The Problem With Disney Fans

[@OffhandDisney]

Like this comment to bring back Club Cool

[@rocks5232]

What’s popping?

[@SUMMONER917]

Dallon will you make a video where you try all the sodas at Club Cool before it closes?

[@nswitch5251]

I didn’t know it was closing until I saw this so that sucks, but yeah there’ll probably something cool in its place but I still wish it’d reopen somewhere else

[@stefanfilipovits21]

You’re fair and even-handed. Good vid! I’m going for my birthday in October and I can’t wait.

[@noahfolse9282]

would you say starwars fans have turned to the dark side

[@tateevans1767]

I think that this problem extends to a lot of Fandom today. Many people seem to have forgotten how to enjoy things in the moment. Just because something is new and different doesn't mean it is bad. Give something a chance before you decide that it is worse than something you already have.

[@TECfan1]

Absolutely. I've enjoyed many new things Disney and other studios have brought out that many fans seems to hate. I think people forgot how to just enjoy things. Now that's not to say there is crap that exists, but a lot of entertainment today is some of the best made.

[@vidlink]

In the the context of Epcot changing, yes you are right but there's a much bigger problem going on with IP holders and fandoms. There is behavior and actions on both sides that are causing problems.

[@mikehauncho4874]

The real toxicity in Star Wars fandom is KK, Rian Johnson, and their hoard of inhuman SJWs. Star Wars Land is a major disappointment, thus far. There are more Star Wars rides in Tomorrowland (Star Tours/Hyperspace Mountain) than Star Wars Land. The one ride they did complete, Smugglers Run, is a BAD version of Star Tours... which is a bad ride to begin with. I've been on Smugglers Run 3 times, once for each position... they all stink (Engineer is a train wreck). You can still get on Smugglers Run almost any day in about 30 minutes, for a brand-new ride in a brand-new land... SAD! The food is terrible, stay to California Adventures. The bar is pathetic with drink that only technically have alcohol, total joke and a waste of time/money. Again, stay in California Adventures and get great food and drinks. Disneyland has very limited space, so to see so much wasted on one bad ride... If the next ride/movie are not home-runs this will be a major blemish on Disney for a long time.

[@blahhblahhblahhpoo]

@@mikehauncho4874 Nah man Star Wars fandom never have anything good to say about Star Wars. People hated the prequels when it came out, now they hate the sequels and Galaxy's Edge.

[@VegasGoldenJediKnight]

people are just dicks ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i haven't been to disney world in like 25 years and never been to disneyland. and because of star wars, i'm now going to both within 5 months of each other.

[@itsken5130]

Another great video. And then there is this.... "Disneyland will never be completed. It will continue to grow as long as there is imagination left in the world." ~Walt Disney

[@theo6298]

It’s Ken 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@mynameiskrysta]

But what if there’s terrible movie sequels to advertise, is that what imagination is?

[@JoseLHernandezJ]

I think people take that out of context to their argument since Walt Disney also said “Disneyland is a work of love. We didn’t go into Disneyland just with the idea of making money.” How much are they overcharging thing nowadays?

[@deremotive11]

"Oh, and the most imaginative thing we can do is fill every park with our characters and rides that are based off our characters."

[@mattkugelman4369]

Krista I think Walt knew as well their will always be missteps through progress it’s unexpected true but it can happen

[@katiepelzel1047]

The intro made me SO UNCOMFORTABLE

[@Zvwry]

Katie Pelzel same

[@rileyanne9547]

Katie Pelzel same. I restarted the video to make sure I heard it right😂

[@mrstarwars2447]

Why?

[@jakephillips6077]

Katie Pelzel I thought it was the Mandela effect until he started speaking! 😂

[@katiepelzel1047]

@@jakephillips6077 same! I was very confused

[@jmn327]

Simple problem for me: I'm really sad to see a Disney that refuses to produce new attractions or park shows that aren't based on IPs. Honestly, so many of my biggest issues revolve around that: I'm tired of Bob Chapek's "more Disney" meaning "more characters" when "more Disney" used to mean a style, an aesthetic, a standard for quality, etc., but we're now at a point where a domestic park hasn't created or announced a new attraction based on a non-IP idea since Expedition Everest. I'll be honest, much as I was ok with the aesthetic overall of EPCOT I ended up feeling bummed out over Illuminations being replaced by, well...a "let's play the same Disney songs you hear in every other park, just slightly different" show in HarmoniUS. It's just not very compelling to me. Secondary issue: the rise of shorter rides at the expense of traditional Disney experiences, some of which ranged from 10-15 minutes (traditional dark rides) to multi-hour attractions like classic EPCOT pavilions. Great Movie Ride being replaced by a short attraction that uses a fraction of the show building space is disheartening on that front. Added benefit, the larger experiences were often people-eaters, constant loaders or otherwise well equipped for big crowds.

[@B0nd07]

Yes, this. Well put.

[@princedonovaughn1182]

The newest Star Warz ride is going to literally be the longest ride an any Disney park. I also wouldn't call an Epcot Pavillion a multi hour attraction considering you can do the same in any land and if that's the case they're adding more stuff to these pavilions to make it an even larger attraction, meaning longer time spent there.

[@jmn327]

@@princedonovaughn1182 How long is it going to be? I'm sure it'll be a solid E ticket, I'm not doubting that at all, but is it going to break 10 minutes? And no, a lot of the original pavilions were designed to be lengthy experiences; Journey Into Imagination, for example, was designed to integrate the ride --> Image Works --> Magic Eye Theater progression, which often could lead to two hours spent in just that pavilion alone, with design choices, aesthetics, and theming designed to make for a cohesive experience under one roof. It was an incredible accomplishment; while we're going to thankfully be getting some updates to EPCOT soon it's highly unlikely we're getting anything in that vein.

[@gissneric]

Blame Harry Potter. That started the whole IP thing. Universal hit it big time with Potter and now Disney is doing the same. Well, let's see when Chapek and Iger steps down if the Eisner leader type will come back.

[@billyjobobb]

Exactly. Epcot does not need to be changed, it needs to be improved. We don’t need a magic kingdom clone, we have a park that complements magic kingdom well and it should stay that way. Each park should have its own identity. On the path Disney is going they will be park 1, park 2, park 3 and park 4 instead of magic kingdom, animal kingdom, studios and Epcot

[@cren151]

The trouble here is Bob Iger saying the theme parks need more "Disney" as if what already exists isn't already Disney. Everything Disney makes is "Disney". I understand IP's have always been around for example the Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse or 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, but they were their own rides and the majority of attractions were original. I'm fine with IP's, but to shoehorn them into existing rides and every corner of Epcot is ridiculous. Then he goes on to quote Walt about Epcot and how it "will never cease to be a living blueprint of the future" when we know that Walt had a completely different vision for Epcot. He wanted to create an actual, functioning city to test out futuristic stuff. What in the world does Guardians of The Galaxy have to do with the future and how society progresses? You cannot just quote Walt for what you want to interpret what he he meant, in order to justify inserting IP's everywhere. He wasn't looking to build a theme park. I'm sorry but I just have to disagree with you when you say Disney knows what they are doing. Every individual or company is bound to do not so smart things. You can't say Disney knows what they are doing because they're Disney and everything will be fine; criticism is necessary. And I know some people will disagree just for the sake of disagreeing. But many people like myself genuinely care about the parks and want to voice their genuine concern. One of my concerns is the Disney is overly focused on expansion rather than fixing buildings and existing rides. There are several noticeable holes right before the last lift hill on Splash Mountain, half the bees on Splash don't work, some lights on Space Mountain don't work, Jack Sparrow's mouth articulation is frozen, there is an obviously exposed speaker above the treasure mound scene in Pirates, Indiana Jones has so many defunct effects like the rotating chamber or the blasts of air in the skeleton scene, the second floor of star wars launch bay is unusable because the roof is collapsing, half of the submarines are not functioning, some of the trains are down, I could go on. It's just that these malfunctions have persisted for a very long time and all these new expansions will begin to not look so good next to all these deteriorating rides/structures. People will begin to notice the neglect of the upkeep and be upset that the rides aren't being kept to the Disney standard. Revision is very important.

[@ChloeLouiseTheRonnieRepublic]

And I keep reading that it was so important to Walt not to break the magic or show faults in the scene because that ruins the experience. Which it does because then one stats focusing on the broken piece of equipment instead of the magic of the ride.

[@cren151]

@@ChloeLouiseTheRonnieRepublic I totally agree. When I went on Pirates last November, the banjo music wasn't playing and the talking skull's jaw was only half working. A few of the smoldering logs weren't working. It really took me out of the immersion. Do you by any chance know where you read the thing about Walt emphasizing the importance of not breaking the magic?

[@ChloeLouiseTheRonnieRepublic]

@@cren151 My favorite news show in the morning went away so now I just listen to various Disney vids and Offhand is always one of my favorites. I also listen to Matterhorn Matt and Alex the Historian. Some of their shows are really the quality of network television. They often talk about Walt Disney and the original Disneyland They mention the fact that while Disney has to grow it should also pay attention to the detail just as you suggested in your post. I have also watched the PBS special on Walt many times. One of the best examples of detail is the red and white light bulb in one of the shops and I have seen that in many vids. I do not remember where I heard this specifically but it is often mentioned and I also listen to videos with interviews from some of the original Imagineers. Tony Baxter is interesting and a wealth of information as far as history. He will be speaking at the end of this month in Florida about the original trains and I think it is the Carolwood Society. I would love to hear him talk in person someday. In the most recent Matterhorn Matt Alex and Matt discussed the train at Disneyland and said it definitely needed to be repaired.

[@SirBlackReeds]

This comment needs to be pinned.

[@lilli.2473]

Not to mention the Peoplemover.. they just left it there despite public outcry and still have done nothing about it. (I know they would have to close Tomorrowland for it, but honestly the whole land needs to be wiped clean to start over at this point imo)

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

On the bright side in terms of Club Cool, it will return in a new capacity and you can still get drinks that were available there elsewhere on Disney property like the Coke rooftop bar. You'll be on primetime Freeform? Wow that's awesome news

[@OffhandDisney]

Very excited for Freeform! And I’m hoping Klub Kool or something comes back in the new festival center, or even in the Odyssey.

[@chazzwozzio]

also get Powerline

[@Angie2343]

What about Electric Umbrella?

[@christheleavittman7080]

"To all who come to this PLACE...Welcome!!"-Walt Disney

[@trickytreyperfected1482]

Without the "happy", Walt doesn't sound so welcoming anymore lol

[@coppertopolo]

No fair having an intelligent, well thought out discussion in a KZbin vlog. Not when a LOT of KZbin viewers just want irrational, click-bait rants so they can add THEIR short-sighted opinions to. BRAVO to you for this video.

[@OffhandDisney]

Title is clickbait, I like to think I was at least a little rational in the video.

