. Then you have the low 5G, it will be just like 4G, then medium, and high. It will be delivered just like 4G is delivered I believe. So low maybe give you 150mbps when fully installed over the whole country, its only then they will they will start setup the more expensive and faster one, that will be the medium, and the high one will be last. So it can maybe 3 years before 5G full speed is out. Telia in Norway will have the high speed done by 2023, thats pretty long, but they will open for the low 5G in 2020.

[@matsv201]

@@Repz98 I get 14 ms ping on lte here in Sweden. 30 ms sound kind of bad to me. Of cause 150 Mbit is a lot more. I only get about 40

[@Terreos]

0:08 WTF?! He's wearing shoes?!?!?!

[@jon8706]

Tmobile: we're going to give you a whole lotta money to shit on 5g, but you gon wear shoes.

[@ViperStudiosAndy]

Wait..... That's illegal!

[@jojobobbubble5688]

Dood, you dont walk around major cities on the street without shoes, great way to stub a toe on a needle

[@AgneDei]

I've been watching this channel for many years and this is the first time that You Linus got used so badly by a big corporation. What t-mobile showed In that presentation was basically the idea that 3G (UMTS) was promissing to offer even before 3gpp was thinking about really high througput (like 20 years ago), meaning that it's common knowledge in telecom business. What t-mobile didn't tell you is that 4G deployed on the same frequency band below mmWave spectrum (so like 700-5500MHz) will have at least 98% of the throughput that 5G will have on that same band. Why? Well that's because 4G radio encoding is already way above 90% frequency usage efficiency (assuming that 100% efficiency would be the the limit posed by the Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem, and also excluding the guard band without which the networks wouldn't really work with neighboring bands). At the same time 5G radio encoding pushed this around 2% higher with new encoding techniques but in real life it's impossible to notice. Ok, so what's the difference between 4G and 5G? Well the most important one is that a so called "carrier" in 4G can be at maximum 20MHz wide. To use more bandwidth to communicate with a phone 4G has to use "carrier aggregation", and it can do that usually with 3x20MHz carriers, and the 3gpp standard allows for 5x20MHz carrier aggregation. When a telecom operator buys frequency, there is no way for a single operator to have bandwidth wider than that available at any location in the world basically. At least that was the case until mmWave bands were developed. What they allowed is to allocate bandwidth as wide as hudreds of MHz to a single telecom operator, and that's the only reason that 5G was developed. The difference is that 5G allows for carriers wider than 20MHz, to be specific it allows carriers 100MHz wide, and even wider in the future, and the 3gpp standard of 5g also supports carrier aggregation, and that's why 5G is so cool. The thing that t-mobile didn't tell you is that switching between mmWave 5G when available with huge throughput and LTE using some lower frequency with less bandwidth is the exactly same experience that you'll get with the t-mobile solution. The only difference is that in t-mobile deployment you will see the 5G icon more often, even though it will work with the same throughput as LTE + mmWave 5G can in the same scenario. So this video is basically blatant lies based on lack of technical knowledge (I sincerely hope that you didn't know Linus). One more important thing that t-mobile isn't telling is that enabling good 5G coverage using the lower frequency bands comes at a cost. That cost is that they are limiting the bandwidth available to their own LTE deployments, so in order to make the tech nerds happy with good 5G throughput and coverage they are piecing out their LTE deployment effectively making their LTE network slower. The only other way to do it is by getting more bandwidth, but that's all already sold and allocated to the telecom providers (which is why they were talking about the sprint merger, but still, getting decent 5G bandwidth in 2000-3000MHz frequencies is not possible without making the LTE deployment bottle necked by allocating it a much narrower bandwidth than it previously got. I understand that after buying all that equipment and realizing that it's not going to get any faster than LTE without more bandwidth the boffins at T-Mobile must've been really pissed, and that's most likely why they figured out this misinformation campaign to discredit other operators that actually invested in 5G where it has any benefits. I really hope that you either retract this misinforming video, collect some actual information on the subject, and prepare a rectification video, because I believe that this channel used to have a high standard of ethics in their content, but this video crushes that belief.

[@Thearkillian]

ok boomer

[@vangildermichael1767]

Even when, you said what I already thought. It still didn't get into my head quite black and white. But, it is good to hear that the story the Linus was talking was all just a story. And even though. The way I heard what you are saying. The artificial benefits that are currently showing. They will disappear after the network is congested with some customers. Right now it is easy to show awesome performance. Because we are only at 10% of capacity.