[@michaelsullivan3581]

Almost entirely rational, I'd say. Something is clickbait if it's misleading. There's no misleading in your video! Measured, considerate conversation is it's own reward, after all! Ya done good!

[@naosstulos]

People have strong memories of their time at Disney parks. To see that take a drastically different direction in these changes can feel like an assault on those memories. If we have a tree we sat under every day as a kid, we will be strongly against it being chopped down. Even if it is being removed for a very good reason. EPCOT has always had trouble making money if moving in IPs makes it profitable and keeps Disney solvent then that's the right thing to do. I say this already mourning the EPCOT of my youth and how it is pretty much already gone. A profitable Disney means an expanding Disney. We all want more Disney parks/attractions. Walts dreams were often waylaid by costs, we need to support profitability so there CAN be better quality content and not any shrinkage of rides we already love.

[@jmn327]

When did EPCOT have trouble making money?

[@naosstulos]

EPCOTs profitability was always heavily based on sponsorship. Each pavilion had a sponsor who footed most of the costs of the ride and upkeep in exchange for advertisement. As those companies interest waned(GM-World of Motion) or they had financial problems(Kodak-Journey into Imagination) Disney found it extremely difficult to replace those sponsors and found themselves footing the bill. TBH, EPCOT has been a financial problem in Disney's side for 30 years. Some could even argue it was never very profitable since its opening. EPCOT is nowhere near what it was envisioned to be since its beginning and money has always been the problem there. If opening the door to character IPs saves the future of EPCOT and can help it grow(Especially toward its original vision for the World Showcase). I am all in.

[@jmn327]

@@naosstulos I'm aware of the sponsor model, but I can't find any evidece that EPCOT's ever had a profitability issue. If there's been one, I'd presume it'd have begun once the company began utterly neglecting the park in the late 90s, but again I can't find anything. Given this current management regime, I don't look to IP to save anything about original visions; under Iger and Chapek, IPs ARE the vision. It's all they've done since they've been in charge in the domestic parks.

[@naosstulos]

@@jmn327 My father helped build EPCOT and mother worked there and at the surrounding DISNEY parks for 25+ years. So I got a lot of the insider info as I was growing up. I can say without a doubt that EPCOTs profitability has always been an issue. Before Hollywood(MGM) Studios it was by far the least profitable park in all of Disney and would consistently get ~25% less visitors than The Magic Kingdom in California. The cost vs. profit ratio for EPCOT has always been an issue, but it was one that was hidden intentionally until it got outed when sponsors started pulling out of the park. The original World Showcase was supposed to have 31 countries represented(See EPCOT history in this very same channel. Wonderful job BTW Offhand Disney) and opened with 9. They have been stuck at 11 for a long while now as it has been very difficult to get country sponsorship for the parks.

[@jmn327]

@@naosstulos That's really not very accurate. For one, the World Showcase is not designed to support 31 pavilions; it has expansion pads, yes, but can only support 19 total countries, and was designed with the idea of future expansion in mind (future management had different ideas, though it appears Brazil might be on the way). Secondly, the sponsors pulling out isn't a matter of the park's profitability, it's a matter of the entire business model of park sponsorships on the scale of the original park becoming outdated. Also, attendance was not an issue at all in the park's first decade-plus of existence; it still mostly isn't, Magic Kingdom just draws THAT many people, but even so that doesn't really impact the bottom line when you factor in food/drink/merch sales and the fact that an operating second gate creates more business overall by keeping people on WDW property longer. Upkeep and maintenance was undoubtedly costly for the large pavilions of Future World, but the current project they're undertaking dwarfs those costs given the problems that were allowed to compound over the years. I don't doubt that your parents heard things, but going by insiders with sources within the higher echelons of the company, most of that doesn't hold true.

[@DanielB360]

My main problem is with Bob Chapek's cheapness, and pricing out of many guests.

[@alexschneider1667]

Daniel Balding wow #fakefan his name is bob jpeg even Dallan said it

[@crystabrown5755]

I disagree, raising prices is the only way disney can effectively control crowd. Few people have enjoyed the past few years of wall to wall crowds penguin walking through Disneyland. Lowering curbs, widening sidewalks, and raising prices has made the parks much more enjoyable. In my opinion at least

[@DanielB360]

@@crystabrown5755 I would be fine with that, if the increased revenue showed up when they added something, but, like with Galaxy's Edge, the budget was severely cut.

[@OffhandDisney]

I think part of it is crowd control, ESPECIALLY at Disneyland, but I do agree ticket prices are getting kinda up there. And like I said in the video, it’s kinda sad they never built the dinner show and the 3rd ride in Galaxy’s Edge.

[@crystabrown5755]

I’m just happy to pay more of that means I’m getting a better experience with more reasonable wait times. I’m not a huge fan of Galaxy’s edge, but it makes Disneyland bigger and put the horse stable in an on stage location so guests can actually visit

[@drewsinclair8312]

I don’t care what anyone says. Pandora should have been beastly kingdom 😢

[@jimmyjimy1]

I agree, although Pandora is AWESOME! But they really need to make beastly kingdom a thing.

[@stevenlanzarotta9576]

Maybe Beastly Kingdom will appear someday, just in another location in the park.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@stevenlanzarotta9576 The thing of that is, the revitalized Beastly Kingdom would be compared too much with The Lost Continent, which is effectively the concept of the purported original Animal Kingdom add-on that never materialized alongside Dino Land U.S.A (Instead, Camp Minnie-Mickey, a meet-and-greet spot for the mice couple wearing their jungle safari outfits that was originally just meant to be a temporary placeholder, was hastily installed in what was to be Beastly Kingdom's section of Animal Kingdom after Michael Eisner felt that budget constraints could only support the creation of one themed land due to the finances being whittled down from the creation of Animal Kingdom in general & the colossal failure that was Disneyland Paris under its previous EuroDisney moniker), only it ended up at Universal Studios rather than Disney's Animal Kingdom like originally advertised. Furthermore, mythical creatures have existed throughout Disney's history, with or without a corresponding land for them to call home. However, if they're going to expand on the mythological aspects & add in dragons (Maleficent's transformation at the end of _Sleeping Beauty_ , Elliot from _Pete's Dragon_ & Figment of E.P.C.OT's defunct Journey Into Imagination attraction, notwithstanding or perhaps, allowing these characters to make sporadic appearances within what would've been Beastly Kingdom had it been completed), give Tink & her fae friends something of purpose (Pixie Hollow does nothing, because there's really nothing that ties it to any pre-existing land, outside of Tink's association with _Peter Pan_ from the James M. Barrie stories, hence its existence in Fantasyland nearby _Peter Pan's Flight_ for obvious reasons), bring in centaurs/satyrs (this could also incorporate Phil of 1997's _Hercules_ & Mr. Tumnus from _The Chronicles of Narnia_ & the ones from that particular segment in _Fantasia_ from 1940), give elves - who are different from dwarves (obviously referencing the seven [Grumpy, Bashful, Happy, Sleepy, Sneezy, Doc & Dopey] with OG princess _Snow White_ as the first theatrical animated feature that Disney ever produced), mind you, although both are literal representations of little persons (usually often defined by the OZian term "munchkin" or by the potentially derogatory euphemism "midget"), except that elves have enhanced abilities (this does not include shoemaking like in the classic fable of _The Elves & the Shoemaker_ because anyone can be a cobbler no matter the size, it's just that elves seem to be more associated with the skill when they aren't otherwise getting hired by Santa Claus to help make toys ahead of the Christmas holiday, are unfortunately made subservient to all-powerful wizards & witches in the _Harry Potter_ world, are thought to be prone to mischief-making in traditional lore & in the _Artemis Fowl_ books soon to be adapted into feature films, they serve as members of the People's Lower Elements Police Recon - yes, it is a cheesy "Leprechaun" pun - team, lead by spunky female redhead Holly Short as team captain), whereas dwarves generally don't (outside of digging out precious gems as part of their miner's occupation, of course) - a presence in the park (especially with Disney now having film distribution rights to any movie adaptation of Eoin Colfer's _Artemis Fowl_ books [featuring the titular teenage reformed ex-criminal genius, his hulking manservant Butler & their growing partnership with the People, in particular Arty's possible budding relationship - whatever it is - with the aforementioned Holly Short] & perhaps also calling back to mind the Disney Channel Original Movie _The Luck of the Irish_ as well), they should make it at least similar to Beastly Kingdom yet maybe title it beneath the more expansive _Artemis Fowl_ branding so that each type of mythical creature has their time to shine, seeing as every type of mythological creature openly exists in the books of _Artemis Fowl_ but they remain hidden from the human world well below ground, because those who spearhead the People's affairs with humans on the surface are very well aware of humanity's propensity to exploit magical things for its own selfish gain.

[@Specialguy29]

TherealRNO holy shit... this the biggest comment ever

[@jalapeno1119]

It won't happen with Harry Potter World

[@nicksalmon]

I think the main reason most people dislike more and more ip’s coming into the parks is because they are wanting original new stuff from the imagineers. Having everything be IP based doesn’t allow them to be 100% creative and who knows what we could get if they did have creative freedom. I think the same thing is happening in the film industry. The 70’s and 80’s allowed artist and directors to take risks but now everyone is just lazy and working on remakes and sequels. Great video though! I agree 100% about people being contrarians. It’s counterproductive and way to “try hardy” to make any difference.

[@OffhandDisney]

They have to hit the balance. I think with things like Soarin’, Test Track and the Play Pavilion, they’re still doing alright in terms of not having IPs take over

[@steamboatwill3.367]

Nick Salmon ) you're wrong about the film industry.

[@Bazil4444]

@@OffhandDisney how is there balance if they haven't made an original ride since everest?

[@SirBlackReeds]

Don't forget that IPs actually have a rather mixed history. Sometimes you get Indiana Jones™ Adventure and Star Tours, other times you get the Finding Nemo rides and Incredicoaster, and then there's stuff like Mike & Sulley To The Rescue and Goofy's Sky School.

[@timfortune9]

Well, show me a united fandom and I'll show you one with only one person. There was one author who said that people have always complained, it just used to be that they had to grab a pen and paper to vent and could cool down by the time they actually got around to mailing the letter. But thanks to the internet...

[@robertiger3098]

Tell me about it, it’s hard to please a fanbase

[@alexschneider1667]

Fuck you and your guardians of the galaxy ride in Epcot my good sir

[@Maxops500]

@@alexschneider1667 butthurt

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

Michael Eisener is better than you. 😒

[@thelandmark0510]

Michael Eisner sucked! Bob Iger is golden!

[@JonsMovies104]

Alaina Schneider Thanos would like to know your location.

[@TechnologyConnections]

Thank you very much for this. I've been seeing all the Epcot despair and it honestly gives me secondhand despair. Apparently that's possible. I was watching the stream and was so *happy* with how Epcot was being treated. The notion that people got mad at what they saw was downright _baffling_ to me and made me think the world's gone mad. There are things I'm gonna miss a lot, like the Fountain of Nations, but I also know that Epcot in 2019 is just... well it's hard to imagine a first-timer finding the architecture and aesthetic to be anything but tired. I LOVE the pink neon skirting the edges of Innoventions, but ya gotta admit it's a special kind of love that is way more nostalgia than it is inspired. Anyway, of course it will be sad to go back to Epcot and have it be completely different from the memories of my childhood, but it so badly needs refreshing and what they plan to do looks amazing, respectful to the original Epcot concept, and best of all, inspiring. That's what Epcot needs to be, and I would rather see some IP-heavy attractions pull people in so they can explore the rest of the wonderful park, than to keep hoping people will be drawn in because it's Epcot. 'Cause that ain't working anymore.

[@BenLewitt]

But to address a non-Star Wars point. IP content has its place, but I think IPs could arguably be viewed as lazy imagineering. Epcot also felt special because it didn't rely on IP at all and now that differentiation is rapidly going away. I don't feel strongly about it personally but totally understand the appeal for fresh creativity in the parks instead of what will sell more action figures. IP can be used as a crutch (or to achieve marketing synergy) instead of coming up with something creative and new. Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Phantom Manor, Mystic Manor are all great examples where imagineers came up with something whole cloth. I think there's a place for IP rides but Epcot was fairly unique in not having them. But I think it's bigger than just Disney parks, it's Disney films and really Hollywood in general... there's no willingness to take the risk of doing something new and creative and instead there's over reliance on questionable remakes and existing IP.

[@jeffdeering5808]

I think part of the problem is in American tastes in general. Customers are more interested in experiencing something they are familiar with then in trying something new. This extends to movies, rides, food, etc. When customers don't want to try new things there is not much reason for companies to experiment

[@billyjobobb]

@@jeffdeering5808 But many new things have been great successes.

[@jaxrobinson3890]

@@jeffdeering5808 I think it's a dual issue. Yes, I think the majority (not the vast majority I think, but I could be wrong) of moviegoers in the US are less willing to take a chance on a film dealing with unfamiliar territory story-wise. Alita is a good example here, despite being an adaption of a well-loved Japanese IP. That said, I also think that Hollywood has had an issue recently of a particular mindset they've ingrained. That being the mindset that movies needing to be big, extravagant, CG heavy setpieces to get people to see them. At the end of the day, Hollywood is a business, and they need to make money - fair enough - but when the majority of the movies coming out have budgets of $100-200 MILLION dollars or more in a lot of cases, risking on an unknown idea doesn't look too appealing, despite the fact that I think a large chunk of moviegoers are actually craving something new and fresh.

[@selenamarinello7280]

I truly appreciate you making this. I'm still on the outer rim of the disney community because I dont find it as welcoming as they make it out to be. I also cant get down with the constant negativity towards ANY change. I listened to a really great biography on Walt, and if there is anything to take away from a very mysterious man, it's that he wants to constantly change and progress. More new attractions means new technologies, new experiments. That's what he was all about. He showed this interest when he was 19!

[@SirBlackReeds]

He wouldn't have wanted Epcot to lose its futurism aspect.

[@pickledpaintpalette]

I appreciate this video a lot! Disney is constantly changing and Walt wanted the parks to be NOT like a museum, but to be constantly changing and involving! I’m so glad you had time to explain this for people who need it! Anyway I really love your videos!

[@mikemoore7297]

Yes there's even a video of Walt saying there will be at least 1 new thing in Disneyland every year.

[@CoryTheRaven]

Walt explicitly stated that Disneyland would, in part, be a museum: “The idea of Disneyland is a simple one. It will be a place for people to find happiness and knowledge. It will be a place for parents and children to share pleasant times in one another’s company; a place for teachers and pupils to discover greater ways of understanding and education. Here the older generation can recapture the nostalgia of days gone by, and the younger generation can savor the challenge of the future. Here will be the wonders of Nature and Man for all to see and understand. Disneyland will be based upon and dedicated to the ideals, the dreams and hard facts that have created America. And it will be uniquely equipped to dramatize these dreams and facts and send them forth as a source of courage and inspiration to all the world. Disneyland will be sometimes a fair, an exhibition, a playground, a community center, a museum of living facts, and a showplace of beauty and magic. It will be filled with accomplishments, the joys and hopes of the world we live in. And it will remind us and show us how to make these wonders part of our own lives.” The "Disneyland is not a museum" mantra is something that Imagineering invented whenever they were criticized for doing something badly.

[@stanfordite]

Sorry but Disneyland and the parks actually ARE museums.

[@jeungrioppa5937]

Not to mention that California adventure is basically gone. All of the factors that make California Adventure California like, has been demolished. Hollywood tower of terror? Gone. Soaring of California? Poof. Paradise Pier? Deceased. California screamin’? Demolished. Thought the park will always be changing, I don’t understand what there will be left in the park that will represent California. (Other the Buena Vista, Hollywood lane, etc)

[@LaurenceQuint]

Same at Hollywood Studios in Florida. It's original theme/mission statement is almost completely gone. Shrug.

[@skinflutey]

DCA was a bad concept to begin with.

[@mooseywoosey8734]

Jeungri Oppa honestly, the idea of a California themed theme park in Cali is a dumb concept anyway. With the money a family of 4 would spend on a 4 day Disney vacation you can visit every spot in the stare tge park tries to recreate and actually broaden your horizons. I’m glad that DCA feels a bit more Disney as opposed to feeling Californian. This may be bias however causeI’m a Californian though. So disclaimer

[@jimmyjimy1]

@@mooseywoosey8734 even as a non Californian it has always seemed like a dumb idea. We would go and think "Why is there a California themed park...in CALIFORNIA" and I get that they wanted to bring more tourism in, but they need to change the name. I think its vastly improved over the old DCA, but that's just my opinion.

[@jeungrioppa5937]

George ofthejungle I see why you would think that. As a California resident, and a Disneyland AP plus holder (the highest AP), I really appreciated this park. It felt like a Disney park, without it being that much Disney. It’s really something you had to see in person. Whenever I went to Disneyland, I went to Disneyland for fun and pictures, and California adventure for thriller.

[@kristinknighton]

Change is not comfortable, especially when you are never sure what you’re going to end up with *Imagination Pavilion*. But to go to the negative right away before even seeing what the finished attraction/experience is is a little much. I’m okay with people deciding not to go to the parks anymore because of the changes, more room for me! 😊 Love your channel!

[@noahs5636]

I agree being negative off the bat should stop but honestly when you’re hoping for an original ride and you get IP after IP and replacing original rides with IPs it gets old you tend to get cynical. I’m fine with IPs I just want some original attractions as well, ya know? And I agree people don’t like change. There’s always going to be loads of people with attachment to rides and attractions and yeah, they’re gonna be sad when their favorite ride gets removed for something new that they don’t particularly care for. There’s no need to be toxic about it but that’s where people are coming from.

[@kristinknighton]

Noah S-I do understand, too. One of my favorites is Spaceship Earth and I am holding my breath for what it’s going to be like on the other side of the refurbishment. I also adored the Great Movie Ride and am anxious to see the new MM coaster. I love Mickey, the OG, and I hope that it lives up to all the hype. I guess as long as they never ever turn the castle into a hideous pink cake again I’ll go with the flow and try to be positive about changes (or at least until I can experience them in person before I give my thumbs down).

[@noahs5636]

Kristin Wittmeyer haha that cake castle was such a bad idea! I agree I’m hoping the Mickey ride turns out well because GMR was one of my favorites. It’s just one of those where I feel like they could have put the new ride elsewhere. I’m all for the Mickey ride I just wish it didn’t have to replace GMR.

[@kristinknighton]

Noah S Amen!

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@noahs5636 If Mickey's Toontown would still be in Florida, it probably wouldn't have had to replace the Great Movie Ride & would've instead been put in Roger Rabbit's spot, because Roger Rabbit is a jointly owned property (owned by Disney [via Touchstone Pictures] AND its competitor Warner Brothers [through Steven Spielberg's Amblin Entertainment]) & therefore, its characters cannot be actively used anymore, so the attraction is dated, since current generations do not know who Roger Rabbit even is.

[@mochii1016]

Disney:Removes a Tree Fans:WHAT THE HECK! WE LOVED THAT TREE! WE HATE YOU!

[@quinnzykir]

Damn I thought you were pulling a Mendela effect on us

[@Nitrodino7875]

Mandela effect isnt re

[@Nitrodino7875]

Real

[@323starlight]

Jose Castillo you do have the option of editing comments.

[@OffhandDisney]

That’s a MANDELA

[@1TheGirlWithNoName1]

I thought I imagined Walt Disney saying "happy place" for a second there

[@toms6538]

Omg AMEN to the GE comments.... “crowds are going to be horrible”. “Crowds are going to be worst ever” Disney hears this- handles the crowds spectacularly “GE was a failure” 🤔

[@rebekahdorr8708]

Tom S there weren’t big crowds to handle. Attendance is down at DL in general and if you look at the attendance for ROTR compared to FOP, it is very much a failure. Ppl are whining because disney handled the crowds well. Disney’s failure was in the abysmal departure from incorporating what made Star Wars what it was. And then they turned it into a shopping mall with a ride. Sorry but that has nothing to do with whiny ppl who are essentially never satisfied either way. They showed up and continue to do so for pandora and other classics so let’s get off this merry go round of pretending it’s not a failure and it’s merely the product of entitled and dissatisfied trolls. K?

[@rebekahdorr8708]

Ppl Arent* whining because disney controlled crowds well

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

@@rebekahdorr8708 what people dont understand is that 60% of disneyLAND attendees are locals using the SoCal Pass. They made the past few months blackout dates for everything but day passes or the top tier pass. If locals cant go to disneyland, the park will be empty

[@Jellyyfishyy]

@@rebekahdorr8708 I love how people keep comparing it to a shopping mall. Is that not what the rest of Disneyland is as well?? Food, rides, entertainment, and stores. GE is not a themepark. If it was then I'd probably be upset with how things went during opening but It's a land in a themepark.

[@PeruvianPotato]

I went to Disneyland and the tickets are so fucking expensive that my parents barley afforded them

[@michaeleisner4758]

There’s people that are fans of IPcot, there are purists, and then there’s the toxic DisTwitter peeps. You can’t talk about Epcot these days without having a debate

[@cameron5422]

Michael Eisner i cant tell if this is actually mr mike himself or not and frankly i’m too afraid to ask

[@maryprostick4012]

If you are Micheal Eisner thanks for Hollywood and animal kingdom!