I think you forgot the more widespread use of 256QAM and 4x4 MiMo. I have a 5G device and on n1 with 20 MHz ch bw I reached around 430 Mbps down (525 Mbps should be possible there), the theoretical max. throughout of LTE B1 with 4x4 MiMo and 256QAM should be about 391 Mbps. The spectral efficiency of 5G should be _upto_ 50% higher, but of course it’s just theoretically so.

[@AgneDei]

@ 256qam and 4x4 mimo is not widespread at all. Also you're comparing different coding and mimo configurations, not the LTE vs 5G radio protocols. 5G in an apples to apples comparison (same coding and mimo) is only 2-3% more efficient, no more. This is because LTE is already reaching around 95% peak theoretical bandwidth data throughput. Different coding and mimo configurations can also be used with LTE setups. Getting higher throughput from the same 20MHz band requires higher SNR, and the more complex coding is what takes advantage of that, not 5G - those are two different things. Mimo on the other hand is meant to increase the SNR, but it's effectiveness is usually very limited. The disadvantage is that higher SNR is available only at really short distance, meaning that it's not really useful besides wifi, as for mobile this will work only at line of sight benchmarking, which is not the general usecase for mobile.

[@michaelkilgore4671]

Nice T-Mobile commercial. Very impressed with that explanation of how they are overcoming that LOS hurdle.

[@Juhl]

0:53 doing cocaine in public

[@pijen]

3:30 a very rare sighting of Linus actually wearing shoes

[@dosilva10]

you have it right at the start as well

[@dannulik]

T-Mobile: We wan't you to try how easy it is to DROP a 5G. Linus: DROPS a 5G phone

[@IAmHungry1]

From that south park episode: and it's gone you should hidden the competitor's name on 5:00

[@spoonikle]

I Am Hungry - the whole point was to poke holes in Verizons marketing

[@sleepyancient6655]

Actually, if the results and information are real, and not skewed, they're fine.

[@ScammerRevolts]

When apple adds 5g to the iPhone Me: Dang the 5g connection just keeps dropping. Apple: Well stop standing in the way and hold it right!

[@antdx316]

Why do people need 5G anyway? If you are going to need big files, just stay in a 5G area to load up then 4G would just be fine but what is most important is proper GPS lock and a working compass.

[@quantum_vortex_]

@@antdx316 Less congestion, more reliable AKA less fluctuating speeds.

I know this, but is doesn’t have to do with Apple but rather with the bad 5G coverage (while the X55 modem has some issues with NSA 5G).

[@ronch550]

I'm fine with 4G.

[@bruhmomento4197]

I'm fine with 3g, any data plan that I can afford has such low speeds anyways

[@fintan.]

4G is enough, 5g is marketing bs. 4G towers are continuously being built at an exponentially rising rate so there’s no reason to go get a new ionising radiating cancer box it’s at 60ghz not 5 that’s just trying to kill you

[@ronch550]

@@fintan. they're pushing 5G because it's good for business. People will have new reasons to buy new phones, carriers will buy new equipment and be able to charge higher fees, car makers will have new features to brag about.. so yeah, it's *THEM* who need 5G, not us.

[@munkkis4n]

@@ronch550 I think the main point is low latency and better performance with large crowds. But yes real 5G is going to be just in big cities and only when there is enough 5G hotspots.

[@axonoxa]

@@fintan. well everyone is radiating and has cancer

[@mocfunkyy]

I love T-Mobile, I did a speed test recently on 4G LTE and got 290 down and 60 up

[@Kcducttaper1]

Super excited to see what this does to home internet providers!

[@ezechieldzimeyor4541]

The "aaand it's gone" reminded me of that one South Park episode 🤣

[@Gamefreak924]

Imagine actually wanting 5G

[@AlbanianGoose]

Its because its tmobile i was in boston wit at&t 5g didnt even lose connection in a parking garage

[@illgottengains1314]

Gamefreak924 How else are you gonna stream HD movies while downloading 2 more walking down the street?

[@matsv201]

Mm wave is not suppose to be used in phones. Rather in cars, buses, laptops and so on. The idea is that a bus uses mm wave the repeats it to the passenger, so they can share 1Gbit

[@dm00121]

@@matsv201 Working Wi-Fi in buses? Is that some western joke I'm too Balkan to understand?

[@okeybuckeye524]

@@matsv201 where does the bus get it's backbone from?