[@mcblocks123]

It seems that every fandom has a toxic side that goes to Twitter these days - everything offhand Disney talked about here is an issue with all entertainment fandoms - every time a new smash Bros character was announced twitter is full of people complaining that the character they wanted didn’t make it when the game is already the biggest crossover in entertainment history and the same kinda stuff carries over to the Disney theme park fandom

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@mcblocks123 The biggest crossover, aside from Roger Rabbit, of course, but that was back when Disney was feeling the effects of its Dark Age before the Renaissance & Warner Brothers needed Disney to fall back on, seeing as without Disney, there would not be a competing Warner Brothers either, because in the inkblot cartoon days of "Rubber hose" animation, in which everything was sentient & had a face - to the point that even inanimate objects were given cartoonish, human facial features, well ahead of Disney harking back to it upon turning the transfigured Prince's servants into Enchanted Objects in _Beauty & the Beast _ (in 1991 & 2017, respectively) - Disney's Oswald was ripped from them by greedy Universal (due to copyright laws not benefiting creators at the time but rather supporting the distributors instead), however Mickey & Friends were thereby created in response to losing Oswald, yet fledgling Warner Brothers basically took the Oswald template & made it into a non-politically correct little black boy of undetermined origins named Bosko with a lookalike girlfriend named Honey as WB's first animated character, more or less essentially created Porky Pig out of a stockier version of what resembles Practical Pig from _The Three Little Pigs_ Silly Symphony but made Porky uniquely stand out by giving him an iconic stuttering speech impediment, created insanely greedy Daffy Duck off the back of Donald Duck's success, created the "Two-Tone" trio of fox couple Foxy & Roxy with their piano prodigy doglike humanoid friend Goopy Geer as Warner Brothers' attempt to purposely mooch off of Mickey & Minnie and Dippy Dawg/George Geef/Goofy (the "Two-Tones" also became the template for the _Animaniacs_ sibling trio Yakko, Wakko & Dot after the idea to have them be ducks was aborted when execs at WB felt that ducks had been "done to death" [their company's own Daffy & his pupil Plucky, as well as Disney's already extensive Duck family tree - Donald, Huey, Dewey & Louie, Ludwig Von Drake, Scrooge McDuck, Launchpad McQuack, Darkwing Duck, etc. - not to mention bad box office bomb Howard the Duck based on the questionable comic of the same name, vampiric duck Duckula airing in syndication & rather adult cartoon series Duckman on MTV] & therefore, went to the inkwell again to use the "Two-Tones" first in _Animaniacs'_ predecessor series _Tiny Toon Adventures_ as a nice throwback, before then basically reusing the entire idea for the basis behind the 3 zany Warner siblings as 3 Toons from those bygone days too crazy to be let loose on the unsuspecting public, who then made their grand escape from 1993-1998 & are returning again for 2 seasons in 2020, airing surprisingly on now Disney-owned Hulu, despite _Animaniacs_ being a Warner Brothers ["And the Warner Sister!" ~Dot] property) & basically modeled their original 1940's starting design of stalwart mascot Bugs Bunny on one of Universal's independent designs of Oswald, well before Disney got Oswald back in return for newscaster Al Michaels in 2012.

[@jalapeno1119]

@@mcblocks123 Twitter is a bloodbath that seems to attract the worst in people. I stay off of it.

[@larryboren9389]

im just hoping that figment gets to stay an im dreaming that thay bring bk dream finder

[@OffhandDisney]

Me too. That’s the ideal future for me. A NEW version of the original Journey into Imagination.

[@ryanmiller407]

Wtf is your profile icon

[@Ninja_jay_]

larry boren profile picture be 👌😂

[@UmmYeahOk]

That ride is proof that the "Disney fan cycle" that keeps getting referenced here isn't always true. And if these fans were wrong, Disney wouldn't have attempted to retheme it just two years after the reopening. That was pretty much an admission of Disney that they made a mistake.

[@rct3isepic]

I wouldn’t mind seeing the inside out emotions coexisting with figment

[@darthdank1993]

I still think opening without the main attraction was a mistake.

[@jasonthesnow]

Darth Dank I think of it less as a grand opening and more as a soft opening to test out the land. It’s so incredibly immersive and integrated with so many things that allowing guest to test it out without the main attraction probably allows them to test the systems out before the main load hits. Think of it as Star Wars Beta and when the rise of the resistance opens its Star Wars full version

[@darthdank1993]

Jason Snow maybe but i feel they lost that when they did the big grand opening ceremony and big pr push to encourage trips to be booked without stressing the truth aboit the main attraction. Even know they keep moving the opening up yet holiday trips are months away trips that can cost 10k on the low end and might take years to repeat. Those people are going to be ticked if they feel lied to. I know many already debating canceling and feeling pissed disney isnt being straight with them.

[@SirBlackReeds]

@@jasonthesnow It's really not that immersive. Frankly, the low attendance shows that the "beta testing" was a mistake.

[@SirBlackReeds]

It was, and if the insider info is accurate, then it may very well bite them twice as hard as they've already been bitten. Still, a bigger mistake was not trying to supplement the land more (ex. making several Millenium Falcon areas specifically for photo ops), and not making Smuggler's Run better. Just whose idea was it to put buttons on the side for the non-pilots to push, am I right? I know that the MF actually has buttons on the side, but still, being a pilot shouldn't be that much better than being a non-pilot.

[@uss_04]

I dont mind a retheming to keep it relevant, but once a year I’d like to see a “callback” of old themes. Like Star Tours running its old ride program.

[@crystabrown5755]

US I love when things change as long as what they replace with is better, but I agree a nod to the fans who remember the original is always fun

[@OffhandDisney]

I agree. Throwback nights are a start over at Disneyland, but a night where, say, they play the original 1970s score to Space Mountain or something similar would probably go a long way.

[@uss_04]

Offhand Disney How amazing would that be, a callback week where they retheme an entire land or even the whole park the best they could to a year or era. Change the music, or the color palettes for the nighttime lighting to the way it was in the 50/60/70/80/90s. Personally I’d like to see some people mover mockups in Tomorrowland again, with Original Star Tours playing, and a mockup of rocket jets on the loading platform just to show what that big concrete structure in the middle of Disneyland Tomorrowland used to do.

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

Star Tours resumed the 2nd generation of its incarnation so its possible they could once in a while revert to the older version for a time. you should bring it up to disney.

[@r2mickeyd2]

US It would be cool if they did that for one of Disneyland’s big anniversaries. Like how they had the Diamond Celebration for the 60th. Which was so amazing btw! It would be so neat if they paid tribute to things like that.

[@GrimSoulBanisher]

Tower of Terror: better theming. Guardians: better thrill ride. Each has it's up side. Both are good.

[@LakeHowellDigitalVideo]

Well, honestly.... The whole "Disney fans realize that this is way better than the old stuff" doesn't happen that much. Rocket Rods (versus Wedway People Mover). Mission: Space (versus Horizons). Stitch's Great Escape (versus Alien Encounter). Very often, Disney's newer replacements really, really suck hard...... and suck often. Disney does miss the mark more than we care to admit.... and I'd qualify myself as a Disney fanboy.

[@SirBlackReeds]

I'd argue that Stitch and ExtraTERRORestrial are about the same as both received mixed receptions from guests.

[@backstoryben]

I feel exactly what you feel about this situation. Although for me it's usually "I didn't really like a ride but then I like it when it goes away." The best example is the Great Movie Ride. I remember not liking it at all because I was scared of it. And now that it's gone I really miss it. Mostly for the fact that I'm a Film student now and for the live actors aspect of the attraction. I don't hate Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway, I just miss the Great Movie Ride. I definitely will love Runaway Railway honestly. (And it's really hard for me to hate anything Disney does because I'm a huge Disney Freak.) Also great job making it to Freeform!! That's such a cool experience! :D

[@999Adventures]

I just typed a long rant and actually forgot about the GMR. Every time I go to Hollywood Studios I wish I could ride it one more time. I really really loved this ride and still do. Unlike its partner in closing (Ellen), I did ride GMD every trip, it was a go to for me. I, like you, also know I will love Runaway Railway, from what I've seen so far the innovation is just incredible. I wish there was a way to have both, but the reality is there wasn't.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@999Adventures Blame that on Galaxy's Edge eating up Mickeys' Toontown Fair (the remainder being Storybook Circus, which can sod off, for all I care, since it's just a cheap circus overlay of what used to be Mickey's neighborhood & the Roger Rabbit ride, with the latter being where the new Runaway Railway could've easily been installed - since Roger Rabbit is a jointly owned property between rivaling companies, so the characters from that cult classic movie can't openly make active appearances anymore outside of anniversary events & late-night, after-hours speciality events tailored to a specific theme in the first place - instead of replacing the Great Movie Ride, which would have gone the way of the dodo anyway due to Disney not renewing their relationship with MGM)

[@stanfordite]

After I take over Disney, I'm changing DHS back to MGM and putting back the Great Movie Ride as if it never left. I'm also going to put a different one in DCA as well with a few holdovers including The Wizard of Oz. I'm also bulldozing Galaxy's Edge and replacing it with a Wizard of Oz themed area. I don't care if in Iger and Chapek's eyes that's "helping the competition" and gets me accused of being a double agent and a spy for Warner Bros. I also don't care if kids don't know the movies, that's their problem.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@stanfordite Therein, lies the problem with retaining GMR & the MGM branding: The competition (i.e. Warner Brothers) own the MGM back catalog/film library & many of the classic films in GMR that were part of Ted Turner's media empire also came under Warner ownership via the Time-Warner merger! Then again, Disney owns distribution & majority ownership over HULU, yet the streaming platform still carries a lot of properties owned by its competition (some from Viacom's various Nickelodeon branches & its more "mature" MTV channels back when they were relevant on top of multiple classic sitcoms that used to air on Viacom-owned CBS or Nickelodeon's primetime Nick-at-Nite 24/7 sister station TVLand, selective Warner Brothers retro programming & a few shows from Warner's Cartoon Network/CN subsidiary station, a lot of PBS stuff even though the non-profit organization's initials stand for the Public Broadcasting Service that's been basically free to anyone with a television set akin to default Channel 3 from way back in the non-digital analog/"rabbit ears" antenna days, etc.), which also includes the impending _ANIMANIACS_ reboot, which kicks off on Nov. 20th, 2020!

[@stanfordite]

@@TherealRNOwwfpooh Disney is getting broken up by Capitol Hill and losing everything that they bought which will put them back in their place as nothing but an animation studio with some theme parks. A little something called antitrust. It was used by Teddy Roosevelt's adminstration to destroy Rockefeller's oil empire. Also, after I seize control of Disney in a hostile takeover, all decisions will be made by asking "what would Walt do?" again like they were for years after his death. I will bring back the Great Movie Ride behind other studios backs using those movies free and FYI Disney never paid a cent for use of those movies. The only thing they would've had to pay for is the real Judy Garland's voice. The TCM sponsorship didn't happen until 2014. All the media giants are getting broken up. The AOL-Time Warner merger will be undone, Comcast will reduced back to nothing but a cable company, even AT&T will be reduced back to nothing but a telephone company and be nationalized. Ted Turner is going to be forced to hand over the MGM catalog back to MGM. With all the media giants getting broken up, I can tell you that the old Studio System of the Golden Age of Hollywood will be coming back sending the industry back to the 1930s and 40s. All actors will be back under contract to one studio at a time again and that means MGM will return to its former glory with "more stars than there are in the heavens." The major studios will be going back to the families of those great studio bosses so that means MGM will go back to the descendants of the great Louis B. Mayer and even Warner Bros will go back to the Warner family. I will be putting up a statue of Walt and Mayer shaking hands where the Sorcerer's Hat once was. I will turn Galaxy's Edge into Munchkinland and that Star Wars hotel is going to become the Emerald City.

[@DisneyGirl626]

I really think what Disney is doing to Epcot is a good idea it's fresh and new and they are trying to focus on making the land better. I might have not been to Disney world a whole hand full of times. Been there twice and we are thinking of taking our kids in the future. That I think with so much that has changed since I've been have been good things.

[@OffhandDisney]

I agree! Lots of good stuff for Epcot. Even if it means loosing Club Cool, the “reinvention” of the Park has been a long time coming.

[@DisneyGirl626]

@@OffhandDisney can't agree more, it's good that Disney wants to change things up. It's the only way to keep people interested and wanting to see what the changes have brought. I know I sure can't wait to what these changes bring to park.

[@SirBlackReeds]

They could have made it a retro-futurism park though. Now it's losing its futurism aspect.

[@B0nd07]

This ended up a bit longer and a little more ramble-y than I intended, but I've been stewing on this for the last day. I am one of those people with stronger feelings about this. Not "boycott the parks" strong, but still pretty unhappy. I will also preface this by saying Epcot, particularly Future World, has (had?) been my favorite place since I was a kid. You said that Disneyland opened with IP based attractions, and yes that true, but I'd like to counter point by saying it also opened with, and in the next 10 or so years added, many classic attractions NOT based on any IP at the time (and in fact became IP just from their existing in a Disney park). I'm talking Jungle Cruise, Pirates of the Caribbean, Haunted Mansion, Tiki Room, and "Small World", to name a few. All of these are still very to extremely popular to this day. Heck, the PeopleMover isn't based on IP and people still want it back over there, and the one at Magic Kingdom still gets huge lines. The point is that a new attraction does not have to be based on an existing IP to have that "Disney magic" or be very popular. Hopefully you can see why some people might be a little irked when they completely replace a classic, often aging, attraction with yet another thrill ride based on an existing IP, rather than updating said attraction to make it new again (hopefully learning from Imagination, where they in fact did fail the first time [though to be fair that was partially Kodak's fault, and sponsors are another issue entirely]). Take the feelings you have for the Haunted Mansion overlay and imagine that it's only a moderately popular ride, Disney was going to make the overlay permanent, and they're going to make it a fast thrill ride now. How would that make you feel? There's also an element of removing/destroying Disney history or landmarks of the parks. Take the Fountain of Nations for example; it was a real spectacle back in the day, being one of the first modern dancing fountains. But it fell into disrepair for a long time, leaving few of the jets working, which is not very fun to watch. Then Disney announced their plans; and instead of fixing the fountain and planning around it, they're just going to fill it in and put a limited use building (that's frankly ugly) smack dab in the center of (for now) Future World just so they can sell some VIP seats for HarmoniUS. All that said, I don't mind when they add in something like the Ratatouille ride. Why? Because nothing was lost with its addition. They didn't bulldoze or re-theme the entire France pavilion, and they didn't replace an opening day attraction for it; it's just new. Or with Gran Fiesta Tour at Mexico; it's still almost the exact same ride, all they did was add the Three Caballeros and changed the tourism board narration. And while a new attraction might be good (Frozen Ever After [I hope they update it with the Belle animatronic tech; those projections honestly don't look very good]), it will never replace the original (Maelstrom). And I can be excited for Galaxy's Edge (WDW), but I'm still sad over the loss of all the back lot attractions; and to this note, the somewhat loss of identities to Epcot and Studios (both used to have edutainment elements that are pretty much gone now). I hope this helps to see where some of us are coming from. It's not just purely "I hate change", it's more "I'm unhappy with their chosen direction/they could do better (it's Disney after all)".

[@SirBlackReeds]

This comment needs much more likes.

[@reikingman3805]

You’re my favorite Disney historian. I love how you’re not biased and wanna understand the fans and why they’re mildly upset and try to help them understand why Disney did what they did. I respect that. Also, I’m going to Disneyland on the 20th! So excited! Keep up the awesome work!! (But they need to bring back the PeopleMover to Disneyland.😐)

[@jpd632]

Hard truth about Star Wars is that Disney has to completely go with the Classic Stuff. These movies haven't had the chance to build any kind of devoted fan base that is even in the realm of what they had with Classic Films. Making their Star Wars world more of a contemporary Star Wars experience as apposed to Classic Star Wars experience was a huge misstep. Its like comparing the Rolling Stones with Coldplay. A Rolling Stones ride would encapsulate 50 PLUS years of history, nostalgia and fond memories for people of all ages. Whereas a Coldplay ride would only feature 15-20 years of nostalgia, good songs and memories and probably only apple to people 45-kids. Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and Darth Vader are Star Wars for 75% of the population of this planet.

[@SovietDictator]

Disney acquired Star Wars and immediately went all-in on alienating the fans. It's hard for me to sympathize with the crybullying against old school Star Wars fans that goes on. With the Internet there will always be a few bad eggs to cherry-pickquotes from but most of the fans I know were only irritated that the focus was not on making better stories and that they'd made characters they did not find as compelling as the old ones.

[@jeshuaphenix3780]

9:50 did you forget to cut your audio lmao

[@OffhandDisney]

I left it in so you could hear my struggle.

[@kirahey4935]

Thank you for being a positive person and good luck on FreeForm!!

[@OffhandDisney]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@bemiatto67]

Literally ALL I want is Disney to bring back characters that the company doesn't care about for permanent meet and greets. Tokyo lets you meet people like Bernard and Miss Bianca, Esmeralda, Max Goof and Robin Hood regularly. I wish the US parks would and bring back people like Dodger and Bolt...

[@dansrandomvideos2515]

I feel that Tokyo is the park that people against the recent change in direction with western Disney parks want in the west. I must say, in my opinion anyway, Tokyo does make the western Disney parks look a bit cash grabby.

[@halesm]

I feel like Disney has lost their edge with the Marvel + Star Wars acquisition. They don't strive for unique attractions or ideas anymore. Everything is recycled 🙁

[@jimmyjimy1]

That's exactly my problem. Let's look at the new attractions and lands that have been opened: Pixar Pier Galaxys Edge (both) Toy Story Land Avengers Academy The common theme here is these are NOT original and they're not Disney. They're just taking other people's ideas and pretending that they are their own. It's sad, and ingenuine.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@jimmyjimy1 They are Disney's. They legally outright bought the I.P. rights from the original (or descendants of the original) creators.

[@gryphoemiawinters3632]

@@TherealRNOwwfpooh they're Disney's legally, but not creatively.

[@jimmyjimy1]

@@TherealRNOwwfpooh everyone knows Disney owns them, that's very obvious. Like the other person said, those aren't creative at all. Its someone else's work that Disney just bought.

[@999Adventures]

@@jimmyjimy1 most of Walt Disney movies that we all see as Disney properties also were other peoples work. He told his own version of someone elses story, the same thats being done with Starwars and Marvel.

[@c.w.r.794]

I belong to several Disney fan groups on Facebook and MY GOD. Disney Park fans are fucking crazy! They will not stop until they have spent every single day at the “happiest place on earth” It’s like they’ve been brainwashed.

[@alyssas73]

i had to replay the intro just to make sure i was hearing it right 😆 it feels wrong when it’s missing the “happy”

[@AdamYJ]

Disney builds a whole lot of its brand on familiarity and nostalgia. We shouldn’t be surprised that people get upset when something changes.

[@stanfordite]

"I love the nostalgic myself. I hope we never lose some of the things of the past." - Walt Disney

[@kyleu4215]

Don’t have any argument to say. I’m just glad someone has finally spoken up about this. It’s been tiresome seeing people complain about every new thing and has made getting excited about new attractions/changes hard. I’d love to see the fans be more supportive.

[@jacksonsuniverse]

I think most people are scared of another Pixar Pier situation, where the upgrades don't seem like they were any better than what already existed. Also, a quick note here on something said towards the end, Epcot did not open with IP's.

[@OGamerGirl92]

Exactly there was no reason for that. The entire premise was to pay homage to santa monica pier, the one thing of the old cali adventure that stayed. Now it just feels like disney is shoving Pixar down everyones throats more with that overhaul. There are some things I wish would remain the same, pirates is one of them. Because so many people complained and bitched and moaned about the realness of a pirate's life (which is what walt wanted) they changed it and said due to the complaints they were changing it. Yes, there were only 2 female pirates mostly known but that took away from walt's vision and the work my grandfather did on there. Now its arguable that the POC Movie overlay was trash, however that I kinda liked, but do I miss the original pirates? Absolutely that is my favorite ride.

[@jacksonsuniverse]

@@OGamerGirl92 Overall, I think the fear Disney Park fans have developed come from the past replacements that were downgrades of what came before, but opinions on some are different for each person. I think most of us can agree that the Pirates overlay was mediocre, Pixar Piere is cheap, and Journey into Your Imagination was insulting, and it's from these incidents that the fanbase's fear originate from. The anger of the past created an inflated fear of tomorrow, fears akin to another Peoplemover being shuttered.

[@asciiman605]

The problem I believe is that people see things as a replacement than plussed or even a natural progression thereof. Some ideas: Monas water experience - I hope they do some really cool things with laminar flow (jumping fountains near figment). Festival plaza and gardens - perhaps a throwback from communicore and have video conferencing hologram terminals or robots (smrt1) act as the Disney experience team. Guardians of the galaxy - have the ride centered around the anulax batteries scene where you are riding the coaster and fighting the monster. The preshow area is where rocket tells the story about the various methods of energy and how they suck compared to the anulax batteries. Also, reinstall the dinos in MK and display them in a room in the new Tron section on the train track. Mexico pavilion and the three caballeros - in the Día de Muertos scene - add Coco animatronic and fiber opic bridge that lights up to the sky.