[@jarsky]

Those outdoor scenes in the first few minutes he's talking to the camera looks like bluescreen lol

[@BrokenNeck92]

And here I'm just wondering if he stopped in to say hi to Louis and check out his new store

[@alim8042]

The problem of 5g *Sponsored by t mobile* That’s make scene

[@gaweringo]

That makes sense?

[@radix4801]

Somebody didn't watch the video before commenting...

[@MrPaksh]

@@gaweringo T-Mobile earned a certain reputation in germany.

[@nicomuller3125]

@@MrPaksh t-mobile comes from Germany

[@franky-161]

@@MrPaksh yeah.. a pretty bad reputation :)

[@CallardAndBowser]

I'm more concerned about your Ping being at 37 ms instead of the advertised 2 - 12 ms. That sucks ! This is the result of having 5G equipment on the towers but they are hooked up to a slow cable backbone instead of fiber optic backbone. 5G will not produce 1 - 12 ms until all the towers are interconnected with fiber optic lines all across the U.S.

[@user-bf5sc8pn8x]

2ms ping to the guy standing next to you

[@Polarbear605]

It’s because it’s still relying on the LTE core network right now. That goes for all of the carriers in the US.

[@Garloth1]

5G has multiple waves of deployment and low latency is in a future one

[@Dracossaint]

So never

They seemed to have fixed the issues, at least in Europe (on T-Mobile Netherlands and Telekom’s 5G network). It’s however still non-standalone.

[@7Write4This9Heart7]

lol. This was hilarious! Some of the looks you were getting were really funny, too! Haha! (Also, I'm so used to watching Louis Rossmann's videos that it didn't even dawn on me that YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN NEW YORK, YOU LIVE IN CANADA until, like, a fourth of the way through the vid! lol!)

[@QuantumPlayz]

Lmao T-Mobile added clips of Linus to their advertisement!!!

[@SilentStorm03]

Finally a video where Linus shows up without saying "lttstore.com"

[@gambello1195]

This is like an ad on shopping channels.

[@youfail1274]

Bet people cant wait to hit their monthly data cap in less than 5 minutes

[@MrTeddy12397]

What's a datacap?

[@HJGJHHJ22]

Like you pay 25£ for a 30gb to use on from your sim card

[@mattwinward3168]

5:18 "wer'don' bud." Said Linus in the middle of New York City.

[@DanDanUwU]

Funny enough, Linus was actually in front of my job site. 😭

[@awerelia]

@Jacob Morales He didn't have his Linus Detector with him obviously.

[@gaurangkhatavkar968]

@@awerelia 😂😂

[@jaskiratsingh5162]

Mkbhd: so i've been using this for two decades

[@Ben.N]

The competitor is Spectrum, if you were wondering.

[@Datalanche]

This reminds me of my first cell phone in college circa 2003. Would work fine in the dorm, but right outside the building I was dead in the water.

[@cadeneuwirth6563]

"Aaaaaand it's gone." Reminds me of the bank in South Park.

[@Gandi2000]

Yes we need more WiFi everywhere so I can come out of my room...

[@kumakuma3335]

Then China will be a good place to live

[@Gandi2000]

@@kumakuma3335 nope, been there done that, China is a no no...

[@realcartoongirl]

@@kumakuma3335 but you no the googles in China

[@kumakuma3335]

@@realcartoongirl well you dont really need google in china

[@realcartoongirl]

@@kumakuma3335 but cant speak chinese

[@MegaMech]

Actually higher freq. penetrate objects better. The issue is the range drops quicker. Radios techs install UHF in factories or hotels with concrete or brick due to better reception that VHF.

[@mistamaog]

I'm wondering what happens if we want faster speeds and just keep upping the frequency. How would we achieve that and not drop service from having any solid item in the vicinity?

[@heimvar]

"Nationwide coverage" LOL

[@realcartoongirl]

they should get 4g working right first

[@jakew3]

Yeah that is hilarious

[@dhkatz_]

There is nation wide 5G. Unfortunately there are two types of 5G, the standard which is a slightly improved 4G LTE, and 5G mmW which was displayed here. You can guess which is the less common.

[@heimvar]

@@dhkatz_ is joke. I don't care because neither are coming to where I live.

[@jakew3]

@@dhkatz_ you missed the point, the idea that T-Mobile has Nationwide anything is laughable

[@amateurwizard]

The woman walking up at 3:19 was like "I'm walkin' eeere"

[@Xoron]

Will you be revisiting asnd testing what you just praised at the end without showing after it has deployed?

[@davidson3680]

good video man very informational