[@seanward]

"Walt wouldn't want IP in the parks", they said while standing in front of Sleeping Beauty's Castle

[@charbon_nope8142]

I'm excited for many of the new IP based rides (on both coasts), though I wish we could see a fresh idea a la BTM, PoC, and HM every once in awhile. However, I wish all the fun and fancy new rehauls or rides/lands (barring epcot) are taking place in the Asian parks. The Stateside parks truly need a little love, and I'm getting some Disney FOMO

[@BLasherman]

Frozen isn't a "bad" movie, but it is a broken one, I mean they rewrote the whole script because of one song, and it breaks the movies story and moral. I mean she doesn't Let it Go when she is singing the song, she still shuts herself off and hides, so she is lying to herself (She lied to us through song, I hate when people do that!) They should have had her and Anna sing it together at the end of the movie to show she had truly, finally moved on, and I'm just a dude not a screen writer and I KNOW THAT. Plus that snowman is just pointless, but that is a different issue. She can create life? Who cares about cold powers, (though to be fair, the ability to stop all vibration in molecules to instantly freeze something is crazy) the ability to create sentience life is pretty powerful.

[@Courier_333]

It's just hella overrated and it's nowhere near as good as even the renaissance era movies

[@BLasherman]

@@Courier_333 I actually think Moana, Zootopia, and Wreck it Ralph are better movies by the exact same studio. (Coco and Inside Out are also better, but that is Pixar)

[@NightmareRBXhitherefren]

To Be Honest, I Am A Little Worried What They Will Do With Journey Into Imagination.

[@allstarmattking6825]

I thought it is going to get replaced with an inside out ride

[@littlestbunny7]

There's a reason you love Living with the Land so much. It exemplifies what Epcot was about. I always loved that ride, but it wasn't even the best one. It was so important to kill the Living Seas so we could have a completely insubstantial Nemo ride. It was so important to kill Horizons so we could have a completely insubstantial motion simulator. It's not that they simply replaced attractions. They dumbed down the park. The sense of joy and timeless wonder that characterized Future World is basically gone.

[@879SCSP]

As someone on multiple passholder pages, I feel this in my soul

[@OffhandDisney]

Stay strong

[@SirBlackReeds]

You might want to look at the stuff that was cut from Galaxy's Edge.

[@AliFinNoble]

I agree with all of this! As a Floridian and a frequent Disney wold Go where I am excited about changes I’m excited that every time a new ride technology comes out and new advancements in theme park engineering Disney takes a hold of it and makes it their own. It makes me excited to go every year and for a while Disney wasn’t changing or updating the parks and that gets boring I have someone who loves all the old original stuff I like it that they’re changing change is good!

[@DavidinSLO]

While Galaxy's Edge is not perfect, and needs additional work, it's far from a failure. People seem to forget that Disneyland's New Orleans Square opened in 1966 with no rides - just shops and restaurants. Pirates of the Caribbean didn't open for another year (1967) and the Haunted Mansion, two years after that (1969). Yet no one criticized NOS when it opened as "just a shopping mall."

[@SirBlackReeds]

That's a lousy comparison. You can't compare a STAR WARS-themed land to a land that was based off of a city. Plus, you're ignoring the other criticisms that GE receives.

[@SashaHromyk1]

It’s nice to hear from someone who shares a similar opinion to mine concerning all Disney is doing. I’m going to Disneyland next week and am so excited. Bummed that I won’t get to experience Haunted Mansion in its full glory as it’s already in holiday mode but stoked for the trip nonetheless.

[@TheRubypokespe]

I’m not big on HM Holiday either, but darn the Gingerbread house this year is good.

[@Nat4251]

I love this video. Thank you for eloquently putting into words how frustrating it is when people dislike something just because it’s new/popular.

[@SirBlackReeds]

No one dislikes Galaxy's Edge because its new, and no one definitely dislikes it because it's popular. That is especially certain.

[@majinkermit8328]

I worked at Epcot during my first college program.(World Showcase Custodial 2016) while I'm beyond exited to see my home park get the much needed update it deserves, I'm a bit skeptical to see what they do with spaceship earth, it's my favorite attraction in Epcot and ride it ag leats twice every time I go but exited nonetheless.

[@ryanbandito]

Thank you! It seems like most Disney fans only care about IP they are nostalgic for, new IP to them is a threat.

[@jmn327]

Mostly just feels lazy to me. I don't mind it in all situations, but it's all the company has done since the mid-00s.

[@ryanbandito]

@@jmn327 it's not lazy, they've always had IP based attractions, the difference now is balancing the expectations of nostalgic guests and keeping up with the competition of other parks.

[@jmn327]

@@ryanbandito No, not at all, really: there was a balance in the old days, one that isn't around today. Fantasyland was where the IP went for the most part, plus it made sense in places like Studios. But now, again, we literally haven't had a single non-IP attraction since Expedition Everest. I'm not against an incursion of IP here or there outside those boundaries (Splash Mountain and Indiana Jones are obvious major successes), but it's literally all we're getting now. As for Universal, chasing the Potter dragon doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Potter is uniquely well designed for theme parks; trying to force Star Wars or what have to you fit that mold isn't going to bring the type of industry-redefining business that Potter brought.

[@ryanbandito]

@@jmn327 this video was clearly made for you, too bad you didn't pay attention

[@jmn327]

@@ryanbandito Ok, so no actual response, thanks.

[@Nuggtendo]

Im so excited to go to Galaxies Edge! It looks incredible!!

[@OffhandDisney]

Oh, it sure is! Try the blue milk....

[@Baconmaka]

I went recently and it was fun!

[@smurphftw2008]

Galaxy's Edge is a failure in the same way that Fantasyland and New Oreleans Square are failures.

[@Taikofan04]

Smurph Ftw ELABORATE PLEASE

[@SirBlackReeds]

@@smurphftw2008 So let's ignore Disney's damage control?

[@johng689]

I am so happy about the EPCOT updates, most people will say I love the country's however never mention "future world", this is why Disney is upgrading it. To me it's going to be a great change. I agree about Galaxy Edge. I think it's crazy when there are wait times over an hour, like the 3 hours for mine train. Thanks for sharing today!

[@HomeboyfromNoCal]

Yeah man, I agree with everything you said. It's sad to see everyone get so bent out of shape since you know that eventually (and for the most part) everyone will accept the change and like it. I've watched a bunch of your videos and I've never heard your thoughts on the Nightmare Before Christmas version of the haunted mansion. I'm so glad I'm not alone on hating it. It's really cool to see it once, but I just love the original Haunted Mansion. And unfortunately, I always tend to go to Disneyland at the end of the year for the cooler weather, and the run time on the make over is incredibly long, so I always tend to get that version. Luckily I took a trip in February and saw the original Mansion in all its wonderful glory. Keep up the videos man, you do a great job and have an awesome sense of humor. I hope you make it big brother.

[@OffhandDisney]

Thank you for the kind words! It’s not to say I hate Haunted Mansion Holiday, I just hate that it replaces the normal Mansion. Holiday is fine. But it’s around for TOO LONG

[@peanutslist7132]

Wow boy are you guys hipocritical, you cant handle a temporary change to Haunted Mansion, yet ridicule people who genuinely are devastated about Disney's very new idea of constant change, and no matter how you slice it, you ARE ridiculing. WELP it didnt work out for Universal really in the long run, and it wont work for Disney down the road either, the effects wont be seen for about 10 years, they lost the true grip of the heart that is needed for staying power.

[@HomeboyfromNoCal]

@@peanutslist7132 cool story bud!

[@Moonfire121]

@@peanutslist7132 I don't think they care as much about it as you think they do.

[@jolliwoodstudios]

I agree with all your points, and i think haunted mansion Holiday should only be around Christmas instead of through October like its original run.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

The only reason for the Nightmare overlay to the Mansion from October through December is the merged Halloween & Christmas dynamic the film had.

[@jolliwoodstudios]

@@TherealRNOwwfpooh yeah, but the overlay was made especially for Christmas so it makes less, if no sense.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@jolliwoodstudios The reason for that is because the Mansion in its normal state treats itself like it's Halloween 24/7 as it is, anyway, since it is a glorified haunted house done up to Disney's standards.

[@swampsagacity4685]

It doesn’t matter how good any of the new IP rides will be. The charm of EPCOT has always been the magical experience WITHOUT the IP rides & attractions. That is why people are complaining about changes.

[@jalapeno1119]

Are you sure about that? Because when Epcot first opened, all people did was complain about how there was no Disney at it. They had to add that Mickey and Pals tour bus to the World Showcase to keep people happy.

[@SunshineStateInsider]

I think a lot of people are just nostalgic for the way the parks used to be back when they visited as kids and hate seeing the parks change away from that. I get that to a certain extent. It feels great to ride through timeless classics like Haunted Mansion or Space Mountain and experience the ride with my kids more or less the same way as it was back in the day. But the parks need to evolve and change to keep modern audiences engaged too.

[@stanfordite]

No it does not need to evolve. Disneyland is in fact a museum. Kids also need to learn to have to same tastes as their parents. If kids are bored out of their minds by a non-IP attractions then the parents need to keep dragging them on it.

[@AfterDarkFM]

@@stanfordite "Kids also need to learn to have to same tastes as their parents." What!?!? Yeah, that's NEVER going to happen. Did you listen to the same music as your parents? Like the same movies? Same TV shows? Dragging kids on old outdated rides to force them to like them sounds like a great way to make them hate the place. And Walt Disney himself said that parks will never be complete and will always be open to change. "“Disneyland will never be completed. It will continue to grow as long as there is imagination left in the world. It is something that will never be finished. Something that I can keep developing and adding to.”"

[@stanfordite]

@@AfterDarkFM Yes that IS going to happen. Two words: MIND CONTROL. Also to answer all those questions, did I listen to the same music and watch the same movies as my parents, the answer is a resounding YES. Also Walt Disney is dead and the idea that Disneyland will never be complete died along with him. There isn't any imagination left in the world at all. In fact I'll inform you that Disneyland was completed in 1995 after Indiana Jones opened. After I take over Disney, I will make it great again by bringing back old things and going back to making decisions by asking "what would Walt do next?" like they did after he died. You realize that Disney can survive on its name don't you? Seriously its Disney, people WILL come.

[@Bazil4444]

How can you defend IP rides when Disney hasn't made an original ride since everest? And I've ridden the ratatouille ride in Paris, it's a 3 minute screen ride. Was not impressed. It's okay to criticize Disney, sometimes they need it.

[@Mouskegamer]

Except they’ve made a ton of rides that are GOOD since Everest. Smugglers Run, Mission Breakout, all great rides. Who cares if they aren’t original? Why can’t an IP ride be as good as an original one?

[@Bazil4444]

@@Mouskegamer Ah yes, screens, and tower of screens. Are those really good rides?

[@stanfordite]

@@Mouskegamer "Who cares if they aren't original?" I do. And so do real Disney fans.

[@emmahauschild4096]

I really like this format for videos! It was very honest and was so interesting to hear what you have to say on things both in the parks and about the different Disney fandoms. If you want to do more videos like this I 100% support it. Keep up the amazing work!

[@Kill3rrockstar]

I hope the government does something about Disney becoming a monopoly they shouldn't get away with buying every company

[@oscarholmberg3157]

Time warner is bigger

[@stanfordite]

Oh they most definitely are going to and it's going to happen. The government is going to take Marvel, Star Wars, ABC, ESPN, Pixar, and anything that was bought and paid for away from them. Pretty much everything Iger bought will be taken away. All Disney will have left is the animation studios, Walt Disney Pictures, the parks, and any home-grown properties. Iger will be crying how without Marvel, Star Wars, etc. Disney is dead and that the government is "punishing success." Comcast, Time Warner, are also getting torn up as well. The movie studios will be back to being run by individual moguls like Louis B. Mayer at MGM and Jack Warner at Warner Bros. The studio system is coming back in some form.

[@mrstarwars2447]

Both of You are soo unintelligent

[@mrstarwars2447]

stanfordite really?!? Good luck for making that happen 🥴🤪🙄 You really think that would happen... do you even like anything Disney..

[@stanfordite]

@@mrstarwars2447 Oh it's absolutely happening and I already know its gonna happen. Disney is getting broken up and so are Comcast, Time Warner, Viacom, National Amuseuments, and all the other media giants. Hollywood is going to be kicked back to the 1930s and 40s with the studio system coming back. The studios will be independent business again not under some parent company and actors will be back to being under contract to make movies for one studio at a time like Judy Garland and Clark Gable at MGM. This will lead to a couple stars retiring from acting including Brie Larson and Meryl Streep who will be screaming how the studio system is "legal slavery."

[@MisterPiman7884]

The original mission of Epcot was to educate while entertaining

[@Emisop]

And EPCOT was originally supposed to be a city.

[@taylorvickerman1508]

I agree with the “Rob Plays” philosophy, I’m okay with change as long as the thing replacing it is better. certain things such as Grizzly Peak (my favorite land) can’t be topped in my opinion. There is too much nostalgia in it for me. It is the same for Pirates of the Caribbean and the rest of New Orleans Square. You just can’t replace them with something better. However, Bugs Land would be easier to top for me. It’s rides were never too impressive, so I’m glad to see something better (hopefully) replace it.

[@stanfordite]

Ugh. Rob Plays must have family on the board of directors. When I take over Disney he's getting banned from all Disney parks and I will make decisions that will thrill the purists and will have him declaring Disney to be stuck in the past and dead as a company. That means the end of Marvel and Star Wars in the parks.

[@stanfordite]

@WhiteFlagsFly YT Disney purists or "master guests" are the ONLY guests who matter. Not undesirables like you.

[@stanfordite]

@WhiteFlagsFly YT The only guests who matter are the ones who went when Walt was around and their direct descendants. Undesirables are the ones who are demanding Star Wars, Marvel, Pixar, and other IP inclusion in the parks with no regard for originality and even complained about the auction scene in Pirates along with demanding that Jack Sparrow be added as well. One of my top priorities after seizing the Disney company in a hostile takeover and being the Donald Trump it needs to make it great again is to raze Galaxy's Edge to the ground like it never existed along with all Marvel attractions. Galaxy's Edge has absolutely NO right to exist. No lands based on single IPs allowed in Walt's park, period. Not that it matters anyway because Star Wars, Marvel, Pixar, ABC, everything Iger bought is getting taken away from Disney because the company will be getting broken up by Capitol Hill under antitrust. Star Wars will be back in George Lucas' hands and he should never have been allowed to sell. Under my rule Disney will learn its place as NOTHING but an animation studio with some theme parks and the guiding mantra will once again be "what would Walt do?" like it was after he died.

[@stanfordite]

@WhiteFlagsFly YT First of all I have no problem expunging IPs I don't want in the park. Fantasyland is supposed to be the ghetto for IPs. I plan on carrying out the "Final Solution to the Star Wars and Marvel problems" and destroy all traces of them in the parks. I plan to erase all traces of both Crooked Bob Iger and Cheapie Chapek as if they were never at Disney. I even plan to write a book about their times at Disney and fill it with slanderous attacks against not just them, but their families as well so they'll be run out of the entertainment industry. By getting rid of all traces of Marvel, that means Tower of Terror can come back and I plan enforcing the California theming of California Adventure. I also have no problem with ousting the kids who complained "where's Jack Sparrow?" in Pirates which led to his inclusion and the snowflakes who complained about the original chase scene and the wench auction. By restoring those scenes along with being the boss of Disney who had the guts to finally release Song of the South, I don't mind if it causes those snowflakes to scream "Disney is a racist and sexist company that supports Donald Trump!" and organize a national movement to boycott all Disney products. They won't be missed. I plan to abolish synergy in the parks and replace it with corporate segregation, keeping the parks and the studios far apart from each other. If asking "what would Walt do?" keeps Disney trapped in the 1960s forever, so be it. Also, I'll inform you that Disney can survive on its name alone. When people see "Disney" they will come. "There's a sucker born every minute" - P.T. Barnum

[@kelciann31]

Thank you for introducing me to “contrarian”, when I was younger I was definitely someone who fell into the cycle of hate-then-love Disney attractions. I really appreciate you differentiating between having an opinion and blatantly opposing something regardless of its value and story. This video was great!

[@emilypeduto981]

it's not that all the IP based stuff is bad in itself, it's that we definitely lost something beautiful when Disney stopped making original storylines for their attractions. it's been almost fourteen years since a domestic park got a ride that wasn't IP based. so much imagination and creativity went into making living stories like the mansion and pirates and Everest, and it's truly special to go through them and interpret the narrative only from what unfolds around you in real time. I do like IP attractions. I just hate that they're the only thing we get anymore.

[@MrW0lfies]

Dude that is awesome that you are gonna be on freeform. I just finally finished the steps for the Disney College Program and I can’t wait to work in the parks

[@malloryb21]

no one: dallon to disney fans: “check yourself, before you wreck yourself”

[@kato223]

Great video as always!! There is one thing that I wish so much that Disneyland would adopt is Disney World's magicband system. So much easier than taking your phone out so many times for Fast Passes and getting into the parks with just scanning the band and your fingerprint. I just got back from Disney World and I thought Galaxy's Edge was really well put together and it was a lot of fun there. However, I wish they would not consider Fast Passes for Smuggler's Run as it will make the standby line grow and take so much longer. Every time we went and rode the ride it seemed to be no longer than a 30 minute wait and the line always kept moving.

[@kiyjiy]

I don't really understand people getting mad about changes, like I guess I can get it, it kinda sucks sometimes but everything/everyone changes over time nothing is gonna stay the same forever.

[@OffhandDisney]

Change is hard and sometimes it sucks, but with Disney, 99% of the time the change is amazing. It’s still scary, though.

[@howtubeable]

People are angry because the changes are BAD. If the changes were good, people would be happy. Want to make people happy? Lower admission prices. Make the parks simple to enjoy. (That is, don't make us pre-plan every minute 90 days in advance.) Restore the PeopleMover at Disneyland. Add more Jean Lafitte to Pirates of the Caribbean. See how easy it is to make HAPPY changes?

[@princedonovaughn1182]

@@howtubeable what at all was bad about them? And I don't think you can weigh it as if the changes were good or bad people would like them or not. There was complaints about the Malestrom closing to make way for Frozen and barely anybody rides it, the same could be said for The Great Movie Ride. They're adding on new sections to Epcot world showcase without replacing pre existing areas sounds good to me. They created a full two day Star Warz experience sounds inventive. We have yet to even experience the changes so how can it even be compared?

[@CoryTheRaven]

@@OffhandDisney About 50% of the time the change is amazing. Changes that actually improve an attraction, building on it or adding to the park without taking anything away tend not to be criticized. I've encountered very few people who dislike Constance or the Hatbox Ghost, for instance, or who are complaining about Tropical Hideaway. But when a change detracts from an attraction, removes something from the park, or otherwise diminishes the experience, that's when you get criticism. The repeated vandalism to Pirates of the Caribbean, the renovations for Club 33, and taking out the Tower of Terror rank right up there. Yes Guardians of the Galaxy has its own fanbase, but it's a demonstrably worse ride despite having better technology, and is running up against an attraction that had its own dedicated fanbase. Let's be honest: people who are cynical about changes to Disney parks have ample evidence to support their cynicism. Disney doesn't bat it out of the ballpark 99% of the time. Even technologically good things are like "why does this exist?!" (ahem, Avatar) On the other hand, people who just love everything Disney does can also find ample evidence to support their optimism. It's neither one nor the other. I suspect a lot of it comes down to whether you love Disney because you're loyal to the brand or because you like what they do. If you're loyal to the brand then anything would satisfy (I still can't get over how many people suddenly became instant Marvel and Star Wars fans just because Disney bought them), but if you like Disney for what they do then you might be more cynical about them muddying the waters of what you liked. Getting rid of the Tower of Terror didn't make me suddenly love Guardians of the Galaxy... It made me not want to bother going to California Adventure again, and plan a trip to Yosemite instead.

[@TherealRNOwwfpooh]

@@CoryTheRaven I love Hattie being back, but Connie's Black Widow murderess background detracts from Disney's "Happiest Place On Earth" public image & the Ghost Host's own insistence that "We've 999 HAPPY Haunts here, but there's room for 1,000. Any volunteers? Hmmm?" since Constance's status as a unfeeling bride who only married her wealthy suitors for their fortunes before beheading them makes her a heartless bitch, yet you can still hear the previously forlorn "Beating Heart" Bride's persistent heartbeat in the Attic's soundtrack, being drowned out by the ghostly pianist playing the Bridal March ("Here Comes the Bride") louder than how it was usually played & Connie's catty "Married, until Death Due Us Part" comments directing the Doombuggies her way, causing doombugs to point out how bad her digitized projection is (the same is true for the Hitchhiking Ghosts mirror trickery nowadays, since it is digitally superimposed in, rather than using the practical audio-animatronics of decades past) when compared to the classic "Pepper's Ghost" effects & traditional Disney magic otherwise used throughout the attraction.

[@puppetshack4931]

GREAT VIDEO! Great message so true....don’t be blind....be positive. Don’t judge too soon. Congrats on being on tv! Love your stuff! You are so smart. And love hearing your opinions on Disney. We are big fans & pass holders at WDW. Love seeing this stuff.

[@gluesandwhich730]

Agreed, the thing is walt himself said that disney land will experience changes, things leaving and new things coming back this happened for years, its good it really is, its sad that things are leaving but its good that good new things are coming back. BUT, the removal of the people mover, now that is a true tragedy

[@SirBlackReeds]

That was never about IPs coming to the parks though.

[@theswampylad5734]

The 7 stages of Disney grief. 1. Bargaining 2. Anger 3. Sadness 4. Anger 5. Anger 6. Anger 7. Acceptance

[@alli_mode]

.I think 5 should be sadness, just so it's back to anger right before 7

[@theswampylad5734]

@@alli_mode Thanks for the idea, that's much better

[@scrambledegg81]

I just want to see the golden fries removed from Tomorrowland. Fight me.

[@latenightlistmaker]

Congrats on the TV interview! Can’t wait to watch it. I agree that it’s easy to get wrapped up in the madness of hating or loving these changes in the parks, and research usually helps clear things up in forming a good opinion. Great content as usual (:

[@323starlight]

I personally love the parks changing. Sure I’m gonna miss some stuff, but if the park never changed, it would eventually get stale and samey. It’s kind of why I never returned to Legoland, Legoland never evolved and changed like Disney has.

[@pandajones2759]

You can disprove the chart you made just by remembering Horizons and Mission Space. Disney replaced something great with something horrible. And Epcot was not like MK, Epcot wasn’t supposed to even be a theme park, so putting any IP in it at all is kind of a slap in the face to Walt, who on his deathbed was planning room interiors for Epcot, not ride IPs

[@pandajones2759]

Oh but that said, I love your videos so much man and will always be a passholder at WDW. Keep doing your thing!

[@artemis316]

Well said...couldnt have explained the toxicity among Disney fans better! 👏👏👏

[@howtubeable]

Toxic? So the only two choices are "obey" or "shut up"? I'm toxic because I have legitimate complaints? I will not be silenced.

[@keithoneil9894]

Howard Wiggins I know, right? Criticizing something, even with genuine complaints, I guess automatically makes you “toxic” these days. That line of thinking is part of the problem.

[@stanfordite]

@@howtubeable Preach! I will never shut up if I have complaints. It's those who say "obey or shut up" who should be silenced.

[@AllytheRandomizer]

Thank you for saying what has needed to be said for fandoms in general. I believe that part of the reason that this fear and hatred to change, especially in regards to Disney, is that for a lot of people, myself included, have held onto Disney as one of their very few constants in this ever changing world. Upon realizing my ridiculous anger as I grew older, I decided to try to stop doing so, if only to protect my own mental health. Because of this, I have found myself more excited whenever I see something new being done within a community that I love instead of dreading the change as it comes. Granted, I have still had disappointments (though few and far between), but when I do, I try to think that what’s come has made a kid’s dream come true, just as the old part of the park did for me at that age.

[@liam_vaughan]

I agree with basically everything you say. I love Epcot, it’s probably my favorite park to be in. I really like the idea of Journey of Water and think it will be cool. The thing I don’t agree with but can see why they are doing it is making that area of Epcot timeless. I know we won’t ever get the original idea Walt had for Epcot but they at least kept the idea of the park being a place for experimental technology of tomorrow. With this new update they are making it timeless. It’s most likely because it just costs too much to keep updating everything so it stays futuristic. But that out-of-date future of the past has a bit of charm to it that I like. It’s similar to the last scene of Carousel of Progress where everything is sorta outdated and is in need for a change but it’s also cool to look at what the past thought our lives would be like to compare it to what we actually have. So it’s reasonable why they have to make Epcot timeless but it still seems like Epcot is gonna keep that futuristic feel where it’s a timeless futurism. Which is still nice. I’m excited to see what happens.

[@SirBlackReeds]

Epcot isn't going to be about futurism anymore though.

[@liam_vaughan]

jacoblgames yeah that’s what I am disappointed about but i’m also fine with it because it makes sense why they are doing it.

[@SirBlackReeds]

@@liam_vaughan They could made Epcot a retro-futurism park though.

[@liam_vaughan]

jacoblgames That would be really cool but they’re already going somewhat in that direction with Tomorrowland in MK already so idk if they would want to have 2 retro futuristic sections in 2 different parks

[@SirBlackReeds]

@@liam_vaughan They aren't though. In fact, Disney's plans for updating Tomorrowland are unknown, and that's if they have any. They may wind up giving the land the same treatment they're giving Epcot.

[@rickburton9940]

Great video. I'm an old timer EPCOT fan, but I expect change. The reason why I love going into Innovations was to see something new. I love Figment and wish he was a bigger part of EPCOT, and prefer less IP in the part...though it might make it better. I rather see the change first before complaining about it.

[@cowpuddles4851]

“Disney knows what it’s doing.” Um, have you seen a Star Wars movie in the last thirty years? Also, how about the entire Galaxy’s Edge disaster, when Disney ran out of all their swag, displeasing many guests? Just because it’s a new idea doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.

[@cooliocarz]

I really like that they are reimagining Epcot. It is well over needed. I appreciate the fact that they are trying to incorporate more family things to do. I was a cp and I asked guests what park they were going to a lot of them were going to skip Epcot with families.

[@TrojTV]

The only problem with Avengers Campus... The collectors fortress still stands out. Why on earth is there a villains lair on a campus 😱😂😂😂 Still, shoehorning in an IP just because it's an IP is the other side of the medal. Guardians isn't a bad overlay for tower, but it isn't an improvement persé. My personal problem with this specific example is that you can still see the original design that was basically just repainted. It looks like a temporary overlay of tower on the outside. Again, not a bad ride, but given the ideas put into the remodeling DCA, it seems like they truly just want to cash in on their IP. what's even "worse" is that the IP itself moved on. The rides narrative isn't timeless the way it was.

[@SirBlackReeds]

That's not the only problem. Avengers Campus won't serve the same niche that A Bug's Land did.

[@disneyfan85]

Thanks! This is how I feel about a lot of people on those Disney theme park forums (WDWMagic, MiceChat, etc.).

[@SalmonFiend69]

Galaxy’s edge is just a glorified shopping mall though, there’s nothing there to do other than buy merch, aside from smugglers run, which is cool, but the intentions were only to exploit starwars fans nonetheless

[@carlosbarreralg]

Edward Franco it’s not, download the Play Disney Parks app and use it, it takes the experience of the land to a whole new level. Just wait for Rise to open.

[@SalmonFiend69]

Carlos Barrera i agree that with rise of the resistance galaxy’s edge will improve, but they should’ve just waited to open it when it was complete rather than release an unfinished product. If they had waited, the land might’ve been received better

[@420yoruichi]

I totally agree!! It's a flop at D.L! Mickey's Run Away Railroad will draw more of a crowd than G.E! I'd bet on that!

[@carlosbarreralg]

Yoruichi 27 because Disney knows how to control crowds it’s a failure? They also blocked out most of their APs. Trust me Disney is not loosing any money on GE.

[@stanfordite]

I can't wait to watch Galaxy's Edge get bulldozed after Disney gets broken up by Congress and Lucas regains control of Star Wars.

[@TeslaDawg]

I’m old enough to remember when Epcot opened and a lot of people were complaining that didn’t feel like a Disney Park because it had no Disney characters. I’m glad they made the change over the years to add the characters/Disney IP. You can make a day out of walking around the world showplace and getting pictures with a ton of characters.

[@ChrimsonFoxdon]

Not gonna lie, if I was a Disneyland passholder and was blocked out from Galaxy's Edge, I'd be pretty mad. I understand WHY Disney would choose to do it, since people who tend to go to Disneyland are locals and can come back anytime really, and the block out was temporary, but as a consumer, it's definitely a turn off. As far as bringing IPs into the park, I don't really mind. Like you said in the video, it's been happening since the very beginning. I do think it's a bit sad when a ride that was original to the parks get's replaced with an IP attraction, but I feel like that's more so a reflection of how the majority of people's views of the parks are changing. They go to Disney parks expecting to see the Disney IP they're familiar with. I think what disappointed me about Tower of Terror in California getting replaced with Mission Breakout was how the tone of the ride had seemingly changed; it's no longer a horror/thriller ride, but instead an action/adventure ride (this is just based on what I've seen of the ride online to be honest, since I haven't been to Disneyland in a long while. I could be wrong about that assumption). I hope these thoughts make sense!! I feel like I kinda just rambled a bit.

[@SirBlackReeds]

Not to mention Bob Chapek cut out a lot of great stuff from Galaxy's Edge.

[@ThePkg0123]

Hey guys let’s be honest with ourselves... Epcot future world kinda sucks rn and we should be glad that they’re evolving it at all

[@eurossocial]

Star Wars themed movies, should be on a separate park, devoted Only for Star Wars and Marvel featured movies. Don't touch Disney parks with these nonsenses. Original Disney fans don't like these movies. There are plenty of Disney animated movies that can create countless of amazing attractions! But why the don't choose from these, and they choose from the films to create attractions? Such as Avatar and Marvel, for example... By the way, most people prefer the "Tangled" rather than "Frozen". So why they don't build an attraction on that movie? And one more thing, is that I Only say a Big YES and I support the changes at the Epcot park.

[@j_emceee]

They have a Tangled attraction... It's really sh!tty though 😂😂😂 (sorry couldn't help it)

[@TheCOZ]

On the flip side, why don't all the people who like whatever's popular have to think for "themselves"? I believe the"contrarians" are more the thinkers.

[@Courier_333]

I think the term is skeptic lol

[@Courier_333]

Like it's ok to like something that's popular but not just because its popular lmfao

[@Courier_333]

but why do people just assume that if someone holds opinions contrary to the rest of society you're suddenly wrong lmfao

[@terongray1019]

I felt like you were on a decent path until you reached the Star Wars section. The negativity around Star Wars as a Disney IP stems heavily from disservice and disrespect that they shown towards the original trilogy. It isn't that there is change, it's that they find the change honestly insulting; with ruining of the original characters to drag them down so the new characters can seem better. Han becomes a deadbeat father who doesn't know where he parked the Falcon. Luke becomes a bitter old hermit that's given up on everything. Leia has fared better and yet she feels hollow, which is likely attributable to Carrie's passing and the resultant CGI protrail. The writing quality just isn't as good, the story feels incomprehensible, the new cast feels unable to carry the mantle. And then going into Galaxy's Edge with that, it is nothing but the news chapter. Which isn't what the fandom wants; so yes they will be critical of it. It's not the Star Wars that they want to come to the park for. And to simply slap a label of toxic across all of the complaints is in of itself a very poor faith, and rather uninformed disregarding of people's concerns regarding everything. I truthfully find it very disappointing that you would go with such low hanging fruit. Also I respectfully disagree and believe that Star Tours does belong in Tomorrowland. But Space Mountain should definitely be restored to its former glory of being its own unique experience, and original trilogy stuff should be in Galaxy's Edge.

[@2011scuba]

hear hear

[@jalapeno1119]

Star Tours doesn't make any sense in Tomorrowland!

[@ryanstreasures2491]

Congratulations on getting to be on FreeForm! I’ll make sure to look for you there next month!

[@1updominoes892]

I totally agree with everything you said, but I will never stop missing the great movie ride

[@johnkonstantin8914]

How many people were upset when they got rid of superstar limo ride in Disney's California adventure